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  • Ever wondered what a bunch of holes make a china sound like? Now ya know!
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Комментарии • 571

  • @DrumBeatsOnline
    @DrumBeatsOnline 7 лет назад +414

    You should make a drum set out of china cymbals.

    • @banjomango145
      @banjomango145 7 лет назад +10

      Drum Beats Online yes he should!

    • @rdavidr
      @rdavidr  7 лет назад +84

      here we go again... haha

    • @addigill6095
      @addigill6095 7 лет назад +3

      Agreed

    • @omarpeck4340
      @omarpeck4340 7 лет назад +11

      you two need to colab more

    • @c_townmtg
      @c_townmtg 7 лет назад +7

      rdavidr nah... make one out of rivets.

  • @Lucas-im4sz
    @Lucas-im4sz 7 лет назад +448

    TURN A BASS DRUM INTO A SNARE!!

  • @orobinson7429
    @orobinson7429 7 лет назад +147

    Holy China, you've been down too long in the midnight sea!

    • @supramusic9667
      @supramusic9667 7 лет назад +2

      Oscar robinson -lll Damn Holy Diver

    • @TheEnderBand
      @TheEnderBand 3 года назад +3

      Oh now you’re drumming on meeeee

  • @fejericktorres5539
    @fejericktorres5539 7 лет назад +130

    When drilling cymbals.. you should collect the dust or the drill cuttings or whatever . haha .. then make your own cymbal ..

    • @MAR-wo4mc
      @MAR-wo4mc 7 лет назад +6

      Fejerick Torres there called bronze turnings

    • @BxCortez2050
      @BxCortez2050 4 года назад +2

      You beat me to this

    • @schouten99
      @schouten99 4 года назад +4

      @@BxCortez2050 by 3 years 😅

    • @BxCortez2050
      @BxCortez2050 4 года назад +1

      @@schouten99 .exactly

  • @65Drums
    @65Drums 7 лет назад +165

    I liked the mod, made it sound better

  • @shanemonteiro
    @shanemonteiro 7 лет назад +307

    Hahaha at 1:50 is that intentional how the drill matches the beat?

    • @thomashope373
      @thomashope373 7 лет назад +88

      Probably. David is a genius

    • @burkkis
      @burkkis 7 лет назад +8

      Thomas Hope i don't know how thst's "genius"

    • @_lca_music
      @_lca_music 7 лет назад +6

      i also noticed! it was so f awesome

    • @allenlark
      @allenlark 7 лет назад +48

      it seemed to match harmonically as well as rhythmically

    • @darth6988
      @darth6988 7 лет назад

      Shane Monteiro ikr

  • @hudsonbarth5641
    @hudsonbarth5641 7 лет назад +28

    I think all drummers appreciate how you line the camera changes of the drill up with the song haha

  • @hawkeandbeenie6951
    @hawkeandbeenie6951 7 лет назад +74

    drill holes in the bell of a crash

  • @lucasgalvin6930
    @lucasgalvin6930 7 лет назад +100

    I thought he was gunna make a religious Chinese person

  • @louismastrangelo3781
    @louismastrangelo3781 7 лет назад +87

    I don't particularly like the sound either before or after.

    • @iMatty_2
      @iMatty_2 7 лет назад +7

      Louis Mastrangelo This video makes that China sound not so good, I have it as an auxillary China and I think it sounds great. The video makes it sound really thin, but in person it sounds very full. not a lot of sustain but a full bodied China.

    • @samedits999
      @samedits999 7 лет назад +2

      I personally have the 18" classic custom trash china from meinl and I love it for a mid range cymbal

    • @matrixarsmusicworkshop561
      @matrixarsmusicworkshop561 7 лет назад

      Matt Marshall Like drums always

  • @nicoelgreeko
    @nicoelgreeko 7 лет назад +3

    Higher pitch, slightly more splashy with the holes. I like people playing buckets and pans so really, for me, it's about style and end result. Das good!

  • @locasadist
    @locasadist 7 лет назад +97

    Interesting drill melody

  • @TheWitchOvAgnesi
    @TheWitchOvAgnesi 7 лет назад +2

    The holes definitely improve the attack and bite, absolutely love the Holy China sound, especially in the new mini versions. HOWEVER, Sabian gets broken returns like crazy... I think because of the configuration. So if you make one of these on your own, just do one or two rows of holes depending on the cymbal's size, and stay away from the edge of the cymbal where it turns back down.

  • @kojaniszewski
    @kojaniszewski 7 лет назад +134

    definitely prefer the drilled one :D

    • @kojaniszewski
      @kojaniszewski 7 лет назад +8

      A survivor I dont know man. The regular is too "crashy" for me :D But it's a matter of personal taste :D

    • @Grayham4
      @Grayham4 7 лет назад +3

      MagneticWhistler Zildian chinas are still the best but I agree I like the new one

    • @DavidGamero
      @DavidGamero 7 лет назад +3

      wuhan all the way, way cheaper and SO MUCH BETTER

    • @dawgyo4757
      @dawgyo4757 4 года назад +1

      i like it better not drilled

  • @HHGdrums
    @HHGdrums 7 лет назад +53

    the mad scientist of percussion instruments.... cool video man

    • @rdavidr
      @rdavidr  7 лет назад +6

      haha thanks man

  • @trentdavis1314
    @trentdavis1314 7 лет назад +21

    I've owned many china cymbals in my time (I currently use 4 of them on my setup) and I found that my Sabian AA 17" Holy China is the best I've ever used. It seems that adding the holes quickens the decay and adds a touch more trash. That's what I noticed between the before and after footage other than the simple pitch difference. Awesome video!

  • @geddyknee1633
    @geddyknee1633 7 лет назад +20

    Really liked the background music in this one. Thought the cymbal sounded better with the holes

  • @Nevatis_
    @Nevatis_ 7 лет назад +23

    Drill almost sounds like part of the song

  • @GoFlyYourselves
    @GoFlyYourselves 4 года назад

    Holy China, Batman! You answered my question before you knew I asked it! Thanks!

  • @karpfenkarpfen3623
    @karpfenkarpfen3623 7 лет назад +33

    Without the holes it pretty much sounds like a crash...

  • @willemkossen
    @willemkossen 7 лет назад +14

    Question: regular pattern of holes might favor certain frequencies. Wouldnt a random pattern create more different frequencies therefor changing the sound more dramatically?

    • @the6ig6adwolf
      @the6ig6adwolf 4 года назад

      I've always thought the middle row should have been offset from the outer rows.

  • @ocho611
    @ocho611 7 лет назад

    i did this with a pair of Meinl hats- just 4 holes in a diamond pattern on the bottom cymbal. they already sounded decent, but after they were way better. faster, tighter and crispier, and zero airlock

  • @musik210
    @musik210 7 лет назад

    Nice video. Just found your channel recently and like your work (both youtube vids and soundcloud). Has me looking at my spare parts and found objects in a totally new way. thanks.
    I like the brightness of the china with holes.

  • @drummerwiz10
    @drummerwiz10 7 лет назад

    I love it I think it would make a great stacking cymbal

  • @c_townmtg
    @c_townmtg 7 лет назад +29

    now it now it sounds like a China

    • @juliancwcwcw
      @juliancwcwcw 7 лет назад +13

      Gretsch_Drummer 9377 now it now it does.

    • @c_townmtg
      @c_townmtg 7 лет назад +2

      OddCereal holy crap I'm retarded. lmao 😂

  • @nwdrums24
    @nwdrums24 Год назад

    My favorite video of yours because china's to me are unique you can defintely modify them. I'm gonna get a kinda cheaper china and drill holes then make a stack.

  • @mikec3702
    @mikec3702 7 лет назад +5

    That was clever what you did with the sound of the drill to the rhythm of the song in the background and I think definitely sounds better with the holes given for what sound one would want to use it for

  • @zakswindle
    @zakswindle 5 лет назад

    I did the same thing with a zildjian crash I did the first three holes with a drill, I gave up shortly after and use a 55 ton ironworker punch machine. it took me the same amount of time to drill three holes is it took to punch the other 20 some odd holes.

  • @kimerlend3093
    @kimerlend3093 7 лет назад

    the drilled one is i would prefer. It looked cooler and sounded cooler. Keep up the great work man. ☺!

  • @AndrewEwing1995
    @AndrewEwing1995 7 лет назад

    I heard that the holy china from drummers who using it says that it is the loudest china and most aggressive china they every played and owned.

  • @alexanderlimper3961
    @alexanderlimper3961 7 лет назад

    you even matched the shirt for before and after takes! should get a before and after t shirt so we know which take it is right away

  • @BruhToasty
    @BruhToasty 7 лет назад +1

    The drilled one sounds more dry and trashy I love it

  • @TheStudioDrummer
    @TheStudioDrummer 7 лет назад

    They both sound good lol. I think I like the Holy china better. Unique.
    .

  • @henningbrown5687
    @henningbrown5687 7 лет назад +7

    Love the drill bit/ music match up part, that's pretty neat.

  • @dang1687
    @dang1687 5 лет назад

    I took a 16 in floor tom and through snares on it and turned it into a 16-inch floor snare I'd love to see you make one you do such a good job with your builds I bet you would show me s*** that I missed

  • @TheYeetusLord
    @TheYeetusLord 5 лет назад +1

    This is not your fault David but honestly they both sound so terrible in my opinion. That's in no way a reflection of you and your playing/modifying abilities, it's simply the fact that the cymbal itself sounds awful as a china, again, in my opinion. I love your content man keep up the good work

  • @TheDarkOwlFlies
    @TheDarkOwlFlies 7 лет назад +9

    when you think that its going to be a jesus china

  • @MichaelDBauer
    @MichaelDBauer 7 лет назад +4

    Interesting. The drilled and un-drilled both have their own personalities, so it becomes a matter of choice. I liked the "drilled" a bit better myself. I really enjoy your vids. Keep them coming.

  • @sterlingmaloryarcher6352
    @sterlingmaloryarcher6352 2 года назад

    I like the holy china you made but I think it would sound less thrashy with half the holes.

  • @WhirlwindDrums
    @WhirlwindDrums 7 лет назад

    The cymbal before sounds more like a crash cymbal than a china. I don't know if it's the mix or if the was supposed to like a Sabian AA fast china. Either way. Great video

  • @dietrootbeer_
    @dietrootbeer_ 7 лет назад

    another fire beat

  • @tristanbrown4962
    @tristanbrown4962 7 лет назад +7

    You should make some sick hats like Sabian makes.

  • @disrocker1312
    @disrocker1312 7 лет назад

    As always, AWESOME!

  • @dominicneeson1613
    @dominicneeson1613 7 лет назад

    I asked for this year's ago so happy it finally happend

  • @jayechristian9697
    @jayechristian9697 7 лет назад

    Awesome to see the 30$ drum set . Awesome china bro . You ever do stacks ?

  • @bobtrageser5
    @bobtrageser5 7 лет назад

    try Grombal cymbal inserts too! Very cool!

  • @dang1687
    @dang1687 5 лет назад

    I really enjoyed this video I use the 17in Sabian holy China (love it) and I've always wondered what the difference would be without the holes versus with the holes at I really like the sound that you got when you put the holes in it felt like it was more about trash cany sound And I really like that about it thanks for the video I wonder what would happen if you did that with a crash

  • @Grayham4
    @Grayham4 7 лет назад

    I really like the new one

  • @Mystninja
    @Mystninja 7 лет назад

    my opinion is. the cymbal was better with no holes.
    holy cymbals are generally heavy and made for the holes to be cut.
    the holes add more trash and shorten the sustain. they make good stack bottoms.
    i want to see a stack. made of. a holy china a loud splash in the center and a holy fast crash on top.

  • @TonyMacaroni69_
    @TonyMacaroni69_ 5 лет назад +2

    *Holy china, you've been gone too long in the midnight see, oh don't you see what I mean?*
    Only true metalheads will get the reference🤘🏼DIO

  • @sanmarzano4164
    @sanmarzano4164 6 лет назад

    Amazing music in the background. What’s the name of this soulful track?

  • @Assimilator702
    @Assimilator702 7 лет назад +2

    It seemed choked before the holes. Too high pitched for that cymbal, like the cymbal needed to shed some weight. Hammering could possibly have the same results. It would have been nice to hear it with only 1/2 the holes. Find out at which point the sound starts to noticeably change.

  • @Dad420
    @Dad420 7 лет назад

    I love your content I have just found you and subscribed

  • @dinospd
    @dinospd 7 лет назад

    Both videos have clearly different EQs... it's impossible to take conclusions out of them.

  • @tobyearth
    @tobyearth 6 лет назад +2

    I'd love to see this experiment with crash, ride and high hats too.
    Really love watching all your cymbal work and would love more. That said, almost all of your videos are great.

  • @ManelWoodcutterSong
    @ManelWoodcutterSong 7 лет назад +1

    you should try making a low volume cymbal just like zildjian's L80 series, it would be fun to watch! love your vids man

  • @slademoore8679
    @slademoore8679 7 лет назад

    What if you put tambourine jingles in the holes? Would it give a rivet type sound or a ching ring type sound?

  • @garykent8193
    @garykent8193 Год назад

    Before sounded way better!! The holes lowered the pitch way to much. It also has a funky decay now!

  • @christraven
    @christraven 6 лет назад +2

    Would've been interesting to keep about 1/4 of the rivets in and then make the rest of the holes the larger radius, but I think the end result worked out pretty cool.

  • @kanesanders6669
    @kanesanders6669 3 года назад +1

    The most un-china sounding china I've heard. I really like my Sabian AXXtreme.

  • @deniskarlash
    @deniskarlash 4 года назад +1

    The sound got better. It is softer, lower, and even sustain has become longer. But this china is a bad example for an upgrade. Sabian B8 pro would be best.

  • @shmowzow458
    @shmowzow458 7 лет назад

    hey rdavidr, love your videos. I was wondering, what's your thought on buddy rich and Big Band?

  • @Duro83
    @Duro83 7 лет назад +1

    Congrats. You managed to make a Classics china sound playable. Horrid series of cymbals.

  • @luvmedrums4057
    @luvmedrums4057 Месяц назад

    Bought a 18" Sabian B8 China for $40.Drilled same pattern as this&also drilled 3/4" holes on outside bend.
    Lathed it down b4 I did holes.
    Became a favorite with my band.
    Then,it got stolen😢

  • @chriskiefer7493
    @chriskiefer7493 11 месяцев назад

    Sounds darker!

  • @davidjames1684
    @davidjames1684 6 лет назад +1

    I know an Asian priest drummer that would be interested in your holy China cymbal.

  • @invictuszznz6896
    @invictuszznz6896 7 лет назад

    overall I prefer the version with the holes in it, but as a ride I think the non drilled version sounded better.

  • @MeTuLHeD
    @MeTuLHeD 7 лет назад +3

    Bro! You had all the mics set up already. Why not a proper recording rather than camera audio?
    Also...generally speaking...less material/lighter cymbal = lower pitch. Hence the lower and darker sound of thin cymbals compared to medium or heavy/rock cymbals.

    • @rdavidr
      @rdavidr  7 лет назад +16

      its not the camera audio...

    • @MeTuLHeD
      @MeTuLHeD 7 лет назад +2

      Oh. Sorry. It didn't sound like your past recordings of drums with overheads. Sorry.

  • @rongaro
    @rongaro 7 лет назад

    I like how the China sounded with the holes! It sounds a lot more trashier to me. Can you do one with a 18 inch Wuhan cymbal

  • @sneedville80
    @sneedville80 7 лет назад +2

    thought the cymbal sounded better with the holes in it. Cool idea, keep up the cool videos!

  • @halseyballistic
    @halseyballistic 7 лет назад +1

    Definitely has a darker sound. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and showing the drum community this experiment.

  • @Mazemonster333
    @Mazemonster333 7 лет назад +3

    I didn't know Hagrid could play drums

  • @ianrosales4390
    @ianrosales4390 5 лет назад

    Can i have that experimented china? Hahaha. Perfect for a stacks. :)

  • @victor.lucasz
    @victor.lucasz 7 лет назад +1

    What is the name of the song that plays in 1:08?

  • @reesecunningham7187
    @reesecunningham7187 5 лет назад

    I like that meinl ride you've got there can I get specs on it I'd like to get myself one

  • @jaythedrummer8820
    @jaythedrummer8820 4 года назад +1

    Turn a Snare into a Symbol stack

  • @MrNikolab
    @MrNikolab 7 лет назад +1

    first time when i like your cymbal tuning!

  • @seantierson2633
    @seantierson2633 7 лет назад

    try drilling the bell- should make it dryer

  • @aidencoxmusicguy5097
    @aidencoxmusicguy5097 3 года назад +1

    Everyone asks what the holes do not how the holes are doing

  • @ultrahero2115
    @ultrahero2115 7 лет назад +1

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos Dave. Have you ever produced for any local rappers or anything? You have a ton of talent.

  • @theprinceoffreshair
    @theprinceoffreshair 7 лет назад +1

    The cymbal still sounds pretty bad but it sounds a lot better than before great video btw!

  • @DrewKane
    @DrewKane 7 лет назад +1

    I expected it to be a bit more trashy. Perhaps a light top hammering with a large hammer would spruce it up a little. Hell, you could throw a couple of those rivets back on it or stack it with a splash.

  • @PurpleToons1
    @PurpleToons1 7 лет назад +2

    hahah the drilling went along with the song for a few seconds

  • @girlspooptoo8567
    @girlspooptoo8567 6 лет назад

    I think it would sound good if you had one of each
    It sounded really good with the back and forth of the two cymbals
    Thanks I love your videos

  • @Thejesusfreak27
    @Thejesusfreak27 7 лет назад +1

    I was watching this and I just realized I wasn't subscribed so there ya go. I'm more or so a guitar player but I love watching your videos I've been watching for like 9 months. Sorry I wasn't subscribed. :)

  • @hoochrocks
    @hoochrocks 7 лет назад +7

    Interesting, but I prefer the before sound.

  • @Jakodrums
    @Jakodrums 7 лет назад

    I liked the "holy" china better. What would happen if you would put some cymbal above it? like.. a stack?

  • @boomtech8
    @boomtech8 7 лет назад

    diggin ya mpc 2000 shirt

  • @gordrum
    @gordrum 6 лет назад

    @rdavidr Looking to modify a horribly thick 20" Zildjian ride from the 60s. Do you recommend lots of small holes or several big (o-zone) holes?? Thanks!

  • @Drumistry
    @Drumistry 7 лет назад

    How is it that i cant seem to stop watching your videos? 😱

  • @parkermurray7435
    @parkermurray7435 7 лет назад +3

    Notice the original sound Sample is so old that he's using the vintage tom before he rebuilt it.

  • @najtrows
    @najtrows 7 лет назад +1

    i have that meinl classic 18 china and think it sounds great without modding actually :D

  • @ScapezMusic
    @ScapezMusic 7 лет назад

    Have you ever considered selling multiple velocity samples of your kits David? I'd buy one with fx cymbals in!

  • @michaelsheedy7019
    @michaelsheedy7019 6 лет назад +1

    I thought the video was cool but i generally dont like smaller chinas

  • @the6ig6adwolf
    @the6ig6adwolf 7 лет назад +1

    I think if the holes in the middle row had been staggered the sound would have changed more significantly.

  • @apocalypseforeshadowing8016
    @apocalypseforeshadowing8016 7 лет назад +1

    you made this video the day I decided to buy a 21 inch holy china!?!?!?

  • @mattm4156
    @mattm4156 7 лет назад +1

    Stave snare shell in the background, will it be in a future video?

  • @logannewhouse2896
    @logannewhouse2896 7 лет назад

    Do I see a stave drum in the back at the very beginning? I've been waiting forever for you to do a stave drum build video! But if you didn't build that shell then you need to build one.

  • @solorider6229
    @solorider6229 5 лет назад

    Nice video man!
    i bought that exactly china together with a 15 china and a 12 splash, the truth is that the big china sounds horrible!

  • @RoeShamBoe
    @RoeShamBoe 7 лет назад

    I also expected more of a difference. what about enlarging some of the holes?