Basketry - the ancient versatile craft, as demonstrated by an incompetent
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Basket weaving, using materials like willow, creates strong and light items with a thousand uses. Basketry and pottery between them created much of the ancient world. Here, I have my first ever try at the craft, and, well, you can decide for yourself how well I did.
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l'd like to see more series of "ancient versatile crafts, as demonstrated by an incompetent."
I would love that
You should come to my house
A Cobb barn.
Skinning a tiger.
Knapping flint arrowheads.
Making a coracle.
I'd watch that :)
Like an incompetent version of primitive technologies
I suggest, for starters, incompetently making fish nets, and animal traps.
As someone who used to teach basketry at a Boy Scout camp, I can confirm the “can it work as a hat” test is extremely important and is an ancient tradition…probably.
I hear that in Japan it is a legal requirement.
Lol u guys are awesome
Did you teach it… underwater?
@@drinks1019 That was an advanced lesson for the scouts who really grasped the concept. Needless to say, almost never. Lol
@@nickdesalvo4271 of course, in all my years of scouting I have seen but 1 scout actually achieve a underwater basket. He was a legend.
please make "Incompetent craft" into a series.
Please.
@@CraftQueenJr yes!! one other person thinks it's a great idea.
go on lloyd you know you can. you could even tie it in with the great courses plus. 😁
I want to see him incompetently make a Lute!
This ^
yes for sure
Lloyd's skill at weaving is matched only by his love of France!.
@Aquinasish Seriously? That is quite interesting to learn
@Aquinasish I doubted it the moment someone asked a frenchman anything. But weirder things have happened in history so I thought: Why not?
Ya know, about two years ago in the comments section, someone had wrote something to the effect of:
"I bet Lindybeige could make basket weaving interesting!!"
I suspect that this old comment was the inspiration for today's video...
That commenter wasn't wrong, I watched the entire thing.
same here, thought to myself "eh, basketweaving? i don´t think it´s that interessting" and yet here i am, watched the full video, looking for some willowbranches to buy... thanks lindy!
I Bet he could even make the communist revolution interesting.
If that’s from memory I’m really amazed
@@uiopisreal9966 The Russian one or the current one happening in America?
Lloyd will be making a Persian sparabara wicker shield in no time.
Or an Artillery redoubt maybe?
Because of your comment I learned a little bit more of history, thanks!
That would be very cool. There's some animal hide incorporated into that type of shield isn't there? I'm looking forward to his leather tooling tutorial ;)
For some time now I suspected there had to have been shields made from plant material. Your comment gave me the search words to look for it. Thank you :)
That does look like it would be less upsetting. Possibly not at all, in fact.
I'm a self taught basket weaver, and in my opinion, you did a fantastic job for your first attempt, especially because you had no one to advise you, yet you worked out how to solve issues you were presented with. Please do try making yourself a waste paper basket next, as you're definitely on the right track, and you're grasping what to do really quickly, so I'm sure you'll succeed!
Well done Lloyd, you'll be an expert in no time, I'm sure!
For the basket, I used a flower pot.
Yep, the waste paper or old newspapers work really well for practicing basketry.
Also, it doesn't ruin your hands in the process
A self taught basket weaver? ^_^ I love how people can be so unexpectedly diverse with what things they are into/skilled at. Cool.
@@lystic9392 a lot of these sorts if crafts are at their heart very simple. Anyone with a bit of time and pocket change can buy into a new Hobby and pick up the basics in an hour or two. And yet they yield almost endless room to grow and expand, and reward persistence and creativity.
Which is to say: try something.
Somewhat interesting note on the history of weaving in England (I'm not sure if this applies to basketry but I see no reason why it wouldn't): a significant chunk of weavers were blind, and had been from birth. Blind children were very often taught either how to weave by touch or how to play an instrument to support themselves into adulthood.
I remember reading a fictional book that included a brief stint of the plot in the 1910s Caribbean and a blind man had spent his whole life weaving because of this. I would hazard that this was quite common in cultures, as weaving is one of the few things you can do entirely by feel but still be industrious before the advent of automated production lines.
As a trumpet player, I can cofirm that a clarinet is a very suitable hammering implement.
Another trumpet player here, I'd have to say I agree
I tried to learn drums for a few weeks about 12 years ago, I can't really disagree with you
As a former clarinette player, I can atteste to this statement
There was this one time at band camp
Why exactly are clarinet players always the butt of jokes? There's a regional band that has a song in which the clarinet players throw up into the trombones because they are too drunk. So I think it must be true.
Doing this and not swearing is hugely impressive.
It is edited down from over four hours of footage.
@@lindybeige Ha!
@@lindybeige so were is the uncut version? :D
@@styxspeedrun Release the Basket Cut!
A Study In English Basket Construction.
Rated 18.
Unsuitable for those of a nervous disposition
"There are so many mistakes in the weaving a further mistake isn't anything approaching a disaster." Ah equilibrium.
It's like when you're baking or something else involving paint or other dirty and sticky substance, and try to keep your hands clean. After a while you just stop caring, because the battle is already lost.
Woodworker here. Length absolutely effects the rate at which wood absorbs water. Wood absorb and loses water primarily through the end grain. This is why freshly cut or green lumber is sealed with wax at the end before it is left to dry out. Longer reeds would mean it takes longer for water to diffuse from the ends to the center.
Like a bundle of paper straws soaking up water, yeah they will eventually soak up water through the walls, but much easier through the open straw.
"30lbs that's about 14 thousand grams if you're french"
Never change Lloyd lol
His imperialist blood just boils when he wants to give details in metric
13607.
@@demonetized6837 Rounded up.
I was glad I didn’t have a drink in my mouth when he said that… 🤣
As a Frenchman I highly appreciate that Lloyd makes an (visibly very painful) effort to do the conversion into a superior units system in spite of his British indoctrination.
Me: After all this he better put this basket on his head.
*Lloyd puts basket on his head*
Me: Ah yes, there it is. Nice.
Please, add spoiler alerts when you give away details in the comments section. I haven't got to the head part yet :(
@@fuzzylogickben Lindy dies at the end
@@ShagShaggio We all do.
@@IamOutOfNames indeed.
Now, if this doesn't happen, I'm going to have a bone to pick with you, sir. 😋
In this film, our British hero confronts the highest stakes of his lifetime, as he is dragged into a world of tightly woven mysteries, towards an unexpected outcome.
Don't forget all the kinky mishaps due to his dabbling with French techniques.
@@johnladuke6475 Ahh, that nemesis lurking from across the Channel! ^^
Growing up, my parents always referred to useless college degrees as majoring in “Underwater Basket Weaving”. I have never tried to weave a basket but had always assumed it’d be easy. This amusing video makes me want to try because maybe it is not so easy!
Everything sounds easy until you take a crack at it, but it wouldn't be very rewarding if they weren't. Best of luck with your weaving endeavors.
Under water basketry teaches the skill of performing complex tasks while diving. You can go on to learn to repair heavy equipment et al and make an absolute fortune in the oil industry.
It's not because it's easy, it's because you're investing a very large amount of effort and time into something that yields very little results; like most degrees.
Your parents wouldnt like me. Idk why i had the urge to say that lol
@@brainletmong6302 Exactly. It's not that weaving is easy, it's that it's been superseded by other methods of production and your degree will be of little worth to anyone, including yourself.
"I've checked with them, and they are absolutely fine with it!"
You checked with... the fish?
Well of course he did. That's just proper British manners.
Sure. "If any of you fish have any objections to me soaking these willow rods in your pond, please speak up now......No? Great!".
@@silentotto5099 That reminds me of the classic "Put your hand up if you're not here. No-one? good."
You.......didn't know Lloyd could speak with fish?
Of course, one of them was having a bit of a headache so I'm sure the willow was welcome.
Actually, when the british use the adjective "French", they're usually implying that something isn't being done properly; for example french leave or french cricket. Only the americans use it to imply sophistication.
As in french fries!
Or referring to a venereal disease "the French pox"
French letters?
Incidentally, the French call French leave English leave.
They are not French but frenched. That is cut in the manner the French call julienne. Fries are in fact Belgian.
Yeah the American French fry is not named for that reason. when the American troops thought they were in France they were in Belgium. and they learned about frying potatoes in this manner. when they came home they thought they were in France they knew they needed to fry potatoes so they called them French fries. And that's why we have French fries all over the country.
How about French bread?
As someone who's actually tried basket making, I would like to thank you for all the joy this video brought me.
Back in the day when Lindy posted an hour long video about siege ladders that felt like only ten minutes to watch, I thought "he'll never gonna top this". I was wrong.
"Those of you who have read your SAS Survival Handbook..."
*Looks at bookshelf*
Man knows his audience
That he does
Perhaps too well.
He does... Do you have the big one, or the pocket one?
Yep i've got it
On the bookshelf right above my desk.
I'm looking forward to seeing Lloyd weave Lapti - the Russian authenti-shoes.
Oversimplified fan I see
Lapti aren’t made from willow. Rather from a type of reedy bast.
Medieval backpacks were weaved, so that would be a really good thing to make and test!
Would make a great quivver. Not for battle, better for target practice.
Watching your descent into madness and chaos makes me feel better about every skill I've ever been terrible at.
I spent a few hours today cleaning up willow branches that blew down in a wind storm last night. I was thankful for the flexibility of willow because it allowed me to stuff branches into the bin without cutting them into small pieces, as must be done with branches from less flexible trees to prevent them from getting tangled and wasting a lot of space in the bin. Saved me quite a bit of cleanup time. Of course, even more time would have been saved if my grandmother didn't have an enormous tree in her yard that that sheds branches like some kind of arboreal chemotherapy patient, but if we must bear our little crosses in life, at least they can be light, flexible, and free of thorns.
" but if we must bear our little crosses in, at lest they be lite, flexible and free of thorns."
Yeah I'm stealing that
My grandmother had a willow tree in the garden too.
What a terribly clever comment. You must be a writer of some sort.
I don't care what the subject of the video is, I'll watch Lindy for any reason.
@@everettstormy Lloyd* and I will too. Just a great speaker he is.
"Omg it’s pleasant jumper man" - My friend gets Lindybeige
"Mr Jolly beige man!"
Generally every night, I fall asleep to your lectures, on the longer ones I’ll watch about 20 minutes then fall asleep, then the next night, I’ll go to the last spot I remember In the video and start from there. The early days of the sas video is probably my favorite. Ive always hated lectures, but you’ve managed to change my point of view, and have made me actually enjoy learning, so thank you for that.
"I don't know, I don't know what I'm doing!" I love this man so much
Seeing Lloyd employing a cameraman instead of having a tripod or a hand held camera feels quite jarring. Frightening really.
Lindy should weave himself a tripod.
@@truegrit1860 yeah that was my point, not sure what this guy is on about
well at least he is not french
not one but two!
@@NorroTaku It's a whole movie studio in there now! And he keeps his cameramen away from their families!
If the Procedure is called "Wailing", this should be a hint how much fun it will be to do.
Upsetting always leads to wailing...
I made a wicker casing around a bottle to use as a water bottle for LARPing. The willow was thin and of fairly uniform diameter, which made things much easier. Also having a shape (the bottle) to act as a form really helped. If you want to try basketry as a beginner then I can recommend this to start with.
Next up: Lindy weaves an entire suit of armor out of willow reeds
4am is a rather fascinating upload time.
I mean, we're all awake and clicked it...
its 9 am where i am from
I mean it sorta worked XD
11:08 pm for me
A civilised 3.18pm here yall need ta get some sleep :D
I could watch Lindy do literally anything for hours and hours and not get bored
Anybody else notice the laughing and smiling getting progressively more maniacal?
Just smile and pretend nothing is wrong.
Lindybeige please I beg to god please make more videos of this, stream your basket weaving adventures! I will watch every minute of you weaving many different containers for many many hours.
Well he might still need that waste bin he set out to make.. That somehow ended up a slightly odd fruit basket instead. Only time will tell what the next one will end up actually being.
Oh good. All those classes in underwater basket weaving will finally be useful to me.
Underwater basket weaving is silly nonsense. The willow would become far too soggy.
Used to love giving directions to the new kids in HS. Whatever class they want is next to underwater basket weaving
@@brianhall4182 I use palm leaf.
@@Miata822
Some of the best basket weavers out there are the ones that weave Montecristi Panama Hats. A hat is a basket you wear.
As a basket weaver who's been following you for years, if you'd wanted a go I'm in the north of england, you should of mentioned, I'd give you a hand
As another man once said: "If you do everything right the first time, you'll never learn anything."
I really, really enjoy this video. In my experience, going at old cultural techniques as a pampered 20th century European teaches you a good amount of humility. But, and I may sound like a hopeless romantic here, the feeling of having made something with your own hands is nothing less than amazing.
Building something with your hands is one of the best feelings of humankind. Even just cooking is satisfactory when you make a complex meal. If you like cooking of course
I feel that way with knitting sometimes. "I took this random yarn and made something useful with it. SO COOL."
Title has caused me traumatic flashbacks to Boy Scout camp when I was 12
You too huh? Honestly the actual weaving wasn't that hard once you got the hang of it. For mean the hard part was the kits needed to be soaked for what felt like forever to make the stuff able to bend without breaking.
By scout's at 12?
@@phredphlintstone6455 I earned the Arrow of Light
@@pandeonwaters5096 that's not boy scouts, that's Webelos
@@phredphlintstone6455 I know. I mean to say that I joined Boy Scouts early because I earned my arrow of light
No in the US Vaseline is called Vaseline. Everywhere I've been, anyway.
You mean ass jelly?
Really? I had to describe it to some people from Michigan.
Huh. I'm from Michigan and certainly know what Vaseline is. Aka petroleum jelly.
@@lindybeige from Texas its typically called Vaseline.
@@lindybeige I was born and raised in Michigan. We call it Vaseline. The generic term is petroleum jelly. But no one calls it grease.
I'm really sitting at work, doing some mundane tasks, whilst watching an nigh-on hour long video of a guy who has never weaved a basket before trying to weave a basket.
This channel is great!
On old crafts that people don't think about, I look forward to you turning flax into linen.
Me too!!
Other people buy a green screen. Lindy paints a wall green.
It's not that uncommon in film studios. Screens are good for portable shooting, but if you're *always* going to be editing the background of a static location, a regular coat of paint is cheaper and regular cleaning is easier than carefully storing a screen.
@@everettstormy You watched a video on basket weaving. Don't pretend you didn't come here to learn.
@3:59: "..if there is fish in the pond..." he said as a fish surfaced behind him.
He said “yes, there are fish in this pond”
@@a.s.j.g6229 The fishes have great comedic timing.
Stone carving starts to look more appealing
And so does eating fire-ants.
How did I end up watching (and actually enjoing) an Englishman struggling to craft a basket? Oh, I remembered why. I love this guy!
I would refuse to use directions that use terms like "left" or "right" when referring to a circular object.
Completely correct, as we all know the directions for disc like objects are turnwise and widdershins
@@ZagorTeNayebo sunwise and widdershins, to be pedantic.
@@ZagorTeNayebo or hubwards and rimwards
East and West on a globe
Or dis way or dat way.
Lindy out here weaving baskets instead of finishing In Search of Hannibal
In search of In Search of Hannibal...
@@Warmaka yes
Getting an update on this would be great. I still trust that we're going to get it eventually, but it's already years overdue and maybe it should be the primary focus until it's done.
Or the armour.
I’m not surprised he’s having difficulties. It’s really tough finding consistent sources on the Carthaginians. The Romans went out of their way to erase Carthage from history... and pretty much succeeded.
I have always wondered what 30 pounds of willow rod looked like. Those are some real-life skills that, to me, were long forgotten. Brilliant video!
I really enjoyed this. It was refreshing to watch a video of someone who isn't an expert. I admire that LindyBeige kept going despite his many uncertainties and setbacks, and at the end of it all had a functional basket. As a perfectionist, I struggle with the idea that creating something flawed is better than not creating, so it was encouraging to see how much he learned through the process itself.
Wow! You said French and didnt gag/stutter! We're all proud of you!
Won't make him forget the hundred years war result
RETURN OF THE KING
Fellowship Of The Basket
The Two Cameramen
Now, for wrath and ruin.
It's known as Vaseline in the US as well. I've never heard it called grease.
Incompetent Basketry - a glorious demonstration of man's ability to attain ever diminishing goals over time. It was positively heroic !
I would have started a willow bonfire at about the half-hour mark..
Well done sir..!
Uploaded 17 seconds ago, lady luck is on my side! Thank you RUclips for delivering such great content so fast.
Please, please don't be alarmed by issuance of this video: willow is beige, you know.
"let us love one another" is a rather wholesome motto
i like to imagine some super experienced grandma coming up to the lindys bastket, pulling on the right rod and the entire thing just explodes
I love the near feeling of crying from trying and failing miserably at something new, I definitely relate, often trying stuff way outside my depth... It's carpentry so you can always just throw it in the fire if you please.
Don't you mean cabinetmaking? Cabinetmaking is for boxes and furniture and things, whereas carpentry is for houses and---
Oh. Oh, I see...
@@VidkunQL cabinetmaking is a form of carpentry.
Hell yeah, got a new beige video, still remember the first of your videos I saw XD was being a berserker and biting a shield
My first was the one about spiky armour. :)
It's so refreshing to see all the little mistakes and hardships that come with skills like basketry! I feel like a lot of channels I've seen that do videos with basketry tend to already be pretty experienced with it and certain mistakes end up being discouraging watching them.
My cats absolutely loved chasing the willow strands on the tv. Thanks for the video Lloyd!
Nothing makes me happier than seeing a long video
Grin! And me as well
Guess RUclips decided we’re not seeing Lindy’s latest hour long activity
I did not realize it was an hour long. you saved me quite some time thank you
?? I think that there is a reference here that I don't know. Was the video not working when you first tried to view it?
I don't get it either.
@@lindybeige yes, it kept saying error when the notification first popped out. Your video was there in the list, but I’d click and the video kept saying error. Then I waited about 20 minutes and it played just fine
@@lindybeige Notifications not coming through for this video
I just came home from an 11 hour workday. I sat down on my couch with a pack of crisps and a beer, and just when i though this evening couldn't get better I saw an hour long Lindybeige video.
This is cool.
The first time I made a basket, me and the boys were sitting down by the bridge I made, dipping cept I don't do that so I was bored.
I cut down some briars and cut the thorns off and I made a ring with a few of them. This was the lip of the mouth of the basket. I then made a rough dome with two ends of short stretches of briar in either side of the ring part. Over and over. I still have that basket for getting eggs.
I did some incompetent basketry couple decades ago when I was a member of the Boy Scouts of America. Ended up getting heat stroke but that is another story.
Well thanks to advocist lawsuits no other young boy will have to suffer those horrors.
Consequences
I thought Lloyd had a fancy, but rather green, swimming pool in the back of his new house but nope it's just a pond.
I prefer a pond.
Go to Lloyd's and you just might end up swimming with the Fishes.
@@Wallyworld30 I imagine that's what the weights are for.
You see, chances are if Lindy were to own a swimming pool - most certainly - it would be beige.
@@str_j1649 - He doesn’t have a pool: it’s a willow-soaking bath.
Who cares if its a "manly" or "girly" thing, learning about basketry is really quite fascinating! I love to see people learning all sorts of crafts, from glass blowing to brick making.
I know right, I'm a grown man doing embroidery, which is unambiguously "girly" but who gives a damn ? I'm happy to do a relaxing craft that doubles as decor.
I'm sure it would be manlier to garden or work on the car but I own neither, just do things you enjoy and let people enjoy things, life's complicated enough without having to care what people think.
I'm under the impression, Lloyd just had a little bit of fun there, and used it as a casual way to talk about the history of the craft.
Lloyd used to be a dancing teacher.
wait is basketry a manly or girly thing? i had always thought of it as a wilderness type person activity and not having any sort of association with any gender.
@Spec88 yeah but he’s also european so i was surprised if it would be much different from my experience.
Im glad that Lindybeige checked with the fish before borrowing a little bit of space in their home. Only he could be so considerate! That is why we are here!
lindy FFS bring back the "more on that later" pls.
why?
@@deetvleet because it is legendary and it just sounds right.
I am French, and I find Lindy hilarious. You silly king, etc!
Only time I have ever watched a youtuber doing a craft who says "I've never done this before, let's see how we go"! Fantastic
@54:10 don't be to rough on yourself, its better then when i first tried it, its a basket, it functions, the details and niceness come with experience, its like learning to play music, first you need to get to a point that you understand the basics , mastering an instrument comes much later... well done.
Please keep us updated with your future semi-incompetent basketry endeavors
"Okay this is going reasonably well so far, and I have to say that it does feel pleasingly solid." 13:14
So glad you asked the fish if you could use their home before soaking. Very respectful!
If you are looking for something to do with that basket, you could use it as a key tray. For the things you always put in your pockets when you leave the house. I did that for my first leather project, because I couldn't think of anything else, and it rather useful actually.
Knew it was going to be entertaining at 5 minutes in and he was already sweating
His slight panic slowly descending into tiredness and "I-don't-care-anymore"-ness really sold this video to me. God bless Lloyd.
Very brave of Lloyd to document his incurable procrastinations that get in the way of finishing up his _In Search of Hannibal_ script for the artist to illustrate.
Maybe he's planning to include an apology hand-made basket full of sweets with every pledge... 🙄
Gnarly, rough and unkempt with a gap here and there. I told my wife Lindy doesn't care about his hair but she won't let up about it.
If she doesn't like Lindybeige are you sure she's really the right one?
Thank you for showing me that it no way whatsoever do I have the patience for basket weaving, but I certainly enjoyed watching your attempt at it!
I sometimes wail after I get upset. Maybe I am a basket case?
The basket community is there to help you to keep from killing yourself or others, while making a basket.
Next video Loyd shall make tooth picks by hand!
From a log, to have enough time to discuss things!
He already made toothpicks in this video. Lots and lots of them.
I'm glad the cameramen came back to their families safe and sound
A lesson in learning, what a breath of fresh air on a platform that tends to be more interested in looking wise and becoming popular than looking a fool and becoming wise. Namaste, pukka sahib.
I always find the greatest satisfaction is in making something myself, watching it fall apart when you look at it funny, and... wait, no, I hate that.
I plan to make a woven cedar bark hat in a native american style. My luck I will look like I am wearing a lampshade.
It could clearly be worse than that.
From what I've seen that would mean it was perfect
Try making a lampshade, and you should come out with a hat, whether it works or not.
The Native Americans (the people who founded the United States of America) never wore woven hats. You are thinking of the American Indians.
@@RabbiHerschel Same group.
I, an incompetent spinner, quite enjoyed our mutual struggles as I fought with a drop spindle for the first time while watching this video.
Thanks for the vid Lindy. I have added basket weaving to my list of things never to attempt along with Morris dancing , posting on Twitter and rock climbing. I had a friend many years ago who gave me the fascination for rock climbing. He lent me all of the books but he couldn't give me the courage. We lived in Hertfordshire (not an area noted for it's mountains). He was continually being hauled before the Magistrates and fined ten shillings for setting up his fixed rope systems on railway bridges.
Now you know how I felt when I started weaving my rattan shield.
My hunch is rattan shields were mainly used as a morale boosting weapon. As in "when the enemy destroys the shield you have put too many tears into making, you are fucking gonna kill that bloke!!!"
I wouldn't say that you are incompetent Lloyd. You're a lot more competent than I am.
That's cute 😊
The ability to learn makes me competent enough! :D
I can weave baskets, im just watching because I think its entertaining to see you fiddle around and find how calming to the nerves hand-craft is , to give you a first point; you have good quality willow rods , so you are starting of in a good way
Watching you fail again and again miserably for half an hour has got to be one of the most entertaining things ive watched in a while
Ah some Incompetent Basketry for some mid afternoon viewing, how niiice.
"If you want to learn how to make something, make it five times." - Jimmy DiResta
"It's called French if it's a bit fancy"...Lloyd's cameraman pans to pink spray bottle.
Lindy turns me into a proud englishman, even tho, I am austrian.