I think I finally got an idea on how to improve those already insaely good batreps: When showcasing the armies at the start, how about adding a screenshot from Tabletop Admiral? Would help a bit to understand all of the army a bit faster.
10:47 Jacob should've been allowed to choose who had priority this turn. "If the result is a tie in subsequent turns of the game, then the choice of which player gets Priority will go to the player who did not choose who had Priority in the previous turn"
Thanks for pointing this out! We got this one mixed up and thought whoever had priority would win the roll off. This is one of the best changes of this edition. It gives a lot more decision making and player control into the game.
I disagree and love to see Sauron at lower points! I’ve taken him to 550 in the previous edition and loved it. Going to attempt 500 next month but not sure how it’ll go!!
I think that game was about Barad dur being good, it was about Alex being the Magnus Carlsen of MESBG. Brilliant battle report, my new favourite from this channel! Loved to see Sauron on the table.
I question conquests play this game. He kinda gave the win imo. Charging saroun with his heros knowing he bearly competes letting alex do lots of free damage with saroun. Jacob should of focused on killing the orcs imo and stalled saroun out. Qauter him fast and end the game with a model advantage.
This batrep is a good example of anyone saying Sauron is worse this edition haven't played with the new monster rules. The sheer consistency of monsters to get where they want and kill who they want with barge and hurl is incredibly strong.
Barge change absolutely increases threat, no argument there. If you do not respect it and protect the additional targets a Barge now guarantees threat on, you will get beat up. Hurl for Sauron in the previous edition was used to take out entire battle lines with a high amount of consistency. It now can only threaten one target, which is good but also... Sauron can already do that with Chill Soul. What he needed was the ability to deal with crowds of enemies who were unwilling to engage him. Thats what he lost. That and losing higher quality, cheaper archers. Losing a point of Might off his secondary support caster who is more expensive and no longer has March. Both of these casters had their reliability on some of the spells they had, and power from the effect of some of them reduced. And Sauron's Flames of Evil BPA being nerfed inexplicably...
Cheers! Actually realised that the army contained some of my very first painted models from the edition (the orcs) and my last painted models of the edition (sauron himself). Really happy with how the NMM went on his armour! Alex
Awesome battle report! Hard luck with your dice Jacob :p Would have been cool to see a heroic channeling or two from Elrond though. I think the change is not too useful in a lot of cases because the effects of a lot of magic has been nurfed but is very useful for a caster with a very powerful spell and limited will like Elrond. Would have been a better choice for Elrond than either heroic strike or defence I reckon. Since it would definitely go off with a 6 it would either put Sauron on his butt so he can’t strike blows or drain a huge amount of will from him to prevent him doing chill soul. If Sauron is prone and can’t strike blows in the ensuing fight it’s even better damage prevention than heroic defence and it gives you a chance to hope he makes a bad duel role with no repercussions if he doesn’t (better than trying to improve chances in the duel role with a strike which is now far less likely to have any effect and face damage if the plan doesn’t work). All the better if you hit a few extra orcs with it at the same time. One nice channeled Wrath in the middle of the orcs out of range of Sauron when the lines first clashed properly could have swung the tide a lot too. Hit the banner with it and the banner effect is lost for the turn while prone (which was also clutch for Sauron a few times) and quite a few orcs could have died in one turn from the strength 2 hits plus having no banner and taking double damage. Losing a few too many orcs at the start like that could start a nice snowball of your warriors winning many more fights and mopping them up much faster with less losses - then break for the objectives when there are not enough orcs to stop you and Sauron can’t be everywhere at once. That would have been my approach. Easy to say from the couch though… Sauron is still a beast, never any guarantees with him on the board. And you had some hard luck with some very important and very close roles that didn’t go your way. Great game! Super fun to watch :)
Today, Conquest Creations hits us with another classic Jacob loss. It's now a trope of the genre. Still rooting for you, my friend ! Great batrep as always
I love the cuts between the closeups, and the Ken Burns slow movement pans or zooms. Gives interest even in a static shot. One thing that might help as far as the bigger picture of where the tight shot is occurring on the board, is a shot of the whole board with a light semi-transparent grid overlaying that shot, and a tinted section of the part of the grid in which the shot occupies. This would be a pic-in-pic in one corner. The tinting of the grid sections could all be done ahead of time one, and then you just slide that graphic into the timeline replacing the graphic that was there as you make the cuts between camera angles. Objective markers could be added to that grid. Anyway, the point of this is for the viewer to not lose track of where the tight shot is on the board, in the bigger picture of the battle.
Thanks for the comment, you can see the dice that were rolled behind the miniatures there. We always try to keep these battle reports as consise as possible so often times cut out some dice rolls
20:47 What was that Numenorean archer in the foreground doing this turn being as he didnt move behind Sauron to zone him off from the rest of the battle and protect Isildur? We skipped the shooting phase because there was none so did that guy... try to charge Terror for no reason and fail?
If only Sauron could be that consistent each game. Glad to see barad dur play, but that did feel like dice were in evils favor by a decent margin. This matchup I dont think did justice to whirl of steel, but was a great game and fun watch!
There were some choices that made huge impacts, both to dice and to positioning. I dont think this is a scenario where LA needed to fight Sauron to win the game. The opposing list didnt substantially outnumber him and the early Chill Souls are worth a higher percentage of the enemy army as you even the numbers out. The enemy committing heroes to Sauron, failing to tie fight, two-handing anyway, then him rolling a decent set of duel dice for the win was basically the dream. He got to threaten multiple costly heroes who were weaker than him for the entire game. Even baited Might out of Elrond and got to kill Isildur in the same turn due to poor positioning.
Thanks for the bat rep and Congratz on Kickstarter. Seems Whirl of Blades didn't have much effect this time. Jacob.... didn't you lose another key fight in another recent bat rep when you two handed again? 🙂
Thanks for the comment! It didn't make a huge difference this game, it would have been really nice to have got it off against Sauron to go through his D10. Two handing got better in this edition because if you roll a 6 it stays as a 6. That other batrep was a crazy roll! I reckon it was much less than a 1% chance to have lost that one in the big last alliance battle!
@@ConquestCreations Ah yes sorry you are right I forgot about the new edition rules of keeping the 6 when two handing. still reading the rules book. Thanks for the reply and thanks again for the best Batreps on YT.
I reckon this video is very solid proof of the power of Sauron in this new edition. The changes to monsters as well as making him Dominant is a massive buff for him. At Battle Hardened which was the last big tournament of the last edition we have a Barad Dur army win the 63 player event. Now with all the buffs I reckon we will see him topping even more events.
Good question, overall I like the change. There were a lot of models where it was a no brainer descion to take the spear and shield (Or spear and bow) and as soon as something is an auto choice it isn't adding anything to the game. Now that you can't do that there is a lot more thinking to do in list writing. Spears are great but "do I really want 10 D4 orcs that will get rinsed by shooting or when the front line falls" is a lot more interesting to think about than "I'll spend 10 points and all my orcs are covered". There are obviously some unfortunate collections that are collateral damage. I have 10 Osgiliath Veterans that have spear and shield that are illegal and I popped all the shields off my Fountain Court guard. Ultimately I think its worth it for what it adds to the game.
Oh man I didn't know that. Pretty ruthless. Both the Battle of Pellinor Fields and Osgiliath came with Morannan Orcs. The scenarios in those boxes instruct you to build orcs with spear and shield. Must be some new orc boxes coming out soon, eh?😂
@@MtnGoatGaming As he should be for 400 points. Any 400 point model should dominate a game if that one model overperforms you will win, if it underperforms you will lose.
22:05 wouldn't he need to spend 2 points of might to win? When Jacob spent his might he uped his roll of a 5 to a 6. With 2 handed the 5 counts as a 4 but 6 counts as a 6. In order to match wouldnt he need to spend two points of might?
The rules for two handing specify a natural 6 will remain as a 6. Given that I rolled a 5 it would be reduced to a 4 then the point of might would return it to a 5
Hope you don’t mind if I offer some comments on production as the battle report progresses. Mind you, I am not absolutely sure these would make it better. Just some “maybes.” I think it would help to do a quick recap between turns. Like maybe a graphic showing characters lost on either side of the screen during that turn, with a total lost at bottom of column. Also on a bottom of scene graphic, perhaps a summary of objectives for this scenario. But not sure. Like a Peter Jackson film, there is a pacing factor that is to be considered. You want to keep the energy of the video moving forward.
The higher the point level, the more models on the board. The more models on the board, the more chances to roll for the whirl. The more chances for whirl, the more 6s get rolled and the better the rule is. A fair few scenarios can be won just by getting to the objectives faster and then dying, and Last Alliance not having cavalry or having March on two of their mandatory higher cost heroes means they can sometimes be ignored by the enemy to circumvent whirl. Also, mandatory "get gud, just roll 6s" that a reductive discussion on a dice game warrants. Some games, you will roll 6s every time, others you never will. More they are played the more they average out.
Negative. One dice in the duel resolution and one dice in the wound resolution. The reroll was used on the initial roll to gain a max potential wound increase, so cannot be used to push for wounds in the secondary roll.
I know you defending the crap out of this edition,but i wanted to build out the Defenders of Helm’s deep army because i have all the models for it (except Haldir).So i have 20 Galadhrim warriors and 24 Rohan warriors so i thought in my little brain it’s going to be a good mix until i very quickly realised that only 33% can have the Lothlorien keyword😂😂 and this supposed to be the movie ,,accurate” edition. I haven’t watched the movie recently but I’m pretty confident that they had more elf warriors than rohirrim (500elf 300rohirrim) every time i try to give this edition a chance it’s letting me down 😂
Thanks for the comment, I'm not attacking or defending anything just sharing my thoughts. You may have also been disappointed by the Defenders of Helms Deep Legendary legion in the previous edition as well however, as it had the same restriction.
I do think calling Heroic Defence rather than Strike lost the game there. That and doing two handed at the end. Does feel like Whirl of Blades should be a 5+ to be honest.
Great question, I will always be a Middle Earth SBG purist. This is the only game that I play and I would only make content about a game that I have hundreds of games worth of knowledge
@ConquestCreations sounds like a great plan 👍 I continue to watch your content because it is clear you are passionate about the game as well as creating quality entertainment for your viewers. I wish you all the success in the world.
While I agree with this, I actually think Last Alliance scales exponentially with point level where Barad-dur will end up having a reverse bell curve. LA hates being 600 points and loves being 1000 points. Barad-dur loves being 600-650 points, lost a lot of options between 700-950 but at 1000 gets to flatten out and use some of the new Monsters so goes back to being kind of comfortable just lacking the huge offensive power spikes it could previous get in turns where Sauron and a Fell Beast Witch-King could Heroic Move hurl through a battle line to annihilate someone's heroes... Last Alliance at 600 needs to take two expensive heroes, and they are great but the model count is low so you are highly subject to spikes of RNG (especially if you are choosing not to fight warriors and duel Sauron while applying a penalty to yourself, thats always rough). At 600, Barad-dur in the old edition didnt have much in the way of options in the list building stage, it was always going to be an Orc Captain. So they lost access to basically nothing and got the Dominant buff for Sauron to make objective contest numbers more favourable. And because there are so few things on the board, Sauron will more often be the only valid target.
The units / characters that aren’t in the movies will be coming in a third army book called “Armies of Middle-Earth,” that will likely be coming in the new year.
It's a game based so much on Skills, a Champion can run Hobbits into tournaments. This is what is great, you get to play what you want and give a challenge to any army the opponent is bringing
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I think I finally got an idea on how to improve those already insaely good batreps: When showcasing the armies at the start, how about adding a screenshot from Tabletop Admiral? Would help a bit to understand all of the army a bit faster.
10:47 Jacob should've been allowed to choose who had priority this turn.
"If the result is a tie in subsequent turns of the game, then the choice of which player gets Priority will go to the player who did not choose who had Priority in the previous turn"
Yep, fortunately we are still playing mesbg and not Age of Sigmar
Horrendous rule change, much like the long list of money driven changes that fill the unnecessary new rules.
@@vineyardssouthern It's quite a nice rules change, gives you more to think about, still relies on luck.
Its for when you break the opponent, you can force them to go first now @Oldworldwines
Thanks for pointing this out! We got this one mixed up and thought whoever had priority would win the roll off. This is one of the best changes of this edition. It gives a lot more decision making and player control into the game.
Amazing battle. I kind of wish this was a bigger scale, maybe 800 or 1k, considering we're seeing Sauron on the table.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks mate! We will definetly get bigger once we have a bit more experience in the new edition
I disagree and love to see Sauron at lower points! I’ve taken him to 550 in the previous edition and loved it. Going to attempt 500 next month but not sure how it’ll go!!
Awesome mate, so good to have this much content
Thanks mate, we have heaps more on the way
CONGRATS! I super glad your Kickstarter is going so well!
Thanks mate! We are working hard on concepts for future projects in the back ground to keep the business growing
Love seeing Sauron club elves to death! Thats my favourite pass time. Hope there will be more of him played in the future.
@10:53 on a tie, choice of priority goes to the person who did not have CHOICE of priority last turn, not the person who didn't HAVE priority.
I think that game was about Barad dur being good, it was about Alex being the Magnus Carlsen of MESBG.
Brilliant battle report, my new favourite from this channel! Loved to see Sauron on the table.
I question conquests play this game. He kinda gave the win imo. Charging saroun with his heros knowing he bearly competes letting alex do lots of free damage with saroun. Jacob should of focused on killing the orcs imo and stalled saroun out. Qauter him fast and end the game with a model advantage.
This batrep is a good example of anyone saying Sauron is worse this edition haven't played with the new monster rules. The sheer consistency of monsters to get where they want and kill who they want with barge and hurl is incredibly strong.
Barge change absolutely increases threat, no argument there. If you do not respect it and protect the additional targets a Barge now guarantees threat on, you will get beat up.
Hurl for Sauron in the previous edition was used to take out entire battle lines with a high amount of consistency. It now can only threaten one target, which is good but also... Sauron can already do that with Chill Soul. What he needed was the ability to deal with crowds of enemies who were unwilling to engage him. Thats what he lost.
That and losing higher quality, cheaper archers. Losing a point of Might off his secondary support caster who is more expensive and no longer has March. Both of these casters had their reliability on some of the spells they had, and power from the effect of some of them reduced. And Sauron's Flames of Evil BPA being nerfed inexplicably...
Agreed, those 4-6" barges are amazing!
Alex
Yes!!! I just finished both Good and Evil MGG tier lists and then I see this!! I finally get to see y'all's opinions in action
I think I've done my Barad-Dur opinion proud, but still think Last Alliance is a really good army!
Alex
Very nice! However I think you (Jacob) should roll the whirl of steel for Elrond as well, right? All in all, great vid🙌
99% sure we did it off camera, unfortunately no wound on Sauron!
Alex
That barad dur army is painted phenomenally!
Cheers! Actually realised that the army contained some of my very first painted models from the edition (the orcs) and my last painted models of the edition (sauron himself). Really happy with how the NMM went on his armour!
Alex
Awesome batreps thanks guys
Thanks for the comment mate!
21:03
AAAAAHHHHH
-Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Would love to play on that board, so much depth to it
Loving the new edition content, extra keen to see Kingdom of Rohan in action sometime!
I just need to finally paint my Eomer and Theoden dismounts and they will be ready to go!
Awesome battle report!
Hard luck with your dice Jacob :p
Would have been cool to see a heroic channeling or two from Elrond though. I think the change is not too useful in a lot of cases because the effects of a lot of magic has been nurfed but is very useful for a caster with a very powerful spell and limited will like Elrond.
Would have been a better choice for Elrond than either heroic strike or defence I reckon. Since it would definitely go off with a 6 it would either put Sauron on his butt so he can’t strike blows or drain a huge amount of will from him to prevent him doing chill soul. If Sauron is prone and can’t strike blows in the ensuing fight it’s even better damage prevention than heroic defence and it gives you a chance to hope he makes a bad duel role with no repercussions if he doesn’t (better than trying to improve chances in the duel role with a strike which is now far less likely to have any effect and face damage if the plan doesn’t work). All the better if you hit a few extra orcs with it at the same time.
One nice channeled Wrath in the middle of the orcs out of range of Sauron when the lines first clashed properly could have swung the tide a lot too. Hit the banner with it and the banner effect is lost for the turn while prone (which was also clutch for Sauron a few times) and quite a few orcs could have died in one turn from the strength 2 hits plus having no banner and taking double damage. Losing a few too many orcs at the start like that could start a nice snowball of your warriors winning many more fights and mopping them up much faster with less losses - then break for the objectives when there are not enough orcs to stop you and Sauron can’t be everywhere at once.
That would have been my approach.
Easy to say from the couch though… Sauron is still a beast, never any guarantees with him on the board. And you had some hard luck with some very important and very close roles that didn’t go your way.
Great game! Super fun to watch :)
Today, Conquest Creations hits us with another classic Jacob loss. It's now a trope of the genre.
Still rooting for you, my friend ! Great batrep as always
The streak must continue!
Alex
Great as always
Id love to see you work through the various army lists, with your collection Jacob. Get to see how they all play. :)
I love the cuts between the closeups, and the Ken Burns slow movement pans or zooms. Gives interest even in a static shot. One thing that might help as far as the bigger picture of where the tight shot is occurring on the board, is a shot of the whole board with a light semi-transparent grid overlaying that shot, and a tinted section of the part of the grid in which the shot occupies. This would be a pic-in-pic in one corner. The tinting of the grid sections could all be done ahead of time one, and then you just slide that graphic into the timeline replacing the graphic that was there as you make the cuts between camera angles. Objective markers could be added to that grid.
Anyway, the point of this is for the viewer to not lose track of where the tight shot is on the board, in the bigger picture of the battle.
11:49 How are the orcs moving up that cliff without a climb test?
Thanks for the comment, you can see the dice that were rolled behind the miniatures there. We always try to keep these battle reports as consise as possible so often times cut out some dice rolls
I like how everybody start using two-handed after the ruel change
Jacob's luck against Sauron is always abysmal, poor guy can't catch a break
Hahahah thanks for the comment, I have accepted that my dice don't want me to win on camera
@@ConquestCreations you need to believe in the heart of the dice!
I peep a Royal Decapitator as an orc captain! Very nice. Glory to Ushoran!
Nice match :)
"Master have som extra strength on the hurl" :-P
20:47 What was that Numenorean archer in the foreground doing this turn being as he didnt move behind Sauron to zone him off from the rest of the battle and protect Isildur? We skipped the shooting phase because there was none so did that guy... try to charge Terror for no reason and fail?
I'd love to see a Dunedain battle report with all the hero rangers.
If only Sauron could be that consistent each game. Glad to see barad dur play, but that did feel like dice were in evils favor by a decent margin. This matchup I dont think did justice to whirl of steel, but was a great game and fun watch!
There were some choices that made huge impacts, both to dice and to positioning.
I dont think this is a scenario where LA needed to fight Sauron to win the game.
The opposing list didnt substantially outnumber him and the early Chill Souls are worth a higher percentage of the enemy army as you even the numbers out.
The enemy committing heroes to Sauron, failing to tie fight, two-handing anyway, then him rolling a decent set of duel dice for the win was basically the dream.
He got to threaten multiple costly heroes who were weaker than him for the entire game. Even baited Might out of Elrond and got to kill Isildur in the same turn due to poor positioning.
Alex has the best dice in Australia
0% skill, 100% luck!
Alex
Thanks for the bat rep and Congratz on Kickstarter. Seems Whirl of Blades didn't have much effect this time. Jacob.... didn't you lose another key fight in another recent bat rep when you two handed again? 🙂
Thanks for the comment! It didn't make a huge difference this game, it would have been really nice to have got it off against Sauron to go through his D10. Two handing got better in this edition because if you roll a 6 it stays as a 6. That other batrep was a crazy roll! I reckon it was much less than a 1% chance to have lost that one in the big last alliance battle!
@@ConquestCreations Ah yes sorry you are right I forgot about the new edition rules of keeping the 6 when two handing. still reading the rules book. Thanks for the reply and thanks again for the best Batreps on YT.
Nice shaman and banner orcs, i think you forgot to put a black dot in elrond right eye, looks like he lost it in the war. lol.
I reckon this video is very solid proof of the power of Sauron in this new edition. The changes to monsters as well as making him Dominant is a massive buff for him. At Battle Hardened which was the last big tournament of the last edition we have a Barad Dur army win the 63 player event. Now with all the buffs I reckon we will see him topping even more events.
That's the Odin eye for the foresight points
Are the lists posted anywhere?
Curious to hear your thoughts on “orcs can’t have spears AND shields” this edition.
Good question, overall I like the change. There were a lot of models where it was a no brainer descion to take the spear and shield (Or spear and bow) and as soon as something is an auto choice it isn't adding anything to the game. Now that you can't do that there is a lot more thinking to do in list writing. Spears are great but "do I really want 10 D4 orcs that will get rinsed by shooting or when the front line falls" is a lot more interesting to think about than "I'll spend 10 points and all my orcs are covered".
There are obviously some unfortunate collections that are collateral damage. I have 10 Osgiliath Veterans that have spear and shield that are illegal and I popped all the shields off my Fountain Court guard. Ultimately I think its worth it for what it adds to the game.
I suppose that’s fair. My Angmar force is sadly one that will require fairly extensive “shield removal.”
Oh man I didn't know that.
Pretty ruthless.
Both the Battle of Pellinor Fields and Osgiliath came with Morannan Orcs.
The scenarios in those boxes instruct you to build orcs with spear and shield.
Must be some new orc boxes coming out soon, eh?😂
@carysage morranons orcs still have the ability to take spears and shields
@ConquestCreations Oh good. I've done a lot of plastic surgery on my 40K models this year I didn't want the trend to continue!
Man such poor dice rolls Jacob! Didn’t have much of a chance with that luck!
Any chance for some goblins of Moria action coming soon?
The only thing I learned from this battle is Sauron is OPAF
Wouldn't say overpowered, but when left unchecked can be an absolute menace who can turn the tide of games.
Alex
@@MtnGoatGaming As he should be for 400 points. Any 400 point model should dominate a game if that one model overperforms you will win, if it underperforms you will lose.
New Edition Evil is kicking ass so far
22:05 wouldn't he need to spend 2 points of might to win? When Jacob spent his might he uped his roll of a 5 to a 6. With 2 handed the 5 counts as a 4 but 6 counts as a 6. In order to match wouldnt he need to spend two points of might?
The rules for two handing specify a natural 6 will remain as a 6. Given that I rolled a 5 it would be reduced to a 4 then the point of might would return it to a 5
Conquest dice are definitely not sill dice.
Obviously not microwaved at the right temperature
Alex
Hope you don’t mind if I offer some comments on production as the battle report progresses. Mind you, I am not absolutely sure these would make it better. Just some “maybes.”
I think it would help to do a quick recap between turns. Like maybe a graphic showing characters lost on either side of the screen during that turn, with a total lost at bottom of column.
Also on a bottom of scene graphic, perhaps a summary of objectives for this scenario.
But not sure. Like a Peter Jackson film, there is a pacing factor that is to be considered. You want to keep the energy of the video moving forward.
nice battle report, just 1 thing elrond also gains the Whirl of Steel special rue while he is infantery
I’ve had three games with the last alliance, while whirling steel looks good, it rarely ever goes off.
The higher the point level, the more models on the board. The more models on the board, the more chances to roll for the whirl. The more chances for whirl, the more 6s get rolled and the better the rule is.
A fair few scenarios can be won just by getting to the objectives faster and then dying, and Last Alliance not having cavalry or having March on two of their mandatory higher cost heroes means they can sometimes be ignored by the enemy to circumvent whirl.
Also, mandatory "get gud, just roll 6s" that a reductive discussion on a dice game warrants. Some games, you will roll 6s every time, others you never will. More they are played the more they average out.
Does Lord of the West reroll triger on the second dice of a 6/4 (or 4/3 as it was)?
Negative. One dice in the duel resolution and one dice in the wound resolution. The reroll was used on the initial roll to gain a max potential wound increase, so cannot be used to push for wounds in the secondary roll.
Can you cast spells if your model is tied up by combat now?
Great question, you can't cast if tied up. The only exception is the Vanquishers of the Necromancer legendary legion.
Another great bat rep and another victory to the forces of the Dark Lord and his minions!
For the Algorithm!
Thanks legend!
What the hell is Sauron's base hahahhaha why is he standing so tall
I believe Alex is compensating for something with this model
Jacob rolls about 19 dice can't get a 6.
I know you defending the crap out of this edition,but i wanted to build out the Defenders of Helm’s deep army because i have all the models for it (except Haldir).So i have 20 Galadhrim warriors and 24 Rohan warriors so i thought in my little brain it’s going to be a good mix until i very quickly realised that only 33% can have the Lothlorien keyword😂😂 and this supposed to be the movie ,,accurate” edition. I haven’t watched the movie recently but I’m pretty confident that they had more elf warriors than rohirrim (500elf 300rohirrim) every time i try to give this edition a chance it’s letting me down 😂
Thanks for the comment, I'm not attacking or defending anything just sharing my thoughts. You may have also been disappointed by the Defenders of Helms Deep Legendary legion in the previous edition as well however, as it had the same restriction.
@ big difference in the previous edition that i did not forced me to play the legendary legions hey at least the battle report was cool
The amount of 1’s that Jacob rolled in this game is deeply disturbing!
Let’s gooo
Go Orcs!!
I do think calling Heroic Defence rather than Strike lost the game there.
That and doing two handed at the end.
Does feel like Whirl of Blades should be a 5+ to be honest.
Is there any world that you ever expand out to OPR content?
Great question, I will always be a Middle Earth SBG purist. This is the only game that I play and I would only make content about a game that I have hundreds of games worth of knowledge
@ConquestCreations sounds like a great plan 👍
I continue to watch your content because it is clear you are passionate about the game as well as creating quality entertainment for your viewers.
I wish you all the success in the world.
daum!
This is interesting. IMO the last alliance is probably the strongest new army and Barad dur is one of the weakest.
While I agree with this, I actually think Last Alliance scales exponentially with point level where Barad-dur will end up having a reverse bell curve. LA hates being 600 points and loves being 1000 points. Barad-dur loves being 600-650 points, lost a lot of options between 700-950 but at 1000 gets to flatten out and use some of the new Monsters so goes back to being kind of comfortable just lacking the huge offensive power spikes it could previous get in turns where Sauron and a Fell Beast Witch-King could Heroic Move hurl through a battle line to annihilate someone's heroes...
Last Alliance at 600 needs to take two expensive heroes, and they are great but the model count is low so you are highly subject to spikes of RNG (especially if you are choosing not to fight warriors and duel Sauron while applying a penalty to yourself, thats always rough).
At 600, Barad-dur in the old edition didnt have much in the way of options in the list building stage, it was always going to be an Orc Captain. So they lost access to basically nothing and got the Dominant buff for Sauron to make objective contest numbers more favourable. And because there are so few things on the board, Sauron will more often be the only valid target.
Where are named profiles like suladan, elfhelm, raza delgamar, kazaddum. Nowhere to be found in the new army books
The units / characters that aren’t in the movies will be coming in a third army book called “Armies of Middle-Earth,” that will likely be coming in the new year.
What is wrong with you Alex!???
bUt BaRaDuR IsnT a CoMpeTitIvE aRmy LiSt
- bottom of the rung mesbg players
It's a game based so much on Skills, a Champion can run Hobbits into tournaments. This is what is great, you get to play what you want and give a challenge to any army the opponent is bringing