Cat Delete Crown Vic VS Muffler Delete Crown Vic! Which Exhaust Setup is Right For You!?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- if youre considering cutting off your mufflers or removing your cats, then this is the video for you!
its amazing how a $30 saw and a few hours can produce such an amazing sounding car, peoples jaws usually hit the floor when you pass by them and theyre thinking its a mustang and then they see an old crown vic. its priceless! 
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4:58 muffler delete
6:51 cat delete
Thanks, got annoyed listening to him be annoying.
@@Jonboy997 it’s his video he can do/say whatever the hell he wants lmao
@@reggieh.4158 it's a public comment section, I can say he's annoying 🤷🏻♂️
@@reggieh.4158 I never said he couldn't be annoying. Good job being offended for someone else.
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Crown Vic w/muffler delete = Shelby 500 Cobra
Crown Vic w/ Cat. delete = 1960s muscle car
My 2009 crown vic with mufflers deleted I bought two weeks ago really rumbles and roars almost like an old muscle car. I think it took away some of torc for stop and go city driving, but you know it runs good starting right up without pressing gas pedal, idling consistently, smooth sound when you open the hood to listen to engine, and not hesitating when you step into it.
@@TUBESPECIFIC1 Aw man, if you REALLY want to get serious and piss people off in your neighborhood, X-pipe and dual cherry bombs or flowmaster 40s
@@wontondragon7139 Wow, that would rumble loud like a gigantic motorized farting machine. You can have anything like that in the city, but probably not a small town. Lots of people in the metro I live in have really loud exhaust going on for I hear it all the time every day and evening. Mine is nothing close to being the loudest, but could catch flak in a small town, particularly in the Midwest such as Missouri if I go there.
@@wontondragon7139 muffler delete is louder than flow master 40s. Flowmasters are still mufflers and do muffle sound
What about both?!
If you can’t decide which mod to do, just do both!
I wanth to do both!
Exactly right
Can't do both :P
Because Rhode Island inspection/emissions
@@IAG-Co-Ltd its a true dual so you can do both
Maybe he could afford an exhaust system if he stopped buying so many crown vics😂
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Better than buying stocks turbo vic's get decent money
Muffler delete for everyday use
Cat for show/racing
Now I do agree with stock exhaust just a cat delete with stock exhaust makes it sound like an old muscle car
I don't agree there, my friend has an 08' CVPI and he did that to it but it doesn't sound like an old muscle car, you can't beat the sound of an old pushrod engine and I know bc i drive a 73' Fury, his car does sound really good though
@@camdenr2906 you can get close tho with cams
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life John 3 :16
Mine has all 4 cats deleted with stock mufflers. It sounds basically stock at idle. It has a weird drone during normal acceleration. It sounds pretty good at wide open throttle. I am watching all of these old videos trying to decide what I want to do to it. I am torn between replacing the stock mufflers with either straight pipes or glass packs, or possibly just putting glass packs before the stock mufflers to try to get rid of the drone.
Also, to get rid of the check engine light, I used the spark plug non-fouler trick. Since I didnt have the bungs for the O2 sensors anymore, I got a friend to drill into the pipes and just weld the inner non-fouler in to use as a bung. It worked perfect. I've driven it about 6,000 miles since, still no check engine light.
When I was 16 or 17 I just undid the bolts on the flanges after the cats on my 95 Grand Marquis. Sounded like a absolute beast!
@Ford Fanatic drones like a fuckin race car 🤣 i remember cutting off the pipes right under the driver seat, my fuckin ears would be ringing goin on the highway but man was that shit fun lol
If you got the bolts well nut off the flanges you got lucky almost impossible without impact
@@treykashflow6183 If I remember correctly I used a angle grinder and just bought new bolts to put it on.
I did as well, I was able to put my foot down and drown out my ex-wifes complaining...
Mr. Random literally delivers THE BEST content. Never uploads a video that I’m not completely interested in! Keep on keepin on!
that means alot to me man thank you
Im installing flow master outlaws with a x pipe with a cat delete on my 92 Grand Marquis sounds like a mustang now i’ll upload a rev & fly by
Yes
It is a mustang engine 😂
You're making me have a new found love for Crown Victoria
Jeffery McDonald the best cars ive owned like 3 and will own more
I love my crown victoria P71 the 98-04 had lower HP than the 05-11 but it wasn’t electric throttle body so you can hook up basically all the mustang GT parts of the same year
@@RoGuExPaNcAkE Mustang GT parts of the same year will fit a Crown Vic? That's kind of interesting where a hybrid car could be developed or a budget GT that isn't as styling. I'm on my 3rd Crown Vic and see them as one of the best American made from a mechanical and heavy workhorse perspective making it a truck with a car body though quite a bit better than the Ranger. 2012 is the last year for them, but they'll be around a while longer. The first two I had still ran good when I sold them. A 91 and a 98. It's a bit nicer people don't think it's a cop as much now as they used to upon seeing it for LEO's use several other different cars and trucks now. This one I bought recently is a 2009 old TSA K9 airport dog carrier so it doesn't have backseat. Going to remove cage parts in windows to just have the flat hard floor in back. Hard to see out for backing, but has camera and in dash video screen.
If it's not an actual cold start it's just a start lol
Back to the horse.
Back when i drove my p71 i put some washers between the mufflers and rode around like the baddest mf till i sold her
Itz_Clemii where did you place the washers exactly?
he puts multiple washers stacked up between the muffler and the pipe, makes a gap in the exhaust which makes it louder.
But people in Pennsylvania do it anyways
Holy shit that made me laugh so hard. I love that you left that in I hope that's your old lady filming
My next car is deff gonna be a crown Vic
Killer Whale sounds badass
It's even better in person.
Little confused on the muffler delete affecting emissions. I've owned 3 cars all with muffler deletes at some point and I've done muffler deletes on 5 cars in total, never affected emissions once.
Mine passed emission test with mufflers deleted. They hook a computer cable under the dash now where as years ago it was a tailpipe funnel cone smoke reader test really hard for anything mufflers deleted or old to pass. I guess the emissions test today reads how the motor is running and not what's coming out the tail pipes so you pass if it's running well.
You won't throw a CEL, but up here in NY, it's a visual and sound check. If they see or hear a delete, they can fail you. Shitty, especially when a delete on these cars is fairly quiet
I did a muffler delete on mine (2011). Sounded decent, but I regretted it and had to have somebody weld the mufflers back on lol.
Why, too loud for you?? lol..
@@P71ScrewHead Mhmm.. car already sticks out like a sore thumb to leo..I don't need anymore attention.
@@wantsanewvehiclei just noticed your name, funny, nice name.. lol I know what you mean, literally does stick out, its so long.. I love mine tho, gonna put long tube headers, hi-flow cats, electric cutouts, n to stock exhaust out back so its not too loud when my moms is riding with me.. She don't like loud muscular sound..lol
@@P71ScrewHead Cool good luck :)
@@wantsanewvehicle thank you bro, God bless..
I bought a P71 a while ago from a dealership that dis a cat delete, and that thing sounded wicked. When I downshifted, it had more pops and crackles than most factory turbocharged engines with a full straight pipe.
should of done a before and after sound test,
Oye great to see another cubanito. I had a ford focus and had to do a volutary repo due to the problematic power shift. Was looking into a cheap reliable car that i could massage a bit into a sleeper. Thanks for the vid.
Killer whale is the best sound. I had some bassani mufflers on my 11 p7b and also had the rear cats deleted. It was a monster
Bassanis with xpipe is the best sounding thing on 2v cars
@@PhxBullyTeam l like the off road H-PIPE better
*Please do a before and after 4.10s video in one of these cars* 🙏
Please do a two-step system on one of these cars I want to see how it's done and how it sounds
Robert Frickey why would you do two step on one of these?
I think the Killer Whale sounds slightly better than the HoboCop.
I love the sound of a small V8 with modified exhaust. They ALWAYS sound angry.
My P71 is rotting away, and will eventually become parts for my slightly older Grand Marquis. I'm keeping the CV in good mechanical condition so everything will be usable when a door finally falls off.
The first thing that will be used is the suspension. That'll change the Mercury's whole attitude on the curves. Although I have to say that for a luxury car, the Merc does handle better than most older 2 ton cars.
But the P71 handles better than some sports cars that I've driven.
And they're both completely stable near a crowd, unlike a Mustang.
If I were to switch to a manual transmission, what would you recommend, and can I reprogram the engine computer for it, or do I need to switch computers as well?
A muffler delete won't fail emissions as far as I know. All they do is muffle the sound. It doesn't remove pollutants
and does the check engine light come on with a moffler delete?
@@Sully9549 no it shouldn't
My marauder has the muffler delete and the idle was awesome but highway drone was terrible. I love the killer whale cat delete!!! Sounds great.
Does the cat delete have drone as well or does the muffler take care of most of it?
I’m actually considering a muffler swap with some $25 JEGS glasspacks.
I'd love to own a Panther car, hopefully one that isn't a retired cop car or limo/taxi those engines have a lot of idling hours on them which are not reflected on the odometer. Something like the Mercury Grand Marquis with a Borla catback system and a touch of pinstriping.
Just got a grand marquis today 500$ minor body damage and only 100k miles
Me personally have a cat delete and connected a Y pip to it and get it 4 inches after the two pipes connect and it sounds very clean and still has bottom end torque
Can't say "freight" but the southern / Texas twang accent is spot on 👌 haha nice!
My heart sez mufflers delete, my groin sez rear cats delete...simply put, my 96 MGM is not subject to inspection in my Canadian province, so two questions...which of the the two is more personally enjoyable for you? from a daily driver city point of view? 2nd, which would you pick if you had to do a highway “drone” once a month at 70mph for 10 hours? I look forward to your thoughts...
Haha! Nice! That horse was like “255 horses? Meh! Ima just gonna stand here all un impressed!
I did the muffler delete to my crown Victoria and damn it sounds sweet!
Did u weld pipe back on to the rear end?
Did u ?
Wait so does removing the rear cats make it slower or faster, and which one is louder, rear cats or muffler?
So one car has a muffler delete only, and the other has the secondary cats and mufflers deleted?
My favorite of the 2, if you leave the 4.6 stock or almost stock, is the muffler delete.
Favorite overall, is the Town Car with the factory tailpipe resonators. And instead of a muffler delete, use Dynomax Bullets, so all together it makes a super deep, toned sound and no drone at all. You can cruise all day on the highway at any speed and you'll barely hear it.
Speaking from experience? That’s the exact system I was thinking of going with on my 03 town car
@@ryanlambert1710 I had a Town Car with single exhaust that I converted to duals and the tailpipes I bought didn't have the resonators like the stock ones did, so mine was just pipe after the stock cats. It was pretty loud and aggressive, not bad enough that I needed mufflers but the sound didn't fit a luxury car (a fairy slow one anyways). I never ran any mufflers/resonators on mine but I imagine they would've just made it deeper and less raspy.
If you don't have stock tailpipe resonators, I think a good muffler like a Magnaflow Magnapack (or something similar) would achieve the same affect.
That said, the rear cat delete would sound much better with a real muffler, not just straight pipes after.
Why not both🤷🏻♂️
How about removing all 4 cats and delete the muffler but keep the stock exhaust pipe size
Removing all 4 cats not good. It will smell very bad
Complete straight pipe with 2" exhaust pipe will be loud and crackly, not that good of a tone. You'd need some mufflers like short Magnaflows for a deep, toned sound.
Did you put straight pipe in where the cats go?
Or if you want a proper running car, and have a first Gen crown vic lx luxury cruiser. You could always keep in nice sounding and looking with a proper exhaust. You can get the kits for better flowing cats, and mufflers for cheaper. But all this will do. Is screw with the efi. And lead to premature permanent limp mode. And as you can see, his check engine lights appear to be on as the engine isn't reading proper back pressure from the proper exhaust.
Killer Whale sounds better. I made my Lincoln Town Car duel exaust and put Flowmaster mufflers on it. Sounds mean now.
The Town Car 4.6 has resonators in the factory tailpipes. So it's not quite as loud as a Crown Vic/Grand Marquis with a muffler delete.
I think a Town Car with the stock exhaust and Dynomax Bullets sounds fantastic. The Bullets are like high flow, high quality glasspacks or resonators. So with 4 cats, and basically 4 resonators, it has a real deep, toned sound. Deep and quiet at idle and cruising, but gets loud at full throttle.
I have a 2005 P71 ....... Muffler Delete or Flowmaster 44s?
GaugezPup definitely get flow master super 10s. 44s are still quiet. And delete your resanator
I did this yesterday to my 07 Crown Vic and the check engine light has been on ever since.
Should of just gutted the cats
Did u chop off the rear o2 sensor as well? Or cut it off too close to the sensor?
Brandon Markowitz I did cut pretty close to the sensor. Maybe that’s why it’s still on.
i see you have that airbag beep also, would love to see a video on how to fix it, i cant really find anything on it
I live in Atlanta Georgia and I have straight pipes
How u passing emissions
I live in Arizona and my car is registered up north where I don’t have to do emissions. So my question is what if I cut the cats and keep the stock muffler what would that sound like or how would it effect the car or what do you recommend? I’ve got a 2001 grand marquis. 4.6 2v obviously. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.
*laughs in sbc 400 with full long tube headers and straight dumps out the fender
I was getting excited to do my crown Victoria just like that. but
when you mention California. I said damm
I am in a place where my cats are bad on my 2010 Lincoln Town Car Executive L. so I am spending the next 2 months trying to decide to replace or delete. But will say listening to the muffler delete it’s more mannered less aggressive in pitch but more mannered. I’ve driven my 91 Lincoln Town Car Executive with no cats and no muffler it was honest to god so damn loud basically headers status I had friend messaging me at 2am that they could hear my engine 3-4 miles away which is crazy the cats off is simply raw V8 muscle in my opinion but for me personally I do like the muffler delete better.
Looking to do a secondary cat delete on my vic. What size pipe is it?
Where you guys at in tn? We just got some land south of cookeville. Great video BTW. I think I will be doing cat delete with high flow muffler, what do you think?
Is the check engine light from the muffler delete?
Both cars are dope. Thanks bro
Do these methods make the check engine light come on or mess up emissions
Taking of the cats does bro, you'll fail emissions so wait till you get a smog check then your good for 2 years
In my county here in Ca you need to smog once then you don't need to smog it again till you sell it. My grand marquis had a cat delete when I bought it, got them welded on for smog, then got them taken off again. True dual into a X pipe with 2 magnaflow straight through mufflers. Sounds loud and mean.
@@yungalan6186 incorrect removing after cats don't upset the o2 readings
7:37 That horse is enjoying it
What I plan to do to my 07 P74 is rear cat delete, Borla Catback, Cobra 4v heads and intake manifold, PCM chip, cold air intake, interceptor suspension and regear the diff. Thought about making it a Roush Cobra clone or do a Coyote 5.0 swap, but this would turn heads as well.
Converting a 2v to a 4v can be done but it is almost definitely going to be harder than an engine swap lol. Much easier and cheaper to swap in a 4v from a mark viii or something but that's just my opinion.
FOR LEGAL REASONS EVERYONE READ THIS!!
There are standard tests that are performed by the inspection team when you get in trouble for loud exhaust. The methods used in this video for testing do not follow testing protocol at all. Mr Random, this is not an attack at you, because this is not very common knowledge, however, if you are going to modify your exhaust and want to check if it passes regulations, look into the specific standardized protocol for your state's vehicle exhaust sound level regulations.
In accordance with the Society of Auto Engineers Standard J1169 test for excessive exhaust noise, the test should be conducted as follows:
1) Test must be done outdoors with no sound reflective surfaces within a 10 ft radius of the car
2) Mic Placement: 20 in. behind your exhaust pipe opening, at the same height as the exhaust pipe opening, parallel to the ground, and offset about 45 degrees to the left or right of the exhaust pipe opening.
3) Put the car in Neutral
4) Rev the engine to 3/4 of your car's max RPM and take the sound measurement
In the state of California, your car's exhaust can not exceed 95 dB(A) when tested with this procedure.
Happy modding, friends
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Awesome video btw
Also did you ever finish supercharging that one vic?? Im trying to supercharge my P71 next summer in addition to a bunch of other planned projects on it and have been eagerly waiting to see how yours comes out!
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@@T0astedR0asted not snitchin, letting you guys know how to properly check your exhaust sound so that you know if you're legal or not when you go to mod your exhaust, that way you don't test the wrong way and think you're legal even though you might not be
Both sound great IMO💪🏼
Which one gives me better gas mileage and HP? Delete all 4 cats? Straight pipe? Catback system? Headers? Wt heck its confusing. Im mainly looking to save gas and HP. And if sound comes with this so be it.. . .
To 2nd...sorry I didn’t add to 1st reaction! Do either the muffler delete &/or the rear cats delete mess with driveablity a previously (mostly) enjoyable car to drive, or more importantly trigger a CEL? Thx again.
Why would a muffler delete fail emissions?
I did cheap glass packs same length as stock muffler. Solid steel wire feeder to put it back together. Still got the cats but one is throwing an efficiency code. Should just take em out.
Mine came with the front cats cut off wish it was the backs
I've gotten to see the killer whale in person and yes it's quite loud.
How loud is that inside the car
If it's got a V8... after the catilitic converters the two 2.5" pipes go to a Y not y or X... from the Y just past the tail of the transmission a 2.5"x28" glass pack bolts to the Y... from the glass pack a 2.5" pipe passes to the rear axle then another Y that then goes to a set of magnum flow mufflers. best $500 exaust.
If the car has been idling for a bit already, it no longer is a cold start. Cold start is the first crank of the day.
Summit racing x pipes are cheap too if your looking to just dump the midpipe.
All my cats and resonators are fookin gone and the muffler was frikin yeeted ba🤣 Idk why I typed like that
I like how the killer whale sounds. 👍
Harbor fright because the jack stands should frighten you they snap
Great video
Thanks
I used a hand saw
I tried x pipe but the drone was unbearable. Tried different mufflers couldn’t get rid of it . So I went with a h pipe. Best sound yet. X had more torque tho.
Did you connect the pipe back to the muffler after deleting the cat?
Goño Cali is 95dbls limit. Smog checks joke everyone in Cali forever!
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I was just getting excited to do my crown vic. just the same. but. when you mention California. I was like. shit I can't do it 😪😪
7:06 why is there a cobra mustang badge on a crown vic on the quarter pannel
Oh bc extra hurse pur
I paused the video to figure out why. Lol those rims look like srt rims also
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Too bad California won't let me with the new muffler law. Went with a borla catback
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I live in Georgia, love to do it to my Grand Marquis but we have emission inspections down here
Don't know what Georgia you live in, but in my Georgia there is not such a thing. Maybe it's a county thing. Have to look it up.
@@ChrisfromGeorgia yeah, actually that's it
@@KevRalph Damn. Hope it doesn't come to my county. Peace
@@ChrisfromGeorgia I'm in Cherokee.. they do it but I heard neighboring counties don't. I would have thought something like that would be a statewide thing
@@KevRalphI hear ya. I'm in Richmond. I lived in South Carolina for a bit and they had it there. My belief is that it is a money making racket.
Did you cut the cat AND muffler off of the car or was it only 1 or the other?
I still have mufflers ... but not for long.
I tapped 1.5" holes pre mufflers. It sounds throaty but not like the beaters u hear in Mejico. Geez 😬
Hey do I have to do anything special with the O2 sensors if I cut the cats out?
What about supercharged
They sound the same to me
RIP purple Jordan's
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I have a 97 Mercury Grand Marquis running straight headers and my car sounds like a monster compared to these
Are you supposed to cut your exhaust halfway under your cabin?
What you think ab cherry bombs on a crown vic
I had glass pack cherry bombs on my 2005 and it sounded AMAZING
You won't fail smog for a muffler delete but the cat-back you will
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Baby onboard flybys, that's nice 10/10 parent
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no babys were harmed in the making of this video
@@MrRandomReviews I wasn't trying to bust your balls or anything I just got a laugh at it 😂 unintentional humor is the best humor
I rev my dayley driver harder then that
Very good
Muffler delete sounds decent on a Vic. But the car runs funny afterwards. Makes it slower and burn more gas. You lose to much back pressure. Just delete resonators, and put a single chamber muffler on it. It’s not like it’s a mustang fr or charger scat pack. Pipes only 2.5. Not 3. Engine not the most powerful. So don’t expect to much. And they don’t have that many full exhaust u can use. Like the borla extreme. That shit on a Mustang is nuts.
Absolute b/s post. Mine is faster. Better MPG, LOUDER obviously, smoother. Cutting out front cats now.
What size pipe fits on the outside of these pipes?
hey love the video. How can I make my car deep sounding without paying 160 for a flowmaster
A flowmaster super 44 series isnt 160$ and it sounds great
benson420710 you have to buy 2 mufflers at 80 a piece
Go to any auto parts store and price a set of magnaflow Rumble mufflers. Cheaper, knockoff Flowmaster classic 40's. Same design as 40's. Sound great on my 79' dodge 318.
That's some funny shit!!! 1:28 "however you white people fuckincall it" I'm white and I think that's fuckin hilarious I love it brother I watch you all the time
No one is gonna talk about waking up da baby?
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Sure someone reading this can answer this question straightforward just trying to find out with the check engine light due to the rear cats being deleted if you clear the code with a OBD2 scanner will that check engine just keep returning or is there a means to clear permanently with that cat delete ?
I think there's a way you can get rid of the engine light. Look up "spark plug non fouler trick"
Will these mods cost your car power?
What rims are those on the killer whale?
I got a 99 town car with sidedumps out of the cats and it sounds just like Killer Whale but louder