@jayjolley9258 I've a router and use it for LED strip in exsisting wooden cabinets. I charge a fortune to do it however, as its normally high end customers looking something like that. Something like this is 💯 the kitchen fitters responsibility and I make sure the customer and kitchen fitter knows this before I start
A wee tip, buy a guided bit (one with bearings) or guide bush, will make using and probably making jigs easier and less chance of accidentally going too far and or buy a laser cutter or wood CNC like the ooznest workbee to make the jigs. Also you should check out the bench dogs router base, not sure it fits the 1/2" but they do Milwaukee bases either way. Recently bought the 1/4" for my work to use for hinge jigs when replacing doors or making jigs for other stuff
Does that router not have different size guide collars, they fit into the base plate then you just need the template with out the bulky additional wood bits
If only you messaged me about this idea. All you need is a guide bush that attaches to the router. Depending on what one you get and bit you use you can just use double sided tape to stick on a hand cut rectangle of material. It would just need to be thicker than the guide bush. You could make it as a template also but without the hassle of what your trying to do.
Bearing guided bits just add more hassle. The good brands are expensive and the cheap ones easily seize up leaving lovely black burn marks around your work. The flush trim router bits you are on about are for someone that uses them every week. A guide bush can be used for all sorts of different standard bits you already have.
@@T-Wrex1864 How does removing the compensation for a guide bush add hassle? For this job they're about £25 for a decent quality bit. And as for 'that you already have', Nick didn't have anything..
Use a trimming cutter, apply a fence to the edge of where you are cutting using double sided tape. Cut the opening, no screw holes in board preserves the finish of the surface.
Just get the kitchen fitter to counter batten off the end of the unit, then fit the end panel and you can run your cables under the units and up to the void to the patrice....? Fitter can then fit a infill piece to front of unit/end panel...
Would you not be getting the kitchen fitter to do this? If I was doing a lot of these I could justify spending £250 (£300 inc VAT) not including some sort of extraction. Look forward to see you using it at the kitchen
You want to be careful of tear out on that end panel. If you want a clean finish then score the finished side as deep as you can with a knife first so as to break that surface, otherwise your router is likely to chip the finished panel to bits. Trial your jig on a melamine sheet before using it on the customers kitchen panel if you want to see what I mean. I’d also recommend a compression cutting pattern bit which will save you having to make such a huge jig. You can just screw your wooden batons around the outside of the back box.
Ben from Crimson Guitars has a great “superglue and masking tape” trick you might really value for your jig ☺️ (Long and short of it - he has YT videos showing it - masking tape on your jig, masking tape on the surface you want the jig temporarily attached to, use superglue on the back of the two pieces of masking tape to adhere the jig. When done - masking tape allows you to pull the jig off [and any remaining tape] without leaving a trace.)
I try to dissuade customers from having sockets in end panels. It's an absolute certainty that one day a child is going to pull a hot fryer or boiling kettle onto itself. If they say go ahead anyway, what can you do?
Whatever are you doing making it so complicated. Once you have the correct shaped hole, just use a "Follow" bit which will follow the edge of the hole in your template.
Hi Nick. Are you aware of a new NEC code stating that sockets cannot be installed on the ends of kitchen islands? Have a read and let me know as I’m sure this impacts your plan. What is the new 2023 NEC code? Section 210.52(C)(3) of the 2023 NEC code requires that: "Kitchen receptacle outlets in islands and peninsulas must be installed on or above countertop or work surfaces and if a receptacle outlet is not provided, provisions must be provided for the addition of a receptacle outlet in the future."
Use the final cut-out version as your template with a top bearing mortise bit in the router ,job done .
Blimey Nick, if you do woodwork you will have to clean up properly too-unlike most sparks !! Neat job with that jig, nice one.
Sounds like the kitchen fitters job to me 😂
I'm one minute in and thinking what could a spark need a router for 😂 just ask the kitchen fitter to do it 😅
You guys don't realise Nick actually wants a nice finish 😂
Imagine screwing it up 🤯
@jayjolley9258 I've a router and use it for LED strip in exsisting wooden cabinets. I charge a fortune to do it however, as its normally high end customers looking something like that.
Something like this is 💯 the kitchen fitters responsibility and I make sure the customer and kitchen fitter knows this before I start
You did it well on your first try! It's good to take your time, play around and create a jig. 👍👌
Thanks for all the fun videos Nick, happy new year to you and yours!
A wee tip, buy a guided bit (one with bearings) or guide bush, will make using and probably making jigs easier and less chance of accidentally going too far and or buy a laser cutter or wood CNC like the ooznest workbee to make the jigs. Also you should check out the bench dogs router base, not sure it fits the 1/2" but they do Milwaukee bases either way. Recently bought the 1/4" for my work to use for hinge jigs when replacing doors or making jigs for other stuff
Blimey Nick absolutely spot on finish with that jig….. not many people would take that time and effort 👍
Another great video Nick Happy New year to you and all your family
Hi Nick, Hope you are well, do you still have a discount code for expert electrical? Cheers
If you buy a copying ring for your router you can make your template smaller.
Does that router not have different size guide collars, they fit into the base plate then you just need the template with out the bulky additional wood bits
If only you messaged me about this idea. All you need is a guide bush that attaches to the router. Depending on what one you get and bit you use you can just use double sided tape to stick on a hand cut rectangle of material. It would just need to be thicker than the guide bush. You could make it as a template also but without the hassle of what your trying to do.
Why mess around with a guide bush and having to account for it when you can just use a bearing guided bit?
Bearing guided bits just add more hassle. The good brands are expensive and the cheap ones easily seize up leaving lovely black burn marks around your work. The flush trim router bits you are on about are for someone that uses them every week. A guide bush can be used for all sorts of different standard bits you already have.
@@T-Wrex1864 How does removing the compensation for a guide bush add hassle?
For this job they're about £25 for a decent quality bit. And as for 'that you already have', Nick didn't have anything..
Use a trimming cutter, apply a fence to the edge of where you are cutting using double sided tape. Cut the opening, no screw holes in board preserves the finish of the surface.
Couldn't you find a longer extension when you screwing those screw. , surely it would have been safer if you were on a step ladder 8ft of the ground
have you got any tips on how to get an apprentiship I've been searching for 2 years and I haven't even been considered
Just get the kitchen fitter to counter batten off the end of the unit, then fit the end panel and you can run your cables under the units and up to the void to the patrice....? Fitter can then fit a infill piece to front of unit/end panel...
Much like the jig you made....
Would you not be getting the kitchen fitter to do this? If I was doing a lot of these I could justify spending £250 (£300 inc VAT) not including some sort of extraction. Look forward to see you using it at the kitchen
You want to be careful of tear out on that end panel. If you want a clean finish then score the finished side as deep as you can with a knife first so as to break that surface, otherwise your router is likely to chip the finished panel to bits. Trial your jig on a melamine sheet before using it on the customers kitchen panel if you want to see what I mean.
I’d also recommend a compression cutting pattern bit which will save you having to make such a huge jig. You can just screw your wooden batons around the outside of the back box.
volume still low mate, have to turn it up for yours, and then down for others... good vid tho
Get yourself a straight guided profiler router cutter bit and youll make jigs with ease.
Why is the volume so low on recent videos.
You need to allow for a collar on the router to follow the jig so the hole in the jig for the back box needs to be bigger
Ben from Crimson Guitars has a great “superglue and masking tape” trick you might really value for your jig ☺️
(Long and short of it - he has YT videos showing it - masking tape on your jig, masking tape on the surface you want the jig temporarily attached to, use superglue on the back of the two pieces of masking tape to adhere the jig. When done - masking tape allows you to pull the jig off [and any remaining tape] without leaving a trace.)
If you would’ve got a flush cutting bit you could’ve done the actual size
Ain't this where you need Robin Clevett
Beat me to it. Robin has some excellent 'how to' videos on caroentry and routing out.
I try to dissuade customers from having sockets in end panels. It's an absolute certainty that one day a child is going to pull a hot fryer or boiling kettle onto itself. If they say go ahead anyway, what can you do?
It’s for a laptop mate, but I get what you’re saying.
Have you ever seen a multi tool
Before you router the panel, Stanley the laminate.
Nick the chippy 👏
Whatever are you doing making it so complicated.
Once you have the correct shaped hole, just use a "Follow" bit which will follow the edge of the hole in your template.
He is learning.
I believe that's a half inch router not that it matters.
Kitchen fitters job, one wrong move and you got new panels to pay for.
Fitters job that
a router (rooter) routes (roots) and a router (rowter) routes (rowts) lol
Yeah, How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
I could have done a better job with an axe
Just kidding Nick..
Yoo good job mate 😂
Should have made the chippy cut it out
They are both routers. Rooters are pigs rooting around in the dirt. Or a tool that plumbers use to clean out pipes. Roto-rooter.
Sockets in end panels NO. // no matter what the customer wants..../ YOU will have to live with it... when a child is scarred for life...
Please elaborate Tony, what child is getting scarred for life?
love vids but dewalt is better
Hi Nick. Are you aware of a new NEC code stating that sockets cannot be installed on the ends of kitchen islands?
Have a read and let me know as I’m sure this impacts your plan.
What is the new 2023 NEC code?
Section 210.52(C)(3) of the 2023 NEC code requires that:
"Kitchen receptacle outlets in islands and peninsulas must be installed on or above countertop or work surfaces and if a receptacle outlet is not provided, provisions must be provided for the addition of a receptacle outlet in the future."
Correct me if I am wrong but is NEC not a USA thing? Nick is a UK thing lol
Being a US requirement explains socket being described as receptacle instead of an outlet.
It's not relevant at all, this isn't the US and the NEC doesn't apply. So no, Nick won't be aware of it..
He's an American, did any of expect him to notice Nick was fitting a UK socket and Nick lives in the UK
@Oliverwarren8926 I think you owe Nick an apology.
I can’t believe you have not done it this way up till now