FJ-2/3 FURY: The Sabre That Couldn't Shoot Straight
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- The great success of the F-86 Sabre in the Korean War led the US Navy to contract North American Aviation to navalise the type. This would have led to an exceptional carrier aircraft if it wasn't for the US Navy's project office. Their ideas about how to aim the Sabre's cannons led to one of the least useful aircraft ever deployed on a US carrier deck.
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"FJ Fury In Detail And Scale" is an excellent book and one of the few on the type
"FJ Fury In Action" by Jim Mesko is a good read but somewhat showing its age in terms of presentation... if you can even find a copy these days
...I'd say the same about "Naval Fighters Number Ten: North American FJ-2 Fury" by Steve Ginter
Now that you mention the angled guns, I can't unsee it. The gun ports are angled. They always were angled. And I never noticed.
The calm voice briefing me on obsolete aircraft is very therapeutic.
I prefer the obsolete radars and missiles, but the planes are good too.
Did you say Nike Hercules? My soft spot is Cold War and modern interceptors
Well I’m British, so I said “Bloodhound”, but the Nike series are also fascinating.
@richardnicklin654 British weapon naming has a cool shibilith, I guess it could be called.
I'd like to submit "Brimstone" as a follow-up to yours.
And so my Friday evening begins
great video this channel is an utter gold mine, would love to see some videos on british air to air missiles like the firestreak, fireflash, red top and sraam
SAMEE
This stuff gets me through the week….. I may be in a bad place.
Well, hard work and self dicipline will get you out of it, Therapy and such mumbo jumbo will not.
Take care mate, spend some time doing stuff you enjoy, and don’t let negativity rule your life (hard as that may feel)
You may be in a bad place. But you definitely are not alone. Many, many of us are struggling along with you. Different reasons, maybe, but still some really bad soul crushing struggles. I'll hang in there, you hang in there
Remember always that you are a man and expected to act accordingly.🫵🏻😉
Me too, bro. Slogging through the meantime between surgeries, hearing things such as "this too shall pass" can sound pretty hollow. But it's true.
Hope your "week" gets better.
This has become my favorite history channel 🤝
Finally a documentary on the fury...that is accurate
As a kid during the 1960s, one if my very first glue together models was the Fury.
F8U Crusader: next please. And "Oh, the FJ-4, of course." said Marion Carl.
I remember one morning around '08 working on the flight line at NAS Lemoore when an unusual sight parked on the t-line a few rows over from our squadron. It was a gorgeous FJ-3, glossy gull gray with a red lightning bolt. I wasn't in a hurry so I walked over and got to meet the pilot. One feature of the aircraft I found absolutely fascinating was the self-contained hydraulic servicing system, it contained a small reservoir of fresh hydraulic fluid so the pilot could bleed and service his own system unassisted from a hatch on the side of the fuselage. On the F/A-18 servicing hydraulics after flights was done by a maintainer with a bleed bottle and a portable pump we'd hook up to the dual redundant systems.
Much awaited, much appreciated looking forward to excellent insights as always from you.
OH WOW, My Dad was in the Marines assigned as jet mechanic to VMF-333 squadron, and he probably worked on the FJ-3 shown at 11:46. That image gets thrown around a lot when the FJ-3 comes up. I still have his squadron patches. 😀
Thank you for all your work and research that goes into these videos.
Some of my favorite videos on RUclips.
Thank you! I have long awaited an in-depth review of the Fury. They are part of my early childhood recollections.
This is an iconic aircraft shape, and easy to draw as a kid. 😝
I was looking for this video earlier today and was sad it didn't exist, I'm happy again now.
My lunchtime Friday viewing has arrived 🙂👍
Ah, BeauOrd, the people who gave us the mk 14 torpedo, and refused to believe it didn't work.
Great video, as always!
3G turn at 500 knots with a 50% fuel level. Works "most" of the time if the pilot happens to be in that engagement profile. I wonder who signed off on this intriguiging design feature.
This is a great video and very historical
So useless they had to give it to the Marines. Lol.
Sounds about right.
LAWL !
F4u Corsair : Hold my beer
Surprised they didn't bolt another engine on and pack it with firepower like they did with the cobra 😆
A tale as old as time
Niiiiiice. Love your videos, man!
Does the source material exist to do a proper presentation of WWI Fighters? That is just such an interesting era of aviation history.
There are some other channels that have done that topic.
Oh well, it was better then nothing. Thanks for the weapon history!
"Whaddya mean the guys flying it say it doesn’tshoot right? How dare they question the Military Industrial Complex! My diploma shows I'm smarter than them and my slide rule calculations prove... PROVE that I'm right!" 🧐
Was this the same bureau that managed the Mk. 14 torpedo development during WWII?
Thankfully no, that was the Bureau of Ordnance. This was the Bureau of Aviation.
Let's see, your thumbnail photo is the box art from the ESCI (Italy) 1/48 scale North American Fury plastic kit.
The FJ-2/3 Fury's was rendered obsolete by F-3H Demon(a faster fighter equipped with afterburner and AIM-7C Sparrows) within a year. Then, 4 years after FJ-2/4 entered service, F-4 Phantom made it's maiden flight. So the FJ-2/3 Fury was basically dead on arrival due to the rapid technological developments.
It's amazing how fast technology was improving, that you could design a modern airplane but before it was produced better technology and a better aircraft was already in prototype face or ready to come out in some cases. Of course that also came at the cost of lots of very brave test pilots, the 1950s were crazy in everything to do with military. (Okay soldier, we just detonated a nuke, now walk until you're underneath the mushroom cloud)
@@toddabowden Walking underneath the mushroom cloud wasn't that crazy for those days. In Operation Plumbbob’s John-test there were actually 6 soldiers underneath the actual nuclear detonation to show that detonations in the upper atmosphere would be safe to the general population. That was in the days when Russians bomber streams were supposed to be stopped by nuclear-tipped missiles.
The '50s were a second Golden Age of Aviation, with its breath-taking pace of progress--the 1920s and '30s often called 'The Golden Age' because of the rapid pace at that time.
The F3h was never supersonic and could barely stay in the air let alone go Supersonic
@@prowlus Another promising design hamstrung by its engine. I thought the Demon was a really good-looking airplane.
"Is it useless?" "Is it obsolete?" Given to the Marines. One would think that giving the best equipment top our front-line troops would be in our own best interest. sigh
Do the most with the least. I know I heard that somewhere one time.😂
I suppose it makes sense. The Marines aviators were only supposed to support the troops on the ground, while the Navy was supposed to take care of the most advanced fighters (and bombers) any enemy had to offer, so it makes some sense that the Navy got the best planes and the Marines got the hand-me-downs.
Yeah some say that the marines gettting an entire version of the f35 for themselfs kinda broke them
Thanks
The U.S. Navy's only option for the Fury was to give it to the Marines! Ouch but true. My mother's second husband was in the Marines in transport in the early to mid 1980s. He said they'd receive shipments of vehicles from the U.S. Army as the Marines had a low budget back then. He said they just painted over the U.S.ARMY with the letters USMC. He'd laugh it off.
Who else clicks the thumbs up button before they watch the whole video?
Flight Surgeon isn't happy about something.
What's with the middle finger in the sequence from 1:00 to 1:30 roughly?
Guess he’s not a fan of the fury
Its the "Hawaiian good luck sign" lol.
I'm pretty sure flipping people off and calling it the "Hawaiian good luck sign" was an in service tradition and joke before the hostages from the USS pueblo in 1968 did it to the N. Koreans.
@smugly6793
Those are USAF sabres...
Why are those guys flipping off the planes?
*_"Oops."_*
Great video. No RAAF avon powered and 30mm armed F86 video but ok none the less.
"Nonetheless". One word.
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv I bet you're fun at parties
Gaijin when?
:)
41 midway 43 coral Sea but excellent video otherwise.
Ooops.. 😂😂
2nd
It was so useless that the Navy gave it to the Marines 😬
Naval aircraft thrive on versatility and reliability.
The Fury was both useless and unreliable.