Love that Campy use thumb shifters. I much prefer them to numb feeling STI or dont shift near pot holes double tap. It's all personal preference I know, and Campy is mine....when I can afford it.
For some perspective here: I have been into serious cycling since about 1965. I was a poor white kid growing up in a working-class neighborhood in the USA and in those days if you rode a bike as a teenager, many of the other kids were made fun of you. However, when I was 13 years old I saw what I thought was an old man ride up to a busy intersection and he did the track standing thing on a Schwinn Paramount track bike. I didn't call it that back then. Anyway, he had calves about the size of a cantaloupe and when the traffic cleared he sprinted across the street like a bullet! I was hooked! Too short to play basketball, too light to play football and was not interested in baseball. So we started training in one of the local parks that had a track in it and we started to enter some local races and me and my friends cleaned out about every trophy at every event. Moved to California in the late 60s and was not able to afford CAMPAGNOLO until around 1970 or 71 when I got a job at a bike shop as a mechanic and was able to purchase the equipment for cost. I still have a set of CAMPAGNOLO Super Leggera Road pedals that have been severely crashed on at least twice. The bearings are still that's smooth as the day they came out of the factory. I still ride CAMPAGNOLO to this day on my Gio's Torino Pro. Shimano might have the edge on technology, but nothing will ever Outlast campagnolo equipment. When I worked outside as an inspector in the field, I found a thrift store that would occasionally have some interesting used bikes. There was a very basic Atala road bike I picked up for the cheap. It had CAMPAGNOLO Tipo hubs. Bike was covered with weeds and spider webs from sitting outside for many years. Stripped the bike down and when I got it cleaned up, the bearings were actually perfectly smooth! From a bike that was at least fifty years old and sat outside. Oh, I admit it I am a Campagnolo snob!
@@roadcc I mistakenly thought this video was released this year. Then I wonder why F10 was not included in the list. My question does not mean that F10 must have been included in the list though.
Well the list only has six places so something always has to miss out and as you could probably see by the comments, we always get it wrong 😅We also never had the F10 in for review and we try to only include products we have tested
I'm a Shimano fanboy. SRAM feels cheap and Campy doesn't seem to get much support in the US market mostly due to Campy not making an effort to be recognized. Still, I'm one of those who thinks that a truly Italian steed should be adorned in Campy components. Anything else on an Italian bike is just blasphemy, IMO. I also like the fact that Campy chains don't need to be replaced as often as Shimano and SRAM chains. Plus, it's beautiful.
xetexuk12 Not really understanding. I like Campy. I just think that they don't make much effort to market here. Most of their issue, in general, is they aren't prevalent enough in the OEM market. When I started racing back in the 80's, Campy was the thing to have. Everyone wanted it because it was good stuff. Every shop had at least a few Campy bikes. Today, they are even better, But you'd be hard pressed to find a Campy bike. People perceive it as being too expensive, because when you see an off the shelf bike with Campy, it's usually has a 5-figure price tag. The reality is that it's not really anymore expensive than Shimano or SRAM
Given how the top tube/seat tube/set stay intersection looks like, the Estrella comes from the same mould as Canyon's frames. And why no single mention of the specific features of Campagnolo groupsets? Isn't this what the video shouls be about?
@@krane15 Ouch, that makes me obsolete as well, just say it...."OK BOOMER!" Now that we got that over, I maintain that these new bikes are souless, grey clones with no art value at all. Even the attempts at color suck, the lines in these things are horrible. Give me stamped lugs and chromevato any day to this.
I m fun of Italian stuffs but i m not happy about my choice that i build my bianchi bike with full campagnolo chorus. The only good is that change to down 3 gears with one click and nothing else. My e-x bike with shimano ultegra was more super. More shoft more stronger more better and eysiest in race or hard training...
I don't think you're alone in preferring Shimano. I haven't asked people in the office their preference but I'm sure a few of them do prefer Shimano Ultegra but that might also be down to the fact that it's more common
he says campaghnolo and uses campag as shortcut. it is pronounced campa(g)nolo with a silent g and it would make more sense to use the short form campa
All that unneccesary chatter about the VERY average Taiwan-built Bianchi, and only a few sentences about the BRILLIANT Colnago, the most Italian bike here, eh? The De Rosa got more coverage, and that's not made in Italy.
Love that Campy use thumb shifters. I much prefer them to numb feeling STI or dont shift near pot holes double tap. It's all personal preference I know, and Campy is mine....when I can afford it.
Love my Campagnolo Chorus group set :-)
For some perspective here: I have been into serious cycling since about 1965. I was a poor white kid growing up in a working-class neighborhood in the USA and in those days if you rode a bike as a teenager, many of the other kids were made fun of you. However, when I was 13 years old I saw what I thought was an old man ride up to a busy intersection and he did the track standing thing on a Schwinn Paramount track bike. I didn't call it that back then. Anyway, he had calves about the size of a cantaloupe and when the traffic cleared he sprinted across the street like a bullet! I was hooked! Too short to play basketball, too light to play football and was not interested in baseball. So we started training in one of the local parks that had a track in it and we started to enter some local races and me and my friends cleaned out about every trophy at every event. Moved to California in the late 60s and was not able to afford CAMPAGNOLO until around 1970 or 71 when I got a job at a bike shop as a mechanic and was able to purchase the equipment for cost. I still have a set of CAMPAGNOLO Super Leggera Road pedals that have been severely crashed on at least twice. The bearings are still that's smooth as the day they came out of the factory. I still ride CAMPAGNOLO to this day on my Gio's Torino Pro. Shimano might have the edge on technology, but nothing will ever Outlast campagnolo equipment. When I worked outside as an inspector in the field, I found a thrift store that would occasionally have some interesting used bikes. There was a very basic Atala road bike I picked up for the cheap. It had CAMPAGNOLO Tipo hubs. Bike was covered with weeds and spider webs from sitting outside for many years. Stripped the bike down and when I got it cleaned up, the bearings were actually perfectly smooth! From a bike that was at least fifty years old and sat outside. Oh, I admit it I am a Campagnolo snob!
I have both the C59 and M10 using 7900 Dura-Ace. I know there are some who will say this is blasphemy. Both ride and handle great.
i've been racing since the 70's and all there was campagnolo, its the best bar none!!!
it’s a nice bianchi xr4, but I am wondering: whether you get the opposite position of your front wheel on the bora ultra?😃
The Estrella's typography really needs a restyling, isn't it? Basso bikes are lovely in every and each way, dream bike, for sure.
Arthur Maas I wouldn’t stop at the typography, that whole thing was made for Stevie Wonder’s eyes...
Why is Pinarello Dogma F12 not included in the list?
Because it didn't exist when the video was released...
@@roadcc I mistakenly thought this video was released this year. Then I wonder why F10 was not included in the list. My question does not mean that F10 must have been included in the list though.
Well the list only has six places so something always has to miss out and as you could probably see by the comments, we always get it wrong 😅We also never had the F10 in for review and we try to only include products we have tested
@@roadcc Thank you for your answer.
No worries
You forget to say that ”they have soul” and same folks say that shimano is for fishing. That heard😙😁🤗
I'm a Shimano fanboy. SRAM feels cheap and Campy doesn't seem to get much support in the US market mostly due to Campy not making an effort to be recognized. Still, I'm one of those who thinks that a truly Italian steed should be adorned in Campy components. Anything else on an Italian bike is just blasphemy, IMO. I also like the fact that Campy chains don't need to be replaced as often as Shimano and SRAM chains. Plus, it's beautiful.
Here we go, 'campy' again ... groan ..... such an americanism
xetexuk12 Not really understanding. I like Campy. I just think that they don't make much effort to market here. Most of their issue, in general, is they aren't prevalent enough in the OEM market. When I started racing back in the 80's, Campy was the thing to have. Everyone wanted it because it was good stuff. Every shop had at least a few Campy bikes. Today, they are even better, But you'd be hard pressed to find a Campy bike. People perceive it as being too expensive, because when you see an off the shelf bike with Campy, it's usually has a 5-figure price tag. The reality is that it's not really anymore expensive than Shimano or SRAM
How about the flip side of American bikes (like Trek). Do you think campagnolo suit them or should it be shimano or sram?
well said@@terbennett
Given how the top tube/seat tube/set stay intersection looks like, the Estrella comes from the same mould as Canyon's frames. And why no single mention of the specific features of Campagnolo groupsets? Isn't this what the video shouls be about?
It's undoobably reddish/orange on fire. Is that a color?
Definitely orange mate.
No steel bike? There's nothing more traditional then a steel bike with a campy groupset
I can't remember the last steel bike that we had in that was built with Campag
My I should have said nothing more hipster ;)
Steel is real but like wood, also obsolete as a bike material.
@@krane15 Ouch, that makes me obsolete as well, just say it...."OK BOOMER!" Now that we got that over, I maintain that these new bikes are souless, grey clones with no art value at all. Even the attempts at color suck, the lines in these things are horrible. Give me stamped lugs and chromevato any day to this.
@@krane15 Turns out you were wrong. Steel is on the increase, and carbon isn't reputable.
How are carbon bikes ‘hand built’? Anybody got a video or explanation?
generally all the carbon is laid up into the mould by hand
The bianchi look good
... looks* good.*
You know what they say. Shimano wears out, Campag wears in..
The color of the Tifosi is orange-red, I think (hex code: #FF5944).
I knew someone would be ultra specific 😉
I m fun of Italian stuffs but i m not happy about my choice that i build my bianchi bike with full campagnolo chorus. The only good is that change to down 3 gears with one click and nothing else. My e-x bike with shimano ultegra was more super. More shoft more stronger more better and eysiest in race or hard training...
I don't think you're alone in preferring Shimano. I haven't asked people in the office their preference but I'm sure a few of them do prefer Shimano Ultegra but that might also be down to the fact that it's more common
I'm fond* of Italian stuff* ... softer*, stronger*, better* ("more better" -seriously?! better = "more" good), easiest* ...
Campagnolo stuff used to be a work of art! I just find them ugly now
That new Campy chainset looks like a knock off Shimano crank to me. Functional, but lacking style.
No Campag no party
he says campaghnolo and uses campag as shortcut. it is pronounced campa(g)nolo with a silent g and it would make more sense to use the short form campa
Tifosi.... orange to me.
My 84 Paramount with SR is the best, none of these modern sharts
Pretty sure we haven't reviewed one of those so couldn't possibly compare 😀
All that unneccesary chatter about the VERY average Taiwan-built Bianchi, and only a few sentences about the BRILLIANT Colnago, the most Italian bike here, eh? The De Rosa got more coverage, and that's not made in Italy.
No one cares about campag!
A+ for enthusiasm mate, and there's no harm in being wrong.
Funny tho eh?
You're garbage!
I do!!
Then why are you watching?