You will never go wrong by choosing an Oneida dust collector. Mine is almost 30 years old and is as good as the day I purchased it from Oneida. Good video.
I bought a used delta single stage system several years ago and I still haven't installed it! I need to just do it, but it's a lot more work than just using a shop vac. Unlike all you incredible woodworkers, I just don't do enough woodworking to justify the setup. This was an informative video, and I'm excited you've got something that will work for you
Thanks for sharing.this definitely helps as a new woodworker I’m looking for a dust collector for my shop I’m setting up and the more I watch about the super cell I think it’s the one I need to save up my money for.
If you want performance on par or actually a little better than the Supercell due to increased filter surface area then a hybrid system with a Record Power CamVac/Oneida Super Dust Deputy and a canister filter might be a good option. The CamVac has 3- 1kw 220v motors and only cost about $800. Everything else added still comes in at less than ½ what the Supercell cost.
@@BruceAUlrich I am just about ready to order and realized that the Turbo is 5 dbs louder and also requires a 30A 220v circuit. According to Oneida it looks like the regular Supercell should meet my needs quite well. Can you tell me a bit about your experience with the noise level of the regular unit 80 dbs? Thanks
That looks like a sweet dust collector! I save money by using every horizontal surface to collect all my sawdust. lol I really want to get a dust collector, but I don’t trust the janky electrical setup in my shop to run more than one machine at once. Thanks for sharing Bruce!
Huge Oneida fan, I own the Supercell with 30 gal drum. Can’t recommend it more. Cleaning the shop with a 30’ hose is awesome. That said, using it on a random orbit sander (or domino, etc) is absurd. You don’t need 5HP, plus your shop will turn into a furnace LOL. Get a Festool CT or Midi or if you hate Festool look to 3M. Those are the right tools for that job.
Ive had the oneida on my wishlist until i sold my powermatic. I'll be buying the turbo version this month. Now I'm wondering if i even need my festool ct26 in the shop 😮
You have answered every question I have had. Thanks for the review! So many elaborate but never talk about the varying sizes and review coming from basic dust collector that almost anything can beat. My wife wants me to run duct through the house so she can vacuum the hardwood floors with it. Hey whatever it takes to get it in my shop.
@@BruceAUlrichI haven’t heard of it either other than dust and chips off the shop floor. My family has all by hijacker’s my ct26 for floor vacuuming but hey like I said if it gets me a supercell the worst that could happen is they don’t like. I won’t be sending it back!
Great video definitely a big help been looking at dust collection systems and this Oneida one has become the front runner was looking at that in the Laguna but the more I watch videos on it. The Oneida seems to be a better system so thanks for sharing.
That looks like a great machine. I have the Harbor Freight collector that I converted to a two stage, but would love to upgrade. With the DC being 5 HP, does that mean 220 is required?
I never heard of them either. Just sent me down a path researching them. The Cmavac unit with triple motors most expensive model is only 162 l/s (343cfm). With many 4” tools requiring a minimum of 350cfm I wouldn’t understand buying that model. It also is not as integrated into one unit as nicely as you said. Do you see any specs on CFM for smaller hoses like 1.5” or 2”. I couldn’t find anything on Camvac’s page easily. Oneida has a lot of data on their site and after owning one for 4 years I have been more than impressed. I’ll stick with Oneida built in the US. They have great customer service and support. I bought mine before the Turbo came out. Hope one day I can update the non-turbo to a turbo. That would be nice to further increase the machines capabilities.
That doesn’t take up much space at all. Appears to work much better than my WEN. when it comes time for me to upgrade I’ll be considering this supercell. Thanks for the info.
would love to own one but i have heard the motors could be an issue as there are 4 of them and if one goes you have to replace all 4 of them ? Not sure how long the motors last as they are very high speed
Hello.. im just wondering Does oneida supercell collect dust from air. I do many grinding car panels and my shop is full of dust, but i can't connect to tools. Im looking something that will collect dust from air in my shop.. What you think ?
No, I would not recommend the SuperCell for this. It is meant to collect at the tools. I would buy or build some type of an air cleaner/air scrubber. Jay Bates has a video about how to make one here on RUclips.
No per the manual. How many tools can I collect from simultaneously? The Supercell and Supercell Turbo can accommodate up to three 1" to 2.5" tools at the same time or one tool with a 4" or 5" diameter port.
@@Matt-zf8ty Depends on the tool, really. My table saw has a built in overarm dust hose. It's ported into the 4" dust outlet on the saw. So it's a single hookup to the dust collector.
Thus is nuts. This "dust collector" is really a 3-motor shop vac. So naturally it works well when you have a shop vac application, like a sander with a small hose. But it is not a replacement for a high volume dust collector. Most woodworking shops need both, a dust collector and a shop vac.
@BruceAUlrich There is a wide range of flow requirements in a wood shop. This will work well with the low to medium requirements. Planers are one of the easiest machines to collect from. If this "dust collector" meets the requirements for your use, it has a few advantages over 2 or 3 shop vacs in parallel, like the filter cleaning and cyclone.
I ended up after researching option and traditional systems landing on this and I have had no issue collecting chips, dust and fine dust on any of my machines. I have a fine micron, dust, particle meter to measure air quality in my shop that runs continuously when I’m in there: planer, jointer, table saw, routers, drum sander, etc. no issue keeping air quality as clean as outside air. (I did a comparison to bench mark out door air as my ideal clean condition for my shop) Now if you have a large industrial shop with multiple machines going at a time then a bigger air system would be needed and Oneida wouldn’t spec this one for you. There are other units that they sell that make more sense for those shop’s needs. This is plenty for running a one person one machine at a time wood shop with dust ports from 5” diameter and smaller. This is not a one solution for everyone. But for majority of small shops this is plenty and then some.
Many dust collectors of this size are in that price range. I was hoping to show that you would not need to also but dust extractors, etc. I understand, different people have different needs.
I know. Many descent dust collectors though are now over the $2000k that have some form of HEPA or fine dust collection. Many hobbyist will justify $3000 or more for a table saw but won’t justify buying a tool to keep the fine dust out of their lungs that hooks up to all the dust producing tools in the shop. If you have a well used hobbies wood shop you easily spent $3000 already and probably way more. Clamps alone can be $50 a pop for those bessey parallel clamps. 10 pair will be $500. It adds up quick. I started with a shop vac, a respirator and a few machines. and in time saved to buy this and larger power tools as needed. It has been worth it and a major upgrade. Space is a constraint so I get more available square footage with a 2’x2’ dust collector that draws >430cfm at each machine. (Actual measurements with anemometer). I could have bought a cheaper bag filter or canister filter DC that collected chips and some fine dust but the cost and still dealing with fine dust didn’t seem like a good long term investment. Ended up getting a fine dust particle meter and tested before and after as I upgraded. Between this unit and an 1000cfm air filtration system in the 13x26 foot shop my air stays extremely clean. I found it well worth it.
Bruce I mean this in the best way possible. Your shop looks like a prison, and you don't deserve to work in a prison. I would love if you fixed up your walls a bit. I'm not saying you need a massive miter saw station or anything. Just some old projects on the walls, or somthing, a logo, or even fresh paint. Either way its just my opinion I'm not gonna stop watching your videos if you never do anything to them.
Hey Richard. It's kind of funny that you mention this, because I do feel it sometimes. I do think our shops need to look pleasing to us, because it should be a place we "want" to be. As far as the paint, it just didn't work out, more like I didn't think about it until I had all of my stuff in there. I don't like the color in the shop...and I really don't like the drywall patches all over the place. However, it is just not practical at the time for me to take everything out and repaint at this time. I hope to be selling this house within the year. And when I get it empty, I might paint it to help it sell, but I just don't know if I see it happening before then. I do have a couple of old projects on the walls...I just don't show them in videos much. They are clamp racks, drill stations, etc. I do have a big logo sign that I need to put up in the shop. I also made this cool display for my great grandpa's old mallet made out of a piece of a wagon wheel (not sure if you saw that video). I need to dig it out of a close and hang that up somewhere.
@@BruceAUlrich Yeah I have seen the mallet video its one of my favorite of yours. I remember you talking about it on the podcast too. Yeah I need to refreash my shop too but I can only do so much cause I'm renting but we should be closing on our first house soon. Good luck with your next house.
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You will never go wrong by choosing an Oneida dust collector. Mine is almost 30 years old and is as good as the day I purchased it from Oneida. Good video.
I bought a used delta single stage system several years ago and I still haven't installed it! I need to just do it, but it's a lot more work than just using a shop vac. Unlike all you incredible woodworkers, I just don't do enough woodworking to justify the setup. This was an informative video, and I'm excited you've got something that will work for you
I hear you…you can’t justify the time to do it. That’s why my website hasn’t been updated. Ha ha
Thanks for sharing.this definitely helps as a new woodworker I’m looking for a dust collector for my shop I’m setting up and the more I watch about the super cell I think it’s the one I need to save up my money for.
I don't think you would go wrong with it.
Thanks for the help
If you want performance on par or actually a little better than the Supercell due to increased filter surface area then a hybrid system with a Record Power CamVac/Oneida Super Dust Deputy and a canister filter might be a good option. The CamVac has 3- 1kw 220v motors and only cost about $800. Everything else added still comes in at less than ½ what the Supercell cost.
Interesting
I like the reversing feature Bruce. I'll have to consider that machine if I decide to replace mine.
The ease of cleaning a dust collector matters.
Good choice. I have looked at everything out there and I am going with the Oneida Supercell Tubro for my 14'x32' shop.
That’s a beefy one!
@@BruceAUlrich I am just about ready to order and realized that the Turbo is 5 dbs louder and also requires a 30A 220v circuit. According to Oneida it looks like the regular Supercell should meet my needs quite well.
Can you tell me a bit about your experience with the noise level of the regular unit 80 dbs? Thanks
@@RossWilliamsDC I wouldn't say 80dbs is very loud. Some dishwashers are rated at that to put it into perspective. ;)
That looks like a sweet dust collector! I save money by using every horizontal surface to collect all my sawdust.
lol I really want to get a dust collector, but I don’t trust the janky electrical setup in my shop to run more than one machine at once.
Thanks for sharing Bruce!
Yeah, electrical can be demanding. I had to run a bunch more circuits in this shop when we moved in. Luckily, I had room in the box to add more.
Huge Oneida fan, I own the Supercell with 30 gal drum. Can’t recommend it more. Cleaning the shop with a 30’ hose is awesome. That said, using it on a random orbit sander (or domino, etc) is absurd. You don’t need 5HP, plus your shop will turn into a furnace LOL. Get a Festool CT or Midi or if you hate Festool look to 3M. Those are the right tools for that job.
I showed it briefly, but I have the large Festool extractor for sanding. It seems to be a great machine.
Awesome looking machine indeed, Bruce! Congrats!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
It can do it all!
Ive had the oneida on my wishlist until i sold my powermatic. I'll be buying the turbo version this month. Now I'm wondering if i even need my festool ct26 in the shop 😮
You have answered every question I have had. Thanks for the review! So many elaborate but never talk about the varying sizes and review coming from basic dust collector that almost anything can beat. My wife wants me to run duct through the house so she can vacuum the hardwood floors with it. Hey whatever it takes to get it in my shop.
Glad you found it useful! I’ve never heard of people vacuuming the floors with it
@@BruceAUlrichI haven’t heard of it either other than dust and chips off the shop floor. My family has all by hijacker’s my ct26 for floor vacuuming but hey like I said if it gets me a supercell the worst that could happen is they don’t like. I won’t be sending it back!
Great video definitely a big help been looking at dust collection systems and this Oneida one has become the front runner was looking at that in the Laguna but the more I watch videos on it. The Oneida seems to be a better system so thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching! Hope it helps your decision to at least give you more information.
That looks like a great machine. I have the Harbor Freight collector that I converted to a two stage, but would love to upgrade. With the DC being 5 HP, does that mean 220 is required?
Yes, on a 20Amp circuit.
Looks like a great system!
I’ve been enjoying testing it out!
Nice video but just one correction. There an alternative, Record Power offers similar setup. Oneida is better integrated though into one package
Interesting. Never heard of them
Yes, their Camvac units have been around for a while now and are fantastic dust collectors
I never heard of them either. Just sent me down a path researching them. The Cmavac unit with triple motors most expensive model is only 162 l/s (343cfm). With many 4” tools requiring a minimum of 350cfm I wouldn’t understand buying that model. It also is not as integrated into one unit as nicely as you said.
Do you see any specs on CFM for smaller hoses like 1.5” or 2”. I couldn’t find anything on Camvac’s page easily.
Oneida has a lot of data on their site and after owning one for 4 years I have been more than impressed. I’ll stick with Oneida built in the US. They have great customer service and support. I bought mine before the Turbo came out. Hope one day I can update the non-turbo to a turbo. That would be nice to further increase the machines capabilities.
That doesn’t take up much space at all. Appears to work much better than my WEN. when it comes time for me to upgrade I’ll be considering this supercell. Thanks for the info.
Good deal. Glad to give some info on it.
Great video! Keep it up!
Thanks so much, Will!
would love to own one but i have heard the motors could be an issue as there are 4 of them and if one goes you have to replace all 4 of them ? Not sure how long the motors last as they are very high speed
It has 3 motors. I'm not sure why you wouldn't trust it. I know people who have had these machines using them in their shops for years.
Hello.. im just wondering
Does oneida supercell collect dust from air. I do many grinding car panels and my shop is full of dust, but i can't connect to tools. Im looking something that will collect dust from air in my shop..
What you think ?
No, I would not recommend the SuperCell for this. It is meant to collect at the tools. I would buy or build some type of an air cleaner/air scrubber. Jay Bates has a video about how to make one here on RUclips.
Is it out of the foyer now!?
Maybe… ;)
You think it can take a 4” table saw port and and overarm blade guard port simultaneously?
Yeah, for sure. I just don’t have the over arm thing for my tablesaw. I would feel confident running multiple tools with this. It’s 5HP
No per the manual.
How many tools can I collect from simultaneously?
The Supercell and Supercell Turbo can accommodate up to three 1" to 2.5" tools at the same time or one tool with a 4" or 5"
diameter port.
@@Matt-zf8ty Depends on the tool, really. My table saw has a built in overarm dust hose. It's ported into the 4" dust outlet on the saw. So it's a single hookup to the dust collector.
Thus is nuts. This "dust collector" is really a 3-motor shop vac. So naturally it works well when you have a shop vac application, like a sander with a small hose. But it is not a replacement for a high volume dust collector. Most woodworking shops need both, a dust collector and a shop vac.
It can collect just fine from major tools, like my 20” planer that has a 4” port, so I don’t understand why it won’t work?
@BruceAUlrich There is a wide range of flow requirements in a wood shop. This will work well with the low to medium requirements. Planers are one of the easiest machines to collect from. If this "dust collector" meets the requirements for your use, it has a few advantages over 2 or 3 shop vacs in parallel, like the filter cleaning and cyclone.
I ended up after researching option and traditional systems landing on this and I have had no issue collecting chips, dust and fine dust on any of my machines. I have a fine micron, dust, particle meter to measure air quality in my shop that runs continuously when I’m in there: planer, jointer, table saw, routers, drum sander, etc. no issue keeping air quality as clean as outside air. (I did a comparison to bench mark out door air as my ideal clean condition for my shop)
Now if you have a large industrial shop with multiple machines going at a time then a bigger air system would be needed and Oneida wouldn’t spec this one for you. There are other units that they sell that make more sense for those shop’s needs.
This is plenty for running a one person one machine at a time wood shop with dust ports from 5” diameter and smaller.
This is not a one solution for everyone. But for majority of small shops this is plenty and then some.
The on switch is ridiculous
Huh?
@@BruceAUlrich I mean. The location and style of the standard Oneida off/on switch looks silly mounted to the canister.
@Andy-iw9su Ok. I don’t think it looks all that different than many other tools.
2x2 in the 20" planer..... really?
Why not? It’s meant for planing anything.
I like the concept of the Supercell but it's really hard to justify over $3,000 for a dust collector alone
Many dust collectors of this size are in that price range. I was hoping to show that you would not need to also but dust extractors, etc. I understand, different people have different needs.
You get what you pay for and more with Oneida. It is an absolute beast and IMHO a DC is the most important tool in the shop.
It’s more important than I knew early in in my woodworking.
Awful steep price for a hobbyist.
Not really, but I would say this is more for a strong hobbyist or someone doing it more often, especially if they're making money from woodworking.
I know. Many descent dust collectors though are now over the $2000k that have some form of HEPA or fine dust collection.
Many hobbyist will justify $3000 or more for a table saw but won’t justify buying a tool to keep the fine dust out of their lungs that hooks up to all the dust producing tools in the shop.
If you have a well used hobbies wood shop you easily spent $3000 already and probably way more. Clamps alone can be $50 a pop for those bessey parallel clamps. 10 pair will be $500. It adds up quick.
I started with a shop vac, a respirator and a few machines. and in time saved to buy this and larger power tools as needed. It has been worth it and a major upgrade. Space is a constraint so I get more available square footage with a 2’x2’ dust collector that draws >430cfm at each machine. (Actual measurements with anemometer).
I could have bought a cheaper bag filter or canister filter DC that collected chips and some fine dust but the cost and still dealing with fine dust didn’t seem like a good long term investment.
Ended up getting a fine dust particle meter and tested before and after as I upgraded. Between this unit and an 1000cfm air filtration system in the 13x26 foot shop my air stays extremely clean. I found it well worth it.
@@lukemontgomery40 Well said
Bruce I mean this in the best way possible. Your shop looks like a prison, and you don't deserve to work in a prison. I would love if you fixed up your walls a bit. I'm not saying you need a massive miter saw station or anything. Just some old projects on the walls, or somthing, a logo, or even fresh paint. Either way its just my opinion I'm not gonna stop watching your videos if you never do anything to them.
Hey Richard. It's kind of funny that you mention this, because I do feel it sometimes. I do think our shops need to look pleasing to us, because it should be a place we "want" to be. As far as the paint, it just didn't work out, more like I didn't think about it until I had all of my stuff in there. I don't like the color in the shop...and I really don't like the drywall patches all over the place. However, it is just not practical at the time for me to take everything out and repaint at this time. I hope to be selling this house within the year. And when I get it empty, I might paint it to help it sell, but I just don't know if I see it happening before then. I do have a couple of old projects on the walls...I just don't show them in videos much. They are clamp racks, drill stations, etc. I do have a big logo sign that I need to put up in the shop. I also made this cool display for my great grandpa's old mallet made out of a piece of a wagon wheel (not sure if you saw that video). I need to dig it out of a close and hang that up somewhere.
@@BruceAUlrich Yeah I have seen the mallet video its one of my favorite of yours. I remember you talking about it on the podcast too. Yeah I need to refreash my shop too but I can only do so much cause I'm renting but we should be closing on our first house soon. Good luck with your next house.
Well that really sucks!!! 😉
Totally! Ha ha
You are an accident waiting to happen on the table saw!