The Golden Order Greatsword shares the default moveset of many other Greatswords, and deals both Physical and Holy Damage. It has an average weight for a Greatsword in Elden Ring, weighing 10, and requires some points in Strength, Dexterity and Faith in order to wield. Pros: Highest Holy Damage of all Holy Damage dealing Greatswords in Elden Ring. Upper middle of the pack of the Holy Damage dealing Greatswords in terms of total Attack Rating. Establish Order does very high Holy Damage, and can be buffed effectively with the Sacred Scorpion Charm and Holy-Shrouding Cracked Tear. +20% damage vs. Undead enemies, and prevents Undead resurrection. Cons: It's found extremely late in the game in the Cave of the Forlorn. Very high stat requirements for a Greatsword. Does about 66% Holy Damage, which is not a good damage type vs many challenging end game bosses. Establish Order is not always easy to land because of its long wind up. Conclusion: The Golden Order Greatsword packs a serious punch, but by the time you acquire it, you'll most likely have a comparable or better Greatsword. The fact that it does mostly Holy Damage would seem fantastic, except for the fact that many late game bosses resist this damage type, making it less effective than it should be by the time you have it. The weapon shines around 50 Faith, putting it near the top of total Attack Rating of all Holy Damage dealing Greatswords at this point and onwards. But because the Golden Order Greatsword has such poor Strength and Dexterity Scaling, you'll likely have to play some sort of Jump Attack Power Stance build with it, or a Spellblade type that use the Erdtree Seal in the left hand.
Actually, the most on Death's Poker is 45str/55dex, leaving you with an AR of 709. But, I'm being really nitpicky. Also, the ability scales with magic but also seems to scale with attack power despite the ability scaling better with straight magic buffs. I don't know why some abilities do this. It COULD be because the initial hit is physical.
Only a few things cause Perma death on resurrecting enemies. Golden Epitaph, Golden Order Greatsword, Treespear, Orders Blade, Litany of Proper Death, Inseparable Sword, Holy Arrows, and I think the Miquellan Knight sword when buffed. I can't remember if Cipher Pata and Coded Sword do. Holy Grease will not and no other holy weapons will if I remember correctly. It's got to be a blessed holy weapon, not just holy damage.
My first “playthrough” I quit around Grelmir Heroes Grave because a pair of skeletons at the start caused me to lose 40k or so runes. I was under the impression that, like other games, skeletons could only be truly killed by slaying the necromancer (supported by my experience in the Black Knife Catacombs) or using Holy Damage, so I tossed aside my Quality build and went straight into a new game to make HolyMoly, who I got to Faith 30 so I could use the Cipher Pata. Imagine my shock when the Cipher Pata didn’t keep the skeletons down
@@localgyakutenkenjituso two of the easiest enemies in the game that were late in the game caused you to throw away your character and start a new game? Did you not know larval tears exist or something?
Been missing these videos. Thanks for your content man. Definitely helped me try out some new playstyles i normally would be too weary to experiment. Keep up the good stuff. Question for everyone: What are your predictions for future dlc/what would you like to see?
I have stuck with the lordsworns and have upgraded it so much no I’ve just committed to it. I’m still on my first play through, but if I can go through the whole thing with just the lordsworns greatsword than I think I’ll accept that challenge! Thanks for the analysis of them and I will definitely rewatch this when I make my next greatsword character…
As you go through the game you'll acquire bell-bearing's you can give to the maidens at roundtable hold that will let you purchase smithing stones which will make upgrading other weapons significantly easier.
For my build its more of a draconic greatsword user build. I use the banished knights greatsword with the uppercut ash of war. Along with the gravel stone seal. For my incantations I use vykes dragon spear so I can enchant my sword with lightning. I then use a variety of draconic lightning attacks along with ezykes decay. For armor I use the banished knight helm, scale armor (not to be confused with the scaled armor you get for killing istavan) but I do use istavans scaled gauntlets and greaves. Talismans I use great axe talisman,winged sword talisman,the great sheild talisman and the godfrey talisman (this is off the top of my head sorry)
Yeah build crafting is insane. Finished the game and still playing different builds. Wish info was more transparent in the game. Too much hidden stuff.
Kinda random but if you're looking for a different gane thats "kind of" similar, the build crafting in Nioh 2 is superb. I have over 1100+ hours and the variety of builds that are viable for end game farming/bossing is actually kind of overwhelming. 11 diferent weapon types with their own skill trees and combos that have probs about 15 different viable builds each . Added on top of the skill editing and stance system which brings even more variety in build crafting and gameplay. It's actually my number 1 game in the soulslike sub-genre, I love it more than Elden Ring even due to the almost endless content at end game (at least for me, the combat in Nioh is second to none imo)
@@zachj19991 agreed but Nioh 2 got boring for me after finishing it once... at Elden ring... i'm at my 6'th play-through on 3 different chars and I can't get enough :)))
i beat the game with dual magic knight's GS and sorcery. 10/10 would recommend, great weapon, very balanced between speed, reach, damage. highly versatile as well
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't talk about range in the video. Definitely something to consider, especially when using thrusting attacks such as the backstep+L1 combo most greatswords have. I haven't used the iron greatsword yet and am curious about how the range compares to other greatswords. Seems like it has a similar length to the knight's greatsword.
@@jacobferrera1777 I got lucky and had one drop naturally before I heard about all the hype behind it. Now finding a second one... might pose a problem.
Been running a collosal sword build. As soon as I got Ranni's sword, the temptation to dual wield it with either Rykard's or Bell Bearing Hunter overtakes me. But I shall never abandon my Guts blade ...
got radahn starscource greatsword. only use it when fsrming or if there are lots of openents. guts sword still carries me through anything. the poise damage is gives is so op
There's more to the claymore R2 than the range. It's thrusting damage which means it benefits from being a "counter attack" and can get additional bonuses from the spear talisman. Also, the r2 uncharged is faster than any other greatswords r2. As a matter of fact, it's one of the fastest r2s in the game, which is why the claymore pairs so well with storm stomp.
Do not sleep on claymore R2. It is, and has been in the Fromsoft games in the past, a very strong attack. Remains one of my favourite weapons in all of their games.
@@manguejoethe claymore move set made it one of the best if not the best greatsword back in dark souls 1 despite having one of the lower base damages of her weapon type.
The Marai's greatsword is a great alternate weapon for arcane builds when facing enemies that do not bleed/rot such as Elden Beast. You don't get great scaling but the ash still does insane damage with the right talismans
It is. Tested it with Millicent's prothesis, winged rotten talisman, Alexander shard. The damage stack is insane. The only thing that bothers me is that the stat distribution for it is very niche. I like to have something else to switch it up
@@kugelundkopf581 But there is another weapon that scales with STR and arcane: Mohgwyn's sacred spear. It's got fire damage that stacks with the arcane scaling, solid phys damage and the longest range of all the great spears.
Banished Knight greatswords can be game right from the beginning from the two banished knights at the Cathedral of Dragon Communion in Caelid of you can survive the ride there (not hard) and farm the knights there by making running attacks on Torrent. By the time you get two of the swords, you'll probably have a full set of the armor, too.
...But why someone would even waste their time in early game by dealing with an high level zone and tanky enemy, when there's Stormveil just behind the corner?
Very good video breakdown of Greatswords. I would just like to add that while Banished Knight Greatsword has slightly higher damage out than Knights Greatsword (with both having the same exact unique two handed moveset), the Knight's Greatsword is one of the longest Greatsword with superior range. These two are also superior to the Iron Greatsword due to their unique two handed moveset (if mostly two handing). And as Fextralife already pointed out, both these Greatswords can be found very early in the game in Limgrave.
You said the Flamberge shares the default moveset of many other Greatswords, but it has a unique R2 attack when held in one hand. It's the only one in the game that does a horizontal swing to the left for its heavy attack animation.
THANK YOU!!! Flamberge is my favorite secondary sword. I have an INT build and I use Darkmoon and Flamberge with an cold Ash of War. The frost proc pretty much obliterates most foes.
Hate to be picky or maybe I just missed something, but where is the Golden Order Greatsword? General thoughts; I find the greatswords movesets quite boring and special IMO, the extra reach is nice for shield gameplay but nothing you can't bridge with learning the game better. The reason greatswords can be so great are their WA's. The Executioner's Sword is a boss killer, NG+ especially because of the stat investments (that was explained) - this guide didn't do its damage justice, it's the strength/arcane build comparable to Comet Azur - just shreds bosses that aren't overly agile / active. Also my first playthrough was heavily based around Blasphemous Blade, late game though - and yes, it's a monster.
Agree on the moveset, which is why I stuck with the Banished Knight's even after getting the Iron Greatsword. I wish From would add some more varied strikes to these weapons.
Worth noting that the Banished Knight Greatsword is the highest AR of non-unique's other than Iron, but weigh's 2 less than Iron. Depending on Equip load, it might be worth considering for any dual sword builds in offhand if Iron limits armor options
I go back and forth between which I think is the best out of the two swords you mentioned, but I've concluded that the iron greatswords are head and shoulders better than all of the non-unique greatswords when dual-wielding (at RL 150 and below). The tradeoff in weight is only about 4 RL which is not enough unless you plan to stay at really low levels. The Banished Knight sword outdoes it at higher levels (RL 200+) because it's a quality sword masquerading as a strength weapon (not sure if I said this right lol). When heavy infused, it has the 3rd highest AR, but that's where it ends. All of the other non-physical damage types, except fire, are scaled towards quality or wants dexterity like lightning. This limits you tremendously if you wanted to do a pure strength build at meta levels. It's a shame too because it's the only weapon that allows the hero class to wield a greatsword without leveling dex. The stat requirements to wield the sword suggests it should be a pure strength sword but for it to be viable, it needs to be quality. Regardless, it's my favorite weapon along with the whole Banished Knight armor set.
Pretty sure Flame of the Redmanes shifts the scaling more toward strength. It's not the best large- game great sword, but it can be game from the banished knights in Caelid right from the beginning and is a baller blade early on. The fights with the Leyndell giant that you can teleport to from Weeping Peninsula, Margit, Godrick and Renala were surprisingly easy disk stancing these
@@intothevoid2415 scaling depends on affinity choice, for example I leave most weapons heavy or quality when using It with flame of the redmanes so I can use buffs but still have the ash. I prefer this method even though it might not be the most efficient.
it just dropped for me randomly in my spellblade build, i picked it up and i fell in love with its look and moveset (so effing elegant). i might get the iron greatsword too eventually but i grinded it for my alt which ended up being a pvp account and i don't know if i wanna farm for it again (i play offline currently cause i don't want psplus so no muling) and again, it's all about style since i use spells if i need to melt enemies and banished knight sword looks so cool (i also love the banish knight armor)
Gotta mention something about holy dmg, mobs and especially most of the bosses in this game have more holy resistance than any other, and fire seems to be the least resisted overall, so take that into consideration as well, cause if you wanna fight Morgott, Elden Beast or Radagon with a holy weapon, you're gonna have a bad time :) even Malenia has 40% holy resistance and 0% to fire :P Also, please stop referring to Leyndell as "Late game" cause that's mid game at best, The mountaintops, Lake of Rot and Farum Azula, the Haligtree and Leyndell after Maliketh are the only "late game" zones.
Also, If you’re counting all the side stuff, then it is mid game, but when you cut it out, it is late game. Also, the haligtree is a completely optional area lmao… I’m on a 4th play through and I beat the game in 2 hours by just B lining it to the required bosses
@@proeh I already said that Leyndell AFTER maliketh is late game, but not when you first reach it, that's mid, and none of the weapons show you get after Elden Beast, so it's mid game.
Fantastic breakdown of my favourite weapon class in Elden Ring! Lordsworn and Claymore were the very first weapons I, a Soulsborne newbie, started finally feeling the game with. Kind of wish they game all greatswords a moveset similar to the Banished Knight's, and Flamberge not having Claymore's thrust R2 with such a shape of the blade is an outright crime to me.
While some Greatswords are "OP" most of them are not and actually have a horrible moveset for PvE or PvP. Especially the ones with not as much reach. A real normal strength human could swing half of the Greatswords more effectively than the moveset you're given. I think they completely dropped the ball with almost all 2 handed swords besides the special ones. My 2 cents.
Also, for Ordovis' Greatsword, wearing either of the Crucible Knight armor will boost the damage of the weapon skill, as well as the Crucible incantations
Absolutely love these breakdowns! Great job man. Banished Knight's Greatsword is my favourite personally. The two handed r1 moveset is great and feels smoother and faster, plus whilst cold infused at +25 I'm pretty sure it's got a C in Str, Dex and Int meaning you can continously upgrade the damage into NG+ 😁
Even with the high you heap on the blasphemous blade, I feel you barely do it justice: - you didn't mention that in addition to dealing high damage, it knocks down anything Malenia sized or smaller. The crowd control potential is huge - you said it is bad on a spell blade build, but failed to mention it is absolutely stellar on a caster build. A main caster has enough faith and mind that takers flame one shots all normal enemies and is totally spammable. Who cares that the weapon damage is poor if you only ever use the aah of war?
Greatswords are definitely better for PVE than PVP, but I think that can be said for most heavy weapon classes. PVP-wise, you definitely want something quicker, so you don't just have to rely on the crouch-poke as your bread and butter. Cool as they are, you might not get much mileage out of a GS in a duel.
Please add more commentary on how each weapon performs in NG+ runthroughs. While you did mention whether or not a few of the weapons would be viable for NG+, having notes on how EACH weapon is likely to fare is helpful for someone like me who is running through NG+ playthroughs. As always, excellent work! I look forward to your future videos.
Blasphemous+ milos is great pair, add the jar remains talisman/ skill cost reducing tally, and the taly that regens on kills and you got a decent tank build that can power stance as well
Bottom line, the better a weapon scales, the better it will do in NG+ since you have significantly more stats to play with. Weapon scaling is less important than base damage in a fresh playthrough because you likely won't reach the stat thresholds to make the scaling become the difference maker. This changes in NG+.
@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 This makes sense. In my NG+ playthroughs, the best staff for sorceries is the Prince of Death's staff because it allows Sorcery Scaling to jump all the way to 430 when I have 80 in both Int and Faith, which is much more powerful than any other staff other than Lusat's Glintstone.
I'd like to add something to the ALABASTER LORD's SWORD based on my own experience. I was playing a "pure INT" build when I came across this sword, with about 80 INT at the time. While its INT scaling isn't very good on paper, the Weapon Skill seems to have much higher INT scaling (it seems like the Weapon Skill scales 100% off of INT) and I would call its damage output at 80 INT 'extremely good'. While I used the weapon for its moveset and stagger damage from time to time, I primarily switched to it for its Weapon Skill.
Amazing content! I actually use greatswords the most, but did it after testing out different weapons and simply liking them over other options. I use one for every situation: those living in death, fire, ice, and plenty of holy.
Another conn for Ordovis' great sword: you have to make it through one of the hardest caves in the game and defeat the dual Crucible knights! An almost impossible task for most in itself
I was wondering when your next ER Video will be upoaded. But now seeing this 35 min video and thinking about how much effort this probably has been I do totally understand the slight delay! Great Video!
Always been a fan of Marais Executioner Sword. It’s a cool little nod to Slave Knight Gael, has a really cool AoW, and does stupid damage with the right physick and talismans. Overall just looks cool and lots of fun to use.
I know that one day you’ll do a vid for colossal weapons and I can’t wait for you to shine light on the Watchdog Staff! Super underrated with its unique scaling and ash of war. Rly underappreciated
With Ordovis, committing to the full crucible knight set up isn’t a bad idea, the extra poise provided by the armor means the weapon art is practically guaranteed in PvP, the ritual shield and sword talismans reinforce the weapon art even further, the aspects of the crucible incantations allow you to spice up your otherwise basic moveset, I’d also throw in Beastial Vitality and maybe the Blessed Dew Talisman to more consistently benefit from the Ritual Talismans, and the crucible great shield allows you to play more defensively to allow your poise to recover. Like you I would also use the Clawmark Seal with Golden Vow, taking Faith no higher than 27 just to meet the requirements for the aspects of the crucible incants, and focusing almost solely on strength.
Power stance greatswords is the most fun movest of the game. But i wanted power stance to be like on ds 2, where you switch for the double hit moveset when you try to 2-hand your left hand weapon, then you could have the double hit on R1/RB and have a power stance strong attack on R2/RT, this would also allow L1/LB and L2/LT to be attached to both weapon arts, left hand weapon art on L1/LB and right hand weapon art on L2/LT (DS2 didn't have weapon arts, but the power this power stance based on that power stance system but still very different to adapt to weapon arts it would be very cool).
I've mainly been dual wielding the Blasphemous Blade with the Sacred Relic Sword for grinding. Using Golden Wave to clear out scores of enemies and healing for each one is fantastic just about anywhere in the overworld. Prior to unlocking the Sacred Relic Sword, my main hand was Maliketh's Black Blade with Blasphemous in the offhand.
The claymore carried me in my paladin build (faith/strength) play through. I only changed when I got the blasphemous blade and bubble horn later on. Even then I missed the poking r2 sometimes. It may not be the strongest but I love the claymore for it's move set. Until you get to late game and have lots of crazy options the claymore is a solid choice.
@@nhoffman0677 Yes! I totally agree. With other greatswords, I couldn't even come close to the success I had using the claymore against Malenia. I put a bleed ashes of war on it and went aggressively with the stabs and L1's. It really helps to have that stab up your sleeve when you are rolling around and trying to avoid attacks because it has that homing-like connection, so you don't have to concentrate on squaring up as much.
Im not an experienced from software-gamer, but Im slowly getting there. BUT, the weaponpart is really were I struggle when it comes to what to invest in. As of know, I go for the first "normal" greatsword you can get at the first solder caravan. After trhowing some smithingstones at t, I find it very hard to change and experiment since the damage drops so rapidly with new weapons.
I love greatswords and my first two characters use greatswords. One is your Dark Knight build which I've altered a tiny bit by adding a dagger with Golden Vow on it to take advantage of that buff without wasting points into faith. The other I made into what I call the Blasphemous Dragon Knight using the Blasphemous Blade and Dragon Communion Seal. Stats at 50 Faith and 40 Arcane give you 719 AR on Blasphemous Blade and 323 incantation scaling with the Dragon Communion Seal. I lean pretty pretty heavily on Taker's Flame and use Ekzyke's Decay/Agheel's Flame in the Dragon Communion incantations along with Lightning Spear for ranged attacks and Flame, Fall Upon Them for quick AOE situations and Golden Vow and Flame, Grant Me Strength for buffing. Very fun build and strong against a good number of bosses, especially Malenia. Took her down on my fourth attempt with this build, which was my second playthrough. I know it's not the most min/maxed build but I wanted to make Blasphemous Blade work in a spellblade situation and this is pretty damn effective for that.
@@skinless5136 yes by 2.5%. I think that's a fair trade of to not throw 19 points into faith to be able to use the Golden Vow incantation, especially on an already stat hungry build.
I love Greatswords in general. Always have, since I was 12years old. I found them to be really good in ER as well. Thank you for sharing your information and thoughts. This is a very good guide for people who wanna try out Greatswords or even want to get more in depth with them. Thanks!
Probably because of what people commonly think are greatswords, are actually longswords. So a proper renaissance greatsword (named zweihander in the game) comes off as even larger.
I unexpectedly cheesed malenia in her second phase using powerstanced claymore and lordsworn gretaswords (with lions claw ash of war). I pancaked her with lions claw, jump attacks and criticals and she couldnt do anything.
For my Death themed Int + Fai build I used Helphen Steeple + Gargoyle's Black Blade, Raptor's Black Feathers and Claw Talisman. While not the highest damage/most optimized build the ability to cast pretty much every spell in the game and still do good melee damage made it quite fun!
@@G1R2TS Not really a game breaker since I had to sacrifice some survivability to reach a good stats in Intelligence and Faith. At level 150 starting as Vagabond my stats were: Vigor 45 Mind 20 Endurance 20 Strength 20 Dexterity 25 Intelligence 46 Faith 46 Arcane 7
@@sgtbutcrack6523 I used the Death Poker mainly for the AoW since it scales good with Int unlike the weapon itself. I combo'ed the Poker offhand with the Death Ritual Spear
Yikes man... Calling sacred relic sword "meh" might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It's absolutely phenomenal if you know how and when to use it. And no it's not niche, it's fantastic for PVP and PVE pretty much without exception. And this kids, is why we DON'T JUDGE A WEAPON BASED SOLELY ON ITS NUMBERS
Awesome vid, definitely gave me some ideas on greatswords I want to use. Looking forward to seeing other weapon categories, especially twinblades and greatspears.
Recommended stats for Death’s Poker are 50 STR/DEX and only 20 INT?? The ash of war scales exclusively through INT. I’m running it as part of a spellblade build with min requirements for STR/DEX and pushing INT towards 80 softcap and the ash of war hits for 3-4K damage unbuffed, not to mention applying frostbite, with few bosses immune to frost. If you’re using this weapon for the melee attacks you’re using it wrong
I played my first play through double fisting the bloodhound fang with the jump attack talisman. Run up to the enemy jump attack them and immediately do the bloodhound fangs skill, almost always kills/ knocks every enemy. I don’t know what that has to do with this video but I said it anyways.
I like greatswords a lot in this game, but I would have liked a little more variety in their movesets among the weapon class. In PvE, I usually just dual wield them and jump L1 a lot, since the game in general doesn't give you too many options that are better than that. In PvP, I two hand them. I think they're a lot better than people give them credit for. Most people try to play with them like it's Dark Souls 3, get poked to death by longer reach weapons, and blame the weapon instead of taking advantage of their fantastic jump R1s to circumvent that.
i am doing a faith/strength build. my main weapon is a sacred butchering knife[sacred blade ash of war] , for my secondary I want a weapon which I can infuse spells on. Was thinking of a heavy glaive, liked its movesets and i like spears and halberds in general to one hand. Which of these greatswords would you suggest for this build of mine? I would like to mostly use it one handed with a shield/seal in my left hand and ill buff it with either lightning or black flame depending on enemy. Any suggestion is appreciated :)
Banished Knight GS is a monster in PvP. It’s fast moveset for combo catches so many people off guard. It also personally feels very rewarding to learn how to mix up its moveset. I’ve beaten most of my opponents using this weapon.
Blasphemous Blade can be gotten very early in the game. You can fight Rykard immediately out of the first dungeon before even Godrick. >Kill dragon in Caelid for free runes to level up for stat reqs and enough VIG to survive. Use a bleed weapon (Morning Star or the Uchi, Reduvia if you wanna make Godskin easier, it won't fight back so anything works) >Kill other bosses if you wanna make sure (optional) >Teleport via Raya Lucaria Abductor Virgin to Altus, get to volcano manor (or just get the medallion w/e) >Go through secret path in the room with the dead guy and the false wall, first room in the hallway. >Kill the Foreskin Noble in the Temple of Eiglay, easy if you get the Reduvia from Nerijus and some sleep pots >Kill Rykard with the Serpent Hunter, can teleport out and upgrade the spear first if you want >Bam bingo bango there you go.
Love the new series. Also enjoy the references to build videos you've already done. And also the mention of the 3 play styles and which weapon fits into which.
Hey just so you know.. like over half of weapon skills work with Godfrey icon LOL. Basically anything that "feels" like it's charging and coming out all slow is counting for it right now
Great vid! I've used quite a few. Claymore is probably my fav for early game so far. I haven't given the Iron greatsword a good run yet. Not sure whether to use that or go colossal eventually though since I'm focusing STR...
I'm doing my NG+ with the Death's Poker and since it's main damage output is magic damage, I put everything into int. If this greatsword works, it's fun to play around with but unfortunately it's still buggy as hell. Hence I'm using the Dark Moon Greatsword as a backup. Edit: Oh and if nothing works, it's back to Blasphemous Blade again. :D
Really great video, so well made and we'll presented. I'm on my first playthrough, using the unimaginatively names Greatsword (collosal sword) that people seem to think is the sword Guts uses in Berserk. I'd love it if they had actually put the Dragonslayer in this game, either way I'm very happy regardless :) Probably the best game I've ever played!
This is the best most thorough video in terms of how to play and build around each weapon. Absolutely love this video and hope you do this for all of them!
If a weapon scales A in strength and B in dex, do you get more damage out of it with say 50 str and 50 dex because of soft caps, or more with 99 str? The way stays work and scale age confusing and I like to mix it up with weapons. Is there a tool online to calculate builds and weapon damage? 😬
The Golden Order Greatsword shares the default moveset of many other Greatswords, and deals both Physical and Holy Damage. It has an average weight for a Greatsword in Elden Ring, weighing 10, and requires some points in Strength, Dexterity and Faith in order to wield.
Pros:
Highest Holy Damage of all Holy Damage dealing Greatswords in Elden Ring.
Upper middle of the pack of the Holy Damage dealing Greatswords in terms of total Attack Rating.
Establish Order does very high Holy Damage, and can be buffed effectively with the Sacred Scorpion Charm and Holy-Shrouding Cracked Tear.
+20% damage vs. Undead enemies, and prevents Undead resurrection.
Cons:
It's found extremely late in the game in the Cave of the Forlorn.
Very high stat requirements for a Greatsword.
Does about 66% Holy Damage, which is not a good damage type vs many challenging end game bosses.
Establish Order is not always easy to land because of its long wind up.
Conclusion: The Golden Order Greatsword packs a serious punch, but by the time you acquire it, you'll most likely have a comparable or better Greatsword. The fact that it does mostly Holy Damage would seem fantastic, except for the fact that many late game bosses resist this damage type, making it less effective than it should be by the time you have it.
The weapon shines around 50 Faith, putting it near the top of total Attack Rating of all Holy Damage dealing Greatswords at this point and onwards. But because the Golden Order Greatsword has such poor Strength and Dexterity Scaling, you'll likely have to play some sort of Jump Attack Power Stance build with it, or a Spellblade type that use the Erdtree Seal in the left hand.
Can you give your review of the Golden Order Greatsword in a pinned comment?
@@Devin7Eleven Done!
Blaidds sword! I forget the name offhand
Actually, the most on Death's Poker is 45str/55dex, leaving you with an AR of 709. But, I'm being really nitpicky.
Also, the ability scales with magic but also seems to scale with attack power despite the ability scaling better with straight magic buffs. I don't know why some abilities do this. It COULD be because the initial hit is physical.
@@evanbodek6063 that’s a colossal greatsword
"Wave of gold does not prevent undead resurrection, though it really should." Fextra getting HEATED on this one.
Only a few things cause Perma death on resurrecting enemies. Golden Epitaph, Golden Order Greatsword, Treespear, Orders Blade, Litany of Proper Death, Inseparable Sword, Holy Arrows, and I think the Miquellan Knight sword when buffed. I can't remember if Cipher Pata and Coded Sword do. Holy Grease will not and no other holy weapons will if I remember correctly. It's got to be a blessed holy weapon, not just holy damage.
@@lindseyormsbee Counterpoint: Actual GOD'S weapon should be able to put the undead down for good.
My first “playthrough” I quit around Grelmir Heroes Grave because a pair of skeletons at the start caused me to lose 40k or so runes. I was under the impression that, like other games, skeletons could only be truly killed by slaying the necromancer (supported by my experience in the Black Knife Catacombs) or using Holy Damage, so I tossed aside my Quality build and went straight into a new game to make HolyMoly, who I got to Faith 30 so I could use the Cipher Pata.
Imagine my shock when the Cipher Pata didn’t keep the skeletons down
@@localgyakutenkenjituso two of the easiest enemies in the game that were late in the game caused you to throw away your character and start a new game? Did you not know larval tears exist or something?
@@furretthefuzzynoodle3896 at the time i was largely just upset
Been missing these videos. Thanks for your content man. Definitely helped me try out some new playstyles i normally would be too weary to experiment. Keep up the good stuff. Question for everyone: What are your predictions for future dlc/what would you like to see?
A sleep related dlc would be good.
@@vidhusharma9452 as in like, more sleep focused weapons/spells etc?
Hi, you forgot to mention Golden Order Greatsword, great video nevertheless!
Waiting for the straight sword video I haven’t used those weapons yet and I would love a breakdown like this
Awesome video! Very informative.
I have stuck with the lordsworns and have upgraded it so much no I’ve just committed to it. I’m still on my first play through, but if I can go through the whole thing with just the lordsworns greatsword than I think I’ll accept that challenge! Thanks for the analysis of them and I will definitely rewatch this when I make my next greatsword character…
As you go through the game you'll acquire bell-bearing's you can give to the maidens at roundtable hold that will let you purchase smithing stones which will make upgrading other weapons significantly easier.
Whoa ordovis' vortex looks so dope!
For my build its more of a draconic greatsword user build. I use the banished knights greatsword with the uppercut ash of war. Along with the gravel stone seal. For my incantations I use vykes dragon spear so I can enchant my sword with lightning. I then use a variety of draconic lightning attacks along with ezykes decay. For armor I use the banished knight helm, scale armor (not to be confused with the scaled armor you get for killing istavan) but I do use istavans scaled gauntlets and greaves. Talismans I use great axe talisman,winged sword talisman,the great sheild talisman and the godfrey talisman (this is off the top of my head sorry)
I use mainly greatsword with great shield and greatsword and seal. My go to is the blasphemies blade
13:05 I can’t believe bro tap strafed in Elden Ring
Nice video but I think you missed one, Golden Order Greatsword 😉
Also, I might add, though I did not hear it mentioned in the video, I have yet to acquire either the Watchdog Greatsword or the Guts Greatsword.
This series is an awesome idea. The build crafting is my favorite part of the game and this has me thinking about all sorts of options
Yeah build crafting is insane. Finished the game and still playing different builds. Wish info was more transparent in the game. Too much hidden stuff.
I'm terrible at it but yeah it's definitely one of the coolest parts of the game.
Kinda random but if you're looking for a different gane thats "kind of" similar, the build crafting in Nioh 2 is superb. I have over 1100+ hours and the variety of builds that are viable for end game farming/bossing is actually kind of overwhelming. 11 diferent weapon types with their own skill trees and combos that have probs about 15 different viable builds each . Added on top of the skill editing and stance system which brings even more variety in build crafting and gameplay.
It's actually my number 1 game in the soulslike sub-genre, I love it more than Elden Ring even due to the almost endless content at end game (at least for me, the combat in Nioh is second to none imo)
@@zachj19991 agreed but Nioh 2 got boring for me after finishing it once... at Elden ring... i'm at my 6'th play-through on 3 different chars and I can't get enough :)))
One thing about the Knight's Greatsword: yes, it does slightly less damage than the Banished Knight's Greatsword, but it is also a bit longer.
i beat the game with dual magic knight's GS and sorcery. 10/10 would recommend, great weapon, very balanced between speed, reach, damage. highly versatile as well
It's also cooler
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't talk about range in the video. Definitely something to consider, especially when using thrusting attacks such as the backstep+L1 combo most greatswords have. I haven't used the iron greatsword yet and am curious about how the range compares to other greatswords. Seems like it has a similar length to the knight's greatsword.
@@Erdtree_Sampson lol the grind is not fun ye be warned
@@jacobferrera1777 I got lucky and had one drop naturally before I heard about all the hype behind it. Now finding a second one... might pose a problem.
You forgot about the Golden Order Greatsword. Other than that, I was waiting for a video like this, nice work.
I was looking to see if i just missed it in the video
Zwiehandler too? Or is that a colossal sword?
@@JohnTaylor-ed4eb it’s a colossal sword
@@reyjr4 no it’s not
@@westonneumann3402 yes, it is.
Been running a collosal sword build. As soon as I got Ranni's sword, the temptation to dual wield it with either Rykard's or Bell Bearing Hunter overtakes me. But I shall never abandon my Guts blade ...
Guts blade forever! I told myself the same thing when I got my hands on the blasphemous blade but I just couldn't do it
Those are all great swords, not colossal swords
@@bolson42 re-read the comment.
I re-did the quest in ng+ so I can duel wield 2 of Ranni's sword, No regrets.
got radahn starscource greatsword. only use it when fsrming or if there are lots of openents. guts sword still carries me through anything. the poise damage is gives is so op
There's more to the claymore R2 than the range. It's thrusting damage which means it benefits from being a "counter attack" and can get additional bonuses from the spear talisman. Also, the r2 uncharged is faster than any other greatswords r2. As a matter of fact, it's one of the fastest r2s in the game, which is why the claymore pairs so well with storm stomp.
Also makes for a great weapon to wield from horseback.
Storm stomp with claymore R2 is a true combo. Lost many matches in pvp due to that combo
Do not sleep on claymore R2. It is, and has been in the Fromsoft games in the past, a very strong attack. Remains one of my favourite weapons in all of their games.
Exactly. Very underwhelming review from frextralife. Mostly considers numbers. This is. A Souls game. There's much more into weapons than just damage.
@@manguejoethe claymore move set made it one of the best if not the best greatsword back in dark souls 1 despite having one of the lower base damages of her weapon type.
The Marai's greatsword is a great alternate weapon for arcane builds when facing enemies that do not bleed/rot such as Elden Beast. You don't get great scaling but the ash still does insane damage with the right talismans
It is. Tested it with Millicent's prothesis, winged rotten talisman, Alexander shard. The damage stack is insane.
The only thing that bothers me is that the stat distribution for it is very niche.
I like to have something else to switch it up
@@kugelundkopf581 But there is another weapon that scales with STR and arcane: Mohgwyn's sacred spear. It's got fire damage that stacks with the arcane scaling, solid phys damage and the longest range of all the great spears.
@@carljohan9265 and it's got a pretty broken ash of war.
@@carljohan9265 omg i just found my new favorite combo, I also like to switch between 2 weapons
Great video! I think you are missing the golden order great sword.
Finally, a nuanced look at weapons rather than just «good/bad»
Weapons can only be broken or trash, don't you know?
Missing your Elden Ring videos Cas, glad to have our ER dose again!
In this Elden Ring Video!!!!
Wait, are you missed the Golden Order Greatsword?
You forgot the golden order greatsword!
Banished Knight greatswords can be game right from the beginning from the two banished knights at the Cathedral of Dragon Communion in Caelid of you can survive the ride there (not hard) and farm the knights there by making running attacks on Torrent.
By the time you get two of the swords, you'll probably have a full set of the armor, too.
...But why someone would even waste their time in early game by dealing with an high level zone and tanky enemy, when there's Stormveil just behind the corner?
@@jador9641 Margit
@@christopherclayton5500 I hate margit
Very good video breakdown of Greatswords. I would just like to add that while Banished Knight Greatsword has slightly higher damage out than Knights Greatsword (with both having the same exact unique two handed moveset), the Knight's Greatsword is one of the longest Greatsword with superior range. These two are also superior to the Iron Greatsword due to their unique two handed moveset (if mostly two handing). And as Fextralife already pointed out, both these Greatswords can be found very early in the game in Limgrave.
But the best move greatswords have is power stance jumping attacks (for pve atleast)
I finished the majority of the game with the Claymore. Absolutely loved the moveset!
You said the Flamberge shares the default moveset of many other Greatswords, but it has a unique R2 attack when held in one hand. It's the only one in the game that does a horizontal swing to the left for its heavy attack animation.
Wow, I just tested it and it's very cool
THANK YOU!!! Flamberge is my favorite secondary sword. I have an INT build and I use Darkmoon and Flamberge with an cold Ash of War. The frost proc pretty much obliterates most foes.
Hate to be picky or maybe I just missed something, but where is the Golden Order Greatsword?
General thoughts; I find the greatswords movesets quite boring and special IMO, the extra reach is nice for shield gameplay but nothing you can't bridge with learning the game better. The reason greatswords can be so great are their WA's.
The Executioner's Sword is a boss killer, NG+ especially because of the stat investments (that was explained) - this guide didn't do its damage justice, it's the strength/arcane build comparable to Comet Azur - just shreds bosses that aren't overly agile / active. Also my first playthrough was heavily based around Blasphemous Blade, late game though - and yes, it's a monster.
Agree on the moveset, which is why I stuck with the Banished Knight's even after getting the Iron Greatsword. I wish From would add some more varied strikes to these weapons.
I was about to comment about that, so I think it was overlooked, indeed.
its in a catacomb in the consecrated snowfield dropped by a reskinned misbegotten boss if I remember right
@@drift9301 It wasn't covered in the video, period. Not talking about where it is in game.
Editing error, it got cropped out :(
Great video, but you guys skipped the Golden Order Greatsword!
Worth noting that the Banished Knight Greatsword is the highest AR of non-unique's other than Iron, but weigh's 2 less than Iron. Depending on Equip load, it might be worth considering for any dual sword builds in offhand if Iron limits armor options
I go back and forth between which I think is the best out of the two swords you mentioned, but I've concluded that the iron greatswords are head and shoulders better than all of the non-unique greatswords when dual-wielding (at RL 150 and below). The tradeoff in weight is only about 4 RL which is not enough unless you plan to stay at really low levels.
The Banished Knight sword outdoes it at higher levels (RL 200+) because it's a quality sword masquerading as a strength weapon (not sure if I said this right lol). When heavy infused, it has the 3rd highest AR, but that's where it ends. All of the other non-physical damage types, except fire, are scaled towards quality or wants dexterity like lightning. This limits you tremendously if you wanted to do a pure strength build at meta levels. It's a shame too because it's the only weapon that allows the hero class to wield a greatsword without leveling dex. The stat requirements to wield the sword suggests it should be a pure strength sword but for it to be viable, it needs to be quality. Regardless, it's my favorite weapon along with the whole Banished Knight armor set.
Pretty sure Flame of the Redmanes shifts the scaling more toward strength. It's not the best large- game great sword, but it can be game from the banished knights in Caelid right from the beginning and is a baller blade early on.
The fights with the Leyndell giant that you can teleport to from Weeping Peninsula, Margit, Godrick and Renala were surprisingly easy disk stancing these
Love the banished knight GS moveset, so that can be a big thing for some.
@@intothevoid2415 scaling depends on affinity choice, for example I leave most weapons heavy or quality when using It with flame of the redmanes so I can use buffs but still have the ash. I prefer this method even though it might not be the most efficient.
it just dropped for me randomly in my spellblade build, i picked it up and i fell in love with its look and moveset (so effing elegant). i might get the iron greatsword too eventually but i grinded it for my alt which ended up being a pvp account and i don't know if i wanna farm for it again (i play offline currently cause i don't want psplus so no muling) and again, it's all about style since i use spells if i need to melt enemies and banished knight sword looks so cool (i also love the banish knight armor)
Deaths poker is op, and WILL melt most enemies.
Gotta mention something about holy dmg, mobs and especially most of the bosses in this game have more holy resistance than any other, and fire seems to be the least resisted overall, so take that into consideration as well, cause if you wanna fight Morgott, Elden Beast or Radagon with a holy weapon, you're gonna have a bad time :) even Malenia has 40% holy resistance and 0% to fire :P
Also, please stop referring to Leyndell as "Late game" cause that's mid game at best, The mountaintops, Lake of Rot and Farum Azula, the Haligtree and Leyndell after Maliketh are the only "late game" zones.
Lol then you go back to lyndell to kill elden beast, so it is late game
Also, If you’re counting all the side stuff, then it is mid game, but when you cut it out, it is late game. Also, the haligtree is a completely optional area lmao… I’m on a 4th play through and I beat the game in 2 hours by just B lining it to the required bosses
@@proeh I already said that Leyndell AFTER maliketh is late game, but not when you first reach it, that's mid, and none of the weapons show you get after Elden Beast, so it's mid game.
Fantastic breakdown of my favourite weapon class in Elden Ring! Lordsworn and Claymore were the very first weapons I, a Soulsborne newbie, started finally feeling the game with. Kind of wish they game all greatswords a moveset similar to the Banished Knight's, and Flamberge not having Claymore's thrust R2 with such a shape of the blade is an outright crime to me.
Claymore enjoyers unite!
While some Greatswords are "OP" most of them are not and actually have a horrible moveset for PvE or PvP. Especially the ones with not as much reach. A real normal strength human could swing half of the Greatswords more effectively than the moveset you're given. I think they completely dropped the ball with almost all 2 handed swords besides the special ones. My 2 cents.
Bruh its op quit lying. Easy mode as soon you pick one up.
@@fatty1040 you don't know much about Elden Ring don't you?
Saying that greatswords are op is just stupid
Ngl 100% sincere but git gud heavy weapons r good
@@WORTH-IT-MAN you obviously can't read. Try again. If you need help let me know I can hold your hand and help you understand simpleton.
It's just the series flair that Fextra is using. It's a shorter way of saying "This is an argument for why X weapon is really good"
Also, for Ordovis' Greatsword, wearing either of the Crucible Knight armor will boost the damage of the weapon skill, as well as the Crucible incantations
Really?
Does it have to be the full set?
It's only for incantations not the weapon art
Absolutely love these breakdowns! Great job man. Banished Knight's Greatsword is my favourite personally. The two handed r1 moveset is great and feels smoother and faster, plus whilst cold infused at +25 I'm pretty sure it's got a C in Str, Dex and Int meaning you can continously upgrade the damage into NG+ 😁
This is a great feature, can’t wait for straight swords and curved swords.
Those are my main: 2 cold bandit's curved swords and a magic long sword.
Even with the high you heap on the blasphemous blade, I feel you barely do it justice:
- you didn't mention that in addition to dealing high damage, it knocks down anything Malenia sized or smaller. The crowd control potential is huge
- you said it is bad on a spell blade build, but failed to mention it is absolutely stellar on a caster build. A main caster has enough faith and mind that takers flame one shots all normal enemies and is totally spammable. Who cares that the weapon damage is poor if you only ever use the aah of war?
Great video. Is it just me or was the Golden Order Greatsword skipped in this video?
I love that elden ring is still popular. Keep the vids coming Fex!
when it comes to curved greatswords, the bloodhound one is really really good since it inflicts bleed and has a great ash of war
In other news water is fucking wet.
Ughhhh
Just use a regular one and stop pretending you're not a bloodhoundstep Andy.
@@Arcelux it has bloodhound finesse not step
@@red_menace1829 I mean your same comment could apply to the title of this video too. Or to blasphemous blade basically topping charts.
Greatswords are definitely better for PVE than PVP, but I think that can be said for most heavy weapon classes. PVP-wise, you definitely want something quicker, so you don't just have to rely on the crouch-poke as your bread and butter.
Cool as they are, you might not get much mileage out of a GS in a duel.
Please add more commentary on how each weapon performs in NG+ runthroughs. While you did mention whether or not a few of the weapons would be viable for NG+, having notes on how EACH weapon is likely to fare is helpful for someone like me who is running through NG+ playthroughs.
As always, excellent work! I look forward to your future videos.
Blasphemous+ milos is great pair, add the jar remains talisman/ skill cost reducing tally, and the taly that regens on kills and you got a decent tank build that can power stance as well
Bottom line, the better a weapon scales, the better it will do in NG+ since you have significantly more stats to play with.
Weapon scaling is less important than base damage in a fresh playthrough because you likely won't reach the stat thresholds to make the scaling become the difference maker. This changes in NG+.
@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 This makes sense. In my NG+ playthroughs, the best staff for sorceries is the Prince of Death's staff because it allows Sorcery Scaling to jump all the way to 430 when I have 80 in both Int and Faith, which is much more powerful than any other staff other than Lusat's Glintstone.
@@codymason1053 I had a lot of fun with a double Blasphemous blade run.
Really cool new serie fextra, the balanced stagger/damage this archtype has is great!! ill consider using one on my next playthrough for sure.
You forgot the golden order greatsword broski.
Katana users: Well isn’t that cute BUT ITS WROOOOOOONG!!!
I just love the claymore. I love it for the same reason I love Squirtle. First weapon and demolished the game for a good long while :)
I'd like to add something to the ALABASTER LORD's SWORD based on my own experience. I was playing a "pure INT" build when I came across this sword, with about 80 INT at the time. While its INT scaling isn't very good on paper, the Weapon Skill seems to have much higher INT scaling (it seems like the Weapon Skill scales 100% off of INT) and I would call its damage output at 80 INT 'extremely good'. While I used the weapon for its moveset and stagger damage from time to time, I primarily switched to it for its Weapon Skill.
Spent 7 hours just to get the black whetstone so my bastard sword could be the bloody bastard lmao
I like that every weapon class is "best in the game"
Amazing content! I actually use greatswords the most, but did it after testing out different weapons and simply liking them over other options. I use one for every situation: those living in death, fire, ice, and plenty of holy.
Another conn for Ordovis' great sword: you have to make it through one of the hardest caves in the game and defeat the dual Crucible knights! An almost impossible task for most in itself
The hero’s grave is less hard then it is annoying, just be smart and you’ll be fine
Yeah those guys are annoying. One is troublesome enough but two is just ridiculous. Without the maxed mimic I would not have survived
Crucible knights are easy if you parry them. Their attacks are pretty predictable too.
@@From_A_Diverging_Timeline I ended up having to learn how to Parry for just that fight. I have a hard time beating Crucibles without it
I was wondering when your next ER Video will be upoaded. But now seeing this 35 min video and thinking about how much effort this probably has been I do totally understand the slight delay! Great Video!
Always been a fan of Marais Executioner Sword. It’s a cool little nod to Slave Knight Gael, has a really cool AoW, and does stupid damage with the right physick and talismans.
Overall just looks cool and lots of fun to use.
Good video but man you repeat yourself every few seconds and could have cut the time down
I know that one day you’ll do a vid for colossal weapons and I can’t wait for you to shine light on the Watchdog Staff! Super underrated with its unique scaling and ash of war. Rly underappreciated
With Ordovis, committing to the full crucible knight set up isn’t a bad idea, the extra poise provided by the armor means the weapon art is practically guaranteed in PvP, the ritual shield and sword talismans reinforce the weapon art even further, the aspects of the crucible incantations allow you to spice up your otherwise basic moveset, I’d also throw in Beastial Vitality and maybe the Blessed Dew Talisman to more consistently benefit from the Ritual Talismans, and the crucible great shield allows you to play more defensively to allow your poise to recover. Like you I would also use the Clawmark Seal with Golden Vow, taking Faith no higher than 27 just to meet the requirements for the aspects of the crucible incants, and focusing almost solely on strength.
"in this Elden Ring video" hell yeah it's always a joy to watch. This series is an amazing idea! Looking forward to more!
I believe the Golden Order Greatsword wasn't covered.
Power stance greatswords is the most fun movest of the game.
But i wanted power stance to be like on ds 2, where you switch for the double hit moveset when you try to 2-hand your left hand weapon, then you could have the double hit on R1/RB and have a power stance strong attack on R2/RT, this would also allow L1/LB and L2/LT to be attached to both weapon arts, left hand weapon art on L1/LB and right hand weapon art on L2/LT (DS2 didn't have weapon arts, but the power this power stance based on that power stance system but still very different to adapt to weapon arts it would be very cool).
I've mainly been dual wielding the Blasphemous Blade with the Sacred Relic Sword for grinding. Using Golden Wave to clear out scores of enemies and healing for each one is fantastic just about anywhere in the overworld.
Prior to unlocking the Sacred Relic Sword, my main hand was Maliketh's Black Blade with Blasphemous in the offhand.
Awesome breakdown, definitely using this information in trying out some others I didnt consider work checking.
Glad it was helpful!
The Golden Order Greatsword disrespect will not stand.
Glad to see ur getting some videos out, we missed you. Hope things go/keep going well. I know it’s just some rando comment but ur committee loves u.
awesome work
IMO curved greatswords are just better in pretty much everyway.
and what happened to golden order greatsword?
Golden order greatsword?
The claymore carried me in my paladin build (faith/strength) play through. I only changed when I got the blasphemous blade and bubble horn later on. Even then I missed the poking r2 sometimes. It may not be the strongest but I love the claymore for it's move set. Until you get to late game and have lots of crazy options the claymore is a solid choice.
Love the claymore too!!! 😁
@@nhoffman0677 Yes! I totally agree. With other greatswords, I couldn't even come close to the success I had using the claymore against Malenia. I put a bleed ashes of war on it and went aggressively with the stabs and L1's. It really helps to have that stab up your sleeve when you are rolling around and trying to avoid attacks because it has that homing-like connection, so you don't have to concentrate on squaring up as much.
You missed a con for the Sword of Milos: the Dung Eater touched it.
Awesome idea, loved this video can't wait for others, so many different weapons I want them all
Thanks for sharing a new video series! It’s fantastic!😉 Thanks for all the time you’ve spent compiling all of this information.
Im not an experienced from software-gamer, but Im slowly getting there. BUT, the weaponpart is really were I struggle when it comes to what to invest in. As of know, I go for the first "normal" greatsword you can get at the first solder caravan. After trhowing some smithingstones at t, I find it very hard to change and experiment since the damage drops so rapidly with new weapons.
I love greatswords and my first two characters use greatswords. One is your Dark Knight build which I've altered a tiny bit by adding a dagger with Golden Vow on it to take advantage of that buff without wasting points into faith.
The other I made into what I call the Blasphemous Dragon Knight using the Blasphemous Blade and Dragon Communion Seal. Stats at 50 Faith and 40 Arcane give you 719 AR on Blasphemous Blade and 323 incantation scaling with the Dragon Communion Seal. I lean pretty pretty heavily on Taker's Flame and use Ekzyke's Decay/Agheel's Flame in the Dragon Communion incantations along with Lightning Spear for ranged attacks and Flame, Fall Upon Them for quick AOE situations and Golden Vow and Flame, Grant Me Strength for buffing. Very fun build and strong against a good number of bosses, especially Malenia. Took her down on my fourth attempt with this build, which was my second playthrough. I know it's not the most min/maxed build but I wanted to make Blasphemous Blade work in a spellblade situation and this is pretty damn effective for that.
Golden vow ash of war is way less potent then the incantation (less defence and attack)
@@skinless5136 yes by 2.5%. I think that's a fair trade of to not throw 19 points into faith to be able to use the Golden Vow incantation, especially on an already stat hungry build.
Don't you just love how none of the three main playstyles for a dedicated two-handed weapon involve using the weapon in two hands?
Please do more of these.
Great video, however, an in-depth analysis like this should really take into account the lenght of the weapons too.
I love Greatswords in general. Always have, since I was 12years old. I found them to be really good in ER as well. Thank you for sharing your information and thoughts. This is a very good guide for people who wanna try out Greatswords or even want to get more in depth with them. Thanks!
Probably because of what people commonly think are greatswords, are actually longswords. So a proper renaissance greatsword (named zweihander in the game) comes off as even larger.
I unexpectedly cheesed malenia in her second phase using powerstanced claymore and lordsworn gretaswords (with lions claw ash of war). I pancaked her with lions claw, jump attacks and criticals and she couldnt do anything.
For my Death themed Int + Fai build I used Helphen Steeple + Gargoyle's Black Blade, Raptor's Black Feathers and Claw Talisman. While not the highest damage/most optimized build the ability to cast pretty much every spell in the game and still do good melee damage made it quite fun!
Fun over optimization!? Blasphemy!
Sounds like a game breaker, I love it!!!
@@G1R2TS Not really a game breaker since I had to sacrifice some survivability to reach a good stats in Intelligence and Faith. At level 150 starting as Vagabond my stats were:
Vigor 45
Mind 20
Endurance 20
Strength 20
Dexterity 25
Intelligence 46
Faith 46
Arcane 7
should be using the death poker.
@@sgtbutcrack6523 I used the Death Poker mainly for the AoW since it scales good with Int unlike the weapon itself. I combo'ed the Poker offhand with the Death Ritual Spear
I have a hard time parting from the Claymore, that stab is just so useful/effective.
Thanks as always Fextra, the sheer effort this kind of content takes is appreciated!
Yikes man... Calling sacred relic sword "meh" might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It's absolutely phenomenal if you know how and when to use it. And no it's not niche, it's fantastic for PVP and PVE pretty much without exception. And this kids, is why we DON'T JUDGE A WEAPON BASED SOLELY ON ITS NUMBERS
Awesome vid, definitely gave me some ideas on greatswords I want to use.
Looking forward to seeing other weapon categories, especially twinblades and greatspears.
Recommended stats for Death’s Poker are 50 STR/DEX and only 20 INT?? The ash of war scales exclusively through INT. I’m running it as part of a spellblade build with min requirements for STR/DEX and pushing INT towards 80 softcap and the ash of war hits for 3-4K damage unbuffed, not to mention applying frostbite, with few bosses immune to frost. If you’re using this weapon for the melee attacks you’re using it wrong
I played my first play through double fisting the bloodhound fang with the jump attack talisman. Run up to the enemy jump attack them and immediately do the bloodhound fangs skill, almost always kills/ knocks every enemy. I don’t know what that has to do with this video but I said it anyways.
I like greatswords a lot in this game, but I would have liked a little more variety in their movesets among the weapon class.
In PvE, I usually just dual wield them and jump L1 a lot, since the game in general doesn't give you too many options that are better than that.
In PvP, I two hand them. I think they're a lot better than people give them credit for. Most people try to play with them like it's Dark Souls 3, get poked to death by longer reach weapons, and blame the weapon instead of taking advantage of their fantastic jump R1s to circumvent that.
I need this for every weapon class
Knights greatsword is the best looking gs especially when buffed with Vykes dragon bolt and with sword dance aow which is why I use it :)
golden order greatsword?
i am doing a faith/strength build. my main weapon is a sacred butchering knife[sacred blade ash of war] , for my secondary I want a weapon which I can infuse spells on. Was thinking of a heavy glaive, liked its movesets and i like spears and halberds in general to one hand.
Which of these greatswords would you suggest for this build of mine? I would like to mostly use it one handed with a shield/seal in my left hand and ill buff it with either lightning or black flame depending on enemy.
Any suggestion is appreciated :)
Banished Knight GS is a monster in PvP. It’s fast moveset for combo catches so many people off guard. It also personally feels very rewarding to learn how to mix up its moveset. I’ve beaten most of my opponents using this weapon.
Blasphemous Blade can be gotten very early in the game. You can fight Rykard immediately out of the first dungeon before even Godrick.
>Kill dragon in Caelid for free runes to level up for stat reqs and enough VIG to survive. Use a bleed weapon (Morning Star or the Uchi, Reduvia if you wanna make Godskin easier, it won't fight back so anything works)
>Kill other bosses if you wanna make sure (optional)
>Teleport via Raya Lucaria Abductor Virgin to Altus, get to volcano manor (or just get the medallion w/e)
>Go through secret path in the room with the dead guy and the false wall, first room in the hallway.
>Kill the Foreskin Noble in the Temple of Eiglay, easy if you get the Reduvia from Nerijus and some sleep pots
>Kill Rykard with the Serpent Hunter, can teleport out and upgrade the spear first if you want
>Bam bingo bango there you go.
Love the new series. Also enjoy the references to build videos you've already done. And also the mention of the 3 play styles and which weapon fits into which.
Hey just so you know.. like over half of weapon skills work with Godfrey icon LOL. Basically anything that "feels" like it's charging and coming out all slow is counting for it right now
Great vid! I've used quite a few. Claymore is probably my fav for early game so far. I haven't given the Iron greatsword a good run yet. Not sure whether to use that or go colossal eventually though since I'm focusing STR...
I'm doing my NG+ with the Death's Poker and since it's main damage output is magic damage, I put everything into int.
If this greatsword works, it's fun to play around with but unfortunately it's still buggy as hell.
Hence I'm using the Dark Moon Greatsword as a backup.
Edit: Oh and if nothing works, it's back to Blasphemous Blade again. :D
Really great video, so well made and we'll presented.
I'm on my first playthrough, using the unimaginatively names Greatsword (collosal sword) that people seem to think is the sword Guts uses in Berserk. I'd love it if they had actually put the Dragonslayer in this game, either way I'm very happy regardless :) Probably the best game I've ever played!
the dragon slayer would be just ludicrous and WAY too big for even a player to use, though the "Guts" greatsword is a fine stand in for it.
Biiig nerf on Executioner's blade btw. Still fun to use but its special attack doesnt do nearly as much damage as it used too.
This is the best most thorough video in terms of how to play and build around each weapon. Absolutely love this video and hope you do this for all of them!
Have you watched any of chrightt’s weapon videos?
@@Nasc3nt_Butt3rfly I watched a few. Very good
If a weapon scales A in strength and B in dex, do you get more damage out of it with say 50 str and 50 dex because of soft caps, or more with 99 str? The way stays work and scale age confusing and I like to mix it up with weapons. Is there a tool online to calculate builds and weapon damage? 😬