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I find this ironic. I was mostly plant based for years (no processed) and was never any sicker. Went to grass fed meat, raw milk some eggs, and one cup of vegetable a day and I've never been better. I was so inflamed, thought I was dying. Animal based diet saved my life.
Lots of people with this experience. I eat red meat usually 2x daily from a local rancher with some fruit and yogurt thrown in and I have not been sick for 7 years and my CAC score is zero. Seems like some people thrive on meat diets and a few others thrive on plants. Evolutionary speaking, our ancestors would have preferred meat I think.
Being on an all meat diet has been the one diet that has kept me inflammation free from psoriatic arthritis. I don't always adhere to it but I know I have something to go back to when I let things get out of control. I eat a very limited diet as it it (and pretty clean) but nothing beat the beef diet (with some eggs and avocado) for me too.
Can anyone confirm from the studies HOW the meat and dairy was consumed? There's a massive difference between meat eaters, who consume large amounts of sugar and processed foods (high carb, low quality meat, usually paired with seed oils), and carnivores who ONLY consume meat (low/zero carb, high quality meat). Can anyone confirm?
It's interesting, in Iceland they eat mostly meat, dairy, and fish and the men their have the third highest life expectancy in the world. They are a country where fruits and vegetables are not a staple of the diet traditionally. It's grains and sugars that are killing people, not meat. Humans have been eating meat for thousands of years, but now all of a sudden, it's deadly.
Not sure exactly how that argument goes as Man has also been dying for thousands of years. Also this type of inflammation affects man after reproductive age so should not bestow selective pressure.
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My complaint about the "non-vegetarian" study is it does not differentiate someone who eats processed/fast foods from someone who avoids those foods or is on a paleo or keto diet.
Tell that to my grandma she ate meat cheese and bacon all her life she lived to be 107 years old. My girlfriend switched to a low carbohydrate meat and vegetable program and reversed her type 2 diabetes.
I changed from being vegetarian to eating plant-based organic high fiber, low fat, low protein, no sugar or processed foods or alcohol and use filtered water. My Oncologist is totally impressed, I have also eliminated many toxins from my environment and exercise. After nearly dying from Endometrial Cancer I am not cancer free and my recurrence risk is only 4% now, will become less as I lose more weight. I am in my mid seventies, and plan to live a long and purposeful life. If I can do it anyone can.
My wife was placed on the"Ornish" diet after her cardiac stent. Not only has her cardiac function improved, but the psoriatic lesions on her arms have completely cleared after removing dairy from her diet. Thanks for the understandable presentation of this inflammation process.
I've seen other physicians who have reviewed these studies. One thing they consistently find is that there is no control for what else the "meat eating" subjects were eating. Someone on a vegan diet is likely to be more conscious of their overall diet and exercise routine, whereas a truck driver eating meat might have french fries with his cheeseburger.
Interesting. Here are some questions from a whole-food based omnivore who is very upset about the seeming war between the "plant-based" food and "animal-based" food adherents 1. BMI doesn't take into account body composition - what happens if you study people according to their percent of fat and lean muscle mass? Body fat is, afterall, highly inflammatory. And meat-eaters seem to be more interested in building muscles than non-meat eaters are. (An aside: the social movement towards reducing or eliminating meat consumption encourages the production of hyper-processed food-like substances that are very profitable). 2. "Vegetable" oils can be highly inflammatory ... is it meaningful to consider fats in animal-based foods in the same category - as one of the studies you refer to does? 3. It sounds like there is a lot of individual genetic variation production of antibodies against Neu5Gc. How does this express itself - how is it discovered? 4. Has the issue of Neu5Gc been studied comparing populations who have similarly healthy lifestyles (remembering again that BMI may not be a particularly important parameter)?
Oh great. I've done everything from fruitarian to carnivore. Now what do I eat?? Lol! When I went Carnivore I lost 20 pounds and was able to throw away both my anti-depressants and anti inflammatory pain relievers. Guess I'll die no matter what. Ug.
You are my heroes!!! If only more doctors stopped pushing drugs and started talking diet. I stopped eating red meat 12 years ago when I got a lupus diagnosis. I feel that a healthy diet helps me keep inflammation under control.
Interesting. Curious if there were healthy or unhealthy user biases found in these studies - specifically refined sugar and carbohydrate intake which seem to also promote inflammation...
I was raised vegetarian and I have been aware of nutrition all my life. I’m 66 & have no health problems & take no Rx meds. Believe it or not, but I have lived it!
Well, I was an omnivore typical Asian-American. I switched to vegan at 52 thinking it would prolong my good health up to then and fit body. Well after two years I developed arthritis, then Lupus, and Hashimoto's Disease. My health condition dramatically deteriorated. You can read the rest in my post above yours.
What do you think of the keto diet? I had been a strict vegan, but it was getting to the point that every time I ate, I'd need a nap. Keto advocates insist this is due to insulin resistance due to the constant intake of sugars and carbs. I've been on the keto for over a month and I've lost 15 lbs. and I don't necessarily need sleep after eating. I'm 65, BTW, and in at least the 90th percentile of my age group with fitness. I suppose I could do keto vegan, but I'd probably keep eggs, i.e., very low-carb, veggies, and pea, hemp, egg protein. All in all, I don't doubt what you're saying here at all, it's just that once again, experts seem to be saying conflicting things. Alas. . . .
Damn, such a great breakdown. I’m going to show this to my AP Bio students to show them how various topics we’ve talked during the year are used in clinical science.
Thank you for the excellent review and some motivation to change our diets again. The idea that these are inflammation causing roots of disease may not be new, but learning the science behind it is interesting and enlightening. During and following a breast cancer treatment, I followed a diet that was mostly vegan and we have always cooked from fresh or frozen unprocessed foods for about 90% of our diet. My father insisted we always eat foods as close to their initial form since the 1960’s. We have found it difficult to cut red meat and pork out entirely, but I prefer that to developing metastatic BC or some other inflammatory disease! It would be interesting to know how much of a reduction in these foods vs an elimination of them would be advisable for a damage reversal and then ongoing diet. I.e.: At what threshold does red meat/processed meat and dairy consumption become problematic? Is once a week still too much? Is this the end of butter?! LOL. Glad I like oat milk, guess I’ll be learning how to make it!
Have you looked at wheat and gluten inflammation? (Breads, pasta, pastries) These causes a lot of gut inflammation for a lot people.. For folks like me, so many vegetables causes issue as well. MSG is another inflammatory item. What I tell people is keep your foods simple. 1 ingredient is a healthier choice. So many bakery goods are not good for you. Eat Whole Foods not process single serving items. If you look at a label and you can not tell what it is, that is not food. Chemicals in food is not food and if you need a degree in chemistry to know what it is that is not something you should eat. I stick to my mostly meat diet because it is better for me. Meat is easier for me to digest and I don’t suffer as much with inflammation from certain veggies, and I avoid wheat. Final note, food is cultural for most, but out body is not. We should eat what is best for your body. Some people do better on a vegan or paleo diet, others do better on a lower carb diet. Either of these diets should consist of trying to keep the diet simple. Manufactured food in a chemical planet is not food. I can not stress that enough. Having had colon surgery I hope to help others from having to go through the pain I did. Too much pasta, breads, and pastries causes a lot of inflammation in the gut. If people would cut them for a week, they would see a bigger improvement in their joints. Fruit for a snack or desert. Use a fork over bread. No spaghetti noodle, use a veggie instead.
Having Lupus and rheumatoid Arthritis, I know about inflammation. I also know the switching to a carnivore diet 8 months ago has relieved me of my suffering and I gave lost weight to boot. I eat meat, eggs, and hard cheeses, I cook with butter or lard and feel 20 years younger and generally healthier in all areas. I also went iff my Blood Pressure medication. While doing thing I kept my muscle mass instead of turning into a skinny, weak, girly man. Guess which diet I recommend
I have lots of respect to the Doctors here, but in this instance I don't agree. How can you explain various examples where people eating exclusively animal products, myself included actually lower the CRP ( my CRP was at 0.5 on keto and dropped further to 0.4 when I tried a diet mostly contain milk, eggs and meat). Besides, my health is 100% better now, compared to my health over 20 years ago when I was a vegetarian. I was as sick as a dog despite eating so much veggie and fruits, I got any illness around me, so much so that on average I need to take 6 months off work due to respiratory infections Now, I am 20 years older eating less than 5% of diet as veggies, the rest is meat and animal products and I feel so much healthier. I haven't got any illness/ infection for the last 2 years. In winter, people around me are sick as dropping flies but I am still going strong. I don't believe that meat cause chronic inflammation, it is actually quite the opposite.
Really loved hearing about this timely study put in a way I can understand and it is concise. The best example I've seen for preventing certain health issues that I'm personally concerned about. Keep up the great work and many thanks!
I’m not finished with the video yet, but adding initial impressions at 8:30. The table is interesting. According to my understanding and clinical experience, the causes of inflammation are not monolithic. I’ve been inspired by traditional medical systems like a Chinese Medicine and Ayurveda to see a patient’s symptoms in constellation with one another. What emerges are different “climate patterns” that may cause a similar disease endpoint, for example IBS, but are very different in their holistic expression (body type, metabolism, other symptoms, even mood and personality tendencies). High Gcemic index foods appear to exacerbate a “damp heat” type inflammation. This is opposed to a “damp cold” pattern, which also associated with systemic inflammation diseases. However, “damp cold” types tend to do worse with cow dairy, especially soft cheeses and milk, and do better with hard cheeses and especially goat and sheep cheeses. “Dampness” is a descriptive term (meant to evoke images of swamps, compost piles, fermentation & dank moldy environments) that appears in part to describe states of intestinal dysbiosis, like candida overgrowth, yeast infections, etc, but also fluid retention, lymphatic congestion, and so on. “Damp heat” is sometimes a progression in severity of an originally “damp cold” state, and is generally characterized by more severe inflammatory symptoms like eczema, gout, and potentially cancers (though cancer has many potential patterns associated with causation). Pondering how these traditional systems think about disease etiology, pathophysiology, and treatment strategy is very interesting and clinically useful. I try to see people through both lenses, modern scientific and traditional phenomenological - i can’t always reconcile the two, but it’s a useful second perspective.
Hi Medcram. Do these studies successfully control for healthy & unhealthy user biases? Someone who is consciously choosing their diet (be it vegetarian, vegan, pescatarian, ovolactoid or whatever) is likely to be more health conscious in other ways. Meanwhile a red meat eater could be someone who eats McDonalds or equivalent junk every day, or it could be someone who is choosing organic, unprocessed meat 3x a week as part of a consciously healthy lifestyle. Our health expectations for these two would be radically different! Do these large scale epidemiological studies control for these important differences within groups?
For starters, meat and poultry that has consumed green parts of the plants will have vitamin K in the meat to help take calcium from blood stream and put it into bone. Grain raised meat will have vitamin k absent in the meat. I expect in Ruminants the gut microbiota will be vastly different in these groups also.
Thank you for this. I would appreciate more nutrition centered videos like this. Very informative and there is a real need for trustworthy sources in this area. And thank you again for all the videos! Been following the channel for over a year now. Great work.
Finding a contributing cause of inflammation is exceptional. More so that it is dietary, and so accessible for mediation by anyone through simple dietary alteration.
The problem I have with these studies is food isn't just one thing. Food has many things in it. It is like saying fruit is bad because fruit has sugar in it. Or vegetables are bad because vegetables are full of nitrates. Sure sugar us inflammatory, but fruit is not just sugar. Meat and dairy are full of nutrients too.
My Dad is 91, loves his cookies and big bowl of Ice Cream every night. He has no chronic pains and still plays golf 3X a week in season. Reads voraciously a book a week. Has 2 scotchs every night w/cheese, salami and crackers. Doesn’t smoke & never gets sick! Told him he should write a diet book 🤣. Genetics are important I guess, both his parents made it to late 80’s. Both smoked & drank.
I’m also curious about grass fed animal products. I’ve heard that grass fed beef and bison meat are much higher in omega 3 vs omega 6 & 9, the latter being possibly more inflammatory? So interesting that goat and sheep cheese is higher in N5gc. I’ve been drinking goat milk ever since my acupuncturist essentially said that goat milk should be less inflammatory than cow dairy? Based on digestion? Btw, I discovered MedCram during covid and your unbiased science analysis is so helpful! I’ve shared MedCram with many as a highly informative and reliable resource! Thank You for your invaluable public service!!! ✨🙏✨💜✨
Strange, my wife doesnt eat red meat or dairy and has been suffering with inflammation for years. I eat almost all red meat and all other meats including organs and went from 380 lbs to 218 lbs and have never felt better. I am 45 years old and havent been this weight since 1990, my freshman year in high school.
Avoid meat & diary products when my eczema flare up. Its really help reduce the inflamation. Thx for the explanation. I did that before never know the reason.
Can you please create a video addressing this in correlation with the Keto Diet please? I don't want to start Keto if I'd be eliminating one problem but creating another. Thank you.
I like how Kyle always has great questions as if it wasn't planned. Reminds me of the Byron Allen Show. *edit: I'm not trying to be negative - just niche funny. I am very grateful for all the work you guys are doing. Found you in ~March of 2020 and am a big fan. Thanks guys.
One question. Are these studies done, which take into account meat, with any light shed on consumption of PUFAs and amount of Carbs ingested by these individuals? Anything about Exercise and Sleep patterns? Anything regarding the food containers whether they were made of plastic with BPA etc etc. Anything about the levels of Vitamin D, Magnesium and ingestion of Vit K2. It's not one thing that determines your amount of Inflammation. I'm just saying. I would love the good doctor to shed some light on that. PS. Sorry for saying one question and asking many :)
All of these confounding variable‘s are difficult to control for but are attempted. The new research seems to correlate for the first time in humans the amount of dietary Salic acid with the amount of antibodies against that Salic acid. This is been a link that has been missing for sometime.
My plastic surgeon's nurse told me to eat 3 to 4 oz / day of red meat prior and post surgery to help a flap procedure on my nose. Note: I have hemochromatosis. Thoughts? Also, I was asked to discontinue D3 (6000 UI/day) , Zinc and Quercitin 2 weeks prior to surgery -- I take these as a prophylaxis against Covid.
Extremely informative I appreciate your clarity on this subject something I must make adjustments in my dietary regimen.Any suggestions on what to substitute for meats as far as a protein source yet have the benefits as a meat diet ie iron and B12 acquisition,if not then supplementation with a vegan protein source.Thank you for your dedication to the health and welfare for millions of people and your patients 😊
Grass-fed meats and dairy (Inc raw) can be credited for healing many people's health. As typical today, animal is being blamed for health problems, a food that's been around since time began. On the other hand, modern-day "foods" like vegetable oils and sugar, are quietly ignored in studies as the actual cause behind Inflammation, metabolic syndrome, mitochondrial dysfunction, illnesses, etc. Also glaring by its absence in research are the 85,000 manmade chemicals in our world today!
The study needs more in depth information, either the people in the study have unhealthy habits, how often they consume cruciferous vegetables?what type of meat and dairy are their consumption? Do their vitamin D levels are optum? Do their levels of vitamins C are good? How is tge level of B12,B9, B6?? HOW IS the selenium and zinc levels? Do they consume bitter greens? Do they consume mostly refined oils?? Do they consume a lot of gluten and refined sugars? Do they have parasites? Only with those observations been considered in the sturdy I would trust the study
This is the worst Medcram of an otherwise excellent series. I can only guess it is biased by the anti-cow, global warming mind set that is now popular. Most people are overweight and are overdosing in all foods. Red meat is one of them. Blaming meat and dairy for diabetes with no comment on the obviously very common overdosing of sugar & other carbs seems a stretch. Likewise with cardio problems. Meat & dairy actually slow the digestion of carbs for a positive effect on diabetes incidence and fat production. And the actual charts show it is goat milk that is far worse than cow milk.
I am a little skeptical on this video (on some points). If I recall correctly, Dr. Esselstyn did several interventions to his patients, including an exercise program. It wasn't just diet. Also, his diet regimen was so strict, that some dropped out of research (i.e. they didn't find it sustainable). Furthermore, when most people say they eat meat, they usually mean junk food... a burger with fries and coke is classified as "meat".
I believe only 1 person in his cohort dropped out and had further cardiac events and the others did not.I am not aware of angiographic studies that have shown the degree of reversal in exercise only.
Cut out the sugar. Get rid of your insulin resistance. Get off the insulin and diabetic meds. We need protein and fat in our diets....we do not need carbs to survive, except to feed our sugar addiction
Most of us on a western diet can afford to cut back on red and processed meat granted, not convinced that traditional dairy products (as opposed to ultra processed) is bad, IMO the good from dairy (beneficial microbes, nutrients) outweigh the bad (autoimmunity/inflammation, Sialic acid link? ). French people eat large amounts of dairy, especially cheese and rank as some of the healthiest according to Tim Spector.
Majority of us disagree. Rafined carbs, constantly elevated insulin and unhealthy oils are inflamers and killers. Meat has bad sides, but is negligable compared to real killers.
I used to be able to eat red meat and pork all my life till I had my gallbladder removed. Had it removed in 2007. Since that surgery my body will not process the red meat or pork. After 30 mins to an hour I vomit it all back up, and after I feel lousy for about a day. I haven't eaten either in well over a decade.
This is one of the best videos supporting a vegan or WFPB dietary eating plan. Thank you for the great analysis and targeted explanation. Let’s get these studies to other medical doctors…
Wouldn't exposure to animal products early in life allow for the recognition of Neu5Gc as non-foreign, preventing adaptive immunity against it? How have humans evolved on diets of meat and still thrived with life long inflammation?
Perhaps the chronic inflammation of coronary artery disease affects humans long after reproductive age and therefore would not cause environmental pressure for survival.
This is great work. I'm a bit sceptical, 6mins in where the study shown states, "likely contributing to". Not underlined. More research needed to prove this hypothesis. Also most of the studies presented, have links to 7th day Adventist supported bodies.
Just the Adventist Health Study which is no surprise since it was sponsored by them. The Neu5GC studies where from Israel and UCSD in addition to others.
A heck of a stretch to connect covid 19 complications to Neu5Gc, but the general take home of Neu5Gc that limiting intake may be beneficial for reducing chronic inflammation. As always, there is no free lunch in human biology and nutrition.
I want to know what the other parts of the diets were also. Because I know they weren't just eating the two types of meat in that huge study. Were they avoiding pasta /bread carbs by eating lots of veggies ? Was any group eating more seafood with omega 3's.
thanks Dr. Seheult, its very informative. I never heard Neu5Gc, as well as Sialic Acids. Appreciate all this medical lectures . Hope to hear from your future videos.
I'm so grateful for super smart people like Dr. Roger. And even more so his ability to so clearly explain these findings. Great inspiration here to stick to my diet-- thank you!
I don't eat meats, I have diabetes and am anemic and have Heart disease /heart failure, full of arthritis with inflammation. Have Ulcerative colitis so what do I eat?Not much. Only vegetables I like are peas carrots.
Dr. Seheult, this is excellent. Your videos are outstanding. I was so curious about one thing as I watched this one. What role does a combination of the SAME levels of meat consumption play when coupled with regular exercising to maintain a healthy BMI?
Fascinating talk Dr. Seheult! My family is ovo-lacto-vegetarian and I am in particular an adult woman that suffers from severe acne. My acne has improved about 95% after I stop consuming milk and yogurt. From my experience I can attest that even "organic" milk, yogurt and cheese cause SEVERE INFLAMMATION on my face (acne cysts, postules, nodules, etc)! . I agree with the latest research in that the BEST AVAILABLE diet for humans is a Vegan diet. My hope is to become a vegan if I am able to stop consuming cheese.. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You are a phenomenal teacher! ❤️🙏
Stopped eating corpses at 18, stopped consuming maternal milk products at 19. 33 and thriving. What’s taking everyone else so long? How long does it take to figure out the proper fuel for human bodies? Gettin rid of cooked foods now.
I want to do keto with good fats no grains no salt and only poultry eggs and fish for protein because I have severe inflammation and autoimmune diseases. I don’t eat any thing processed for years. I think you guys are wrong to say to take away the good fats. We need those for our brains especially after covid and if you have MS like me.
This may be totally irrelevant but when I stopped eating all meat about 30 yrs ago, I noticed after the first year the I didn't get the cold sores I would get every single year, sometimes more than once. No double blind experiment, but I am convinced of the connection.
I never fully understood why red meat was linked with illnesses. Increased inflammation caused by red meat and certain dairy products is the answer. Furthermore, some types of meat and dairy products have more and others less of the inflammatory agent. Good news is that fish and eggs contain none of it. This video greatly enhanced my understanding of how to eat to avoid disease. It is a treasure. Thank you!
Fascinating. I started on a Esselstyn type plant based diet last August to lower a stubbornly high cholestrol. Worked a charm. The more I learn,the happier I am that I made the healthier choice to eliminate animal products from my diet.
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for the straight-forward explanation of why eating other mammals can increase our inflammatory responses. I always wondered about it.
Ok, so I really need to know. I have often thought that animals humanely and truly pasture raised would be a better source of food than GMO veggies and fruits. At the same time we hear so many saying it’s not the meat, it’s the sugar. Has anyone looked at this in families who mostly eat local pasture raised eggs and meats from animals who are not in cages, not in dark barns with wall to wall chickens, and are outside whenever they want. Has anyone looked at it?
Very Interesting: 1. As noted about 'Bovine Serum', this probably accounts for some of the side-effects that standard Vaccines have been presenting for the past ~40 years, regarding systemic inflammation & lupus-like effects. 2. I thrive off of meat, but I have often noticed that, when I am feeling a little "off", my gums get irritated after eating Beef... and I feel strange after eating Pork and Chicken... though this rarely happens with Lamb, Goat, Turkey, or Fish. I have scoured the internet searching for why this might be, and this Sialic Acid may be part of the answer. I wonder if any causative association can be established with the irritation presented by this molecule and the principles of Peter D'Adamo's "Blood Type Diet" theory. Might be work looking into.
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I find this ironic. I was mostly plant based for years (no processed) and was never any sicker. Went to grass fed meat, raw milk some eggs, and one cup of vegetable a day and I've never been better. I was so inflamed, thought I was dying. Animal based diet saved my life.
Lots of people with this experience. I eat red meat usually 2x daily from a local rancher with some fruit and yogurt thrown in and I have not been sick for 7 years and my CAC score is zero. Seems like some people thrive on meat diets and a few others thrive on plants. Evolutionary speaking, our ancestors would have preferred meat I think.
Being on an all meat diet has been the one diet that has kept me inflammation free from psoriatic arthritis. I don't always adhere to it but I know I have something to go back to when I let things get out of control. I eat a very limited diet as it it (and pretty clean) but nothing beat the beef diet (with some eggs and avocado) for me too.
Can anyone confirm from the studies HOW the meat and dairy was consumed? There's a massive difference between meat eaters, who consume large amounts of sugar and processed foods (high carb, low quality meat, usually paired with seed oils), and carnivores who ONLY consume meat (low/zero carb, high quality meat). Can anyone confirm?
It's interesting, in Iceland they eat mostly meat, dairy, and fish and the men their have the third highest life expectancy in the world. They are a country where fruits and vegetables are not a staple of the diet traditionally. It's grains and sugars that are killing people, not meat. Humans have been eating meat for thousands of years, but now all of a sudden, it's deadly.
Not sure exactly how that argument goes as Man has also been dying for thousands of years. Also this type of inflammation affects man after reproductive age so should not bestow selective pressure.
I would like to know what % of the meatveaters also were heavy sugar/carb eaters, as sugar is inflammatory
I give you credit for keeping me from ever catching Sars Cov 2. I'm a Registered Nurse with extensive exposure early on yet I never got sick.
I do take your recommended list of supplements.
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My complaint about the "non-vegetarian" study is it does not differentiate someone who eats processed/fast foods from someone who avoids those foods or is on a paleo or keto diet.
Tell that to my grandma she ate meat cheese and bacon all her life she lived to be 107 years old. My girlfriend switched to a low carbohydrate meat and vegetable program and reversed her type 2 diabetes.
I changed from being vegetarian to eating plant-based organic high fiber, low fat, low protein, no sugar or processed foods or alcohol and use filtered water. My Oncologist is totally impressed, I have also eliminated many toxins from my environment and exercise. After nearly dying from Endometrial Cancer I am not cancer free and my recurrence risk is only 4% now, will become less as I lose more weight. I am in my mid seventies, and plan to live a long and purposeful life. If I can do it anyone can.
When will they examine sugar, seed oils and gmo flours? Also, he carefully avoided any actual stats.
For someone who's both parents died of Cancer, this is important to me.
Thank you 💚
I appreciate the level of science behind your videos. In depth enough that us laymen always learn something new without feeling lost in jargon.
My wife was placed on the"Ornish" diet after her cardiac stent. Not only has her cardiac function improved, but the psoriatic lesions on her arms have completely cleared after removing dairy from her diet. Thanks for the understandable presentation of this inflammation process.
It’s not in seafood or poultry though, but still need to make sure not to eat poultry fed lectin rich or genetically modified grains etc
I've seen other physicians who have reviewed these studies. One thing they consistently find is that there is no control for what else the "meat eating" subjects were eating. Someone on a vegan diet is likely to be more conscious of their overall diet and exercise routine, whereas a truck driver eating meat might have french fries with his cheeseburger.
Interesting. Here are some questions from a whole-food based omnivore who is very upset about the seeming war between the "plant-based" food and "animal-based" food adherents
1. BMI doesn't take into account body composition - what happens if you study people according to their percent of fat and lean muscle mass? Body fat is, afterall, highly inflammatory. And meat-eaters seem to be more interested in building muscles than non-meat eaters are. (An aside: the social movement towards reducing or eliminating meat consumption encourages the production of hyper-processed food-like substances that are very profitable).
2. "Vegetable" oils can be highly inflammatory ... is it meaningful to consider fats in animal-based foods in the same category - as one of the studies you refer to does?
3. It sounds like there is a lot of individual genetic variation production of antibodies against Neu5Gc. How does this express itself - how is it discovered?
4. Has the issue of Neu5Gc been studied comparing populations who have similarly healthy lifestyles (remembering again that BMI may not be a particularly important parameter)?
Oh great. I've done everything from fruitarian to carnivore. Now what do I eat?? Lol! When I went Carnivore I lost 20 pounds and was able to throw away both my anti-depressants and anti inflammatory pain relievers. Guess I'll die no matter what. Ug.
You are my heroes!!! If only more doctors stopped pushing drugs and started talking diet. I stopped eating red meat 12 years ago when I got a lupus diagnosis. I feel that a healthy diet helps me keep inflammation under control.
Whoever said "You are what you eat" probably didn't realized just how true they were.
Interesting. Curious if there were healthy or unhealthy user biases found in these studies - specifically refined sugar and carbohydrate intake which seem to also promote inflammation...
I love that you use food as medicine. I have been on a whole plant food diet for 6 years and my arthritis and osteoporosis has improved.
I was raised vegetarian and I have been aware of nutrition all my life.
I’m 66 & have no health problems & take no Rx meds.
Believe it or not, but I have lived it!
Well, I was an omnivore typical Asian-American. I switched to vegan at 52 thinking it would prolong my good health up to then and fit body. Well after two years I developed arthritis, then Lupus, and Hashimoto's Disease. My health condition dramatically deteriorated. You can read the rest in my post above yours.
What do you think of the keto diet? I had been a strict vegan, but it was getting to the point that every time I ate, I'd need a nap. Keto advocates insist this is due to insulin resistance due to the constant intake of sugars and carbs. I've been on the keto for over a month and I've lost 15 lbs. and I don't necessarily need sleep after eating. I'm 65, BTW, and in at least the 90th percentile of my age group with fitness. I suppose I could do keto vegan, but I'd probably keep eggs, i.e., very low-carb, veggies, and pea, hemp, egg protein. All in all, I don't doubt what you're saying here at all, it's just that once again, experts seem to be saying conflicting things. Alas. . . .
Damn, such a great breakdown. I’m going to show this to my AP Bio students to show them how various topics we’ve talked during the year are used in clinical science.
I would love to hear Dr. Seheult's opinion on TMAO and its association with CVD and T2D.
Thank you for the excellent review and some motivation to change our diets again. The idea that these are inflammation causing roots of disease may not be new, but learning the science behind it is interesting and enlightening. During and following a breast cancer treatment, I followed a diet that was mostly vegan and we have always cooked from fresh or frozen unprocessed foods for about 90% of our diet. My father insisted we always eat foods as close to their initial form since the 1960’s. We have found it difficult to cut red meat and pork out entirely, but I prefer that to developing metastatic BC or some other inflammatory disease! It would be interesting to know how much of a reduction in these foods vs an elimination of them would be advisable for a damage reversal and then ongoing diet. I.e.: At what threshold does red meat/processed meat and dairy consumption become problematic? Is once a week still too much? Is this the end of butter?! LOL. Glad I like oat milk, guess I’ll be learning how to make it!
Moderation. I'm always skeptical when the focus narrows to one thing. Too many factors, not enough empirical data
Have you looked at wheat and gluten inflammation? (Breads, pasta, pastries) These causes a lot of gut inflammation for a lot people.. For folks like me, so many vegetables causes issue as well. MSG is another inflammatory item.
What I tell people is keep your foods simple. 1 ingredient is a healthier choice. So many bakery goods are not good for you. Eat Whole Foods not process single serving items. If you look at a label and you can not tell what it is, that is not food. Chemicals in food is not food and if you need a degree in chemistry to know what it is that is not something you should eat.
I stick to my mostly meat diet because it is better for me. Meat is easier for me to digest and I don’t suffer as much with inflammation from certain veggies, and I avoid wheat.
Final note, food is cultural for most, but out body is not. We should eat what is best for your body. Some people do better on a vegan or paleo diet, others do better on a lower carb diet. Either of these diets should consist of trying to keep the diet simple. Manufactured food in a chemical planet is not food. I can not stress that enough. Having had colon surgery I hope to help others from having to go through the pain I did. Too much pasta, breads, and pastries causes a lot of inflammation in the gut. If people would cut them for a week, they would see a bigger improvement in their joints. Fruit for a snack or desert. Use a fork over bread. No spaghetti noodle, use a veggie instead.
Having Lupus and rheumatoid Arthritis, I know about inflammation. I also know the switching to a carnivore diet 8 months ago has relieved me of my suffering and I gave lost weight to boot. I eat meat, eggs, and hard cheeses, I cook with butter or lard and feel 20 years younger and generally healthier in all areas. I also went iff my Blood Pressure medication. While doing thing I kept my muscle mass instead of turning into a skinny, weak, girly man. Guess which diet I recommend
Loved this video-I also believe stress and unconscious emotional pain leads to inflammation as well.
Or it leads to self neglect. Whatever it is, stress is dangerous.
I have lots of respect to the Doctors here, but in this instance I don't agree. How can you explain various examples where people eating exclusively animal products, myself included actually lower the CRP ( my CRP was at 0.5 on keto and dropped further to 0.4 when I tried a diet mostly contain milk, eggs and meat). Besides, my health is 100% better now, compared to my health over 20 years ago when I was a vegetarian. I was as sick as a dog despite eating so much veggie and fruits, I got any illness around me, so much so that on average I need to take 6 months off work due to respiratory infections
Now, I am 20 years older eating less than 5% of diet as veggies, the rest is meat and animal products and I feel so much healthier. I haven't got any illness/ infection for the last 2 years. In winter, people around me are sick as dropping flies but I am still going strong. I don't believe that meat cause chronic inflammation, it is actually quite the opposite.
Really loved hearing about this timely study put in a way I can understand and it is concise. The best example I've seen for preventing certain health issues that I'm personally concerned about. Keep up the great work and many thanks!
I’m not finished with the video yet, but adding initial impressions at 8:30. The table is interesting. According to my understanding and clinical experience, the causes of inflammation are not monolithic. I’ve been inspired by traditional medical systems like a Chinese Medicine and Ayurveda to see a patient’s symptoms in constellation with one another. What emerges are different “climate patterns” that may cause a similar disease endpoint, for example IBS, but are very different in their holistic expression (body type, metabolism, other symptoms, even mood and personality tendencies).
High Gcemic index foods appear to exacerbate a “damp heat” type inflammation. This is opposed to a “damp cold” pattern, which also associated with systemic inflammation diseases. However, “damp cold” types tend to do worse with cow dairy, especially soft cheeses and milk, and do better with hard cheeses and especially goat and sheep cheeses.
“Dampness” is a descriptive term (meant to evoke images of swamps, compost piles, fermentation & dank moldy environments) that appears in part to describe states of intestinal dysbiosis, like candida overgrowth, yeast infections, etc, but also fluid retention, lymphatic congestion, and so on. “Damp heat” is sometimes a progression in severity of an originally “damp cold” state, and is generally characterized by more severe inflammatory symptoms like eczema, gout, and potentially cancers (though cancer has many potential patterns associated with causation).
Pondering how these traditional systems think about disease etiology, pathophysiology, and treatment strategy is very interesting and clinically useful. I try to see people through both lenses, modern scientific and traditional phenomenological - i can’t always reconcile the two, but it’s a useful second perspective.
You confirmed what Dr. Michael Greger has been saying for years. Thank you for presenting the study.
Hi Medcram. Do these studies successfully control for healthy & unhealthy user biases? Someone who is consciously choosing their diet (be it vegetarian, vegan, pescatarian, ovolactoid or whatever) is likely to be more health conscious in other ways. Meanwhile a red meat eater could be someone who eats McDonalds or equivalent junk every day, or it could be someone who is choosing organic, unprocessed meat 3x a week as part of a consciously healthy lifestyle. Our health expectations for these two would be radically different! Do these large scale epidemiological studies control for these important differences within groups?
Is there any differences between grass fed and genetically modified corn fed animals? Usually these anti red meat studies don't differentiate.
For starters, meat and poultry that has consumed green parts of the plants will have vitamin K in the meat to help take calcium from blood stream and put it into bone. Grain raised meat will have vitamin k absent in the meat. I expect in Ruminants the gut microbiota will be vastly different in these groups also.
Thank you for this. I would appreciate more nutrition centered videos like this. Very informative and there is a real need for trustworthy sources in this area. And thank you again for all the videos! Been following the channel for over a year now. Great work.
I'm glad to finally see an issue of Diet addressed comprehensively in regards to its role in Disease and Inflammation.👍
More of these, please!👍👍👍👍
Long time no see you. We miss you. Please, don't leave us unnoticed. Fabulous as always.
I started eating a whole-food plant-based diet in 2006 and have never felt better. I supplement daily with B12 and D3
Finding a contributing cause of inflammation is exceptional. More so that it is dietary, and so accessible for mediation by anyone through simple dietary alteration.
The problem I have with these studies is food isn't just one thing. Food has many things in it. It is like saying fruit is bad because fruit has sugar in it. Or vegetables are bad because vegetables are full of nitrates. Sure sugar us inflammatory, but fruit is not just sugar. Meat and dairy are full of nutrients too.
My Dad is 91, loves his cookies and big bowl of Ice Cream every night.
He has no chronic pains and still plays golf 3X a week in season. Reads voraciously a book a week.
Has 2 scotchs every night w/cheese, salami and crackers. Doesn’t smoke & never gets sick!
Told him he should write a diet book 🤣.
Genetics are important I guess, both his parents made it to late 80’s. Both smoked & drank.
I’m also curious about grass fed animal products. I’ve heard that grass fed beef and bison meat are much higher in omega 3 vs omega 6 & 9, the latter being possibly more inflammatory?
So interesting that goat and sheep cheese is higher in N5gc.
I’ve been drinking goat milk ever since my acupuncturist essentially said that goat milk should be less inflammatory than cow dairy?
Based on digestion?
Btw, I discovered MedCram during covid and your unbiased science analysis is so helpful! I’ve shared MedCram with many as a highly informative and reliable resource!
Thank You for your invaluable public service!!! ✨🙏✨💜✨
I’m not aware of how they are being fed might influence the amount of Neu5GC.
Is there any difference if the animal is grass fed instead of grain fed?
It shouldn’t. The species that can make Neu5GC will do so regardless of what they are fed.
This is by far the most useful medical/health channel on RUclips. Thank you for all your posts!
This topic is outside my knowledge base, but you make it quite understandable, Dr S. Very clear and to the point! Thx so much!
Interesting, but then how do we explain the High burden of diabetes and cvd in India (vegetarian)?
All those people are eating carbs along with the meat! How about doing the same research for people on low carb diet or Keto?
Strange, my wife doesnt eat red meat or dairy and has been suffering with inflammation for years. I eat almost all red meat and all other meats including organs and went from 380 lbs to 218 lbs and have never felt better. I am 45 years old and havent been this weight since 1990, my freshman year in high school.
Thankyou for much needed update in knowledge..... Dr Roger Seheult is A LEGEND !
Avoid meat & diary products when my eczema flare up. Its really help reduce the inflamation. Thx for the explanation. I did that before never know the reason.
Can you please create a video addressing this in correlation with the Keto Diet please? I don't want to start Keto if I'd be eliminating one problem but creating another. Thank you.
I like how Kyle always has great questions as if it wasn't planned.
Reminds me of the Byron Allen Show.
*edit: I'm not trying to be negative - just niche funny. I am very grateful for all the work you guys are doing. Found you in ~March of 2020 and am a big fan. Thanks guys.
One question. Are these studies done, which take into account meat, with any light shed on consumption of PUFAs and amount of Carbs ingested by these individuals? Anything about Exercise and Sleep patterns? Anything regarding the food containers whether they were made of plastic with BPA etc etc. Anything about the levels of Vitamin D, Magnesium and ingestion of Vit K2.
It's not one thing that determines your amount of Inflammation. I'm just saying.
I would love the good doctor to shed some light on that.
PS. Sorry for saying one question and asking many :)
All of these confounding variable‘s are difficult to control for but are attempted. The new research seems to correlate for the first time in humans the amount of dietary Salic acid with the amount of antibodies against that Salic acid. This is been a link that has been missing for sometime.
My plastic surgeon's nurse told me to eat 3 to 4 oz / day of red meat prior and post surgery to help a flap procedure on my nose. Note: I have hemochromatosis. Thoughts? Also, I was asked to discontinue D3 (6000 UI/day) , Zinc and Quercitin 2 weeks prior to surgery -- I take these as a prophylaxis against Covid.
Extremely informative I appreciate your clarity on this subject something I must make adjustments in my dietary regimen.Any suggestions on what to substitute for meats as far as a protein source yet have the benefits as a meat diet ie iron and B12 acquisition,if not then supplementation with a vegan protein source.Thank you for your dedication to the health and welfare for millions of people and your patients 😊
Grass-fed meats and dairy (Inc raw) can be credited for healing many people's health. As typical today, animal is being blamed for health problems, a food that's been around since time began. On the other hand, modern-day "foods" like vegetable oils and sugar, are quietly ignored in studies as the actual cause behind Inflammation, metabolic syndrome, mitochondrial dysfunction, illnesses, etc. Also glaring by its absence in research are the 85,000 manmade chemicals in our world today!
This was so enlightening! Thank you for sharing 💗
The study needs more in depth information, either the people in the study have unhealthy habits, how often they consume cruciferous vegetables?what type of meat and dairy are their consumption? Do their vitamin D levels are optum? Do their levels of vitamins C are good? How is tge level of B12,B9, B6?? HOW IS the selenium and zinc levels? Do they consume bitter greens? Do they consume mostly refined oils?? Do they consume a lot of gluten and refined sugars? Do they have parasites? Only with those observations been considered in the sturdy I would trust the study
This is the worst Medcram of an otherwise excellent series. I can only guess it is biased by the anti-cow, global warming mind set that is now popular. Most people are overweight and are overdosing in all foods. Red meat is one of them. Blaming meat and dairy for diabetes with no comment on the obviously very common overdosing of sugar & other carbs seems a stretch. Likewise with cardio problems. Meat & dairy actually slow the digestion of carbs for a positive effect on diabetes incidence and fat production. And the actual charts show it is goat milk that is far worse than cow milk.
I am a little skeptical on this video (on some points). If I recall correctly, Dr. Esselstyn did several interventions to his patients, including an exercise program. It wasn't just diet. Also, his diet regimen was so strict, that some dropped out of research (i.e. they didn't find it sustainable). Furthermore, when most people say they eat meat, they usually mean junk food... a burger with fries and coke is classified as "meat".
I believe only 1 person in his cohort dropped out and had further cardiac events and the others did not.I am not aware of angiographic studies that have shown the degree of reversal in exercise only.
Cut out the sugar. Get rid of your insulin resistance. Get off the insulin and diabetic meds. We need protein and fat in our diets....we do not need carbs to survive, except to feed our sugar addiction
Most of us on a western diet can afford to cut back on red and processed meat granted, not convinced that traditional dairy products (as opposed to ultra processed) is bad, IMO the good from dairy (beneficial microbes, nutrients) outweigh the bad (autoimmunity/inflammation, Sialic acid link? ). French people eat large amounts of dairy, especially cheese and rank as some of the healthiest according to Tim Spector.
Majority of us disagree.
Rafined carbs, constantly elevated insulin and unhealthy oils are inflamers and killers.
Meat has bad sides, but is negligable compared to real killers.
I used to be able to eat red meat and pork all my life till I had my gallbladder removed. Had it removed in 2007. Since that surgery my body will not process the red meat or pork. After 30 mins to an hour I vomit it all back up, and after I feel lousy for about a day. I haven't eaten either in well over a decade.
This is one of the best videos supporting a vegan or WFPB dietary eating plan. Thank you for the great analysis and targeted explanation. Let’s get these studies to other medical doctors…
Wouldn't exposure to animal products early in life allow for the recognition of Neu5Gc as non-foreign, preventing adaptive immunity against it? How have humans evolved on diets of meat and still thrived with life long inflammation?
Perhaps the chronic inflammation of coronary artery disease affects humans long after reproductive age and therefore would not cause environmental pressure for survival.
Glad to see some new content from Medcram giving me new insights into the pandemic.
This will be very interesting to follow as further info is released. Thank you for talking about this.
Nice to see you sir roger seheult 💞💞 always enjoyed your lectures and way of teaching 👍
Very interesting. I’ll be awaiting the results of ongoing studies.
This is great work. I'm a bit sceptical, 6mins in where the study shown states, "likely contributing to". Not underlined. More research needed to prove this hypothesis. Also most of the studies presented, have links to 7th day Adventist supported bodies.
Just the Adventist Health Study which is no surprise since it was sponsored by them. The Neu5GC studies where from Israel and UCSD in addition to others.
A heck of a stretch to connect covid 19 complications to Neu5Gc, but the general take home of Neu5Gc that limiting intake may be beneficial for reducing chronic inflammation. As always, there is no free lunch in human biology and nutrition.
I want to know what the other parts of the diets were also. Because I know they weren't just eating the two types of meat in that huge study. Were they avoiding pasta /bread carbs by eating lots of veggies ? Was any group eating more seafood with omega 3's.
Brilliant talk as always, thank you!
I'm so glad I went whole-food, plant-based nearly eight years ago.
thanks Dr. Seheult, its very
informative. I never heard
Neu5Gc, as well as Sialic Acids.
Appreciate all this medical lectures . Hope to hear from
your future videos.
I'm so grateful for super smart people like Dr. Roger. And even more so his ability to so clearly explain these findings. Great inspiration here to stick to my diet-- thank you!
I don't eat meats, I have diabetes and am anemic and have Heart disease /heart failure, full of arthritis with inflammation. Have Ulcerative colitis so what do I eat?Not much. Only vegetables I like are peas carrots.
Dr. Seheult, this is excellent. Your videos are outstanding. I was so curious about one thing as I watched this one. What role does a combination of the SAME levels of meat consumption play when coupled with regular exercising to maintain a healthy BMI?
Fascinating talk Dr. Seheult! My family is ovo-lacto-vegetarian and I am in particular an adult woman that suffers from severe acne. My acne has improved about 95% after I stop consuming milk and yogurt. From my experience I can attest that even "organic" milk, yogurt and cheese cause SEVERE INFLAMMATION on my face (acne cysts, postules, nodules, etc)! . I agree with the latest research in that the BEST AVAILABLE diet for humans is a Vegan diet. My hope is to become a vegan if I am able to stop consuming cheese.. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You are a phenomenal teacher! ❤️🙏
Stopped eating corpses at 18, stopped consuming maternal milk products at 19. 33 and thriving. What’s taking everyone else so long? How long does it take to figure out the proper fuel for human bodies? Gettin rid of cooked foods now.
I want to do keto with good fats no grains no salt and only poultry eggs and fish for protein because I have severe inflammation and autoimmune diseases. I don’t eat any thing processed for years. I think you guys are wrong to say to take away the good fats. We need those for our brains especially after covid and if you have MS like me.
This may be totally irrelevant but when I stopped eating all meat about 30 yrs ago, I noticed after the first year the I didn't get the cold sores I would get every single year, sometimes more than once. No double blind experiment, but I am convinced of the connection.
Vegetarian last 5 years. Also no alcohol no process sugars 1 year
I never fully understood why red meat was linked with illnesses. Increased inflammation caused by red meat and certain dairy products is the answer. Furthermore, some types of meat and dairy products have more and others less of the inflammatory agent. Good news is that fish and eggs contain none of it. This video greatly enhanced my understanding of how to eat to avoid disease. It is a treasure. Thank you!
Fascinating. I started on a Esselstyn type plant based diet last August to lower a stubbornly high cholestrol. Worked a charm. The more I learn,the happier I am that I made the healthier choice to eliminate animal products from my diet.
Keep up the great work Dr Seheult and team.The info you diffuse is well appreciated
Why aren't there studies on sugar and seed oils intake?
i am sitting here eating bacon ... you blow my mind with new fascinating info thank you from Canada
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for the straight-forward explanation of why eating other mammals can increase our inflammatory responses. I always wondered about it.
My doctor says for diabetes and Corona only the cause is glucose. Cut down all fruit s sugar milk products and eat more nonveg. Please guide me.
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fascinating information, everything we understand brings new questions, thank you
been looking for this lecture for along time
Fantastic explanations for people with no scientific research background to understand it little bit. Thank you
Glad that I became a vegan after a heart attack a year ago. This finding confirmed one more time that excessive animal meats is bad for us!
Ok, so I really need to know. I have often thought that animals humanely and truly pasture raised would be a better source of food than GMO veggies and fruits. At the same time we hear so many saying it’s not the meat, it’s the sugar. Has anyone looked at this in families who mostly eat local pasture raised eggs and meats from animals who are not in cages, not in dark barns with wall to wall chickens, and are outside whenever they want. Has anyone looked at it?
Very Interesting:
1. As noted about 'Bovine Serum', this probably accounts for some of the side-effects that standard Vaccines have been presenting for the past ~40 years, regarding systemic inflammation & lupus-like effects.
2. I thrive off of meat, but I have often noticed that, when I am feeling a little "off", my gums get irritated after eating Beef... and I feel strange after eating Pork and Chicken... though this rarely happens with Lamb, Goat, Turkey, or Fish. I have scoured the internet searching for why this might be, and this Sialic Acid may be part of the answer.
I wonder if any causative association can be established with the irritation presented by this molecule and the principles of Peter D'Adamo's "Blood Type Diet" theory. Might be work looking into.
I shifted to keto and my BMI now is 22 from 30