saw the tough built today and liked it instantly. Decided to do a little research before buying. I love the lid assist on the flex, but the dished tops on the Tb have sold me. being able to lay tools, screws, bolts etc on the top and not have them roll off while working on stuff is perfect.
I think the best part of this "modular storage war" is innovation, between all the brands popping up there is so many new options for the consumer and each brand had their own spin on the modular design,and puts pressure on packout to innovate again as they did when they first came onto the scene. Also kinda crazy to see Lowes having all these new modular storage options compared to Home Depot, times are getting interesting.
I own all three and fyi 😊 the Klein roller box lid does lock in place just have to push it into the handle with some pressure and you will here it click in place to stay up
Great review! We seen these the other days at Lowe’s and I didn’t have time to check them out then. But as a lover of Milwaukee packouts and flex stacks this really might be the kit i go into. These tough builts look amazing for the prices and they look very adaptable to different layouts.
I work for a company that had all packout in the van, so I am very familiar with all packout gear. I started my own company and I have a ram 1500 with a tonneau cover. Packout did not fit under the cover and the adaptors to remove the handle are all garbage. So that left me looking for some new gear. I was not impressed with the rigid boxes or the dewalt ones. So I went to lowes. I didn't like the locking mechanism for the flex so that left me with klein. Being an electrician I already had a bias towards them. I felt they were too expensive but I needed somewhere to put all my tools and had no other options. I bought and used the mod boxes for a month. My main gripe was that while they are waterproof, if water accumulated on the top and you open it, then all that water drains into the box. And even more importantly the locking mechanism was not reliable, you would have to stop and make sure everything fit well together because the latch wouldn't close. I was honestly disappointed. Then stack teck dropped and I tried them out at the store and I was blown away. I returned all my klien boxes and got the stack pack. They are better priced and better engineered than the competition. The latch mechanism has not had any issues and the latch feel better. For the price I think that they are far ahead of the competition. I'm also exited about the upcoming releases that are confirmed. Klein only just brought out the small and large container boxes and no words on a drawer. The other brands rarely and slowly release new products too. And over all the build quality is amazing, not to mention that they are a subtle black color. I personally hated the bright colors of packout and modbox.
Toughbuilt looks great hit I would never buy into it until they release more of the lineup. Too many companies have promised full lineups but have just stuck with the basic 5-6 box setup. For that reason pack out is still winning but could be beat if toughbuilt realeasestgeir lineup faster
this spring baby cant wait!!! I just bought a bunch of packout stuff finally and returned it after seeing the TB stuff cheaper and honestly the TB is BUILT BETTER
About the only things I like with klien is the bottom box is setup to be used with an arbor and spool of wire. And that it's bright inside, which will help me find dark colored things that go missing.
Damn, that Flex system in gray matches my truck and off road trailer. My OCD is going to have me swapping my Ridgid system for camping chuck box and gear storage to a Flex system.
I just bought the gorilla grip before your review and I just used up my 3 pairs of Milwaukee. I do drywall installation as my trade so handling screws and cutting drywall both gloves definitely don't last me more than a couple weeks. I prolong the use by cutting off the finger tips as they get used up but comfort wise Milwaukee takes the cake but when I think they both are going to make me the same amount of money Ill go with gorilla grip for now. More bang for the buck. I'll be getting husky gloves this year and see how those are.
I was looking to upgrade my storage solutions the last couple of months and was debating between the stacktech and packout systems. I was leaning towards stacktech, but after they raised their pricing to the same as packout (if not more on a couple of products) I got a little more critical and ended up just going with the packout stuff. I would have to wait for later this year for ST to release some of the products I was wanting. Seeing a few comments/reviews about the organizers (just about the latches, which isn’t a deal breaker by any means). Once you have half-size products stacked you can’t stack a full-size product on top of them which does limit some of the modularity (again not a huge deal imo but something to consider). Finally just the overall size of the boxes; the couple of times I’ve handled them in person they seemed larger than comparable items from competitors for about the same amount of inside storage. Only a concern if you’re trying to conserve some space like me though. Toughbuilt seems receptive to customer criticism and comments though which is positive and the boxes seem super solid/durable compared to other brands.
I really love the toughbuilt, and wish I had waited to buy into a brand until toughbuilt came out, just because of all the accessories they have been and are about to release for the system. There is also a big third party modding scene for them budding right now. I have the Flex system, which is great. They are well built, probably stronger than any other of the toolbox's on the market. I have a rolling big box, medium full size box, small full size, two of the 3-drawer full size boxes, a full size divider and a half-size divider that are all amazingly strong. It's about 6' to 6.5' tall when stacked, I use them for nothing but 1/2" to 2" brass pex parts and crimp rings, and different types and sizes of metal straps / hangers and allthread flanges. We roll the set into the job, then remove all the boxes above the bottum rolling box at once to get into it, which probably weights 200-300 lbs when fully stocked! The handles are super well built though and haven't shown any signs of weakness or wear. I get one man on each side of the system to grab a handle and do a deadlift lol. I just wish flex would come out with more accessories for the system like toughbuilt is! There isn't really a large scene for 3d printing stuff for the flex system, so hopefully toughbuilt will kick flex and all the other brands into high gear to keep up! If not, I'm gonna be selling my flex boxes off and buying into Toughbuilt!
Good review of all three. Leaning toward Flex. First, they have a second wave of new boxes and accessories. Second, the TB doesn't allow you to open a box with something on top of it because of the "one latch" system. Third, (and I'm hoping you test) is how well the TB locking points hold up. Seems like debris or other material will get in there and cause it not to work properly.
I’m just throwing this out there but I wonder if TB did what they did with latch to prevent breakage. I definitely open my dewalt boxes and rigid ones with boxes on top. But I could see if you let things slip or were careless that it could do some damage.
TB isn't the only one using a 1 hand latch system . Milwaukee,klein,Klein, all also use only one hand buttons so I believe the TB will be fine. Also they have them able to be self serviced with screws to take it all apart to be user friendly. I have seen a video showing how the boxes could be opened with another on top but not as easy. Flex seems to have a decent set up but Imo the milwaukee and toughbuilt will be the leading competitors with toughbuilt already being heavily involved in pouches and tool totes and clip tech
Man, I thought TB would come out with more of a DIY/homeowner friendly price but they’re clearly priced closer to the competition. I love their 12 inch tote and my xl rolling tool bag to carry my small set of DIYer tools and m12 stuff. I love that there’s more competitors in the modular tool box scene. Really excited for what Chervon and TTI do with their respective brands in the near future as well as whoever makes TB and Klein.
They have a holiday special the more you buy the more you save. You can get the normal 3 piece set for $200 or you can mix and match to fit your needs unlike other brands that only have a certain set on sale
I don't know if anyone has already said but with the klein rolling box the lid will stay bit you have to push it all the way back til it click. Just an FYI
Toughbuilt has a hiliday or release sale going on .unlike other sales on other brands you arent stuck with a certain 3 piece set. All of them when paired with others are on sale . The standard 3 piece is on sale for $199 but like I said every box is on sale .
I’m trying to store something in the bottom container of the Toughbuilt. Could you possibly give me the length width height of it so I can figure out in advance ? I have limited access to a vehicle right now that’s why I’m not doing it myself. Or you can tell me if the battery 16.5” L x 11” wW x 15.2” H would fit with plenty of room to take it in and out. Thank you so much and enjoy your thorough comparisons! Oh yes, if it fits I’ll probably want to buy a simple set to lug the 61 lb battery around lol
I was torn between the ToughBuilt and the Flex systems, and what really sold me was the warranty. ToughBuilt has a lifetime warranty, but Chervon apparently didn't trust their systems, Flex AND Kobalt, enough to give them a lifetime warranty. Flex does have A LOT of accessories available, but ToughBuilt has a lot coming in 2024, for those who are willing to be patient.
Too bad HD wouldn't let you in to do a comparrison. Maybe because TB is a lowes brand. But I would like a milwaukee TB comparrison I think they are the front runners. But both have their positive and negatives. Tb full boxes not being able to stack on top of half boxes. and not having a center carry handle on the tool boxes is not really a deal breaker because they do have the suitcase handles . And the milwaukee has its own drawbacks . But both are solid choices
Just saw it in the flesh at Lowes 2 days ago. I was disappointed in the price, just a hair cheaper than the Flex & comparable really to Packout prices. Their other stuff, like their clip tech bags, are very reasonably priced. I really wanted to like it bc it looks like the system will be accessory heavy like Packout & it’s not red. Maybe I’ll spend the extra $ to import the European version of Packout that’s black & stick to it. I hope Packout copies the Transporter that Toughbiult is putting out, that’s a standout.
The only thing that stood out immediately to me on the TB is the tops are concave, and will this good water. I use my boxes outside, and it would have been better to make the tops concave to shed water. I think someone will do that soon. I like the smooth look, and think this is the design of the future.
I don't like the klein tote. It is too narrow with the center divide and non folding handle. Looks like it would get cluttered quick like my wife's purse. Also, an I the only one who realizes all 3 systems have so many dividers and lock positions? I appreciate the versatility, but You would need an extra box just for your dividers and locks!
The biggest difference is that you can buy the Klein products…StackTech seems to be dying :( which is too bad because who wants a SCREAMING ORANGE organization system
This video motivates people to make a decision on what to buy, so why not? Let me guess, you are just commenting to comment but I work in the field & I would of love for him to compare it to the Milwaukee packout stuff So again why not? 😂
A word of warning: toughbuilt does not look like a good company, they're stocks have been going lower and lower for a while now. If you are buying this for a lifetime warranty id doubt youd get it in 5 years, but obviously i hope im wrong, the stuff looks nice.
Klien Is trying to hard, they need to stay in their lane. But im sure some over zealous bean counting c suite divorcé has so many ideas and keeps saying "we need move into new markets"
saw the tough built today and liked it instantly. Decided to do a little research before buying. I love the lid assist on the flex, but the dished tops on the Tb have sold me. being able to lay tools, screws, bolts etc on the top and not have them roll off while working on stuff is perfect.
I think the best part of this "modular storage war" is innovation, between all the brands popping up there is so many new options for the consumer and each brand had their own spin on the modular design,and puts pressure on packout to innovate again as they did when they first came onto the scene. Also kinda crazy to see Lowes having all these new modular storage options compared to Home Depot, times are getting interesting.
I remember the haters and the naysayers when sexy FLEXY came about but look at it, it's all good
They need to make one that you can make simple conduit cuts on top of. Maybe a 3/4, 1 inch and 1.5 inch groove, you can rest conduit in.
Great video , I sold most of my pack out and bought the three box set of TOUGHBUILT . Very impressive collection
Your camaraman is the best in the business. Good Job TITUS!! Keep up the great work guys!! Miss hanging out with you all on Saturdays.👽
I own all three and fyi 😊 the Klein roller box lid does lock in place just have to push it into the handle with some pressure and you will here it click in place to stay up
So... After half a year, do you have any insights for us? Faves, gripes, faults, perks?
Great review! We seen these the other days at Lowe’s and I didn’t have time to check them out then. But as a lover of Milwaukee packouts and flex stacks this really might be the kit i go into. These tough builts look amazing for the prices and they look very adaptable to different layouts.
Thanks for the side by side. Found the tough box 3 drawer and wanted one for camping use. Now i may be looking into the flex box system.
Got my first TB stack, very impressed.
I was the cameraman😁
Yes you were, a pretty good camera man too 🙂
You did a great job!
@@papageo5 thanks!
Camera work was great!
@@Kosher3864 thanks I tried my best to be straight😁
I was going for klein, but NOW! I am leaning positively with tough built for me. great VID.!
I work for a company that had all packout in the van, so I am very familiar with all packout gear. I started my own company and I have a ram 1500 with a tonneau cover. Packout did not fit under the cover and the adaptors to remove the handle are all garbage. So that left me looking for some new gear. I was not impressed with the rigid boxes or the dewalt ones. So I went to lowes. I didn't like the locking mechanism for the flex so that left me with klein. Being an electrician I already had a bias towards them. I felt they were too expensive but I needed somewhere to put all my tools and had no other options. I bought and used the mod boxes for a month. My main gripe was that while they are waterproof, if water accumulated on the top and you open it, then all that water drains into the box. And even more importantly the locking mechanism was not reliable, you would have to stop and make sure everything fit well together because the latch wouldn't close. I was honestly disappointed. Then stack teck dropped and I tried them out at the store and I was blown away. I returned all my klien boxes and got the stack pack. They are better priced and better engineered than the competition. The latch mechanism has not had any issues and the latch feel better. For the price I think that they are far ahead of the competition. I'm also exited about the upcoming releases that are confirmed. Klein only just brought out the small and large container boxes and no words on a drawer. The other brands rarely and slowly release new products too. And over all the build quality is amazing, not to mention that they are a subtle black color. I personally hated the bright colors of packout and modbox.
Thanks MM for your information and video 📹 I appreciate you 🔧
👍🏻 Thank you for the review!
i like the draw units my self. just wish the bottom units on all them could be accessed without unstacking everything
Toughbuilt looks great hit I would never buy into it until they release more of the lineup. Too many companies have promised full lineups but have just stuck with the basic 5-6 box setup. For that reason pack out is still winning but could be beat if toughbuilt realeasestgeir lineup faster
this spring baby cant wait!!! I just bought a bunch of packout stuff finally and returned it after seeing the TB stuff cheaper and honestly the TB is BUILT BETTER
They now are. TB has moved most of their Spring lineup to January.
About the only things I like with klien is the bottom box is setup to be used with an arbor and spool of wire.
And that it's bright inside, which will help me find dark colored things that go missing.
Damn, that Flex system in gray matches my truck and off road trailer. My OCD is going to have me swapping my Ridgid system for camping chuck box and gear storage to a Flex system.
I just bought the gorilla grip before your review and I just used up my 3 pairs of Milwaukee. I do drywall installation as my trade so handling screws and cutting drywall both gloves definitely don't last me more than a couple weeks. I prolong the use by cutting off the finger tips as they get used up but comfort wise Milwaukee takes the cake but when I think they both are going to make me the same amount of money Ill go with gorilla grip for now. More bang for the buck. I'll be getting husky gloves this year and see how those are.
I love the toughbuilt. 👍. Crap that HomeDepot wouldn’t let you compare. big win for Lowe’s.
I was our local HD tonight… I liked the Dewalts drawer add was on sale and their other units on sale as well… the wheeled, medium and small boxes
Wheeled was 89 30 bucks off
Med 59 20 bucks off
Small was 49
The 2 deep drawer 21” is 30 off for 99
If you’re in San Antonio anytime soon, you can use my pack out stack to compare side by side if you’d like
I was looking to upgrade my storage solutions the last couple of months and was debating between the stacktech and packout systems. I was leaning towards stacktech, but after they raised their pricing to the same as packout (if not more on a couple of products) I got a little more critical and ended up just going with the packout stuff.
I would have to wait for later this year for ST to release some of the products I was wanting.
Seeing a few comments/reviews about the organizers (just about the latches, which isn’t a deal breaker by any means).
Once you have half-size products stacked you can’t stack a full-size product on top of them which does limit some of the modularity (again not a huge deal imo but something to consider).
Finally just the overall size of the boxes; the couple of times I’ve handled them in person they seemed larger than comparable items from competitors for about the same amount of inside storage. Only a concern if you’re trying to conserve some space like me though.
Toughbuilt seems receptive to customer criticism and comments though which is positive and the boxes seem super solid/durable compared to other brands.
Awesome review
All 3 seem good I would be curious about the draw units
I really love the toughbuilt, and wish I had waited to buy into a brand until toughbuilt came out, just because of all the accessories they have been and are about to release for the system. There is also a big third party modding scene for them budding right now. I have the Flex system, which is great. They are well built, probably stronger than any other of the toolbox's on the market. I have a rolling big box, medium full size box, small full size, two of the 3-drawer full size boxes, a full size divider and a half-size divider that are all amazingly strong. It's about 6' to 6.5' tall when stacked, I use them for nothing but 1/2" to 2" brass pex parts and crimp rings, and different types and sizes of metal straps / hangers and allthread flanges. We roll the set into the job, then remove all the boxes above the bottum rolling box at once to get into it, which probably weights 200-300 lbs when fully stocked! The handles are super well built though and haven't shown any signs of weakness or wear. I get one man on each side of the system to grab a handle and do a deadlift lol. I just wish flex would come out with more accessories for the system like toughbuilt is! There isn't really a large scene for 3d printing stuff for the flex system, so hopefully toughbuilt will kick flex and all the other brands into high gear to keep up! If not, I'm gonna be selling my flex boxes off and buying into Toughbuilt!
Good review of all three. Leaning toward Flex. First, they have a second wave of new boxes and accessories. Second, the TB doesn't allow you to open a box with something on top of it because of the "one latch" system. Third, (and I'm hoping you test) is how well the TB locking points hold up. Seems like debris or other material will get in there and cause it not to work properly.
I’m just throwing this out there but I wonder if TB did what they did with latch to prevent breakage. I definitely open my dewalt boxes and rigid ones with boxes on top. But I could see if you let things slip or were careless that it could do some damage.
@@Summitperry Good point. It's something different so we'll see how it works over time.
I am a packout freak but I got to admit the New Girl on the block is sexy FLEXy I'm divorced you Milwaukee PACKOUT
TB isn't the only one using a 1 hand latch system . Milwaukee,klein,Klein, all also use only one hand buttons so I believe the TB will be fine. Also they have them able to be self serviced with screws to take it all apart to be user friendly. I have seen a video showing how the boxes could be opened with another on top but not as easy. Flex seems to have a decent set up but Imo the milwaukee and toughbuilt will be the leading competitors with toughbuilt already being heavily involved in pouches and tool totes and clip tech
I meant to say ryobi not klein twice
Man, I thought TB would come out with more of a DIY/homeowner friendly price but they’re clearly priced closer to the competition. I love their 12 inch tote and my xl rolling tool bag to carry my small set of DIYer tools and m12 stuff. I love that there’s more competitors in the modular tool box scene. Really excited for what Chervon and TTI do with their respective brands in the near future as well as whoever makes TB and Klein.
They have a holiday special the more you buy the more you save. You can get the normal 3 piece set for $200 or you can mix and match to fit your needs unlike other brands that only have a certain set on sale
@@taylanlowe120 that’s really cool, thanks for letting me know! I’ll probably pick up a couple of them when I go to Lowe’s
May just be online so double check
They are made in the USA 🇺🇸. They don't get their supplies overseas where it would be cheaper
I don't know if anyone has already said but with the klein rolling box the lid will stay bit you have to push it all the way back til it click. Just an FYI
Toughbuilt has a hiliday or release sale going on .unlike other sales on other brands you arent stuck with a certain 3 piece set. All of them when paired with others are on sale . The standard 3 piece is on sale for $199 but like I said every box is on sale .
I’m trying to store something in the bottom container of the Toughbuilt. Could you possibly give me the length width height of it so I can figure out in advance ? I have limited access to a vehicle right now that’s why I’m not doing it myself. Or you can tell me if the battery 16.5” L x 11” wW x 15.2” H would fit with plenty of room to take it in and out. Thank you so much and enjoy your thorough comparisons! Oh yes, if it fits I’ll probably want to buy a simple set to lug the 61 lb battery around lol
I got the Klein, because I like Klein, but they are behind on getting stuff out, like drawers
I was torn between the ToughBuilt and the Flex systems, and what really sold me was the warranty. ToughBuilt has a lifetime warranty, but Chervon apparently didn't trust their systems, Flex AND Kobalt, enough to give them a lifetime warranty. Flex does have A LOT of accessories available, but ToughBuilt has a lot coming in 2024, for those who are willing to be patient.
Too bad HD wouldn't let you in to do a comparrison. Maybe because TB is a lowes brand. But I would like a milwaukee TB comparrison I think they are the front runners. But both have their positive and negatives. Tb full boxes not being able to stack on top of half boxes. and not having a center carry handle on the tool boxes is not really a deal breaker because they do have the suitcase handles . And the milwaukee has its own drawbacks . But both are solid choices
Not sure why he didn’t buy them all at HD, review in the parking lot, return when done 😂
Looks like Klien is the only one where the rolling box can open with something stacked on top. Is that right?
Which brands have a wheeled drawer base?
I remember when the naysayers used to hate on FLEX but competition is good now look at what we have this is good for us
Great point , there are a lot of tool snobs out there lol .
Just saw it in the flesh at Lowes 2 days ago. I was disappointed in the price, just a hair cheaper than the Flex & comparable really to Packout prices. Their other stuff, like their clip tech bags, are very reasonably priced. I really wanted to like it bc it looks like the system will be accessory heavy like Packout & it’s not red. Maybe I’ll spend the extra $ to import the European version of Packout that’s black & stick to it. I hope Packout copies the Transporter that Toughbiult is putting out, that’s a standout.
The only thing that stood out immediately to me on the TB is the tops are concave, and will this good water. I use my boxes outside, and it would have been better to make the tops concave to shed water. I think someone will do that soon. I like the smooth look, and think this is the design of the future.
This will hold water...
Yes. I wouldn't be a huge deal if the boxes are truly waterproof, but if the water freezes in the winter, it could be a huge issue.
What a great Lowe's ad! Lol I love Home Depot but their managers suck
Sexy FLEXy in the house
Not really. Toughbuilt is a lowes brand . Of course they will let you compare all 3 brands that are in their stores
Give me Toughbuilt like all Toughbuilt plastic and tools
I already bought stack packs and I can't justify buying the tough built 😢
Me gusta el Stacktech ❤ mejor estética y más rápido que Packout
ToughBuilt has Klein & Packout beat with their corner & side rail system.
I don't like the klein tote. It is too narrow with the center divide and non folding handle. Looks like it would get cluttered quick like my wife's purse. Also, an I the only one who realizes all 3 systems have so many dividers and lock positions? I appreciate the versatility, but You would need an extra box just for your dividers and locks!
10:40 those clear top divider bins are trash. Might as well not have included them.
Forget Home depot.go to lowes!
Klien is made for electricians little more
The biggest difference is that you can buy the Klein products…StackTech seems to be dying :( which is too bad because who wants a SCREAMING ORANGE organization system
Dude, seriously? Why did you think they'd allow you to film a whole segment comparing to things sold at the competitor?
This video motivates people to make a decision on what to buy, so why not?
Let me guess, you are just commenting to comment but I work in the field & I would of love for him to compare it to the Milwaukee packout stuff
So again why not? 😂
flex is better build,
A word of warning: toughbuilt does not look like a good company, they're stocks have been going lower and lower for a while now. If you are buying this for a lifetime warranty id doubt youd get it in 5 years, but obviously i hope im wrong, the stuff looks nice.
tough built going to have a lower rolling drawer box , game changer , blows the others out of water there drawers system
Klien Is trying to hard, they need to stay in their lane. But im sure some over zealous bean counting c suite divorcé has so many ideas and keeps saying "we need move into new markets"