Many have commented that adaptors is a great way of saving even more money: An adapter to go between the Canon lens and a Nikon body would save me the money for the Canon 5D, and an adapter with a built in tilt shift mechanism would be even less costly. This is indeed TRUE! I should have mentioned this: My relationship with adapters is long and not overly helpful! It is probably on me, but due to this, I have chosen to exclude adaptors as an option. I'm sorry I did not mention this in the video. /frederik
My only adapter is one for using Nikon f mount lenses on my Fujifilm camera's. Only weird thing is that when I use a Nikon lens on a Xt3 for instance I have to set the focus ring to another position. So when taking infinity shots the focusring is not on infinity but on 5 meters or so with a telelens to get the picture in focus. I think the distance between the rear of the lens and the sensor is somehow different with the adapter. Well nothing I can not handle but I just want to understand why this happens. Must be the nature of being an MSc in engineering I guess😅😅
I like the Tokina macro (but I use it on D800e) and also I have one for my Canon 5DS. So I am using DSLR cameras rather than mirrorless with the Tokina macro. I also like very much the Nikon 60mm macro (and prefer it to the 105mm). That lens is so old (D screw drive) that it might not seem good but it takes great pictures. I also have 150mm and 180mm second party macros, but I feel they are not as sharp as the Tokina or the Nikon 60. For me, manual focus is very important. When the light gets low enough, any lens will hunt, but your eye can still see where the focus needs to be.
Very rational decision. I like keeping the "zoo" as small as possible. That's why I don't have a mirrorless camera, because my DSLR fits my needs (and more) and I can swap lenses between analog and digital bodies (all Nikon). But everybody has his/her own preferences.
I have a long and complicated relationship with adapters. It may be that this one does not have any surprises ( www.rollei.de/en/products/viltrox-ef-z-adapter-10923 ) but my general experience with adapters is that there is something that makes the solution less usable than when mounting the lens on the native camera. So to simplify my life I have simply decided not to use adapters. Not even the FTZ. Notice that the price of the adapter is close to the price of a well used Canon 5D mk 1!
If you own a mirrorless Camera, why don’t you just buy a tilt shift adaptor which have become less than $200 on eBay. I bought one for a Sony camera and a Sony adaptor to my Nikon Z5 and now all my lenses are tilt shift not just one focal length. As usual, I always enjoy your videos they’re very practical and I enjoy your opinions and agree with most of them. Regards, Gerry.
Thank you Gerry! I have a long and complicated relationship with adaptors. In my experience there is always a catch. Something that doesn't work or doesn't fit etc. So I have decided to cut out adapters as an option in my photography life to keep things simple / less frustrating. YMMV and all that, but I have simply never owned an adapter I was happy about.
@@frederikboving that’s too bad I’ve had really good success in buying really cheap adaptors that work just great. This adaptor I bought even came with a little screwdriver to adjust the tolerances on the tilt shift adaptor so I’m finding it works really well because I set it up to have lower tolerances anyways enjoy your new acquisitions. And keep shooting. Regards, Gerry.
I'm in the Nikon system and would love a 19mm tilt/shift lens but they are costly! One suggestion is to pick up a Nikon PB-4 bellows. They support tilt and shift. I combine mine with a Rodenstock 135mm enlarger lens. This will focus from infinity to about 2x macro. Playing with Scheimpflug is a joy. I have photos taken at f/5.6 with focus all the way from the front of the item to the back. Very, very sharp as well. Although I must admit that I am not a pixel peeper! The whole set up probably cost me $200.00 US.
Thank you for the tip with the PB-4 and the Rodenstock 135mm enlarger lens. When my next video is out, I will explain in more detail why I went with the Canon option. All the best!
only 200 euro difference seems not worthwhile, if you throw in maybe an extra battery for the Canon or other accessories that you may already have for your current brands?
It's a good point. The price difference factors in both a memory card and battery, i.e. a fully operational camera. But I forgot a radio trigger for my flash and that of course eats into the price difference. But still I find it crazy that a lens and a fully functioning camera comes cheaper than a Nikon lens alone. I like Nikon, but not that much.
1. Why don't you advertize to your subs or watchers to see if you will get any offer to sell any from us before sending it off to some big biz? 2. Why send money on a tilt shift these days when there's photoshop. Ken Rockwell's biased from my experience.. I agree not to be married to any brand but trust me everyone has an allegiance and for Ken Rockwell, he's biased towards canon I do alot of architectural and product photography and I have NEVER wished I had a tilt shift. For Architectural, do the fake tilt shift ( check Rich Baun ) and for Product just focus stack ( even Karl Taylor with his tilt shift focus stacks most time ) .. Just my Opinion though
1. Because it is 1 transaction for me instead of 11 individual. No marketing. No deals going back. It is just more easy. 2. Focus stacking is hard work imho. Lots of potential errors and the images often look strange in the areas where the shift from one image to another is made. Check the Tin House Studio channel to see what a tilt shift can do.
@@frederikboving I agree with your assessment of the look of stacked images.Of course it could have something to do with the program used and the fact that I've not tried stacking very often. The only reservations I would have about changing systems is that I always take a big financial hit selling camera gear. Buying retail and selling wholesale is a good way to lose a lot of the value!
@@terrygoyan Thank you Terry! My approach to buying and selling gear is that most of the time I buy gear that is dated, and especially for camera bodies that means they are far down the depreciation curve. When I then sell the gear again, the relative change (other than the wholesale margin) is little and hence also the absolute loss. I really try to avoid the temptation to buy gear from new, although it is a more "delicious" experience. The Canon 5D that I just got is so beaten up that it is almost funny! But there is nothing wrong with the images that it produces.
Frederik, you are right about one should not marry to a brand but on the other hand, typically a system is built gradually and over time, needs are changing, so as skills, etc., and it is not that easy to 'divorce' quickly in some cases. :) It would be interesting for me to understand what lenses did you decide to part with , for the aim to get a tilt-shift. :)
@@frederikboving thank you for listing the lot. The 85/2 ai was the video that helped me found you and another precious (to me) lens from the list is the 135/2.8 ai, but I would assume you are preserving the 135 DC. :) Again, good luck ahead to the tilt shift. ;)
Hi Frederik. I thought you might consider a Canon to Nikon adapter mount so you could put the Canon lens on one of your Nikon bodies. However, I see that you have already written about that in a reply to another comment above. 😊 Looking forward to the images with the new lens.
Than you for your kind suggestion Bob. Yes, I have a long and complicated relationship with adaptors. There is always a catch or something that doesn't work imho. Probably should have mentioned that in the video 🙂
@@frederikboving I can see most of them are vintage glass and if you exclusively shoot digital or not want the dreamy look and character from vintage glass I see the point. However, many portrait photographers prefer vintage glass for its look and character. Since I predominantly shoots analog these lenses do not see much dust on my shelfs 😉 PS. I would have loved to buy your Nikon 85mm f2 Nikkor AI to complete my collection of Nikkor 85mm (have the 1.4 AI-s, 1.4 AF-d and the 1.8 AF-d)
@@michaelrasmussen3347 If there is no dust on your shelves, then your lens portfolio is optimal for your photography needs. That is what I hope others will also achieve watching this video!
Many have commented that adaptors is a great way of saving even more money: An adapter to go between the Canon lens and a Nikon body would save me the money for the Canon 5D, and an adapter with a built in tilt shift mechanism would be even less costly. This is indeed TRUE! I should have mentioned this: My relationship with adapters is long and not overly helpful! It is probably on me, but due to this, I have chosen to exclude adaptors as an option. I'm sorry I did not mention this in the video. /frederik
If Nikon made a modern rangefinder I would have gone with it but I took an opportunity and tried Leica. What have I done? Please help me!
🙂
My only adapter is one for using Nikon f mount lenses on my Fujifilm camera's. Only weird thing is that when I use a Nikon lens on a Xt3 for instance I have to set the focus ring to another position. So when taking infinity shots the focusring is not on infinity but on 5 meters or so with a telelens to get the picture in focus. I think the distance between the rear of the lens and the sensor is somehow different with the adapter. Well nothing I can not handle but I just want to understand why this happens. Must be the nature of being an MSc in engineering I guess😅😅
Thank you 🙏🏻 for sharing - it is issues like this that has convinced me that adapters are not for me 🤣😂
For only saving 200 euros, I would have stayed with Nikon
Noted.
I have married a Tamron lens to my Nikon DSLR. Wiorks great!
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I like the Tokina macro (but I use it on D800e) and also I have one for my Canon 5DS. So I am using DSLR cameras rather than mirrorless with the Tokina macro. I also like very much the Nikon 60mm macro (and prefer it to the 105mm). That lens is so old (D screw drive) that it might not seem good but it takes great pictures. I also have 150mm and 180mm second party macros, but I feel they are not as sharp as the Tokina or the Nikon 60. For me, manual focus is very important. When the light gets low enough, any lens will hunt, but your eye can still see where the focus needs to be.
Thank you for sharing Dann! 🙏
Very rational decision. I like keeping the "zoo" as small as possible. That's why I don't have a mirrorless camera, because my DSLR fits my needs (and more) and I can swap lenses between analog and digital bodies (all Nikon). But everybody has his/her own preferences.
I like the "zoo" term 🙂
I have a long and complicated relationship with adapters. It may be that this one does not have any surprises ( www.rollei.de/en/products/viltrox-ef-z-adapter-10923 ) but my general experience with adapters is that there is something that makes the solution less usable than when mounting the lens on the native camera. So to simplify my life I have simply decided not to use adapters. Not even the FTZ. Notice that the price of the adapter is close to the price of a well used Canon 5D mk 1!
I love my Canon 5D classic, have fun with it!
Thank you Kim 🙏🏻
Did Canon use a CCD sensor on the early 5D's?
@@terrygoyan I think the only Canon with a CCD sensor was the EOS-1D
If you own a mirrorless Camera, why don’t you just buy a tilt shift adaptor which have become less than $200 on eBay. I bought one for a Sony camera and a Sony adaptor to my Nikon Z5 and now all my lenses are tilt shift not just one focal length. As usual, I always enjoy your videos they’re very practical and I enjoy your opinions and agree with most of them. Regards, Gerry.
Thank you Gerry! I have a long and complicated relationship with adaptors. In my experience there is always a catch. Something that doesn't work or doesn't fit etc. So I have decided to cut out adapters as an option in my photography life to keep things simple / less frustrating. YMMV and all that, but I have simply never owned an adapter I was happy about.
@@frederikboving that’s too bad I’ve had really good success in buying really cheap adaptors that work just great. This adaptor I bought even came with a little screwdriver to adjust the tolerances on the tilt shift adaptor so I’m finding it works really well because I set it up to have lower tolerances anyways enjoy your new acquisitions. And keep shooting. Regards, Gerry.
I'm in the Nikon system and would love a 19mm tilt/shift lens but they are costly! One suggestion is to pick up a Nikon PB-4 bellows. They support tilt and shift. I combine mine with a Rodenstock 135mm enlarger lens. This will focus from infinity to about 2x macro. Playing with Scheimpflug is a joy. I have photos taken at f/5.6 with focus all the way from the front of the item to the back. Very, very sharp as well. Although I must admit that I am not a pixel peeper! The whole set up probably cost me $200.00 US.
Thank you for the tip with the PB-4 and the Rodenstock 135mm enlarger lens. When my next video is out, I will explain in more detail why I went with the Canon option. All the best!
only 200 euro difference seems not worthwhile, if you throw in maybe an extra battery for the Canon or other accessories that you may already have for your current brands?
It's a good point. The price difference factors in both a memory card and battery, i.e. a fully operational camera. But I forgot a radio trigger for my flash and that of course eats into the price difference. But still I find it crazy that a lens and a fully functioning camera comes cheaper than a Nikon lens alone. I like Nikon, but not that much.
1. Why don't you advertize to your subs or watchers to see if you will get any offer to sell any from us before sending it off to some big biz?
2. Why send money on a tilt shift these days when there's photoshop. Ken Rockwell's biased from my experience.. I agree not to be married to any brand but trust me everyone has an allegiance and for Ken Rockwell, he's biased towards canon
I do alot of architectural and product photography and I have NEVER wished I had a tilt shift. For Architectural, do the fake tilt shift ( check Rich Baun ) and for Product just focus stack ( even Karl Taylor with his tilt shift focus stacks most time ) .. Just my Opinion though
1. Because it is 1 transaction for me instead of 11 individual. No marketing. No deals going back. It is just more easy.
2. Focus stacking is hard work imho. Lots of potential errors and the images often look strange in the areas where the shift from one image to another is made. Check the Tin House Studio channel to see what a tilt shift can do.
@@frederikboving I agree with your assessment of the look of stacked images.Of course it could have something to do with the program used and the fact that I've not tried stacking very often. The only reservations I would have about changing systems is that I always take a big financial hit selling camera gear. Buying retail and selling wholesale is a good way to lose a lot of the value!
@@terrygoyan Thank you Terry! My approach to buying and selling gear is that most of the time I buy gear that is dated, and especially for camera bodies that means they are far down the depreciation curve. When I then sell the gear again, the relative change (other than the wholesale margin) is little and hence also the absolute loss. I really try to avoid the temptation to buy gear from new, although it is a more "delicious" experience. The Canon 5D that I just got is so beaten up that it is almost funny! But there is nothing wrong with the images that it produces.
Frederik, you are right about one should not marry to a brand but on the other hand, typically a system is built gradually and over time, needs are changing, so as skills, etc., and it is not that easy to 'divorce' quickly in some cases. :) It would be interesting for me to understand what lenses did you decide to part with , for the aim to get a tilt-shift. :)
This is the lot:
- Nikon 135mm f2.8 Nikkor AI
- Pentax 50mm f1.4 Super-Takumar
- ttartisan 50mm f0.95 aps-c
- Nikon 24mm f2.8 Nikkor AI
- Pentax 55mm f1.8 Super-Takumar
- viltrox 33/1.4 Z
- Nikon 85mm f2 Nikkor AI
- Canon 50mm f1.8 S.C.
- Helios 58mm f2 Helios-44-2
- Nikon 105mm f2.5 Nikkor-P Auto Pre-AI
Sorry, can't remember #11!
@@frederikboving thank you for listing the lot. The 85/2 ai was the video that helped me found you and another precious (to me) lens from the list is the 135/2.8 ai, but I would assume you are preserving the 135 DC. :) Again, good luck ahead to the tilt shift. ;)
Hi Frederik. I thought you might consider a Canon to Nikon adapter mount so you could put the Canon lens on one of your Nikon bodies. However, I see that you have already written about that in a reply to another comment above. 😊 Looking forward to the images with the new lens.
Than you for your kind suggestion Bob. Yes, I have a long and complicated relationship with adaptors. There is always a catch or something that doesn't work imho. Probably should have mentioned that in the video 🙂
Hope to see the results with the tilt shift lens.
Will do. Meanwhile the tin house studio channel has lots of videos about shooting with a tilt shift lens. Highly recommended.
What lenses did you sell?
This is the lot:
- Nikon 135mm f2.8 Nikkor AI
- Pentax 50mm f1.4 Super-Takumar
- ttartisan 50mm f0.95 aps-c
- Nikon 24mm f2.8 Nikkor AI
- Pentax 55mm f1.8 Super-Takumar
- viltrox 33/1.4 Z
- Nikon 85mm f2 Nikkor AI
- Canon 50mm f1.8 S.C.
- Helios 58mm f2 Helios-44-2
- Nikon 105mm f2.5 Nikkor-P Auto Pre-AI
Sorry, can't remember #11!
@@frederikboving I can see most of them are vintage glass and if you exclusively shoot digital or not want the dreamy look and character from vintage glass I see the point. However, many portrait photographers prefer vintage glass for its look and character. Since I predominantly shoots analog these lenses do not see much dust on my shelfs 😉
PS. I would have loved to buy your Nikon 85mm f2 Nikkor AI to complete my collection of Nikkor 85mm (have the 1.4 AI-s, 1.4 AF-d and the 1.8 AF-d)
@@michaelrasmussen3347 If there is no dust on your shelves, then your lens portfolio is optimal for your photography needs. That is what I hope others will also achieve watching this video!