Watching you guys go through the huge learning curve and making a great job of what you are building is amazing. Keep it up, guys! You are an inspiration to the rest of us.
Thank you so much for the content. The two of you are stellar! What you were attempting to do accomplish clearly probably hasn’t been done. Bravo for attempting something new and different. I hope it serves you well into the future! Bravo!!
Nice work. I've worked with carbon fiber and had to make my mold too. It's not as easy as one might think. You're doing a great job and I can hardly wait to see the finished Bimini. Love n hugs to you both. Be safe and i'll see you next week. Regards, Myk ❤🤗
@@stevenperez8157 And they would HAVE TO (1) put some fuzzy dice hanging from the center of the dodger, and (2) add some racing stripes and flames down the side of the boat to “make it go faster”! 🤪🤣🤠☮️
I know you have all the pieces on CAD. Maybe you could include a few screen shots while working on parts, so we know what piece is what, for reference.
Hey, guys. Love your videos! I need to apologize, as I have had a suggestion for months (since you started vacuum sealing your layups) to solve your problems with losing vacuum on your layups. Obviously you can't leave the air compressor on all the time, but you could purchase an inexpensive programmable outlet from Amazon that you can set up to power on for a minute or two every 15-20 minutes (or whatever time period makes sense) to re-establish vacuum pressure while you are away and waiting for the layup to set. There are a great many different devices of similar size and shape and they are generally pretty inexpensive, so I'm not going to suggest a specific one (especially since you have different outlet arrangement there than we have here in the USA, so you might need adapters). Some are Bluetooth, but most seem to require WiFi to program them, so if you go this route, be careful one you get, or you might need to program it while on your boat, and then take it to the shop to plug in... I meant to post this months ago when you first started your layups, but kept forgetting. Oops!
🌴🌴🌴 You kids are so awesome 👏👏👏 I know that this is taking a long time to make but you will Definitely appreciate it when you’re at sea. I always love watching your videos. Blessings from Paso Robles, California, Carlos
I just want to alert you to the forces that the main sheet can exert on the traveller, whether track and car or multiple sheaves, for a 60 foot mainsail luff with a 20 foot boom in 40 knots of wind you can see up to 3 tons (imperial) of shock load. It's unlikely you'd have a full main up in that much breeze but storms and squalls do happen when you least expect them. Moving the main sheeting points off the deck means the moment applied to the deck bonding points have to be seriously beefy and strong, the 3 tons multiplied by the distance from the deck. Seriously, please consult a naval architect on this part of your build.
I agree. They are a clearly very smart and resourceful couple, but this design has me seriously concerned if not triple checked by an engineer/architect in the business.
I have been watching all the episodes you need to stagger the "light lines" or weave orientation from 45 degrees and 90 degrees for structural stability and other things I have noticed you should do different so you don't have dry plies. I have 25 years experience with composite work in the aerospace industry. How can I help answer questions you might have?
Hi guys! Nice to see you back in the shop! I'm going to go on record and say that I'm very nervous about moving the main sheet from the deck to your arch. I'm not an engineer and I've never sailed anything larger than a Hobie 16, but I have a lot of respect for the forces on the main sheet. And that's just in normal sailing. Imagine what those forces are in a knockdown or in an inadvertent jibe. You mentioned a boom brake. Good idea, but are you comfortable with your entire dodger/bimini project depending on it? If the forces on the sheet exceed the strength of your current setup, you've got a hole in the deck, which you can fix. But if the forces exceed the strength of your arch, its possible that you might lose the whole dodger/bimini. There are other ways the setup could fail, too. Blocks can pull out. The arch can crack. Anchors to the deck can pull out. Or what if the backstay fails? Then you've got the whole load of the foresail plus mainsail on your arch. Lots of possible points of failure. Failure in any one of them would likely result in loss of control of your boom. That's manageable in light air. But if something breaks it won't be in light air. It will be in a blow or sudden squall, maybe at night. Whatever lines or hardware are still attached to the boom are going to be flying back and forth across the deck at terrifying speed and I worry about the two of you getting it under control without getting hurt. I've looked at boats with main sheets on arches and to my eyes they always look like accidents waiting to happen. I understand why designers want to keep the cockpit clear but I just don't see how you achieve the necessary strength and rigidity way up in the air like that, with shear forces pulling in every direction. I'm sure the engineers have run the numbers but my eyes will never believe them. As I said, I'm not an engineer. And maybe I've been drinking too much of Dick Beaumont's Kool Aid. But I do have some experience with things breaking. And it would be a real setback for you guys if this thing doesn't work. 🙂
As I wrote this I was thinking of a mainsheet accident in 2022 in which two people were killed. Accounts of the accident differ, but the gist of it is that the sheet, which was still attached to the boom, became a whip that struck multiple people. Help was slow in arriving and the result was two fatalities: ruclips.net/video/7ceqKa_4cJU/видео.html
As I wrote this I was thinking of a mainsheet accident in 2022 in which two people were killed. Accounts of the accident differ, but the gist of it is that the sheet, which was still attached to the boom, became a whip that struck multiple people. Help was slow in arriving and the result was two fatalities. Look up "SV Escape mainsheet accident."
RE: "sideways" I don't have concerns about the static loads on this arch. I am very concerned about the dynamic loads. This thing has much more mass than the canvas and SS arch. As you sail through seaways it will be constantly trying to sway back and forth. The dingy, hanging from the davits will make it worse. The only thing resisting this swaying are the corners at the top and the leg fastenings at the bottom. Eventually they will give way unless there are more braces in the corners. It will work fine a couple of years but then fail. The traveler will make this worse. Pessimist engineer here.
@14:23 The brushes can be thoroughly cleaned with vinegar. While still wet, clean again with soapy water, rinse thoroughly with water and let dry completely. This is also a perfect method for epoxy on skin or in hair because vinegar neutralizes the epoxy.👴🤓 I have developed a severe epoxy allergy, believe me, this is the only thing that works.👴🤷♂ ("washing" with acetone doesn't work because it only works as a thinner. When it's evaporated, the epoxy just cures)
I’d love to see those load calculations and the layup is engineered to handle those loads. I get that it’s probably a SWAG, but a cute animation would help make the point.
This must be so much work behind the scenes, especially with the filming. Now we know why they are so expensive. Would love to see you add up what this has cost, then add in your time and labor when you are done. Great work! If you ever decide to stop sailing, you can open EECFBT Inc, Expedition Evans Carbon Fiber Bimini Tops Inc.
I am curious about how long you leave the vaccum pump running? Most of the time I see vacuum bagging, the vac pump is left on at least until the resin is fully set and often until the next day. Those pumps are not damaged by pulling a deep vacuum as long as there are not large air leaks. The like to pull against a resistance but are not made to move lots of air.
Time is a funny thing, it seems like you two have been at this project forever. However, compare this to making a movie, which often takes 3-4 years with hundreds of employees. Considering there's just the two of you (4 leggers aside) it's coming along nicely.
Curious what you've spent on carbon fibre cloth. I am currently mid way through a similar Bimini built for our 47' Jeanneau. I've gone with a SS frame with 2 500 watt rigid solar panels set down into it. The non solar areas are fibreglass / epoxy over honeycomb core board . I have added a lip around the perimeter for water collection like you as well. I very much like your design but it wasn't an option on a center cockpit like ours. Looking forward to seeing your finished product. Looking very good. Fredb SV Tico
It would be interesting if you kept track of your hours, or estimated them, assigned a value to your labor, and in the end multiplied all that out to determine the price of this creation. Possibly the most expensive bimini ever made!
For your gloves you could buy cheap cotton glove liners in bulk, and wear them under you more expensive rubber gloves. They will absorb sweat as you work, and allow you to change rubber gloves as needed, without the need to change the cotton glove liners underneath. I do this all the time as an aircraft mechanic. My Employer buys the cotton liners in bulk from someone in Pakistan.
Isn't it safer to let somebody make the pulleybase out of aluminum or steel? It is a relative small part so it wont add too much weight, but it is much stronger right? Especially with the whole "need to handle forces from alle sides" story
It's amazing how a Beautiful woman can be still so beautiful even with no makeup and dirty dinghy clothing!!! Jade you are for sure one of those women! And more woman should understand it's not all body mods and expensive makeup just inner beauty with natural beauty!!! Is always the best!❤❤
you guys still work on that thing? you started what? 6 months ago and it's still not on? I enjoyed your channel back in the day, but this is like watching paint dry.
Watching you guys go through the huge learning curve and making a great job of what you are building is amazing. Keep it up, guys! You are an inspiration to the rest of us.
Coming along nicely, if you could post more often I for one would be extremely grateful. 👍😎👍
The top is coming along very nicely. Can’t wait to see it all put together on the boat.
Thank you so much for the content. The two of you are stellar! What you were attempting to do accomplish clearly probably hasn’t been done. Bravo for attempting something new and different. I hope it serves you well into the future! Bravo!!
Hurry up I just can’t wait to see the end product 👍👍
Nice work. I've worked with carbon fiber and had to make my mold too. It's not as easy as one might think. You're doing a great job and I can hardly wait to see the finished Bimini. Love n hugs to you both. Be safe and i'll see you next week. Regards, Myk ❤🤗
Project coming together very well, the boom brake is a great addition
inspirational. said it before will say it again. you two are an amazing team. stay safe
I love my boom brake. Well worth the investment for safety and peace of mind.
Work all the corners in your bag and make sure no bridging in you layup and bag. You don't want voids or delamination
You guys are simply amazing! It looks so good, I can't wait to see the finished product, especially painted with your amazing custom color. 😊
Can you please add a spoiler on the back like people have on their cars? Then when people ask try to convince them it helps with aerodynamics.
😂😂😂😂
OMG spoiler ALERT! :D
@@kobboy007GOOD ONE‼️👍🏼👌🏼
😂🤣☮️
Great idea! But then they would have to paint flames on the bow.
@@stevenperez8157 And they would HAVE TO (1) put some fuzzy dice hanging from the center of the dodger, and (2) add some racing stripes and flames down the side of the boat to “make it go faster”! 🤪🤣🤠☮️
Congrats it's coming together really well!
It's looking good guys.
Jade - you are an absolute bom! Love your beautiful, creative and interesting mind!!!!
Ah man. I was hoping you were going to say that you just got done climbing with Chris Sharma. Ha! You guys are rock stars. Another great video.
The man the myth the legend??? I wish!
I know you have all the pieces on CAD. Maybe you could include a few screen shots while working on parts, so we know what piece is what, for reference.
I think you're absolutely crazy to do all this, but i also love watching you do it ;) Hope it ends up nicely!
I’m enjoying your build very much, looking forward to the next installment. Thank you.
I think yall like the projects more than sailing. ⛵️
Like the way this addition is turning out.
Hey, guys. Love your videos!
I need to apologize, as I have had a suggestion for months (since you started vacuum sealing your layups) to solve your problems with losing vacuum on your layups. Obviously you can't leave the air compressor on all the time, but you could purchase an inexpensive programmable outlet from Amazon that you can set up to power on for a minute or two every 15-20 minutes (or whatever time period makes sense) to re-establish vacuum pressure while you are away and waiting for the layup to set.
There are a great many different devices of similar size and shape and they are generally pretty inexpensive, so I'm not going to suggest a specific one (especially since you have different outlet arrangement there than we have here in the USA, so you might need adapters). Some are Bluetooth, but most seem to require WiFi to program them, so if you go this route, be careful one you get, or you might need to program it while on your boat, and then take it to the shop to plug in...
I meant to post this months ago when you first started your layups, but kept forgetting. Oops!
Wow I am well impressed!
This project looks crazy, Very interested to see the final product.
Looking good ... your hard top has come a long way in the past 6 months.
Toby from Storror? Thats awesome!!!!!!!
🌴🌴🌴 You kids are so awesome 👏👏👏 I know that this is taking a long time to make but you will Definitely appreciate it when you’re at sea. I always love watching your videos. Blessings from Paso Robles, California, Carlos
Great work Brett!
Great content!!!! Looking super❤
I just want to alert you to the forces that the main sheet can exert on the traveller, whether track and car or multiple sheaves, for a 60 foot mainsail luff with a 20 foot boom in 40 knots of wind you can see up to 3 tons (imperial) of shock load. It's unlikely you'd have a full main up in that much breeze but storms and squalls do happen when you least expect them. Moving the main sheeting points off the deck means the moment applied to the deck bonding points have to be seriously beefy and strong, the 3 tons multiplied by the distance from the deck. Seriously, please consult a naval architect on this part of your build.
I agree. They are a clearly very smart and resourceful couple, but this design has me seriously concerned if not triple checked by an engineer/architect in the business.
You can use Plexi or Melamine as a base for bagging
I have been watching all the episodes you need to stagger the "light lines" or weave orientation from 45 degrees and 90 degrees for structural stability and other things I have noticed you should do different so you don't have dry plies. I have 25 years experience with composite work in the aerospace industry. How can I help answer questions you might have?
you can see the progress on google maps, good work
Hi guys! Nice to see you back in the shop!
I'm going to go on record and say that I'm very nervous about moving the main sheet from the deck to your arch. I'm not an engineer and I've never sailed anything larger than a Hobie 16, but I have a lot of respect for the forces on the main sheet. And that's just in normal sailing. Imagine what those forces are in a knockdown or in an inadvertent jibe. You mentioned a boom brake. Good idea, but are you comfortable with your entire dodger/bimini project depending on it?
If the forces on the sheet exceed the strength of your current setup, you've got a hole in the deck, which you can fix. But if the forces exceed the strength of your arch, its possible that you might lose the whole dodger/bimini. There are other ways the setup could fail, too. Blocks can pull out. The arch can crack. Anchors to the deck can pull out. Or what if the backstay fails? Then you've got the whole load of the foresail plus mainsail on your arch. Lots of possible points of failure. Failure in any one of them would likely result in loss of control of your boom. That's manageable in light air. But if something breaks it won't be in light air. It will be in a blow or sudden squall, maybe at night. Whatever lines or hardware are still attached to the boom are going to be flying back and forth across the deck at terrifying speed and I worry about the two of you getting it under control without getting hurt.
I've looked at boats with main sheets on arches and to my eyes they always look like accidents waiting to happen. I understand why designers want to keep the cockpit clear but I just don't see how you achieve the necessary strength and rigidity way up in the air like that, with shear forces pulling in every direction. I'm sure the engineers have run the numbers but my eyes will never believe them. As I said, I'm not an engineer. And maybe I've been drinking too much of Dick Beaumont's Kool Aid. But I do have some experience with things breaking. And it would be a real setback for you guys if this thing doesn't work. 🙂
With the mainsheet attached to the middle of the boom the forces on it will be GREATER, not less than if it’s attached at the end.
Also, need to consider the engineering of the boom itself, if moving the location of the traveler location
As I wrote this I was thinking of a mainsheet accident in 2022 in which two people were killed. Accounts of the accident differ, but the gist of it is that the sheet, which was still attached to the boom, became a whip that struck multiple people. Help was slow in arriving and the result was two fatalities: ruclips.net/video/7ceqKa_4cJU/видео.html
As I wrote this I was thinking of a mainsheet accident in 2022 in which two people were killed. Accounts of the accident differ, but the gist of it is that the sheet, which was still attached to the boom, became a whip that struck multiple people. Help was slow in arriving and the result was two fatalities. Look up "SV Escape mainsheet accident."
RE: "sideways" I don't have concerns about the static loads on this arch. I am very concerned about the dynamic loads. This thing has much more mass than the canvas and SS arch. As you sail through seaways it will be constantly trying to sway back and forth. The dingy, hanging from the davits will make it worse. The only thing resisting this swaying are the corners at the top and the leg fastenings at the bottom. Eventually they will give way unless there are more braces in the corners. It will work fine a couple of years but then fail. The traveler will make this worse. Pessimist engineer here.
@14:23 The brushes can be thoroughly cleaned with vinegar. While still wet, clean again with soapy water, rinse thoroughly with water and let dry completely.
This is also a perfect method for epoxy on skin or in hair because vinegar neutralizes the epoxy.👴🤓
I have developed a severe epoxy allergy, believe me, this is the only thing that works.👴🤷♂
("washing" with acetone doesn't work because it only works as a thinner. When it's evaporated, the epoxy just cures)
I’d love to see those load calculations and the layup is engineered to handle those loads. I get that it’s probably a SWAG, but a cute animation would help make the point.
So as this project on hold?
This must be so much work behind the scenes, especially with the filming. Now we know why they are so expensive. Would love to see you add up what this has cost, then add in your time and labor when you are done. Great work! If you ever decide to stop sailing, you can open EECFBT Inc, Expedition Evans Carbon Fiber Bimini Tops Inc.
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👍👍👍
your pulley bases seem kinda small to transfer the forces to the arch?
I am curious about how long you leave the vaccum pump running? Most of the time I see vacuum bagging, the vac pump is left on at least until the resin is fully set and often until the next day. Those pumps are not damaged by pulling a deep vacuum as long as there are not large air leaks. The like to pull against a resistance but are not made to move lots of air.
A lot of work, but it’ll be worth it in the long run.
Now I know why you haven’t been posting often on either of your channels. There is oh-so-much work to be done!
SO we are coming up on a YEAR for this build out...... WHAT ARE WE DOING?????
Windage, windage, windage...
Both in survival situations offshore, but more commonly maneuvering under power, near a dock, with a cross breeze.
Time is a funny thing, it seems like you two have been at this project forever. However, compare this to making a movie, which often takes 3-4 years with hundreds of employees. Considering there's just the two of you (4 leggers aside) it's coming along nicely.
Curious what you've spent on carbon fibre cloth. I am currently mid way through a similar Bimini built for our 47' Jeanneau. I've gone with a SS frame with 2 500 watt rigid solar panels set down into it. The non solar areas are fibreglass / epoxy over honeycomb core board . I have added a lip around the perimeter for water collection like you as well. I very much like your design but it wasn't an option on a center cockpit like ours. Looking forward to seeing your finished product. Looking very good. Fredb SV Tico
Keep baby powder on hand. It's a huge help getting gloves on especially when sweaty.
try wrapping your paint brushes in plastic wrap and place in the refrigerator. - works great for paint but not sure with your material
Have a backup plan for when it fails
It would be interesting if you kept track of your hours, or estimated them, assigned a value to your labor, and in the end multiplied all that out to determine the price of this creation. Possibly the most expensive bimini ever made!
For your gloves you could buy cheap cotton glove liners in bulk, and wear them under you more expensive rubber gloves. They will absorb sweat as you work, and allow you to change rubber gloves as needed, without the need to change the cotton glove liners underneath. I do this all the time as an aircraft mechanic. My Employer buys the cotton liners in bulk from someone in Pakistan.
Comment of the week : “That is super stiff Brett”
Are you guys going to make it flat or leave the end farthest to the back up by a couple of inches
Where will go when the project is done?
Isn't it safer to let somebody make the pulleybase out of aluminum or steel? It is a relative small part so it wont add too much weight, but it is much stronger right? Especially with the whole "need to handle forces from alle sides" story
Where have you gone? We are in limbo……
Is this considered German sheeting?
The traveler bowed up because the boat is not a true blue water boat .
It's amazing how a Beautiful woman can be still so beautiful even with no makeup and dirty dinghy clothing!!! Jade you are for sure one of those women! And more woman should understand it's not all body mods and expensive makeup just inner beauty with natural beauty!!! Is always the best!❤❤
Anybody alive out there?? Love this segment but getting real tired of waiting for some update.
3:59 pregnanti?
you guys still work on that thing? you started what? 6 months ago and it's still not on? I enjoyed your channel back in the day, but this is like watching paint dry.
Love the channel, you guys are amazing…but…that man bun is just so….girly 😆😆😆. Not a good look….maybe a haircut to look more manly 😂😂😂
Just so you know, power boaters are real boaters. If sailing is so cool, why do you have a motor?
Douches.