Nissan Ariya 63 kWh 1000 km challenge
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Those ABB chargers probably had broken handle thermostat or cable cooling, so it only charges at whatever amps 31 KW is. It’s a common issue with the Always Be Broken chargers 😂
ABB is literally always broken.
Never had a single ABB charger in Germany which worked fully. :D
Shell only uses that crap, but I guess they don't want customers, EU pays nonetheless. I just avoid every charger from Efacec, ABB and EvBox. Luckily those are literally not in use except form Shell and Total but you don't need those shit networks.
Should be easy to identify in the IONITY app, when they know it's running around 35kW they put it on free vend publicly
Now I wonder. With 39kWh Kona I've had some charging sessions with ~41kW and some with ~32kW. The latter ones weren't running the heatpump for cooling the battery (one can hear the difference), they were only running the fan (it was in colder times). I've thought that the 9kW was actually pulled by the heatpump and it always puts that 32kW into the battery, but now I'm not sure. Maybe it was this kind of broken ABB charger and the car decided it doesn't _need_ the cooling because of the lower power.
"ABB always be broken"
Savage Bjorn 😂
Hi bjorn, I am a Japanese, and big fan of you.
Just Like you, I already did 1000km challenge with Ariya 63kWh in Japan.
As a result, I could only demonstrate 46kW with all the fast chargers and the result was scattered.
Nissan has since officially announced that if you fast charge from more than SOC 95%, the charging output will show the behavior of limiting to 46kW.
As a solution to this problem, Nissan has also proposed that the problem can be reset by turning off the power for more than 5 minutes.
If the same behavior exists in the European version, it would explain why all fast chargers were limited to exactly 90 kW this time.
Also, I found in thelast charging session, the behavior of the charging output slowly decreasing from 93 kW after the short sleeping break would also make sense if the power had been turned off for more than 5 minutes.
In the introductory part of your 1000 km challenge, did you use fast charging from about SOC 95% to full charge?
If you could do 1000km challenge again,
・do you not fast charge from about SOC 95%?
・If you are fast charging more than 5 minutes after turning off the power, does it unlock the 90kW limiting behavior?
It might be a good idea to check these two points. Thanks.
Hello EV, can you find out if there is also some "logic" in programming of the charging scheme of the LEAF e+? I have acess to a 50kW charger where I can restart Chademo charging within 1-5 seconds (depending on me and as often as I want) several times and the LEAF e+ does NOT reduce charging speed. Can you ask Nissan? Thanks.
Nice music at 2:30-3:00 and later, I like this new techno theme
Its interesting to see charger struggles along the way. That is always on my mind for ev charging. Im surprised its even like this in Norway
That's one of the main advantages of driving a Tesla - almost never charger issues.
Most of the route is in sweden. So not Norwegian chargers, but swedish chargers.
The route is from Oslo, to Helsingborg and then back to Oslo.
I drove about 4000 Kms around western Europe on a road trip in August. . I used ionity and never had a single issue charging on that network. I bricked two fast chargers from a different network.
it's ariya charging sofware issues
As others have said, it's the main reason I bought a Tesla.
Great Video...Please test the sibling Renault Megane e-tech electric as well ;-)
Seems like an OK car, but I think Nissan really needed something special to redeem themselves after holding on to a 2011 EV for over a decade. Realistically, this is a car that should have come out in 2018.
I like the flat charging curve, that’s more useful than a big peak number for like 10% and then it drops like a rock. Just wish it would hold that 115kw to like 60%. It wouldn’t be an issue if the car was more efficient, but 200km from full before needing to charge is pretty bad for a battery that size.
I also appreciate that they decided to make the car comfortable rather than falling into the “sporty” trap that so many new cars do. Literally nobody actually wants a “sporty” SUV, and they definitely don’t want a crashy ride like Mach-E or Model Y.
They are back. And no spare money with all costs - just like it was 20 years ago!
I was going to go for the Skoda Enyaq and 87kwh but I think I'm going with the Ariya now. For some reason that interior is just so comfortable, perfect seats lots of room.
toast tip, put the butter on the outside to get crispier crust... :)
More mess. Remember that I have to hold the toast. And that I'm eating in the car. When I'm home I put butter on the outside.
its a thing i have noticed with my Q4 e50 is that below 10 C degrees it drops charging speed. it drops even more when reaching pluss 5 degrees C. i think its some (non)logic in the software that does this pluss decrease the amount of range. I think its audi`s cover your own ass insuranse not to ruin the battery after a few years...
That's £46K in the UK..... Ouch!
Are you reviewing the MG4 soon? Love to hear your thoughts
Please do a MG4 LR £28k in UK?
Dude after watching this video im so happy i have a model 3 and when i need i just charge at the superchargers...
holy sheeet problem after problem 🤦♂ If its not the charger then its the car, if its not the car then its the charger.
well until elon allows anyone to use them then you'll be queuing with them all
Considering Nissan was so early to the EV game I have to say Sshhiiieeeettt!!
if they made a nice and slick sedan with this powertrain, would be an awesome ev
no way, the battery will take too much space for a slick sedan. The sedan will be very sick to handle the battery pack, so the only solution is an SUV.
sorry, should be "thick".
I had a leaf for about 2 years , and yes the seats i am not sure about yet. But you should absoluut upgrade to the Ariya 🙂. Depending on the settings if you leave the car it locks automatically if you come back it unlocks the car and then it stops charging i had this also a couple of time i hope it is something they change it is a bit annoying. Not sure if it is a bug or by design.
Please do some e-GMP with 58kWh battery.
Always worth returning . Bjorn is so enthusiastic . and he is almost human . keep up the good reviews .
holy moly: 25 min from 9-84 %; not toooo shabby :D
very interesting. any plans to get your hands on an MG4 any time soon?
I am also waiting
i love the nick name the fat leaf
lol look at all of the EVs we dont have in the US. I will probably go for the Ariya or Ioniq 5, based on what I have seen
Hi Bjørn. Love your in depth videos 👍🙂. Do you have plans to test the Renault Megane e-tech as well?
Yeah I really hope he can get one to test
Still waiting to get one...
@@bjornnyland yeah, real bummer that Renault can’t get you one
I actually wrote renault to try to help with that happening, but I don't have any followers or clout to throw around. I get mine end of October, and hope that Bjørn gets to try it before then, so I know some of the quirks
@@olestampevestergaard4746 I get mine in februar 🙂👍
Bjørn, how about using an electric blanket with the ecoflow? A few hundred watts and it heats you and the blanket, not the cabin. Cosy too 😆
Legacy automaker just disappoints. We're ready to pull the trigger with leaf knowing this type of slow charging and charging issues no way we are touching this on
Can't upgrade to the Ariya from my Leaf, as e-pedal is broken in the Ariya. Abd let the e-pedal now be one of those things I don't want to give up.
E pedal isn’t broken, it was a choice by the engineers to prevent full 1 pedal driving. Not sure why since it seems popular but according to surveys of leaf owners, overwhelmingly they responded that they did not like the fact that it would stop the car and it made them uncomfortable. I just wish they left it as a toggle for 1 pedal driving
@@Wasssup3232 I don' t know who they asked. I heard of some people leaving it off because they do not understand how it works. Stupid complaints like the regen is too strong because they take their foot off the pedal completely... As such there was no reason to break/remove the functionality as it is not really different from regular regen now. Personally I think it is idiocy on the level of not fixing the battery cooling on second gen Leafs... E-pedal was one of the main reasons why despite that I went for a Leaf. And as long as they do not restore the most comfortable and economical way of driving I will look elsewhere for a Leaf replacement.
A video about making toast in an Ariya. Who expected that?
"Fat Leaf" yeah
It’s a worth noting that drag (the force) isn’t the same as ‘drag coefficient’. Drag coefficient can only be compared where the cross section is the same. I feel the drag coefficient is becoming the next 0-100 - which is not a very useful metric when taking out of context but manufacturers & journalists love citing. It’s also becoming a handy trick to make SUVs seem efficient…
This is what i call an honest car. It's reasonable prized, it does the things you'd expect right, it has acceptable limitations and does not force you to make flawed compromises. And this is my problem with many VAG cars, VW in particular. I think VW, they do us dirty these days. Some of their cars realy do look quite nice from the outside but once you open the doors it becomes a sobering experience fast - hard plastics everywhere, a pathetic cockpit, no innovations in the interior what so ever....The price tag on the other hand....
It´s VW. Maybe the cars are good but the company itself...
Crazy car charging 🤪
WOW. As large as that parking lot was those guys intentionally are blocking the charging stations with their crappy beat-up derby looking noise maker. Everyone always think they're sticking it it to the EV guys. One day when EVs become even more mainstream we'll see laws against this and police out writing tickets or having these idiots towed. Treat that like a handicap space and charge $100 or more and that will stop them from parking their hunks of junk there.
Hi and thanks for the great video.Very specific and clear for the real world driving and charging. I would like to ask…i m in a dilemma and I was wondering if you could help me.I live in Cyprus where the longest distance is aprx 200 km and only once a month I have to go that far.Usually it s 35km to go and back. I m interested for the basic models (cheapest) of the following: Jeep Avenger 56 kWh(€38500), Nissan Ariya 63kwh(€40500) and Hyundai Kona 64kwh(€42500). Which one would you recommend?
Thanks
Φίλε παράγγειλα το Ariya, εφόσον είδα και τα άλλα. Οι 63kwh για την Κύπρο είναι υπέραρκετες.
Hi Bjørn, do you prefer the Kia e-Niro 2021 model over the Kia e-Soul or the other way around?
Maybe u mentioned it already but are u going to test the MY Standard Range anytime soon?I bet a lot of people are interested in seeing this test. Great Videos btw!
Not available yet.
Keep up the great videos Bjorn! Hoping that the upcoming 87 Kw version Ariya you test this weekend will be fitted with the more efficient 19” wheels.
Always charging problems. Thank you for filming these problems, it is the reality
Legacy Automakers 😂
@5:35 you say there‘s no preheating on the battery. But there actually is on all Ariya models.
Those Rode lapel mics are really good; sound on these videos is way better than a lot of other channels.
will you do the same test with renault megane 60kw please?
Nice! Video and dedication with the low but stable charing speed.
Maybe it's nice to present the average charging speed per session? Like "on average 78kW 4% -> 80% pretty good!" or kwh per minute or whatever.
Morning, i have tested this car here in Spain and i noticed an aerodinamic whistle on the right side, probably from the right mirror. Have you noticed that on the both ariyas? Maybe its only from the unit I have tested. Thanx
What was ths weather conditions for the nap stop? It looked a bit cold
Its a shame for all BEVs to need a power station to toast bread. Any BEV should have a power supply inside the car and V2device.
Well done Kia, Hyundai, Genesis.
Most Chinese EVs also have V2L.
Looks to me like this car is not ready for sale. That user interface is ugly and very badly organized. It keeps turning itself off too. Meh
Fossil raggare at Varberg =)
That hotdog are the lucky fro the trip and charging fast
love it i drove a leaf for four years now a mach e i clapped when nissan put the port on the side then the front
Should have plased at the corner of the car. Can not use charger with short cable like Tesla Supercharger
@@ralphhenriksen5861 true tesla will have to fix by longer cables
ABB
All B#ll#cks and Bulls#1t
Double 🌭 🖋️. Time to avoid. 🟤 🌧️ No good my friend.
Car 🍞 good😋
Why is he talking about it being cheap and id4 expensive when he has in his excel the 2 id4s with a bigger battery close to the top at around the same price as this car...
ID4 price is old and not updated. Prices went up a lot this year.
How can you charge at Tesla with a Chademo Car ?
Did you have an adapter Bjorn
Yes
Hi Bjørn. I got the same charging speed in Haaby on Sunday. 😢
ABB = Always Be Broken?
That toast are a ad to she'll?
I have the 87 KW battery, same color. I get stopped all the time with lots of questions Is that Nissan? Is it a hybrid? What color is that? How do say it's name? Wow, I almost got the Tesla. I didn't get it because of the roof and everybody has it. I wanted something different.
leave a comment and start watching)
screen is from 2010 ?
My wife and I drove the top of line 2WD Ariya and we didn't like it. The interior is very plasticky in a waxy and cheap way. You can hear the cost-savings when Bjørn opens and closes the glove boxes.
They are quiet but rather boring. The sound system is certainly better than that boring and weak Meridian sound system in the Kia EV6.
ABB = Always Be Broken 😊
ABB= Always Be Broken 😁
ABB - Always Be Broken😂
ABB = Always Be Broken
Your Next 1000km challenge will be in a Lexus RZ450e coming soon in Europe
Are you going to test the new Niro EV any time soon?
Yes
cool ev car...
16:40 time to leaf, time to leaf 🍃
another great video TB - wish there were more smaller EVs for you to test rather than endless SUV tanks.
15:46 LOL
Man i loved this vídeo
4:02 coold be Cooling problem in the cables thats why they is so shitty those chargers
in 3:03 minute do you see any thing on heavy rain ? and do you have steam problem when heavy rain become .. do you have it on ew unril now?
The problem is not the car. It is you cannot buy one now because the wait time is is absurd
In japan, the Ariya cost 5k USD more than as a model Y 🫠 Considering resell value, sadly tesla still best choice for now.
Soon there is as a Tesla in every street corner. Would be nice to have something different. Strange pricing though, here it is the other way around.
@@fredrikh8070 inshAllah😜
Definitely lacking butter on the outside of your toasted sandwich Bjørn! 🙂 It will turn your great meal into an incredible one!
Another quality drive video as normal. Great work!
Bad idea when on a road trip. Messy steering wheel, no thanks!
This one looks exactly like mine will on the outside, with all the extra stuff ;)
Kinda surprised to see such broken down things in Norway.
How does this time compare to the E+ LEAF?
The Leaf is terrible at the 1000km challenge, because the batteries don't have active thermal management, so they constantly overheat after your first fast charge... When bjorn tested the 62kwh leaf, it took him 15.5 hours for the 1000km challenge... Some charging stops it would not charge any faster than AC charging, cus the batteries were overheated.
Hey . The black car with the long bonnet. What was it?
24:56
By the way: love when you use some German words.
Kind regards from 🇦🇹
Hongqi
Bjørn, how do you know it the charger is limiting due to total current drawn from the rest of the chargers? Like the last charge when you got ~85 kW.
I hope you get the awd soon and they give you one with an updated software . I like this sh****t
Hey Bjorn, any chance of reviewing the Megane e-Tech when it's released?
Still waiting for the car from Renault...
24:50 also the raven is a ABC fan?
Bjørn, what was the menu screen showing when you were looking for the charging speed? It showed 130 and 90. Then you charge at 90 with the same frame around the number. Was it perhaps that you limited it to 90 instead of 130?
What I meant was that perhaps you happened to lock it to max 90 kW.
Hej Bjorn, do you have the possibility of doing a towing test on EVs
I suggest rainx, if you haven't tried it yet
Makes wipers nearly redundant
Thank you for the tip. I have used RainX many years. But remember that this is a press car. I don't apply RainX or other products on press cars since it's not mine.
Ionity now are sunder or zunder?
Bjorn, is they a way of seeing your spreadsheets for all the cars you have tested.
Great videos. 👍
Video description.
Nio et7 test?
Yes
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toasties, yum
Bjorn, did you try to use the manual preconditioning?
Yes, as I mentioned in the video.
@@bjornnyland you're right! I hadn't gotten to that part yet when I wrote the comment! lol Keep up the great work! SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!
I've been seeing ecoflow sponsoring some RUclipsrs, shortly after I see Bjorn buys it for testing , hmmmmm coincidence? maybe uncle Bjorn is hoping to get some sponsorship from them too :D I mean a baby and a new house cost a lot....just kidding, hope you get them as your sponsors
Not needed. I already bought the EcoFlows. And I already have enough sponsors. Just take a look in the beginning of the video.
So small battery now is 63kWh 🤔 ;-)
I love your reviews man, but I fail to understand the hype for EVs atm. One would get an estimated 300 miles from a decent EV. But that is the claimed range. Then you go real life and go down maybe 10 %. Then you want to keep your battery pack "happy" and don't charge 100% but keep it to 80-85%, so again...less range. Then you probably take a highway and go 120-130 km/h (instead of 90km/h) and your range drops some more. And maybe it's wintertime and the range decreases some more. And then you plan your longer trips carefully because the chargers are not as many as the fossil pumps (yet). And when you arrive at your suggested charging station, you realize that not all are in good working condition, or there are no superchargers, or you have to wait after some fossil cars occupying your spot, or whatever. Anyway, you spend a lot more time refueling. And ofc you should leave in a house, not an apartment (not feasible) and probably have some sort of renewable energy in place (maybe some solar panels), which is another story (and some more money). The EVs cost a lot more money than ICE cars, the KWh price is going up (see the biggest scam in EU atm - privatization and liberalization of the energy sector under the false promise that this would lead to greater efficiency, lower consumer prices, and a decarbonized economy). Last but not least...EVs are not that green in the end (production, battery not so recyclable, rare metals and stuff). Unless there's a battery breakthrough/revolution all this it's just ...LOL.
ariya charging sofware is so so bad
is affordable??
Yes
Great video as always. One question, what is this MEB or MEV cars you mention in the video?
Also would love to get your like best car in say cheap, mid , top layer section for EV's .
You drive them all so its nice to know in your view what car is on the top of these 3 categories. Or if you want to have 2 or more categories :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_MEB_platform
MEB is the platform for electric cars from Volkswagen, Audi and Skoda
I'm not Bjorn but I suppose MEB refers to the VW concern's basic platform for mid sized electric cars. He probably uses this abbreviation because it's easier than constantly listing all these VW group cars like VW ID3-4-5-6, Audi Q4-5, Skoda Enyaq, Seat Cupra Born etc.
@@bjornnyland Thank you!
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