Good News! Filmic Pro and Zhiyun just announced that the latest version of Filmic Pro can now be controlled with the physical controls on the Smooth 4!
Hi Curtis I am thinking of getting a smooth 4 or a dji 2. can the smooth 4 be used as a stabilizer without the app so i can use 60fps. If so what functions would work without the app ,As the app sounds bad as i have researched . I am wanting to use it with my Galaxy s8 plus . Thanks.
@@HandpanDemonstrate Hi, yes, you can use it without the app, but the follow-focus knob doesn't work and you cannot change camera settings from the gimbal. But otherwise, yes, it works great without the app.
Hy Curtis, this is the best Zhiyun Smooth 4 Instructionvideo i have seen on youtube. my gimbal is coming on friday and i can not wait. Thank you for this nice Video
I think the tracking feature is the most impressive thing about this - where it actually will follow your subject around, moving the gimbal for you, even if unattended on its tripod on a table or something. I wish larger gimbals could do that with regular cameras, but without a way to install an app on the camera, there's no way to tie into their object tracking. BUT, I've heard people are now installing the app on their phones, then mounting their phones to their camera via hot or cold shoe, and letting their larger Zhiyun Crane-class stabilizers use the phone/app combo to move the stabilizer around to let the big camera do its thing. For single operators, Zhiyun is really killing it, and they price their products very fairly, unlike a lot of the other gimbal makers. Even the big Crane Plus and Crane 2 are priced fairly for their class. Now we just need to see what Red's Hydrogen One can bring to the phone recording stable.
Hello dear, may you please advise me, which is better as response of gimbals, Hohem iSteady or this one Zhiyun Smooth 4 smartphone Gimbal Stabilizer? And how much do you think that the microphone type FM1 (shown in video) enhance the voice comparing to without it? thanks
Dear Curtis, Thank you so much for a wonderful video. Can you help us with one feature which we cannot find. How to turn off sound while taking a picture or video in a silent event? Regards, ChessBase India
Great review Curtis. The product was well explained, there's a few of those on RUclips already, but you included some awesome footage in your samples showing not only it's features but a glimpse at your great videographer skills. Subscribed, thank you
Curtis, should talk with others that use this gimbal. Specifically ones that aren't pawns of the company. I had a different experience with the Zhiyum Smooth 4. It never worked and support would allow me to return/replace. It sets in the local land fill now for it's constant software/firmware errors. I bought a FreeFly Movi two weeks ago and have experienced a gimbal now that WORKS so I can add specifically that this gimbal is loaded but problems are too pervasive to make it one that you' d be able to use. It works as a gyroscope, but you don't buy it for that, you buy it to link with the phone via bluetooth. This is a poorly executed gimbal. I am far from the only person with problems.
Didn't bother watching vid.All i wanted to know was is it later than the Q version.It is according to description.That's good enough for me & have used provided link to buy..cheers mate !
Can this hold the galaxy s20 ultra? I ordered but for some reason. It keeps flipping forward and the screen faces down.. it will go up after turned on but after like 3sec is falls floppy again.. It feels like the phone is to big. I have adjusted both counter weight parts it comes with.
Hi Judd, I can only seem to balance my iPhone 7 on this gimbal when it's a little more than half a centimeter away from the base of the harness (not touching it). Why do you think that is and will it cause any problems? Also, I already have a microphone Ive been using with my old cell phone that plugs into the audio port. But it won't work with my iPhone7. What do you suggest? Thanks a lot.
Hi Kimberly, Have you extended the horizontal arm by unscrewing the knob on the back of the arm? As for mics, some people in the comments below have found right angle lightning adapters which then allow them to attach microphones. You might give that a try.
Been looking at this for doing some filming of RC cars. But I've heard and read that the app is not the greatest specially on android. I have a Samsung s9 anyone tested it and what are you thoughts. And also are you able to use the gimbal with out all the special functions like tapping the phones screen to start shooting etc
When mounted on a monopod and shooting top down view for about 30seconds, the gimbal tilts back. Is that due to balancing issue or gimbal can't be held static for longer duration?
I just got mine but i have problems with it. I don't know if the problem is with the gimbal or the app but I can't use some of the modes like slow motion, panoramic mode
sir! can we use for short movie .. I need for mobile film making ..but u said..one cons side "it does not remove completely footsteps .. what effects that.. ?? plz xpln...
You can still see some bouncing when the person operating the gimbal takes steps. All I'm saying is that it is not perfectly smooth, but it is pretty good. Best wishes!
Maybe u can help me I have an lg v20 android and the smooth 4 gimbal zy app don't work with my phone....I then bought an evo gimbal thinking it would work the app keep closing what do you suggest
Does the extreme wide angle lenses work with Smooth 4? I currently use the Smooth q2, but that one can't handle the widest lens at all. The arm gets into the image no matter how I turn the gimbal.
Was this review made with an iPhone or Android phone (which?)? I've read horrible reviews about the Android app having limited and terrible functionality. Any opinions about this?
Hi, I just bought a Zhiyun smooth 4, then install ZY play. I have an issue : after save the video from ZY galery, I checked the video has moved to my galery. the problem is I can't send the video via whatsap, nor edit the video using my video editor in my Iphone. anyone has the same problem?
Hi Jow, yes, the Zhiyun app is one option, though I hear it isn’t the best for Android. There is also FilmicPro. Of course any camera app can record video but without using the controls on the gimbal.
Thanks for your very helpful reviews! Can you please comment whether one could manage to plug a wired lavalier microphone into an iPhone while using this?
Thanks Diane, It looks like you'd need an adapter because the lightning port on iPhone is pressed up against the gimbal harness when operating it. An adapter like this should do the job: amzn.to/2RKOxU6
Hi Floyd, I'm sorry, I don't have an Android phone to tell. Might be best to find a review somebody did with an Android phone and this gimbal. Best wishes!
Curtis - any idea how well this might work with an aftermarket clip-on lens on a smart phone like the 7+ or 6+? Do you think you'll have balance problems?
Hi Pat, I didn't try that as I don't have any clip-on lenses, unfortunately. I think that'd work fine with smaller cameras but might push the weight too far for the larger phones like the 6+ and 7+. I'll let you know if I get a chance to try.
Hi, great video, I’ve just bought the smooth 4 and so far I’m very impressed - but do you know if it can do a fully automated normal video pan? E.g. using the tripod legs - start recording video at exact point and pan for 10 seconds and finish at another exact point. I can do a motion time lapse at 1/30 frame rate which gives me great video but because it’s time lapse it doesn’t record any sound.
Thank goodness I found your video Curtis! Like the one you did for the Zoom H2n (which I shall be coupling to this gimbal soon) you get to the point and dxplain things _so_ well!
Ha ha never knew such a pro audio guy did gimbal review...you are born for reviewing a product may be sir.. a bit funny portion reminded of Mr.Bean..when twice you walked back n forth ...though serious u walked the edit reminded me of that Lol...
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish and where you're shooting - If you're not in good ambient light and the subject will be a little farther from the camera, then yes, a light and microphone will help. Sadly, with iPhones, the lightning port is blocked when in the gimbal so there isn't an easy way to add a microphone.
There's a lot to comment on this video, but I will choose to keep it relatively short. I'll start with price since that's typically one of the first things I look at next to features. This is the same price as the smooth Q when it was first launched and now the smooth Q can be had for about $80. The added features don't justify (almost) doubled price and I'm not about to start becoming a stabilizer hoarder and buy every new iteration. I will probably end up just getting the crane Plus or the next version of the crane Plus which was the updated version of the crane V2. So maybe they'll call it the crane plus plus 😂? I'm just glad I've did my research and have kept up with the naming road map. The way zhiyun is naming their gear is really confusing if you're new. One of the main problems with this stabilizer is that they forgot to include or think about things such as external mics and lights. I know there are there party adapters and I'm sure this might have been on purpose for them to sell additional accessories but I find this to be a horrible model. I had to use my manfrotto mini Pixi legs for the bottom of my smooth Q so it could stand. I just can't believe that it was an afterthought and then they put it into the smooth 4. The weight limit also is a problem and the size of the phone mount. As you noted this doesn't like Big Apple phones and also big phones without the case. I don't want to have to constantly take out my phone in order to use it with the smooth for. I also would like to use my external mic like the videomic me. It also boggles the mind how zhiyun thought about only the phone but didn't leave enough weight capacity to attach a moment lens or similar cheap lens or a tiny mic. With all these issues a person should just get the crane M or crane plus. After seeing you at NAB (video). I knew you would eventually get around to reviewing the smooth 4. Your fellow "RUclipsrs" like kitty from atola visuals and James Matthews (who by the way don't even know what NAB stands for,) already released their videos a few weeks ago but as always I was somewhat disappointed in their presentation and review. I tend to take in the entire landscape even if I don't like some of the people in it just to stay current on who's who and who sponsors like. The younger tech RUclipsrs always try to be "creative" with their product reviews but tend to leave out the important details of the actual products. They are more interested in making the viewer click their affiliate link. While I don't think I'll buy the smooth 4, at least until it gets to the $80 level which will take another 6-8 months. I'm always interested in knowing the new features. That way I don't have to do research when it comes time for me to buy. Even though I already knew the features of this stabilizer, I much prefer giving you my AdSense time.
Thanks for the thoughts! I didn't have high expectations, but was pleasantly surprised and had fun shooting with the Smooth 4. Is it a critical, must-add-to-the-kit piece of gear? Definitely stick with your instincts, That'll differ from person to person. Happy shooting!
Curtis, have you heard of any complaints with the Smooth 4 with Android phones (maybe more specifically Samsung Note 5) where the dial's actions are not smooth at all? I find it very jerky and unreliable with respect to that.
Hi Curtis, let me know how to keep the movie very smooth, it seams like my recording is slow and delayed .I am using Iphone 6 .It is very hard to balance it with the case on.Is there a place where I can see how to use this gimbal. Thank you for you help and your post here .
Hi Krzysztof, I’m not affiliated with Zhiyun but their support should be able to help solve any technical issues. I would recommend using the default camera app which comes with iPhone to see if that seems less slow and delayed. That’ll tell you whether there’s an issue with the Zhiyun app. As for keeping the movie smooth, definitely practice walking with your knees slightly bent and using your ankles to smooth steps as much as possible. Also, need to keep your arm, elbow, and wrist limber and smooth. Some people find holding the gimbal with two hands helps as well. Good luck!
Curtis, I really like your style of tuition and look forward to more from you. I’ve just bought a Smooth 4. My iPhone 7’s battery doesn’t last more than 25 minuets! I’m not recording, just getting use to it around the house. Is there a setting I need to adjust in the phone to extend battery life? I’ve bought a special charging adapter which allows the phone to remain mounted to the gimble and a iPhone cable to plug in but there doesn’t seem to be a cable on the market to connect the two when mounted and on the go. Can you advise please. Thanks Peter
This is my concern, as I just purchased the Smooth 4. Waiting for it to be delivered, today. I found this cable on Amazon, hopefully it’ll help solve this problem www.amazon.com/DF-DIGITALFOTO-Charge-Samsung-Android/dp/B07FDXK5SD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1531888056&sr=8-3&keywords=charge+cable+for+smooth+4
hi , but only the problem is , 12 hours battery backup for Gimbel , but when this iPhone connect through the app , with is a hour the phone battery will come down and getting over heat , also we can’t charge the phone from the Gimbel, it’s not well product , human hand is best Gimbel
Thanks Tony. OIS = optical image stabilization and EIS = electronic image stabilization. OIS is hardware on your phone, EIS is software. Usually OIS is better but give each a try and see what kinds of results you get with each. Good luck!
So I recently got my smooth 4 and it's amazing your tips really help but one thing I have noticed is that a pinkish purple ish light appears after awhile and the stabilizer turns itself. The smooth 4 is still connected to my phone through Bluetooth but the stabilizer is off completely any idea on how to fix that?
Hi sir. Is Zhiyun Smooth 4 compatible with Oppo F9? I really need answers because if its compatible with my oppo f9, i have a plan to purchase one for myself. Thank you sir and God bless!
i did not get your point about its battery issue.................................in what time does it wear out? 500 cycles.........................mean one can charge battery 500 times and then it will be finished???
That's the idea, yes. 500 times is quite a lot of times. If you charged it every day, it would last about 1.7 years. But each charge lasts a long time. So if you're shooting for 12 hours every day, you'll definitely get your money's worth after 1.7 years. :)
@@mr.nine9 Yes, but I have heard that the app on Android is not great. But just using the phone's camera app, you can get nice smooth shots with this, you just cannot use the focus/zoom control.
Hi Abdullah, yes. The only thing that will not work is that you cannot change the settings or start/stop the video or take a picture with the controls on the gimbal handle with the native iOS camera app.
Great overview, thanks Curtis! I have a Pocophone F1 so I presume the Smooth 4 zoom function is not going to work for me? The only thing holding me back from buying is the issue of the batteries not being replaceable. Are yours still charging? Have you heard of this aspect bring a problem?
Hi Liam, that was what I heard - Android app did not support the zoom function. I gave mine to my brother and he still has it. He doesn't use it a lot, but still working.
Hey ! 1 more question. If you attach something like a moment anamorphic or the moment wide lens, will the gimbal balance the shot properly or we have to attach counter weight (not sire we can do that) ?
Not sure as I don't have an accessory lens. My sense is that would be too much weight if you're using one of the 6 inch or larger phones. *Might* work with the smaller phones if the accessory lens is light enough. Will try to test some time.
Curtis Judd thanks for the reply! Btw I saw an official moment video just now in which they said that the smooth 4 gimbal will work with the moment lens and case if you attach a moment counterweight which will work good with the smooth 4. Sorry for the question.
Curtis great video, I'm on the cusp of buying. Any experience with this counterweight recommended by Zhiyun? EACHSHOT Universal Counterweight for Zhiyun Smooth 4 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G56PZYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3A14HZTSVPRLX&psc=1#customerReviews
Soon as I saw Curtis Judd next to the videos title, I knew it was going to be good. This is by far the best video on the Smooth 4. One thing I see in every video but yours however is how bad the Zhiyun app is and that the DJI app is better overall which is saying a lot since the DJI app is not very good. What’s your take on the app Curtis?
Hi Giulio, thanks! I haven’t used the DJI app so I don’t have that as a reference point. The app is ok. I like that it allows manual exposure control. I don’t like that it doesn’t use the image stabilizer of my iPhone 7. I am told they’re adding that “in a future update.” It isn’t perfect but also not the worst I’ve used.
Hi Stuart, that's correct, I haven't reviewed any other action cam gimbals. Probably best to check channels like MicBergsma for action cam related reviews.
Curtis...Thank you for this Zhiyun Smooth 4 info video! You are my go to for any camera, video, lighting and audio. Ordered one yesterday on Amazon Prime...only $100. I will be using a Samsung Galaxy S7 of which they say should be fine. Software app...your thoughts on FilMic Pro vs ZY ZY Play? Thanks again Curtis!
+Eli L hi Eli, thanks. I tend not to use the joystick while shooting on most gimbals because the start/stop motion is a bit robotic looking so not something I missed here. If it is something you use a lot, you may miss it.
Good News! Filmic Pro and Zhiyun just announced that the latest version of Filmic Pro can now be controlled with the physical controls on the Smooth 4!
Curtis Judd does it work in iPhone 6s ???
@@motorrad_vlogs Yes
Curtis Judd thanks a lot
Hi Curtis I am thinking of getting a smooth 4 or a dji 2. can the smooth 4 be used as a stabilizer without the app so i can use 60fps. If so what functions would work without the app ,As the app sounds bad as i have researched . I am wanting to use it with my Galaxy s8 plus . Thanks.
@@HandpanDemonstrate Hi, yes, you can use it without the app, but the follow-focus knob doesn't work and you cannot change camera settings from the gimbal. But otherwise, yes, it works great without the app.
This is the best review on the Smooth 4 on RUclips. Great job!
Thanks!
I'd have to agree. Very well done and I've watch quite a few videos so far.
+1
The black is so much more nicer looking. 👍
With my dirty paws, I think its the better choice. 😉
Will use this gimbal for RUclips live streaming
Yes.
This is the best video overview of Smooth 4 gimbal. Thanks for making and sharing it.
Thanks D Manalang!
i just bought smooth 4 and struggling to learn on how to use it. your review and tips helps a lot. thanks again.
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Hy Curtis, this is the best Zhiyun Smooth 4 Instructionvideo i have seen on youtube. my gimbal is coming on friday and i can not wait. Thank you for this nice Video
Thanks Christian! I hope you like the Smooth 4!
Can u share urexperience with this gimbal sir?thanks
Sir I have smooth 4 gimbal but it can't work when the on gimbal it's show redlight on grip
Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
I think the tracking feature is the most impressive thing about this - where it actually will follow your subject around, moving the gimbal for you, even if unattended on its tripod on a table or something. I wish larger gimbals could do that with regular cameras, but without a way to install an app on the camera, there's no way to tie into their object tracking. BUT, I've heard people are now installing the app on their phones, then mounting their phones to their camera via hot or cold shoe, and letting their larger Zhiyun Crane-class stabilizers use the phone/app combo to move the stabilizer around to let the big camera do its thing. For single operators, Zhiyun is really killing it, and they price their products very fairly, unlike a lot of the other gimbal makers. Even the big Crane Plus and Crane 2 are priced fairly for their class. Now we just need to see what Red's Hydrogen One can bring to the phone recording stable.
Thanks for your thoughts, genjii931. Interesting notes re: using the phone for tracking with a larger camera.
Hello dear, may you please advise me, which is better as response of gimbals, Hohem iSteady or this one
Zhiyun Smooth 4 smartphone Gimbal Stabilizer?
And how much do you think that the microphone type FM1 (shown in video) enhance the voice comparing to without it?
thanks
Hi Elias, unfortunately I haven’t used the Hohem so I’m not sure. Best wishes!
Dear Curtis, Thank you so much for a wonderful video. Can you help us with one feature which we cannot find. How to turn off sound while taking a picture or video in a silent event?
Regards,
ChessBase India
Hi, you’ll want to contact the manufacturer of your phone for details on how to do that. Best wishes!
Great review Curtis. The product was well explained, there's a few of those on RUclips already, but you included some awesome footage in your samples showing not only it's features but a glimpse at your great videographer skills. Subscribed, thank you
Thanks Anon.
Good video. I read that the walking mode you should adopt whilst filming is the "Groucho walk".
Thanks. I haven't heard of the groucho walk. Will need to look that up. :-D
Will attach gimbal to tripod?
Yes.
You pretty much convinced me to buy one of these gimbals with your great video. Nice job!
👍 I hope it works well for you!
@@curtisjudd Thank you!
Subscribed!! Best review I have seen (and I’ve watched many) on the Zhiyun Smooth 4.
Thanks Nigel!
Curtis, should talk with others that use this gimbal. Specifically ones that aren't pawns of the company. I had a different experience with the Zhiyum Smooth 4. It never worked
and support would allow me to return/replace. It sets in the local land fill now for it's constant software/firmware errors. I bought a FreeFly Movi two weeks ago and have experienced a
gimbal now that WORKS so I can add specifically that this gimbal is loaded but problems are too pervasive to make it one that you' d be able to use. It works as a gyroscope, but you don't buy it for that, you buy it to link with the phone via bluetooth. This is a poorly executed gimbal. I am far from the only person with problems.
I can only speak to my experience. I am sorry that your experience was not so good. :(
Didn't bother watching vid.All i wanted to know was is it later than the Q version.It is according to description.That's good enough for me & have used provided link to buy..cheers mate !
Thx
Can this hold the galaxy s20 ultra? I ordered but for some reason. It keeps flipping forward and the screen faces down.. it will go up after turned on but after like 3sec is falls floppy again.. It feels like the phone is to big. I have adjusted both counter weight parts it comes with.
Not sure. Might be best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
İts wery good but I cant use wireless microphone with İphone 8 plas :(
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How to slove redlight indicator on gimbal
I’m sorry, I don’t understand.
Hi Judd,
I can only seem to balance my iPhone 7 on this gimbal when it's a little more than half a centimeter away from the base of the harness (not touching it). Why do you think that is and will it cause any problems?
Also, I already have a microphone Ive been using with my old cell phone that plugs into the audio port. But it won't work with my iPhone7. What do you suggest?
Thanks a lot.
Hi Kimberly, Have you extended the horizontal arm by unscrewing the knob on the back of the arm? As for mics, some people in the comments below have found right angle lightning adapters which then allow them to attach microphones. You might give that a try.
Hello, hows object tracking with s8 plus... ıs ıt work fine when you walk and recording , thank you
Not sure since I don’t have an S8 but I’ve been told that the Android ZY Play app has some issues
Been looking at this for doing some filming of RC cars. But I've heard and read that the app is not the greatest specially on android. I have a Samsung s9 anyone tested it and what are you thoughts. And also are you able to use the gimbal with out all the special functions like tapping the phones screen to start shooting etc
Hi Jeremy, Chris Pitt left some comments here suggesting that it does not work well with S9.
When mounted on a monopod and shooting top down view for about 30seconds, the gimbal tilts back. Is that due to balancing issue or gimbal can't be held static for longer duration?
Good question, I'm not sure. May be best to contact Zhiyun support to get their input. Best wishes!
is it possible to tilt the camera slightly sideways? - not left or right but left side of the phone goes down and right side of the phone goes up?
Not that I saw.
I just got mine but i have problems with it. I don't know if the problem is with the gimbal or the app but I can't use some of the modes like slow motion, panoramic mode
Hi cara, probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Hopefully they can get these sorted out for you. Best wishes!
sir! can we use for short movie .. I need for mobile film making ..but u said..one cons side "it does not remove completely footsteps .. what effects that.. ?? plz xpln...
You can still see some bouncing when the person operating the gimbal takes steps. All I'm saying is that it is not perfectly smooth, but it is pretty good. Best wishes!
Im pretty late for this but may i know how much it costs in US dollar?
Currently $120. Links in the description.
Does the zoom nob work smoothly on android because I saw a video saying that it works smooth only in iphones and it is jerky on android.
Not sure, I tested with iPhone 7+
Hi Sir, the L lock works with app or not, why mine can't be lock pan right, left, I just want lock both sides easier to control, show me how thank you
Hi Duc Do, I'm afraid that I do not understand your question.
Maybe u can help me I have an lg v20 android and the smooth 4 gimbal zy app don't work with my phone....I then bought an evo gimbal thinking it would work the app keep closing what do you suggest
I'm sorry, I'm not sure. Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
I checked the manual and it list the phones that work with the app so I'll go on amazon
GREAT VIDEO, I PURCHASED ONE OF THOSE COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, HAVE NOT RECEIVED YET, BUT THANK YOU FOR DESCRIPTION, GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO AND EXPLAINING
Thanks Robert.
Does the extreme wide angle lenses work with Smooth 4? I currently use the Smooth q2, but that one can't handle the widest lens at all. The arm gets into the image no matter how I turn the gimbal.
I don't think so. I don't have it on hand to test, but I would expect the arms on this to be in the way of the ultrawide cameras.
Excellent review always Curtis, Thank You!!
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Was this review made with an iPhone or Android phone (which?)?
I've read horrible reviews about the Android app having limited and terrible functionality.
Any opinions about this?
This was all with iPhone 7+. I have heard that the Android app is not so great.
Thank you for the concise review Curtis!
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Hi,
I just bought a Zhiyun smooth 4, then install ZY play.
I have an issue : after save the video from ZY galery, I checked the video has moved to my galery. the problem is I can't send the video via whatsap, nor edit the video using my video editor in my Iphone.
anyone has the same problem?
I haven't had this problem, but I haven't used the ZY play app for a very long time.
I'm interested in this product just wondering if this works with all samsung devices i have checked their website but it doesn't specify
Hi Ms Chichi, I have an iPhone so I’m not sure but I have heard that the Android app is not very good so be cautious.
Hi, will this work with the New Insta360 EVO in 180 mode ?. I know the app won't work, I think it should but what do you think🤔. thanks
I have an Insta360 on the way. Will check it out when it arrives.
Is there a good way to mount an external mic on this thing? ...something like the Eachshot Q ring for the Smooth Q version?
I would attach it to the 1/4” tap on the bottom of the handle, of course first removing the tripod.
Thanks for this informative overview. Btw the crane shots looked awesome !
Thanks!
so how can I use an external microphone using my iPhone 8 plus with this gimbal?
I haven't found a way, unfortunately.
With a 6 foot monopod it will be Epic, just ordered on. Thanks for the review.
Epic indeed! I hope it works well for you!
I bought it and really like it. Great review Curtis.
Thanks Gary!
Hi may I ask if this gimbal works with samsung s8? And what app should be use? Thanks
Hi Jow, yes, the Zhiyun app is one option, though I hear it isn’t the best for Android. There is also FilmicPro. Of course any camera app can record video but without using the controls on the gimbal.
check this out. This guy in Vancouver uses that exact setup. Read the comments:
ruclips.net/video/kg81BLlCnDY/видео.html
Thank you, this was incredibly helpful.
Thanks!
Thanks for your very helpful reviews!
Can you please comment whether one could manage to plug a wired lavalier microphone into an iPhone while using this?
Thanks Diane, It looks like you'd need an adapter because the lightning port on iPhone is pressed up against the gimbal harness when operating it. An adapter like this should do the job: amzn.to/2RKOxU6
So is it only the 4k? Does 1080 work? Any other features that does not work? Thanks for replying by the way.
Hi Floyd, I'm sorry, I don't have an Android phone to tell. Might be best to find a review somebody did with an Android phone and this gimbal. Best wishes!
Curtis - any idea how well this might work with an aftermarket clip-on lens on a smart phone like the 7+ or 6+? Do you think you'll have balance problems?
Hi Pat, I didn't try that as I don't have any clip-on lenses, unfortunately. I think that'd work fine with smaller cameras but might push the weight too far for the larger phones like the 6+ and 7+. I'll let you know if I get a chance to try.
Can I place the camera then set it to cord me doing a exercise class?
On iPhone, yes. Not sure about Android.
Hi, great video, I’ve just bought the smooth 4 and so far I’m very impressed - but do you know if it can do a fully automated normal video pan? E.g. using the tripod legs - start recording video at exact point and pan for 10 seconds and finish at another exact point. I can do a motion time lapse at 1/30 frame rate which gives me great video but because it’s time lapse it doesn’t record any sound.
Hi Martin, I'm not certain. I'll give it a try next time I'm using the Smooth 4.
Thank goodness I found your video Curtis! Like the one you did for the Zoom H2n (which I shall be coupling to this gimbal soon) you get to the point and dxplain things _so_ well!
Thanks Hugh!
Ha ha never knew such a pro audio guy did gimbal review...you are born for reviewing a product may be sir.. a bit funny portion reminded of Mr.Bean..when twice you walked back n forth ...though serious u walked the edit reminded me of that Lol...
Oh wow, I forgot about this. I haven't reviewed gimbals recently and glad that it reminded you of Mr. Bean. 👍
Any idea how to lock AF with this gimbal? Without it I can lock the AF. with the gimabl I can't. Why?
I don’t have it anymore but if you contact their support, they should be able to help.
I don’t have it anymore but if you contact their support, they should be able to help.
Great video. Just subscribed. Really like your no “BS” review. My gimbal will be delivered tomorrow so I can’t wait to do some filming.
Thanks Ken - I hope it helps you get some great clips!
Hello, not knowing much about media selfie sticks. Is a microphone or/& light a must have to be as professional as the next guy?
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish and where you're shooting - If you're not in good ambient light and the subject will be a little farther from the camera, then yes, a light and microphone will help. Sadly, with iPhones, the lightning port is blocked when in the gimbal so there isn't an easy way to add a microphone.
There's a lot to comment on this video, but I will choose to keep it relatively short. I'll start with price since that's typically one of the first things I look at next to features. This is the same price as the smooth Q when it was first launched and now the smooth Q can be had for about $80. The added features don't justify (almost) doubled price and I'm not about to start becoming a stabilizer hoarder and buy every new iteration. I will probably end up just getting the crane Plus or the next version of the crane Plus which was the updated version of the crane V2. So maybe they'll call it the crane plus plus 😂? I'm just glad I've did my research and have kept up with the naming road map. The way zhiyun is naming their gear is really confusing if you're new. One of the main problems with this stabilizer is that they forgot to include or think about things such as external mics and lights. I know there are there party adapters and I'm sure this might have been on purpose for them to sell additional accessories but I find this to be a horrible model. I had to use my manfrotto mini Pixi legs for the bottom of my smooth Q so it could stand. I just can't believe that it was an afterthought and then they put it into the smooth 4. The weight limit also is a problem and the size of the phone mount. As you noted this doesn't like Big Apple phones and also big phones without the case. I don't want to have to constantly take out my phone in order to use it with the smooth for. I also would like to use my external mic like the videomic me. It also boggles the mind how zhiyun thought about only the phone but didn't leave enough weight capacity to attach a moment lens or similar cheap lens or a tiny mic. With all these issues a person should just get the crane M or crane plus.
After seeing you at NAB (video). I knew you would eventually get around to reviewing the smooth 4. Your fellow "RUclipsrs" like kitty from atola visuals and James Matthews (who by the way don't even know what NAB stands for,) already released their videos a few weeks ago but as always I was somewhat disappointed in their presentation and review. I tend to take in the entire landscape even if I don't like some of the people in it just to stay current on who's who and who sponsors like.
The younger tech RUclipsrs always try to be "creative" with their product reviews but tend to leave out the important details of the actual products. They are more interested in making the viewer click their affiliate link.
While I don't think I'll buy the smooth 4, at least until it gets to the $80 level which will take another 6-8 months. I'm always interested in knowing the new features. That way I don't have to do research when it comes time for me to buy.
Even though I already knew the features of this stabilizer, I much prefer giving you my AdSense time.
Thanks for the thoughts! I didn't have high expectations, but was pleasantly surprised and had fun shooting with the Smooth 4. Is it a critical, must-add-to-the-kit piece of gear? Definitely stick with your instincts, That'll differ from person to person. Happy shooting!
Can we switch the Camera back to front while recording a video...... Can you please answer
I’m don’t think so. I’d test that but I gave the gimbal to my brother for a project.
hello, Do you know if I can use the ZHIYUN assistant app with the Smooth 4?
I don't think so, I think just the ZY Play app. But best to contact Zhiyun support to be certain.
Dual Ports Adapter for iPhone X splitter gives you that extra real estate to charge your phone and use audio mics. Invest in it guys!
This? amzn.to/2DdiVna
Looks like it would work for the non-plus or max phones but would move the larger phones too far off axis to balance the phone.
How do you connect the microphone if you have iPhone 10 or iPhone 11
Not sure. Probably best to contact Zhiyun support.
Curtis, have you heard of any complaints with the Smooth 4 with Android phones (maybe more specifically Samsung Note 5) where the dial's actions are not smooth at all? I find it very jerky and unreliable with respect to that.
Yes, lots of people in the comments here say that the Zhiyun app doesn't work well on their Android phones.
Very professional and helpful video, thank you:)
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Will this work on a Samsung Galaxy Note 9?
Yes, but I have heard that the Zhiyun app for Android is not great. You'll find some more details in the comments on the video below.
I have a different brand gimbal and I use that monopod trick too. Cheap litle way to get a nice crane shot :)
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Yeah, I know you're tall, Curtis, but seeing your footage I was surprised anyway. I felt kind of dwarfish even though I'm 6 feet. Nice trick.
Lau: instagram.com/p/Bhc7oIJn1pN/?taken-by=basicfilmmaker
Since I do not really play basketball, I do crane shots. ;-)
Hi Curtis, let me know how to keep the movie very smooth, it seams like my recording is slow and delayed .I am using Iphone 6 .It is very hard to balance it with the case on.Is there a place where I can see how to use this gimbal. Thank you for you help and your post here .
Hi Krzysztof, I’m not affiliated with Zhiyun but their support should be able to help solve any technical issues. I would recommend using the default camera app which comes with iPhone to see if that seems less slow and delayed. That’ll tell you whether there’s an issue with the Zhiyun app. As for keeping the movie smooth, definitely practice walking with your knees slightly bent and using your ankles to smooth steps as much as possible. Also, need to keep your arm, elbow, and wrist limber and smooth. Some people find holding the gimbal with two hands helps as well. Good luck!
Curtis Judd thank You. If I change the frame speed would that help? Again,thank you I will try.
Definitely give it a try. Higher framerates (e.g., 60fps) will have a smoother look.
Curtis Judd Thanks, I did try it today and worked much better.
Curtis, I really like your style of tuition and look forward to more from you. I’ve just bought a Smooth 4. My iPhone 7’s battery doesn’t last more than 25 minuets! I’m not recording, just getting use to it around the house. Is there a setting I need to adjust in the phone to extend battery life? I’ve bought a special charging adapter which allows the phone to remain mounted to the gimble and a iPhone cable to plug in but there doesn’t seem to be a cable on the market to connect the two when mounted and on the go. Can you advise please. Thanks Peter
This is my concern, as I just purchased the Smooth 4. Waiting for it to be delivered, today. I found this cable on Amazon, hopefully it’ll help solve this problem www.amazon.com/DF-DIGITALFOTO-Charge-Samsung-Android/dp/B07FDXK5SD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1531888056&sr=8-3&keywords=charge+cable+for+smooth+4
The cable I found here on RUclips ruclips.net/video/fvf2o7C5drw/видео.html
Thanks for that Nigel. Looks like a good solution!
hi , but only the problem is , 12 hours battery backup for Gimbel , but when this iPhone connect through the app , with is a hour the phone battery will come down and getting over heat , also we can’t charge the phone from the Gimbel, it’s not well product , human hand is best Gimbel
I agree, I gave up on motorized gimbals. No more gimbal reviews from me. 😁
no integration with manual adjusting app like filmicPro?
Correct, no integration with filmic pro. There are manual exposure capabilities in the ZY Play app and manual focus with the focus/zoom knob.
Great review. Thanks! Question... what’s the difference between OIS and EIS in the settings?
Thanks Tony. OIS = optical image stabilization and EIS = electronic image stabilization. OIS is hardware on your phone, EIS is software. Usually OIS is better but give each a try and see what kinds of results you get with each. Good luck!
Does this gimble allow to pause video recording?
Hmm. Not that I recall.
So I recently got my smooth 4 and it's amazing your tips really help but one thing I have noticed is that a pinkish purple ish light appears after awhile and the stabilizer turns itself. The smooth 4 is still connected to my phone through Bluetooth but the stabilizer is off completely any idea on how to fix that?
Hi Carlos, sounds like it is slipping into standby mode. I haven't run into that issue. Might be best to contact Zhiyun support. Best wishes!
Andrew Reyes are you using a 8plus? I’m running into the same issue after about 5 minutes
Can i use my original phone camera app or i have to use gimball app?
You can use the default camera app, no problem. You just cannot use the knob to zoom or focus with the default camera app.
Excellent video - helped me decide to purchase it, which I did. Thanks very much.
Thanks Rory. I hope it works well for you!
Love your reviews, so pro! 👌
Thanks Stewart!
Can I use in a Iphone 8 and Samsung galaxy S8?
Yes for the iPhone. Not sure about the Galaxy S8.
Hi sir. Is Zhiyun Smooth 4 compatible with Oppo F9? I really need answers because if its compatible with my oppo f9, i have a plan to purchase one for myself. Thank you sir and God bless!
I don’t have an Oppo F9 to test that but Zhiyun support should be able to confirm. Beat wishes!
@@curtisjudd thanks for the quick response sir! I really hope it's compatible with oppo f9.. "sigh"... :(
Will huawei honor 8x 6.5 inch fit in..?
Not sure, best to contact Zhiyun support.
i did not get your point about its battery issue.................................in what time does it wear out?
500 cycles.........................mean one can charge battery 500 times and then it will be finished???
That's the idea, yes. 500 times is quite a lot of times. If you charged it every day, it would last about 1.7 years. But each charge lasts a long time. So if you're shooting for 12 hours every day, you'll definitely get your money's worth after 1.7 years. :)
@@curtisjudd thanks a lot for your quick response,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,last thing, is it ok with Samsung mobiles?????
@@mr.nine9 Yes, but I have heard that the app on Android is not great. But just using the phone's camera app, you can get nice smooth shots with this, you just cannot use the focus/zoom control.
@@curtisjudd appreciated
can I use the original camera app on my iPhone instead of Gimbal app? because camera app has the feature of taking picture while recording video
Hi Abdullah, yes. The only thing that will not work is that you cannot change the settings or start/stop the video or take a picture with the controls on the gimbal handle with the native iOS camera app.
Curtis Judd ، Thank you and I appreciate your response
Great overview, thanks Curtis! I have a Pocophone F1 so I presume the Smooth 4 zoom function is not going to work for me? The only thing holding me back from buying is the issue of the batteries not being replaceable. Are yours still charging? Have you heard of this aspect bring a problem?
Hi Liam, that was what I heard - Android app did not support the zoom function. I gave mine to my brother and he still has it. He doesn't use it a lot, but still working.
Heyy..does this works on iphone 11?Thanks😄
I’m not sure, but Zhiyun support should be able to confirm.
Hi Curtis, Can I use this gimbal for my old Gopro 4+ Thanks
I think you'd need some sort of 3rd party harness to make that work. Or 3D print one yourself.
Why is the filming done? video has a sound but can't run?
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
Hey ! 1 more question. If you attach something like a moment anamorphic or the moment wide lens, will the gimbal balance the shot properly or we have to attach counter weight (not sire we can do that) ?
Not sure as I don't have an accessory lens. My sense is that would be too much weight if you're using one of the 6 inch or larger phones. *Might* work with the smaller phones if the accessory lens is light enough. Will try to test some time.
Curtis Judd thanks for the reply! Btw I saw an official moment video just now in which they said that the smooth 4 gimbal will work with the moment lens and case if you attach a moment counterweight which will work good with the smooth 4.
Sorry for the question.
Curtis great video, I'm on the cusp of buying. Any experience with this counterweight recommended by Zhiyun? EACHSHOT Universal Counterweight for Zhiyun Smooth 4 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G56PZYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3A14HZTSVPRLX&psc=1#customerReviews
Thanks, good review. One question, how to make a firmware update? Is there a video available?
I just followed the directions at the Zhiyun-Tech website.
I've heard it doesn't work well with Android? Is this true do you know?
I have heard the the Android app only shoots up to 720p on at least some Android phones but I don’t know as I have an iPhone.
Can it disable the iPhone X lens stabilization?
It could disable ois on the 7+. Not sure on X
Well, here in Europe it's more like $175. In Denmark it's about $200. Buy the way, what size is the tripod thread? Nice review as always, thank you.
Hi Lau, the tap is 1/4-20.
Thank you, then my cheap Camlink monopod should fit.
Soon as I saw Curtis Judd next to the videos title, I knew it was going to be good. This is by far the best video on the Smooth 4. One thing I see in every video but yours however is how bad the Zhiyun app is and that the DJI app is better overall which is saying a lot since the DJI app is not very good. What’s your take on the app Curtis?
Hi Giulio, thanks! I haven’t used the DJI app so I don’t have that as a reference point. The app is ok. I like that it allows manual exposure control. I don’t like that it doesn’t use the image stabilizer of my iPhone 7. I am told they’re adding that “in a future update.” It isn’t perfect but also not the worst I’ve used.
Nice review and nice piece of tech I wish I needed one.
Thanks!
Is there rotation in that gimbal please reply
Yes, it rotates.
Can any help me. After I record a video footage and try to it on my phone it doesn't play. Only audio can be heard
Which phone, which app?
@@curtisjudd I'm using a smooth 4 gimbal with a galaxy j7pro
@@curtisjudd but when I want to reproduce the video I record with the smooth 4 after saving it to the phone it doesn't play. Just audio I can heard
@@curtisjudd using zy play app
Probably best to contact Zhiyun support. Best of luck!
Another awesome video. Thanks for the informative videos.
Thanks Vivek!
Can we use samsung galaxy s10+ with it
Probably best to contact Zhiyun support to confirm. Best wishes!
I just had a quick search of your back catalog. I couldn't find many reviews for action camera gimbal reviews. I found the GVB one but no others.
Hi Stuart, that's correct, I haven't reviewed any other action cam gimbals. Probably best to check channels like MicBergsma for action cam related reviews.
Thanks for the pointer.
Curtis...Thank you for this Zhiyun Smooth 4 info video! You are my go to for any camera, video, lighting and audio. Ordered one yesterday on Amazon Prime...only $100. I will be using a Samsung Galaxy S7 of which they say should be fine. Software app...your thoughts on FilMic Pro vs ZY ZY Play? Thanks again Curtis!
Thanks! I'd go with Filmic Pro.
Great review. Did you find you were missing a joystick found on many other gimbals? I tend to use a joystick to make small adjustments while filming.
+Eli L hi Eli, thanks. I tend not to use the joystick while shooting on most gimbals because the start/stop motion is a bit robotic looking so not something I missed here. If it is something you use a lot, you may miss it.
Wow thanks for sharing, wish one day i able to have one :) have a great day!
Thanks Lara.