On prices: I don't minde if you talk about it and include all fragrances no matter the price. But there are so many good scents that aren't expensive, meaning under a 100.- a top 10 under 100.- or 120.- would be a nice video. Many Designer releases are generic atm, but for example Magie Noir by Lancome is still AMAZING and very affordable! So is Moschino Toy Boy, Versace Versence and Narciso Rodrigues pure Musc and many more 🤗
Hello Mr. P, thank you for all these insightful, witty and geeky reviews. Much and much appreciated! 300 pounds for a Néroli fragrances is outrageous and upsetting, now matter how well it's done. For something more affordable and just as good, I'd recommend Patricia de Nicolaï. The best of French perfumery tradition, Guerlain trained, top quality and a whole lot less expensive. And on a completely different note: I have the exact same shirt in green! I bought it years and years ago at Agnes B. in Paris and have never seen anyone else with it!
OMG YES! You're not alone! I really, really love the OG H24! I think it's a very unique perfume, a very unique designer release! Also, I really think it's a great next flag bearer for Hermes after the whole Terre D'Hermes series!
Correct, Guerlain did open a boutique in Poland. 100ml of L'Art & Somethings is around 1500 PLN, which is half of net minimum wage. I would buy something like Portrait of a Lady or Carnal Flower in a blink of an eye. But in terms of Guerlain's exclusive line, they're just a factory line of "nice fragrances", so no chance.
my first impression of florabloom was the same as yours! very fruity in the opening indeed. i was expecting maybe a headier floral right from the get go
Got Neroli Plein Sud in a sample. Finally tried it and…wow…it contrasts the floral with spices so beautifully where I get whiffs of something really delicious every now and then. I’m also surprised at its longevity because I sprayed myself 7 hours ago and I’m still smelling fresh almost fully finished with the workday. I passed on Neroli Outrenoir, but this scent is going to get on my full bottle list. Unless I find a cheapie that’s this pretty and I can keep a copy at work to reapply midday, I’d better start saving 😂.
Yes, plein sud means two things: either direction, movement towards the South; or something which is facing south, like a house facade, a garden, whatever really. For me, a French native, Néroli Plein Sud means that the tree and plant have been staying in full sunlight, in blazing, blinding sunlight even.
@@aarond9563 That is not a bad price for 200ml. specially if you store it in a dark and cold place, it can last up to 10 years. I guess they want to keep low prices for Europe and hike up the price in the USA🤷♂️
Great video and discussion as always- thanks! I wonder how this new Neroli compares to Nicolai's Neroli Intense- the most complete neroli yet in my opinion.
As usual great reviews Persolaise. Re price increases, the majority of perfumes aren't affordable for me any moreat retail so I just buy from the secondary markets like eBay and Facebook groups. Sad really as I would like to support the brands but can't justify paying what they're asking.
Really would love to get your opinion on the new guerlains. The samsara EDT appears to be weak and nothing like the original. Am I right ? This is the Bee bottle version. Perhaps the new generic bottles are even worse. Can you shed any light on this or is it just me ? ❤
Hi I wanted to ask you a very personal question, as a young man who has really gotten into fragrances, both designer and also a lot of niche ones, is it a good idea to buy some of the most common and safe raw materials of decent quality in very low amount just to smell them and get my nose used to them, to be able to better identify what’s going on and what synthetic molecules or materials I am smelling and what kind of woods and stuff like that, I’m talking about Iso E super, synthetic sandalwood, synthetic oud, labdanum, benzoin, some musks, vetiver, and stuff like that which a regular nose isn’t as used to.
I think that depends on what you hope to achieve. If you want to gain a better knowledge of raw materials, then yes, that would be an excellent thing to do. But you don't need to have that kind of knowledge to enjoy a perfume.
Totally agree on H24 EDT being the best, and it easily fills a room in my experience. The added herbs in Herbes Vives just didn’t mesh well with the H24 DNA in my view.
Maybe you can explain why the Neroli note smells so sharp in every ‘neroli’ fragrance I seem to try. I used to live directly next to a large orange orchard in Redlands, CA (USA) wherein the actual fragrance floating from the orchard to my apartment when the trees were in full bloom, was an intoxicating smooth, deep, sweet, honeyed orangey fragrance. Nothing like a ‘Neroli’ note. Unless the actual note is not the orange blossom.
Thanks for this. Perfumers and the perfume industry make a distinction between neroli and orange blossom because they're two different materials created by different extraction processes. They both come from the flower of the bitter orange tree, but neroli is usually produced by steam distillation whereas orange blossom is usually an absolute obtained by solvent extraction. They don't smell the same. Neroli tends to be brighter, sharper, more citrusy. Orange blossom tends to be more floral, deeper, more indolic. I hope this helps.
I am really enjoying Neroli Plein Sud. Somewhat shockingly many people who fund these higher priced Guerlains may do so using Pay in 3 facilities. Not sure what I think about this. I’ve been a Member of ffern on and off for some years and I really like their work and ways of presentation. The perfumes are interesting.
When you say woody ambers, do you mean aromachemicals like amberwood? Because that is what bugs me about Terre d' Hermès Eau Intense Vetiver. It's got amberwood in the base and it becomes quite apparent, to my dismay.
@@Persolaise I wholeheartedly agree. It's become sort of a plague in modern designer releases and makes lots of things smell alike. I'm absolutely fine with most aromachemicals, but some of these woody ambers are just unpleasant to my nose, too sharp, too strong, too screechy.
I tried Jasmin Bonheur, I think it’s superb , very beautiful scent, I just wish it last longer. Thank you for this review, I can’t wait to try this parfum. If you could review the Trump Victory 47 parfum I would be so happy. For me an independent, it’s not so triggering… I would love to know the quality of the juice , if he invested in quality too. What is the smell of that parfum? 🤔
Very welcome Daruish@@Persolaise . I haven't watched perfume content in a while or engaged in the hobby as much this past few months for several reasons.. Anyway, I smelled this yesterday visiting a mall in a city I'm moving too soon in Denver and I had to come see what people were saying. Really cool to see you're enjoying Neroli Plein Sud. If it were $200 I'd probably pull the trigger.
Guerlain has become a "cheap" brand to my eyes, if I must be honest. There are so many new releases, so many lines, so many perfumes for men, women, unisex, and add flankers on top; it's just ridiculous! I don't bother smelling anything from them anymore. And then comes the prices! One of the lines, extraits, I think, they are £480 for 50ml 😂 A simple bergamot and woods scent costs a quarter of somebody's salary. And, let's not even mention their £300.000 collab bottles! I salute your courage and honesty for speaking about prices. And yes, they have become quite ridiculous at this point.
@edition_8923 Guerlain is the only house that keeps its legendary perfumes at an affordable price. Shalimar, Habit Rouge, Vetiver, Mon Guerlain...all classics blended to perfection. b Look at what Tom Ford is doing? Mostly discontinued gems amidst a sea of juvenile, overpriced perfumes Chanel? Good luck finding a classic under 100 Euros
I would say Plein sud could be translated as Southbound maybe, there is an idea of movement, travel, and happiness to go really south, "total south" litterally
Neroli Plein Sud was obnoxious on my skin, didn’t feel very natural past the initial soapy opening. I can see it getting compliments based on how much it projects, definitely not for me. Dry and woody dry down, no sweetness to my nose.
£300 perfumes are expensive if you're a collector with a large collection and will only wear it maybe a couple time's per year.... whereas the majority of people with a few different perfumes will likely use up a bottle within a year or so, so then cost per wear/year is acceptable. P.s. Don't worry about carcinogens in vintage perfumes.. they are no worse than carcinogenic roast coffee, bbq food, crisps, fries, cereals, pickles, meat, alcohol etc... the list goes on.
I'm so grateful I found your channel. The most intelligent reviewer.
That’s too kind - thank you.
On prices: I don't minde if you talk about it and include all fragrances no matter the price. But there are so many good scents that aren't expensive, meaning under a 100.- a top 10 under 100.- or 120.- would be a nice video. Many Designer releases are generic atm, but for example Magie Noir by Lancome is still AMAZING and very affordable! So is Moschino Toy Boy, Versace Versence and Narciso Rodrigues pure Musc and many more 🤗
A great idea, thank you.
Hello Mr. P, thank you for all these insightful, witty and geeky reviews. Much and much appreciated!
300 pounds for a Néroli fragrances is outrageous and upsetting, now matter how well it's done. For something more affordable and just as good, I'd recommend Patricia de Nicolaï. The best of French perfumery tradition, Guerlain trained, top quality and a whole lot less expensive.
And on a completely different note: I have the exact same shirt in green! I bought it years and years ago at Agnes B. in Paris and have never seen anyone else with it!
How funny about the shirt.
Nicolai is always an excellent recommendation.
OMG YES! You're not alone! I really, really love the OG H24! I think it's a very unique perfume, a very unique designer release! Also, I really think it's a great next flag bearer for Hermes after the whole Terre D'Hermes series!
Ah, this is good to know. Thank you.
Correct, Guerlain did open a boutique in Poland. 100ml of L'Art & Somethings is around 1500 PLN, which is half of net minimum wage.
I would buy something like Portrait of a Lady or Carnal Flower in a blink of an eye. But in terms of Guerlain's exclusive line, they're just a factory line of "nice fragrances", so no chance.
Btw my holy grail of neroli (that's NOT cologne) is Floris' Neroli Voyage--a company we know you're not a fan of, but nevertheless I do recommend
Thanks for the confirmation.
These are certainly very, very expensive.
my first impression of florabloom was the same as yours! very fruity in the opening indeed. i was expecting maybe a headier floral right from the get go
Yes -- not one of the more memorable AAs.
Got Neroli Plein Sud in a sample. Finally tried it and…wow…it contrasts the floral with spices so beautifully where I get whiffs of something really delicious every now and then. I’m also surprised at its longevity because I sprayed myself 7 hours ago and I’m still smelling fresh almost fully finished with the workday. I passed on Neroli Outrenoir, but this scent is going to get on my full bottle list. Unless I find a cheapie that’s this pretty and I can keep a copy at work to reapply midday, I’d better start saving 😂.
I'm so pleased you like it too... but yes, it's not cheap!
Yes, plein sud means two things: either direction, movement towards the South; or something which is facing south, like a house facade, a garden, whatever really. For me, a French native, Néroli Plein Sud means that the tree and plant have been staying in full sunlight, in blazing, blinding sunlight even.
I thought it meant plainly south😆 Like south is the only description
Excellent - many thanks for this.
It's 1987 and I'm 26 years old, and I wore Paris all the time. It evokes the best of my 20s. And I still love it.
Would you say the current formulation is still good?
I'm so glad you reviewed Neroli Plein Sud, I felt like I would be disappointed due to the spicy notes but you made it sound so delightful
I’m really taken with it.
Thanks for watching.
@@Persolaise My pleasure. You are such a great teacher of Perfumery and life.
Yeah I think it’s kinda really great tbh! I’m a big Neroli fan though. Why it’s $400 I will never know.
@@aarond9563 That is not a bad price for 200ml. specially if you store it in a dark and cold place, it can last up to 10 years. I guess they want to keep low prices for Europe and hike up the price in the USA🤷♂️
@@R.N.19It's $400 for 100ml.
Amazingly I was able to smell all of these before watching this on catchup. Looking forward to what you think!
That’s great - I hope you enjoyed the video.
Great video and discussion as always- thanks!
I wonder how this new Neroli compares to Nicolai's Neroli Intense- the most complete neroli yet in my opinion.
That’s a good question. I’ll have to compare them one day.
As usual great reviews Persolaise. Re price increases, the majority of perfumes aren't affordable for me any moreat retail so I just buy from the secondary markets like eBay and Facebook groups. Sad really as I would like to support the brands but can't justify paying what they're asking.
Many thanks for watching.
Thank goodness for re-sellers.
Ugh..missed the live!
Caught up in fam fun today.
Next time.
You look well, Persolais..
Cheers!
Thanks very much for watching.
Really would love to get your opinion on the new guerlains. The samsara EDT appears to be weak and nothing like the original. Am I right ? This is the Bee bottle version. Perhaps the new generic bottles are even worse.
Can you shed any light on this or is it just me ? ❤
I haven't tried current Samsara, I'm afraid.
Hi I wanted to ask you a very personal question, as a young man who has really gotten into fragrances, both designer and also a lot of niche ones, is it a good idea to buy some of the most common and safe raw materials of decent quality in very low amount just to smell them and get my nose used to them, to be able to better identify what’s going on and what synthetic molecules or materials I am smelling and what kind of woods and stuff like that, I’m talking about Iso E super, synthetic sandalwood, synthetic oud, labdanum, benzoin, some musks, vetiver, and stuff like that which a regular nose isn’t as used to.
I think that depends on what you hope to achieve. If you want to gain a better knowledge of raw materials, then yes, that would be an excellent thing to do. But you don't need to have that kind of knowledge to enjoy a perfume.
The first H24 is my fav in the heat the 2nd one was okay. This new one I want to smell.
I'll be interested to know what you think of it.
My holy grail is Neroli Outrenoir. Also love Nerolia Vetiver Harvest. Haven’t be able to try this new Neroli.
You may well like this one too.
Totally agree on H24 EDT being the best, and it easily fills a room in my experience. The added herbs in Herbes Vives just didn’t mesh well with the H24 DNA in my view.
Yes, the original edt is the one for me!
Maybe you can explain why the Neroli note smells so sharp in every ‘neroli’ fragrance I seem to try. I used to live directly next to a large orange orchard in Redlands, CA (USA) wherein the actual fragrance floating from the orchard to my apartment when the trees were in full bloom, was an intoxicating smooth, deep, sweet, honeyed orangey fragrance. Nothing like a ‘Neroli’ note. Unless the actual note is not the orange blossom.
Thanks for this.
Perfumers and the perfume industry make a distinction between neroli and orange blossom because they're two different materials created by different extraction processes. They both come from the flower of the bitter orange tree, but neroli is usually produced by steam distillation whereas orange blossom is usually an absolute obtained by solvent extraction. They don't smell the same. Neroli tends to be brighter, sharper, more citrusy. Orange blossom tends to be more floral, deeper, more indolic. I hope this helps.
I am really enjoying Neroli Plein Sud. Somewhat shockingly many people who fund these higher priced Guerlains may do so using Pay in 3 facilities. Not sure what I think about this.
I’ve been a Member of ffern on and off for some years and I really like their work and ways of presentation. The perfumes are interesting.
Thanks for this. Yes, the split payment facility has been quite problematic for many people.
When you say woody ambers, do you mean aromachemicals like amberwood? Because that is what bugs me about Terre d' Hermès Eau Intense Vetiver. It's got amberwood in the base and it becomes quite apparent, to my dismay.
Yes, it’s those sorts of materials I’m talking about. I think there’s a place for them, but all too often these days, they’re overused.
@@Persolaise I wholeheartedly agree. It's become sort of a plague in modern designer releases and makes lots of things smell alike. I'm absolutely fine with most aromachemicals, but some of these woody ambers are just unpleasant to my nose, too sharp, too strong, too screechy.
Sana Jardin do an excellent, sustainably produced neroli... Berber Blonde
Thanks very much.
Have you reviewed Guerlain Yuzu Oud somewhere?
No. I never got a chance to try that one.
I tried Jasmin Bonheur, I think it’s superb , very beautiful scent, I just wish it last longer.
Thank you for this review, I can’t wait to try this parfum.
If you could review the Trump Victory 47 parfum I would be so happy. For me an independent, it’s not so triggering… I would love to know the quality of the juice , if he invested in quality too. What is the smell of that parfum? 🤔
I'm not familiar with Victory at all.
I get your point but personally I think it makes sense to talk about the price. Otherwise, to me at least, it feels like a bit of an elephant.
I know what you mean.
Thanks very much for watching.
Very welcome Daruish@@Persolaise . I haven't watched perfume content in a while or engaged in the hobby as much this past few months for several reasons.. Anyway, I smelled this yesterday visiting a mall in a city I'm moving too soon in Denver and I had to come see what people were saying. Really cool to see you're enjoying Neroli Plein Sud. If it were $200 I'd probably pull the trigger.
Guerlain has become a "cheap" brand to my eyes, if I must be honest. There are so many new releases, so many lines, so many perfumes for men, women, unisex, and add flankers on top; it's just ridiculous! I don't bother smelling anything from them anymore.
And then comes the prices!
One of the lines, extraits, I think, they are £480 for 50ml 😂
A simple bergamot and woods scent costs a quarter of somebody's salary.
And, let's not even mention their £300.000 collab bottles!
I salute your courage and honesty for speaking about prices. And yes, they have become quite ridiculous at this point.
Thanks very much for watching. Out of their many releases each year, I always find some that are excellent.
@edition_8923
Guerlain is the only house that keeps
its legendary perfumes at an affordable
price. Shalimar, Habit Rouge, Vetiver, Mon
Guerlain...all classics blended to perfection.
b
Look at what Tom Ford is doing? Mostly
discontinued gems amidst a sea of juvenile,
overpriced perfumes
Chanel? Good luck finding a classic under
100 Euros
H24 reminds me very very much to L'EAU D'ISSEY from the 1990ies. Don't you think so?
Since you ask, no, it didn’t make me think of the Miyake, but that doesn’t mean there’s no link between them.
Thanks for watching.
I would say Plein sud could be translated as Southbound maybe, there is an idea of movement, travel, and happiness to go really south, "total south" litterally
Ah, interesting. Thank you.
Layer Neroli plein Sud with Spirit/Vanille.
Thank you.
Neroli Plein Sud was obnoxious on my skin, didn’t feel very natural past the initial soapy opening. I can see it getting compliments based on how much it projects, definitely not for me. Dry and woody dry down, no sweetness to my nose.
That’s a shame. I’m thoroughly enjoying wearing it.
Thanks very much for watching.
£300 perfumes are expensive if you're a collector with a large collection and will only wear it maybe a couple time's per year.... whereas the majority of people with a few different perfumes will likely use up a bottle within a year or so, so then cost per wear/year is acceptable.
P.s. Don't worry about carcinogens in vintage perfumes.. they are no worse than carcinogenic roast coffee, bbq food, crisps, fries, cereals, pickles, meat, alcohol etc... the list goes on.
Yes, I suspect you're right.
Thanks for watching.
To each their own but H24 smelled vile, super synthetic and non Hermes like to me whilst i like l homme ideal.
Well, there we are. I know H24 has been quite polarising.
🤣🤣🤣😅 "delicious colon" Ewwwwwww
Thanks for watching!
@@Persolaise You're welcome.
I want to watch you live. I seem to miss it. How can I watch live?
I usually announce the videos about a day in advance on the Community tab here on RUclips.