Are they coming back? Never left my life since 1988! I’m still buying new and hoovering up used and early pressings. I’ve a massive collection. I agree, vinyl is getting very expensive. I have a lot of that too!
I love collecting CDs. It bugs me when new songs or albums are released only on digital. If I can't stuff a disc onto a crowded shelf to collect dust, what's the point?
Amen to that. Friends & Family (generally the younger members) look at me like I’m crazy. I bought myself a few of the recent Beatles box sets for Christmas, vinyl and CDs versions, and they were all like, can’t you just listen on Spotify or Tidal? No fun in that…..
@@RUfromthe40s Yes, I know I could, there are apps to do it from RUclips. However, I would rather it was top quality, as I listen a lot on headphones. When using headphones, the slightest defect is very noticeable. However, I do copy CDs for use in the car, or at least I used to. Leaving paid for CDs in the sun is not the best idea, but a copied one, well, just burn another. I know there are apps that you can download to Mp3, fine for the car, but for headphones, not so much! My old car used to play Mp3 from CDs, so I could cram a lot onto one CD. Convert the CD to Mp3 file, then burn to CD. My new car does not have a CD player, I find it a bit irritating! 😞
The irony for those of us born a lot before 1997 is that we remember how intimidating the $11-$15 price tag of CDs was when CDs first hit the market (on average, new records were $5-7.)
i remenber $35, it dependend on how many stores existed in your city but in 93 ,prices did came down all over the world when they manage to find a cheaper material to produce cds ,only more sensitive compared to 80´s ones
in 82 to 84 a cd was enough to buy two vinil and a good cassette to record more music,till 93 i just bought 7 cds after was when prices came down and still thinking that cds were good sounding ,i bought many that i liked ,that never listen to them till today because they sound a lot worse than the vinil records i already had
that´s candyland not even special price cds had so low price and the cheapest cds were was in early 90´s 15 to 20 dollars and 7.50 special priced ones, normally they took the sticker where it said special price or others depending on the label and sold them as new releases
As a musician, I still market my music on CDs. The sound is much clearer than a stream, plus fans have something tangible. The photos, booklets and graphics are something a stream doesn't have. In addition, I have been collecting CDs since 1988 and I still buy them today. Currently, I own 2700 CDs and I have no plans on dropping this format. Besides, when was the last time someone had asked to see someone's "streaming" collection? Long Live the CD 💿.
Arghh! a musician, I've been a DJ since 1976 and I just want to say that I totally 💯agree with you. Bet you thought I was going to slag you off, not a bit of it. Nice to see musicians and DJ's agreeing on something ha! I have to confess I rip my cd's and work from hard drive (320kbs) I have no intention of ever stopping buying these babies. Downloads are OK but you just don't get that physical buzz.
new cds have the same characteristics with streaming, at least new greek cds!hard bass, closed sound, normalization with flat waveform that surpasses the ceiling, loudness so much with gain at 98-99. It's a pity that cds have not the sound with older cds before 2010.
@@vinylmastersgr1036 you do realize that all of these factors have nothing to do with CDs but with the mixing and mastering process and the hardware music is being played. it's not like Vinyl which is analog media. CDs store digital data
@@kxdsh How do you know what bitrate he is using? Ripping CDs to WAV is the best way to go. FLAC also works but CDs share the same bitrate as WAV which means better compatibilty. Stay away from those lossy crap. The sound quality can be solved if he is playing uncompressed audio files using good digital to analog convertors.
I'm old enough to remember when CDs were first released, it was amazing because there was no surface noise, no cracks, pops like a record, no tape hiss, no need to worry about Dolby at all, it was a perfect size and looks great when you have a lot in your library.
I'm with ya. I bought my first player (a Discman... all I could afford as a high school senior in '86/'87) and my first cd purchase in 1986 was Honeymoon Suite's "The Big Prize" because it was the only DDD disc in the store, and I wanted to hear what full digital sounded like. It was blissful. Over the years, I have accumulated about 2000 CDs, many of which are unplayable today because I didn't treat them right. I will say this... in recent years I have built a respectable 2 channel listening space and have begun to buy more vinyl, and on a proper rig, there is some charm in the sound from records that I missed from the cleanliness of CDs. Not the pops and crackles, but on recordings that were engineered for vinyl rather than for CD, because there is a degree of compression when engineered for CD, and the vinyl has a sound that I can only describe as "air" since I lack the vocabulary to say it more eloquently. Picking vinyl is a tricky endeavor these days. Anyway, CDs are still very much in my crosshairs, and I still love reading through the liner notes.
Yeah but you end up living in a record store. Rip 'em to flac, bung them on a server (Raspberry Pi running OMV with a USB drive will do), you have them instantly wherever you are.
@PrinceWesterburg I felt that way about 20 years ago. When being able to have anything at the touch of a button was new and seemed like treat. These days, with Spotify, there's no need to rip music anymore. It's true that streaming quality isn't the same, but it's darn good and sounds just fine on most playback equipment. Also, it can be fun to look through all the CDs and records and be reminded of music you may have forgotten about.
@@matthewpeterson3329 Honeymoon Suite: The Big Prize wasn't my first CD, but it was the first CD I got as a birthday present (along with Depeche Mode: Music for the Masses) in 1992, on my 17th birthday. The Big Prize has really stood the test of time - I ripped it to MP3 many years ago and it's been on every one of my devices, right back to my first Zune in 2008 (I made it abundantly clear I didn't want an iPod even though they were more popular and ultimately won out). But I still prefer to have CDs as much as possible.
@@mysticwolf75 Awesome. I also bought a Zune in 2008 and returned it about a week later. I just couldn't make it work, which is most likely because I am technologically inept.
Love CDs. No matter what happens to your music collection; stored on a drive or loss of the music on a streaming service, CDs are tangible music you can actually hold in your hands with art work to enjoy when everything else crashes. Hope there's a returning trend by the music industry to start pressing CDs again.
@@iorreneft correct, but where is the problem in dragging the files onto computer storage in original quality? This way the music will survive forever and you can use it wherever you wan't without having to change cd's.
I’ve noticed at the local Walmart they were basically 4 or 5 bucks each. Those 4 and 5 dollar discs are now 9 dollars and up. Got a few thrift stores that I frequent. One place sells 10 cents each. The other a dollar each.
@@Lexy-O I disagree. If the popularity of CDs increase, the labels are going to increase the prices because people are willing to pay the higher prices and the same will happen in the second hand market.
It might be a good idea to replace your vinyl collection with CDs ASAP. Your right the price of CDs could sky rocket. CDs last longer and sound purer clear and better than snap crackle and pop vinyl.
According to a guy who works with music, the CD is very compressed compared to the recording in the record studio. Because he said in the studio they work with 32 Bit. and they use it when creating a vinyl record they do not use a CD as a source
Not true sony has had copy-protected CDs even though those discs were not allowed to have the compact disc symbol. it was is a file on the disks that could cause you to have problems with your computer
Already in the 80's, the record companies demanded a copy ban on DAT players. so you could only make a perfect digital copy of your CD. for a time, it was not even allowed to sell DAT in the United States. the record companies went to court
I am a HUGE fan of of ANY physical media. And it's important we don't let it die! I'm a bit of a audiofile head to an extend, and I am currently using my CD-Rom drive in my desktop with EAC to rip them into WAV files. Sounds so amazing all together! Way better then the streaming platforms.
Rip them into FLAC or APE instead, they compress without losses (as in zip compression) and you don't have to have files so big as WAV, while retaining ALL the sound information bit by bit, meaning an exact audio copy of the original
Also physical media is something they can’t take away from you! As in the SpongeBob episode Mid Life crustacean they took that off of iTunes and also the streaming service and also Sony took away Mythbusters and Deadliest Catch from ppl who actually PURCHASED it because they lost the license for those showsso the ppl who spent so much money for it so if it’s important to me I mean very important physical is the way to go for me!
Cd is the perfect median. You own the music, and if you take care of it it lasts a lifetime. The cd dumping of the last few years has been a bonanza for collectors like me. I've been buying favorites for 5-6 bucks....life is beautiful.
never stopped buying CDs. i think they're the coolest music format. i am not really a vinyl person but everytime i see a colored vinyl records i wanted to collect them too haha
Dude, I started buying the odd vinyl I thought was cool over the years (collect mostly cds) but the crazy thing is, the vinyl ones have quadrupled in price. Some of them now over 400 bucks each! I'm sure I dont have a cd worth that
I completely agree with you... CDs are coming back. I've owned vinyl since the 80s and still buy the odd album, but for about the past 6 - 12 months I've been grabbing CDs, largely at thrift stores and used stores where I'm getting them for 1 or 2 dollars each... I have a feeling these "dollar days" will come to an end...
A few years ago you could get the most iconic CD's from thrift stores (op shops) for a couple of dollars. In 2022 it seems like that time has passed, most of the top content has long been harvested.
It’s truely amazing how CDs are still being sold over 40 years after release! I collect them and have a Sony Mini Hifi system from the early 2000s and I think they sound great. It’s so refreshing to not get caught up with ads and other crap filling streaming services these days. Just pure, high quality digital music. Happy that more people understand the value of CDs!
I remember buying my first CD player back and I want to say 1982 it was a Yamaha player I paid I think $450 back then which was kind of a lot of money in my opinion it's funny you say after 40 years the CD format is not that old compared to the vinyl format which goes Way Way Back
@@dobermanguy9437 yeah wow! That’s amazing do you still have the player? I guess there was no real successor to CDs when it comes to a physical format. You had things like minidisc and DCC but they never really saw home hifi adoption. I was born in the mid 2000s and I still used CDs up until around 2016 when Spotify started to become popular here in Australia
CDs first overtook vinyl in 1993 in UK. At that point, vinyl too had been going for about 40 years. Like CD, vinyl took around 10-11 years from being introduced to being the best-selling format.
@@hello_mate8974 yes it was. Ended up building a new setup but my sister enjoys the CP11. Sounds pretty good given the price I paid. The rubber on the drivers on my speakers are worn though
I remember seeing CDs 💿 for the first time back in 1984 (they were originally introduced in 1982). I had started collecting LPs in 1974, enjoyed collecting them, but eventually sold off my record collection of over 3,000 LPs in 2001, basically because of space. I started buying CDs exclusively in 1989, and still collect them today. Long live CDs 🌈✌️💿 and physical music.
After listening to mostly streamed and compressed music for 5-6 years, going back to CDs has been a revelation. I love it. It’s so much nicer on the ears!
@@Scotty-P If you like some extra harmonical distortion, higher noise floor and an occasional pop then yes, go for vinyl. The more expensive the turntable, the more it sounds like a CD.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 There are literally dozens of blind listening tests on the net where people couldn't hear the difference between 256kbps or higher mp3 vs losless. MP3 is perfectly fine.
I'm only 14 and I was caught in this trend of buying cds, I definetely have almost 200 now and I could see myself having loads and loads by the time I'm in my own place lmao. I'm glad they made a comeback
You nailed it on the head with your mentioning that a physical CD (or LPs and cassettes), if taken care of, is always available in our collections. While an artist can pull their music off a streaming service or the streaming service may even go out of business. I've been trying to drill that fact home with people who are supporters of streaming music over having CD collections. The point being, when you are relying on a streaming company to control of your music collection, your favorite music could disappear. You are renting access to your music with streaming. If that streaming service decides so and so's band is no longer worth keeping on their servers due to low listeners, they can delete that artist. With having a CD collection, you can go to your shelf and listen to that CD no matter if it is in print or is popular or not. During this pandemic, I have been buying tons of used CDs on Discogs at such fair prices. It can be a fantastic way to fill in missing albums in my CD collection and try music that I haven't thought of previously. Plus, buying physical media, especially directly from independent bands/ artists goes a long way to helping that artist keep making music and earn a living. Streaming royalties are generally rubbish. Streaming devalues music by making it completely disposable.
I found out last night that Apple can remove “your album “ from your own library also not just streaming. What you download from iTunes is technically a streamed copy and not an album I heard that years ago but didn’t really think about it but yes, the artist and album have been removed from iTunes Store and from my devices that are online, I still have the album because I use a digital audio player to listen to music not my phone but I have a cd of the artist which I had to import from Japan and that was to replace the cd I bought in the late 80’s which I gave to a Japanese girl who was a bit homesick, that one was bought in a major metro area in Australia in the country area I live in there isn’t a lot of international titles available.
@@aural_supremacy : I've never had that with iTunes, however, in the past I did experience that very thing quite often from Spotify - even if I'd physically downloaded the album to my device....!! 😳 NOT good!! 😩 All the same, I grew up when LPs and cassettes were the main way to buy music, and even though I enjoy digital downloads for the convenience, in 99% of cases, I have the original either on LP, CD, or Cassette as well, and still buying physical too.. No-ones taking THAT bastard away from me!! 😂👍🏻
I believe the digipacks are due to 1) cheaper to manufacture and 2) more environmentally friendly. There are bags special made for the digipacks if you want to protect them better.
@@ModernKaveman digipacks are not cheaper the materials used are expensive it was a try of giving importance to art cover that it got lost ,no one looks to covers or inlay pappers with diminished letters with lyrics that mostly seem litle black dirt on colour pages
5:53 AAD: First letter means the content on the CD was recorded on analog. Second letter means the recording was MIXED in analog. Third letter means it was mastered in digital, which would obviously be the case for all CDs.
I almost got rid of my CDs last year because I can stream Spotify through my Sony amp/Wharfdale speakers. But then one day I played a song on CD straight after listening to the streaming version and was bowled over by the difference in quality. The result was that instead of dumping my discs, I upgraded to a brand new Denon CD player. Then I bought a new Teac tape deck so I can make mix tapes from my CD/vinyl collection. I rarely stream anymore. Physical media sounds better to my ears and simply brings me more enjoyment. I hope more people in the future discover that they feel the same way.
i use streaming for those days when it´s too cold and arrive from work completely wasted ,in a sofa i push my keyboard and listen to all ,instead of looking for in several shelfs filled with records and cds but when listening to music i like to hear all that was recorded and spotify isn´t that good but aceptable, making playlists it´s fine and easy but not all is there , around 2018 i remenber to record a minidisc with a playlist from spotify and well done again the md player for the car, the same with cassettes ,even crossfaded
Regarding the sound quality, especially as compared to streaming or mp3, I couldn't agree more. Those sources just don't deliver the dynamic range that really bring the music alive. I stream and I like the convenience of it, certainly, but I love having the CD's too.
I have to correct you. SACD. it is not 24 bit. It is not PCM at all on SACD. SACD is DSD digital direct stream. a system with 1 bit so only two positions positive and negative. but extremely high sampling rate. which should give it more analog in character to the sound. and the sound can also be in true 5.1 sound, ie surround. SACD is still produced, for example, by mofi and analog production on Acoustic Sounds, there are currently 1390 SACD's. DSD is available in different levels. eg dsd 64 which means 64 times higher sampling than on a regular CD. DSD128 and DSD256 are also available.
Something else to note is that I think the culture of streaming has really changed one's relationship to music compared to when people owned physical media. I grew up listening to tapes and then CDs in the 90s, and I always had my collection on hand. I would constantly look through my collection to see what I wanted to listen to, and was continuously being reminded of older stuff I had. With streaming, I think there's a tendency to forget stuff you liked in the past, cause it's not visually in front of you, so you tend to listen to whatever is new, and a lot of great music can start to be lost. I remember in 1996, looking through my CD collection, I would pick out stuff that I bought in 1992 or 1992 as much as the newer stuff, cause it was always visually and physically in front of me, and I don't think that's the same as with streaming. I'm sure there will be people getting back into CDs for nostalgia, or younger people romanticizing a past they were not part of (many who grew up in the 90s would romanticize the 70s), and there are plenty of real pros to CDs, like the sound quality, or the sleeve art, the physicality etc. but I think having a physical collection does affect the way you listen to music.
100% true. Interacting with objects- be it books, CDs, records - is entirely different from using digital media. Objects form a ‘story’ of sorts, and can lead you forward or back and make unexpected connections. Great analysis!
I started buying cds in the late 80’s but never quit buying vinyl. Through the years i managed to get the best of both worlds while building a large music collection and i will continue to do so.
It’s great that CD’s are making a comeback. I have tons and tons of CD’s. I collect more Cassettes and Vinyl, but it’s nice to know that there truly is a market for all these physical formats. I’m happy CD’s and Cassettes are coming back stronger than ever.
It's such a buyers market right now, but, then again, I never stopped buying CDs. When you can get topnotch albums used for $1 on clearance at Half Price Books it just makes total sense. I have a world-class collection for a fraction of the cost of vinyl LPs. I've been buying them since 1984 when they were like $18 a disc. Don't pay anything close to that today.
@@ontherhodes8088 I took thousands of vinyl LPs and Singles to the tip when I moved house, didn't have room for them and didn't have time to sell them on or pass them on to anyone! I was a bit upset, but a woman has to have a new house!! :-((
My very first cd was Madonna's Like a Virgin which I bought way back 1984. Still plays like a dream. Now I have around 2000 and I don't intend to stop collecting.
my first cd was a version of a doble lp from CCR "chronicle" that came out for what today is 7€ in a magazine than i bought also for 5€ the soft parade by the Doors, some say it´s a bad album but i like it since new and it sounds very good
Me too. I bought Like a Virgin, then all the other Madonna's album. And then i got my very first cd player (that i still have, and still run very good) the Technics Slp-220. I still remember the first moment when i putted the cd in the tray and pushed play. I cannot believe my ears...no hiss, no noise, only music. And during the pause...absolute silence! Fantastic!
For me CD never went away. Been buying most of my music on CD since 1992, and still do buy CDs till this day. While I've got a collection of iTunes downloads, I've never paid for a streaming service and don't intend to start. And I've been loving buying CDs for $1 - $5 on eBay or at thrift stores, but figure those days are likely coming to an end. Excluding niche formats such as SACD or DVD Audio, CD is still the highest quality format thats accessible to most people, and allows you to hear music the way it was meant to be listened to. Its yours forever (unless you sell, give away, or lose the disc, or it gets damaged of course), its a one time purchase with no ongoing fees, and since most people are getting rid of them, they're cheaper than ever. There's nothing but upsides to them in my book. :)
I have always loved CD's. I have about a thousand CDs in my collection. I still buy them so in my book they never went out of style, and I'm glad that they are making a comeback, even though they never went away. 😁
Absolutely CDs are coming back. Sure downloads are convenient but most cost more than CDs. And at Amazon you get the download for free with the purchase of most discs sold by Amazon. I always prefer to buy the CD.
CDs never went away. I've always been able to buy my favorite album on CD, even when streaming got popular. Yes, vinyl has made a comeback and I buy vinyl sometimes too. The thing that a lot of people have realized is that you don't own anything with streaming. Without an internet connection you have nothing. With a CD or vinyl, you always have that music.
Always loved cds. I collect different genres but most predominantly metal, pop, R&B, house, trip hop. Alas, due to financial issues, had to sell most of them. Now I'm left with a couple of cds. Usually I would rip the cds to .flac for archiving purposes and portability
May I recommend to you a short-lived Aussie band called McPhee. They released only 1 album, in 1971 - self titled heavy psychedelic rock album. The lead singer, Faye Lewis.
Born in 69 I went from vinyl to cassette, back to vinyl for a brief period, and then went CD from about 1986 onward. Did dabble a little bit with SACD in the early 2000s. You just can't beat physical media. You have a lifelong back up that will never be converted into some subscription-based streaming BS. Storage is so cheap now, it is ridiculous. I can fit all my music on one USB flash drive. Although not as cool as LP cover art, still nice to have some artwork with your music. Recently I hauled out a lot of my CDs (I have hundreds) and finally categorized them and ripped to FLAC format. (side note: don't try this on one of those crappy USB-powered CD drives for laptops. Get a proper internal or AC powered external DVD drive) It's better quality than the MP3s you get off of Amazon. On my home system, which is pretty decent. I can hear the difference. Also agree with you about the "remasters". Sometimes they are a clear improvement if done right, but usually they just are cranked up to 11 and you actually lose some dynamic range.
My family has always been into physical media - my late father had a VHS collection numbering about a hundred tapes. I grew up watching VHS tapes as a young kid in the late 1980s, through the 1990s and then once the 2000s arrived (2002 to be exact) I started collecting DVDs - my absolute favourite format. I converted my VHS tapes to DVD and now have about 2000 DVDs. There is something about DVDs that makes them special - particularly when watching films made pre-1997 (the date DVDs hit the market), where the films were shot with actual film (or in some cases directly onto VHS video) gives off a certain atmosphere that digital film stock films lack. The best films to watch on DVD are those made from the 1980s, regardless of the print quality, as this format gives 80s films their best airing. 1990s films come a close second.
CDs did disappear from stores for a while, but have recently made a slow comeback. I'm buying again. DVDs never lost momentum, and seem to have increased in number with old TV shows in compliation and old movies being rereleased.
For classical music, there is no substitute for CDs. In addition to greater dynamic range, CD prices can't be beat. In the past year, I have purchased entire catalogs of conductors, soloists, and orchestras from 1960s to the present for $2-$3 per NEW CD. For the price of 4 LPs, I can own 100 CDs.
Good point. In the battle between analogue and digital, your point often gets missed - likely because most people are buying rock, pop, or jazz. I've had a bad case of "boxed-set-itis" over the past 10 years or so (only cured by retirement and living in a country with an abysmal postal system) and have bought dozens of boxed sets (total number of CDs I own is around 6,300.) By clicking 4 times over a period of a year or so, I was able to buy all of Herbert von Karajan's DG recordings, amounting to over 300 CDs. Not only are they a hell of a good price, it's very likely that even if I wanted to buy the albums, it would be near impossible to collect them.
Now the record companies usually have low dynamics on CDs. and the record companies think that audiophiles or people who like classical music buy music on another medium such as Hi-res or SACD or Vinyl. or maybe listening to Qobus or Tidal
@@Andersljungberg CD with good mastering without compression is a top format. CD sound as a shit since loudness war has started in the past. But it's a good format.
Cds never went away for me, about as good a sound as the human ear can get and its a physical format for collectors even though the fragile plastic cases can be a problem sometimes. Vinyl is ok but has issues with jumping and crackles and is a space hog while tape is a rose tinted memory that's only good for studio recordings .cds the best format.
Providing of course the recording was done properly and has good audio reproduction. So many CD’s are very poor audio quality due to poor recording techniques.
@@RUfromthe40s I would argue that recording in the 1960s was still primitive even on later beatles recordings so a better comparison would be eg pink floyd dark side of the moon or kraftwerk man machine from the 1970s both albums sound louder and clearer on cd.
@@johnk6312 you don´t even know how better they sound ,i started to buy cds when the price droped around early 90´s and my mistake was comon ,they said it was much better but one when listening to cds ,if knowing the LP´s would have notice at first time listening that the sound was wrong and it´s not me only ,it´s the ones who developed the digital format that couldn´t make the analog sound captured by microphones sound equal when converted to digital the problem is the digital convertion doesn´t know what´s noise and what are analogue sounds ,they are entirelly cut ,bass and drums sound ok but very linear sound as guitars ,keyboards(electronic ones), and voice are not converted directelly as in analog ,i have examples :if you want listen to guitars in a rock lp as in vinil ,then put the cd playing and tell me what happened to the guitars, they sound very wrong and the volume is under the voice and bass line and drums become almost like todays digital drums ,sound good but a continuous beat not as a drumer plays when striking the leather.
The very 1st. CD I bought was Wild Honey / Smiley Smile by The Beach Boys. (2 albums on one disc). Can't remember why because at that time I wasn't a super fan... an impulse I guess...but I was delighted by the thing. The second and 3rd. CDs that I bought were Grasping At Straws and Misplaced Childhood by Marillion. I still like the physicality of a CD. Long may they continue.
That Sony DVP-S9000ES DVD/CD/SACD player you showed is a fantastic unit! The analog section is incredible with high end audio grade capacitors and components. I'm surprised they are still affordable, even on eBay. Not many CD players built that well that are still reasonably priced.
@@HiFiTurtle wow that was a fantastic deal! I paid a bit more, but still feel these are diamonds in the rough. How about all of that copper and the 30lb weight? It’s built like a tank!!
@@wal i did bought one be cause i wanted to listen how better the SACD sounds and i kind of liked the sound but why didn´t they start to deliver all cds with 2 channel technology of SACD , i tried to listen with a av amplifier at a friends house but i really didn´t like the way it sounds with a surround system it´s kind of a curiosity but not what i expected to hear when this friend of mine startesd to say how incredible it sounds but i would prefer better two channel sound than a complete 7.something divided tracks on one stereo recording, i since a lot of years conect my t.v and some years later my video system to my stereo equipment and liked it that way it sound incredible, once a friend of mine after listening to a video he asked me if i had a DTS system that i don´t really know what it is ,i know it´s the sound type of the cinema i go to watch new movies but technically i don´t know how diferent is from surround patern(sorry but my english doesn`t go that far, in tech. explained). Regards
Cd's, dvds and blu-rays are the best.. no need to subscribe, log in or worry about them disappearing, the storage last longer than thumb drives, hard drives, ect. ect. dont forget all play stations with a disc drive can also play audio cds..
I started re-collecting CDs about 5 years ago. Most of mine were originally bought in the late 80s and early 90s. A lot of my old favorite artists were still making new music, and that's when I rediscovered them. However, I don't actually listen to the CD live. I collect them in a box, each one in a protective plastic sleeve and in a box after I admire and rip them to music files. I play the "albums" from my computer through it's bluetooth to an inexpensive bluetooth receiver, and from my receiver I have old fashioned speakers plugged in, powered by the receiver. All the music programs for Andriod phones are pure awful, so I normally don't use my smartphone's bluetooth, except when away from home (I have a copy on my smartphone too). Those modern Andriod music programs are geared toward singles, not albums. But on my computer I easily organize them by artist, then albums, and I play the actual album, not single music files. I love it like that, just like playing a whole CD. The reason why Andriod music programs are pure awful is that the established cultural powers are hell-bent against albums and artists and want to hold them back to extent reasonably possible. Rock artists have been singing about them wanting to destroy ROCK music for generations now, and believe it or not, they're right. The entire music industry, including albums and CD labels, are all mutually dependent on one another, fully interdependent and interlinked. They way they successfully demolished most of Rock and music industry is cannibalizing the industry from within, most notably with itunes, and then the streaming music platforms. Teens that use to collect albums generations ago no longer collect, they and others have been streaming music. What that leads to is the habit of listening to songs till tired of it, then never listening to it again. One a streaming service lapses or goes out of business, then so to all those tunes. And, the tunes are saved in libraries that aren't album oriented. So everybody just forgets about the music after listening to fulfillment. Lots of teens who grew up in the early 2000s can't even remember the music they listened to, and they have zero access to the music they once bought. It's just forgotten music. However, teens from the 70s and 80s sometimes have enormous album collections (or CDs, tapes or 8tracks even). They periodically show them off, for instance a popular band, take Led Zepplin, they might show off their Led Zepplin IV album to youth from the current generation, then presto, they are hooked on those albums. That goes for GnR's Appitite, Metallica's Black album, Def Leppard's Hysteria, Aerosmith's 70s albums, and their comeback album 1987's Permanent Vacation (the last album Aerosmith did macho style with Steven Tyler's yak-yak-yak-yeow metal screamin'. After that they turned to soul rock with Tyler doing love squeels. Now, for folks who stream Aerosmith for example, all their music is blended together: 70s Rock, 80s Metal, 90s Soul Music, 2000s forward sweet love ballads, all blended together like stew. It's very similar to other artists that have been around for generations and making music all the while. The result: loss of their personality and growth and evolution as artists, they are now just a single photo snapshot in musical time. Not interesting for many. All things considered, there is less long term interest in artists because it's difficult to visualize them growing, so folks don't track them year by year because they figure "nothing ever changes, they are who they are and Ive already got their best songs streaming" so they don't track the artists. The music industry collapsed because it didn't sell music. It didn't sell music because streaming songs sold have zero collectable, as soon as the listener tires of the tune, they don't track the artists and forget about the songs. And, they only purchase whatever is on the radio, if that. Artists no longer made much money making new albums, so they didn't make new albums very often. The quality of music suffered, that added another reason to not collect music. The government got more involved in controlling the cultural aspects of music making and pumping billions$$ into controlling Rock radio stations, the music award industries and investing heavily in record labels, and this was all done without news coverage. As for their Front of Control: they used the PMRC to stick labels on albums with bad lyrics, all the while outside channels encouraged deviant outtrage on album. The result: an excess of album for the public to bemoan (that was step 1) . . . step 2, the public loses interest in collecting music. Now, today, we live in a world where the music industry was heavily injured by those actions. The public has suffered through a mega loss of quality music while the cultural powers patiently wait for the last rock bands and rock stars to completely die out. It's a long term project they are patiently engaged in: cultural engineering. As for me, I buy my CDs, collect them and save the media and cool booklets that come with them. I enjoy the music which as actually improved thanks to quality recording technology becoming exponentially more affordable. Even so, they bands I love are all now getting very old, and sadly, they are almost gone. It's up to folks to now stream music to STOP NOW, and START COLLECTING. They will enjoy it tremendously. And better yet, decades from now they will have something magnificent to share with upcoming generations, and they will all be mega shocked at the cultural changes [of the future] which we are yet to know about, but rest assured, the cultural engineers have it planned for them right now, with minor changes as they go along by the new powers that be . . . . As a result of all that, stereo equipment industries scaled back production as well, to a tiny fraction of equipment sell today. (that's why I use cheap computer equipment to rip CDs, much cheaper because the music industry was hit so hard) . . . the solution is: collect music on real media: CDs, albums, tapes . . please
My dad was the engineer who repaired the CD moulding machines at Philips DuPont Optical (PDO) in Blackburn, UK (that was later Polygram, Seagram, Deluxe etc). The process came from the 12” LaserDiscs. They made a lot of CDs for Polygram (as it was a Philips company) and they were very keen on stating whether the disk was “AAD” etc etc. This was the factory that produced the infamous “bronzed” disks. I had a summer job there carrying boxes about and they had a problem with a new auto-packing machine that was slightly crimping the libretti (which is what they called the paper inserts). They had a problem with the production of Anthrax “Persistence of Time” cd. I rushed out and bought it and yes, the machine that was causing trouble put some slight indentations on the booklet. The CD is proudly bronzed too lol. The factory was very proud of the product and employed lots of skilled people, despite the disk rot!!!! My summer job was in the CD packing department and I was amazed by the quality control, even at this stage.
The first CD I ever purchased was 'Are you Experienced' by the Jimi Hendrix Experience. I grew up in the era of cassette tapes, but I did outgrow that format and embraced CDs. I still collect CDs to this day and my Sony Discman is definitely a prized possession! I have a pretty large collection and I never intend to get rid of it. I bought quite a few CDs just a few days ago...CDs beat streaming for me, as I love the physical aspects of it! I only have a Spotify account to 'sample' albums of interest ;)
I was at a local thrift store where I live and I picked up the SACD release of Pink Floyd Dark Side Of The Moon for 1.99 USD. I just need to pick up an SACD player so I can enjoy it lol
If you're buying used CD's, make sure to hold them up to the light to make sure it doesn't have CD rot. You'll notice pits and sometimes holes in the reflective layer that's sandwiched between the clear plastic. I've had a few like that.
@@fraudsarentfriends4717 Nope. You have to be especially careful with CD's from the very first few years of the format, 83- 85 or so. They didn't have the manufacturing process down yet and a lot of CD's from that era are prone to rot. I speak from experience. I've run into quite a few discs with pinholes in them -- which itself is not always an indication of rot but it's still especially prevalent with CD's from that era.
I’m glad the cd’s are coming back, because there are CD players that have pitch controls, which I personally love. And from my point of view, the CD players are available in music stores, like Sam Ash & Guitar Center.
yes they never stoped selling cd players or cds so this comeback seems a play to make people buy cds because yesterday they were kind of forgoten but today it´s come back time , and pitch is comon on cd players since early 90´s so congratulations for using this function ,are you a dj?i worked with the first denon professional that the controls could be screwed to the top of the mixing table and the players in other place
@@edwincancelii2917 till 93 only bought 7 cds but as i was the owner of a radio station ,i had all the cds i could get and also worked as a dj for 35 years but i never used cds ,records and two sl-1200mkII were more practical
If they truly ARE making a comeback, record companies should put them back in jewel cases with decent booklets. I'm sick of nearly every new album I buy coming in some bullshit cardboard fold out pack. Some are just an open sleeve and the disc can just fall out the back! They don't fit in racks properly, the corners wear out in no time no matter how careful you are, and just pushing the disc in the cardboard sleeve can easily scratch it. I have CDs I bought 35 years ago, when they were all in decent protective jewel cases. They still look brand new, because I look after them, and so do the original cases!
I agree, Sarge! I can't actually understand why there are music collectors who complain about the jewel boxes for a Compact Disc! A jewel box is supposed to protect a CD as well as possible; and for me it does so very well.🔉🎼🎵🎶
I made the transition from cassette and vinyl to cds when the format was released and I’ve only bought cds since. There is just something so satisfying about having a physical copy of the release with artwork etc like you mentioned. Even when downloads were at their peak if a physical copy of the DL was available I would buy it. IMO cds are the perfect format for collectors that do not have the vinyl bug. I did vinyl as a kid bc it was the only format available and have no desire to go back....long live CDs!
@@thatperson9292 because if you use cassette as a primary format the tapes/cassettes don’t have a long life span relative to albums and cds. The tape gets stretched or eventually eaten and then your out one of your favorite releases.
I came to CDs fairly late, around 1998 I think, just because growing up we simply couldn't afford to splash out on a CD player, not when we already had a faulty Amstrad Music Centre, with turntable, tuner and cassette deck. But once we finally got one I had no desire to go back to vinyl or cassettes. About 12 years ago I got myself set up with a half-decent Denon system... Just a CD player, an amp and a pair of speakers for about £500, which is a third of what my mate paid just for his turntable. Despite all the money he's thrown at his system, I still think my CDs sound better than his vinyls.
CDs are a great source of uncompressed (bit wise) audio if you do your own remasters. Beware that some have been released more than once and some of the newer ones have dynamic range compression applied and even clipped waveforms. My advice is to find the oldest UPC code and get that one first. You can always normalize or add some compression if they are not loud enough but you can’t undo clipping, at that point it’s too late to fix it. Imports are also a good source of alternate versions and some sound better than the US release. You can then make what ever file format you like. If you want to go beyond remastering you can try full restoration and fix tape dropouts and glitches that existed in the analog master.
I know what you mean. I bought the digital download of Pat Benetar Greatest Hits-Remastered. Honestly, some of the tracks sound terrible. Remastered doesn't always mean better. I'd throw that out if I could find a vinyl or cd version of the "not remastered" album.
@@allenpamscofield The Van Halen CDs that are available now are a clipped distorted mess, no dynamic range at all. I had to get the old first releases off e-bay to get source that was even fixable. After I did the remastering on those and got the levels up to using all the bits they sound fantastic. It's amazing how many releases there are out there. For example there are at LEAST 9 different Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon CDs out there and they all sound different.
Yep. The Loudness Wars did more to ruin the reputation of CDs than anything else. I'd go for the earliest possible pressing, and I'd avoid later remasters like the plague.
@@ericschulze5641 OK, I'll call it "restoration". However, many "masters" no longer exist either lost in the Universal vault fire or just unplayable from time and poor storage. So a CD may be the best source still in existence. It's good enough for me to start with for my collection. Modern technology and fix almost any issue it has.
CD are really the best way to keep music in your collection. I always buy the physical copy and rip my music. I love to just pick out my favorite songs on mp3 format. My phone is my Mp3 player for my car or stereo in my house. I have not left CDs.
It's good to play and own CDs you have purchased, individuals tracks or full albums that you can own the streaming platforms are too expensive & only provide a loan. Your able to skip & reply tracks much more easily ...plus once purchased it's yours.
I never stopped buying CDs. I don't buy as many as I did 20 years ago, but still a few discs per month. Streaming is great for finding new music, and if I really like something, I just go ahead and buy the CD.
not left, but 2021 was the first year in a long time where CD sales increased year over year instead of declining. It was a big jump, ~50% according to Forbes
Pedantic Police here ... SACD (and DSD64 specifically) is not 96khz/24-bit. It is a 2.8Mhz/1-bit sampling rate/bit depth. The 64 comes into play as 2.8Mhz is 64x the CD's 44.1khz sample rate. CD is PCM (pulse code modulation) while SACD/DSD is PDM (pulse density modulation). Also, while the shiny discs do look the same, SACDs have a mark on them indicating their format (as do the jewel case, too).
The ℗ date on any musical medium (including vinyl) is the sound recording copyright date, and was first used in 1972. It shows when that particular recording was first mastered and released. CDs were not in general release until the early 1980s, and most of those early CDs used the same mastering tapes as vinyl or tape versions of the recordings to make digital masters. These may have been the original analog masters, or more likely copies of that original masters sent to various countries. Remastered CDs (or any other medium including downloads) are sound recordings that have used (if possible) the earliest generation master tape to make digital masters for duplication. During this process, noise reduction, equalization, compression, or other electronic adjustments may be implemented to make the resulting sound different than the original master. This constitutes a new sound recording that can be copyrighted with an updated ℗ date. That is the primary reason for remastering and re-issuing music every few years: to extend copyright protection for the owners of the recordings, not necessariy to provide improved audio quality. In fact, many remastered recordings sound worse, especially when excessive compression is used (check out "loudness wars").
Never knew they went away in the first place. It's nice to have a physical copy of the music, and with a CD I can rip the audio onto a computer, put the files on my phone and listen to them anytime I want. I could never comprehend streaming. Why keep paying money for something you don't even own a copy of?
In most cases, I use Spotify to determine which CD or vinyl should I collect, thats how streaming worth for in my opinion, and I love to collect music I loved
They are consummately durable. A forty-year-old CD sounds just as good today as then. Classical CD's are dirt-cheap because many of the original owners (classical music has always skewed elderly) are dying off. Credible playback is cheap, contrasting to the expensive turntables, tonearms, and cartridges that one needs to avoid tearing up the vinyl disk. You can get adequate sound from an old cast-off DVD player available cheaply at a thrift store. The recording industry never successfully pushed an improved technology like Blue-Ray disks that might offer wider range of sound or more detailed sound. The CD is the top-quality medium that most people have. By the way -- analogue recording that prevailed into the 1970's was a literal art of engineering; early digital recording was often done on veritable autopilot.
How can CD's make a comeback when they never went out of fashion in the fist place? Compact Disc, in its non-compressed, non MP3 glory days, is the BEST medium ever.
MP3s can sound as good as the CDs if you do it right. Part of the problem is is everybody crush them down to nothing so they wouldn’t take up any space and then they sounded like crap.
Okay, but not exactly, Scott; the best music medium is the Vinyl Record. HOWEVER, it has been said to hear analogue at its fullest it is Open Reel to Reel. I cannot personally say so with Open Reel since I've had no actual listening experience. Anyhow, from my listening experience the Compact Disc is a very close second place, followed by the cassette tape in third place; and pre-recorded in Dolby B.🔉🎼🎵🎶
@@georgeanastasopoulos5865 - Vinyl can't handle an extreme dynamic range. Digital captures it and can then very easily reproduce it. Nobody has used reel to reel in decades, and only extremely few people at that. Nothing wrong with cassette tapes, but you need a damn good tape deck, a very high quality blank cassette, and at least Dolby C - not Dolby B - in your deck. But good sound begins at the recording technique, and a proper venue to realistically capture the sound. This is most important for symphony orchestras.
@Scott Hullinger Yes, I understand, Scott; but from what I know, I've collected pre-recorded cassette tapes recorded with Dolby B. But then I have not collected many Prerecorded music cassettes that I believe have Dolby C; so I'm not certain. Another reason that as I prefer to listen to analogue playback it is from a record, instead of any cassette tape, anyhow. I have plenty of Type 2, and Metal (Type 4) cassette tapes that I've recorded on Dolby C, so I certainly am aware of a difference, and improvement in the sound. Anyhow, I grew up in the 1960s, to the end of the 1980s. Therefore, I mostly listened to FM radio, records, 8 Track Tape, then shortly afterward the Cassette Tape from the 1970s,1980s; to the early nineteen nineties. Almost off the topic, because there are plenty of younger vinyl listeners on RUclips who may not be aware; during the Winter Season there is more Static Electricity in the air. Static electricity is responsible for causing those annoying pops, and clicks mostly from a vinyl disc! However, today, there are newer technologies of expensive, high performance MM phono cartridges. Therefore, there is Audio Technica, Ortofon, Goldring, Grado, and Nagaoka - that has a separate, superior magnet assembly from the manufacturer's claim - that has better, wider stereo imaging. These new cartridges have more dynamic range, and track very well. There is also the case of an elliptical stylus, Shabata, and Microline, and whatever else a phono cartridge manufacturer has accomplished, and made to pick up a more accurate, and fuller sound. I personally don't know, and cannot say that these technological, and engineering advancements make much of a difference; for a more complete musical playback, but it adds a bit more. You are certainly correct about dynamic range, and lower noise, even when compared to a Moving Coil cartridge; but then it's about what you prefer. I mostly prefer to listen to music from vinyl disc; but I must admit that after the early 1990s the CD is the preferred playback. 🔉🎼🎵
There are a lot of good buys at yard sales and flea markets. I've gotten decent CDs for $0.25 and even $0.10 each. It's a cheap way to build a CD base. I rip all my CDs in lossless to my HDD and have a 2 point back up system (PC and external drive) in case something happens to them. I can also easily convert things to different formats, making it easy to transfer to various media (phone, memory stick, even a mix CD). I use dbpoweramp tools to convert formats.
Each conversion affects the sound. and CDs today have very poor dynamics especially pop music. loudness war. People report that the same music in other formats may have better dynamics. It may have to do with the fact that people who buy music in other formats are expected by a more expensive stereo and value sound quality higher. what are the other formats response Hi-res and Vinyl or other types of media. such as the SACD
CDs need to make a comeback. I hate listening to pandora or spotify and have to hear an ad every other song. Or hear an ad because I want to listen to a song again. Still got most of my CD collection since high school and nothing beats a CD.
I never stopped buying CDs. The record industry doesn't want CDs because it means providing an actual product to the consumer, and not just some easily revocable DRM subscription software. The same applies to the gaming industry. Streaming audio has its place, but I'll stick with physical since it never truly expires. If CDs are making a comeback, will new cars have CD players again? I certainly hope so. They are getting harder and harder to find these days..
Kept the vast majority of my CDs. Still enjoy them. That said, my hifi setup is amp, streamer, iPhone in, CD player, 3 head cassette deck, turntable, and minidisc player ! I like it all 😃 I still love hunting CDs in the thrift stores. But I’m super fussy about condition. Any scratches and I put it back, you will always find another, and that seems to mean I have good sounding disks.
mini disks sound so good and metal cassettes have a beautiful sound played loud. Same with super vhs. Used to record gigs with a super vhs. the sound strips are so wide its cd quality.
Great to hear from lots of like minded people. I went early into CDs, in those days there wasn’t much available. I remember they were $20 and quickly rose to $25. That was a lot of money in the early 80s! Taking inflation into account CDs are one of the few commodities that have actually reduced in price. Like many others have said, have picked up some great titles second hand for cheap in physical stores and on eBay. Love the thrill of the hunt. Have 1000+ and still growing. I don’t use Spotify unlike so many people I know, as many have commented you just can’t beat owning the physical copy!
Physical media is great! There's so much art in covers, booklets, and even on the CD itself that's lost to most digital/streaming releases. I feel like it's also a lot more secure. Sure, CDs can scratch; but streaming services and online hosts can take down songs at any time. Not to mention streaming services won't work without an Internet connection. All you need to listen to any sort of physical media is a few batteries or a power outlet. I always listen to music while I'm driving, so I carry a stack of CDs wherever I go. They're way more reliable than radio signals and WiFi; so for me it's especially disheartening to see most new cars stop offering CD players, or even aux jacks in some extreme cases. I feel like one of the driving forces bringing CDs back is actually Kpop. It's not my cup of tea, but some of my friends are really into it. Kpop CD releases will often come with a bunch of different collectible album cover variations, photo books, postcards, and a whole bunch of other little souvenir items, which I think really helps the CD releases become "more" than their digital counterparts. This is something I'd really like to see some other bands from other genres adopt. As someone who has been an avid CD user and collector since I was a kid, I certanly hope that CDs make a comeback the same way vinyl has.
I started buying CD's in 1988. They still play great. Get a Disc DR to revive your CD if it gets scratched. Compared to vinyl and tape, CD's are almost indestructable.
I love the sound of the vinyl, but the CD is the most practical format for today’s world. The CD is more portable,smaller, recordable,more durable, and useable in cars. I agree with you on the AAD CD’s because when they remaster the analog CD’s the sound to me isn’t right. I love a CD recorder especially when it has 2 or more trays for CD dubbing. My happy medium is a good receiver, a good turntable and cartridge, a CD recorder with dubbing capability built in, and a carousel CD changer. I hope the CD comes back and Recorder decks become available again. The CD is a lot easier to handle and manage.
minidisc is more practical, litle, protected by it´s casing and still digital, i still record cassettes but also record minidiscs ,for the car it´s the best
@@RUfromthe40s I see your point. The minidisc would be better for car and portable use. As they are smaller and are better protected due to being in a case. Why they didn’t market them better I don’t know.
@@tonyperek7292 they tried but sony wanted to much money for the other brands to own the format, other brands did developed a diferent system of playing atrac files but too late , i did start to use mds because they were almost ofered, the high-end deck from pioneer in mint condition did cost me 20€ ,for the car 50€ from sony and have hundreds of mds that i recorded that i use to buy 20 md for 5€ from sony or tdk .Kind of forced to use them , a good cassette deck around 1.000€ ,tdk sa-x 2 cassettes 4.50€ ,later bought boxes of 10 for 10€ because i had a ct-959 from pioneer that also bought in mint condition for 40€ in 93 but had a ct-737mkII(90) from pioneer and drm-800 from denon since 1989 and several older ones, regards
CDs have been unfairly maligned and , except for the crappy cases and poorly sized liner note presentations are a great format. Many titles are already rare, and production totals for many of the titles issued as sales of cds declined and mega music stores closed are a mystery. My bet is they were very small. Think of all the previously unreleased music they brought forth. Compact, durable, quite decent sound-what's not to love?
Great video! 2 things to add to this... Really good CD players can be had at thrift stores for around $20, and if they are in good physical condition and relatively clean, including inside the CD drawer or platter itself, (if a carousel type), then that usually indicates that it was taken good care of by its original owner, and therefore should probably still perform and play perfectly, (always test it in store before buying if it's used), and so used CD players can be a really great value! In my decades of experience with used/vintage/thrift store gear, I usually find that most Sony brand CD players are usually most commonly still in working order... Other brands aren't quite as "die hard" reliable in the used market, from what I've noticed, however, there ARE exceptions to this of course! (As I said earlier; always test in store before buying if it's a used CD player!) One other thing to mention is... THE "LOUDNESS WARS", which (negatively) affected quite a few new album releases on CD, especially (and very unfortunately), in the Pop, EDM, and Hip-hop genres, and mainly only since 2010 or 2012, when I started to really notice some newer album releases on CD were starting to sound kind of "harsh" or sometimes even "saturated" or distorted, (Billie Eilish comes to mind unfortunately, which was very disappointing, because her music and voice and style overall is great, but her first major release album, "When We All Fall Asleep Where Do We Go?" especially, was majorly distorted in certain songs to the point of occasionally not even being able to understand her vocals/lyrics in certain musical passages where the bass was too strong for the compressor to work properly), (luckily her newer album "Happier Than Ever" was a slightly better sound quality recording overall, except in 1 or 2 songs which were still too loud), but anyway, my point is; that the OVERUSE of EXTREME levels of compression in many more recent albums, where the ENTIRE album is pretty much at the MAXIMUM recording level for CD, (which is actually extremely high, even better than other formats, but still), when the producer or masterer turns the levels on EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM in order for the overall album to sound as LOUD and "impressive" (at the very first few seconds of listening only), but then if you actually listen to the entire album from beginning to end, you end up with "ear fatigue" or maybe even a headache sometimes, which is VERY irritating AND it's totally UNnecessary! (For recording "professionals" to do this!) That's one reason you had mentioned that oftentimes the older or original release of an album sounds better than the newest "remastered" edition of it. That's not always the case, but if it is that way, then most likely the newer version of said album uses a much higher level of compression than the original recording did, therefore bringing the overall levels of every part of the song up closer to the maximum threshold of (clean) recording onto a CD, and if that point is ever exceeded, even for a split second, then it sounds distorted or at least very harsh on the ears. Older/original CD pressings of albums before 2010 really didn't do that, especially not as a common or intentional thing, like the (disgusting) recent "LOUDNESS" trend is, so the overall presentation of an older album may seem at first like it's not quite as LOUD or "impressive" (among the very first listen), as a newer album or version might, however, that overall lower recording level is MUCH easier and more enjoyable to listen to long term or even over the length of the entire album because it wasn't stressing out the format or the equipment, and therefore it still left some room for it to "breathe"! (a.k.a. "headroom"... Look it up. That's way too long of a topic to go into here!) Doing that increased the overall dynamic range of the music, the difference from the loudest to the softest passages, and therefore made it much more listenable overall. If one ever gets a standalone, component style CD recorder, (i.e. not just one on a computer), and ever plays around with making analog to digital recordings of tapes, vinyl, streaming, etc. onto CDs, and plays around with the recording level enough, then you will know to never let the levels go above the "0dB" maximum into the "clipping" threshold, (i.e. never lighting up the "clip" light), or else your music will sound like crap! It definitely sounds exactly like the original or source IF you keep the recording levels below that point, but once you go above it into digital clipping, then you will immediately know it because then the recording will sound like garbage! Lol! (Never do that again!) The LOUDNESS WARS though, through the OVERUSE of EXTREME levels of compression, makes too many brand new album releases on CD sound harsh and irritating, and unfortunately sometimes even to the point of being almost unlistenable. I really hope that "trend" dies out in popularity and the recording companies start respecting the CD format again, properly utilizing its strengths, while always taking into consideration its "limitations"... "Limitations" that are really only that if the format is grossly abused in that way. (Of recording way above its "safe" dynamic limits of "0dBFS" or 96dB of dynamic range, as mentioned in this video)... Which is PLENTY of range, (MUCH more than vinyl BTW), but only IF it is fully utilized properly, by recording onto the CD WITHOUT totally maxing out EVERY part of the music at ALL times! Anyway, "rant" over, lol! Anyone who starts getting into the CD format, especially after being "limited" by the overall poorer sound quality of MP3 and/or even most streaming services, will be very satisfied with their music on CD format! It's the overall easiest (physical format) to store, manage long-term, and find used anywhere and everywhere (any thrift store, garage sale, pawn shop, flea market, etc.), VERY wide variety of genres and artists, and for extremely cheap prices too, sometimes as cheap as 10/$1, and regularly (used) for as low as $1 per CD album. (And brand new releases on CD are also still a reasonable $8-$16 or so when first released and on sale)... Plus, if buying used ones, you can just quickly LOOK at the back/underside of the disc to see its condition, and if it's in relatively good shape then it's guaranteed to still play perfectly, which is really cool... Enjoy your collecting!
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I have two of these. I drilled holes in them and hung them on the wall.
No Definitely Maybe or Whats the Story from Oasis...?!? Yeah, that CD stack ain’t legit. At all.
Are they coming back? Never left my life since 1988! I’m still buying new and hoovering up used and early pressings. I’ve a massive collection.
I agree, vinyl is getting very expensive. I have a lot of that too!
@@KRAZEEIZATION It suck though that many car companies are not making CD players anymore.
@@cindysue5474 Modern cars are rubbish so it doesn’t matter!
I love collecting CDs. It bugs me when new songs or albums are released only on digital. If I can't stuff a disc onto a crowded shelf to collect dust, what's the point?
If anything is only released digitally, I will not buy it.
Amen to that. Friends & Family (generally the younger members) look at me like I’m crazy. I bought myself a few of the recent Beatles box sets for Christmas, vinyl and CDs versions, and they were all like, can’t you just listen on Spotify or Tidal?
No fun in that…..
i agree lol
@@BoB4jjjjs you can always download it as all ,using piracy or pirate bay torrents just to recorded it into wave in a cd it sounds ok
@@RUfromthe40s Yes, I know I could, there are apps to do it from RUclips. However, I would rather it was top quality, as I listen a lot on headphones. When using headphones, the slightest defect is very noticeable. However, I do copy CDs for use in the car, or at least I used to. Leaving paid for CDs in the sun is not the best idea, but a copied one, well, just burn another.
I know there are apps that you can download to Mp3, fine for the car, but for headphones, not so much!
My old car used to play Mp3 from CDs, so I could cram a lot onto one CD. Convert the CD to Mp3 file, then burn to CD.
My new car does not have a CD player, I find it a bit irritating! 😞
I never left the CD format. Being buying them since 1988. Have so many. CDs rule.
DAMN RIGHT, BUBBA!!!!
Since 1983👍🤘🤘🤘
I've been buying CD's since 1984, and I still have all the CD's I bought. Never got rid of any. I love my CD's.
I never stopped buying tapes or vinyl.
Absolutely. CD FOR EVER!
The irony for those of us born a lot before 1997 is that we remember how intimidating the $11-$15 price tag of CDs was when CDs first hit the market (on average, new records were $5-7.)
i remenber $35, it dependend on how many stores existed in your city but in 93 ,prices did came down all over the world when they manage to find a cheaper material to produce cds ,only more sensitive compared to 80´s ones
in 82 to 84 a cd was enough to buy two vinil and a good cassette to record more music,till 93 i just bought 7 cds after was when prices came down and still thinking that cds were good sounding ,i bought many that i liked ,that never listen to them till today because they sound a lot worse than the vinil records i already had
that´s candyland not even special price cds had so low price and the cheapest cds were was in early 90´s 15 to 20 dollars and 7.50 special priced ones, normally they took the sticker where it said special price or others depending on the label and sold them as new releases
(€22 new album,in 2002)
11 to 15, I seen them (Some Elvis titles and 80's bands) for $35 for a single album in the late 80's
As a musician, I still market my music on CDs. The sound is much clearer than a stream, plus fans have something tangible. The photos, booklets and graphics are something a stream doesn't have. In addition, I have been collecting CDs since 1988 and I still buy them today. Currently, I own 2700 CDs and I have no plans on dropping this format. Besides, when was the last time someone had asked to see someone's "streaming" collection? Long Live the CD 💿.
the sound quality can be solved with just getting flacs or even just 320kbps mp3 files
Arghh! a musician, I've been a DJ since 1976 and I just want to say that I totally 💯agree with you. Bet you thought I was going to slag you off, not a bit of it. Nice to see musicians and DJ's agreeing on something ha! I have to confess I rip my cd's and work from hard drive (320kbs) I have no intention of ever stopping buying these babies. Downloads are OK but you just don't get that physical buzz.
new cds have the same characteristics with streaming, at least new greek cds!hard bass, closed sound, normalization with flat waveform that surpasses the ceiling, loudness so much with gain at 98-99. It's a pity that cds have not the sound with older cds before 2010.
@@vinylmastersgr1036 you do realize that all of these factors have nothing to do with CDs but with the mixing and mastering process and the hardware music is being played. it's not like Vinyl which is analog media. CDs store digital data
@@kxdsh How do you know what bitrate he is using? Ripping CDs to WAV is the best way to go. FLAC also works but CDs share the same bitrate as WAV which means better compatibilty. Stay away from those lossy crap. The sound quality can be solved if he is playing uncompressed audio files using good digital to analog convertors.
I'm old enough to remember when CDs were first released, it was amazing because there was no surface noise, no cracks, pops like a record, no tape hiss, no need to worry about Dolby at all, it was a perfect size and looks great when you have a lot in your library.
I'm with ya. I bought my first player (a Discman... all I could afford as a high school senior in '86/'87) and my first cd purchase in 1986 was Honeymoon Suite's "The Big Prize" because it was the only DDD disc in the store, and I wanted to hear what full digital sounded like. It was blissful. Over the years, I have accumulated about 2000 CDs, many of which are unplayable today because I didn't treat them right. I will say this... in recent years I have built a respectable 2 channel listening space and have begun to buy more vinyl, and on a proper rig, there is some charm in the sound from records that I missed from the cleanliness of CDs. Not the pops and crackles, but on recordings that were engineered for vinyl rather than for CD, because there is a degree of compression when engineered for CD, and the vinyl has a sound that I can only describe as "air" since I lack the vocabulary to say it more eloquently. Picking vinyl is a tricky endeavor these days. Anyway, CDs are still very much in my crosshairs, and I still love reading through the liner notes.
Yeah but you end up living in a record store. Rip 'em to flac, bung them on a server (Raspberry Pi running OMV with a USB drive will do), you have them instantly wherever you are.
@PrinceWesterburg I felt that way about 20 years ago. When being able to have anything at the touch of a button was new and seemed like treat. These days, with Spotify, there's no need to rip music anymore. It's true that streaming quality isn't the same, but it's darn good and sounds just fine on most playback equipment. Also, it can be fun to look through all the CDs and records and be reminded of music you may have forgotten about.
@@matthewpeterson3329 Honeymoon Suite: The Big Prize wasn't my first CD, but it was the first CD I got as a birthday present (along with Depeche Mode: Music for the Masses) in 1992, on my 17th birthday. The Big Prize has really stood the test of time - I ripped it to MP3 many years ago and it's been on every one of my devices, right back to my first Zune in 2008 (I made it abundantly clear I didn't want an iPod even though they were more popular and ultimately won out). But I still prefer to have CDs as much as possible.
@@mysticwolf75 Awesome. I also bought a Zune in 2008 and returned it about a week later. I just couldn't make it work, which is most likely because I am technologically inept.
Love CDs. No matter what happens to your music collection; stored on a drive or loss of the music on a streaming service, CDs are tangible music you can actually hold in your hands with art work to enjoy when everything else crashes. Hope there's a returning trend by the music industry to start pressing CDs again.
Discs deteriorate don't forget that. So if you don't copy them at some point you will loose your music files
@@iorreneft correct, but where is the problem in dragging the files onto computer storage in original quality?
This way the music will survive forever and you can use it wherever you wan't without having to change cd's.
Yep, I'm a massive fan of physical media. Can't beat it. 🙌
Most Cd sound quaility is bad. Recorded to loud and way to many highs. Works well on crappy sound systems but sound like chitt on a good system.
@@jamesvw769 🤣😂🤣😂 no they don't, they sound absolutely amazing on a Technics set up.
I hope CD's don't get popular again so they don't become grossly expensive like vinyl
I’ve noticed at the local Walmart they were basically 4 or 5 bucks each. Those 4 and 5 dollar discs are now 9 dollars and up. Got a few thrift stores that I frequent. One place sells 10 cents each. The other a dollar each.
@@Lexy-O I disagree. If the popularity of CDs increase, the labels are going to increase the prices because people are willing to pay the higher prices and the same will happen in the second hand market.
Thanks to stupid videos from hipsters like this prices increase.
Exactly - it doesn't help when videos like this RUclips post are put out there, eBay prices are already begin to rise.
It might be a good idea to replace your vinyl collection with CDs ASAP. Your right the price of CDs could sky rocket. CDs last longer and sound purer clear and better than snap crackle and pop vinyl.
Most versatile and user friendly digital format ever created: no DRM, no lossy or propietary encodings, no BS. Just digital music.
5th like with ken wu
According to a guy who works with music, the CD is very compressed compared to the recording in the record studio. Because he said in the studio they work with 32 Bit. and they use it when creating a vinyl record they do not use a CD as a source
Not true sony has had copy-protected CDs even though those discs were not allowed to have the compact disc symbol. it was is a file on the disks that could cause you to have problems with your computer
Available music on HDTracks without DRM. according to their website
Already in the 80's, the record companies demanded a copy ban on DAT players. so you could only make a perfect digital copy of your CD. for a time, it was not even allowed to sell DAT in the United States. the record companies went to court
I never stopped buying them. Nothing against any other formats. I stream, use vinyl and occasionally even cassette. CDs are my overall favorite.
I am a HUGE fan of of ANY physical media. And it's important we don't let it die! I'm a bit of a audiofile head to an extend, and I am currently using my CD-Rom drive in my desktop with EAC to rip them into WAV files. Sounds so amazing all together! Way better then the streaming platforms.
Rip them into FLAC or APE instead, they compress without losses (as in zip compression) and you don't have to have files so big as WAV, while retaining ALL the sound information bit by bit, meaning an exact audio copy of the original
@@pecmYea. I actually started doing the FLAC files shortly after I posted this comment. Thanks for the reply/tip anyways though!
Also physical media is something they can’t take away from you! As in the SpongeBob episode Mid Life crustacean they took that off of iTunes and also the streaming service and also Sony took away Mythbusters and Deadliest Catch from ppl who actually PURCHASED it because they lost the license for those showsso the ppl who spent so much money for it so if it’s important to me I mean very important physical is the way to go for me!
Cd is the perfect median. You own the music, and if you take care of it it lasts a lifetime. The cd dumping of the last few years has been a bonanza for collectors like me. I've been buying favorites for 5-6 bucks....life is beautiful.
Where can you find some of these cds? Do you recommend finding the first issued cds?
@@JHulbert17 discogs ebay amazon local digital markets
Exactly - I just hope eBay prices don't raise on the back of RUclips posts ( like this one we're all watching !)
@@JHulbert17
Discogs is fantastic for this
@@cactusjackNV sorry, I was curious
never stopped buying CDs. i think they're the coolest music format. i am not really a vinyl person but everytime i see a colored vinyl records i wanted to collect them too haha
Dude, I started buying the odd vinyl I thought was cool over the years (collect mostly cds) but the crazy thing is, the vinyl ones have quadrupled in price. Some of them now over 400 bucks each! I'm sure I dont have a cd worth that
I completely agree with you... CDs are coming back. I've owned vinyl since the 80s and still buy the odd album, but for about the past 6 - 12 months I've been grabbing CDs, largely at thrift stores and used stores where I'm getting them for 1 or 2 dollars each... I have a feeling these "dollar days" will come to an end...
Hopefully it won't follow the same path as vintage video games, but I suspect it will.
A few years ago you could get the most iconic CD's from thrift stores (op shops) for a couple of dollars. In 2022 it seems like that time has passed, most of the top content has long been harvested.
I'm paying about $4 per CD at a local record store (these are used) and it's just such a great deal.
It’s truely amazing how CDs are still being sold over 40 years after release! I collect them and have a Sony Mini Hifi system from the early 2000s and I think they sound great. It’s so refreshing to not get caught up with ads and other crap filling streaming services these days. Just pure, high quality digital music. Happy that more people understand the value of CDs!
I remember buying my first CD player back and I want to say 1982 it was a Yamaha player I paid I think $450 back then which was kind of a lot of money in my opinion it's funny you say after 40 years the CD format is not that old compared to the vinyl format which goes Way Way Back
@@dobermanguy9437 yeah wow! That’s amazing do you still have the player? I guess there was no real successor to CDs when it comes to a physical format. You had things like minidisc and DCC but they never really saw home hifi adoption. I was born in the mid 2000s and I still used CDs up until around 2016 when Spotify started to become popular here in Australia
CDs first overtook vinyl in 1993 in UK. At that point, vinyl too had been going for about 40 years. Like CD, vinyl took around 10-11 years from being introduced to being the best-selling format.
is it a cmt cp11?
@@hello_mate8974 yes it was. Ended up building a new setup but my sister enjoys the CP11. Sounds pretty good given the price I paid. The rubber on the drivers on my speakers are worn though
Anyone who was born before 2003-2004 definitely knows how important these CDs were and how it is irreplaceable, collecting is a lifestyle
I remember seeing CDs 💿 for the first time back in 1984 (they were originally introduced in 1982). I had started collecting LPs in 1974, enjoyed collecting them, but eventually sold off my record collection of over 3,000 LPs in 2001, basically because of space. I started buying CDs exclusively in 1989, and still collect them today. Long live CDs 🌈✌️💿 and physical music.
How much money did you get for 3k LPs? If I may ask :)
@@magnesiafrost1863 I sold 1,500 in 2001 for hardly anything. It was all punk and metal and at the time it wasn’t worth much. God I regret that now😂
After listening to mostly streamed and compressed music for 5-6 years, going back to CDs has been a revelation. I love it. It’s so much nicer on the ears!
:^)
Lossless Audio is the ONLY way. Screw AAC and MP3. Besides that, CDs don't require internet connection.
CD's are good, but are the beginning of such compression. You're in for a genuine treat when you start listening to vinyl!
@@Scotty-P If you like some extra harmonical distortion, higher noise floor and an occasional pop then yes, go for vinyl.
The more expensive the turntable, the more it sounds like a CD.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 There are literally dozens of blind listening tests on the net where people couldn't hear the difference between 256kbps or higher mp3 vs losless.
MP3 is perfectly fine.
Cds rule!
I'm only 14 and I was caught in this trend of buying cds, I definetely have almost 200 now and I could see myself having loads and loads by the time I'm in my own place lmao. I'm glad they made a comeback
CD's never went away , the sound quality is so much better than the streaming stuff and the SACD format with a good player is astounding.
Bullshit. Any decent streaming service offers 24 bit/96khz audio these days. Get a clue before embarrassing yourself next time.
That is totally true
The sound quality is technically better than vinyl as well, though space for cover art and text information is greatly reduced
@@ShamrockParticle You are correct. Even an old 16 bit Redbook from the 80's sounds better than vinyl
@@mikethebike7372 Yeah. If you were using a cheap 1980s piece of shit. Either you're deaf, or stupid.
You nailed it on the head with your mentioning that a physical CD (or LPs and cassettes), if taken care of, is always available in our collections. While an artist can pull their music off a streaming service or the streaming service may even go out of business. I've been trying to drill that fact home with people who are supporters of streaming music over having CD collections. The point being, when you are relying on a streaming company to control of your music collection, your favorite music could disappear. You are renting access to your music with streaming. If that streaming service decides so and so's band is no longer worth keeping on their servers due to low listeners, they can delete that artist. With having a CD collection, you can go to your shelf and listen to that CD no matter if it is in print or is popular or not. During this pandemic, I have been buying tons of used CDs on Discogs at such fair prices. It can be a fantastic way to fill in missing albums in my CD collection and try music that I haven't thought of previously. Plus, buying physical media, especially directly from independent bands/ artists goes a long way to helping that artist keep making music and earn a living. Streaming royalties are generally rubbish. Streaming devalues music by making it completely disposable.
I found out last night that Apple can remove “your album “ from your own library also not just streaming. What you download from iTunes is technically a streamed copy and not an album I heard that years ago but didn’t really think about it but yes, the artist and album have been removed from iTunes Store and from my devices that are online, I still have the album because I use a digital audio player to listen to music not my phone but I have a cd of the artist which I had to import from Japan and that was to replace the cd I bought in the late 80’s which I gave to a Japanese girl who was a bit homesick, that one was bought in a major metro area in Australia in the country area I live in there isn’t a lot of international titles available.
Very well said, Shane.
When you own the physical media - you own the music.
@@aural_supremacy : I've never had that with iTunes, however, in the past I did experience that very thing quite often from Spotify - even if I'd physically downloaded the album to my device....!! 😳 NOT good!! 😩
All the same, I grew up when LPs and cassettes were the main way to buy music, and even though I enjoy digital downloads for the convenience, in 99% of cases, I have the original either on LP, CD, or Cassette as well, and still buying physical too.. No-ones taking THAT bastard away from me!! 😂👍🏻
i started again to buy cds or records after listening on some things i had just forgoten but one or two songs are great and to a cassette they go
The one thing about CD'S I wish that would go away is digi packs. They wear out fast and jewel cases are easy to replace.
I believe the digipacks are due to 1) cheaper to manufacture and 2) more environmentally friendly. There are bags special made for the digipacks if you want to protect them better.
@@ModernKaveman digipacks are not cheaper the materials used are expensive it was a try of giving importance to art cover that it got lost ,no one looks to covers or inlay pappers with diminished letters with lyrics that mostly seem litle black dirt on colour pages
@@ModernKaveman , I've got plastic bags for the digi covers but I still don't like them compared to the jewel cases.
Digipacks piss me off
Hard disagree. Jewel cases SUCK.
I still buy CD's regularly and have never stopped. I buy even more now than I did when it was the default media format.
5:53 AAD: First letter means the content on the CD was recorded on analog. Second letter means the recording was MIXED in analog. Third letter means it was mastered in digital, which would obviously be the case for all CDs.
I almost got rid of my CDs last year because I can stream Spotify through my Sony amp/Wharfdale speakers. But then one day I played a song on CD straight after listening to the streaming version and was bowled over by the difference in quality. The result was that instead of dumping my discs, I upgraded to a brand new Denon CD player. Then I bought a new Teac tape deck so I can make mix tapes from my CD/vinyl collection. I rarely stream anymore. Physical media sounds better to my ears and simply brings me more enjoyment. I hope more people in the future discover that they feel the same way.
...and there's no monthly fee, no one tracking my selections and making ridiculous "suggestions" as to what I might like, and no #$%^ ads!!
i use streaming for those days when it´s too cold and arrive from work completely wasted ,in a sofa i push my keyboard and listen to all ,instead of looking for in several shelfs filled with records and cds but when listening to music i like to hear all that was recorded and spotify isn´t that good but aceptable, making playlists it´s fine and easy but not all is there , around 2018 i remenber to record a minidisc with a playlist from spotify and well done again the md player for the car, the same with cassettes ,even crossfaded
Regarding the sound quality, especially as compared to streaming or mp3, I couldn't agree more. Those sources just don't deliver the dynamic range that really bring the music alive. I stream and I like the convenience of it, certainly, but I love having the CD's too.
Totally agree!! Same thing happened to me, was listening on streaming, and listened on CD and I was blown away! So much more power, and clarity!
I only stream to identify music I want to purchase on CD or vinyl.
I have to correct you. SACD. it is not 24 bit. It is not PCM at all on SACD. SACD is DSD digital direct stream. a system with 1 bit so only two positions positive and negative. but extremely high sampling rate. which should give it more analog in character to the sound. and the sound can also be in true 5.1 sound, ie surround. SACD is still produced, for example, by mofi and analog production on Acoustic Sounds, there are currently 1390 SACD's. DSD is available in different levels. eg dsd 64 which means 64 times higher sampling than on a regular CD. DSD128 and DSD256 are also available.
You are correct, this guy don't know anything about CDs.
Love my CDs and Always will.
Something else to note is that I think the culture of streaming has really changed one's relationship to music compared to when people owned physical media. I grew up listening to tapes and then CDs in the 90s, and I always had my collection on hand. I would constantly look through my collection to see what I wanted to listen to, and was continuously being reminded of older stuff I had. With streaming, I think there's a tendency to forget stuff you liked in the past, cause it's not visually in front of you, so you tend to listen to whatever is new, and a lot of great music can start to be lost. I remember in 1996, looking through my CD collection, I would pick out stuff that I bought in 1992 or 1992 as much as the newer stuff, cause it was always visually and physically in front of me, and I don't think that's the same as with streaming. I'm sure there will be people getting back into CDs for nostalgia, or younger people romanticizing a past they were not part of (many who grew up in the 90s would romanticize the 70s), and there are plenty of real pros to CDs, like the sound quality, or the sleeve art, the physicality etc. but I think having a physical collection does affect the way you listen to music.
100% true. Interacting with objects- be it books, CDs, records - is entirely different from using digital media. Objects form a ‘story’ of sorts, and can lead you forward or back and make unexpected connections. Great analysis!
I started buying cds in the late 80’s but never quit buying vinyl. Through the years i managed to get the best of both worlds while building a large music collection and i will continue to do so.
It’s great that CD’s are making a comeback. I have tons and tons of CD’s. I collect more Cassettes and Vinyl, but it’s nice to know that there truly is a market for all these physical formats. I’m happy CD’s and Cassettes are coming back stronger than ever.
It's such a buyers market right now, but, then again, I never stopped buying CDs. When you can get topnotch albums used for $1 on clearance at Half Price Books it just makes total sense. I have a world-class collection for a fraction of the cost of vinyl LPs. I've been buying them since 1984 when they were like $18 a disc. Don't pay anything close to that today.
Totally agree.
@@ontherhodes8088 I took thousands of vinyl LPs and Singles to the tip when I moved house, didn't have room for them and didn't have time to sell them on or pass them on to anyone! I was a bit upset, but a woman has to have a new house!! :-((
Every now and again I'll see a CD I bought back in the day for $15+ going for $1 at a Goodwill.
Yep. I never stopped buying CDs. I probably have 7-8000 right now - plus a few hundred LPs, hundreds of cassettes, a few 8-track and reel-to-reel.
Where are you finding good CDs for $1 at hpb? Most at my local one are in the 5-10 range
My very first cd was Madonna's Like a Virgin which I bought way back 1984. Still plays like a dream. Now I have around 2000 and I don't intend to stop collecting.
my first cd was a version of a doble lp from CCR "chronicle" that came out for what today is 7€ in a magazine than i bought also for 5€ the soft parade by the Doors, some say it´s a bad album but i like it since new and it sounds very good
Today's worth $25,Then it was $2.
That’s a lot of copies man
Mine was Green Day 21 century breakdown that I bought at Newbury Comics with the money I made while at Boarding school. Good times
Me too. I bought Like a Virgin, then all the other Madonna's album. And then i got my very first cd player (that i still have, and still run very good) the Technics Slp-220. I still remember the first moment when i putted the cd in the tray and pushed play. I cannot believe my ears...no hiss, no noise, only music. And during the pause...absolute silence! Fantastic!
Yes, vinyl is making a comeback, but more expensive now than back in the day! I still buy vinyl, but mainly CDs. New and used.
Born in 1978. I caught the tail end of tapes. But when I was a teen the cd was it! First cd I bought. Nirvana unplugged. Haven’t stopped since!
For me CD never went away. Been buying most of my music on CD since 1992, and still do buy CDs till this day. While I've got a collection of iTunes downloads, I've never paid for a streaming service and don't intend to start. And I've been loving buying CDs for $1 - $5 on eBay or at thrift stores, but figure those days are likely coming to an end. Excluding niche formats such as SACD or DVD Audio, CD is still the highest quality format thats accessible to most people, and allows you to hear music the way it was meant to be listened to. Its yours forever (unless you sell, give away, or lose the disc, or it gets damaged of course), its a one time purchase with no ongoing fees, and since most people are getting rid of them, they're cheaper than ever. There's nothing but upsides to them in my book. :)
I have always loved CD's. I have about a thousand CDs in my collection. I still buy them so in my book they never went out of style, and I'm glad that they are making a comeback, even though they never went away. 😁
that´s the truth never saw stores closed without cds, but the return of analog formats
And CDs will never disappear. From your collection and are easier to store then LPs..
And CDs take a long time to wear out. And if they get scratches it can be fixed..
Absolutely CDs are coming back. Sure downloads are convenient but most cost more than CDs. And at Amazon you get the download for free with the purchase of most discs sold by Amazon. I always prefer to buy the CD.
CDs never went away. I've always been able to buy my favorite album on CD, even when streaming got popular. Yes, vinyl has made a comeback and I buy vinyl sometimes too. The thing that a lot of people have realized is that you don't own anything with streaming. Without an internet connection you have nothing. With a CD or vinyl, you always have that music.
Always loved cds. I collect different genres but most predominantly metal, pop, R&B, house, trip hop. Alas, due to financial issues, had to sell most of them. Now I'm left with a couple of cds. Usually I would rip the cds to .flac for archiving purposes and portability
I'm 81 years young, and still rocking mainly in my rocking chair. Hi from Australia 😎🎶🎵🎶 I believe that all the best music is from the 60s and 70s.
Nice one. Greetings from a dinosaur in Ireland. Keep listening.
...and 90's
I agree, Justin; but I'm a couple of years younger than you so I prefer music from the 1960s to the end of the nineteen eighties.🔉🎼🎵
May I recommend to you a short-lived Aussie band called McPhee. They released only 1 album, in 1971 - self titled heavy psychedelic rock album. The lead singer, Faye Lewis.
Born in 69 I went from vinyl to cassette, back to vinyl for a brief period, and then went CD from about 1986 onward. Did dabble a little bit with SACD in the early 2000s. You just can't beat physical media. You have a lifelong back up that will never be converted into some subscription-based streaming BS. Storage is so cheap now, it is ridiculous. I can fit all my music on one USB flash drive. Although not as cool as LP cover art, still nice to have some artwork with your music. Recently I hauled out a lot of my CDs (I have hundreds) and finally categorized them and ripped to FLAC format. (side note: don't try this on one of those crappy USB-powered CD drives for laptops. Get a proper internal or AC powered external DVD drive) It's better quality than the MP3s you get off of Amazon. On my home system, which is pretty decent. I can hear the difference. Also agree with you about the "remasters". Sometimes they are a clear improvement if done right, but usually they just are cranked up to 11 and you actually lose some dynamic range.
streaming is perfectly fine for the masses but true music fans purchase/collect media.
My family has always been into physical media - my late father had a VHS collection numbering about a hundred tapes. I grew up watching VHS tapes as a young kid in the late 1980s, through the 1990s and then once the 2000s arrived (2002 to be exact) I started collecting DVDs - my absolute favourite format. I converted my VHS tapes to DVD and now have about 2000 DVDs.
There is something about DVDs that makes them special - particularly when watching films made pre-1997 (the date DVDs hit the market), where the films were shot with actual film (or in some cases directly onto VHS video) gives off a certain atmosphere that digital film stock films lack.
The best films to watch on DVD are those made from the 1980s, regardless of the print quality, as this format gives 80s films their best airing. 1990s films come a close second.
CDs did disappear from stores for a while, but have recently made a slow comeback. I'm buying again. DVDs never lost momentum, and seem to have increased in number with old TV shows in compliation and old movies being rereleased.
Been collecting cds for years, best format personally, got new and old ones, play them everyday without any problems
difference. I Been buying 8track tapes for longer than you been collecting cds.
For classical music, there is no substitute for CDs. In addition to greater dynamic range, CD prices can't be beat. In the past year, I have purchased entire catalogs of conductors, soloists, and orchestras from 1960s to the present for $2-$3 per NEW CD. For the price of 4 LPs, I can own 100 CDs.
Good point. In the battle between analogue and digital, your point often gets missed - likely because most people are buying rock, pop, or jazz.
I've had a bad case of "boxed-set-itis" over the past 10 years or so (only cured by retirement and living in a country with an abysmal postal system) and have bought dozens of boxed sets (total number of CDs I own is around 6,300.) By clicking 4 times over a period of a year or so, I was able to buy all of Herbert von Karajan's DG recordings, amounting to over 300 CDs. Not only are they a hell of a good price, it's very likely that even if I wanted to buy the albums, it would be near impossible to collect them.
For classical and pop and rock and all genres
Now the record companies usually have low dynamics on CDs. and the record companies think that audiophiles or people who like classical music buy music on another medium such as Hi-res or SACD or Vinyl. or maybe listening to Qobus or Tidal
Is there not a risk that the record company thinks that if you buy music cheaply, you will also buy a cheap stereo?
@@Andersljungberg CD with good mastering without compression is a top format. CD sound as a shit since loudness war has started in the past. But it's a good format.
Cds never went away for me, about as good a sound as the human ear can get and its a physical format for collectors even though the fragile plastic cases can be a problem sometimes. Vinyl is ok but has issues with jumping and crackles and is a space hog while tape is a rose tinted memory that's only good for studio recordings .cds the best format.
Providing of course the recording was done properly and has good audio reproduction. So many CD’s are very poor audio quality due to poor recording techniques.
@@gary-kr7dm that's the same for any format. ya cant polish a turd
wrong, try to listen to Beatles records and then tell me that cds sound good or any other band till the 80´s depending on taste
@@RUfromthe40s I would argue that recording in the 1960s was still primitive even on later beatles recordings so a better comparison would be eg pink floyd dark side of the moon or kraftwerk man machine from the 1970s both albums sound louder and clearer on cd.
@@johnk6312 you don´t even know how better they sound ,i started to buy cds when the price droped around early 90´s and my mistake was comon ,they said it was much better but one when listening to cds ,if knowing the LP´s would have notice at first time listening that the sound was wrong and it´s not me only ,it´s the ones who developed the digital format that couldn´t make the analog sound captured by microphones sound equal when converted to digital the problem is the digital convertion doesn´t know what´s noise and what are analogue sounds ,they are entirelly cut ,bass and drums sound ok but very linear sound as guitars ,keyboards(electronic ones), and voice are not converted directelly as in analog ,i have examples :if you want listen to guitars in a rock lp as in vinil ,then put the cd playing and tell me what happened to the guitars, they sound very wrong and the volume is under the voice and bass line and drums become almost like todays digital drums ,sound good but a continuous beat not as a drumer plays when striking the leather.
Streaming is just a bad investment
What are you talkin about CDs making a comeback they've never went away. They're still being made and sold today
The very 1st. CD I bought was Wild Honey / Smiley Smile by The Beach Boys. (2 albums on one disc). Can't remember why because at that time I wasn't a super fan... an impulse I guess...but I was delighted by the thing. The second and 3rd. CDs that I bought were Grasping At Straws and Misplaced Childhood by Marillion. I still like the physicality of a CD.
Long may they continue.
That Sony DVP-S9000ES DVD/CD/SACD player you showed is a fantastic unit! The analog section is incredible with high end audio grade capacitors and components. I'm surprised they are still affordable, even on eBay. Not many CD players built that well that are still reasonably priced.
It is indeed awesome! Got mine for $60 online 🙂
@@HiFiTurtle wow that was a fantastic deal! I paid a bit more, but still feel these are diamonds in the rough. How about all of that copper and the 30lb weight? It’s built like a tank!!
@@wal really well made, love the dust filters on the chasis cutouts too
@@HiFiTurtle Yea I haven't seen one for under $250 in a while. Most are asking $500+
@@wal i did bought one be cause i wanted to listen how better the SACD sounds and i kind of liked the sound but why didn´t they start to deliver all cds with 2 channel technology of SACD , i tried to listen with a av amplifier at a friends house but i really didn´t like the way it sounds with a surround system it´s kind of a curiosity but not what i expected to hear when this friend of mine startesd to say how incredible it sounds but i would prefer better two channel sound than a complete 7.something divided tracks on one stereo recording, i since a lot of years conect my t.v and some years later my video system to my stereo equipment and liked it that way it sound incredible, once a friend of mine after listening to a video he asked me if i had a DTS system that i don´t really know what it is ,i know it´s the sound type of the cinema i go to watch new movies but technically i don´t know how diferent is from surround patern(sorry but my english doesn`t go that far, in tech. explained). Regards
Cd's, dvds and blu-rays are the best.. no need to subscribe, log in or worry about them disappearing, the storage last longer than thumb drives, hard drives, ect. ect. dont forget all play stations with a disc drive can also play audio cds..
you can't beat having a first time hearing of a great album on a personal CD player with headphones, CDs are the best
I started re-collecting CDs about 5 years ago. Most of mine were originally bought in the late 80s and early 90s. A lot of my old favorite artists were still making new music, and that's when I rediscovered them. However, I don't actually listen to the CD live. I collect them in a box, each one in a protective plastic sleeve and in a box after I admire and rip them to music files. I play the "albums" from my computer through it's bluetooth to an inexpensive bluetooth receiver, and from my receiver I have old fashioned speakers plugged in, powered by the receiver. All the music programs for Andriod phones are pure awful, so I normally don't use my smartphone's bluetooth, except when away from home (I have a copy on my smartphone too). Those modern Andriod music programs are geared toward singles, not albums. But on my computer I easily organize them by artist, then albums, and I play the actual album, not single music files. I love it like that, just like playing a whole CD. The reason why Andriod music programs are pure awful is that the established cultural powers are hell-bent against albums and artists and want to hold them back to extent reasonably possible. Rock artists have been singing about them wanting to destroy ROCK music for generations now, and believe it or not, they're right. The entire music industry, including albums and CD labels, are all mutually dependent on one another, fully interdependent and interlinked. They way they successfully demolished most of Rock and music industry is cannibalizing the industry from within, most notably with itunes, and then the streaming music platforms. Teens that use to collect albums generations ago no longer collect, they and others have been streaming music. What that leads to is the habit of listening to songs till tired of it, then never listening to it again. One a streaming service lapses or goes out of business, then so to all those tunes. And, the tunes are saved in libraries that aren't album oriented. So everybody just forgets about the music after listening to fulfillment. Lots of teens who grew up in the early 2000s can't even remember the music they listened to, and they have zero access to the music they once bought. It's just forgotten music. However, teens from the 70s and 80s sometimes have enormous album collections (or CDs, tapes or 8tracks even). They periodically show them off, for instance a popular band, take Led Zepplin, they might show off their Led Zepplin IV album to youth from the current generation, then presto, they are hooked on those albums. That goes for GnR's Appitite, Metallica's Black album, Def Leppard's Hysteria, Aerosmith's 70s albums, and their comeback album 1987's Permanent Vacation (the last album Aerosmith did macho style with Steven Tyler's yak-yak-yak-yeow metal screamin'. After that they turned to soul rock with Tyler doing love squeels. Now, for folks who stream Aerosmith for example, all their music is blended together: 70s Rock, 80s Metal, 90s Soul Music, 2000s forward sweet love ballads, all blended together like stew. It's very similar to other artists that have been around for generations and making music all the while. The result: loss of their personality and growth and evolution as artists, they are now just a single photo snapshot in musical time. Not interesting for many. All things considered, there is less long term interest in artists because it's difficult to visualize them growing, so folks don't track them year by year because they figure "nothing ever changes, they are who they are and Ive already got their best songs streaming" so they don't track the artists. The music industry collapsed because it didn't sell music. It didn't sell music because streaming songs sold have zero collectable, as soon as the listener tires of the tune, they don't track the artists and forget about the songs. And, they only purchase whatever is on the radio, if that. Artists no longer made much money making new albums, so they didn't make new albums very often. The quality of music suffered, that added another reason to not collect music. The government got more involved in controlling the cultural aspects of music making and pumping billions$$ into controlling Rock radio stations, the music award industries and investing heavily in record labels, and this was all done without news coverage. As for their Front of Control: they used the PMRC to stick labels on albums with bad lyrics, all the while outside channels encouraged deviant outtrage on album. The result: an excess of album for the public to bemoan (that was step 1) . . . step 2, the public loses interest in collecting music. Now, today, we live in a world where the music industry was heavily injured by those actions. The public has suffered through a mega loss of quality music while the cultural powers patiently wait for the last rock bands and rock stars to completely die out. It's a long term project they are patiently engaged in: cultural engineering. As for me, I buy my CDs, collect them and save the media and cool booklets that come with them. I enjoy the music which as actually improved thanks to quality recording technology becoming exponentially more affordable. Even so, they bands I love are all now getting very old, and sadly, they are almost gone. It's up to folks to now stream music to STOP NOW, and START COLLECTING. They will enjoy it tremendously. And better yet, decades from now they will have something magnificent to share with upcoming generations, and they will all be mega shocked at the cultural changes [of the future] which we are yet to know about, but rest assured, the cultural engineers have it planned for them right now, with minor changes as they go along by the new powers that be . . . . As a result of all that, stereo equipment industries scaled back production as well, to a tiny fraction of equipment sell today. (that's why I use cheap computer equipment to rip CDs, much cheaper because the music industry was hit so hard) . . . the solution is: collect music on real media: CDs, albums, tapes . . please
There’s just something special about popping in a cd and just chilling in your room with the window open just smelling that fresh air
Where do you live?
My dad was the engineer who repaired the CD moulding machines at Philips DuPont Optical (PDO) in Blackburn, UK (that was later Polygram, Seagram, Deluxe etc).
The process came from the 12” LaserDiscs.
They made a lot of CDs for Polygram (as it was a Philips company) and they were very keen on stating whether the disk was “AAD” etc etc.
This was the factory that produced the infamous “bronzed” disks.
I had a summer job there carrying boxes about and they had a problem with a new auto-packing machine that was slightly crimping the libretti (which is what they called the paper inserts). They had a problem with the production of Anthrax “Persistence of Time” cd. I rushed out and bought it and yes, the machine that was causing trouble put some slight indentations on the booklet.
The CD is proudly bronzed too lol.
The factory was very proud of the product and employed lots of skilled people, despite the disk rot!!!!
My summer job was in the CD packing department and I was amazed by the quality control, even at this stage.
The first time I saw disc rot it was a classical disc that was in a joblot I'd bought. I thought it was some kind of cool bronze decorative effect!
Neat!
💿 CDs and DVs never went away.
I still have my cassette and records too.More reliable than online files🤗
Laserdisc is the future. I'm waiting for their ultimate come back😢
I agree, LD has the best digital sound (redbook) and the best analog video available to consumers. Amazing format.
I thought laser was analog sound. They did doing good til they rotted which happened quickly and frequently.
LOL no, 4K UHD destroy any LD (in terms of video quality), new releases of old movies looks amazing.
No. They're not. Keep them dead so I can keep buying them for cheap.
The first CD I ever purchased was 'Are you Experienced' by the Jimi Hendrix Experience. I grew up in the era of cassette tapes, but I did outgrow that format and embraced CDs. I still collect CDs to this day and my Sony Discman is definitely a prized possession! I have a pretty large collection and I never intend to get rid of it. I bought quite a few CDs just a few days ago...CDs beat streaming for me, as I love the physical aspects of it! I only have a Spotify account to 'sample' albums of interest ;)
I rip my CD's to play on my Sony (Flash and 8gb) Player
I've been collecting CDs since I was a kid and always will
I have over 400 CD's, I rip/burn them onto recordable Cd's to allways keep my main collection new condition. :)
I was at a local thrift store where I live and I picked up the SACD release of Pink Floyd Dark Side Of The Moon for 1.99 USD. I just need to pick up an SACD player so I can enjoy it lol
If you're buying used CD's, make sure to hold them up to the light to make sure it doesn't have CD rot. You'll notice pits and sometimes holes in the reflective layer that's sandwiched between the clear plastic. I've had a few like that.
CD rot only happens on really cheap mixed DJ CD's.
You're wrong on that.
CD rot also happens on dvd and bluray.
Does anyone know the cause?
@@rt3593 it happens because of cheap materials/ manufacture issues . Not every cd has it. My old cds do not have it but some of the new ones…
@@fraudsarentfriends4717 Nope. You have to be especially careful with CD's from the very first few years of the format, 83- 85 or so. They didn't have the manufacturing process down yet and a lot of CD's from that era are prone to rot. I speak from experience. I've run into quite a few discs with pinholes in them -- which itself is not always an indication of rot but it's still especially prevalent with CD's from that era.
Well this is good to hear considering I've never stopped using them!
CDs never went out of style for me.
I’m glad the cd’s are coming back, because there are CD players that have pitch controls, which I personally love. And from my point of view, the CD players are available in music stores, like Sam Ash & Guitar Center.
yes they never stoped selling cd players or cds so this comeback seems a play to make people buy cds because yesterday they were kind of forgoten but today it´s come back time , and pitch is comon on cd players since early 90´s so congratulations for using this function ,are you a dj?i worked with the first denon professional that the controls could be screwed to the top of the mixing table and the players in other place
@@RUfromthe40s Not really, but I’ve been playing cd’s since around the 1990’s.
@@edwincancelii2917 till 93 only bought 7 cds but as i was the owner of a radio station ,i had all the cds i could get and also worked as a dj for 35 years but i never used cds ,records and two sl-1200mkII were more practical
Sometimes the CD booklets have historical information about the album or the band. I like that.
Me too, Paul
Me too!
If they truly ARE making a comeback, record companies should put them back in jewel cases with decent booklets.
I'm sick of nearly every new album I buy coming in some bullshit cardboard fold out pack. Some are just an open sleeve and the disc can just fall out the back!
They don't fit in racks properly, the corners wear out in no time no matter how careful you are, and just pushing the disc in the cardboard sleeve can easily scratch it.
I have CDs I bought 35 years ago, when they were all in decent protective jewel cases. They still look brand new, because I look after them, and so do the original cases!
I agree, Sarge! I can't actually understand why there are music collectors who complain about the jewel boxes for a Compact Disc! A jewel box is supposed to protect a CD as well as possible; and for me it does so very well.🔉🎼🎵🎶
im going to use this video as an excuse for my CD addiction
I made the transition from cassette and vinyl to cds when the format was released and I’ve only bought cds since. There is just something so satisfying about having a physical copy of the release with artwork etc like you mentioned. Even when downloads were at their peak if a physical copy of the DL was available I would buy it. IMO cds are the perfect format for collectors that do not have the vinyl bug. I did vinyl as a kid bc it was the only format available and have no desire to go back....long live CDs!
Why did you stop using cassette?
@@thatperson9292 because if you use cassette as a primary format the tapes/cassettes don’t have a long life span relative to albums and cds. The tape gets stretched or eventually eaten and then your out one of your favorite releases.
@@TJCombo67 all my tapes sound fine from late 70s on up. Especially all the old radio stations I recorded.
I came to CDs fairly late, around 1998 I think, just because growing up we simply couldn't afford to splash out on a CD player, not when we already had a faulty Amstrad Music Centre, with turntable, tuner and cassette deck. But once we finally got one I had no desire to go back to vinyl or cassettes.
About 12 years ago I got myself set up with a half-decent Denon system... Just a CD player, an amp and a pair of speakers for about £500, which is a third of what my mate paid just for his turntable. Despite all the money he's thrown at his system, I still think my CDs sound better than his vinyls.
Don't have to use too much volume before it starts BANGIN!
I didn't know they'd gone away! I'm still buying and playing them same as ever.
CDs are a great source of uncompressed (bit wise) audio if you do your own remasters. Beware that some have been released more than once and some of the newer ones have dynamic range compression applied and even clipped waveforms. My advice is to find the oldest UPC code and get that one first. You can always normalize or add some compression if they are not loud enough but you can’t undo clipping, at that point it’s too late to fix it. Imports are also a good source of alternate versions and some sound better than the US release. You can then make what ever file format you like. If you want to go beyond remastering you can try full restoration and fix tape dropouts and glitches that existed in the analog master.
I know what you mean. I bought the digital download of Pat Benetar Greatest Hits-Remastered. Honestly, some of the tracks sound terrible. Remastered doesn't always mean better. I'd throw that out if I could find a vinyl or cd version of the "not remastered" album.
@@allenpamscofield The Van Halen CDs that are available now are a clipped distorted mess, no dynamic range at all. I had to get the old first releases off e-bay to get source that was even fixable. After I did the remastering on those and got the levels up to using all the bits they sound fantastic. It's amazing how many releases there are out there. For example there are at LEAST 9 different Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon CDs out there and they all sound different.
Yep. The Loudness Wars did more to ruin the reputation of CDs than anything else. I'd go for the earliest possible pressing, and I'd avoid later remasters like the plague.
You can't remaster anything without the master. I wish you people would stop calling your versions remastered they're not
@@ericschulze5641 OK, I'll call it "restoration". However, many "masters" no longer exist either lost in the Universal vault fire or just unplayable from time and poor storage. So a CD may be the best source still in existence. It's good enough for me to start with for my collection. Modern technology and fix almost any issue it has.
CD are really the best way to keep music in your collection. I always buy the physical copy and rip my music. I love to just pick out my favorite songs on mp3 format. My phone is my Mp3 player for my car or stereo in my house. I have not left CDs.
It's good to play and own CDs you have purchased, individuals tracks or full albums that you can own the streaming platforms are too expensive & only provide a loan. Your able to skip & reply tracks much more easily ...plus once purchased it's yours.
I never stopped buying CDs. I don't buy as many as I did 20 years ago, but still a few discs per month. Streaming is great for finding new music, and if I really like something, I just go ahead and buy the CD.
To say I own 26.000 cds & 15.000 lps. I love both formats!!!
My apartment lol won't hold that much But that's awesome
And I thought I had plenty at 4,500 CDs and 2,000 albums 😁
CD’s are making a comeback? Never knew they had left in the first place…
not left, but 2021 was the first year in a long time where CD sales increased year over year instead of declining. It was a big jump, ~50% according to Forbes
Most people I know have thrown their CD collection and CD players away and now only listen to music on streaming services.
The Compact Disc never went out of style.
A correction for you my young friend. It’s, recorded, mixed, mastered. That’s what the letter codes identify.
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Pedantic Police here ... SACD (and DSD64 specifically) is not 96khz/24-bit. It is a 2.8Mhz/1-bit sampling rate/bit depth. The 64 comes into play as 2.8Mhz is 64x the CD's 44.1khz sample rate. CD is PCM (pulse code modulation) while SACD/DSD is PDM (pulse density modulation). Also, while the shiny discs do look the same, SACDs have a mark on them indicating their format (as do the jewel case, too).
The ℗ date on any musical medium (including vinyl) is the sound recording copyright date, and was first used in 1972. It shows when that particular recording was first mastered and released. CDs were not in general release until the early 1980s, and most of those early CDs used the same mastering tapes as vinyl or tape versions of the recordings to make digital masters. These may have been the original analog masters, or more likely copies of that original masters sent to various countries. Remastered CDs (or any other medium including downloads) are sound recordings that have used (if possible) the earliest generation master tape to make digital masters for duplication. During this process, noise reduction, equalization, compression, or other electronic adjustments may be implemented to make the resulting sound different than the original master. This constitutes a new sound recording that can be copyrighted with an updated ℗ date. That is the primary reason for remastering and re-issuing music every few years: to extend copyright protection for the owners of the recordings, not necessariy to provide improved audio quality. In fact, many remastered recordings sound worse, especially when excessive compression is used (check out "loudness wars").
Never knew they went away in the first place.
It's nice to have a physical copy of the music, and with a CD I can rip the audio onto a computer, put the files on my phone and listen to them anytime I want. I could never comprehend streaming. Why keep paying money for something you don't even own a copy of?
In most cases, I use Spotify to determine which CD or vinyl should I collect, thats how streaming worth for in my opinion, and I love to collect music I loved
They are consummately durable. A forty-year-old CD sounds just as good today as then. Classical CD's are dirt-cheap because many of the original owners (classical music has always skewed elderly) are dying off. Credible playback is cheap, contrasting to the expensive turntables, tonearms, and cartridges that one needs to avoid tearing up the vinyl disk. You can get adequate sound from an old cast-off DVD player available cheaply at a thrift store.
The recording industry never successfully pushed an improved technology like Blue-Ray disks that might offer wider range of sound or more detailed sound. The CD is the top-quality medium that most people have.
By the way -- analogue recording that prevailed into the 1970's was a literal art of engineering; early digital recording was often done on veritable autopilot.
In the SPARS code on a CD label (AAD, ADD, DDD, etc.), the second letter is actually for "mix" and the third is for "master".
XTC's "Nonesuch" was the only CD I ever saw that was DAD - I always wondered if that was just a joke on their part.
@@mysticwolf75 in reality most was AAD or DAD. Mixing was the last
thing to go digital.
I've never stopped buying em in the first place I've got over 4 thousand of em ❤️
How can CD's make a comeback when they never went out of fashion in the fist place? Compact Disc, in its non-compressed, non MP3 glory days, is the BEST medium ever.
MP3s can sound as good as the CDs if you do it right. Part of the problem is is everybody crush them down to nothing so they wouldn’t take up any space and then they sounded like crap.
Okay, but not exactly, Scott; the best music medium is the Vinyl Record. HOWEVER, it has been said to hear analogue at its fullest it is Open Reel to Reel. I cannot personally say so with Open Reel since I've had no actual listening experience. Anyhow, from my listening experience the Compact Disc is a very close second place, followed by the cassette tape in third place; and pre-recorded in Dolby B.🔉🎼🎵🎶
@@georgeanastasopoulos5865 - Vinyl can't handle an extreme dynamic range. Digital captures it and can then very easily reproduce it. Nobody has used reel to reel in decades, and only extremely few people at that. Nothing wrong with cassette tapes, but you need a damn good tape deck, a very high quality blank cassette, and at least Dolby C - not Dolby B - in your deck. But good sound begins at the recording technique, and a proper venue to realistically capture the sound. This is most important for symphony orchestras.
@Scott Hullinger Yes, I understand, Scott; but from what I know, I've collected pre-recorded cassette tapes recorded with Dolby B. But then I have not collected many Prerecorded music cassettes that I believe have Dolby C; so I'm not certain. Another reason that as I prefer to listen to analogue playback it is from a record, instead of any cassette tape, anyhow. I have plenty of Type 2, and Metal (Type 4) cassette tapes that I've recorded on Dolby C, so I certainly am aware of a difference, and improvement in the sound.
Anyhow, I grew up in the 1960s, to the end of the 1980s. Therefore, I mostly listened to FM radio, records, 8 Track Tape, then shortly afterward the Cassette Tape from the 1970s,1980s; to the early nineteen nineties.
Almost off the topic, because there are plenty of younger vinyl listeners on RUclips who may not be aware; during the Winter Season there is more Static Electricity in the air. Static electricity is responsible for causing those annoying pops, and clicks mostly from a vinyl disc!
However, today, there are newer technologies of expensive, high performance MM phono cartridges. Therefore, there is Audio Technica, Ortofon, Goldring, Grado, and Nagaoka - that has a separate, superior magnet assembly from the manufacturer's claim - that has better, wider stereo imaging. These new cartridges have more dynamic range, and track very well.
There is also the case of an elliptical stylus, Shabata, and Microline, and whatever else a phono cartridge manufacturer has accomplished, and made to pick up a more accurate, and fuller sound. I personally don't know, and cannot say that these technological, and engineering advancements make much of a difference; for a more complete musical playback, but it adds a bit more.
You are certainly correct about dynamic range, and lower noise, even when compared to a Moving Coil cartridge; but then it's about what you prefer. I mostly prefer to listen to music from vinyl disc; but I must admit that after the early 1990s the CD is the preferred playback. 🔉🎼🎵
There are a lot of good buys at yard sales and flea markets. I've gotten decent CDs for $0.25 and even $0.10 each. It's a cheap way to build a CD base. I rip all my CDs in lossless to my HDD and have a 2 point back up system (PC and external drive) in case something happens to them. I can also easily convert things to different formats, making it easy to transfer to various media (phone, memory stick, even a mix CD). I use dbpoweramp tools to convert formats.
Each conversion affects the sound. and CDs today have very poor dynamics especially pop music. loudness war. People report that the same music in other formats may have better dynamics. It may have to do with the fact that people who buy music in other formats are expected by a more expensive stereo and value sound quality higher. what are the other formats response Hi-res and Vinyl or other types of media. such as the SACD
A second hand store chain in my area is selling used CDs for around $2 each.
I've always preferred CDs. I love Cassettes & Vinyl, but CD has always been my favorite 😂
5:47 Aerosmith's "Get the Grip" has AAA on the sleeve.... Probably means Aerosmith Aerosmith Aerosmith 😄
CDs need to make a comeback. I hate listening to pandora or spotify and have to hear an ad every other song. Or hear an ad because I want to listen to a song again. Still got most of my CD collection since high school and nothing beats a CD.
I never stopped buying CDs. The record industry doesn't want CDs because it means providing an actual product to the consumer, and not just some easily revocable DRM subscription software. The same applies to the gaming industry. Streaming audio has its place, but I'll stick with physical since it never truly expires.
If CDs are making a comeback, will new cars have CD players again? I certainly hope so. They are getting harder and harder to find these days..
Kept the vast majority of my CDs.
Still enjoy them.
That said, my hifi setup is amp, streamer, iPhone in, CD player, 3 head cassette deck, turntable, and minidisc player !
I like it all 😃
I still love hunting CDs in the thrift stores. But I’m super fussy about condition. Any scratches and I put it back, you will always find another, and that seems to mean I have good sounding disks.
mini disks sound so good and metal cassettes have a beautiful sound played loud. Same with super vhs. Used to record gigs with a super vhs. the sound strips are so wide its cd quality.
Great to hear from lots of like minded people. I went early into CDs, in those days there wasn’t much available.
I remember they were $20 and quickly rose to $25. That was a lot of money in the early 80s! Taking inflation into account CDs are one of the few commodities that have actually reduced in price. Like many others have said, have picked up some great titles second hand for cheap in physical stores and on eBay. Love the thrill of the hunt. Have 1000+ and still growing.
I don’t use Spotify unlike so many people I know, as many have commented you just can’t beat owning the physical copy!
Well said, Paul.🔉🎼🎵
vinyl expensive cause people like you started to advertise it as something cool to own.
Physical media is great! There's so much art in covers, booklets, and even on the CD itself that's lost to most digital/streaming releases. I feel like it's also a lot more secure. Sure, CDs can scratch; but streaming services and online hosts can take down songs at any time. Not to mention streaming services won't work without an Internet connection. All you need to listen to any sort of physical media is a few batteries or a power outlet. I always listen to music while I'm driving, so I carry a stack of CDs wherever I go. They're way more reliable than radio signals and WiFi; so for me it's especially disheartening to see most new cars stop offering CD players, or even aux jacks in some extreme cases.
I feel like one of the driving forces bringing CDs back is actually Kpop. It's not my cup of tea, but some of my friends are really into it. Kpop CD releases will often come with a bunch of different collectible album cover variations, photo books, postcards, and a whole bunch of other little souvenir items, which I think really helps the CD releases become "more" than their digital counterparts. This is something I'd really like to see some other bands from other genres adopt.
As someone who has been an avid CD user and collector since I was a kid, I certanly hope that CDs make a comeback the same way vinyl has.
I started buying CD's in 1988. They still play great. Get a Disc DR to revive your CD if it gets scratched. Compared to vinyl and tape, CD's are almost indestructable.
I love the sound of the vinyl, but the CD is the most practical format for today’s world. The CD is more portable,smaller, recordable,more durable, and useable in cars. I agree with you on the AAD CD’s because when they remaster the analog CD’s the sound to me isn’t right. I love a CD recorder especially when it has 2 or more trays for CD dubbing. My happy medium is a good receiver, a good turntable and cartridge, a CD recorder with dubbing capability built in, and a carousel CD changer. I hope the CD comes back and Recorder decks become available again. The CD is a lot easier to handle and manage.
minidisc is more practical, litle, protected by it´s casing and still digital, i still record cassettes but also record minidiscs ,for the car it´s the best
@@RUfromthe40s I see your point. The minidisc would be better for car and portable use. As they are smaller and are better protected due to being in a case. Why they didn’t market them better I don’t know.
@@tonyperek7292 they tried but sony wanted to much money for the other brands to own the format, other brands did developed a diferent system of playing atrac files but too late , i did start to use mds because they were almost ofered, the high-end deck from pioneer in mint condition did cost me 20€ ,for the car 50€ from sony and have hundreds of mds that i recorded that i use to buy 20 md for 5€ from sony or tdk .Kind of forced to use them , a good cassette deck around 1.000€ ,tdk sa-x 2 cassettes 4.50€ ,later bought boxes of 10 for 10€ because i had a ct-959 from pioneer that also bought in mint condition for 40€ in 93 but had a ct-737mkII(90) from pioneer and drm-800 from denon since 1989 and several older ones, regards
CDs have been unfairly maligned and , except for the crappy cases and poorly sized liner note presentations are a great format.
Many titles are already rare, and production totals for many of the titles issued as sales of cds declined and mega music stores closed are a mystery. My bet is they were very small.
Think of all the previously unreleased music they brought forth. Compact, durable, quite decent sound-what's not to love?
Great video!
2 things to add to this...
Really good CD players can be had at thrift stores for around $20, and if they are in good physical condition and relatively clean, including inside the CD drawer or platter itself, (if a carousel type), then that usually indicates that it was taken good care of by its original owner, and therefore should probably still perform and play perfectly, (always test it in store before buying if it's used), and so used CD players can be a really great value! In my decades of experience with used/vintage/thrift store gear, I usually find that most Sony brand CD players are usually most commonly still in working order...
Other brands aren't quite as "die hard" reliable in the used market, from what I've noticed, however, there ARE exceptions to this of course! (As I said earlier; always test in store before buying if it's a used CD player!)
One other thing to mention is...
THE "LOUDNESS WARS", which (negatively) affected quite a few new album releases on CD, especially (and very unfortunately), in the Pop, EDM, and Hip-hop genres, and mainly only since 2010 or 2012, when I started to really notice some newer album releases on CD were starting to sound kind of "harsh" or sometimes even "saturated" or distorted, (Billie Eilish comes to mind unfortunately, which was very disappointing, because her music and voice and style overall is great, but her first major release album, "When We All Fall Asleep Where Do We Go?" especially, was majorly distorted in certain songs to the point of occasionally not even being able to understand her vocals/lyrics in certain musical passages where the bass was too strong for the compressor to work properly), (luckily her newer album "Happier Than Ever" was a slightly better sound quality recording overall, except in 1 or 2 songs which were still too loud), but anyway, my point is; that the OVERUSE of EXTREME levels of compression in many more recent albums, where the ENTIRE album is pretty much at the MAXIMUM recording level for CD, (which is actually extremely high, even better than other formats, but still), when the producer or masterer turns the levels on EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM in order for the overall album to sound as LOUD and "impressive" (at the very first few seconds of listening only), but then if you actually listen to the entire album from beginning to end, you end up with "ear fatigue" or maybe even a headache sometimes, which is VERY irritating AND it's totally UNnecessary! (For recording "professionals" to do this!)
That's one reason you had mentioned that oftentimes the older or original release of an album sounds better than the newest "remastered" edition of it. That's not always the case, but if it is that way, then most likely the newer version of said album uses a much higher level of compression than the original recording did, therefore bringing the overall levels of every part of the song up closer to the maximum threshold of (clean) recording onto a CD, and if that point is ever exceeded, even for a split second, then it sounds distorted or at least very harsh on the ears.
Older/original CD pressings of albums before 2010 really didn't do that, especially not as a common or intentional thing, like the (disgusting) recent "LOUDNESS" trend is, so the overall presentation of an older album may seem at first like it's not quite as LOUD or "impressive" (among the very first listen), as a newer album or version might, however, that overall lower recording level is MUCH easier and more enjoyable to listen to long term or even over the length of the entire album because it wasn't stressing out the format or the equipment, and therefore it still left some room for it to "breathe"! (a.k.a. "headroom"... Look it up. That's way too long of a topic to go into here!) Doing that increased the overall dynamic range of the music, the difference from the loudest to the softest passages, and therefore made it much more listenable overall.
If one ever gets a standalone, component style CD recorder, (i.e. not just one on a computer), and ever plays around with making analog to digital recordings of tapes, vinyl, streaming, etc. onto CDs, and plays around with the recording level enough, then you will know to never let the levels go above the "0dB" maximum into the "clipping" threshold, (i.e. never lighting up the "clip" light), or else your music will sound like crap! It definitely sounds exactly like the original or source IF you keep the recording levels below that point, but once you go above it into digital clipping, then you will immediately know it because then the recording will sound like garbage! Lol! (Never do that again!)
The LOUDNESS WARS though, through the OVERUSE of EXTREME levels of compression, makes too many brand new album releases on CD sound harsh and irritating, and unfortunately sometimes even to the point of being almost unlistenable. I really hope that "trend" dies out in popularity and the recording companies start respecting the CD format again, properly utilizing its strengths, while always taking into consideration its "limitations"... "Limitations" that are really only that if the format is grossly abused in that way. (Of recording way above its "safe" dynamic limits of "0dBFS" or 96dB of dynamic range, as mentioned in this video)... Which is PLENTY of range, (MUCH more than vinyl BTW), but only IF it is fully utilized properly, by recording onto the CD WITHOUT totally maxing out EVERY part of the music at ALL times!
Anyway, "rant" over, lol! Anyone who starts getting into the CD format, especially after being "limited" by the overall poorer sound quality of MP3 and/or even most streaming services, will be very satisfied with their music on CD format! It's the overall easiest (physical format) to store, manage long-term, and find used anywhere and everywhere (any thrift store, garage sale, pawn shop, flea market, etc.), VERY wide variety of genres and artists, and for extremely cheap prices too, sometimes as cheap as 10/$1, and regularly (used) for as low as $1 per CD album. (And brand new releases on CD are also still a reasonable $8-$16 or so when first released and on sale)... Plus, if buying used ones, you can just quickly LOOK at the back/underside of the disc to see its condition, and if it's in relatively good shape then it's guaranteed to still play perfectly, which is really cool...
Enjoy your collecting!