Investigating a legend: St. Mary's Chapel. Small ruin or great pilgrimage site?
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A pilgrimage site, and a ruin to examine, plus a story of evil Norman clerics!
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Irrelevant fact:
The Beatles began writing their second hit single She Loves You in the Imperial Hotel in Jesmond, Newcastle upon Tyne on 27 June 1963.
Reference:
The story of the evil clerics comes from ARCHAEOLOGIA AELIANA OR MISCELLANEOUS TRACTS
RELATING TO ANTIQUITY. PUBLISHED BY THE SOCIETY OF ANTIQUARIES OF NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE. THIRD SERIES. VOLUME I. NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE :
R. Robinson & Company, Limited, Printers and Publishers.
MCMIV (1904). AN ACCOUNT OF JESMOND, BY FREDERICK WALTER DENDY.
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Watching you do archaeological analysis on random ruins around the country is a series I would watch endlessly.
Agreed
I crave more
This is fantastic stuff. So much better than mainstream media history documentaries
Agree!
Agree!
A Lindybeige video that wasn't made 6-2years ago? Well this is an early birthday gift
🤔 It looks rather pre-pandemic
congratulations ;)
How can you tell
And an archeological one at that!
@@aethelstanking6036 dig depth
I saw the ruins and imagined them being in a field, far from modern civilization, save for one road hundreds of meters away. Then you turned around and it was in the middle of a modern town.
In the US it would be a heap of trash covered in graffiti emitting a strong odor of something…ammoniac and stale.
The oldest abandoned building in my town is from 1898 and used to house a generator that helped power an electric railway. These days it matches the above description despite being four miles out of town proper.
There are some fairly well constructed skateboard ramps made of concrete in the interior, which is neat.
“Modern stained-glass... you can tell its modern ...because it’s awful.”
Give that man an O.B.E.
"So youre using the water on the plants then?"
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and Lindy pretending he understood any of it.
“I’ve been drinking it all my life and there’s nothin’ wrong with me!”
I thought the guy was somewhere from Eastern Europe and didn't know English very well :D
I'm a Geordie and I didn't understand a word of what he said.
Even Google's closed captions aren't quite up to it. It's starts well and get's up to "bush pieces" but then just sort of ... gives up? :D
The place still looks beautiful though
The fun you doin here.
Water looked really clear too :P
@Fuck RUclips ...
@Fuck RUclips have you seen that so many times you think it’s correct? If so, you maybe on the wrong channel.
Not as pretty as the d2 extract.
Wasn’t expecting to hear the story of the cleric and his goons, sounds like a classic D&D party!
I have always wanted to be in an all-cleric party.
Did you notice to make the cleric's names sound menacing he changed the pronunciation to French. I thought that was hilarious.
It might seem suspicious that there were several heads of John the Baptist, but bear in mind that one of them was the head of John the Baptist as a boy.
A pilgrim, overheard, upon viewing the head of John the Baptist as a boy: "I remember him being taller than that."
LoL
Suppose he could regrow his head each time he lost it.
@@cheekmcbreek1146 A *MIRACLE* !
What more could you ask.
Well you could ask 'What's the current ratio of disgruntled god botherers to rational folk based on the like/dilike ratio above'?
Its circa 1 to 106 by the way.
Goddamn time travelling robots..
17:00 lets make him more villainous! *changes accent to very French*
Obviously, the guy WAS FRENCH.
@@philipwebb960 I don't understand... I'm French Canadian and I'm very far from villainous.
Monsieur le Beige has a thing for French, obviously
@@ebenizerb.schlestertrappdu6943 That is exactly what a villain would say.
@@vonJosephu LOL! Oui, je crois...
"Modern stained glass. You can tell it's modern, because it's awful." If it were beautiful, someone would put a rock through it.
Looks like someone already had a few times!
And another after it's fixed...
A few Feedback Rocks never hurt anyone. If they do, then they’re a Hello Rock.
It was smashed a few years ago, this is actually the second effort
@@1paultay Send more stones!
Lindy: "So you're getting water for the gardens around here?"
Geordie: "No, you know them, where the... Ozzy street, the restaurants, there's like square like err, like bushpieces, and there's like in a circle err, and there's like two sets of bushes where the phonebox is? Yeah, I'm just putting some err, just for the dogs [a word I don't know]"
Lindy: "Uh-huh"
Geordie: "Yeah"
My best translation goes:
"No, you know on Osborne Road near the restaurants, there's the square bushpieces (might be square pots with ornamental bushes, or might mean bushes trimmed to have corners), there's the circle (might mean bushes are arranged in a circle, or that you've got to walk around them in a circle, or might be a circle unrelated to the bushes but nearby), they're near the phonebox. I'm just putting some water on the... For the dogs... (Think he's suggesting the dogs pee outside the restaurant on the pots that the bushes are in and he's filling the watering can so he can wash it away each time it happens).
EDIT: The phrase at the end might be 'for the dog's widdle' which would mean for the dog pee.
It's been pointed out that he might have said "postbox" instead of "phonebox". The phonebox nearby isn't particularly close to any building that matches his description, but the postbox is.
same I'm from sunderland dunno what he actually says in the last bit, sort of sounds like hes saying "where the dogs pittle" but he uses a w in pittle so maybes he's swillin the dogs piss idk
Nice translation. I’m free m America, and that sounds a lot like country or mountain people here. So I could kind of understand what he was saying, but didn’t quite get it. Thanks for helping out. 😊
Well if he's swilling water on dogs piss to wash it away, it seems that holy water might do a better job than normal industrial tap water.
Wittling is a term ive heard to mean peeing.
@@crcurley "I'm free m America" is american in a beautiful way
"Lord, I am afflicted by a bald patch" - Life of Brian
Underrated comment.
How shall we fuck off O lord
And absolutely deliberately so.
Just waiting for Lindsey to comment at the end of one of his brilliant narrations 'Half a Dinari? Half a Dinari for my bleedin' life story'?
To which only one reply could ever be acceptable.
@@Farweasel there’s no pleasing some people
@@dragunov- We have a winner!
Moustache Man at the well was either speaking Chaucer’s English or the essence of Geordie.
😂
"Essence of Geordie" The new Parfum de Givenchy
He sounded like a old man in Arkansas
"sudden emergencies of a spiritual nature". thats probably the name of a TV show somewhere
If not a show, a band
I think it sounds more like a song title of some pretentious emo band.
Either an anime or a prog rock album
I'd watch it
its my code phrase for "I need to take a sudden shit."
"It tastes of rotting leaves." An Englishman finally realises what tea is.
I suspect several lager louts stopped there for 3 minutes on return from the pub the previous evening.
You must be french. You're a villain.
Im not an englishman nor do i dring tea often, but tea is not rotten leaves, tea is mixture of multiple plant drugs (drugs in pharmacy term. May reffer to leaves, root, or any other plant part with healing properties.) Dried up, grinded or just fine cut depending on the plant and ultimately put into hot or boiling water. Nothing is rotten, and tree leaves are not used for tea. pharmacognosy is a fun subject.
Edit: you should probably filter your tea, or you can use drugs already packaged in filther papeg bags.
@@teofiloljubisavljevic7943 with liberal application of the term "rotting", tea is made from rotting tea leaves. ignoring tea made from other herbs
@@andruloni well, that would be quite liberal. If we ignore other drugs, and consider tea being made of leafs only, they are dried up leaves. Usually what takes to start rotting process is moosture. Dried up leaves are kinda the opposite.
"Or if you wanted to make it sound more villainous, *adds french accent* Robert Sautmereis" XD I love you Lindy, never change
I have a lifetime injunction from ever visiting Jesmond because I was one of the people trying to save the trees in the 1990s and got arrested !
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We have long memories here. You might change your hairstyle, change your clothes, shave off your beard, but we'd still know you!
I remember that - the coast road underpass? I recall talking to some of the people camped there.
Those dog walkers have a lot to answer for
I’m guessing the trees were not saved, then?
*That bit that fell off there was going to fall off anyway" made me smile. Thank you for another wonder history lesson.
I would actually love a 30+min video of Lindybeige caught up in the romance feeling of moss growing on the stones of a fake ancient building.
I love visiting old ruins/abandoned buildings. It's even better when someone who is knowledgeable about its history and construction leads the way.
I would love to go on a field trip with this guy.
Or the pub, even. 🍺😎👍
@@farrier2708 A field trip where all the destinations are, conveniently, within walking distance of a nice pub?
I'm not a social person, so I'll take a tour in a large group where I can hang back and listen without being expected to talk to anyone. Then when it's pub time I'll just head back to the hotel.
I'd want to be that guy who randomly stumbles upon him going on a very intimate lecture at a museum
@@MartinTraXAA : Like beer. M', There are no bad pubs. it's just that some are much better than others.
I tell a lie! There is nothig so sad, desolate or drear, than to walk in the bar of a pub with no beer.
The pillars of the ancient Jewish temple were different - named Jachin and Boaz. The asymmetry is probably a reflection of that tradition.
I wondered if they were salvaged from a Roman ruin. What do you think?
@Manda Grub
Unlikely, since it's Norman. If it were Early Saxon, then maybe.
@@wardygrub salvage was my thought, though thats 100% a guess. people used to reuse a lot of stone
Lloyd's going to regret doubting the well's power tomorrow when he wakes up with an afro like Bob Ross.
There’s a ten second period when the Geordie is mumbling gibberish at Lloyd that RUclips’s closed captions just give up.
I keep seeing people refer to the man as 'the Geordie" i don't know what that is?
@@benjaminwatt2436 “Geordie” is a nickname for those who speak “Newcastle English”. It’s also used to describe someone or something from Newcastle, such as the “Geordie Schooner” beer glass.
You have in your hands a device that accesses the entirety of human nature. Try using it for a change
@@redram5150 Thanks, I figured it must have been a local term in England. and i much rather talk to a real person than look something up on my phone. i like people
@@benjaminwatt2436 that’s the roundabout way of saying “too lazy to do it for myself”
@@redram5150 nah, I just like interaction.
More on location documentaries in the future would be awesome.
Agreed! OG subscribers remember his old videos in Greece and Turkey. 👌
I could listen to you give a two hour lecture on the drying of paint
Now there's a challenge! How about a podcast listening to paint drying?
@@lindybeige If you used at least half a dozen colors and 3 or 4 different bases while telling a few tales about the development of such things you'd have solid video
ASMR of paint drying would be wonderful.....
ly long.
@@lindybeige would be a challenge for sure, but if anyone could make it worth listening to, its you my friend
'3:04 AM, Somewhere in Newcastle' is such a Lindy mood
“Anyway, it is now 6:00 a.m. as I type this, and I want to go to bed.” Oh post-video Lindybeige, the commitment you put in for your fans
"trust me I'm the pope" is gonna be in the next lindybeige without context calling it here
And if you know your history, well, saying something like that is probably likely to make people trust you less
This same tactic of hijacking something that is already popular instead of creating your own original thing, is a live and well today.
Well, not just places - look at the date that was chosen to celebrate Christmas, carefully placed over the Yuletide festivities.
bit like what the movie industry does with already established stories written by authors. haha.
Like re-writing existing characters to fit radical woke nonsense.
@@phillee2814 That is terrible example of this, considering the times each happened, that yule doesn't have monopoly for winter solstice, and general lack of any evidence.
It’s timeless.
One day Mr L got up in the morning and was like "I gotta show the world this bunch of stones!" and i appreciate that.
Don't we all wish Lindybeige was our eccentric British uncle?
"Uploaded 11 seconds ago"
nice.
"Commented 11 minutes ago"
nice.
Actually it was uploaded exactly 60 minutes ago. Just stating the facts.
It is a blessed day when lindy posts
We need more episodes like this. Its really fun seeing Lindybeige go around analysing old buildings like this!
Cool how he caught Ozzy Osborne’s father watering plants.
My day always gets better when I get notified of an upload from Lloyd!
that is interesting, "lort" still means "shit" in Danish, there is also the etymologically closer "skidt", which is less common though, and can also mean dirty or bad stuff.
Off topic but nevertheless: "I fart" means “in movement/motion" in Danish. Yes, a funny people, the Danes. The end (or "slut" in Danish).
@@schmohawk5512 haha yeah that's a pretty funny fact. Here are some extra fun facts related to this: We also have traffic signs for those speed measuring things, that are marked in a bold "FARTKONTROL" also theres a city called "Middelfart". The "fart" in this name however, means path, (related to the german "Pfad", possibly to path as well (?), could also mean crossing, as "overfart" is usually said as the word for a water-crossing today, and the city is situated just where you cross between regions of the country, across a belt.
"Lort" means "dirt" in modern Swedish.
@@magnusolert1195 mycket interessant på vilka punkter vores språk har utvecklats i olika retningar. (forlåt mit dårlige svenska)
we have skidt marks here in amerika
2:48 Interestingly enough, where I live (Asturias, north Spain), there is the thought that near every church there should be a (very big) yew tree. Actually this is because the celts that roamed these lands gave yew an special significance and all important reunions where done around the biggest of these trees, often in the center of a town, which led to build the churches in said places.
You can still find yew in most of the churches' grounds in rural areas.
In Britain too!
I love the historical content, you always bring unique topics to light that I never knew i needed.
"Let's get a Holy Relic" they said. And then Lindybeige turned up. Its a miracle!
As a Christian, I appreciate the relative even-handedness of Lloyd's presentation of religious subject matter. Perhaps the chapel isn't "romantic" for him, but he allows it to be for me.
Also Christian. We need skeptical atheists to show us things that are bollocks. I.E St Mary's well. I can imagine Jesus face palming seeing that.
@@SeriousKarol "We need skeptical atheists"
I shall stop you right there, lest we'll descent into the times akin to the bolshevik Russia.
@@SeriousKarol One need not be an atheist to be a skeptic/critical thinker. In fact atheism itself presents a dogma. Please don't conflate Agnostics with Atheists either, I have no problems with Agnosticism and find it to be a purely rational point of view even if the information I've collected in life as led me to different conclusions.
@@OGPatriot03
I'm probably(?) an atheist.
But I still find it deeply ironic that the greatest minds in science have concluded that everything exploded out of nothing 😂
That's not any less ridiculous than saying God made the universe in seven days, even though he made the sun somewhere in the middle, meaning there were no days yet 😅
Anyhow, the point of my comment was merely that science is indeed not immune to dogma.
And that the big bang may have been God's fart 🤣
If I'm a Christian but don't believe it. Am I still Christian?
Because I have the sudden urge to argue.
16:00 this immediately brings nostalgia, the drawing style is _so_ time team.
"In fact there's so much that if you tried to listen to all of it, it'd take you three centuries."
I know what I'm gonna do the next 300 years
New cameraman or did your chastising of them last week take effect?😉
“You can tell it’s modern because it’s ...awful”😂
They couldn't film the ceiling, because there is no ceiling
That comment earned my like
I find often that modern art lacks symmetry
Finally in "Fortunately notification does work" squad
That's where you're wrong, the recommendations favored me.
I’m not lmaoo
What we didn't see: Lloyd was hospitalized after drinking that waste water.
He was trying to jump the NHS queue for hair-loss treatment.
LOVE this video. Reminds me of the old school vids about cloaks, ancient houses, etc. It’s why I fell in love with the channel in 2015. Thanks for the gift, Lloyd.
I alwasy thought, relics in a monastery gave you an extra gold income
I wonder if a countdown timer would start if they managed to gather all the heads of St. John the Baptist.
I have all nineteen of John the Baptist's petrified fingers. Will sell them individually, or as a complete set.
Age of Empires confirmed?
Please do a pilgrimage from Lindisfarne to Canterbury and tell us about what medieval pilgrims would have done and seen in and around the sites they visited. I"d watch that for days.
That would be a long video....
@@iacobushadrianus7889 So would I!
2 years after this video was made I'm leaving this humble comment to say how much I enjoyed it. It was educational and it was brought in a very engaging way. Thank you for making this video.
Loving the tonsure Lindy. That's real dedication
i think lindy found his old clothes in the back of the closet and decided to do another history video on location.
Just this time to the wonders of Newcastle upon Tyne and not Babylon
Leaving his whip, pistol, and Fedora at home, of course.
@@brianartillery But bringing his quarter-staff, naturally.
lindybeige has already visited the world over very many times, it just takes him a while to catch his breath after talking for so much
Walsingham, in Norfolk was a place many pilgrims went. Still do. The village I live in has a church, the Head of St. John the Baptist.
Not far from jesmond is Wolsingham, by coincidence.
More accurately 'one of Saint John the Baptist's heads'.
@@lindybeige like worzel gummidge he had many heads.
@@dogwalker666 Or Kryten, with his "Spare head 1, Spare Head 2 and Spare Head 3 - the one with 'droid rot!" :-)
@@jcorbett9620 indeed.
Lindy is the only person whose sponsor speeches I'm not skipping :D
Wonderful! Please do more of this sort of thing. Watching you flex your archaic muscles was impressive!
You should see the Rock of Cashel Ruins, County Tipperary, in Ireland. Probably one of Largest Ireland, if not Europe!
This video reminds me of the good old days of him tromping through Turkey and former Yugoslavia
Got links?
@@BallstinkBaron lookup lindybeige archeology
@@samnathan1677 Nice! Thank you!
Yes Lindy! Thankyou for visiting Newcastle. it’s lovely to be educated on a structure that most people live so close to but don’t know much about! Keep up the great work
These are my favorite kind of videos. I think I've watched most of the videos in the archaeology playlist several times.
I love his stories and general ramblings... i could listen for hours... especially during this pandemic, so thank you!
It’s always wonderful when lindybeige uploads!
Oh wow. Everytime I'm ready to give up on YT it recommends something amazing that I love.
Settling in for a binge. (Liked and subbed, of course)
Everyone wishes Lindy Beige was their dad on family vacations.
"I am from the Holy Roman Empire, and I am here to help."
He actually drank it, the absolute madlad!
Lindybeige: Time Team edition!
Omg I'd love to see him and Tony team up for an episode of time team
@@ChimozuFu I'd like to see him arguing with John the Geophysicist and Stewart Ainsworth.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 I reckon him and Phil would get on though
@@ChimozuFu over a pint of beer, of course.
Wonderful video, really good insight into the way history can be "read" and speculated on from subtle clues.
You really should have your own tv show, I love your enthusiasm when telly a story and makes it even more interesting. Please keep doing your wonderful beige ramblings.
I walk around Jesmond Dene all the time. Love this place.
Some dude in the middle Ages: Wouldnt it be funny if we pretended this little chapel was really important?
That isnt a little chapel
@Pete Tiesti Fuck dude. It’s a video about an old church. You snowflakes gotta make everything about politics?
Please never stop making videos these are all so amazing and informative
That's absolutely beautiful! Thank you for sharing.
“Sudden emergencies of a spiritual nature.” 🤣🤣🤣
"So you're getting water for the gardens round here?"
*incomprehensible gibberish*
"Uh-huh"
As if you actually understood a word that guy just said!
He said you know Osborne road with the restraunts the part with bushes in a square where the phone box is, just using the water for the dogs wittle, meaning he will use the water to was away the dogs pee from the street
‘Three heads of John the Baptist. Must have been a pretty extraordinary chap.’
Your videos are great
I've just discovered your chanel and I have been binge watching your videos your the best historian in the business.
Drinks healing water. "Great. Now I've got Cholera."
"So, you're getting the water for the gardens 'round here?"
*talks in Ozzy language*
Please more videos like this Lloyd. Absolutely amazing work
Thanks for insight into the archeological process. I'm fascinated by how little we seem to know about this place.
"Ahh yes, my trusty Candle for sudden emergencies of spiritual nature "
When I was stationed in Mannheim in the 80s, I'd take walks through the downtown area. The architecture there is brick, stone, and stucco construction. Some of the buildings have substantial repairs visible, to the extent one wonders what caused the damage. I'm a history buff, so concocted all sorts of scenarios as I took these walks.
Just found your videos. Just what I’ve been looking for. I’ve been binge watching. Thank you !!
All other videos are 5 mins long and tell you 1% of the story.
Fantastic walkthrough of a lesser known local. Its always interesting to see how culture has changed and yet simultaneously stayed the same.
"There's a fresh candle right here for emergencies...of a, uh, spiritual nature!" Ahh, I just love how British people can be more insulting with a seemingly innocuous statement containing no overt insult than if they just came right out and said, "I think this whole business is a load of shite."
One man's shite is another man's refuge.
I guess an emergency of a nature would be where one is contemplating exiting from this plane of existence.
We probably shouldn’t "love" people choosing passive-aggressiveness over honest speaking from the gut. It’s just cowardly.
it's just british humor. get cultured.
@@LordTurtleneck No we shouldn't, just be polite. Instead of saying “You are talking complete balls” say “There may be something in what you are saying”. This is less hurtful.
Lindy we want to see you in your armor!
Awfully glad to have you back, sir.
Love the energy of your presentation!
Lindybeige would be the best history teacher ever!
He is!
Besides learning all about a nice little chapel, I've just found out that there's actually a difference between 'jail' and 'prison.' Daft me, I've been using them interchangeably.
I love these styles of videos where you look at ruins, more pls!!
Please do more videos like this, I think that your on-site analysis of ruins is your best content.
This video was awesome. I would love more videos like this.
It's interesting to think about how our modern "restoration" drastically changes our impression of the past. Without Lindy pointing out the inconsistencies, I would simply take the ruin as it is, and my idea of the construction of the time would be different than it actually was
Very nice to see you out and about in the wild!
Love your channel! Just found out about it and have been binge watching your videos. Cheers from British Columbia!
Little known fact: William of Punsland would later go on to open the famous chain of bargain shops known as Poundland.
I was there very recently.
Would have been nice to bump into Lloyd :(
Thank you for such a lot of info about this lovely shrine of Our Lady.
I really appreciate when you define vocab words at the bottom of the screen
it's nice
I would've had 0 idea what a *dene* was otherwise!