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"I'm NOT a Narcissist!" Giving an NPD Diagnosis | DIANA DIAMOND
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2020
- Narcissistic Personality Disorder has a lot of stigma around it, so giving the diagnosis can be a touchy process. Diana Diamond explains how she goes about introducing the personality disorder diagnosis to a patient.
It turns out one of the reasons people don't want to hear they have NPD is because the term "narcissist" is used so often to describe Trump.
We interviewed Diana Diamond about narcissism and its prevalence in our society today, all the way from healthy traits to Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
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Diana Diamond is an expert clinician who makes use of Transference-Focused Psychotherapy in her practice treating NPD and BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder).
Check out our interviews of Otto Kernberg and Frank Yeomans for lots more related material: Kernberg: • Dr. Otto Kernberg
Yeomans: • Dr. Frank Yeomans
For more information about BORDERLINE, the feature-length documentary we made about BPD, please visit: borderlinethefilm.com
Our archive of videos on BPD and NPD is expanding - be sure to subscribe to our channel here: / borderlinernotes
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I so much want to hear about this overlap between NPD and BPD. This was a great flick but didn't cover that specific subject. By the way, Diana rules on NPD. It is just amazing to hear her.
You can find Kernberg's videos on this channel about it.
OTTO KERNBERG - Narcissism: A Defense Against an Underlying Borderline Structure
OTTO KERNBERG - Narcissism vs. Borderline
When a child grows without maths, they never understand what they don't know. We all understand desire and that creates the relationship. The 'love' presented by the narc is a construct of smiles, hugs, and the words to win. Once the challenge is over, they progressively drop their techniques and you are left with their lack of true love.
I have BPD and I find it ironic how we are seen to be the ones with complete black and white thinking, yet neurotypicals think of us in black and white ways. We display the rougher symptoms of being clingy or having anger issues and then in the neurotypical's mind, we are "evil, abusive", but if we don't display our symptoms at all and act just like them, then we are "good, kind". Neurotypicals always talk about narcissists so badly but really it just seems like they're projecting.
It's as if one cannot see the other unless one has the same flaw in themself.
@@lisbethbird8268 personality disordered people are destructive. No need for someone to be destructive themselves to be able to recognize destruction. Being unable to recognize it, as paradoxically as it may sound, makes someone an enabler of destruction or destructive themselves.
@@ST-yc7uj good job proving their point.
@@simply_pet how? There are a couple of different points here.
@@ST-yc7uj their entire point about viewing them in black and white lol
1:12 Well, it's not the label that's negative, "normal" people don't react to just the label, it's the actions that come with it. Narcissists gave themselves a bad rap because the way that they behave.
Bipolar people for example can also be assholes too but people are generally more accepting of them. I have seen more and more narcissists come around and be open that they are narcissists. There’s a guy on RUclips that has a channel who is narcissist and teaches people about narcissism. He knows it’s a flaw but he’s trying to do good with it. In a way it just another disability the way bipolar or schizophrenia is.
@@MichelleNovalee Umm, no.
People with schizophrenia aren't in control of themselves. They can't just stop having delusions or hearing voices.
Narcs ARE in control of themselves. They hurt people on purpose to feel better about themselves. It's not the same thing, at all.
One is a verifiable, medical condition. The other is a personality disorder.
The problem is vilification of people through a label. You obviously see yourself as good while doing the worst thing in the world: dehumanizing people you don't know based on a label. You have no clue what NPD is, could not make the difference with ASPD, you probably listened to alll the RUclips NPD abuse frauds. You swallowed propaganda. This is lying.
This is the most dangerous behavior for mankind. It is what scapegoating is about. The same is worth for Muslims, Democrats /Republicans, Atheists/Christians; Jews.,......
Why this comment since no narcissist complained? For yourself.
I am sure you also talk kdown on other labels.
Bottom line, in the lay person's view: BPD = sad, NPD = bad
No, not at all. There's a ton of overlap and the impulsivity/dysregulation of a lot of people with bpd can be viewed as "bad".
Sugar Free yes I agree. My heart goes out to borderlines because they had a Narcissistic parent. And BPD is very treatable if the patient is self aware and motivated. For people with BPD, unlike narcissim, you can self reflect, you can heal and overcome this disorder.
Perhaps I'll modify my comment:
In the BPD's view - "I have a condition, pity me."
In the NPD's view - "There's nothing wrong with me (but that BPD person there is completely out of control!). I should be the therapist, I'm way more intelligent!"
@@donnalehman1832 maybe its the narcissisim in me lol but this series is filled THE experts in the field saying how people with narcissistic pathology can be self aware, self reflective and change.
@@sugarfree1894 i think most pathologies are too complex to generalize. Many people with a borderline pathology also carry many narcissistic traits and as stated in many of these videos, the underlying issue of people with npd is a borderline structure. Its all so fascinating/scary.
Interesting video
I don't think that they were able to govern responsibly
If the patient is paying you for your services, how can you delay giving them an honest response when they ask you what their diagnosis??? If a patient asks and the doctor refuses to give a straight answer, the patient may not return.
Did you not watch the video?? Diana waits until the patient is ready to hear the diagnosis, why would a patient who is not ready to hear a diagnosis ask for one???
There are many different answers based on individual clients. I had a client asked me at the end of the first session if I thought he had NPD. Personally, I don’t want to diagnose anyone after 60 minutes. Personality disorders are sometimes easy to spot but that doesn’t mean it’s always ethically responsible to share the diagnosis right away.
Some people are relieved to have words for their experience, as mentioned in the video. Others feel it validates their distorted view of themselves, “see, something is inherently wrong with me, I knew it!”
People have a right to know and it’s also true you have to weigh the risks and benefits. If it could harm the client then you should pause on sharing the diagnosis. Find out why it’s important for them to have a name. Ask them what they think their diagnosis is, how things would change for them if that were accurate, etc.
Things aren’t always so black and white. Doctors and mental health professionals aren’t the same ( of course:)). Mental health professionals can have reasonable, justified, and ethical concerns that lead to withholding that - which can be discussed with the client.
@@jimenaalvarado5434 That, and an honest response is by default not honest if you do not do enough assessment and make sure you can or cannot rule out other possible diagnoses. That person is as manipulative as the narcissist, hence their question. Finally, a narcissist, in fact, any client with or without an NPD diagnosis, can and will leave therapy for any reason or no reason, regardless of if their 'reason' is legitimate or not. Manipulative people don't always mean NPD. It can look like Bipolar, Borderline, someone with substance abuse issues, schizoprhenia or schizotypal, even schizoaffective, and any other diagnoses.
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Normally it shouldn't change anything for the therapist who would reassure their patient.
@@doloreschansey9556 Do you also do numerology and astrology?
Ha! I'm not one of those people because I admit straight away!
Can you help me?
Is there some contact for you in Jamaica
When a person looks at the internet and sees comments like, “They’re demon-possessed…they have black eyes, I’ve seen it!!”, who would want to take on the label of “narcissist”?
That is themes I first encountered on the internet while I started doing my own research as a layman. It is quite an abundance of communities, on every big social media platforms, that focus especially on those themes you mentioned. If everybody faster in the process get the option to listen to the people doing research on the subject it will be easier to understand the issues and move on from the affect that is the entry point.
Borderline overlaps with Narcissist traits.
Can a President with ongoing confusion govern responsibly;
especially when they can.
not figure out where to stand and which way to look
Another President diagnosed as being narcissistic by popular acclaim have no problem in addressing their duties of office 🤔
The one with narcissism lives in a delusional, confabulated reality, while the other one walks slow, and possibly even process information slow, but still makes decisions based in reality... I'd take the older but reality-based guy any day.
@bostonjackson9384 like opening the southern border to call and sundry, abandoning American military ordnance worth bilions the enemy, discounting military personel as ever being killed, disrespecting with impatience deceased returned heros !
Carry on !
Do all of you ever get sick of this word narcissism?! Geez I sure am......ya, I believe everyone should be looking over their shoulder and being wary every moment that everyone else besides themselves is a narc!!! If you really believe your friends and/or partner is a serious narc, for gods sake walk away....
My family believes I’m a narc and want to take me for some test due because I don’t accept my mistakes I wanna feel power and control over them and if they don’t agree or like with what I say I get mad I can be sitting in bed and out of no where and extreme feeling of anger comes in making me wanna go hurt someone And my emotions are jus always angry and I want people to admire me and I always feel like I’m better than everyone I jus don’t believe I’m a narc and that’s jus who I am and if they ask me to apologize I would usually only apologize out of my own benefit not bc I want to or bc they told me
You’ve clearly never dealt with narcissistic personality disorder in someone you loved dearly before…
@@laciehunt9535 That wouldn't be love.
Or you can stop watching channels talking about npd. You can just walk away. Meanwhile, the rest of us want information.
@@racs9606 Comments don't indicate much interest in yNypD, but rather self-complacency. It is all about blaming the NPD, dehumanizing.tus more.
People exchanging on the topic as biologists would over a new sort of fly.
'Our president' - The Most Nark This To Say Ever.
Body what are your political views guys? It's not like super heavy handed or anything, with almost every other video....
.....and they still can govern responsibly”...you dunce...
I wouldn’t characterize trumps presidency as responsible.