Apple WatchOS 10 Topographic Mapping: Public Beta Hands-on!
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Hands-on with Apple WatchOS 10 and the new topographic map feature to see how it actually works, both the good and the bad.
In this video I dive into how to access the maps, where the maps are available, and where they aren't. Plus the trailhead feature, how to route and to do navigation within the maps, and everything else you might want to know about the Apple WatchOS 10 topo maps on the Apple Watch (Apple Watch Ultra in this case).
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Really hope apple does more with maps with the Ultra when 10 is finally released. Would love to not depend on the iPhone.
This video looks vaguely familiar. Great video Ray and I enjoyed figuring this stuff out with you last month. 👌
Well, that is way more limited than I expected, even for a beta version. This is just a phone navigation that pushes directions to your watch.
Welcome to Apple 😂
Apple engineers thought process on this is probably that you will have your Iphone with you in your pack since it does have some rudimentary satellite and SOS features, therefore your phone can run the maps for your watch. They don't quite understand the thought process behind why you might want your watch and phone to be functionally separate during off-grid activities, similarly to how they don't understand why if you are planning a 2-3 day hike you might want a navigation capable watch that lasts for a week or more.
One of the things that tanks my Fenix's battery fast is frequently using the maps on it so I'm also wondering if the workload wasn't put off on to the more powerful phone to preserve the AWU's already short battery.
The AWU is definitely a weekend warrior watch, and that's okay because I'm betting most Fenix/Epix watches do far less exciting things than marketing would make you believe. Mine certainly has never been to the top of everest and hasn't done more than a weeklong camping trip in known parks, though I love the built in nav on it, better than Google Maps once cell drops lol.
But I thought the main strength of the AWU being a true smartwatch was not having to have your iPhone with you... but I do if I want to use maps. Mixed messages or what 😮
So I’m happy about the offline maps and can live with having my phone with. I just hope we get route planning and navigation. I can even deal with switching between apps, it’s just a double tap on the crown. But no Route upload is a deal breaker.
Still so limited compared to using workoutdoors. I will be sticking to that I am sure!
Incluso desde hace años con Workoutdoors ya podía conectar los sensores de la bicicleta
So I’m still far better off using “Work Out Doors” app.
It seems that Apple may get it right in next 12 to 15 months.
It seems to me that the work outdoors app is far superior to anything coming in the future from Apple for outdoor activities .
It’s a start, but still very limited. Also, it’s quite weird that they didn’t integrated the map with the workout native app 😅
They didn’t even put it on the iPhone…I don’t get it.
It is cool to see you demoing something so close to where I live, I always go to Ranch San Antonio for hikes. 😊
Apple developers should use a Garmin Watch
Agreed. I think apple could kill it if they paid attention.
They are and have been killing it by not overfocusing on the comparatively small market of hardcore sports watches users. Listening too hard to this niche crowd would be a mistake for them as this crowd does not speak for their main market. That's why they're only starting to get to it now, at the 8th generation of the watch, and even now slowly. Speaking as a forerunner 955 owner but from a product & market point of view it's silly to cater to the 1% and their demanding needs. The 1% pays 1% of the money but asks for 50% of the functionality.
@andreipostolache I don't disagree but it's a simple fix to put the maps in the workout activity for example
@@kistovisbackI completely agree- although, with their new focus with the Ultra, I am beyond ecstatic to see how this develops over the next several years
@@austinslater4773the best feature of Garmin is stability. Apple Watch apps crash not infrequently. Over a 15 hour race it needs to be bullet proof.
Great review. I love the Watch Ultra and watchOS 10
Yes Apple we'll bring a server strapped to our backs for the next run in the hills keep up the good work 😂
I'll be sticking with Garmin
you'll be 'coping' with garmin. That's the word, and telling this a fenix 6pro user since 2020!
@@igorwerry I switched from an Apple watch to a fenix 7 and its a world of difference. I despised my apple watch, I was just coping with it.
Tripping.
@@shaneanagrams I didn't say it doesn't work both ways :D
When are the topographic maps going to be available? (or do I just not know how to access them?)
Santa Cruz is in da house!!! Whoop! Whoop! 🌊
In the release version of Watch OS 10, I’m not seeing topo maps for either the Cascades in OR or the Catskills in NY. This is on a Series 8 Watch; it’s possible Maps is different on an Ultra but I haven’t tested that.
Not very well integrated since you can't use it in the workout app. You should think Apple could do much better. Garmin is still way ahead.
Purchased latest Ultra. Can't see the topo contour information on my downloaded maps. No option to select the contour resolution. Limited capability.
I saw Mt.Hood Parkdale cached on your maps, did you happen to visit or is that just some random testing? There's some great riding out there (both road and mtb) and some long-standing KoMs held by the cookie man himself. highly recommended
It was just random testing. At the time I was trying to figure out where the 'line' was in respect to available maps, so I was trying popular west coast spots that would likely have it. That said, grew up going to Mt. Hood quite a bit since I lived in Seattle. Awesome stuff!
So if u go for hiking can u use ultra to navigate without your phone and network?
So apple is laging behind the competion because it doesnt route back. Still like thw drop a pin function.
Nice speedy review vid! Wonder if you would test the integration with cycling power meters?
Already deep down that rabbit hole!
I felt like I was going to miss out because I just switched to a fenix 6… guess I didn’t have anything to worry about
Comparing ultra 2 to epix gen 2 which do u prefer?
What if I set a pin which is not on a track? Does it still navigation?
Can’t believe apple still use that aweful floating circle menu system!
Exciting start! Interested to see this fuse with hiking in a more cohesive way than double-tapping the crown to swap between workout and maps. Also eagerly awaiting the SwiftUI release of WorkOutDoors
With watchOS 10, you can't double tap to switch between apps anymore. It now opens up the app switcher
all we want is gpx import
When is Australia getting topo maps?
It's funny that two different routes connecting the same points have different climb numbers (900/1200 ft).
One way has a moderate hill, one has a bigger hill
Why does the navigation assume that you always want to drive? Very odd choice for a sports oriented watch...
Can you please help me about the maps?when you got the offline maps and you want to use them or just use the gps to see your location you open in Apple
Watch ultra the location on only?or you open also on iPhone?also you have to have the Bluetooth connected?
Have you figured out how to import TrainingPeaks workouts yet? It doesn't seem to work in Beta 8 yet. I can't find it.
Can you drop two pins that connect each other, thereby creating a route ie, start to finish?
Drank the koolAid years ago and have an iPhone but no incentive, compelling functionality, etc., for me to “convert” from Garmin sports watches …
I just downloaded the beta. Why is the alarm clock logo on the very top of my screen? Won’t go away
Why isn’t it on the iPhone? I hate holding my arm up and looking at my wrist for more than a couple seconds.
And the fact that it basically depends on the downloaded map on my iPhone cause most of the trails I like to hike I don’t have phone service, I know it’s loading the topographical map from the iPhone. So it’s stored on the iPhone, yet you can’t view it on the iPhone. Wtf @apple
They’ll release offline maps on Apple Watch and topographical maps on iPhone next year and call it new.
It doesn’t work right? Imagine an Apple Watch Series 5 on WatchOS 10 and an iPhone 8 non compatible with iOS 17. It doesn’t work either?
I wonder if this is design limitation or designer limitation, but either way it kind of seems like Apple is struggling to figure out who is AUW actually for. If they want to appeal to outdoor crowd, the hikers, the trail runners, etc... the obvious quick win is the ability to read GPX files. You don't even need anything fancy, basic offline topo + GPX track would satisfy large majority of outdoor crowd imho.
What they're doing seems like kind of pointless. Who goes on a trail and at the last minute uses the watch to find a route for them???? You sit at home, map the route you want to take, then want the watch to follow that path.
For those using the public beta of Watch OS 10 on the Ultra , how has the battery been for you ? Thinking about installing it.
About the same or better actually
battery is fine on AWU. iphone ios 17 however does take a battery hit. im seeing about 20-30% faster rate of battery usage after installing beta.
Anyone else having issues with topographical info not showing up even when moving to the mountains?
Would be nice to know if the topo maps are coming also to the Apple Watch 8 and SE 2022?
Yes. Anything above Watch 4
Has the training peaks workout sync appeared on the public beta?
It’s in there, but TrainingPeaks hasn’t released their beta app yet.
Great
How do you delete old race routes?
This is cool! Any plans to dive into the power meter support on WatchOS 10?
Yup, tomorrow!
If it only had a bigger battery
That is a spectacularly bad implementation. Apple really do need to get their game on.
And it's now a bit laughable to say the Ultra is at all Ultra when you have to hace your phone there for routing!😂
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This is so Apple-esque limited and complicated - so "garage tuning" as we say. Mountain lions? Come on, do maps, trails not mountain lion spotting areas :)
Topo. Is just clunky
Seriously unimpressed by this. What a waste of an amazing processor.
I think Garmin will lose the watch game ((
If Garmin integrates cellular in Fenix/Epix a lot of people will keep Garmin. That‘s the only thing missing.
this doesn't get anywhere close to the polish of using maps while hiking with a garmin fenix.
Judging by this, that's not going to happen soon.
Not with that awful battery life on the AW
@@foetorwouldn't mind an LTE Fenix but I doubt it would work for me anyway. I refuse to have a traditional phone contract and do prepaid plans. Cheaper and I don't have to deal with Verizon or AT+Ts BS while getting basically the same service quality. Actually I think I'd rather they take it a step further, instead of LTE I'd rather they build in satellite communication. Imagine not necessarily being able to take calls, but be guaranteed you'll see texts anywhere, any time and have constant weather updates even outside of service. Much more valuable than calls to me, enough so that on the next sale, hopefully before my October trip, I'll be buying an inreach messenger.
Currently venu 2, fr 245 music. garmin update policy - seriously thinking about switching to apple watch - biggest obstacle battery life...
Not useable. Why have a powerhouse watch like the Ultra and still need your phone? These features aren’t ready for beta!
even watch 6-8 should be capable of navigation without phone. The difference to ultra is marginal 😅
Specially in comparison to garmin.