Eliminating Heat Soak on a Supercharged V8: 2 Essential GT500 Mods
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2019
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Justin is such a awesome CEO, very knowledgeable and isn’t afraid to talk or interact with customers. Definitely motivates me to buy their supercharger even though I can’t afford one. And I tend to lean more towards centrifugal superchargers.
A used gen2 or gen2r is alot cheaper than their gen3 and is still a very capable blower.
I just bought a wrecked 2017 Shelby GT350 for a steal and it is my dream car 🙏
VOODOO RED DEVIL GT350 Hope you get her to where she once was!
@@1SIK500 It's really not in bad shape at all. i'll have it fixed in a few months. check out my channel. i'll be posting many videos of my mustangs this summer.
I'm glad you made this, most people don't understand or don't put enough time or money into upgrading their cooling system.
Dude Is made of what it takes to be successful, Seems approachable. I stay tuned in .
I don’t.
@@cvoxoisgodly Nice popular Pic you choose arnold
Solid content! You've done more mods in your 2 months of ownership than I have in my 4 years of my '14. You're inspiring me to do more mods!
The Florida heat is hell on the Mopar also
Andrew, I like that your upgrading for reliability because everyone else goes straight to power upgrades. Keep doing what your doing. 👍
Normally I add power to stock stuff and let things break and then upgrade. This car I am trying to add the proper supporting mods so I can go out to the track a rip a 9 Second pass right away
vmp has a good tech there. he seems really knowledgeable and even admitted some times he messes up but tries really hard. i can admire that.
I did both of these on my Roushcharged 15 GTPP, I'm glad you finally did this heat soak happens around 120, I noticed a significant drop in IAT's... Glad you did this smart move
How many runs can you do back to back with your roush setup?
Having VMP so close by and working with the owner who knows his shit is awesome, great video Andrew.
That's awesome. And reminds me I need to watch more of VMP's videos
Justin is The Man! Keep those mods Coming!
Great video as always Andrew. I want to upgrade my cooling for the cobra as well soon. Also the GT500 looks so good dude lol
Cooling mods are definitely important especially on the hot summer days.
Justin is THE MAN! WOW! Great video! Can't wait for future videos of your VMP upgrades. So cool!
When I'm back from deployment gonna order my heat exchanger as well
Are you back? How was the install for you?
Hell yeah man, get err cooling like shes suppose to. I got the same thermostat for my Paxton supercharged mustang and it runs alot cooler then it did before, runs at 180-182 normal and will see a spike up to about 197 or so when its ran.
I gotta throw one of these on the roush...great car dude! subscribed for sure
HELL YEAH BROTHER!! That’s a whole lot of cooling and sucking going on!! Should be one Happy ride now!!
Great Content Always 💯
Omg that filler background music was driving me nuts!!! I had my bands full moving stuff around the shop and it felt like an eternity before i could mute this! I almost didn't make it 😵🤣
Justin is a great dude! So damn helpful.
It’s good to see that Stuart got away from his mother and was able to have a successful career.
Let me do iiiiiiiiit
Awesome video. Great interaction and information. Where is Ashley? Haven't seen her in a while.
Love these mods to the GT500! By the way Andrew, speaking of Jeff Ashton, have your heard from him?
Buying a GT500 is my ultimate goal! Once my Nova is where it needs to he I'm selling it for a Shelby for sure!
Smart man
Justin is such a nice guy and definitely knows what he is doing!! And Andrew will you gain any hp now that it runs cooler?
Although this will help but your system is contingent on ambient temps. If its 90+ outside your still gonna run higher iat’s. In the future go with Killer Chiller and Meth.
Jake sorry man not getting what your saying. Many people running KC and there a/c works perfectly fine. I live in cali. Your KC is on when you turn on your A/C. Just because your KC is working doesn’t mean it cuts cold air to the cabin. Are there people who have a KC and have had issues yes, just like people with superchargers or any other aftermarket mod. I did also mention meth. If thats done to just cool it will work wonders. There are other routes as well.
On my own car I have 2 heat exchangers, it all just depends on the car you have to be honest. My supercharger is not efficient as to some of the newer ones and even with a superflow intercooler pump and dual heat exchanger plus a always ON mod for the pump it has tons of heat soak and pulls tons of timing. Newer superchargers are not as bad and the ECU's isn't as aggressive as it is on my car. My car pulls timing at 95 degree IAT's, then more at 113 and then at 149. After that supercharger stops working and falls flat on it face top end, its a clutched supercharger pulley. A fixed one were some people will do on my car raises the temps even more since its always spinning. All in all it depends.
With open headers and a 160' thermostat on my fbo 14' gt500 I usually see in the texas heat I'm typically iat's are 10 degrees over ambient with moderate speed... But running E85 in the heat is an absolute game changer it pulls and runs like it's 60 degrees outside. Go E85 and you'll not regret it.
What are iats?
@@ogrecknerryzaog7125 I'm trying to abbreviate - Intake air temperature (there's a dash readout of the intake air temperature in the 13-14 GT500 menu you can bring up and watch while driving) gives an idea of how heat soaked your cars engine / engine bay is.
@@Royalties500 ahh okay preciate the response just getting into the car community and trying to learn everything I can
When you can hear the fans for the heat exchanger over the sound of your car, you'll probably get the gap...
Great video 💯
Checking in a year later it looks like, but how is the heat soak issue currently? I love positive displacement blowers but the heat soak issue is a PITA.
That red color is great
Check out the stewart emp pump. Moves A LOT of water
Vmp is just badass.
Great video ..
hey Andrew. in one of your previous videos people were commenting on how the connecting rods are weak in these gt500. I am a service technician at a ford dealer. today I had physical proof of those connecting rods. this 2014 gt500 got towed in. when we removed the skid plate we found a connecting rod cap sitting on it. this guy put a rod trough the block this gt500 only had a pulley upgrade. i just want to warning you. we quoted a new engine for him. priced at 28000$CAN. that is motor only. no labor.
do you run the fans 24/7 or did u get a switch installed? just ordered mine and im very curious
Very good upgrade especially for those 13-14 shelbys. Btw how is Jeff Aston doing these days? Does he still have the GT350?
He’s been on and off posting on his social media. Haven’t seen him though
Hey Andrew, had someone ask which oil VMP uses in their blowers. Any idea?
Eaton supercharger oil www.vmpperformance.com/Eaton-Supercharger-Oil
Put fly screen wire behind bumper in front of heat exchanger and radiator this will stop bug build up on them
And how do you secure fly screen.
Awesome video as always!! The outro tho... I love it!!
Testing a pressure type system for leaks using vacuum is not the best way to do that. It will show outright leaks but may very well close-up small leaks or seepages.
i live in LA and i have one and it's a must
Does the gt500 have a better suspension than the terminator do you get any wheel hop under power?
The GT500 does not typically wheel hop under power. The GT500 definitely has the more desirable rear end for drag racing (sra).
@@MustangLifestyleTV Nice it sound like a beast, cant wait to see the end of your vision keep up the great work.
Seems like down to earth guys.
Aren’t the cup holders on the s197 just wonderful? 😂
I bought a heat exchanger from Shelby same as this it leaked from day one the tig weld came up short when it was looked at , was nothing but an expensive mess for me ,,, never again this is probably a better product than Shelbys exchangers .
How high is to high for AIT. Mine runs in the 125-130 all time.
There isn’t one for the 18 GT?
How do you clean out the heat exchange during lovebug season? I imagine its going to clog so fast on a single drive.
if it were me i would get condenser cleaner from an hvac store. wear a mask.
Lol you would think you was from down south tx the way you say gt5hunnerd 😂
What coolant did you run? Yellow or orange
2016 GT premium with flowmasters, airaid cold air, lowering springs 50k miles for 20k should I? Only downside is auto but very clean car
Bull GT 20k yeah and it’s a premium
I’d say wait for a manual, it sounds like you want a manual and if it were me I’d regret getting it every time I put it in drive🤷♂️
@@MrAdrian13 that's what I'm saying car is fully loaded and very clean
@@xboxgamerz777 I've been looking for a manual but the price, options and state of the car made me consider it
Bull GT damn thats a good ass deal tho shittttt do what you feel like doing u could manual swap one day😂💯
I was so close to buying that car from Ashton. I was just stuck on getting the green with the saddle interior.
It is a beautiful car for sure
Right.
I did wind up finding a guard/saddle car in Texas. It’s been two years now and I’m dying to boost the car.
Will it fit with my Whipple?
Are the fans suppose to run continuously when the car is on ? Or will they turn on after a certain temp?
They stay on
Mustang Lifestyle ok 👌 cool I just installed them today!
Im ready for the lth and cams
Delivery date of tomorrow for Headers!!!!!
Mustang Lifestyle how long would it be for the video to come out of getting them installed
Few days hopefully if i get them installed tomorrow
Mustang Lifestyle its gonna sounds amazing can’t wait
What is the purpose for the 170 degree thermostat?
Starts the cooling process quicker.
Damn really good content., for a mustang guy! Lol
Dual fans nice 😏👍
Mustang mod, put an iron block 460 big block, not some weak aluminum block, aluminum heads with a copper gasket and a good turbo, cause those 460s have stupid low end torque and dont need an immediate boost
Yay
wooot
Mustang Lifestyle Glad you uploaded when you did, I was eating dinner by myself watching another boring channel.
You want your engine as hot as possible and engine intake air as cold as possible. A lower thermostat might not be the way to go, hold onto the stock one just in case! Engines don't run well cold and you'll get less combustion. Ford engineers had it set at what it was set at from testing and research. Oil temp needs to be a certain temp to correctly lubricate bearings and critical components.
Why not try both and see what does better on the dyno with 93 ?
what happened to Jeff ashton???
I wish they made that for the 5.4L
The Jeff Ashton car was in a major wreck, right??
Were you racing a GTR or at Battle of Winterfell?
Reypadd clever
So technically, a heat exchanger should b the firstmod.
Pretty much
I guess I’m the one who’s got that problem, my fans from my vmp heat exchanger are blowing air on reverse. How can I fix that?
Give them a call tomorrow. I’m sure they would know how to fix it
You can probably just reverse the polarities in the electrical connector. Most fans only have two wires. Positive and a negative. If you switch them (left to right, right to left) the fans will spin in the opposite direction. VMP will know for sure.
Thank you guys!!!! And thank god I watched that video today. It really helped.
Yo what year is your car? I have a 13 and mine has a horse on the miles to e window and yours has the cobra
14. The story goes Carrol Shelby saw the first 2013s (rolling down the assembly line in 2012) with the horse and insisted it be changed but it didn't get changed until 2014 models started rolling down the assembly line. Not sure if the story is true but it is a 2014 thing.
Car looks great. How much lower did your iat2s get with the new exchanger?
The last clip of the video shows the real time data while driving on the street in 93 degree weather
@@MustangLifestyleTV OK. I see it now. Impressive drop in iat2. I should have got the fans.
Wish I had a friend like Justin.. Lol.
Turn down WAY DOWN, the junk music. I had to ride the volume btn the whole bid -
Dam those fans are so loud
while dbp changes his oil
So... atleast Derek works for his shit. Not like trust fund baby face andy
@@RocafellaAF1 who has a trust fund? Lol
I don’t have a trust fund. I moved out when I was 18 and put myself through College. I work hard. No trust fund here...
And not to throw shade at Derek. But he does live his parents. So maybe check your facts.
Mustang Lifestyle my respects for going to college
It's an aftercooler, not an intercooler!
why haven't you done a GT350 SUPERCHARGER ????????????
Must be nice getting free labor and parts from VMP
he does???🤔
Nothing is free.
You have leak via one of you radiator coolant system somewhere, so get that checked out, its not a hose, but could be just a pin hole will do that, or it could be a pin hole in the radiator as well ,which is leaking coolant and if he picked it up be pressuring the radiator coolant system then you need to check where the leak is coming from full stop, dont know why you just did not get him to check while your there, again its about promotion of various products via u tube without just promoting, because your getting the items installed, i bet that will change soon enough?
I have GT500 and dose not heat soak like that the first run was because the gtr was wrong gear
So why the 2nd and the 3rd barely won. He lives in Florida it's a different deal there .
@@randyjr3479 hes also prob making alot more power than this guy who claims to not have heat soak...hes making over 100 wheel more than stock with no cooling upgrades its common sense
@@michaelharris748 also I have twins and I live in Memphis and cooking is a big ass deal , I think people who don't have upgraded boosted don't realize that's cooling especially a daily is serious definitely in the south , I almost sold mine because I didn't want 2 vehicles.
wish you would let him talk ….wtf frack Justin was being so polite... wow I would like to hear Justin talk you edited him out
you spend alot of time in mexico
You would think he would have a better tan
@@390fe451 lmao
Mine never runs under 125. Ever
total waste of money full stop in florida you should be using a A/C gas type interchiller which will reduce intake temps to around only 5 degrees and even when its 38 degree c days and humidity through the roof the intake temps going by the sensor is only around 3 to 5 degree C compared to 40 degree c temps using the current system lol, plus you get a extra 100hp extra just by using the a/C gas interchiller system and you can use your A/C as well while dragging the car and during winter months you can switch it off or still run it as most people do due to the humidity and the a/C on with the heater on to keep you warm inside the car and also demisting the inside of the windows nothing worse when its raining outside and heater is on and the fob starts to build up due to the hi humidity outside?
That "Race" Footage was super LAME ... On another note, VMP make quality, durable parts that perform very well on the Track 🏁
I'm saving my pennies now for a VMP blower!
Thats gonna be a lot of pennies...
VMPPerformance Lol.. imagine this dude paying with pennies one day
holy shit why is the music so loud smh
First
Your 2nd first I guess lol
First what's up Andrew give me shout out
Sweet v6
wassup
@@everyonewasstealingmynamea919 stop calling my car v6 boy!
Kondrez Brown 3.7 or 4.0?
@@everyonewasstealingmynamea919 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂