Jeep Compass: Crank, No Start - Part II
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Now that we figured out in the first video • Jeep Compass: Crank, N... why this Jeep Compass would not run it is time to come up with a solution to the problem. Let's see what we can do to fix it and get it back on the road. -Enjoy!
PART I: • Jeep Compass: Crank, N...
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Nice fix saved the customer a lot of money
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It is incredible how simple some of these repairs turn out to be. What really amazes me is that only a few good mechanics can ever find the problem.
Maybe Mrs.O could do a "day in the shop" from her point of view. That could be interesting , perhaps even scary!
Great Video
Half an hour of yelling at Eric to stop whining for ice-cream & go fix a car or two?
Oh, a behind the scenes video...🤔. 🙋🏻♂️I’ll second the e-motion, for “a day in the shop”.👍🏽😎
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need a reality TV show at South Main Auto...I'd watch
third the motion LOL
Good thing that customer brought their vehicle to you Eric, you saved them a TON of money. Not to mention, who knows what a parts cannon mechanic would have fired at that thing....
Big Dog50001 Automotive
Those canon shooters can seriously damage a wallet!
Iam thinking they would have fired a tipm, at it first the a engine controller, then a body control module.
I question the logic of putting an important relay box so far down in the engine compartment. As this is a Jeep and in all their adverts, it shows the vehicle driving through mud and water. The relay box doesn't even look waterproof. No small wonder that I'm told not to buy a jeep. I'm floored that the whole wiring harness must be purchased. Great job and clever work around to save your customer a lot of money!
"Just remember, If I can do it, you can do it" Well, not really, BUT, the more I watch, the better I get: thanks much.
A quarter million in tools and test equipment helps too.....
@@pyralux01 Yep, I need to look at getting a test light. I might have one buried somewhere. Also need a diag putter now I'm working on newer cars.
Yes, exactly. I have learned a lot here - even for stuff where I thought I knew what I was doing, like brakes. In this one, I learned a better way to soul-dur fine stranded wire. Who would have thought a bad fan relay would lead to a no-start condition?
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american cars suck, if you made them right in the first place we wouldn't be repairing them all the time, anyway, i never bought and will never buy this crap, but it happened that i am fixing one for my relative
My wife and i had a good laugh when Mrs. O came out to ask about billing. We have the exact conversations when she is doing the invoices.
I could see Mrs O in a "South Main Soft Serve" apron.
Wow, FCA day at SMA! I had the same exact pin rot out on my Caliber and fixed it the same way you did (made replacement relay external), so now I have video proof that I did a "professional" repair, lol.
Fluid film can was broken... no sheep sounds😃
As usual I have to admire your methodology of using logic and circuit diagrams to trace out electrical faults. I've found that most mechanics shy away from electrical since they don't have the temperament for it.
I recently got a call from a friend regarding some running lights he had had someone else install on his motorcycle. He had killed his battery because he didn't know that the lights did not shut off with the ignition switch. After removing the fairing, I went into full "Eric O" mode and started by tracing the wiring back from the lights to the power source to the switch assembly. It took all of two minutes to find out that the guy who had done the work, a licensed mechanic, had cross jumpered the relay base effectively omitting the relay from the circuit. I pulled the jumper and the lights quit working altogether. When I flipped the switch, there was no telltale click from the relay so I pulled the relay out and did a quick test to find out if it worked. It didn't but fortunately there is a GM dealership about two blocks from where I was so I walked over there and they had a replacement unit for about $4.00. Popped it in and voila, the lights worked as they should. I had my friend call the wrench who had done the original work and ask why he had jumpered the relay. His response was , "The relay was no good. But relays are just a waste of time and you don't really need them so I jumpered it" So in the end my buddy was happy and now I have half a dozen guys phoning me for electrical problems on their bikes. Problem is no one wants to pay for my time and they think I should fix it over the phone........lol
You commented that you’re not a brain surgeon. Let me say, as a surgeon myself, you have the diagnostic mind to have been an excellent surgeon/physician!
Eric is in fact a rocket surgeon 😂😂
I'd say he's better than a surgeon, he works on all makes and models, surgeons only work on 2!
cruisepix ha, as a gyn surgeon I only work on 1!
broomsterm yup, ob/Gyn. I work 60-80 hours per week, but find time to watch my favorite RUclips channels, usually falling asleep to it, with the phone sometimes landing on my face. My wife likes to laugh at that part.
@@cruisepix I dunno - surgeons might only work on 2 ... but they also have to work on them while they're running. :-O
I’ve never seen anyone do that little alligator clip trick to hold the wires while you solder them, and I was a line tech for a long time. You just added something to my arsenal that will make life easier when I need it
This was very impressive how you narrowed down this electrical issue. Plus knowing that there was a repair harness rather than replacing an OEM factory harness saved hundreds of dollars. Having the wiring diagram is a must for issues like this.
I said God bless you when you sneezed, another great 2 part video MR. O.
One of my first videos was on the same problem on a compass! If theyre common enough for me to see them at a Toyota dealer, they must be pretty common! I'd love to know who thought it was a good idea to put a relay box with no protection from the weather in the wheel well lol
Seriously. It’s insane. I stripped my relay box and made my own with water proof casings. Never again! Lol
Nice repair. Love the good ol garage talk. The womans jeep compass died at 160k. CVT failed. Mr Kilmer says them jeeps are just a junky fiat. I think hes right. Keep em coming Mr. O. 👍
just empty every pocket :)
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day....
Most definitely I have a 2016 Jeep Patriot Latitude 2.0 L that is a piece of Junk. I have had one electrical problem after another. Replaced the TIPM thinking that would fix all my electrical problems and a year and a half later still having the same mysterious electrical problem and the damn Jeep Dealership can't seem to diagnose it yet!
Greetings from Puerto Rico. Great videos. I have learned a lot and implement on my daily job. Hoping someday I'll have my own shop. Blessing
If he can do it, you can do it. Regards.
A behind the scenes camera, that would be good, a day in the life of Mrs. O. and the rest of the shop.
Smashing repair, i think you have made it too reliable now :-D.
Heatshrink tubing finishes the job a treat, good to hide my crap soldering lol.
I've always liked the square style of SPDT relays, handy for most jobs and easy to get.
1:12 What I'm hearing you say is "when Chrysler has to pay for it, the pins can be replaced. When the consumer is paying for it, only the whole harness is available."
Very helpful video. There is actually an empty socket in the relay box so I moved my mine into the empty socket. I depinned the the terminals that were still serviceable and inserted them into the empty socket and soldered a wire in to replace the bad wire. I was able to find an old relay box at a u-pull junkyard so I was able to even use the actual "daisy-chained" terminals from that. Entire repair was less than $10 including an old relay from the junkyard.
Thank you. I have been going through a rough patch feeling pretty useless. My wifes jeep stopped starting and we most definitely don't have the funds to pour into our cars you recklessly gave me the tools to tackle this on my own. My wife and kids look at me differently now. Please keep teaching and inspiring. IF I CAN DO IT. YOU CAN DO IT. that made all the difference. Thank you
Great video. This is exactly what happened to my son's 2011 Compass. Don't think I would have ever figured it out on my own. Thanks so much for the video, so happy I ordered a shirt.
This video just helped me so much!!! Fixing my son's compass, first two of his relays were corroded so bad... Doing this exact fix times two! Thank You!
I'm working on a jeep patriot this weekend, same problem... I came back to this video for reference on these little "jewels"
Wow. This worked. I just did it on my jeep. LIFESAVER!
Keep doing them,I’ll watch ‘em.
Just another great video, sucking up all the knowledge you drop. Your diagnostic process is spot on. Thanks Eric O
Dude, your a genius!! A video of you making a video!!
Eric of O
You & the family have a safe and festive Memorial Day.
Cheers
Mr. O such a busy man always keeps smiling ,people should go back and watch those day in shop video's and see this man never get's 5 minutes to do anything.He is busier than a AT&T switch operator from the 50's Great work Mr.O!
Normally I don't throw much shade at MOPAR but I worked for a wire harness connector manufacturer. Putting a mere dust cover on the back of a major wire harness connector exposing the back side of the terminals to water salt and dirt is electrical engineering malpractice. Back in the early 1990s silicone grommets were used to seal the back of the connector and a silicone rubber gasket was used to seal the mating surface of the two connector. The wire harness designers and purchasing managers should be assigned to "help" mechanics fix those obvious mistakes at the dealership to correct future designs.
I have to agree on the malpractice matter. This part did exactly what it was designed to do, fail. Just like the rest of them on other vehicles, they are not built weather tight enough and they are built with too cheap a terminations, also not weather tight. As I watch vehicle repair videos, most of the issues are all electrical or module related and usually due to corrosion.
Another complaint, you would think the entire vehicles number of modules would be mounted within a "vault" or a number of "vaults" placed around the vehicle to protect them for one and second, to place them in groups so the locations are central of each other. Too many times, mechanics or the electrical trouble shooters are unable to find modules unless they spend needless time researching their locations on subscription based data diagrams. Vehicles today are over modulated...too many unessential operations/functions/features are complexed in design and cause "daisy chain" issues to innocent devices.
Nice work, it's interesting Jeep put the relay box low near the fender wheel where easy to get water/moisture damage
Your my buddy don't have many friends you are a blessing to many
This video saved me on a diag today! Great stuff. For what it's worth, AllData completely ignores this box on a 2016 Jeep Compass. Absolutely ZERO information on it's existence or location. All they give you is a connector view, but with no location or any other info, you're led to believe it's integrated into the TIPM. Even under removal/replacement or parts/labor it just takes you to TIPM.
My fault ended up being the ASD relay output, load side. Thanks Eric!
Ivan would be proud and the owner a very happy customer. Way to complete an alternate repair.
Always a good video, both content and presentation. I own older GMs. I wonder how Chrysler feels knowing 95% of RUclips repair videos are for their products? Haha. Thank you for sharing.
Compared to mine and probably everyone that complains your repair job is very good. Wish you had your shop here in Oklahoma, we sure need a shop that is interested in repair instead of how many hours they can get working on your car.........
Did this to a jeep like 3 years ago which was inspired by your first video where you diagnosed this and pulled a box from the junkyard to steel the pins
Hi Eric, My wife's 2015 Compass just had this problem the other day. I watched your video and it was extremely helpful in locating and fixing the problem. Instead of getting a relay I fixed the one that was it it by cleaning out all the green crustys and drilling out the terminal in the box that had turned to solid green concrete. I soldered a wire to the remaining good part of the leg of the relay and ran it through this hole and soldered to the wire in the harness. Easy fix in the end but your example made it a cinch. Thankyou so much! Your a great guy for sharing yor knowledge and encouraging us DIYers to even attempt it. BTW I also checked my 2008 Compass and it had 3 bad relays which were fixed the same way X3. I pulled up the harness and relocated the box into the engine compartment where it should have been from the factory.
"getter lined up in the hole, story of my life" hilarious man
IMHO you did a wonderful soldering job on those wires.
I find using the ready made heat-shrinks with solder ring and glue works fine for me and is easier to handle with my rheumatic hands.
Both methods do the important jobs: a secure connection and a protective sealing.
Yet another brilliant work around brought to you by Eric O. - im feeling like if the bottom of that harness block had been
potted, it might not have rotted-!!
Maybe just putting it in a location that doesn't see constant moisture.... Potting it just insures no one will ever be able to fix the terminals.
Good job. Saved your customer a bundle.
I really appreciate the detailed video. Im actually having the exact same issue with my 2011 compass. I didn't realize til I watched your video I replaced the wrong relay. I narrowed it down to my asd relay but I replaced the low speed fan relay. I'll get back at it tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks
Any updates ?
Just wanted to say thank you. This was the exact problem I had. All fixed and trouble free thanks to your video
Keep up the good work....I do very similar electrical repairs and your methods are refreshing to watch.
Seeing all that rust on that brake rotor and half shaft nut makes me so glad I was a mechanic in Virginia. We had rust but nothing like rust belt rust.
South of Charlottesville here
@@MERCNRY Fairfax County for me.
Once again! I am profoundly impressed! I wish I could drive my car to Avoca and break down outside your shop! Wait....no I don't...yes I do...don I don't...yes I DO! See ya soon, Eric with my North Dakota rusty 2006 Chrysler Town and Country!
I am no Mechanic but I love watching people work on cars and solve the problems. another great video sir
You helped me fix my own car plenty of times with your videos now this video might just help my neighbors jeep. His cranks no start.
I’ve told you about a million times what a brilliant troubleshooter you are (and I try to eschew exaggerations). 😳 😂😂
Great videos!! Thank you so much.
What I can’t figure out is why a critical electrical fixture isn’t weather-proofed. By that I mean protected from water splash (especially in the salt belt)? Just watching these two videos on a 2014 vehicle (only five years old) just look at all the damage done. Chrysler should be ashamed.
You owe Sheba a ice-cream 😉.
Nice cost effective repair, good professional diagnosis and solution.
Thanks for sharing and best regards from the UK.
quick tip, for the higher gauge wires(or sould I say lower?) I like to smother them in flux beforehand (search paste flux on amazon) to aid in heat transfer and ensure good flow. I also like to hold the iron on the joint for a while to ensure it all has melted(often causing me to burn my fingers). also dont worry about the people saying your soldering is bad, those joints seemed alright
holding the iron on the joint will guarantee melted insulation.
hi Eric,that was a good video on showing the right way to fix a relay.Most home mechanics ,if they would take the time to watch your videos , i believe they would learn a tremendous amount of knowledge.It's not really about learning how to fix a jeep relay specifically ,but more about how to research and come up with a PLAN on a viable solution to any problem.You a actually a viable teacher figure.thanks for what you do.
Nice work. saving the customer money by using your know how.
Super pomocny film pozdrawiam z Polski od niedawna posiadacz samochodu Jeep Compas
I really enjoy your videos. I mechaniced on heavy eguip for 40yrs before becoming disabled. I love the field, but as you know time will catch you. Keep the vedios coming. Thank you.
Love the third-hand alligator clip setup for holding the wires in place for soldering. I've always used a thin piece of hardwood and clothes pins. However, this makes getting to the back side of the joint another step.
As commented on another of your electrical issue videos, I always dab the soldered joint with liquid insulation prior to moving the heat shrink tubing in place -- anything to guaranty the green creeping monster is kept away. This might have been useful for the unnecessary relay block wire shortened and terminated. Moisture can still get up that thin opening in the heat shrink tubing.
Of course, taking the extra time to do these steps is something I can afford during DIY repairs.
Thank you for showing the boxes with part numbers to the camera!! I was in and out at Napa getting the relay and wiring within a few minutes. (Ref 8:58 mark in video)
Adding the external relay is the definitive fix. I remember doing that in the late 90's-00s on GM trucks whose f/p relays melted in the relay center after the pump drew too many amps. You could buy the relay center, but why? In this case, FCA is really giving you no choice. I also prefer the bigger relay you used with the common connector. Just makes life easier!
This man should have as many subs as Scotty Kilmer, hes that good.
Just had this exact same issue with the wife’s 16 compass. Watched ur video and found the exact same relay had corroded prongs. Wired it up and we are back and running.
huge respect from perth wa Australia
Great video. Your diagnostic approach is second to none. Keep making those videos. By the way, you need to give Mrs. O a pay raise for all of her hard work.
I'm not even a mechanic but I love watching your videos
Good job well done it's soooo refreshing seeing a fellow mechanic doing the right thing for the customer and not being a hack👍
Great job! That’s how I do things on my job. If I can fix it and do it right, save the customer some money 💰. Then that’s how it’s done. Great to see a mechanic/person that looks out for his customers/ people. Thank you Eric.
Thank you I am in the middle of fixing my compass. You help me and the step by step is great
Great job Eric! Nice to hear Josh tinkering around in the background too! ☺️👍
So many design flaws lead to failures . Seems like someone at Jeep could have predicted the electrical issues that could occur in a 4 wheel drive with controls in the underside, Great solution and money saved for the customer.
Cool fix. In a pinch I soldered the wire to the pin and drilled out the hole for a starter rely on a caliber once. Owners did not want to spend time or cash on it..... It's still running 3 years later. I like your way better. Cool video.
Sweet repair thanks for sharing Eric!
This is a prime example of why youtubers always call to annoy you. You are the best! Great fix for this guy and to save that much time and money by figuring that out is just damned good! I was seeing a trip to the salvage yard in this one till you pulled that out of your hat! Wow!
You are the best Eric O! Right down to the Fluid Film " not a sponsor!" Just worked on this for my son tonite!
Those Chrysler's are still rusting out like crazy.. even the new ones...nutz!!!
Headed an hour away from home to fix the same problem. Thanks for the heads up!
Splice is the spice of life!
Simple yet effective diagnosis and repair, auto industry needs more like you
Wish you were closer. My compass is acting up, blew a bearing in my alternator, got it fixed, then my catalytic converter replaced on a recall, then she started throwing battery light, got a new battery, worked for about a week, then battery light came back, daughter drove it to a soccer game, got stranded down the street, she will turn, but dies when you put her in gear, now trying to get her fixed, but haven't had the funds for 6 months. Everyone says just change the ECM, I can do some car repair, but not what you just did.
Love the home made 3rd hand for the soldering jobs. just a wonderful Idea.
Sounds like our boy Josh is back.
I like that your goal is to get the vehicle working, not just put in an overkill replacement part.
Know your a busy man. I'm a retired flat rater. Love the videos and the fact you take the time
to explain your logic. Customers rarely appreciate the artistry even when you explain that
you just saved them 500 bucks. Great.....what are powers and grounds?
"If I had an ice cream machine I wouldn't be doing this *crack*". 😂. Come for the auto repair, stay for the laughs. Thanks Eric!
Its good to have Josh covering your flanks.
Great job bud! You're the best in my book!
Great repair. Saved those people a bundle. They like mud so they will be back for something eventually.
got several boxes of used wiring harnesses just for those types of fun repairs has got my butt out of trouble many times .... and i have made four matching ends both male and female out of them for jumper , test leads and the like great sorce for those hard to find terminals.... by the way that came straight from meema .....
You're one of the best and most honest mechanics out there...but stop using the mini torch on heat shrink for so damn long. You're getting the wire way too hot and burning it, those heat shrink tubes don't need that much heat. Even the crimp n seal connectors don't need a massive amount of heat. Once the connector or shrink makes contact over the wire, it's good. Getting the wire too hot will compromise it and can cause issues.
Tyvm for the video. I'm up and running again works great
Another excellent diagnosis Eric. As far as soldering wires together for repairs, that's the only way to do it IMHO. I did notice your little jig to hold the wires together while you soldered. Great idea... I will have to copy it.
I have watched and learned alot from your compass videos. Wish you were a little further upstate so i could have you work on our 16 compass.
thanks for the help you just help me fix my 2009 jeep patriot
Very nice repair job! This is coming from an electrician of 40 years. Really like how meticulous you are on your other mechanical repairs too.
Common enough problem, I got that kind of problem with my horn connector, sometimes a horn sometimes not. Got to pull apart and clean contacts and see if the fixes it or not. Mr. O here is a search for you to look at on Amazon for some micro relay housings with loose contacts maybe it will help in the future. "Baosity 5 Pieces 60A Relay Connector 5Pin Board Mounting Socket Base Holder & 25 Terminals " I have replaced the headlight switch in my 79 Dodge w150 due to it burning out the connector on the back of the switch and put relays under the hood to control the lights, now they work when I need them. Looking forward to the next vijeo.
Perfect timing Eric. My daughter's Caliber has a code for fan relay. It had the same problem as your video once before and once again.
Awesome! I was near Avoca the other day and the reason I didn't stop in to say Hi was illustrated in this video. Busy is good. Thanks for continuing to take valuable time to make these vids for us.