As a sidenote, we're running an add-your-own topic poll over on our facebook group right now, we'll take the top 5 from that and run it here in a few days to pick a winner but if you want throw a topic into the poll or help pick those 5 out, head over to our FB group :) Otherwise see you next Thursday... or maybe sooner. facebook.com/groups/isaacarthur/
A black hole won't work too well for recycling. Orbital junkyards really is the right approach - not worlds or blackholes (gravity wells). Just pack the junk out in the middle of nowhere and retrieve some for reprocessing as required.
I love that the speed limit on causality means that totalitarian, centralized space civilizations are impossible. Space can only be an ecosystem in the future and humans are the equivalent of single celled organisms about to enter a Cambrian explosion.
I fear that this fact would prevent humanity from even exploring extrasolar systems unless forced by necessity, because there wouldn't be any economic incentive to doing so. Unless the human lifespan is extended by several times and then a 20 year journey to Proxima Centauri becomes plausible in terms of cost/reward
Oh man, made me remember watching Tri-Gun anime series. Vash the Stampede's story. Some of the main characters were insurance agent women involved with observing Vash as he traveled and destroyed things and the show involved a world of old ancient technological ruins allover and huge starship wrecks. Do you remember that show? Makes me want to watch it again.
West End Games (WEG) Star Wars RPG. This has been done 30 years ago. Also Wizards of the Coast D20. about 20 years ago.All fun & games till your character get attacked by a space lampry bsilicon bat.
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is tonnes of crazy, long forgotten tech hidden across the galaxy, some with the potential to devour entire star systems for raw materials."
You've turned the idea of world building into universe building. The scope and depth is breathtaking. I listen to these as I go to sleep at night and hope to dream about the ideas so I can try and live them. Amazing channel.
Some dude in 150 years is gonna say the same about being born too soon to not be able to get his entire mind put into a simulation and instead has to use a boring VR Headset that only lets you feel and taste things in game.
2.8K up-thumbs and only 29 down as of now. That's a better ratio than puppies or boobies get. I love this channel, and we're obviously nicer, smarter, and better-looking than the users on other channels.
These last couple weeks your topics keep reminding me of the TV show Red Dwarf. Dave is stranded on a derilect mining ship after being in stasis for 3 million years. The ship AI has gone senile from running way past it's expected run time. His companions are a hologram of his dead bunkmate and a being that evolved from his pregnant cat. They even find a neurotic droid on another derilic ship that kept trying to serve his dead former crew. Good times. 😁
I think the reason WH40K ends up being so surprisingly realistic so often, is because a lot of realistic ideas are actually really damn cool. And WH40K is all about being cool.
@@SnootchieBootchies27 Well it looks like Space Pirates are less squashbucklers in space and more of hackers slowly luring unsuspecting spacefarers into a trap.
17:00 This sounds like a pretty rad premise for a choice-based RPG, especially if it had full 3D movement like the Descent games. Get on it, games industry!
Have watched everyone of the programs. Going to go back, and going to on a binge and rewatch back to back-programs! People would really surprised how influential this series is. Thanks a lot sir! Love this series.
What if the movie plot when as such.. A crew awakes from some suspended sleep, The ruined ship is found and being maintained by robot ai only upto the point of damage. (perhaps capped off) and the crew are all astonished for the better part of the movie, before encountering the "alien" ai 'guards'. A fight ensues and they beat the robots. (plot armour). Discover the nearby planet has 'stuff going on' and go to investigate. Bam, they get arrested for vandalizing a world history ship. The end. The world was settled way before they had arrived there, via faster travel being invented. Some disaster happened ages past and the civilization honored it with maintaining the wreckage.
Universe Building with SFIA > World Building Isaac Arthur flexing his science and reasoning as always. Making the reality of the future truly better than fiction. Great work as always Isaac.
Throwing a random idea out there: What if one of those massive, multi-layered planets with black holes at the center that you mentioned in a previous video, collapsed after the black hole in the middle burnt out and the rest of the structure eventually collapsed after being abandoned, in a setting or universe where civilisation is just too thinly spread out and things are too busy for any official investigations to be launched. So only small teams and random groups with nothing better to do actually check it out. Eventually, when some civilization does look in to rebuilding or harvesting the resources from the project, they find a small civilization has already formed from people living among the collapsed wreckage. I suppose there are problems with this, for example I suppose the atmosphere of the structure would eventually be lost since there wouldn't be a magnetic field, or perhaps the surface is ruined and uninhabitable, but there are caves of hollowed out metal thousands of miles below the surface, which still have air and water left over from before everything collapsed?
Authors don't realize that sci-fi tropes are dwarfed by order of magnitudes by things you can do without new tech. Reality is always better than fiction, and you, Arthur, has always proves by your channel very existence.
Why i love old Sci-Fi from the dawn era. It was Sci-Fi, yes, but everything was rooted in reality, some, so deeply, so well, that you actually see things "predicted" in those Sci-Fi pieces now. I mean, when you read a page and there's 3 cm of "technical notes" at the bottom of the page, explaining what this and that are or how something was based on this or those, you know you're reading good stuff. By contrast, today they write all manner of bs and not only insult you with their lack of intelligence, they spit on you too, assuming you're just as lacking, and Space forbid you'd say something about it, you'll get mobbed by their groupies.
I agree 💯. Reality is much more interesting than fiction. What's possible from a physics and even engineering perspective goes way over the head of most sci fi authors/producers, let alone the general public. I mean the death star is laughable compared to RKMs or a Nicoll Dyson beam. The galactic armadas of sci fi would get annihilated by a run of the mill K2 civilization.
@Jack Bear in mind though that when you upload yourself, you're merely uploading a copy. YOU will continue on separately and eventually die. So yeah, it's definitely a concern for that copy of yourself you created, who essentially started living ("born") that very second and will continue on trying to find purpose in such an existence, but for you, the creator? Not your concern.
As a current archaeology student with a lot of digital preservation interests, it's very very unlikely... Unless you or someone else goes out of their way to back it up. The ability of future people to access the video would still make it very unlikely though- just think about how storage devices from 20+ years ago are difficult to access due to a lack of hardware, and many people don't even understand how to access devices from 40+ years ago
@@pohatunuva3771 Yes, but the tech can now read a HDD platter without a working drive. All you need to do is to be able to scan the binary values on the storage device.. From there is all a matter of decoding. Now Microsoft can store data to a piece of glass... Worry not, given 10 to 80 years they will have a new field called digital archaeology.. Note: each and every fossil found is only one out of a billion, as the rest are now dust.. question: for every lost civilization found , how many have been lost, compared to those found?
Go figure. Space communism hasn't held up very well has it. Space fascism however seems more plausible indeed. Space fascism for the win! For the Future! For the emperor!
@@ongobongo8333 The roman empire was a fascist state. The symbol of fascism is imprinted on the roman flag signifying such. Historians generally agree it was the greatest civilization in human history given it's length, influence of culture and all realms of human endevour. Thus your statement is demonstrably false regarding fascism. In fact it lends to the opposite of your assertion. Given historical track records the communist road is guaranteed death as all communist states have failed with 100% predictability until otherwise occurs.
Favorite level in Homeworld for me was the spaceship graveyard and those weird millions of years old abandoned spaceships. Gives quite a mysterious vibe.
Just wanted to leave a note: love your channel! It is not just fun to listen to and think about but also super useful when fleshing out a story because you have thought these ideas out so thoroughly it helps when i havent thought of some aspect of a world. Thank you!
This is such a cool concept. Reminds me of Stargate SG1 and Atlantis where the storyline most of the time was searching the galaxy for advanced ruins and technology from past civilization
A conquering force, being by definition stronger than any lawfully entitled governance which it may have replaced, is therefore more likely to secure peace and stability for the system. Finders keepers, Fighters Keepers.
Strength in any military sense is always local and temporary. As any guerilla commander in history will tell you. Plus, establishing peace and stability needs vastly more resources than conquering, as any governor over hostile territory ever will tell you.
Peace isn't something that is secured with force. If you are living under threat and oppression how is that peace? Peace is a social state in the absence of force and where people lean towards cooperation (or at least respecting people's space). Conquerors do not provide peace, they destroy it.
@@alexandernorman5337 "security" can be given by force but violence doesn't require physical harm. Disallowing you from work and letting you starve is just as bad as throwing you into the badlands.
Alexander Norman: peace too is local and temporary.... or is Peace just is a state of mind? In space there is no serene peace as everything is trying to kill you.
Found this channel last night and I have 197 more videos to watch. Fantastic topics and amazing digression at interesting junctures. I wish this channel exponential success!
Raptortastic I found it about 4 years ago and I still go back and watch or just listen to older episodes. Some of them many times. Also welcome to the channel it’s nice to see like minded people conversing these things.
Gateway by Frederick Pohl really said it all. After scouring the libraries for the classic books on science fiction, this contribution to the genre was a late discovery like no other.
Isaac Arthur I always wondered why there was no ads on new videos but I get them on the rewatch of older videos.I just assumed I didn’t notice it in the past and you had no ads because of other support.
Sir, I listen to your programs and realize how little I know. It is humbling to have lived 68 years and and feel like a first grader. Unlike several of our “fearless leaders “ I am willing to learn. I look forward to each new episode and know it will be on a topic I hadn’t even considered. There is so much to learn and so little time to investigate. I thank you for your efforts. Peace
I just realized when I read informational text it's in Isaac's voice.... Damn good job Isaac, you've really gotten better at speaking and tbh I quite like the way your voice sounds, it's unique and you've made it sound so much more informational since episode 1.
I love the idea of Megastructures and my favourite manga artist is Tsutomu Nihei he wrote Blame and Biomega and Knights of Sidonia ,Digimortal and more and all have huge Megastructures . Blame is set in a Megastructure that was built around earth and eventually incorporated the moon and beyond ! It’s largely abandoned but there is people and cyborgs ,silicone life and different forms of AI :) My mind gets lost wandering the structure with the main protagonist Killy a human (synthetic ) Love your videos thank you !
Angkor is an ancient city on a scale rivaling, or even surpassing Rome, that was virtually uninhabited and absorbed by the jungle in Cambodia for centuries, unknown to all but the monks that lived there. That was on our little earth in the most heavily populated region. You’d be amazed at what can be lost and found again, I imagine in the future with the whole solar system being gone to all number of civilizations, we will eventually rediscover similar wonders.
1:45 "... subject to many rounds of ravaging, repair, reuse, or robbery..... " and Rhotacism? Well done! At some point Isaac, you get to just declare yourself cured. It's dead, or so nearly there's no caring about the difference. There's no need to spend time taunting it! :-)
Interplanetary archeologists?! Sounds like a great hard sci-fi novel idea! Your videos always make me want to write something sci-fi-ey, and that's just one of the reasons why I love them!
I never would have thought it possible that a seemingly mundane subject like this one would turn out to be so vast and filled with possibilities that it could challenge or exceed the greatest imaginations. Never before has there been more truth in the expression, "one man's trash is another nan's treasure." Thank you Isaac! Once again you have exceeded my wildest dreams of the future and inspired me to dream bigger.
Issac Arthur has some of the most interesting videos, the breath of variety of topics and in depth knowledge you have is astounding. I watch your videos every night to fall asleep. What a great channel.
This is really relevant video considering InsideBBI, A new studio with developers from the classic Homeworld series of rts games are now planning a big release at PAX in 8 hours from now, 30th of August, in celebration of the 20th Homeworld anniversary. In the Homeword series derelicts played an important part in the games lore and and active part in the gameplay.
@@TS-jm7jm InsideBBI was founded in 2007, since at that time THQ owned the rights to homeworld, it was then sold to Gearbox software in 2013, during that time InsideBBI who are just a bunch of the original homeworld devs from Relic Entertainment were also developing a land based rts game called "Hardware: Shipbreakers"they even had the exact same font as homeworld it was so dead obvious they wanted to develop homeworld again, thus gearbox allowed them and funded them to turn their new project into the now Homeworld prequel game "HomeWorld: Deserts of Kharak" Which takes place 100 years before the events of HomeWorld 1 on Kharak, during the time when the Kuushans found the guidestone in the ancient derelict khar Toba. It's now been 4 years today since Black Bird Interactive (InsideBBI) devs have made HomeWorld: Deserts of Kharak and they've also remastered the original homeworld and homeworld 2 titles since then, now there is a new announcement literally 7 hours from now and it may or may not be HomeWorld 3!
Oh, no, we'd need Pixar levels of staff and budget to knock out 30 minutes of unique graphics for each episode, we re-use a lot of our cusotm animations and make extensive use of stock
There's usually a few new animations per episode, specific to that topic, but you'll see the same graphics, especially older ones, getting used, sometimes, a _lot._
Since the animations are stock and often reused, I'm now able to listen the episodes as if it was a podcast. Like when watching John Michael Godier's channel
@@isaacarthurSFIA Do you commission scenes? Is there money in making this futuristic content or is the work done free of charge? Id love to make some of this stuff, just curious if it pays.
I have always enjoyed your channel. Who does all your GC design work? They do such a great job. The images are always very eye catching and help to let my imaginative mind happy. Very informative too. Great job 👍
I've been trying to write a pen and paper RPG about xenoarchaeology and this video has given me more ideas for how to do it than a full year of looking into actual archaeological studies. Thank you, Isaac, sir!
Easy workarounds for that. Just leave with a robust genetic database and splice in some variation into your children. Of course, you can't have kids completely naturally that way.
@@alexandernorman5337 How is that easy? Also, it depends on having such a database intact. A generation ship would have left with a crew large enough to maintain a viable population so the "skeleton crew" would imply some kind of disaster that killed most of the population. Such a disaster could have damaged your database as well.
It's easy because we are talking about a civilization that has the technical capabilities to reach for the stars. We have CRISPR (a basic gene splicing technology) right now, and we are nowhere close to being able to build a starship. So a future starfaring humanity will have gene editing capability twenty times as advanced or so. Sure, the database has to be kept intact (and so you should have backups) but your engines, life support, and hull has to be kept intact too! You are never going to get around that problem.
@Ethan Steel Removing genetic defects is also not easy. As to the social problem, well, in this case everyone would be inbred, so it would be a lot less of a stigma.
This episode was ESPECIALLY fun. It made me think of how great it would be to have a story like Robert E. Howard's "Red Nails" on a giant space hulk - or, well, pretty much the plotline of the game Alien Isolation, I suppose.
I'd like to read a sci-fi thriller about a space derelict, filled with squatters, being dumped into the sun, or otherwise disposed of, by an interplanetary corporation whose officers _pretend_ not to be aware of the indigent inhabitants.
We generally know where shit is. Like the Titanic is in the Atlantic Ocean. Relative to the size of the solar system I think I hit that location right about on the head.
"Trash" planets might actually be an excellent way to seed life on a rocky planet with liquid water like Earth was in her early yrs. Send everything down except recyclables of course and start a giant compost on the surface to acquire nice rich soil and if there's enuf oxygen in the atmosphere, plant life can begin.
As always great vid, you bring up stuff rarely handled even in good sci-fi and creates food for thought when writing even short pieces, handling some of the mundane issues as a story it's self. I've been sharing the ch w friends.
These are great videos Isaac; with a lot of work put into them, and all very informative. Is there a way to get digital or hard-copy transcripts for some of these, to use as a reference guide source for my own sci-fi writing projects? You seem to touch on many if not all the related areas I'm writing about. In either case, thanks for these, and I'll keep watching!
I can just imagine SFIA's scripts being printed and bound into a series of books, Idealy with lots of relevant imagery for added effect, would definitely buy!
I might stitch together and expand on some related episodes to make a book at some point, but video is kinda my prefered format, I feel like writing a book would be one of those 'just to do it' things, not sure that's a good motivation. As to transcripts, you can click the "..." button under the player and download them from any given episode. They'll be in plain text but that's also how I write them anyway
one favorite subject of conspiratists such as @Brien Foerster is to think that some cataclysmic event occurred when it is simply the work of ancestors repurposing the temples of ancient defunkt gods
ok so i always love listening /watching your stuff keep up the good work :) .. Today though i have one big thought in mind , you use "asume" a few times AND who says any aliens have any clue about Fermi and his paradox. For some reason this is bugging me today and i had to comment.
@tk maou So go in with heavy weapons and bio-containment suits and take decontamination dammed seriously and when necessary chop it into very little pieces for recycling.
Isaac Arthur No rush my man. Keep doing what you're doing and we will be happy. There is a great community here and we all appreciate the work that goes into these.
Don't you hear NASA catch first one, it's a woman and she is lesbian , they cannot hang it it's no gravity on the ISS(ok can use centrifugal force), but this will be extreme only hacking ex wife banks acont .
If you had delayed this video for 2 weeks it would have been in time with the release of Borderlands 3. The overarching main plot point of the Borderlands series is finding and opening Vaults of an ancient alien civilization whose ruins when first discovered caused a huge paradigm shift in human technology - though they tend to hold eldritch abominations, weapons of mass destruction or something valuable enough to include a guardian.
To me, refuse planets don't make sense. If you're capable of dumping trash onto a planet, you're capable of dropping it into a star or toward the outside of the galaxy.
Well, to be fair, its a heck of a lot easier to reclaim junk off a planet or moon if you can later use that matter than if you dump it into a star or firing it off into the intergalactic void.
Anyone that is into TTRPGs, there's a game called Numenera where you're travelling through a world that has loads of tech left over from previous dead civilizations. The garbage they left behind is called "numenera".
Sometime I wish 40k was a bit more scientifically realistic, because the idea of a group of Astartes boarding a habitat that had its systems corrupted by choas (and now all its systems kills anything that litters), and is now dead set on exterminating a local imperium habitat because it dared to launch some bits of trash at it 200 hundred years ago (which the Astartes to now stop said extermination) sounds amazing.
Stugon Monday the GW writers are too many and too short sighted on the theme for such mini-stories. They explode the lynchpin planet of the imperium in the blink of an eye, pull Primaris marines out of the hidden cavity of the universes waste outlet for no good reason. Yet hand them an engaging localised incident that could expand the setting a bit and they run away screaming as if a Slanesh spawn just took their trousers off.
I imagine an expedition abroad some derelict ship though would probably look more like sending in some drones to kill everything and then some engineer walks in wearing a nice suit than what you see in Space Hulk. Killing all the nasties in an old abandoned structure would probably be more like killing bacteria with a UV lamp than anything else. Heck that might even be how you do it, just blast the structure with a ton of radiation to kill everything inside and then wait a few hundred years for it to get safe (you probably have that much time).
I loved the high city setting of the game Project Eden, exploring the long since abandoned depths which actually contained some vicious mutant animals!
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Just sind the trash to a black hole for recycling
A black hole won't work too well for recycling. Orbital junkyards really is the right approach - not worlds or blackholes (gravity wells). Just pack the junk out in the middle of nowhere and retrieve some for reprocessing as required.
Nice Video I do you think we still have crime syndicate or mafia organization that control planets?
Topic: Detailing the methodology by which the digital information in the database of Recorded Mankind is converted back into human beings.
:) can you please do a video on warhammer 40k, I feel it's the best scifi franchise in terms of scale
I love that the speed limit on causality means that totalitarian, centralized space civilizations are impossible. Space can only be an ecosystem in the future and humans are the equivalent of single celled organisms about to enter a Cambrian explosion.
Heh only if the speed limit can't be broken
Imperium of man: "hold my corpsestarch"
No communist civilization 👌👌👌
There can be totalitarian ones but only in a star system. There could also be feudal set ups too
I fear that this fact would prevent humanity from even exploring extrasolar systems unless forced by necessity, because there wouldn't be any economic incentive to doing so. Unless the human lifespan is extended by several times and then a 20 year journey to Proxima Centauri becomes plausible in terms of cost/reward
Danger! Adventure! Treasure!
Become an insurance adjuster today!
Oh man, made me remember watching Tri-Gun anime series. Vash the Stampede's story. Some of the main characters were insurance agent women involved with observing Vash as he traveled and destroyed things and the show involved a world of old ancient technological ruins allover and huge starship wrecks.
Do you remember that show? Makes me want to watch it again.
@@d.aardent9382 yeah, I only got to watch a couple of episodes, but I really want to watch it from the beginning.
@@marsbase3729 search project free tv on google. Id b surprised if its not on that. They go back to the 60s
This episode is begging to be a roleplaying setting - dungeon-crawling in the sweaty necropolis :D
West End Games (WEG) Star Wars RPG. This has been done 30 years ago.
Also Wizards of the Coast D20. about 20 years ago.All fun & games till your character get attacked by a space lampry bsilicon bat.
40k has necromunda , cp 2020 and interface zero , judge dredd and gamma world works too
Hulks & Horrors - www.drivethrurpg.com/product/111781/Hulks-and-Horrors--Basic-Black-Edition
@[INCARNATION OF GIANT ANU] uhm...what?
@ERASING YOUR MEMORY!!! take your meds
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is tonnes of crazy, long forgotten tech hidden across the galaxy, some with the potential to devour entire star systems for raw materials."
You've turned the idea of world building into universe building. The scope and depth is breathtaking. I listen to these as I go to sleep at night and hope to dream about the ideas so I can try and live them. Amazing channel.
I too am lulled to sleep by the dreams of megastructures
Yes, dreaming about scavenging a dead mega structure as it's being put in place to be nuked into oblivion definitely sounds like fun.
Randy Kalff I might be misconstruing your comment as sarcasm. But I think that would be awesome in the literal sense.
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You weren't misconstruing a thing.
@@RandyKalff Some one needs to make a computer game out of it. This legit sounds awesome.
Exploring extremely ancient ruins and derelict O'Neill cylinders. Way to make a guy feel like crap for being born too soon :-)
Maybe you were not
MANUXAL UNX probably was.
But if he has access to the internet, he’s probably nothing to complain about « when » he is born ^^
Just play Eve online man, it's got you covered.
Some dude in 150 years is gonna say the same about being born too soon to not be able to get his entire mind put into a simulation and instead has to use a boring VR Headset that only lets you feel and taste things in game.
Congratulations im advance for reaching *400.000 subscribers!*
400,016 as of now
2.8K up-thumbs and only 29 down as of now. That's a better ratio than puppies or boobies get. I love this channel, and we're obviously nicer, smarter, and better-looking than the users on other channels.
Awesome! Thanks I knew we were getting lcose but didn't notice we'd ticked over
@@isaacarthurSFIA Congrats!
@@isaacarthurSFIA Congratulations and HUGE thanks.
These last couple weeks your topics keep reminding me of the TV show Red Dwarf. Dave is stranded on a derilect mining ship after being in stasis for 3 million years. The ship AI has gone senile from running way past it's expected run time. His companions are a hologram of his dead bunkmate and a being that evolved from his pregnant cat. They even find a neurotic droid on another derilic ship that kept trying to serve his dead former crew.
Good times. 😁
I think the reason WH40K ends up being so surprisingly realistic so often, is because a lot of realistic ideas are actually really damn cool. And WH40K is all about being cool.
Rule of cool is pretty cool lmao
Ooh, a future episode about Space Pirates? Looking forward to that one!
Spoiler alert; it will mostly be about how it won't be all that viable because of the logistics of boarding while in transit.
@@SnootchieBootchies27 Well it looks like Space Pirates are less squashbucklers in space and more of hackers slowly luring unsuspecting spacefarers into a trap.
17:00
This sounds like a pretty rad premise for a choice-based RPG, especially if it had full 3D movement like the Descent games. Get on it, games industry!
I’d Pay For That
Have watched everyone of the programs. Going to go back, and going to on a binge and rewatch back to back-programs! People would really surprised how influential this series is. Thanks a lot sir! Love this series.
What if the movie plot when as such..
A crew awakes from some suspended sleep,
The ruined ship is found and being maintained by robot ai only upto the point of damage. (perhaps capped off) and the crew are all astonished for the better part of the movie, before encountering the "alien" ai 'guards'. A fight ensues and they beat the robots. (plot armour). Discover the nearby planet has 'stuff going on' and go to investigate. Bam, they get arrested for vandalizing a world history ship.
The end.
The world was settled way before they had arrived there, via faster travel being invented. Some disaster happened ages past and the civilization honored it with maintaining the wreckage.
Universe Building with SFIA > World Building
Isaac Arthur flexing his science and reasoning as always. Making the reality of the future truly better than fiction.
Great work as always Isaac.
Throwing a random idea out there: What if one of those massive, multi-layered planets with black holes at the center that you mentioned in a previous video, collapsed after the black hole in the middle burnt out and the rest of the structure eventually collapsed after being abandoned, in a setting or universe where civilisation is just too thinly spread out and things are too busy for any official investigations to be launched. So only small teams and random groups with nothing better to do actually check it out. Eventually, when some civilization does look in to rebuilding or harvesting the resources from the project, they find a small civilization has already formed from people living among the collapsed wreckage.
I suppose there are problems with this, for example I suppose the atmosphere of the structure would eventually be lost since there wouldn't be a magnetic field, or perhaps the surface is ruined and uninhabitable, but there are caves of hollowed out metal thousands of miles below the surface, which still have air and water left over from before everything collapsed?
Authors don't realize that sci-fi tropes are dwarfed by order of magnitudes by things you can do without new tech.
Reality is always better than fiction, and you, Arthur, has always proves by your channel very existence.
Why i love old Sci-Fi from the dawn era. It was Sci-Fi, yes, but everything was rooted in reality, some, so deeply, so well, that you actually see things "predicted" in those Sci-Fi pieces now. I mean, when you read a page and there's 3 cm of "technical notes" at the bottom of the page, explaining what this and that are or how something was based on this or those, you know you're reading good stuff.
By contrast, today they write all manner of bs and not only insult you with their lack of intelligence, they spit on you too, assuming you're just as lacking, and Space forbid you'd say something about it, you'll get mobbed by their groupies.
@@aserta read a book. Mass sci-fi is meant to be digestible to dumb people too, hence the ridiculousness.
@@carlosandleon Indeed. Making 'Hard' sci-fi that is digestible to the layman is quite challenging.
I agree 💯. Reality is much more interesting than fiction. What's possible from a physics and even engineering perspective goes way over the head of most sci fi authors/producers, let alone the general public. I mean the death star is laughable compared to RKMs or a Nicoll Dyson beam. The galactic armadas of sci fi would get annihilated by a run of the mill K2 civilization.
@Jack Bear in mind though that when you upload yourself, you're merely uploading a copy. YOU will continue on separately and eventually die. So yeah, it's definitely a concern for that copy of yourself you created, who essentially started living ("born") that very second and will continue on trying to find purpose in such an existence, but for you, the creator? Not your concern.
Hmm.. Could some digital archeologist find this video a thousand years from now?.. I wonder.
Digital archaeology could be a whole video in its own right.
@@Roxor128 Yeps!
As a current archaeology student with a lot of digital preservation interests, it's very very unlikely... Unless you or someone else goes out of their way to back it up. The ability of future people to access the video would still make it very unlikely though- just think about how storage devices from 20+ years ago are difficult to access due to a lack of hardware, and many people don't even understand how to access devices from 40+ years ago
@@pohatunuva3771 Yes, but the tech can now read a HDD platter without a working drive. All you need to do is to be able to scan the binary values on the storage device.. From there is all a matter of decoding.
Now Microsoft can store data to a piece of glass...
Worry not, given 10 to 80 years they will have a new field called digital archaeology..
Note: each and every fossil found is only one out of a billion, as the rest are now dust..
question: for every lost civilization found , how many have been lost, compared to those found?
We live in a world where 40k is more realistic than star trek
This. 10 trillion trillion percent this.
Go figure. Space communism hasn't held up very well has it.
Space fascism however seems more plausible indeed.
Space fascism for the win! For the Future! For the emperor!
@@Eternalentropy face fascism is guaranteed extinction. Communism is what would work
@@ongobongo8333 alright present one (1) example of a functioning communist society.
@@ongobongo8333 The roman empire was a fascist state. The symbol of fascism is imprinted on the roman flag signifying such. Historians generally agree it was the greatest civilization in human history given it's length, influence of culture and all realms of human endevour.
Thus your statement is demonstrably false regarding fascism. In fact it lends to the opposite of your assertion.
Given historical track records the communist road is guaranteed death as all communist states have failed with 100% predictability until otherwise occurs.
Isaac Arthur seriously needs to be considered for an Emmy.. love these episodes..
Favorite level in Homeworld for me was the spaceship graveyard and those weird millions of years old abandoned spaceships. Gives quite a mysterious vibe.
"You can never use more power than you can get rid of as heat"
Isaac Arthur
Just wanted to leave a note: love your channel! It is not just fun to listen to and think about but also super useful when fleshing out a story because you have thought these ideas out so thoroughly it helps when i havent thought of some aspect of a world. Thank you!
This is such a cool concept. Reminds me of Stargate SG1 and Atlantis where the storyline most of the time was searching the galaxy for advanced ruins and technology from past civilization
A conquering force, being by definition stronger than any lawfully entitled governance which it may have replaced, is therefore more likely to secure peace and stability for the system.
Finders keepers, Fighters Keepers.
Strength in any military sense is always local and temporary. As any guerilla commander in history will tell you. Plus, establishing peace and stability needs vastly more resources than conquering, as any governor over hostile territory ever will tell you.
@@stefanb6539 Exactly what he said.
Peace isn't something that is secured with force. If you are living under threat and oppression how is that peace? Peace is a social state in the absence of force and where people lean towards cooperation (or at least respecting people's space). Conquerors do not provide peace, they destroy it.
@@alexandernorman5337 "security" can be given by force but violence doesn't require physical harm. Disallowing you from work and letting you starve is just as bad as throwing you into the badlands.
Alexander Norman: peace too is local and temporary.... or is Peace just is a state of mind? In space there is no serene peace as everything is trying to kill you.
Found this channel last night and I have 197 more videos to watch. Fantastic topics and amazing digression at interesting junctures. I wish this channel exponential success!
Yeah, I did the binge upon finding it as well.
Raptortastic I found it about 4 years ago and I still go back and watch or just listen to older episodes. Some of them many times. Also welcome to the channel it’s nice to see like minded people conversing these things.
Gateway by Frederick Pohl really said it all. After scouring the libraries for the classic books on science fiction, this contribution to the genre was a late discovery like no other.
You've no idea how I'd love to live on an abandoned derelict/space junk world.
Another great vid, thanks IA!
I wouldn't mind if you put ads in to support you more. No ads is awesome but I wouldn't mind at all cause the time and heart you put in each video.
Thanks :) Though I actually do put ads on most of the videos, just not till they've been out for a while and only the skippable kind.
@@isaacarthurSFIA I never notice cause it is like a ritual to me to watch them right away when they come out
@@isaacarthurSFIA Ditto, I use an ad blocker, but your channel I'll whitelist as long as you are more than 70% content or better
Isaac Arthur I always wondered why there was no ads on new videos but I get them on the rewatch of older videos.I just assumed I didn’t notice it in the past and you had no ads because of other support.
Sir, I listen to your programs and realize how little I know. It is humbling to have lived 68 years and and feel like a first grader. Unlike several of our “fearless leaders “ I am willing to learn. I look forward to each new episode and know it will be on a topic I hadn’t even considered. There is so much to learn and so little time to investigate. I thank you for your efforts. Peace
I just realized when I read informational text it's in Isaac's voice.... Damn good job Isaac, you've really gotten better at speaking and tbh I quite like the way your voice sounds, it's unique and you've made it sound so much more informational since episode 1.
Did someone say space hulks?
A big green angry ship?
I love the idea of Megastructures and my favourite manga artist is Tsutomu Nihei he wrote Blame and Biomega and Knights of Sidonia ,Digimortal and more and all have huge Megastructures . Blame is set in a Megastructure that was built around earth and eventually incorporated the moon and beyond ! It’s largely abandoned but there is people and cyborgs ,silicone life and different forms of AI :)
My mind gets lost wandering the structure with the main protagonist Killy a human (synthetic )
Love your videos thank you !
Angkor is an ancient city on a scale rivaling, or even surpassing Rome, that was virtually uninhabited and absorbed by the jungle in Cambodia for centuries, unknown to all but the monks that lived there. That was on our little earth in the most heavily populated region. You’d be amazed at what can be lost and found again, I imagine in the future with the whole solar system being gone to all number of civilizations, we will eventually rediscover similar wonders.
14:51 If Khorne approves this video, well... :^)
1:45 "... subject to many rounds of ravaging, repair, reuse, or robbery..... " and Rhotacism? Well done! At some point Isaac, you get to just declare yourself cured. It's dead, or so nearly there's no caring about the difference. There's no need to spend time taunting it! :-)
Interplanetary archeologists?! Sounds like a great hard sci-fi novel idea! Your videos always make me want to write something sci-fi-ey, and that's just one of the reasons why I love them!
How is that you and your team are continually getting better when your content has already been amazing for years?!?!?!? I love ArThursdays!!!
I never would have thought it possible that a seemingly mundane subject like this one would turn out to be so vast and filled with possibilities that it could challenge or exceed the greatest imaginations. Never before has there been more truth in the expression, "one man's trash is another nan's treasure." Thank you Isaac! Once again you have exceeded my wildest dreams of the future and inspired me to dream bigger.
This is the best channel on all of RUclips. It’s a true masterpiece.
Great graphics! It was a fun visual journey.
Issac Arthur has some of the most interesting videos, the breath of variety of topics and in depth knowledge you have is astounding. I watch your videos every night to fall asleep. What a great channel.
There is only one way to explore a space hulk. In full terminator armor and a flamer
Gotta have the flamer...just in case you encounter xenomorphs.
Brother!, get the flamer!, *THE HEAVY FLAMER*
The pulse rifle will do in a pinch.
Send the bots first. If they don't kill it..........
Nuke it from orbit, it's the only safe thing to do.
OMG the dream I had while this video was playing in the background you would not believe!
I, for one, eagerly await our future Adeptus Mechanicus overlords.
WOW! This is one of your greatest works. Ive almost listened to all of them This one is by far my favorite. Yoou need to write a book
This is really relevant video considering InsideBBI, A new studio with developers from the classic Homeworld series of rts games are now planning a big release at PAX in 8 hours from now, 30th of August, in celebration of the 20th Homeworld anniversary. In the Homeword series derelicts played an important part in the games lore and and active part in the gameplay.
Do you have more detail ?, havent played HW in awhile.
@@TS-jm7jm InsideBBI was founded in 2007, since at that time THQ owned the rights to homeworld, it was then sold to Gearbox software in 2013, during that time InsideBBI who are just a bunch of the original homeworld devs from Relic Entertainment were also developing a land based rts game called "Hardware: Shipbreakers"they even had the exact same font as homeworld it was so dead obvious they wanted to develop homeworld again, thus gearbox allowed them and funded them to turn their new project into the now Homeworld prequel game "HomeWorld: Deserts of Kharak" Which takes place 100 years before the events of HomeWorld 1 on Kharak, during the time when the Kuushans found the guidestone in the ancient derelict khar Toba.
It's now been 4 years today since Black Bird Interactive (InsideBBI) devs have made HomeWorld: Deserts of Kharak and they've also remastered the original homeworld and homeworld 2 titles since then, now there is a new announcement literally 7 hours from now and it may or may not be HomeWorld 3!
@@TCBYEAHCUZ that sounds pretty cool, thanks for the info.
Space Hulk Deathwing: Insurance Adjuster DLC.
I never thought I would ever look forward to Thursdays!
Awesome way to start work
Podcast night,... I'll be listening to this later in the evening,... thanks again, Isaac.
Insurance Investigators! :P
The best totally new forward thinking, scifi RPG adventurer friendly ideas! :D
Great video pal
The CGI on your channel is superb considering the frequency of your uploads. Are all the animations custom created for each broadcast?
Oh, no, we'd need Pixar levels of staff and budget to knock out 30 minutes of unique graphics for each episode, we re-use a lot of our cusotm animations and make extensive use of stock
There's usually a few new animations per episode, specific to that topic, but you'll see the same graphics, especially older ones, getting used, sometimes, a _lot._
Since the animations are stock and often reused, I'm now able to listen the episodes as if it was a podcast. Like when watching John Michael Godier's channel
@@isaacarthurSFIA Do you commission scenes? Is there money in making this futuristic content or is the work done free of charge? Id love to make some of this stuff, just curious if it pays.
I have always enjoyed your channel. Who does all your GC design work? They do such a great job. The images are always very eye catching and help to let my imaginative mind happy. Very informative too. Great job 👍
I've been trying to write a pen and paper RPG about xenoarchaeology and this video has given me more ideas for how to do it than a full year of looking into actual archaeological studies.
Thank you, Isaac, sir!
Can't wait to see it, do you have a pall park, for when I may?
@@singularitysquaredllc.895 I wish, I'll admit to be horrible with procrastination and have only managed to get bits and pieces done every so often.
What a great way to start the ARTHURSDAY!
These illustrations are great!!!
Happy Arthursday
14:30 A "skeleton crew" on a generation ship may also be badly inbred. A science fiction version of "The Hills Have Eyes."
Easy workarounds for that. Just leave with a robust genetic database and splice in some variation into your children. Of course, you can't have kids completely naturally that way.
@@alexandernorman5337 How is that easy? Also, it depends on having such a database intact.
A generation ship would have left with a crew large enough to maintain a viable population so the "skeleton crew" would imply some kind of disaster that killed most of the population. Such a disaster could have damaged your database as well.
It's easy because we are talking about a civilization that has the technical capabilities to reach for the stars. We have CRISPR (a basic gene splicing technology) right now, and we are nowhere close to being able to build a starship. So a future starfaring humanity will have gene editing capability twenty times as advanced or so. Sure, the database has to be kept intact (and so you should have backups) but your engines, life support, and hull has to be kept intact too! You are never going to get around that problem.
Harvesting road kill from the interstellar highway?
@Ethan Steel Removing genetic defects is also not easy. As to the social problem, well, in this case everyone would be inbred, so it would be a lot less of a stigma.
This episode was ESPECIALLY fun. It made me think of how great it would be to have a story like Robert E. Howard's "Red Nails" on a giant space hulk - or, well, pretty much the plotline of the game Alien Isolation, I suppose.
In India, there are communities that work on recycling all kinds of trash.
They would be right at home in these space junkyards.
Thank you Isaac, for another great video.
I'd like to read a sci-fi thriller about a space derelict, filled with squatters, being dumped into the sun, or otherwise disposed of, by an interplanetary corporation whose officers _pretend_ not to be aware of the indigent inhabitants.
Thank you for these videos Isaac! It really helps me when I need to consider things for my stories!
Nothing finer then my coffee and Isaac Arthur on this Thursday.
You just made my morning a bit better. Many thanks.
What a treat to listen to someone with a high-functioning brain.
" Its not piracy , its active salvage " - The Great Captain Shack
I really look foward to your videos. Thank you for another great video!
Awesome video!
Here’s the great thing about bank holidays. Before you realise, it’s already Arthursday. :)
counter point to the stuff about how we know where all the sunken ships etc are: flight 370
We generally know where shit is. Like the Titanic is in the Atlantic Ocean. Relative to the size of the solar system I think I hit that location right about on the head.
"Trash" planets might actually be an excellent way to seed life on a rocky planet with liquid water like Earth was in her early yrs. Send everything down except recyclables of course and start a giant compost on the surface to acquire nice rich soil and if there's enuf oxygen in the atmosphere, plant life can begin.
Biomass is recyclable.
As always great vid, you bring up stuff rarely handled even in good sci-fi and creates food for thought when writing even short pieces, handling some of the mundane issues as a story it's self. I've been sharing the ch w friends.
These are great videos Isaac; with a lot of work put into them, and all very informative. Is there a way to get digital or hard-copy transcripts for some of these, to use as a reference guide source for my own sci-fi writing projects? You seem to touch on many if not all the related areas I'm writing about. In either case, thanks for these, and I'll keep watching!
I can just imagine SFIA's scripts being printed and bound into a series of books, Idealy with lots of relevant imagery for added effect, would definitely buy!
I might stitch together and expand on some related episodes to make a book at some point, but video is kinda my prefered format, I feel like writing a book would be one of those 'just to do it' things, not sure that's a good motivation. As to transcripts, you can click the "..." button under the player and download them from any given episode. They'll be in plain text but that's also how I write them anyway
one favorite subject of conspiratists such as @Brien Foerster is to think that some cataclysmic event occurred when it is simply the work of ancestors repurposing the temples of ancient defunkt gods
I hate the café I'm at this morning. But at least SFIA is here. Thanks.
ok so i always love listening /watching your stuff keep up the good work :) .. Today though i have one big thought in mind , you use "asume" a few times AND who says any aliens have any clue about Fermi and his paradox. For some reason this is bugging me today and i had to comment.
Because the aliens will be our descendants?
Man, your videos are seriously fulfilling
All we need is a full operating STC
For a second, I thought the "axe crazy lunatic" at 14:52 was Lindybeige :P
Step 1: Explore derelict ruins and spaceships
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit!
Goes double for starting a RUclips channel.
Step 2; Find art, useful hardware, unique useful biologicals, or recyclables.
step 2: implant chest burster
@tk maou
So go in with heavy weapons and bio-containment suits and take decontamination dammed seriously and when necessary chop it into very little pieces for recycling.
The Weyland -Yutani company tried that. It didn't go well.
Space Pirates? Yes please.
:) We will do that episode, promise, though it might be a bit, we're pretty much scheduled out till year's end at this point
Isaac Arthur No rush my man. Keep doing what you're doing and we will be happy. There is a great community here and we all appreciate the work that goes into these.
Don't you hear NASA catch first one, it's a woman and she is lesbian , they cannot hang it it's no gravity on the ISS(ok can use centrifugal force), but this will be extreme only hacking ex wife banks acont .
Cup of Joe ☕️ and some Isaac Arthur in the morning? Hell YES!
there is hash oil cream in my coffee
Where I live, it’s late in the evening, so I tend to fall asleep to these videos :)
Actually one of your best episodes so far, I am impressed by the increase in quality Isaac. Thanks for your contribution.
Happy Arthursday everyone!
As long as no idiot go into a derelict spaceship blindly; and return with a *facehugger* - we all be fine; follow the quarantine protocles people!
You make it sound like a bad thing, facehuggers are among the friendliest of aliens :)
@@isaacarthurSFIA hugs are good and all; but the chestbursters are mean! :[
If you had delayed this video for 2 weeks it would have been in time with the release of Borderlands 3. The overarching main plot point of the Borderlands series is finding and opening Vaults of an ancient alien civilization whose ruins when first discovered caused a huge paradigm shift in human technology - though they tend to hold eldritch abominations, weapons of mass destruction or something valuable enough to include a guardian.
This just gave me another idea for an episode. Space Scoundrels.
400,016 subscribers awesome I’ve been watching for about 4 years keep it going.
An invasive species like in Aliens could easily lead to ships being abandoned or crashed by their crews.
I love these videos! You are a very smart man!!
To me, refuse planets don't make sense. If you're capable of dumping trash onto a planet, you're capable of dropping it into a star or toward the outside of the galaxy.
Well, to be fair, its a heck of a lot easier to reclaim junk off a planet or moon if you can later use that matter than if you dump it into a star or firing it off into the intergalactic void.
You want the trash safely out of the way but you still want it easily accessible.
Anyone that is into TTRPGs, there's a game called Numenera where you're travelling through a world that has loads of tech left over from previous dead civilizations. The garbage they left behind is called "numenera".
Sometime I wish 40k was a bit more scientifically realistic, because the idea of a group of Astartes boarding a habitat that had its systems corrupted by choas (and now all its systems kills anything that litters), and is now dead set on exterminating a local imperium habitat because it dared to launch some bits of trash at it 200 hundred years ago (which the Astartes to now stop said extermination) sounds amazing.
Stugon Monday the GW writers are too many and too short sighted on the theme for such mini-stories.
They explode the lynchpin planet of the imperium in the blink of an eye, pull Primaris marines out of the hidden cavity of the universes waste outlet for no good reason.
Yet hand them an engaging localised incident that could expand the setting a bit and they run away screaming as if a Slanesh spawn just took their trousers off.
This has rapidly become my favorite RUclips channel
Welcome to SFIA, with some of the best Science-future content on RUclips!
This brings me some "Deep Space Derelicts" vibes. I wonder what adventures will space-adventurers have in the future :)
I imagine an expedition abroad some derelict ship though would probably look more like sending in some drones to kill everything and then some engineer walks in wearing a nice suit than what you see in Space Hulk. Killing all the nasties in an old abandoned structure would probably be more like killing bacteria with a UV lamp than anything else. Heck that might even be how you do it, just blast the structure with a ton of radiation to kill everything inside and then wait a few hundred years for it to get safe (you probably have that much time).
I loved the high city setting of the game Project Eden, exploring the long since abandoned depths which actually contained some vicious mutant animals!
Project Eden, such an amazing game.