genuinely love to see speedrunning content and strats, even if I know I cant realistically do speedruns, my clanmates/friends dont want to fully commit, and I dont want to leave them all for "randoms" but I like finding little pieces of the strat I can implement to help our runs, or even just the fun of knowing/learning
40:05 goated BWEEEEM tormentor sound Great video, even though I don't speedrun d2, the deeper understanding of how exactly the encounter triggers work is super helpful
I am not actually going to ever speedrun myself, but this video was super super interesting. I loved learning about all the details on exactly how these encounters progress, especially 1st, which felt like a black box to me.
As someone who's been wanting to get into speedrunning, and specifically wanted to do SE, this is a godsend for understanding the roles and what types of movement and how encounters work in a speed - it's super engaging and doesn't feel cheesy as all. Time to enter burger hell
Amazing guide, as a non-speedrunner this was extremely interesting to watch. You broke things down in a super digestible way. I'm trying to understand the braindead Dissection strat, and at first glace it seems really simple and straightforward. However, when I try to test it on paper and work through some examples, I run into issues. I'm probably doing something wrong with my solves, but do you have any extra resources on how that strat breaks down step-by-step? Thanks!
i cant confirm multiples guaranteed to go in, but i can confirm if theres a solo at the shadow wall or at the rally and the other 5 are on the opposite side, theyre guaranteed to go in or stay out respectively.
i found out that if you go to the top of the room in verity (where theres a joining allies area ontop) that you will most likely stay outside, ive only tried with 1 person but not more so idk if its guaranteed for more but when i did it it was 100% chance of staying out if I’m ontop in time for tp. if some1 can test this for multiple people it could save more time on 2nd phase verity.
55:52 pls lmk if im wrong but idk if your 4th encounter example with pyramid in mid is possible. if its CST and the encounter never spawns a 3d shape in a statue that’s correct. then cylinder couldnt spawn on the T in CST. i understand what you’re trying to explain but for clarity’s sake i think its worth mentioning.
Good shit man, as always. One thing I might have missed or maybe it wasn’t mentioned, how many resonance should each person/side pick up during 2nd and bank in the box? Do you need a certain amount of resonance to get the 30s DPS phase or is 1 enough to get the full time on DPS? So like R side does solo P/C, I’m guessing that means he picks up 1, sends and locks for himself so he would have none to bank. Mid guys are waiting for Favor, but since their Ultra is dead do they need to bounce a few times and build up resonance or just once and then lock as soon as Favor is called? How many resonance stacks should each of the Mid guys have? And Left, as you mentioned Titan gets Favor then locks Left, but while he’s getting Favor is the solo Left plate person bouncing for themself and building stacks while dealing with that elevation difference? Or are they waiting for Favor, then Titan comes over, bounces with them once and locks as soon as they can? How many stacks of resonance should the guys on Left bank? Sorry again if I missed it, I watched it twice and couldn’t figure that out. Thanks man!
after killing right ads i mountaintop jump up to left plate and send when aegis gets favor, i pick up the resonance and im the only one that dunks in the box
This is a fairly elementary question for the subject matter, but what would be the best place to work on your mechanical speed in transitioning from encounter to encounter? Just basic tech in overworld, or is it sometimes best to backtrack from a checkpoint?
Hey aegis! I was wondering if there will ever be a video or something short to go over some “solo” LFG strats to get the raid done quicker. Obviously most of these speedrun strats require a coordinated team to execute. But I was wondering what small parts could be done solo in any LFG team to make it a bit faster. It’s just something i’ve always wondered, and I use some strats already in other raids. Makes me feel cool n shit 🙏
Hey ageis, i was wondering if arby provided a global kinetic damage buff or if it was just to damage done by yourself. If it is kinetics would that increase the damage of microcosm, and how would that effect its ranking in the ghost of the deep dungeon compared to a gl rotation
for 1st encounter, 2nd cycle, i am a little confused about where the conductors and plates can spawn. the conductor is in the green sides 4th room. The trapped player will have a plate or conductor in 3rd room, but can the connected plate or conductor be in rooms 2 or 4? or does it only spawn in room 2 like this example. same question for non trapped side, in this example the conductor is in the 4th room, could it spawn in room 2 like the red side. or does one side get p and c in rooms 3-4, and the other get p and c in rooms 2-3. this probs aint very relevant, but just a but curious. ty : )
So the conductor will always spawn relative to the overload room, in the direction that would be room 4 for that particular tormentor cycle, I hope that makes sense. The trapped player can end up in room 2 or 3 on the next cycle based on RNG as well.
Hey i felt like missing an optimised Loadout option for 2nd enc mostly. I saw them use stillhunt into solar sword matching which banshe sells a godroll of today. Or is there a better strat with rocket dumping or smth?
For the last verity strat, wouldn't it work as long as you have 1 person with a res token outside at the start of second phase (which you should be able to guarantee)? If you got unlucky and there's only 1 person with res token left alive, just res the other person with token, who reses the next person with token. Or is there just not enough time for chain reses there?
For res strat, it is simply faster to do 3 deaths after first and second round because of how callouts will be instant. Plus there isn’t a whole lot of time to chain res.
50:35 alt b) can be done in one(ish) less step. If circles are double, circle distributes. Triangle sends triangle to circle square sends square to circle. So singles can pick up that buff (triangle can send triangle and pick up square) and maybe be done in one less knight
Doesn't work because solo rooms need 6 symbols swap (2 in each rooms) so that Witness notices. With only 4 swaps Witness doesn't care and you're just locked in the room.
in verity, don’t the inside people have to send at least one shape to each side? we wiped multiple times day 1 trying to trade efficiently like shown with all singles, and while we could’ve just been fucking it up consistantly i saw multiple posts on raid secrets theorizing and confirming this interaction. is that all bs?
Would it help at all, or is it even viable to use Prospector for Witness glyphs? Theoretically one person could do all 6 with one glyphbreaker buff, no?
@@TheAegisRelic Yeah I know rockets won't pop them all at once, I guess that's to prevent stuff like just nuking them all with Wardcliff. I haven't used Prospector in ages, but I wonder if the impact damage is applied on detonation rather than (or in addition to) on first contact, and if that would count as enough to break them? It's probably not any faster than 2 people successfully executing triples anyway...
@Hugh_Jas u can use ttf with cata to get 3 at once after weakening with any weapon and then while u shoot u can shoot the other weaked ones with a dif weapon. Look up "5 glyph breaks at once witness" and it should come up with someone doing it
Hey Aegis, one thing I really dont understand is how a radiant goldy could one shot body a tormentor? Isn't it tormentors has massive body shot damage resist? When ever I miss the crit on a tormentor with the goldy, I only do really poor damage.
Strange that people can understand inside on Verity but not realize outside is functionally the same thing. Or maybe people just understand a strategy and not how to do the encounter itself? idk.
49:45 what's the play if you are triangle but you start with (circle, circle) or (square, square)? Seems like it forces an extra trade if you go one to each or both to one
When they die, they don’t have a set spawn location inside encounter itself so they respawn to the location they previously set (not best at explaining it, video touched upon it)
I love your content, but I’ve been having some difficultly staying engaged and focused on what you say lately. After thinking about it for a while, I think I figured out why. You use a lot of filler words and sometimes use multiple at a time including but not limited to uh, so, ok?, yeah, and right?. While using filler words gives you time to think about what you’re about to say, it creates a lot of unnecessary pauses that can be quite distracting.
Yeah that happens when some vids are unscripted, this one in particular didn't even have a structure to it, it was all one take, most of my content is scripted as of late though
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thanks to this hit aegis video, I've now cleared salvation's edge 200 times
is that it
master edger frfr
Damn I aint even done it once
This like Kahn academy for D2 speedrunning
genuinely love to see speedrunning content and strats, even if I know I cant realistically do speedruns, my clanmates/friends dont want to fully commit, and I dont want to leave them all for "randoms" but I like finding little pieces of the strat I can implement to help our runs, or even just the fun of knowing/learning
40:05 goated BWEEEEM tormentor sound
Great video, even though I don't speedrun d2, the deeper understanding of how exactly the encounter triggers work is super helpful
My goat supplying peak content while I'm hungover bless your soul relic man
I am not actually going to ever speedrun myself, but this video was super super interesting. I loved learning about all the details on exactly how these encounters progress, especially 1st, which felt like a black box to me.
excited to see how fast runs for SE will be in the future, already a really interesting speedrun to watch
Consistently getting 35min clears with my team atm, without all the skips. Thanks for this!
Glad the community has people like you making videos on speedrunning information
your videos are honestly the best keep up the great work and feel better soon!
As someone who's been wanting to get into speedrunning, and specifically wanted to do SE, this is a godsend for understanding the roles and what types of movement and how encounters work in a speed - it's super engaging and doesn't feel cheesy as all. Time to enter burger hell
Our squad’s skill is definitely going up with this one! I really appreciate the information :)
This is a very good guide and totally didn’t think that this was an hour video for Verity
lets go aegis goat 4th encounter strat 😸🤟
awesome edging tutorial! been edgemaxxing ever since
This is the opposite of strat hiding
it always makes my day when the best player in destiny uploads a vid :,)
I love seeing this kind of stuff given the massive barrier to entry for D2 Speeds
0:00 certified banger
reminds me of vow. first encounter is super easy and relaxed in a regular run and turns into hell during the speedrun
The immune at 18:19 was on the hand. You missed the hydra.
I see :P
me watching this knowing i’m gold on raid report
Lmao same just curious
great video mr. relic
Alright our first encounter is about to get a rework thank you Aegis (the goat) Relic
aegsick
Hope you feel better big dog
I would love to see more of the routing/skips
Can we get a speed run vid of you speed running your speed running vids?
Amazing guide, as a non-speedrunner this was extremely interesting to watch. You broke things down in a super digestible way.
I'm trying to understand the braindead Dissection strat, and at first glace it seems really simple and straightforward. However, when I try to test it on paper and work through some examples, I run into issues. I'm probably doing something wrong with my solves, but do you have any extra resources on how that strat breaks down step-by-step? Thanks!
As long as you prio double shapes on both the 1st and 2nd set of knights it should always work, what specifically is the issue?
i cant confirm multiples guaranteed to go in, but i can confirm if theres a solo at the shadow wall or at the rally and the other 5 are on the opposite side, theyre guaranteed to go in or stay out respectively.
i found out that if you go to the top of the room in verity (where theres a joining allies area ontop) that you will most likely stay outside, ive only tried with 1 person but not more so idk if its guaranteed for more but when i did it it was 100% chance of staying out if I’m ontop in time for tp. if some1 can test this for multiple people it could save more time on 2nd phase verity.
now i can finally play the game
Can’t wait to implement this into my fireteam finder lfg groups
55:52 pls lmk if im wrong but idk if your 4th encounter example with pyramid in mid is possible. if its CST and the encounter never spawns a 3d shape in a statue that’s correct. then cylinder couldnt spawn on the T in CST. i understand what you’re trying to explain but for clarity’s sake i think its worth mentioning.
Yeah I put the wrong letters haha but you get the idea
lmao, not the preview being over an hour XD
Love the effort you put into your videos
Who would have thought the VoG relic would become one of the best Destiny content creators out there?
Good shit man, as always. One thing I might have missed or maybe it wasn’t mentioned, how many resonance should each person/side pick up during 2nd and bank in the box? Do you need a certain amount of resonance to get the 30s DPS phase or is 1 enough to get the full time on DPS?
So like R side does solo P/C, I’m guessing that means he picks up 1, sends and locks for himself so he would have none to bank.
Mid guys are waiting for Favor, but since their Ultra is dead do they need to bounce a few times and build up resonance or just once and then lock as soon as Favor is called? How many resonance stacks should each of the Mid guys have?
And Left, as you mentioned Titan gets Favor then locks Left, but while he’s getting Favor is the solo Left plate person bouncing for themself and building stacks while dealing with that elevation difference? Or are they waiting for Favor, then Titan comes over, bounces with them once and locks as soon as they can? How many stacks of resonance should the guys on Left bank?
Sorry again if I missed it, I watched it twice and couldn’t figure that out.
Thanks man!
after killing right ads i mountaintop jump up to left plate and send when aegis gets favor, i pick up the resonance and im the only one that dunks in the box
This is a fairly elementary question for the subject matter, but what would be the best place to work on your mechanical speed in transitioning from encounter to encounter? Just basic tech in overworld, or is it sometimes best to backtrack from a checkpoint?
If you already have the movement tech down itself, getting checkpoints in the raid and just practicing is the best for sure
Hey aegis! I was wondering if there will ever be a video or something short to go over some “solo” LFG strats to get the raid done quicker. Obviously most of these speedrun strats require a coordinated team to execute. But I was wondering what small parts could be done solo in any LFG team to make it a bit faster. It’s just something i’ve always wondered, and I use some strats already in other raids. Makes me feel cool n shit 🙏
Yeah I might
0:26 was that a ghost Aegis holding hostage? ☠
LMAO I think that was a car or something outside
@@TheAegisRelic Blink twice if you're okay :3
Hey ageis, i was wondering if arby provided a global kinetic damage buff or if it was just to damage done by yourself. If it is kinetics would that increase the damage of microcosm, and how would that effect its ranking in the ghost of the deep dungeon compared to a gl rotation
Global iirc
1:00:21 too late, I already did.....I am now an embarrassment
for 1st encounter, 2nd cycle, i am a little confused about where the conductors and plates can spawn. the conductor is in the green sides 4th room. The trapped player will have a plate or conductor in 3rd room, but can the connected plate or conductor be in rooms 2 or 4? or does it only spawn in room 2 like this example. same question for non trapped side, in this example the conductor is in the 4th room, could it spawn in room 2 like the red side. or does one side get p and c in rooms 3-4, and the other get p and c in rooms 2-3.
this probs aint very relevant, but just a but curious. ty : )
So the conductor will always spawn relative to the overload room, in the direction that would be room 4 for that particular tormentor cycle, I hope that makes sense. The trapped player can end up in room 2 or 3 on the next cycle based on RNG as well.
15:19 in our experience, this happens when one side is way faster than another (we are not speedrunners)
Yeah that causes that more often for sure
Hey i felt like missing an optimised Loadout option for 2nd enc mostly. I saw them use stillhunt into solar sword matching which banshe sells a godroll of today. Or is there a better strat with rocket dumping or smth?
Yeah that's what people use
For the last verity strat, wouldn't it work as long as you have 1 person with a res token outside at the start of second phase (which you should be able to guarantee)? If you got unlucky and there's only 1 person with res token left alive, just res the other person with token, who reses the next person with token. Or is there just not enough time for chain reses there?
For res strat, it is simply faster to do 3 deaths after first and second round because of how callouts will be instant. Plus there isn’t a whole lot of time to chain res.
Yeah I was thinking about that, gonna experiment with it later
50:35 alt b) can be done in one(ish) less step. If circles are double, circle distributes. Triangle sends triangle to circle square sends square to circle. So singles can pick up that buff (triangle can send triangle and pick up square) and maybe be done in one less knight
Doesn't work because solo rooms need 6 symbols swap (2 in each rooms) so that Witness notices. With only 4 swaps Witness doesn't care and you're just locked in the room.
@Wxlker new verity strat just dropped
in verity, don’t the inside people have to send at least one shape to each side? we wiped multiple times day 1 trying to trade efficiently like shown with all singles, and while we could’ve just been fucking it up consistantly i saw multiple posts on raid secrets theorizing and confirming this interaction. is that all bs?
You just have to send your two starting shapes, side doesn’t matter.
The fuyck evn is an aegisrelic bro
WHAR
Would it help at all, or is it even viable to use Prospector for Witness glyphs? Theoretically one person could do all 6 with one glyphbreaker buff, no?
Nah some explosion damage doesn't work iirc
@@TheAegisRelic Yeah I know rockets won't pop them all at once, I guess that's to prevent stuff like just nuking them all with Wardcliff. I haven't used Prospector in ages, but I wonder if the impact damage is applied on detonation rather than (or in addition to) on first contact, and if that would count as enough to break them? It's probably not any faster than 2 people successfully executing triples anyway...
@Hugh_Jas u can use ttf with cata to get 3 at once after weakening with any weapon and then while u shoot u can shoot the other weaked ones with a dif weapon. Look up "5 glyph breaks at once witness" and it should come up with someone doing it
Hey Aegis, one thing I really dont understand is how a radiant goldy could one shot body a tormentor? Isn't it tormentors has massive body shot damage resist? When ever I miss the crit on a tormentor with the goldy, I only do really poor damage.
As long as the tormentors chest crit is revealed, it indeed will kill with radiant no matter what part of the tormentor you shoot
I think tormentors don't have as much DR against super damage which is why Twilight Arsenal nukes them despite it not being precision damage
Not enough worldline 0/10.
that was unholy at 0:45
am i crazy or did aegis produce a military unit at 1:04:28
Strange that people can understand inside on Verity but not realize outside is functionally the same thing. Or maybe people just understand a strategy and not how to do the encounter itself? idk.
Definitely the latter yeah
49:45 what's the play if you are triangle but you start with (circle, circle) or (square, square)? Seems like it forces an extra trade if you go one to each or both to one
Not a possible start configuration inside
@@TheAegisRelic oh interesting, was not aware there were restrictions. I'll have to look into that more. Thanks for the insight
are you considering running the raid armor set in order to take advantage of the mods?
Mods aren't that great this raid
Quick question, if you go in and see psions in ur first room, does the overload spawn at third room?
Yeah I said that in the video
@@TheAegisRelicmb I dozed off at some points cuz of medication 😅
when is the SE speedrun tournament?
28th I think
hey, just one question i struggle to find the answer to, how does the person doing 1 - 2 get out so early?
When they die, they don’t have a set spawn location inside encounter itself so they respawn to the location they previously set (not best at explaining it, video touched upon it)
So what you're saying is the pull we got a softlock on enc 3 was the one pull we did too good 😹
gosh none of this makes sense
What the fuck is middle Angela
Someone in my chat asked "what spawns middle angela" one time and now we just call it middle angela
@@TheAegisRelic it was my friend, we are Currently running this raid and thanks of you we are doing it preatty fast
:D
Will the tournament be streamed in the speedrun discord or twitch?
Twitch :)
@@TheAegisRelic your twitch yea?
Evanf and cbgray will also be streaming the entire tournament @@rexstomp
@@disbledi hope they both watch this video so they can give some informational commentary on it to the audience
22:16 please explain this is this meowing or your chair this is important
LMAO
Can you send 2 shapes at 1 time when doing inside?
No it just cancels the interaction
When is the tournament?
28th
how straight forward would you say 3rd is encounter?
Probably the most straightforward encounter besides Witness
thx cutie
Are you sick Mr aegis
Yeah kinda congested a bit this morning
@@TheAegisRelic Get well soon Mr aegis
aegis can i please edit a video for you
bro jus got out of bed
Yeah haha
Tutorial Is More Large them RAID SpeedRun
:3
Getting hit with the unscripted rights
Held at gunpoint by the suit and tie
you say "dissecting should be done by then" lol no
anyone sorting by new?
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I love your content, but I’ve been having some difficultly staying engaged and focused on what you say lately. After thinking about it for a while, I think I figured out why. You use a lot of filler words and sometimes use multiple at a time including but not limited to uh, so, ok?, yeah, and right?. While using filler words gives you time to think about what you’re about to say, it creates a lot of unnecessary pauses that can be quite distracting.
Yeah that happens when some vids are unscripted, this one in particular didn't even have a structure to it, it was all one take, most of my content is scripted as of late though