ZA/UM drama in a shellnut
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2023
- Really disappointing to see what a horrid state ZA/UM is digging for themselves. I don't think Disco Elysium 2 if it comes out will be very good. I wish Kurvitz luck on getting his IP back.
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What was thay thing Joyce said about capital being able to subsume all critiques?
Yeah.
"Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would *critique* capital end up *reinforcing* it instead."
@@chronotunes3663I don't understand, could someone explain this?
@normalguycap Easy answer Che Guevara shirt sold for profit, Rage against the machine selling tickets for millions more serious answer look at how much the narrative of "taking down the evil wealthy elite" is sold in media and not just from some 'indie' book/movie/game studio but by massive corporations, films like the Glass Onion are a perfect example of this it's a film about how horrible the wealthy are, starting wealthy actors and made by a wealthy director for profit even more seriously look at how many "Anti-Capitalist leftists!" Jumped into the arms of the military industrial complex in the last couple of years."This time, it's for a good reason!" The people meant to be the harshest critics of the system completely subsumed and consumed by it to the point of supporting the very worst aspects of it. Both the 'wealthy elite' and 'revolutionary critics' end up selling the same empty and hollow idea of rebellion.
@@normalguycap Basically, no matter how much you criticize existence and the flaws present within it, you will always be contributing to those flaws in some way or another regardless of whether you're right or wrong.
@@Mariodash23 Hmm, okay thank you.
Firing the writer of your critically and comercially acclaimed smash hit visual novel is some 400 IQ decision on the studio's part.
He is only one of the writers, sure he may be the author of the setting and one of the lead developers, but people forget that majority of the game was made by many other talented people. Just saying.
@@NoName-ym5zj Ok, 390 IQ decision.
@@NoName-ym5zjAnd yet it backfired nonetheless.
Authors are a thing, take it or not, it's a thing
@@lorenzomeulli750 I just don't like how people ignore all the other 90% of the team who worked on the game and are responsible for most of it.
@@NoName-ym5zj You know there's only like 1 original writer who hasn't been fired left right?
This is the most Disco Elysium thing to have happened to Disco Elysium
the ultimate ironic twist
DISCO ELYSIUM!!!
Someone on Twitter said something along the lines of: They bought the rights to Golden Eggs and kicked the goose out of the studio.
Literally Fortress Accident
[ENCYCLOPEDIA Medium : Success] : *Fortress Accident were a game development studio working on "Wirrâl Untethered", an extremely ambitious radio roleplaying game about the heat death of the universe.*
Not really
Fortress Accident, from what we see, seems to have failed specifically because of developers' feature creep and inability to set and meet deadlines. The big money men did not contribute to its death whatsoever. ZA/UM's failure, on the other hand, stems from the big money men strangling competent developers as hard as they can.
Literally not at all what happened to Fortress Accident, they fell to lack of direction and feature creep, whereas ZA/UM was taken by corporate mismanagement/IP theft. Not even remotely the same thing. Your comment suits your profile picture
Zaum was actually called fortress occident at first
Share holder gets asked what he dose with his money, fires the dude that filled his wallet
God
[ENCYCLOPEDIA]
Firing the Writer of very Loved Book often brings Disastrous concequences for everyone involved
[Horrible Necktie]
BRATAN, Dont listen to petty rumours, you should totally get rid of that, think of ALL THE MONEY you can have
[HALF-LIGHT]
Look at his shit-eating grin. Fire him. Do it now.
I think it it more of a LOGIC or CONCEPTUALIZATION dialogue. The ENCYCLOPEDIA would probably comment on how there was a game studio that made a bad decision some time ago.
>knows nothing of this
>pirates it anyway
thanks, Shivers.
The bourgeoise aren't human.
B-but Robert said someone's writing was shit and took a legally guaranteed vacation, that makes it okay to take his life's work away from him and fire his friends, right???
I only recently finished my first playthrough of this game... it saddens me to no end that the og writers arent apart of it anymore. This is (imo) one of the best games ever created and its thanks to the incredible writing :'(
"Capitalism killed me Harry"
Ahh yes, the 9000 IQ move of being in charge of the golden egg factory, and firing the goose
You know it’s real drama if Twitter Notes gets involved
We failed to build 0.001 percent of communism boys 😔
BY THE WAY the disco elysium creator basically leaked the entire game
I have the post on my fucking *_tumblr_*
proof? Links?
CAP
Pinned post by searching my youtube url in tumblr
Its in the Posts section. Under "Free Disco Elysco"
@@victoralexandervinkenes9193 No cap fr boi. I didnt download it yet but STILL
@@RainbowGod666 Are you absolutely sure it's the real one, cheif?
Why is this video I made months ago suddenly getting an influx of comments?
That's how youtube algorithms work, you'll never know
there was another wave of bad news. pretty relevant now
@@user-lk4ge3ns2g what happened?
@@chronotunes3663 de2's officially dead and za/um is crumbling for real
Red Tube gods blessed you for now
Sonny.
Man am I heartbroken, that the one game I fell in love with and spent my disposable (non)income on had to be in such a state. Was buying at GOG at least less bad than Steam?
generally it is less bad, but you can always refund the game.
The Deserter: (he opens his eyes and stares right through you) It was real. I'd seen it. I'd seen it *in reality*.
Half-Light: Some kind of great terror. Worse than what you've seen.
You: Seen *what*?
The Deserter: The mask of humanity fall from capital. It has to take it off to kill everyone - everything you love; all the hope and tenderness in the world. It has to take it off, just for one second. To do the deed. And then you see it. As it strangles and beats your friends to death... the sweetest, most courageous people in the world... (he's silent for a second) You see the fear and power in its eyes. Then you *know*.
You: What?
The Deserter: That the bourgeois are not human.
Something something set sail something something not a cent to them if you wanna get the game look up any other options than steam which i cannot mention
Crazy how bad the money people are at managing studios that.... make them money
You're one of my favorite youtubers on disco elysium, so good to see ya
If only I learned this little 3 weeks earlier
This is fitting for the game content.
Love a Rocky cameo.
I remember when i first played disco elysium i was like: god pleaaaaase dont let them screw up their company....welp
It looks like a good game, but I won't buy because of this shit company
🏴☠️ it, it's easy to find. last time it was on sale on steam people reblogged the key to the game on tumblr so people could just play it for free lol.
highly recommend, easily top 5 games of all time for me
Piracy:
have you heard of a little website called fitgirl repack
It is easily one of the best games ever made in its category. I highly recommend playing by any means necessary.
The game itself was made before all the drama. That’s the best case of ethical piracy I can think of.
If I had known about this I would’ve pirated DE, this sucks so much man
i bought it after this happened
This company will be used as an example for people who think that Indie games are infallible.
The new writer is trash.
The old writer had that cynicism you only get in eastern europe. The new writer is hopeful, even as he points out how shit everything is.
So was the old writer? Disco elyisum is very hopeful and optimistic at times. It was cynical, but it showed people could move past that into something better. The game literally ends (assuming you didn't fuck up) solving the case and being once again respected by your cop peers, you literally improve lives in the game via your actions. This seems like a very narrow-minded view of Disco. Yeah, it said the world sucked and everything was shit but that didn't make it *cynical*
Not even saying the new writer is good, just this is a weird ass take on game.
@@boodle399 i didnt say the game was cynical (although it is) i said the writer was cynical.
Old writer: communism is doomed and stupid. The old guard are insane murderers who conducted purges and legalised boy buggering, the new are naive overeducated young people who gatekeep against other communists instead of doing anything, and the best bet for a communist revolution and a free Revachol is an asshole who is turning Martinese into the heart of an international drug operation. And even then, the immense forces of the corrupt colonialist international government will just flatten the city again to stop it if they try.
New writer: communism is here, the people are rebuilding after the war that gave them freedom, the tyrannical evil has been overthrown, and the people dare to smile again.
@@TheAussieBlue fair enough
@@TheAussieBlue I didn't read the book club guys that way. It seemed more like a hopeful, yet careful critique of the modern communist movement. I think the scene where you build the tower piece by piece with them really demonstrates it well: Communism isn't built in a day, and if we want to achieve it, we must work together and build it carefully, block by block. The seemingly impossible structure is held together by the collective plasm of the builders, and, even if only for a moment, something amazing stands, a testament to hope in a dying world.
@@mogim815 Yeah this is the way. And even then the moment you feel a bit of doubt the whole system just crumbles apart. It's meant to show you how there could be hope for something so inplausible in a world like Elysium, or even our own. It's a longuing for something that seemingly can't be, yet you still desperately wish for it to be so. It's disco-core.
"In dark times, should the stars also go out?"
And just like that, I'm willing to buy your gay propaganda piece.
I do wish the developers at ZAUM the best, personally I have no doubts they'll make a great game. Some people act like the three who were removed comprised the entirety of ZAUM, when it was a whole team, large chunks of which are still at the studio, and I trust they'll make a great game. It's just a shame it all has to be tainted with this.
Will say they fired the person who litterally created the world.
Disco elysium is a prequel to a book the creator wrote (imagine if georfe lucas made a starwars game and then he got kicked off of it and suddenly he's not the creator). It IS their intelectial property. Studios stealing stuff pf writters is bad eneugh as is.
Those 3 are the people who created and directed the IP. Removing them means all you have left is a trademark.
Well unfortunately the current news suggests that they won't. They've cancelled the sequel and the expansion and are axing a third of the workforce.
they cancelled disco elysium 2 few days ago so no my dear fellow, they wont make any more games at all cause those 3 are gone, the actual talent lol
@@Bleilock1 there will likly be a spiritual successer. By the same artists
Another L for the self proclaim socialist, it is a good day
this. it was clear they've screwed themselves when instead of working on "expansions" everyone's so sad about they opened a fucking disco elysium-themed boutique. as much as love the game, the obnoxious alco-bohemia got what it deserved
you're cringe
dude we get it nobody likes you
[PHYSICAL INSTRUMENT -SUCSESS-]
Böther should have punched the boss man, a smack on the head would have given him more sense.
[REACTION SPEED -SUCSESS-]
Too. Late.
[VOLITION -FAILED-]
I don't wanna play this game anymore..
Trash game idc
Trash comment and you cared enough to make it.
this is totally bait
**Growls!** I'M SO FREAKING MAD!!!
RHETORIC [Very Easy: Success] - He's just slinging around volatile words with no thought to provoke reactions.
LOGIC [Medium: Success] - Judging by the name, it's possible there was not a even a person responsible for these words. It could just as well be an automated reply.
CONCEPTUALIZATION [Medium: Success] - Like a thin veneer of wood that when stripped away, has nothing but a vacant hole underneath.
HALF LIGHT [Challenging: Success] - I want. To kick his teeth in.