Smooth 4 arrived today ready for this wedding 👰 I’ve got to film tomorrow. Glad I got it. Combined with Filmic Pro it hands down beats the Osmo Mobile 3 gimbal.
little heavy duty piece of velcro at the end of the axis and on another end of the actual zhiyun counter balance and it will balance the moment wide perfectly. that lens i think is 79g or something,zhiyun sells a counter balance for $15 or so on amazon that's got a thread you can file off. or keep.
I really wanted to like this gimbal, but there are 2 features that were part of my requirements to purchase. I wanted something that has good active tracking and pano. The other features are battery life, ease of use, and weight. These features it has. The weight was on the heavy side but I thought I can live with it. The smooth 4’s active tracking was very bad, and the pano was very slow.
One thing that can help the "up and down" movement of the image while walking is shooting at 60fps and set playback at 24fps. Looks great! Of course, it will depend on what you're shooting.
Nice to see that the Smooth 4 integrates with Filmic Pro now. I might have to pick one up because the integration and control with Filmic Pro looks amazing (I should have waited). I purchased the Osmo 2 and it really struggles with the iPhone 7+ and Moment lenses even with the counterweight...even more than my Smooth Q. I use the Crane 2 with my DSLR and it really is nice to be able to control camera functions from the handle of the gimbal, but having a gimbal that controls the iPhone in a compact form factor is next level!
old school method of keeping the "up and down" comment under better control is to use some weight. either screw something into the bottom of the gamble, or use a (example: 5Lb wrist weight for exercise). we used to do this when gimbles cost 60 grand. works rather well as a cheap steady cam.
This video is so well made. I love the rhythm & flow of the content & features. As a voice-over artist myself, the VO artist (possibly creator) here is extremely clear and well articulated. Even though you kept reminding us it wasn't a tutorial, it did share a few vital tips. Tks for sharing. SM4 owner here
Thanks for watching and the feedback! We just didn’t want people to mistake this video as an in-depth app tutorial. :) And appreciate the editing & VO compliments! 👍🏻 Always trying to improve.
@@iphoneographers Pleasure. I don't even own an iPhone but ended up watching 4 vids of yours in a row. Well done. Best wishes for your future & current endeavours
I was enjoying using FiLMiC Pro with the Smooth 4 for over a month. Then I hooked up the ZY Play app and used the gimbal once with that app. I have since been unable to connect my FiLMiC Pro to the Smooth 4 gimbal. I have re-downloaded both apps losing all my presets and still cannot connect Filmic Pro to the Smooth 4, even without ZY Play app on my phone.
Yes there’s a problem with the Zhiyun SDK and so it’s not working for everyone right now. Told a fix is in the works though. Heard a temp fix is to manually set your phone clock back to an earlier date.
iPhoneographers Thank you for the reply. I also today encountered a problem with the Filmic Remote for the first time in two months. The record button went read during recording but without my glasses on I didn’t notice the counter was evidently not moving. I lost five scenes of a class video today. Whole day lost. I tested it later and verified that it won’t sync up properly now with the filmic pro app on my iPhone 11. I also had trouble with the focus reticule working if that’s of any help.
I have a smooth q and i think is not neccesary to upgrade to this except you chase the zoom in or out feature. The other just the same but smooth q better bcause never lose bluetooth connection and more compact size with nice carying case.
We like the Smooth Q a lot! Main reason to upgrade to us is the Filmic Pro integration with the gimbal. You can’t control it the same way with the Smooth Q.
Well, nice video and pretty cool app, its too bad you have to buy it on iphone to try it. Yes, the best is put iphone without a case in clamp, with case i felt like it will drop out somehow. And one more thing I found out, when filming in the wind, it sounds so loud so I ordered Boya microphone, and ring with hot shoe to attach it. Thank you for video, I subscribed
iPhoneographers some android phones wont work with Zhiyun app too, they work but you cannnot call it work as the app freezes every minute, when I tried zoom wheel it stopped completely, so I had to restart app and trie agai. All that was with LG G6 phone which I had, now I have iphone and it works flawless
The Ace of Spades really its truth, i tried many good android phones but iphone is better in its speed, camera and design too, as I work in phone repair shop I can confirm that they are good when it comes to screen or battery replacement ;)
Which one should I buy for Android phone - zhiyun smooth 4 or smooth Q2 ? I heard zhiyun app compatibility issues with android so, should I go with zhiyun or other gimbal.. any recommendations ?
Professional presentation! I recently bought the original Smooth Q for a test with my iPhone and found that my landscape video ends up in portrait mode after "saving" to iPhone Photos. Any suggestions on how to prevent this? Also, after "setting the exposure", the exposure changes during shooting according to different lighting conditions. Any idea how to lock the exposure? I hope this is operator error, but I would like to confirm that the ZY app is working properly BEFORE investing in the Smooth 4. Thank you for your feedback and look forward to more excellent presentations related to video technology! glen.
I am not an expert on the ZY play app, I rarely use it except to set up the gimbal. I typically use third-party apps like Filmic Pro, which you can use with a Smooth 4. Sounds like it’s possible that orientation lock is turned on or was on when you were shooting. Locking the exposure usually happens when you press on the reticle and hold it down, otherwise it will shift. The Smooth 4 is a great gimbal, but again, I would recommend using a third-party app. Thanks for watching!
hey! I love the software.The software is superior to all. But the Holem Isteady is smoother. It really is. I can see a slight bounce in movement in your footage.
Guys, could you help me? I've just downloaded Filmic Pro and tried to pair them by going to that gear icon and selected hardware but the problem is, SHIYUN isn't on the display. I just see 3 selections including dgi osmo. What should I do pls..
If I had to choose between the Smooth 4, M2 and Smooth Q2, what are the different features and why would i buy one over another? Please let me know. I will choose one of these three for use with a smartphone and the new GoPro. Thanks! :) Or should I get a DJI Osmo Pocket?
Only get the M2 if you have other type of heavier cameras. If you’re using for smartphones or action cameras only then that wouldn’t be our first choice. Haven’t used the new Smooth Q2 yet. We’re getting one soon though. The others are a tossup. The DJI will hold more weight. Lots of great choices out there for gimbals right now.
I wish there was a behind the scenes video for the unboxing portion of this video. Those angles and transitions were cool ;-) Curious how many cameras you used?
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it. Used two cameras and then in editing reframed & repositioned different shots to make it look like there were more. Shot in 4K and edited in HD so there’s plenty of room in the footage to move it around without degrading it. 👍🏻
I know...of those few video I made it's the part I spent most of the time and enjoy most doing...but not as a viewer...youtube is like fastfood, not a restarant with starters... ;)
We don’t eat fast food. 😃 But sure, totally understand and appreciate your perspective. We do some straight forward videos that get right into it, but we also try to mix it up and have some fun here and there, too... “Infotainment” if you will. So our menu changes depending on the chef. And we do our best to offer an all-you-can-eat buffet. Now we’re hungry for lunch! 😎
This one is pretty nice, but you might like the DJI Osmo Mobile 2 better as it’s probably a little easier to control. We have links to a variety of stuff on our website... www.iphoneographers.tv/apps-gear
Pretty cool. I finally picked up an iphone 11. Do you still like this Zhiyun with filmic pro? Any others out there to compare for filmic pro integration? I’ve done a fair amount with DJI Osmo + and other Osmo’s....and they are too compressed, breaking handles etc. not going to bother fixing them. Maybe go this route for a fun portable shoot anywhere camera?
The Smooth 4 is still solid but payload not great for larger phones. The DJI Osmo Mobile 3 is one to look at too in that price range. The best options are probably the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Zhiyun Crane M2. The newer Smooth Q is nice also.
iPhoneographers Sort of leaning towards a DJI Osmo Mobile 3 for starter.. and then later a Zhiyun Crane or other better gimbal. DJI to look like a tourist and be invisible and easily stash in jacket pocket. Hmmmm. I forget.. did the Osmo Mobile 3 go into flashlight mode for the ultra wide?
smooth-round means easier to slip and loose control also. Does it rely on dedicated vdo shoot app or I can use any gimbal or vdo app ? I hear the Q2 can use any app. ?? Filmic is for vdo shoot app.; or gimbal control ?
Great tutorial. I am learning it right now, and I find that the “menu” button on the Smooth 4 does absolutely nothing in Filmic Pro. What is you experience?
Believe that button lets you exit out of menus or go back. Don’t have the gimbal right now to confirm, but don’t actually use that much. If you haven’t watched the Epic Tutorials video on this they go into more details on the controls... ruclips.net/video/iVA9JA-P-yQ/видео.html. Thanks for watching!
iPhoneographers I’ve watched it several times, but it does not do at least on my Zhiyun 4 anything. I will ask the filmic pro people. Thanks so much. I am loving your tutorials!!
I would really like a smooth 4 now its integrated with filmic pro. The setup would be so much faster than the Crane M i'm using. i'd like to counter balance the ExoLens on it though, which is probably similar weight to the Moment lens - if your able to explore this further i'd be keen to see it!
We’re going to do that for sure! It works with the Moment, just felt a tad bit sluggish. But, we haven’t done much real world shooting with it yet. Our Smooth Q held it fine - so we think the Smooth 4 will be okay, too. Just our initial feeling is a bare-bones setup is probably ideal for it (but that probably applies to most smartphone gimbals).
Does either have BT audio like the FT spg2 ? Does either let you usse your own phone vdo shooting app. ie. not dedicated to locked in . But then the control app can't control all your vdo options on your phone. Give and take vs integrated gimbal to the vdo app. Date/time on the vdo frames is std ?
Good day! The ZHIYUN Smooth 4 is unlike every gimbal in the market. It is outstanding and the best gimbal I have used so far. I have experienced a challenge with overhead shots. I am using a Samsung Note 20 Ultra The phone is placed in the gimbal in landscape mode Remove everything from a table and place an item on the center of the table; let's say an apple. I cannot get the gimbal to rotate (tilt) on the horizontal axis to a position exactly parallel to the surface of the table for an overhead shot of the apple. I cannot I get the gimbal to go from an overhead shot of the apple exactly parallel to the surface of the table to the "front" of the apple; and continuing moving/transitioning to the floor WITHOUT having the camera tilt to "face" the floor. Nor, can I get the gimbal to go from an overhead shot of the apple exactly parallel to the surface of the table to the "front" of the apple; and continuing transitioning to the floor with the camera tilting to "face" the floor. Here is what I am looking for: Video opens with the "front" of the apple Gimbal positions the camera on top of the apple for an overhead shot. The camera must be exactly parallel to the top of the table. Video transitions from the top of the apple to the "front" of the apple. Video continues, uninterrupted, to move below the table while the gimbal has moved the camera exactly perpendicular to the floor. In other words, the camera is NOT facing the floor. To clarify.- for the camera to face the floor, the camera would have to be oriented parallel to the floor. WITHOUT stopping the video, REPEAT the same shot moving the camera from the floor, facing the apple on the table and ending with an overhead shot of the apple. Now, repeat the same shot but have the camera tilt to face the floor when the camera is lowered under the table surface; and have the camera transition from facing the floor when it is moved to face the "front" of the apple before continuing to the overhead shot of the apple. I appreciate the assistance. Thank you! Edwin
Love all your videos and am sold on the Zhiyun 4 but wonder if I can find a right angle lightning cable to 3.5 Mini female or lightning right angle male to female lightning. I want to plug a mike into my phone because sometimes I actually want to use my voice! Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for watching! Have seen right angle Lightning to micro USB for charging, but not 3.5mm. Of course there is the regular adapter that Apple makes it’s not right angle but it will adapt Lightning to 3.5mm.
That’s a semi-subjective call, but would say no. Primarily because this one doesn’t have near the payload capacity. The negative to the Movi is you can’t use the ultra wide lens really at all without a lot of modification. The Movi is probably one of our favorite gimbals besides that part of it. If you want to use every lens you might look at the FeiyuTech G6 Max.
Currently there's a bundle for "Filmix pro Camera Kit" Inside there's Filmic Pro and Filmic Remote. Is it worth/necessary/ a must to get it as a bundle or just Filmic pro is enough
I have the same setup Smooth 4 with iPhone 8 Plus. Did you encounter any wobbly effects due to the phone’s built in optical image stabilization? I can’t disable it on the phone because it’s mechanically builtin. And filmic Pro can only do it by software. I was told to use a magnet to counter the phones OIS. What are your thoughts?
The OIS is hardware based, so you can’t disable it. Using a gimbal though we haven’t experienced many, if any, issues though. We definitely have had problems with it with bumps shooting handheld or even on a tripod if the camera gets hit (even slightly hit). So yeah, it kinda sucks for video. But we just really pay attention to it and avoid circumstances where it could affect things. Haven’t tried the magnet trick, but have heard the new XS phones are much better and almost eliminate the problem. We’re upgrading pretty soon and will he testing this.
Do you know if I can shot with and iPhone X mounted on a DJI Ronin S ? I'm using professionally my iPhone X + moment lenses and my Canon t5i, so I was thinking of buying just one gimbal that I can use sometimes with the canon and swap with the iPhone when needed.
Haven’t used that combo, but can say we used an iPhone 8 Plus on a Zhiyun Crane and it worked great. We put the phone in a Helium Core rig, which we’d recommend to give it weight and more size. Either that or a Beastgrip should work. Link to our gear suggestions page in the description of this video if you need it.
Please help. I wanna buy this gimbal. However I have an iPhone 7 Plus. Does it work for it? And second. do I need to have the filmic pro app in order for this gimbal to work? Thank you so much!
No, you don’t need to buy the FiLMiC Pro app. It’s just nice that it integrates with it. Zhiyun has their own app if you want to use it. The video quality is just not as good. We used an iPhone 8 Plus and it held it no problem so a 7 Plus should work fine.
Ohhhh thank you so much. I love all the work you put in your videos. I am just a beginner. I need to do family videos. I am obsessed trying to learn and can I see that is sooo difficult though 😣☹️ one more thing, what app should be easier for me to editing. Thank you so much!!!!!
The easiest editing app is probably iMovie, but it’s also limited in what it can do. But it’s fine to start with and works on iPhone or iPad. A much better option is LumaFusion, which is quite powerful, but there is a learning curve. One other to consider is KineMaster. With some practice and experience you can get it figured out. Best of luck! :)
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Smooth 4 arrived today ready for this wedding 👰 I’ve got to film tomorrow. Glad I got it. Combined with Filmic Pro it hands down beats the Osmo Mobile 3 gimbal.
I bought this and use it with my Huawei p20 pro and it works really well! Love being able to pull focus!
Thanks for sharing your wonderful video
I have a smooth 4 gimbal
It’s really heavy not comfortable to use
I'm absorbing many videos about my gimbal, or arm as I like to call it. Thanks for creating this!
Starts at 2:04
Np
New KING thank you lol
Thanks for information about the video sir very informative
Good for phone using phone, thanks this important info. Two thumps up for me.
I have the SMooth 4, BEST purchase this year for me. :)
Good deal! We’ve found it to be a very good gimbal as well.
Really like your presentation style, chilled and informative and yes, less is more. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
wow...i really like this video...just give me more info about smooth4...
Thanks for your tips bro
little heavy duty piece of velcro at the end of the axis and on another end of the actual zhiyun counter balance and it will balance the moment wide perfectly. that lens i think is 79g or something,zhiyun sells a counter balance for $15 or so on amazon that's got a thread you can file off. or keep.
I really wanted to like this gimbal, but there are 2 features that were part of my requirements to purchase. I wanted something that has good active tracking and pano. The other features are battery life, ease of use, and weight. These features it has. The weight was on the heavy side but I thought I can live with it. The smooth 4’s active tracking was very bad, and the pano was very slow.
One thing that can help the "up and down" movement of the image while walking is shooting at 60fps and set playback at 24fps. Looks great! Of course, it will depend on what you're shooting.
Yes, great tip! Shooting slow motion definitely smooths out everything. But, like you say depends on what you’re shooting. Thanks!
Nice to see that the Smooth 4 integrates with Filmic Pro now. I might have to pick one up because the integration and control with Filmic Pro looks amazing (I should have waited). I purchased the Osmo 2 and it really struggles with the iPhone 7+ and Moment lenses even with the counterweight...even more than my Smooth Q. I use the Crane 2 with my DSLR and it really is nice to be able to control camera functions from the handle of the gimbal, but having a gimbal that controls the iPhone in a compact form factor is next level!
OrganicFarmer I was actually thinking to buy the Osmo 2 instead of the Smooth 4.. you think the smooth 4 is better ?
Thanks for the well presented information. I'm just getting into this Smartphone connection with film-quality images. It is amazing.
The best overview... Simple yet rich of information...
old school method of keeping the "up and down" comment under better control is to use some weight. either screw something into the bottom of the gamble, or use a (example: 5Lb wrist weight for exercise). we used to do this when gimbles cost 60 grand. works rather well as a cheap steady cam.
This video is so well made. I love the rhythm & flow of the content & features. As a voice-over artist myself, the VO artist (possibly creator) here is extremely clear and well articulated.
Even though you kept reminding us it wasn't a tutorial, it did share a few vital tips. Tks for sharing. SM4 owner here
Thanks for watching and the feedback! We just didn’t want people to mistake this video as an in-depth app tutorial. :) And appreciate the editing & VO compliments! 👍🏻 Always trying to improve.
@@iphoneographers Pleasure. I don't even own an iPhone but ended up watching 4 vids of yours in a row. Well done. Best wishes for your future & current endeavours
Thank you! 👍🏻
I need to watch this!!!
Nice unboxing and review. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this very impormative👍🏻👍🏻
THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL! THANK YOU
Nice...so good...💫💫💫💫
Love this video
Just got my iPhone XS max today and was wondering if this Smooth 4 is compatible with it. Thanks great video!
Awesome! Would like to hear how it works for you.
How does your iPhone XS Max perform with the Smooth 4?
i heard it can't balance the iphone xs Max
I was enjoying using FiLMiC Pro with the Smooth 4 for over a month. Then I hooked up the ZY Play app and used the gimbal once with that app. I have since been unable to connect my FiLMiC Pro to the Smooth 4 gimbal. I have re-downloaded both apps losing all my presets and still cannot connect Filmic Pro to the Smooth 4, even without ZY Play app on my phone.
Yes there’s a problem with the Zhiyun SDK and so it’s not working for everyone right now. Told a fix is in the works though. Heard a temp fix is to manually set your phone clock back to an earlier date.
iPhoneographers Thank you for the reply. I also today encountered a problem with the Filmic Remote for the first time in two months. The record button went read during recording but without my glasses on I didn’t notice the counter was evidently not moving. I lost five scenes of a class video today. Whole day lost. I tested it later and verified that it won’t sync up properly now with the filmic pro app on my iPhone 11. I also had trouble with the focus reticule working if that’s of any help.
good Review
Good Job
I have a smooth q and i think is not neccesary to upgrade to this except you chase the zoom in or out feature. The other just the same but smooth q better bcause never lose bluetooth connection and more compact size with nice carying case.
We like the Smooth Q a lot! Main reason to upgrade to us is the Filmic Pro integration with the gimbal. You can’t control it the same way with the Smooth Q.
Do you have to always run wifi to film on the smoothq , because am on a prepaid phone and alot of time I run out on wifi service
No, you don’t have to do that.
Thanks for share, with that explain I'll buy it right now
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful.
Thank you for clearing up the concept; I appreciate it.
Man, the editing of this video is stellar.
Thank you!
Very good
Thanks for sharing, btw how did you do the 360 rotation with zhiyun smooth 4?
Am here for the intro music :D
Well, nice video and pretty cool app, its too bad you have to buy it on iphone to try it. Yes, the best is put iphone without a case in clamp, with case i felt like it will drop out somehow. And one more thing I found out, when filming in the wind, it sounds so loud so I ordered Boya microphone, and ring with hot shoe to attach it.
Thank you for video, I subscribed
Thanks for watching and subbing! Filmic Pro is available for iOS and Android. Some Android phones won’t work with it though, but it is cross platform.
iPhoneographers some android phones wont work with Zhiyun app too, they work but you cannnot call it work as the app freezes every minute, when I tried zoom wheel it stopped completely, so I had to restart app and trie agai. All that was with LG G6 phone which I had, now I have iphone and it works flawless
Ah ok, good to know. Thanks for the info!
zdravo iPhone still has the best video camera on any smartphone, not a deal at all.
The Ace of Spades really its truth, i tried many good android phones but iphone is better in its speed, camera and design too, as I work in phone repair shop I can confirm that they are good when it comes to screen or battery replacement ;)
Which one should I buy for Android phone - zhiyun smooth 4 or smooth Q2 ? I heard zhiyun app compatibility issues with android so, should I go with zhiyun or other gimbal.. any recommendations ?
This us literally the setup I'm planning on getting and you have a video for me. Do you work for the FBI?
Professional presentation! I recently bought the original Smooth Q for a test with my iPhone and found that my landscape video ends up in portrait mode after "saving" to iPhone Photos. Any suggestions on how to prevent this? Also, after "setting the exposure", the exposure changes during shooting according to different lighting conditions. Any idea how to lock the exposure? I hope this is operator error, but I would like to confirm that the ZY app is working properly BEFORE investing in the Smooth 4. Thank you for your feedback and look forward to more excellent presentations related to video technology! glen.
I am not an expert on the ZY play app, I rarely use it except to set up the gimbal. I typically use third-party apps like Filmic Pro, which you can use with a Smooth 4.
Sounds like it’s possible that orientation lock is turned on or was on when you were shooting. Locking the exposure usually happens when you press on the reticle and hold it down, otherwise it will shift.
The Smooth 4 is a great gimbal, but again, I would recommend using a third-party app. Thanks for watching!
Can I use this for my hero 4 sir? thanks
Haven’t tried it on this, but works well on others like the Smooth Q.
hey!
I love the software.The software is superior to all. But the Holem Isteady is smoother. It really is. I can see a slight bounce in movement in your footage.
There’s definitely some bounce. Was just getting a feel for the gimbal. Haven’t heard of the one you mentioned though. Will look for it.
Good for product
what counter weight you use for Zhiyun smooth 4 in this VDO 7:57
Guys, could you help me? I've just downloaded Filmic Pro and tried to pair them by going to that gear icon and selected hardware but the problem is, SHIYUN isn't on the display. I just see 3 selections including dgi osmo. What should I do pls..
It should say Smooth 4 then you tap that to connect via Bluetooth. Hope you got it figured out!
Good vdo like it
If I had to choose between the Smooth 4, M2 and Smooth Q2, what are the different features and why would i buy one over another? Please let me know. I will choose one of these three for use with a smartphone and the new GoPro. Thanks! :) Or should I get a DJI Osmo Pocket?
Only get the M2 if you have other type of heavier cameras. If you’re using for smartphones or action cameras only then that wouldn’t be our first choice. Haven’t used the new Smooth Q2 yet. We’re getting one soon though. The others are a tossup. The DJI will hold more weight. Lots of great choices out there for gimbals right now.
Great shots! I just find that this is such a long setup. Balancing and all...
I wish there was a behind the scenes video for the unboxing portion of this video. Those angles and transitions were cool ;-) Curious how many cameras you used?
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it. Used two cameras and then in editing reframed & repositioned different shots to make it look like there were more. Shot in 4K and edited in HD so there’s plenty of room in the footage to move it around without degrading it. 👍🏻
Wow, drive safely bro
Suggest a good monopod for this
We’ve had good luck with Manfrotto monopods.
I stay in DJI M2 with Filmic pro so smooth
Do you have to buy the additional remote app for this?
too long intro
That’s our favorite part! 😃 Thanks for watching and your feedback.
I know...of those few video I made it's the part I spent most of the time and enjoy most doing...but not as a viewer...youtube is like fastfood, not a restarant with starters... ;)
We don’t eat fast food. 😃 But sure, totally understand and appreciate your perspective.
We do some straight forward videos that get right into it, but we also try to mix it up and have some fun here and there, too... “Infotainment” if you will. So our menu changes depending on the chef. And we do our best to offer an all-you-can-eat buffet. Now we’re hungry for lunch! 😎
totally agree
It was inadvertently an “unboxing video” as well.
He mentioned like 10%of the epic features.
Best gimbal you can advice for beginner with iPhone 7
This one is pretty nice, but you might like the DJI Osmo Mobile 2 better as it’s probably a little easier to control. We have links to a variety of stuff on our website... www.iphoneographers.tv/apps-gear
How about tracking subjects ???
For anyone who has bought this, how does this hold up? Is it still working great because I’m considering buying this.
Is it compatible with Samsung S9 and Samsung Note 9? Thank you. Nice Video.
They have a free Filmic Evaluator app that will see if your device is compatible. So download to confirm, but believe the S9 is supported.
@@iphoneographers Okay. Thank you.
Pretty cool. I finally picked up an iphone 11. Do you still like this Zhiyun with filmic pro? Any others out there to compare for filmic pro integration? I’ve done a fair amount with DJI Osmo + and other Osmo’s....and they are too compressed, breaking handles etc. not going to bother fixing them. Maybe go this route for a fun portable shoot anywhere camera?
The Smooth 4 is still solid but payload not great for larger phones. The DJI Osmo Mobile 3 is one to look at too in that price range. The best options are probably the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Zhiyun Crane M2. The newer Smooth Q is nice also.
iPhoneographers Sort of leaning towards a DJI Osmo Mobile 3 for starter.. and then later a Zhiyun Crane or other better gimbal. DJI to look like a tourist and be invisible and easily stash in jacket pocket. Hmmmm. I forget.. did the Osmo Mobile 3 go into flashlight mode for the ultra wide?
Nice
smooth-round means easier to slip and loose control also. Does it rely on dedicated vdo shoot app or I can use any gimbal or vdo app ? I hear the Q2 can use any app. ?? Filmic is for vdo shoot app.; or gimbal control ?
Hi. Is the color grading included in FIlmic Pro?
The Cinematography Kit is an in-app purchase.
I LOVED VIDEO! DOES THE APP WORK WITH IPHONE 11 PRO MAX AND SAMSUNG NOTE 10 +?
Thanks! And yes Filmic Pro works on both.
Good
Great tutorial. I am learning it right now, and I find that the “menu” button on the Smooth 4 does absolutely nothing in Filmic Pro. What is you experience?
Believe that button lets you exit out of menus or go back. Don’t have the gimbal right now to confirm, but don’t actually use that much. If you haven’t watched the Epic Tutorials video on this they go into more details on the controls... ruclips.net/video/iVA9JA-P-yQ/видео.html. Thanks for watching!
iPhoneographers I’ve watched it several times, but it does not do at least on my Zhiyun 4 anything. I will ask the filmic pro people. Thanks so much. I am loving your tutorials!!
I would really like a smooth 4 now its integrated with filmic pro. The setup would be so much faster than the Crane M i'm using. i'd like to counter balance the ExoLens on it though, which is probably similar weight to the Moment lens - if your able to explore this further i'd be keen to see it!
We’re going to do that for sure! It works with the Moment, just felt a tad bit sluggish. But, we haven’t done much real world shooting with it yet. Our Smooth Q held it fine - so we think the Smooth 4 will be okay, too. Just our initial feeling is a bare-bones setup is probably ideal for it (but that probably applies to most smartphone gimbals).
Does either have BT audio like the FT spg2 ?
Does either let you usse your own phone vdo shooting app. ie. not dedicated to locked in . But then the control app can't control all your vdo options on your phone. Give and take vs integrated gimbal to the vdo app. Date/time on the vdo frames is std ?
Good day!
The ZHIYUN Smooth 4 is unlike every gimbal in the market. It is outstanding and the best gimbal I have used so far. I have experienced a challenge with overhead shots.
I am using a Samsung Note 20 Ultra
The phone is placed in the gimbal in landscape mode
Remove everything from a table and place an item on the center of the table; let's say an apple.
I cannot get the gimbal to rotate (tilt) on the horizontal axis to a position exactly parallel to the surface of the table for an overhead shot of the apple.
I cannot I get the gimbal to go from an overhead shot of the apple exactly parallel to the surface of the table to the "front" of the apple; and continuing moving/transitioning to the floor WITHOUT having the camera tilt to "face" the floor.
Nor, can I get the gimbal to go from an overhead shot of the apple exactly parallel to the surface of the table to the "front" of the apple; and continuing transitioning to the floor with the camera tilting to "face" the floor.
Here is what I am looking for:
Video opens with the "front" of the apple
Gimbal positions the camera on top of the apple for an overhead shot. The camera must be exactly parallel to the top of the table.
Video transitions from the top of the apple to the "front" of the apple.
Video continues, uninterrupted, to move below the table while the gimbal has moved the camera exactly perpendicular to the floor. In other words, the camera is NOT facing the floor. To clarify.- for the camera to face the floor, the camera would have to be oriented parallel to the floor.
WITHOUT stopping the video, REPEAT the same shot moving the camera from the floor, facing the apple on the table and ending with an overhead shot of the apple.
Now, repeat the same shot but have the camera tilt to face the floor when the camera is lowered under the table surface; and have the camera transition from facing the floor when it is moved to face the "front" of the apple before continuing to the overhead shot of the apple.
I appreciate the assistance.
Thank you!
Edwin
A very important question I hope you can help.. Is Filmic Pro on S9 Plus compatible with Smooth 4? Your answer would be a great help. Thank you
Have found that if FP works on your phone then it will work with the gimbal.
@@iphoneographers thank you. So this means I do not need the ZY Play since it won't capture 4k on S9?
Love all your videos and am sold on the Zhiyun 4 but wonder if I can find a right angle lightning cable to 3.5 Mini female or lightning right angle male to female lightning. I want to plug a mike into my phone because sometimes I actually want to use my voice! Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for watching! Have seen right angle Lightning to micro USB for charging, but not 3.5mm. Of course there is the regular adapter that Apple makes it’s not right angle but it will adapt Lightning to 3.5mm.
Hi! Do you use Filmic Pro stabilisation ?
Yes we do.
Can I use vivo v15 pro with it???
If your phone works with Filmic Pro then yes. You can download the free Filmic Evaluator app and it will tell you if it’s compatible.
Would I still need to use the zhiyun app for the initial setup?
It’s probably best to update the firmware etc using the app.
How did u change layout plz tell
I have an iPhone 11 Pro. Would this be better the the movi free fly
That’s a semi-subjective call, but would say no. Primarily because this one doesn’t have near the payload capacity. The negative to the Movi is you can’t use the ultra wide lens really at all without a lot of modification. The Movi is probably one of our favorite gimbals besides that part of it. If you want to use every lens you might look at the FeiyuTech G6 Max.
Hello can me ask you? Perfect for vloging this without microphone using..
With newer phones that have better microphones it would be OK, otherwise ideally attach a small shotgun mic to the setup.
Esse gimbal tem opção de rodar 180° ou 360°?
I cant use saramonic blink 500 with Iphone 6 plas
When u switch to ultra wide mode the gimbal also will be participate in ur cinema 😂
How did you shot the roll axis 10:15
Can there be a zhiyun apk for kitkat
Hi. Do you have to sign in or something like that?
Is there any way to pan pan this thing manually...
In osmo we have joystick in it...
Yes me also searching for that.😌
Currently there's a bundle for "Filmix pro Camera Kit" Inside there's Filmic Pro and Filmic Remote. Is it worth/necessary/ a must to get it as a bundle or just Filmic pro is enough
If you want to control it with an iPad or another phone it is cool to have, otherwise though you don’t really need it.
I have the same setup Smooth 4 with iPhone 8 Plus. Did you encounter any wobbly effects due to the phone’s built in optical image stabilization? I can’t disable it on the phone because it’s mechanically builtin. And filmic Pro can only do it by software. I was told to use a magnet to counter the phones OIS. What are your thoughts?
The OIS is hardware based, so you can’t disable it. Using a gimbal though we haven’t experienced many, if any, issues though.
We definitely have had problems with it with bumps shooting handheld or even on a tripod if the camera gets hit (even slightly hit). So yeah, it kinda sucks for video. But we just really pay attention to it and avoid circumstances where it could affect things.
Haven’t tried the magnet trick, but have heard the new XS phones are much better and almost eliminate the problem. We’re upgrading pretty soon and will he testing this.
Good review and how much price
Around $100 USD.
Can Filmic Pro control tracking objects/face like the ZY play app?
Not that we know of unless that’s been added recently.
Hey guys, do the filmic pro app can object tracking w the smooth 4 ?
No it can’t.
Do you know if I can shot with and iPhone X mounted on a DJI Ronin S ? I'm using professionally my iPhone X + moment lenses and my Canon t5i, so I was thinking of buying just one gimbal that I can use sometimes with the canon and swap with the iPhone when needed.
Haven’t used that combo, but can say we used an iPhone 8 Plus on a Zhiyun Crane and it worked great. We put the phone in a Helium Core rig, which we’d recommend to give it weight and more size. Either that or a Beastgrip should work. Link to our gear suggestions page in the description of this video if you need it.
I hope we'll have that in the Philippines?
wowwow in the intro
What did you use to edit the test footage?
Adobe Premiere Pro.
Is it compatible for Vivo Y11 users?
WOW I LIKE YOUR CHANNEL MATE!
Thanks for watching!
Great video thanks. Have you guys covered the @dreamgrip rig/lenses?
Thanks! We have not used their gear yet, although we are familiar with it. We’ll look into it. 👍🏻
Is this video also recorded by using iPhone? Or it's mirrorless/DSLR camera?
It was a mix of multiple cameras. iPhone, Canon XC10 and Lumix LX100.
Moza mini mi app can be integrated with filimic pro?
Not currently. Smooth 4 and Osmo Mobile are the only two right now.
This might be a dumb question but how do I put it in selfie mode?
Click the camera icon button on the right side just below the dial.
Please help. I wanna buy this gimbal. However I have an iPhone 7 Plus. Does it work for it? And second. do I need to have the filmic pro app in order for this gimbal to work? Thank you so much!
No, you don’t need to buy the FiLMiC Pro app. It’s just nice that it integrates with it. Zhiyun has their own app if you want to use it. The video quality is just not as good. We used an iPhone 8 Plus and it held it no problem so a 7 Plus should work fine.
Ohhhh thank you so much. I love all the work you put in your videos. I am just a beginner. I need to do family videos. I am obsessed trying to learn and can I see that is sooo difficult though 😣☹️ one more thing, what app should be easier for me to editing. Thank you so much!!!!!
The easiest editing app is probably iMovie, but it’s also limited in what it can do. But it’s fine to start with and works on iPhone or iPad. A much better option is LumaFusion, which is quite powerful, but there is a learning curve. One other to consider is KineMaster. With some practice and experience you can get it figured out. Best of luck! :)
What do you think of Davinchi resolve? You are soooo kind. Thank you for all of your answers. I am gonna give it a try to all of them.