Of course she did it, who can blame her for the chop, chop.. Lizzy Borden picked up a axe, gave her mother forty whacks, and when her father saw what she had done, she gave him forty-one... And she was probably also a lesbian, and that she hated men from her fathers actions..
Theory #1: Why was LB so clean? Well she did not have to be naked, more likely she wore a sort of "ski mask", gloves, and a light dress that covered her whole body down to the feet. After the deed, she sheathed and attached the weapon to her leg and concealed the gloves and mask under her heavy skirts too. Then, she put her blue dress on top. They did not strip search ladies back then! It was the bloody underdress Alice caught LB burning some days later. LB had 2 of the exact same blue dresses, and so was able to hand the police the clean one for examination.
Don't know if Lizzie did it or not, but she loved animals, so we know she did have SOME decency, if she had been mean to animals instead however, probably guilty then
I would love to see one on Jack The Ripper, or other ‘unsolved’ cases throughout history! Makes me wonder how many would have been solved in present day vs going cold all these years.
I really like some of the slight changes youve done to the format. Less host closeups are better especially when viewed on a tv. I've heard the rhyme about Lizzy since i was a kid. Nice to learn some facts!
I don't quite remember how, but before my great grandmother died she explained the family tree back to lizzie Borden. She would be a far off cousin but I am actually related to her.
This woman keeps cropping up! This is weird! I was reading about Elizabeth Montgomery (from the 60s series 'Bewitched) just last week. She played LB after that series ended and after she died, somebody discovered that they were cousins!
Alright, so I'd love to give my take on how you guys are doing. In a word- amazing. This channel truly is one of my all time favorites and I feel like it's so well done and it seems like a lot of time, energy, and personal devotion goes into every episode. I think that if you keep up the pace you're currently at, you'll start to see a massive influx in new subscribers. I wanted a channel like this on RUclips for years, but I could never find one that seemed to be unbiased, carefully put together, and captivating. That said; if you saw my comment on your last video, I hope you saw that as constructive criticism from someone who holds you in very high regard. If I thought you guys were not doing well, I would not have even bothered. And I do like to think that you were able to see just that. This channel is getting it right. And as someone who just so happens to watch and almost unhealthy amount of Simon Whistler videos on a very regular basis, one thing I personally LOVE is the more serious attitude and presentation in these videos. I really enjoy the humor on all the other channels (ducks), but the straight faced presentation here, mixed with the occasional presence of hand gestures and the mostly serious tone really drives these stories home. It's incredibly professional and it's something a lot of people seem to appreciate. So please keep it up.
Lizzie Borden grabbed an axe, she gave her mother fourty whacks, when her father had seen, what she had done, she gave her father fourty one. I know on fact it was about 16-20 but it's an old nursery rhyme.
Im from taunton ma. My great grandmother went to school with lizzy. Its common knowledge she did it (shes innocent like o.j. is) the jury didn't find it right that her inheritance was taken from her not they couldn't imagine ...
It was the uncle. I say this for a few reasons. 1. The amount of power and strength it would take to hit someone repeatedly and Aggressively would have been too much for the average lady back then. 2. The uncle having nothing with him raises questions 3. It never said where he came from but it said he was coming to visit relatives. Back in the 1890's Horse was the most logical mode of transportation (or carriage) so going without Luggage is sketchy already. 4. The uneasy feeling about him says a lot. We all get that feeling at times. And its usually valid. Our Gut is normally not wrong.
Simon, there is one picture that I have to ask about. At 17:11 there is a house with a woman in time period clothes, but the home has a Dish on the front porch and an A/C Unit in one of the back windows. Was this an image of a reenactment or do people in Falls River walk around in these clothes for the tourist?
Today I saw footage of a fatal car crash were the body was so mangled it became more fascinating then disgusting. Somehow the drivers body was so folded up at first I thought it was the car seat.
There's no way she could've done it. I'm not saying this cuz she was a woman but it's impossible to get blood everywhere and her dress had no blood on her. She couldn't change clothes that quickly cause you couldn't change dress back then that quickly. Also only someone with experience can clean all of the blood up. John was a butcher who knows how to clean blood. He also had a motive to murder the stepmom and father. Also his alibi was hella sus. He also came to town and then the murder happened. I believe Lizzie borden hired john to kill the stepmom and father for inheritance
@@idkimjustdarkfudgelol6896 So why did she burn the dress? Also, she could probably have changed dresses and washed the blood off herself in 10-15 minutes.
@@JonathanBrief honey. Back then wasn't the 21st century. It took very long to take off dress also water is a thing. You can't be dry not that long after the murder cuz there was no blow dryer and towels back then wasn't it. Also people did burn things they didn't like. That why there is a town that is completely polluted cuz they use to burn their garbage. There's no way she could've commited the murder herself.
The Police pulled out all the stops to implicate her, so I can't see it, something solid would have appeared if she was even capable let alone meticulously plan cold murder and act out her open grief.
Oh, in a half a second! Lizzie GREATLY benefitted from the chivalrous view of women of the day. Essentially, despite all the evidence pointing at her, the judge and jury simply couldn't wrap their collective heads around the concept of a woman being so violent. Really, there were no other credible suspects; nobody took anything of value; the killer waited in the house for hours to get the father. (Would YOU casually wait for hours in a strange house, with your murder victim lying there?) LB was a petulant crybaby who killed her parents for not giving her a bigger allowance. She was part of the "snowflake generation," a century-plus ahead of her time. P.S. Oh, and Lizzie tried to BUY CYANIDE the day before! C'mon...this is a no-brainer!
As far as Lizzie not leaving Fall River, she told her friend Helen Leighton, that "when the truth about those murders comes out, I want to be living here, I want to see all my old friends, who had been cutting me."
The uncle's sudden appearance and an alibi that was so intricately detailed is very suspicious. Also, he and Andrew were at odds over business. Lizzie would have had to have someone to help her get in and out of the dresses. There was no running water in the house, so how would she have washed up and still have dry hair..This is truly a mystery.
*Every time you hear of a homicidal maniac, it’s always the same type of description, ‘so quiet, so nice, never caused a fuss’. Just once you’d think someone would say, ‘they were insane and I was just waiting for the chainsaw to come ripping through the wall...’. Can’t say I am surprised things ended up the way they did with the type of emotional issues she had and the way she was held a virtual prisoner socially. It all just ‘fits’.*
Lizzie remains an "ax-murdering suspect" much like OJ in the Brentwood knife murders. Lizzie was acquitted of the murders by a sympathetic all-male jury that took less than 90 minutes to come back with a verdict after a sensational trial that included the actual skulls of her deceased father and stepmother brought into the courtroom as evidence. On the sultry morning of August 4, 1892, Lizzie and the maid were the only ones there at 92 Second Street besides the victims, and Lizzie's inconsistent stories, odd demeanor in interrogation, and the wealth of circumstantial evidence point to her as the likely culprit. Although the tour guide on a recent visit to the Borden Bed and Breakfast in Fall River speculated that John Morse could have done the deeds for a payoff from Emma, Morse had an alibi for all but 45 minutes that morning and the murders were committed 90-120 minutes apart. It remains a fascinating mystery and all the parallels to the "OJ murders" and criminal trial are interesting as well - two "trials of the century" roughly a century apart.
Lizzie & Bridgette were the only other people KNOWN to have been present at time of the murderers. Obviously if they didn't do it there had to be someone else present whose identity remains unknown. Chief suspects in this school of thought include Lizzie's Uncle John and Mr.Borden's illegitimate son William. It's thought unlikely a stranger would be involved but target Mr.& Mrs.Borden while not harming Lizzie or Bridgette.
@alcoholically4280 as a real life axe murderer, maybe, afterall me got outta there ASAP, the Swiss are known for straight up killing someone who does such a thing! but ya, me just don't think you can assume that! unless the person in question proclaims they are that, you can never really know in fact even if they did such a thing, but genuinely don't feel they themselves did, then they really aren't ya know, if it's only objective but not subjective too, then it just didn't happen! it didn't happen from the most important point of view! it's simple physics.. there is always this posit in physics: if a tree falls in the forest but no one witnesses it did it happen? the answer is actually straightforward.. but what? if a tree is felled in the forest, but the tree faller didn't witness it happen, only the rest of the lumbering team? did it happen? perhaps it did happen, but you can never verify it.. it's impossible to verify.. sometimes trees come down on their own, in the west while that tree is still standing, for those knowing the forest well so who recognize the impending peril, it is often called as a 'widow maker'
Whenever I see "Lizzie Borden" I think of Elizabeth Montgomery. Naked. Washing the blood from her flawless skin... In hindsight, my mother should NOT have let eleven year old me watch that movie.
I was banned to my parents room to watch her little black & white t.v. while she watched that movie, on the big color t.v. she did however let me read, "A Private Disgrace" ny Victoria Lincoln, which is still the best book written about the case, and turned me into a Bordenphile!
@James my grandmother never tought me to view the world like that. is it better to separate us into races on every subject on every thought ? Haven't they done that to us enough? No? We'll do it to?
Lizzy was sexual abused by her dad That's why she killed him. Abusers isolate their family and kill or torture pets, her mood swings in school indicates when the abuse started. Which is why her sister stood by her when she was accused. It was rumored that she was a lesbian and had a relationship with the maid Bridget as well, who moved in with Lizzy. Here in MA we learn about her in school and it's pretty much common knowledge still. You can actually visit the house today and rent a room. It's a bed and breakfast now
I live a half mile from the murder house and a quarter mile from her grave. Every year the local newspaper runs the story from 1892 and hypothesizes on what really happened.
Call me crazy, but I say it was Emma. That whole, perfect alibi thing, is highly suspicious if you ask me. Fairhaven, where she was, was only fifteen miles away and she could very easily have traveled that distance, killed her parents, then slipped away back to Fairhaven to get the telegram. Her dress would've been covered in blood, but she would've had ample time to change, as opposed to Lizzie, who wouldn't have. Lizzie might've very well helped her cover it up, some have suspected that her father sexually assaulted Lizzie, as well as all of the other things he did to both her and her sister, so I'd say she'd have every reason to kill him, or help her sister cover it up. If nothing else though, there had to be more than one killer. One person couldn't have killed them both, and covered up, unless it was just a random passerby like originally suggested.
It's not impossible on horseback, but I'll grant you that it's highly unlikely. If Lizzie did do it she didn't do it alone. There was ten minutes between the time she allegedly killed her father and then alerted the maid. She wouldn't have had time to change her dress, hide it, clean the murder weapon, hide it, and then return to her father's body and scream, all in ten minutes. Emma wouldn't have had that problem, she could've taken her dress and the murder weapon with her. A competent horsewoman could've traveled that distance in a little over an hour. I'm not sure what the timeline is, but if it took them more than an hour to send the telegram its definitely possible that she could've done it.
I agree that her alibi is weak and she had as much motive as Lizzie but she also had 10 more years to do it, she was more resigned to her situation than Lizzie was. I have zero knowledge about horsemanship but I think a woman would have been noticed riding a horse for 30 miles (15 miles one way and back) back in that time period. The father seems very conservative and is unlikely to have encourage his daughters to train enough to do such a feat unnoticed. But although I do know about this case I have never done any research on it, everything I know points to Lizzie being the murderess but nothing I have seen or read seriously researched any other suspect. But with all the evidence pointing to Lizzie being circumstantial I think the verdict of not guilty was the correct one. This is one of a near infinity of historical events that make me want one form of time travel to be real, the chronovisor. I would like such a thing to be limited to about more than a hundred year into the past as one second into the past would let peoples see what anyone is doing almost in real time. That is not something I thought by myself but is part of the plot of a sci-fi story I read.
What I've read seems to indicate that Emma was far more resistant to her Father's tendencies. In other words, Lizzie was the more resigned of the two, so if either one of them were to do it, Id would probably be Emma, but I'll concede the point. One theory I've heard recently is that it might have been the Uncle that was staying with them. He had a business with the father that wasn't doing well, and his whereabouts are completely unaccounted for during the time of the murder.
Totally agree, I've been convinced that Emma did it since I first heard the whole story. This is a very popular tale in New England.( I was born and raised in Maine.)
Some of your sources/further reading are a bit sketchy. I only point this out because this is the third time I'm hearing this story and each time details in the story changes
There are a number of inaccuracies in this video. However all in all the report is balanced in that both good and bad points are made concerning Lizzie. This video is certainly NOT the place to learn facts about the case, IMO.
Self preservation?! Are you out of your mind? Her father wouldn’t give her the rich life she wanted . He had the means to put them up on the hill with the rich but didn’t. She killed to get what she wanted . She was a spoiled brat nothing more
@@___LC___ and that's the ONLY reason that's keeping me from believing she did it. But I still think she did it. She had too much to gain. Her and the Uncle maybe?🤔 But I'm sure he'd want a share if he helped. Who's to say he didn't?...🤨
I don't think she did it. It would take a lot of force to inflict that type of damage. I think the former brother-in-law did it. He could have had an argument with Andrew and doubled back to the house after getting the ax. Perhaps the (not so new at that point) wife saw him when he got back into the house, so he killed her. All the other people in the house he managed to avoid while waiting for Andrew. After killing him, he could easily have exited the house in all the excitement taking the ax with him.
John Morse' testimony was peculiar but it seems his time was accounted for. I don't believe Lizzie committed the murders. I believe a possible way a killer could have accessed the upstairs bedroom where Morse had slept the night before, where Mrs. Borden was attacked, was to simply knock on the outside door and claim Morse had asked him to collect a forgotten item from the bedroom. It did not take any special strength to commit the murders. The amount of blows to each victim suggests a killer inexperienced with that sort of killing. Morse, as well as Billy Borden who was put forth as a suspect in recent times, had experience with killing farm animals. I doubt either one of them would have used so many blows. I am a woman with probably average strength and I split wood both with maul or axe. When I was 6 or 7 years old, my parents and I lived on a tree farm and I had a hatchet I was taught to use to make kindling. A pine tree branch is surely much harder than a human head.
@@stephjovi Mrs. Borden was probably killed around 9:30 AM. Mr. Borden was killed about 1 hour and 45 minutes later, about 10:45. Yes, about two hours.
@@stephjovi Actually, for a simple crime it is a complicated case. I have been a member of a Lizzie Borden forum so have had the privilege of interacting with authors and researchers. The official theory, the one used in the court case and in the court of public opinion, is that Lizzie hated her stepmother and killed her over concerns about her father's estate. The popular theory is that both murders were spurred by greed. In reality, since Mr. Borden had no will, the oldest daughter, sister Emma, inherited the whole estate. Lizzie got nothing automatically. (This was also dependent upon Mrs. Borden predeceasing her husband and that is another reason why timing is so important. In truth, forensic science was so bad in the day, it is hard to say when Mrs. Borden was killed but it is reasonable to believe she was killed first and other evidence does support a time around 9:30 AM.) The reason it has been believed that Mrs. Borden was the "cause" of the murders is that she was struck with 19 blows of a weapon like a hatchet. Mr. Borden was struck 11 times. So, since Mrs. Borden's body seems to show "overkill", her assailant must have been enraged, etc. IMO, Mrs. Borden turned away from the killer, tried to move away though I do not think she could actually get away. Some have said it is believed she tried to crawl under the bed. I suppose if she made a fuss, a killer might be enraged. I do not believe Lizzie committed murder and because of something I recently learned from a private source, I believe she was innocent. Researchers always think she at least had to know something was happening because the house, for all its three stories and basement, is small, no more than 20 feet (6.09 meters) wide at the front. I believe it is possible, even probable that she was in the basement when the killer entered and that when Lizzie took her laundry upstairs, the killer became trapped in the guest bedroom, only able to exit when Lizzie was either outside as she claimed or bad down in the basement for some other reason. IMO.
I grew up down the street from that house, and it has always fascinated me. There was an aspect to it not mentioned that was discussed at the tour I took - Lizzie and Andrew Borden were English Protestants. The police force and mayor were Irish Catholics. The jury was made up of 11 of 12 English Protestant men who couldn't imagine their daughters being able to commit a murder like this.
There is absolutely no doubt she did it, she simply got away with murder. We know a lot more about psychology today and a brilliant documentary i watched a few months ago pretty much laid out she fits some type of personality disorder ( like bipolar for example). Her sister moved out far away and never spoke to her again not only that she hated anybody speaking of Lizzy the fact they grew up so close tells me for something like that to happen between the two sisters it must have been worse than an argument over lifestyle choices or Lizzy's possible homosexuality.
Of all the documentaries and unsolved mysteries it was never in detail like this. So many things I thought I knew... Thank you Simon and team for another great video and appreciate the respectful way you managed this video. Keep up the great work you all do!
That was the most elaborate look into lizzie borden's life I have ever had the pleasure to see. I have been interested to know her story for a very long time. Thank you!
+drewpamon : You ever dress up in period dress? She easily could have changed without help. In fact, most wardrobes by those in the Lower and middle class were easy to get in and out of (because they wouldn’t have help). Only the upper crust level of society would have required a maidservant to help them dress. You can get in and out of clothes from that period quite easy - trust me on this. 😉
I used to think that too, but Sister Spooky is exactly right. "Mother Hubbards" were kind of the 19th century version of a caftan, just big roomy draped cheap dresses to cook and clean in. Only Keira Knightley gets to wear the elaborate ten layer costumes in every film she makes... That said, I have often wondered whether she did kill them. Money is so often the catalyst for murder...
Does the dress still exist can it tested with modern methods? Also there was a women that lived in Hamilton Ontario in the 1920s that chopped up several of her man friends and left the parts all over town.make a good story check Hamilton spectator archives .
No, the dress was apparently completely burned in the kitchen stove. There is little if anything from the case that could be forensically tested at this late date. The hatchet head with a fraction of a wooden handle still attached, which was used at trial to simulate the actual weapon, has been tested forensically and there is NO blood of any kind deep in the grooves or soaked into the wood. It was said at the time of the testing that there is no way a superficial scrubbing could have successfully removed all blood stains so that none were detected with modern techniques. Additionally, scientists who examined Mrs. Borden's skull claimed they found a sliver of gilt against the bone. They theorized that this indicated a new hatchet was used to Kill Mrs. Borden since brand new hatchets had gilt--gold paint-- applied to the blade
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No running water in the house? Forget not finding any blood-stained clothing, the sheer violence of the attacks should have left the murderer's skin and especially hair drenched in blood. To wash (and dry) her hair in the time frame mentioned should have been impossible. What am I missing, that no one mentions that?
I think its pretty obvious Lizzy murdered her family members and got away with it. She isnt the first and wont be the last 🤷🏼♀️ RIP To The True Victims 🥀🪓
After years of doing so much research about this case, I don't think that she had anything to do with the murders of her family. With all the lack of blood on her, timeframe, & the amount of physical strength (she was a small woman, wore strict clothing, & wasn't used to hard labor), which was needed for the killings, I believe that there was no way that she could have pulled all of that off. Plus, which most people don't know, is that she was heavily sedated shortly after the murders, all throughout her inquisition, imprisonment, & for some of the trial. The drugs back then, were some very hardcore shit...not the weaker stuff that is given out nowadays...& she was getting injections, around the clock (that stuff really messed up your mind, caused hallucinations, & changes of memory)...very highly addictive, & dangerous! For someone who Is a "Daddy's Girl", the horrific nature of her father's death...There's no way that I could even imagine destroying that bond with such violence (no matter what!), that I wouldn't be able to ever see him again (even to say goodbye). There's no way, love was ever a part of that murder. If she truly wanted him dead, there were many other quick, easy, & much cleaner ways (back then), for her to have killed them, without being caught! There has never been any evidence found of her guilt, after all of these years (only; that there is much more information, showing us, that she is actually most likely innocent, after all). The real problem; is that they never did really try to find any other possible suspects, once they questioned her (under heavy sedation), who could have been the murderers. They quickly became only focused on her. If they had not become so tunneled vision, they might have had the chance to find evidence, that might have been lost, by the lack of looking. Just my thoughts, & opinions... 🌺✌️
No one was convicted of the crime, ergo it is, and always will be, "unsolved". Everyone thinks Lizzie did it, but the likelihood is that if she didn't, being convicted in the court of public opinion probably stopped authorities from looking for any other suspect once they set their sights on Lizzie.
Heather Morgan she did it! Come on use your head she was there in the house . They found the weapon on the property killing the theory someone took the weapon with them . She had clear motive she wanted the rich life and got it after she murdered her parents. And the dress burning no one with half a brain could truly believe she was burning it cuz it was dirty with paint. It’s all nonsense. As for having the physical ability to do it how hard can it be if you sneak up on your step mother who isn’t a body builder and the father who had his eyes closed on a couch? 4 people were in that house 2 ended up dead and 1 had motive. You do the math
Her dad was a total d*ck to his kids yet treated his new wife and sister-in-law so much better. To give his daughters the deed to their grandfather's house knowing they were unmarried and couldn't legally own it is bloody underhanded. I mean if she did it, (never made up my mind if she had or hadn't), I honestly can't be mad at her.
Ive been fascinated by Miss Borden ever since seeing the TV movie with Elizabeth Montgomery in the 70s. Also, have you ever considered the similarities between her case and OJ Simspn? Exact same type of murders, famous trial and 100 years apart.
MR BORDEN WAS WAY TOO CHEAP TO PAY FOR WEDDINGS HE BOUGHT LIZZIES CLASS RING WHEN SHE GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL ,HE REMINDED HER DAILY ABOUT THIS FACT. SHE TOOK IT OFF AND THREW AT HER FATHER SO HE PUT IT ON HIS FINGER AND KEPT WEARING IT TOO PUNISH LIZZIE
Did anyone check if she paid the doctor to give her morphine? Think about it, it kept her dazed and gave her a reason on why she couldn’t keep her story straight and in the long run help her.
“This is still an unsolved mystery”
Proceeds to title the video “Lizzie Borden: A Real Life Axe Murderer”
Ikr
i remember watching some documentary about solving the mystery like 5-10 years ago. it says that she did
Of course she did it, who can blame her for the chop, chop.. Lizzy Borden picked up a axe, gave her mother forty whacks, and when her father saw what she had done, she gave him forty-one... And she was probably also a lesbian, and that she hated men from her fathers actions..
Damn, just pressed send on the comment, and then he said that rime...
@@DreadPirarateAndersen It was not an ax. It was a hachet. Read a book on her.
Theory #1: Why was LB so clean? Well she did not have to be naked, more likely she wore a sort of "ski mask", gloves, and a light dress that covered her whole body down to the feet. After the deed, she sheathed and attached the weapon to her leg and concealed the gloves and mask under her heavy skirts too. Then, she put her blue dress on top. They did not strip search ladies back then! It was the bloody underdress Alice caught LB burning some days later. LB had 2 of the exact same blue dresses, and so was able to hand the police the clean one for examination.
Don't know if Lizzie did it or not, but she loved animals, so we know she did have SOME decency, if she had been mean to animals instead however, probably guilty then
I'ma sub to all your channels. Keep up the good work folks!
I would love to see one on Jack The Ripper, or other ‘unsolved’ cases throughout history! Makes me wonder how many would have been solved in present day vs going cold all these years.
I'd like to see a real ambiguous video like the Dyatlov Pass incident.
These are so so good! I settle in to watch one and 5 later I'm still queuing them up!
Electricity was not at all common in the 1890s as you imply. The gaslight was standard then but Mr. Borden was using lamps that burned whale oil.
i grew up in fall river and visited the house couple times, i definitely fell bad spirits in there.
Wow! This video was well done, as usual! It had me gripped the whole time!
You should do any or all of the Borgias!
I really like some of the slight changes youve done to the format. Less host closeups are better especially when viewed on a tv. I've heard the rhyme about Lizzy since i was a kid. Nice to learn some facts!
Well, this was far more informational than Buzzfeed’s only quality show
Very well presented.
And she swore she would spend her life trying to find the killer or killers.
I don't quite remember how, but before my great grandmother died she explained the family tree back to lizzie Borden. She would be a far off cousin but I am actually related to her.
USS Massachusetts
Lizzie Borden or Willis Carrier/ I'm happy there's a new Biographics👍
This woman keeps cropping up! This is weird! I was reading about Elizabeth Montgomery (from the 60s series 'Bewitched) just last week. She played LB after that series ended and after she died, somebody discovered that they were cousins!
Alright, so I'd love to give my take on how you guys are doing.
In a word- amazing. This channel truly is one of my all time favorites and I feel like it's so well done and it seems like a lot of time, energy, and personal devotion goes into every episode. I think that if you keep up the pace you're currently at, you'll start to see a massive influx in new subscribers. I wanted a channel like this on RUclips for years, but I could never find one that seemed to be unbiased, carefully put together, and captivating.
That said; if you saw my comment on your last video, I hope you saw that as constructive criticism from someone who holds you in very high regard. If I thought you guys were not doing well, I would not have even bothered. And I do like to think that you were able to see just that.
This channel is getting it right. And as someone who just so happens to watch and almost unhealthy amount of Simon Whistler videos on a very regular basis, one thing I personally LOVE is the more serious attitude and presentation in these videos. I really enjoy the humor on all the other channels (ducks), but the straight faced presentation here, mixed with the occasional presence of hand gestures and the mostly serious tone really drives these stories home. It's incredibly professional and it's something a lot of people seem to appreciate. So please keep it up.
Lizzie Borden. The real battle axe.
Lizzie Borden grabbed an axe, she gave her mother fourty whacks, when her father had seen, what she had done, she gave her father fourty one.
I know on fact it was about 16-20 but it's an old nursery rhyme.
From mass here and as a kid (90s) we still used that song Jumping rope all the time, every jump was a wack. Thinking about it now kinda crazy.
Please do a video about Marsha P. Johnson and the Stonewall Riots.
This whole story can be broken down into: Modern society desperately tries to hold a man responsible for the actions of a murderess.
The Kingston trio made a song after her too. Funny song
The father was to cheap to pay a dowry...
Great story.
Beautiful voice.
Im from taunton ma. My great grandmother went to school with lizzy. Its common knowledge she did it (shes innocent like o.j. is) the jury didn't find it right that her inheritance was taken from her not they couldn't imagine ...
It was the uncle. I say this for a few reasons.
1. The amount of power and strength it would take to hit someone repeatedly and Aggressively would have been too much for the average lady back then.
2. The uncle having nothing with him raises questions
3. It never said where he came from but it said he was coming to visit relatives. Back in the 1890's Horse was the most logical mode of transportation (or carriage) so going without Luggage is sketchy already.
4. The uneasy feeling about him says a lot. We all get that feeling at times. And its usually valid. Our Gut is normally not wrong.
Eli Bence refused to sell Lizzie the prussic acid, not because he thought she had "terrible intentions" but she simply had no prescription.
Forty whacks with a wet noodle, Bart!
Do Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, The Iron Horse all the greats!
Do one about Mustafa Kemal Ataturk or Mehmet the Conqueror lad
Honest M'aiq The Erdoturks are going ro love it 😂👍
How about you ask politely and stop demanding it.
Do one on Czar Nicholas II...
This mystery is remains... unsolved! 😂
Can you do an episode on Harry Houdini please
Simon, there is one picture that I have to ask about. At 17:11 there is a house with a woman in time period clothes, but the home has a Dish on the front porch and an A/C Unit in one of the back windows. Was this an image of a reenactment or do people in Falls River walk around in these clothes for the tourist?
BTW Love your videos.
can't say I am really sorry for the parents, especially the father but I think that it was indeed Lizzie
Do lucian Freud, the dude's life is interesting and he was a remarkable painter
For some reason I’m glad she had success
Interesting! Thanks for this! Not a fan of your red transition titles, but you do you!
Do a video on the Cardiff Giant. Cardiff Ny
MY GUY do you even sleep or are you just a computer simulation designed for the sole purpose of interesting video production!
Also er FIRST!!!
He has a team that helps him with the videos..
@@tengkualiff yeah I understand it wasn't really serious tbh I guess it's pretty difficult to tell over the internet
I wonder that too. I mean 4 channels and a podcast‽ When does he rest?
Wouldn't it be weird to date him? He's cute though.
Your voice is soothing even when you're talking about disgustingly horrific things
Too many pauses in this particular one, imo. Kinda jarring. Delivery in most of his other videos are better :)
you'd have a ball listening to him describe nanking
It's nails on a chalkboard to me . I wish Vader would force choke him in the middle of a sentence
Today I saw footage of a fatal car crash were the body was so mangled it became more fascinating then disgusting. Somehow the drivers body was so folded up at first I thought it was the car seat.
They never looked into the uncle? It wasn't weird at al he suddenly shows up and leaves and isn't mentioned again ever???
They did, but they didnt have any evidence to prove he was involved. Theres more evidence towards Lizzie being the killer
Yes they did he was ruled out
There's no way she could've done it. I'm not saying this cuz she was a woman but it's impossible to get blood everywhere and her dress had no blood on her. She couldn't change clothes that quickly cause you couldn't change dress back then that quickly. Also only someone with experience can clean all of the blood up. John was a butcher who knows how to clean blood. He also had a motive to murder the stepmom and father. Also his alibi was hella sus. He also came to town and then the murder happened. I believe Lizzie borden hired john to kill the stepmom and father for inheritance
@@idkimjustdarkfudgelol6896 So why did she burn the dress? Also, she could probably have changed dresses and washed the blood off herself in 10-15 minutes.
@@JonathanBrief honey. Back then wasn't the 21st century. It took very long to take off dress also water is a thing. You can't be dry not that long after the murder cuz there was no blow dryer and towels back then wasn't it. Also people did burn things they didn't like. That why there is a town that is completely polluted cuz they use to burn their garbage. There's no way she could've commited the murder herself.
I'd like to see Disney try to make this story kid-friendly.
Liz Borden: The Musical!!
Right up there with the Bobbitts
@@oxcart4172 There is already a Lizzie musical and a ballet. I think there is also an opera on the subject but might be wrong on that.
They’ve done it with a lot of there stories. Some of the originals are beyond disturbing before Walt has his way with them
It was a smart guy episode
Makes me wonder if they would have found her guilty with today’s forensics.
SCSilk criminal case fan? :p
It's possible but not necessarily likely
The Police pulled out all the stops to implicate her, so I can't see it, something solid would have appeared if she was even capable let alone meticulously plan cold murder and act out her open grief.
Strike that she wouldn't be
Oh, in a half a second!
Lizzie GREATLY benefitted from the chivalrous view of women of the day. Essentially, despite all the evidence pointing at her, the judge and jury simply couldn't wrap their collective heads around the concept of a woman being so violent.
Really, there were no other credible suspects; nobody took anything of value; the killer waited in the house for hours to get the father. (Would YOU casually wait for hours in a strange house, with your murder victim lying there?)
LB was a petulant crybaby who killed her parents for not giving her a bigger allowance. She was part of the "snowflake generation," a century-plus ahead of her time.
P.S. Oh, and Lizzie tried to BUY CYANIDE the day before! C'mon...this is a no-brainer!
As far as Lizzie not leaving Fall River, she told her friend Helen Leighton, that "when the truth about those murders comes out, I want to be living here, I want to see all my old friends, who had been cutting me."
The uncle's sudden appearance and an alibi that was so intricately detailed is very suspicious. Also, he and Andrew were at odds over business. Lizzie would have had to have someone to help her get in and out of the dresses. There was no running water in the house, so how would she have washed up and still have dry hair..This is truly a mystery.
They used basins to wash all the time. Not impossible.
*Every time you hear of a homicidal maniac, it’s always the same type of description, ‘so quiet, so nice, never caused a fuss’. Just once you’d think someone would say, ‘they were insane and I was just waiting for the chainsaw to come ripping through the wall...’. Can’t say I am surprised things ended up the way they did with the type of emotional issues she had and the way she was held a virtual prisoner socially. It all just ‘fits’.*
Sister Spooky lol that's why ppl have been saying, "Watch out for those quiet ones." It is true.
There's a funny George Carlin bit on that. Wish I could remember his exact words
Got that from Wings😊 it was a great show
Fellow students thought Nikolas Cruz was gonna snap and kill people.
Her parents shouldn't have abused her
Lizzie remains an "ax-murdering suspect" much like OJ in the Brentwood knife murders. Lizzie was acquitted of the murders by a sympathetic all-male jury that took less than 90 minutes to come back with a verdict after a sensational trial that included the actual skulls of her deceased father and stepmother brought into the courtroom as evidence. On the sultry morning of August 4, 1892, Lizzie and the maid were the only ones there at 92 Second Street besides the victims, and Lizzie's inconsistent stories, odd demeanor in interrogation, and the wealth of circumstantial evidence point to her as the likely culprit. Although the tour guide on a recent visit to the Borden Bed and Breakfast in Fall River speculated that John Morse could have done the deeds for a payoff from Emma, Morse had an alibi for all but 45 minutes that morning and the murders were committed 90-120 minutes apart. It remains a fascinating mystery and all the parallels to the "OJ murders" and criminal trial are interesting as well - two "trials of the century" roughly a century apart.
Lizzie & Bridgette were the only other people KNOWN to have been present at time of the murderers. Obviously if they didn't do it there had to be someone else present whose identity remains unknown. Chief suspects in this school of thought include Lizzie's Uncle John and Mr.Borden's illegitimate son William. It's thought unlikely a stranger would be involved but target Mr.& Mrs.Borden while not harming Lizzie or Bridgette.
Yeah but the thing is both of them did it. OJ did it and Lizzie def did it as well lol
@alcoholically4280 as a real life axe murderer, maybe, afterall me got outta there ASAP, the Swiss are known for straight up killing someone who does such a thing!
but ya, me just don't think you can assume that! unless the person in question proclaims they are that, you can never really know
in fact even if they did such a thing, but genuinely don't feel they themselves did, then they really aren't ya know, if it's only objective but not subjective too, then it just didn't happen! it didn't happen from the most important point of view! it's simple physics..
there is always this posit in physics: if a tree falls in the forest but no one witnesses it did it happen? the answer is actually straightforward.. but what? if a tree is felled in the forest, but the tree faller didn't witness it happen, only the rest of the lumbering team? did it happen? perhaps it did happen, but you can never verify it.. it's impossible to verify..
sometimes trees come down on their own, in the west while that tree is still standing, for those knowing the forest well so who recognize the impending peril, it is often called as a 'widow maker'
Lizzie is a legend in Massachusetts- not a good legend, but a legend just the same.
i grew up in connecticut , we knew bout lizzie 🤣
Otto von Bismarck next please. Also Shaka Zulu, Peter the Great, Oliver Cromwell, Kauli Khan
Whenever I see "Lizzie Borden" I think of Elizabeth Montgomery. Naked. Washing the blood from her flawless skin... In hindsight, my mother should NOT have let eleven year old me watch that movie.
She was stunning!
I loved that movie. I was in high school...
Well, garcemac, there is one theory that she may have killed her parents naked, hence the lack of blood stained clothing in the house.
I was banned to my parents room to watch her little black & white t.v. while she watched that movie, on the big color t.v. she did however let me read, "A Private Disgrace" ny Victoria Lincoln, which is still the best book written about the case, and turned me into a Bordenphile!
NOT well known fact: Elizabeth Montgomery and Lizbeth (as she became known after the murders) were cousins. **my husband is from Fall River
Even though upper middle class white women were not allowed to hold a job. Black women and poor white women worked and worked hard
Good point that adds nothing to this story. Also chinese women bound there feet .
@James my grandmother never tought me to view the world like that. is it better to separate us into races on every subject on every thought ? Haven't they done that to us enough? No? We'll do it to?
Very cool, thanks for sharing
I love your shows, they are informative, impartial, and have subjects that are obscure yet very interesting. Thank you
Obscure? Lizzie Borden became so infamous there's even an old nursery rhyme about her.
Lizzy was sexual abused by her dad That's why she killed him. Abusers isolate their family and kill or torture pets, her mood swings in school indicates when the abuse started. Which is why her sister stood by her when she was accused. It was rumored that she was a lesbian and had a relationship with the maid Bridget as well, who moved in with Lizzy.
Here in MA we learn about her in school and it's pretty much common knowledge still. You can actually visit the house today and rent a room. It's a bed and breakfast now
Quarantined Cosmonaut MA born, I agree with you.
Rent a room there? Never
Steven Trosiek why not? Sounds fun!
@@spirit12317 too eerie for me
I live a half mile from the murder house and a quarter mile from her grave. Every year the local newspaper runs the story from 1892 and hypothesizes on what really happened.
0:55 - Chapter 1 - The borden legacy & lizzie childhood
3:20 - Chapter 2 - Adulthood
7:40 - Chapter 3 - The day of the murders
12:00 - Chapter 4 - The inquest & trial
14:40 - Chapter 5 - Lizzie borden goes free
When I was a kid I sang the rather macabre rhyme but I HAD NO IDEA it was based on a real life person until I was an adult O.O
Lizzie Borden took an axe,And gave her mother forty whacks;When she saw what she had done,She gave her father forty-one.
Lizzy Borden, the original all-time hacker!⛏
Too soon.
Useraccount85 it’s been over 100 years 💀😂
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End your own suffering, you’re clearly in pain.
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Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} face palm, grin
Call me crazy, but I say it was Emma. That whole, perfect alibi thing, is highly suspicious if you ask me. Fairhaven, where she was, was only fifteen miles away and she could very easily have traveled that distance, killed her parents, then slipped away back to Fairhaven to get the telegram. Her dress would've been covered in blood, but she would've had ample time to change, as opposed to Lizzie, who wouldn't have. Lizzie might've very well helped her cover it up, some have suspected that her father sexually assaulted Lizzie, as well as all of the other things he did to both her and her sister, so I'd say she'd have every reason to kill him, or help her sister cover it up. If nothing else though, there had to be more than one killer. One person couldn't have killed them both, and covered up, unless it was just a random passerby like originally suggested.
On foot? In a dress? In the summer heat?
Even if she'd been on a horse, it's highly unlikely.
It's not impossible on horseback, but I'll grant you that it's highly unlikely. If Lizzie did do it she didn't do it alone. There was ten minutes between the time she allegedly killed her father and then alerted the maid. She wouldn't have had time to change her dress, hide it, clean the murder weapon, hide it, and then return to her father's body and scream, all in ten minutes. Emma wouldn't have had that problem, she could've taken her dress and the murder weapon with her. A competent horsewoman could've traveled that distance in a little over an hour. I'm not sure what the timeline is, but if it took them more than an hour to send the telegram its definitely possible that she could've done it.
I agree that her alibi is weak and she had as much motive as Lizzie but she also had 10 more years to do it, she was more resigned to her situation than Lizzie was. I have zero knowledge about horsemanship but I think a woman would have been noticed riding a horse for 30 miles (15 miles one way and back) back in that time period. The father seems very conservative and is unlikely to have encourage his daughters to train enough to do such a feat unnoticed.
But although I do know about this case I have never done any research on it, everything I know points to Lizzie being the murderess but nothing I have seen or read seriously researched any other suspect. But with all the evidence pointing to Lizzie being circumstantial I think the verdict of not guilty was the correct one.
This is one of a near infinity of historical events that make me want one form of time travel to be real, the chronovisor. I would like such a thing to be limited to about more than a hundred year into the past as one second into the past would let peoples see what anyone is doing almost in real time. That is not something I thought by myself but is part of the plot of a sci-fi story I read.
What I've read seems to indicate that Emma was far more resistant to her Father's tendencies. In other words, Lizzie was the more resigned of the two, so if either one of them were to do it, Id would probably be Emma, but I'll concede the point. One theory I've heard recently is that it might have been the Uncle that was staying with them. He had a business with the father that wasn't doing well, and his whereabouts are completely unaccounted for during the time of the murder.
Totally agree, I've been convinced that Emma did it since I first heard the whole story. This is a very popular tale in New England.( I was born and raised in Maine.)
Honestly this video (minus her father killing her birds with a hatchet) makes me think she DIDNT do it!!!
Some of your sources/further reading are a bit sketchy. I only point this out because this is the third time I'm hearing this story and each time details in the story changes
There are a number of inaccuracies in this video. However all in all the report is balanced in that both good and bad points are made concerning Lizzie. This video is certainly NOT the place to learn facts about the case, IMO.
Excellent! In the spirit of halloween, could you do one on Vincent Price or Boris Karloff next?
Have you ever done Marquis de Sade? You should do “The Marquis de Sade: A Lecherous Life.”
The whole area is now called Borden Place. I lived in her neighborhood for 2years. It' the worst part of town.
If she did indeed murder her parents, it was an act of self preservation on her part. I feel a little more sympathetic to her plight.
Not really, she still murdered two people. Not much justification for it.
Self preservation?! Are you out of your mind? Her father wouldn’t give her the rich life she wanted . He had the means to put them up on the hill with the rich but didn’t. She killed to get what she wanted . She was a spoiled brat nothing more
Knowing her dress was clean and how difficult it was to dress for a woman at that time and rank, i don’t think she did it.
@@___LC___ and that's the ONLY reason that's keeping me from believing she did it. But I still think she did it. She had too much to gain. Her and the Uncle maybe?🤔 But I'm sure he'd want a share if he helped. Who's to say he didn't?...🤨
@@MacabreQt888 people believe she pay the Uncle to killed them
Could you cover Dwight D Einesinhower?
The last republican, worth a damn.
I don't think she did it. It would take a lot of force to inflict that type of damage. I think the former brother-in-law did it. He could have had an argument with Andrew and doubled back to the house after getting the ax. Perhaps the (not so new at that point) wife saw him when he got back into the house, so he killed her. All the other people in the house he managed to avoid while waiting for Andrew. After killing him, he could easily have exited the house in all the excitement taking the ax with him.
John Morse' testimony was peculiar but it seems his time was accounted for. I don't believe Lizzie committed the murders. I believe a possible way a killer could have accessed the upstairs bedroom where Morse had slept the night before, where Mrs. Borden was attacked, was to simply knock on the outside door and claim Morse had asked him to collect a forgotten item from the bedroom.
It did not take any special strength to commit the murders. The amount of blows to each victim suggests a killer inexperienced with that sort of killing. Morse, as well as Billy Borden who was put forth as a suspect in recent times, had experience with killing farm animals. I doubt either one of them would have used so many blows. I am a woman with probably average strength and I split wood both with maul or axe. When I was 6 or 7 years old, my parents and I lived on a tree farm and I had a hatchet I was taught to use to make kindling. A pine tree branch is surely much harder than a human head.
Wasn't the wife killed 2 hours before him?
@@stephjovi Mrs. Borden was probably killed around 9:30 AM. Mr. Borden was killed about 1 hour and 45 minutes later, about 10:45. Yes, about two hours.
@@annalisette5897 ah I heard right thanks. Than obviously the Theorie that he was the target and she caught the killer is invalid.
@@stephjovi Actually, for a simple crime it is a complicated case. I have been a member of a Lizzie Borden forum so have had the privilege of interacting with authors and researchers.
The official theory, the one used in the court case and in the court of public opinion, is that Lizzie hated her stepmother and killed her over concerns about her father's estate. The popular theory is that both murders were spurred by greed.
In reality, since Mr. Borden had no will, the oldest daughter, sister Emma, inherited the whole estate. Lizzie got nothing automatically. (This was also dependent upon Mrs. Borden predeceasing her husband and that is another reason why timing is so important. In truth, forensic science was so bad in the day, it is hard to say when Mrs. Borden was killed but it is reasonable to believe she was killed first and other evidence does support a time around 9:30 AM.)
The reason it has been believed that Mrs. Borden was the "cause" of the murders is that she was struck with 19 blows of a weapon like a hatchet. Mr. Borden was struck 11 times. So, since Mrs. Borden's body seems to show "overkill", her assailant must have been enraged, etc. IMO, Mrs. Borden turned away from the killer, tried to move away though I do not think she could actually get away. Some have said it is believed she tried to crawl under the bed. I suppose if she made a fuss, a killer might be enraged.
I do not believe Lizzie committed murder and because of something I recently learned from a private source, I believe she was innocent. Researchers always think she at least had to know something was happening because the house, for all its three stories and basement, is small, no more than 20 feet (6.09 meters) wide at the front. I believe it is possible, even probable that she was in the basement when the killer entered and that when Lizzie took her laundry upstairs, the killer became trapped in the guest bedroom, only able to exit when Lizzie was either outside as she claimed or bad down in the basement for some other reason. IMO.
Do one on Hannibal and Marcus Aurelius. Please....with cherry on top.
Do Benjamin Franklin plz
Bro do one on Alexander the great
With yo narcissistic ass 🤣🤣
I wonder if the barn was searched for evidence,she may have went out to the barn to bury evidence.
If the law said unmarried women cant live alone, why were the girls not allowed to live together?
That's what I wondered.
I grew up down the street from that house, and it has always fascinated me. There was an aspect to it not mentioned that was discussed at the tour I took - Lizzie and Andrew Borden were English Protestants. The police force and mayor were Irish Catholics. The jury was made up of 11 of 12 English Protestant men who couldn't imagine their daughters being able to commit a murder like this.
There is absolutely no doubt she did it, she simply got away with murder. We know a lot more about psychology today and a brilliant documentary i watched a few months ago pretty much laid out she fits some type of personality disorder ( like bipolar for example). Her sister moved out far away and never spoke to her again not only that she hated anybody speaking of Lizzy the fact they grew up so close tells me for something like that to happen between the two sisters it must have been worse than an argument over lifestyle choices or Lizzy's possible homosexuality.
Lizzy should have written a book called "If I did it."
Of all the documentaries and unsolved mysteries it was never in detail like this. So many things I thought I knew... Thank you Simon and team for another great video and appreciate the respectful way you managed this video. Keep up the great work you all do!
Good of you to give credit where credit"s due. This team is more than the sum of its separate parts.
Rest In Peace to those that passed away.
That was the most elaborate look into lizzie borden's life I have ever had the pleasure to see. I have been interested to know her story for a very long time. Thank you!
I don't think she could have done it. Changing her dress was a very elaborate process at the time and would have needed help
+drewpamon : You ever dress up in period dress?
She easily could have changed without help. In fact, most wardrobes by those in the Lower and middle class were easy to get in and out of (because they wouldn’t have help). Only the upper crust level of society would have required a maidservant to help them dress.
You can get in and out of clothes from that period quite easy - trust me on this. 😉
I used to think that too, but Sister Spooky is exactly right. "Mother Hubbards" were kind of the 19th century version of a caftan, just big roomy draped cheap dresses to cook and clean in. Only Keira Knightley gets to wear the elaborate ten layer costumes in every film she makes...
That said, I have often wondered whether she did kill them.
Money is so often the catalyst for murder...
She was naked.
@@Samm815
Very good, grasshopper!
@@sisterspooky except she was the upper crust not middle or lower class
Does the dress still exist can it tested with modern methods?
Also there was a women that lived in Hamilton Ontario in the 1920s that chopped up several of her man friends and left the parts all over town.make a good story check Hamilton spectator archives .
No, the dress was apparently completely burned in the kitchen stove. There is little if anything from the case that could be forensically tested at this late date. The hatchet head with a fraction of a wooden handle still attached, which was used at trial to simulate the actual weapon, has been tested forensically and there is NO blood of any kind deep in the grooves or soaked into the wood. It was said at the time of the testing that there is no way a superficial scrubbing could have successfully removed all blood stains so that none were detected with modern techniques.
Additionally, scientists who examined Mrs. Borden's skull claimed they found a sliver of gilt against the bone. They theorized that this indicated a new hatchet was used to Kill Mrs. Borden since brand new hatchets had gilt--gold paint-- applied to the blade
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She actually seemed like a genuinely kind human.
No running water in the house? Forget not finding any blood-stained clothing, the sheer violence of the attacks should have left the murderer's skin and especially hair drenched in blood. To wash (and dry) her hair in the time frame mentioned should have been impossible. What am I missing, that no one mentions that?
I don't think Lizzie Borden was evil. She strikes me as someone who regretted her violent crimes for the rest of her life.
I love this channel! A Biographic about Ned Kelly would be amazing!
I think its pretty obvious Lizzy murdered her family members and got away with it. She isnt the first and wont be the last 🤷🏼♀️ RIP To The True Victims 🥀🪓
Everytime I hear lizzie Borden I always jump to that simpsons scene with Martin Prince "40 whacks with a wet noodle bart"
After years of doing so much research about this case, I don't think that she had anything to do with the murders of her family. With all the lack of blood on her, timeframe, & the amount of physical strength (she was a small woman, wore strict clothing, & wasn't used to hard labor), which was needed for the killings, I believe that there was no way that she could have pulled all of that off. Plus, which most people don't know, is that she was heavily sedated shortly after the murders, all throughout her inquisition, imprisonment, & for some of the trial. The drugs back then, were some very hardcore shit...not the weaker stuff that is given out nowadays...& she was getting injections, around the clock (that stuff really messed up your mind, caused hallucinations, & changes of memory)...very highly addictive, & dangerous!
For someone who Is a "Daddy's Girl", the horrific nature of her father's death...There's no way that I could even imagine destroying that bond with such violence (no matter what!), that I wouldn't be able to ever see him again (even to say goodbye).
There's no way, love was ever a part of that murder. If she truly wanted him dead, there were many other quick, easy, & much cleaner ways (back then), for her to have killed them, without being caught!
There has never been any evidence found of her guilt, after all of these years (only; that there is much more information, showing us, that she is actually most likely innocent, after all).
The real problem; is that they never did really try to find any other possible suspects, once they questioned her (under heavy sedation), who could have been the murderers. They quickly became only focused on her. If they had not become so tunneled vision, they might have had the chance to find evidence, that might have been lost, by the lack of looking.
Just my thoughts, & opinions...
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I live 1/2 hour from fall river nobody considers the case unsolved
No one was convicted of the crime, ergo it is, and always will be, "unsolved". Everyone thinks Lizzie did it, but the likelihood is that if she didn't, being convicted in the court of public opinion probably stopped authorities from looking for any other suspect once they set their sights on Lizzie.
My husband is from FR and until recently we resided there. The Cemetery where she's buried is creepy af BUT totally worth the scare
Heather Morgan she did it! Come on use your head she was there in the house . They found the weapon on the property killing the theory someone took the weapon with them . She had clear motive she wanted the rich life and got it after she murdered her parents. And the dress burning no one with half a brain could truly believe she was burning it cuz it was dirty with paint. It’s all nonsense. As for having the physical ability to do it how hard can it be if you sneak up on your step mother who isn’t a body builder and the father who had his eyes closed on a couch? 4 people were in that house 2 ended up dead and 1 had motive. You do the math
That's not a mansion. Newport Rhode island, that's mansion country. Just a pretty plain big Victorian house.
Her dad was a total d*ck to his kids yet treated his new wife and sister-in-law so much better. To give his daughters the deed to their grandfather's house knowing they were unmarried and couldn't legally own it is bloody underhanded. I mean if she did it, (never made up my mind if she had or hadn't), I honestly can't be mad at her.
Ive been fascinated by Miss Borden ever since seeing the TV movie with Elizabeth Montgomery in the 70s. Also, have you ever considered the similarities between her case and OJ Simspn? Exact same type of murders, famous trial and 100 years apart.
MR BORDEN WAS WAY TOO CHEAP TO PAY FOR WEDDINGS HE BOUGHT LIZZIES CLASS RING WHEN SHE GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL ,HE REMINDED HER DAILY ABOUT THIS FACT. SHE TOOK IT OFF AND THREW AT HER FATHER SO HE PUT IT ON HIS FINGER AND KEPT WEARING IT TOO PUNISH LIZZIE
Do the Murphy’s murders!!! 3 killings completely unsolved.
Did anyone check if she paid the doctor to give her morphine? Think about it, it kept her dazed and gave her a reason on why she couldn’t keep her story straight and in the long run help her.
Lizzie was good at splitting things like an inheritence... and her father's skull.
And hairs I bet :>