Is Kvothe The Son of Iax? | Kingkiller Chronicle Theory
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What if I told you, Kvothe is a direct descendant of one of the most powerful figures in the history of the Four Corners, a legendary shaper named Iax. Iax is the one who sparked the entire creation war and is now locked behind the doors of stone. I’m going to go over several theories in depth so make sure to watch until the end!
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0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Sponsor
3:28 - Who is Iax?
6:34 - The Story of Jax
8:22 - Broken House Theory
10:29 - Creation of Fae
11:20 - Hermit/Tinker Theories
12:45 - Kvothe Mirrors Jax
13:53 - Dark and Changin Eye
14:49 - Kvothe is Lackless Theory
16:53 Lackless Rhyme
18:11 - Dream Theory
20:18 - Lackless Door Theory
21:28 - Loeclos Box Theory
22:53 - Chronicler Theory
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Every time someone correctly predicts the plot... Patrick completely rewrites The Doors of Stone.
Seems plausible 😭
No wonder it's taking so long.
I wonder if writers will sometimes read about theories and decide those are better than his original idea and then uses those instead
Kvothe's greatest folly was believing that three book deal he signed was real.
oof
😂😂😂
Facts
Ha! ha ha ha ha ha. That might be the greatest thing I've ever heard about it.
Now I need fanart of rothfuss and kvothe debating the deal across the table.
Don't worry, I am sure Patrick will do the right thing and choose a good writer to finish the book after he dies
I e had this theory, and I don’t know if I’ve seen it before on the internet, that the Cthaeh is Ecanis, and the tree it “lives in” has grown over the iron wheel Tehlu sealed him under.
The reason Kvothe’s name from the Adem means “broken tree” is because he’s going to be the one to set Ecanis free.
The internment of the specific tree limbs that needed to be added to the pit!! ooooooh :O
I hold that the division of the Luckless family into the Lackless and the Lochees was actually a split in the family to protect their old purposes. They kept Jax imprisoned behind the doors of stone. One family hid the location of the doors themselves, and as such could not have the key, hence “lackeys” which Caudicus mentioned. The other become Lackless or “lockless” because they have the key. They only think it’s because of that box that doesn’t use a lock.
Interesting thought
Ahhhh, but will anyone ever find out
Very cool idea
U r a mf genius
If Kvothe is truly Iax's son...then that would explain why he was able to resist Felurian's influence in the first place. I know it's a controversial thing amongst the fandom, but if we know Felurian never left a man alive when they were "getting it on", the fact that Kvothe was able to not only resist her fae influence, but also speak her true name, could mean that when he came in contact with the Fae Realm for the first time the blood of Iax "awakened" in him, allowing him to do things that not even normal Fae could do, such as sneaking past The Sithe or quickly learning the names of other elements, as spoken by Kvothe in The Rings' Rhyme
Spot on, though I imagine the Sithe were stood down by other forces to allow the meeting to take place.
Good call!
@@SingingSealRiana I mean, what's really going on here? Why did Felurian allow Kvothe to leave? Why was she sad at their parting, but ultimately allowed it to take place? Someone/s want Kvothe to be fired as an arrow by the Cthaeh to unleash forces unto Temerant.
@@Undeadmgmt Good point. Interesting to imagine what the sith fear more than the Chateah
Also, I think we should not assume that Iax is the bad guy. It is very possible that his "stealing" of the moon, was in fact much more voluntary. After all, we see Kvote lure out Auri, and we see him give her a new name (in fact perhaps shaping her) and it is likely that whatever happened between Iax and the moon was a similarly happy occasion and that Iax did not steal part of her name, but just gave her a new one (thus changing her nature) just like Kvote did with Auri. Iax was defeated, so the story we are hearing is the story told by the victors (Iax enemies). It changes the whole story if Iax and the moon were actualy in love. and there were simply many forces who did not want them to be together.
Gives me R+L=J vibes...
Also when Iax asked for the name of the moon the moon was ready to give him more than that. It really could be something that happened with some degree of consent
“My girlfriend turned into the moon.”
@@alphabetsoup6681 "That's rough buddy"
Nice! I was thinking about this parallels, as well. This fits so well with Auri representing the moon, Kvothe naming her and she staying in the underthing.
Patrick is the 8th Chandrian, him not finishing the third book is forcing people to go crazy
I think there's no better evidence that the chandrian are actually the good guys than that secret book being the ONE reference to them that is totally positive. I'm pretty dang convinced that Kvothe is the worst subject of confirmation bias in the entire world and just like how he blames Ambrose for literally everything that happens to him even though there's shockingly little evidence that he is, he is primed to believe the worst about the chandrian and be predisposed to being in favor of the bloody handed amyr with the literal slogan of "for the greater good" lol. Like "are we the baddies? we literally depict ourselves with blood on our hands and have the motto of a villain"
Personally, I think that the reason his blood is so special "the son who brings the blood" isn't just that he has Iax's blood, because all Lacklesses would. I think it's because the Edema Ruh have at least one direct bloodline to Illien, and if Arliden (assuming he is Kvothes biological father) is a direct descent of Illien, that would make Kvothe possibly the only person in the world with Iax and Illien blood.
I like this idea better than Iax getting it on with his great-great l-great, etc granddaughter & birthing Kvothe, who’d be both his great-great-great-great etc grandson AND his son. That gives me the ick.
Your videos give me life. They get me SO HYPED for the next book and make me want to re-read NOTW and WMF for the billionth time. Thank you for all the time and heart you put into these.
It's 2022, people are still making King Killer theory videos and they are still very popular.
3rd book still hasn't released. if you read this in the future, I hope it's after you read the doors of stone and I hope it had a satisfying ending.
Hello from the last day of April, 2024! Sadly, not yet...
These videos are always amazing! They are one of the few things that make the (long) wait for book 3 bearable. I would love if you did regular videos covering some more of the ideas that come out of the reddit (both tinfoil and not). Keep up the great work!
As always, great video. Reminds me why I fell in love with KKC in the first place
regarding the dream theory: This is amazing and definitely something to think about!
I want to point out that Laclith (the woodcrafts men that joined Kvothe's troupe for some time when he was young) might very well also be part of a Lackless branch (something to to with stone, like doors of stone ...?) and thus might have further significance in occuring in this special Feriniel like dream, telling Kvothe the things he needs to know.
Best video yet! You've managed to tie together so many loose ends of my own theories with Iax being Kvothe's father. I've been convinced for a long time Laurian ran away with Arliden, but not because of love. That came after. She was fleeing something. Now if you can nail down the last thing puzzling me...What happend to Lyra? Perhaps she never died and is actually Haliax. Selitos was fooled by Lanre's appearance. Also, Selitos was among the most powereful shapers, but was bested by Lanre?? Not unless it was actually Lyra in disguise. Just a thought.
I love these videos, Jay. No matter how many times I've listened these books (15+ each of the two) you always point out something I hadn't caught yet. Or you bring up a lot of good "food for thought"
100% agree, his take unearths some incredible theories and insights.
I do suggest actually reading the books.
Who listens to books?!?! Especially a masterpiece such as this **SMH*
@@swyftninja8833 I DO
Love the ideas presented in this! I love stories that have this much lore and deep world building that you can get lost in ideas that are equally fantastical and plausible.
Wow.. GREAT video and this reminds me exactly why these books are in another league. People can say what they want about the accessibility of this story but the sheer amount of layers, puzzles and mysteries buried in these texts is exactly why it takes so long for one man to write them. (And also why they go way over the heads of some readers who need everything spoonfed to them.) These are such meticulously constructed patterns that would take genius-level analyses to unlock.. and I LOVE how deep and real that makes the story, to say nothing of how beautiful the writing is. It's another level beyond and I am very confident Rothfuss is still on his way to a masterpiece of a trilogy.
Personally, I'm not even sure that Kvothe isn't just Iax himself, reborn.. (or maybe Taborlin the great before getting sent backwards in time, haha) that this story is repeating itself endlessly throughout history, unmaking and remaking the world. Who knows? Maybe Kvothe will become the main villain in the potential series after it all ends. Rothfuss has some tricks up his sleeve yet.
(P.S. I just finished reading everything in Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere books and he literally couldn't build a decent mystery if his life depended on it. I figured out every plot twist and reveal either many chapters or even several books before they happen. Kingkiller mostly avoided that for me and that is a huge reason why I hold it in such high regard-I LOVE being fooled or led down into red herrings. I LOVE not being able to figure it out.. the sense of doubt and anticipation is just exquisite and irreplaceable. Not to dump on Sanderson cause his books are definitely fun but.. come on, with the speed he writes his stuff, the difference in quality is enormous. Rothfuss may be a perfectionist.. but it is absolutely worth the wait to read it all again and finally see the full picture. I cannot wait for DoS! ... but I will.)
Im currently rereading the books so im glad youre making so many kingkiller videos!
Great theory! Whether or not Iax is Kvothe's father, I definitely subscribe to the idea that someone in the fey is, at the very least
I realy loved this Theory. And honestly these are the exect same hints Patrick Rothfuss tends to leave in his amazing Books.
*Patricks ghostwriter tends to leave in those amazing books.
I always had the impression that Kvothe + Denna mirrored Lanre + Lyra in some deep way.
Which may just translate into the Lanre -> Haliax (possessed by Iax) theory, and also kind of fits with your thoughts.
How so? they where a very close knitted power couple and denna and Kvothe are very much not, they are not even a couple as fare as we know
@@SingingSealRiana Its not a perfect correspondence, more like a "high level" thought I had when reading.
@@SingingSealRiana Yeah I mean from everything we know about Kvothe and Denna it doesn't seem like they will ever end up together. Maybe they become a couple eventually for a short period but then it obviously goes wrong.
It's all "The Same Story"
@@RaphM123 OK, basicly, it's a romance and the other might be a romance both are tragic it's a match, got it
Such a good video makes me want to reread the books
Fantastic Video, I always love when you do Kingkiller Lore stuff.
Thanks! More to come!
@@CapturedInWords Would love to see you cover Andrew Rowe and His Books . Thanks.
Have you talked about the similarities between Selitos telling Lanre that there is something dark and unfixable in him compared to how Kvothe was told the same thing when practicing the Lethani?
Are you saying Kvothe may be a descendent of Lanre?
i understood that the dark things in kvothe is about the secrets he keeps about his parents and troupee death.
Once again, great video! A lot of good theories, but I'd caution against attributing everything that has happened in Temerant to the same dozen or so characters mentioned in the book. Some fantasy authors do this, and I guess it makes the story more easily grasped by readers, but the downside is a lack of realism because everything significant that happens in the world is done by the same small group of individuals (who are often all related in some way). Rothfuss is a good author, and I think he avoids this problem for the most part. My point is that while I do think it's likely that Kvothe is a Lackless and the Lacklesses could be descendant from Iax, I'd be careful claiming, for example, that a listener hermit mentioned in a story is Teccam because Teccam is the only famous philosopher mentioned in the books and they both don't wear shoes. We don't even know if Teccam and Iax lived in the same century. It's possible, but not a solid connection to base further theory on. This applies to a lot of other fan theories as well, such as the theory that Ambrose is the king Kvothe kills mainly because Ambrose is the known antagonist.
Hello , you videos are great. I am not a english native and use your videos to practice my listen skill. Hope you can created even more content for a long time.
Great way to do it, I learned English mostly through RUclips vids after school education left me hanging and I my comprehension as well as ease in speaking surpasses many instructors at this point. Practise is everything and no educational material measures up to familiarity with everyday speach. I might make errors, but people get what I say and I get them where I saw "better educated" people struggle
I’m glad you make these videos because I feel like they’re about the closest to getting DoS as we will get any time soon
Brilliant. So many things I hadn’t caught or realised (relevance of Auri’s Book of Secrets, the ‘ring unworn’ being the stone circle… I could go on!)
LOVE these videos. When reading and rereading the books you can’t help but feel like clues are dropping everywhere but I’m too daft to pick them all up and puzzle them out. These videos help so much. Even if they are just speculation, they are well founded speculation. Please keep them up.
Really well made lore video Jay. Thanks for doing such hard work for us fans.
This is one of my favorite videos that you’ve done.
I hadn’t noticed some of the things about the book of secrets before, that way great.
Your theory about Laurion having a child from meeting Iax in a dream realm was interesting, but their is a mechanic in the world about doors and sleeping, and it’s the philosophy of the four minds. The philosophy runs through the book pretty constantly. Sleeping mind, leads to forgetting mind, leads to madness, leads to death. It sort of hints, for me, that one becomes more able to manipulate names the deeper they go beyond those doors. Which is why the crockery is so important.
I think Iax is just locked in some part of the Fae realm. And that Kvothe is able to free him if that binding, but it unleashes the Scrael along with Iax in the process.
In one of his streams over the last year Rothfuss hinted at a way to become immortal through story in his world, and I wonder if that’s not Iax’ goal and the Chandrian’s goal as well. To break that.
Which crockery are you referring to? The four doors are also escape/relief from sin/guilt, so Haliax has been denied all of these after his treachery.
Can't wait for the poem/rhyme comparison video. Thanks for the time you put into these videos, they are my favourite things to watch on youtube!
I remember having a certain feeling of frustration when reading about Jax and the hermit and just now I made the connection that it is the exact same feeling I got whenever Kvothe was doing "thoughtless" things!
I love these videos. I’ve watched them each through twice - so much fun to dive into the richness of this world again through your viewpoint and videos. Amazing how the story feels so small and personal and so grand and sweeping and lived in all at once.
Keep making them forever! Haha
Well, I'm gonna put this here since you all care about the series as much as I do. I think something that might help you all make your theories clearer is the meta pieces of the character in the framing device.
I'll have to piece out the evidence but my thesis is basically:
Each of the three major characters involved in the story play a role that represents a piece of what it has to say about the nature of stories. In an obvious way, Chronicler is the author, Bast is the audience, and Kvothe is the story.
Extrapolating this out I think we can find out pieces of what Rothfuss is trying to say about stories and how we tell them through kingkiller.
I plan to flesh this out into an essay when I get the chance and I'll maybe throw this on Reddit or something when it's finished. If anyone sees this in the sea of comments feel free to pm me any evidence and/or counter evidence you might find.
(I don't expect much counter evidence to the actual roles because of how they are pretty literal in addition to the symbolism but if you have counter evidence to the "how" of my argument I would appreciate it a lot.)
I like the idea and haven't thought about this symbolism yet, but it is certainly meaningful!
great video, thank you :) love everything from kingkiller chronicle and i'm glad that you are doing this series, always great theories and we can tell that you have spent a lot of time with research
My theory has always been the two versions of the Lackless rhyme is the key to open the doors of stone. Specifically, it's a 7-factor authentication: an object, a password, time, ambient light, biometric, a key, a thought.
Wonderful, as always, Jay! Thank you for making these!
Awesome work, appreciate it!!! Another few theories I never considered, so thank you for the eye opener!
You just got me so psyched. Thank you for all the hard work!!
I keep seeing your videos over and over again. Well done, your story telling is a masterpiece! I'm looking forward to your book!
I loved this video and am very interested in this theory, especially as the wait for book three continues and this just makes me want to reread!
Iax might also be considered “a sharp word, not for swearing”. I’d still like to understand how Iax affected or merged with Lanre to form Haliax. Great video! I’d love to hear a video about the verbal deceptions in the book, e.g. the Cthaeae’s statements are all technically true but likely intended to mislead (“he beats her, regularly”: maybe Mr Ash is Bredon teaching Denna to play Tak, or something similarly innocuous?) And the inscription above the archives definitely doesn’t translate the way Willem expresses it, but likely means something more sinister.
These videos are always so interesting and always give me another perspective to think about. Shout out Captured in Words!
Truly amazing content, many thanks! Please keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for making these videos! One thing I noticed rereading the books this time around is that rothfuss refers to some people going beyond the "doors of death" and some going behind the "doors of stone". I think there was a full army that went behind the "Doors of Stone" specifically in one of skarpis stories. Interested to see what that army looks like in the third book.
This sparked two ideas. One is that the university was the broken house that Jax gave up, and the tinker giving Jax glasses represents someone helping teach him to see the world as the first step into the power... see-er, namer, shaper, etc, which sets him on his journey.
The second idea is that the partial name of the moon that Jax put into the box is a moon rock, an actual piece of the moon, which is what's in the Lackless box. This would necessitate that the magics of Temerant are actually related pieces of a larger picture, since none of the individual magics could use a piece of something that massive and that distant to pull it anywhere.
Fela and Kvothe have both had repeated dreams about the four-plate door... of COURSE you can get past it via dreams!! I never caught that 😭
Videos like this need to be sent to Rothfuss, so that if he has truly hit writers block, the passion fuled theorys of others may breathe life into the ideas that have waited dormant.
Loved these new theories!! Great video!
Grahhh, your Kingkiller Chronicle videos are always the best, Jay!
I've never read books that have required me to read it so closely... It's addicting... I love it.
I can't belive I've never made the connection between the two ryhms and what they mean!! It seems like it's all spelled out right there, I'm very exited to see what you come up with on the upcoming video.
Don't forget that the description of Meluin matches not only Kvothes mum but also matches the description of Denna...
Keep up the good work, mate. I would watch your videos even if they were 2 hours long
I think that Denna is Kvothes Bastard cousin. Kvothe, with his knack for seeing to the heart of things (naming), mentions in anger that maybe Meluin had a Ruh enter her bed or some such, and that's why she hates them so vehemently.
I'd love to hear your take on this.
@Captured in words. Oh snap! This is GREAT thank you!
Your videos always makes me want to abandon all my responsibilities and go read the books again! Keep up the great work!
Usually hate spoilers but after a decade of waiting and finally deciding enough is enough, very happy to have watched these theories, thanks for the great upload 👍
I love all these videos! Thank you!
This was amazing! Thank you for all this amazing insight!
Thanks for watching!
You convinced me more than I expected. Great video.
Glad you liked it!
1:03 Bro got some bars
Haha 😂 he can also beatbox 🤫
Thanks so much! This was great!! 😀💛
you're the goat man. Can't get enough of your videos. Thank you!
I appreciate it! Happy you like them!
Great research and analysis.
Great theory! keep up the good work
Awesome video, thank you!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching! :)
This is exactly what I needed today❤
Wow. That's very impressive. Renews my admiration for his storytelling.
You should do a video about Kvothe's character analysis. I know there have been videos of this sort before, but no one can go as in depth as you do. Please, pretty please.
The thing I dislike about the Teccam theory about the hermit, is that Teccam is a seemingly well known historical person which feels out of place in a story about a mostly unknown Shaper from pre-history. More likely is that the barefoot hermit in a cave has become a trope in Temerant for various wise men in stories. Thus as the story slowly transformed from a true account of some events from the Creation War into a fairytale story, the trope was applied to who or whatever the hermit actually was.
It's possible the same is true of the Tinker. As the story was reconstructed, something more familiar was but in place.
In general I think that too literal interpretations of this and other stories like it misses the point. For the same reason I don't think the broken house is necessarily a broken house. My pet theory is that it is a representation of the original world of Temerant, before the Faen Realm was created. The broken nature might be more poetic about how Iax viewed the world, broken, incomplete and in need of fixing, which aligns perfectly with the Shapers' ideals. It also means that "house" here is a representation of "world" which makes it align with how the Faen Realm is the Folding House. In this theory the Tinker could be a Knower who tries to show Iax various wonders of the world as it is, but Iax is not impressed. The conflict between them sows the seeds of the conflict between Shapers and Knowers and Iax leaving the Broken House to the Tinker might represent Iax leaving the world of Temerant to the Knowers and going off to create the Faen Realm. The Broken Road could be metaphoric in nature an represent how the world as it is, is a result of the "broken" (in Iax' mind) ideals of the Knowers. This also creates an interesting parallel to how Haliax views the world as, in essence, broken.
The hermit could be the Cthae or just a representation of a teacher who taught Iax naming.
I'm not saying this is the definite truth, but I feel it aligns more closely with the symbolic nature of the story.
The Luckless -> Lackless idea is just perfect though. I don't necessarily think there is a blood relation (although it is very possible), but there is definitely a good chance there is some connection between Iax and the Lackless family.
Woah, i had started down this rabbit hole a while back, but damn did you dig farther than me. So many things it feels like i missed.
Gawd Damnit. I LOVE(D) the first 2 books. I am/was/will be patient for book 3...I want to revisit these (audio)books so badly...but then I remember all the parts of the books I just HATE...but deep down I still love them for these flaws...but knowing the third book is so uncertain I can't bring myself to fall in love again....hell, early in 2020's lockdown a friend told me she was gonna start [listening] to the books and I went off on the series like it was a bad breakup and she told me she wanted to be friends with that person...I had to stop myself mid-rant and say "if you do...be ready for no foreseeable closure" it was such a wild experience...I've never felt such strong emotions for a book series. Reluctantly watching this video reminds me of all the things I absolutely LOVED about them...and now I'm hitting myself with a backlash of "yeah, but!"
I want so badly for this to be concluded...I want that closure...I (think I) understand his reluctance/delay but I can't NOT be embittered and feel like we'll never get it. Maybe if he kept writing non KingKiller stories (how Stephen King just wrote other stuff between Dark Tower) it would make the wait feel less...and we could still enjoy his way with prose...until it was time. Alas we get scraps and nothing and just hope that in our lifetimes he'll finish this gorgeous flawed wonderfully imperfect masterwork...ugh
All seems so plausible and obvious that I’d say you pretty much need to put a spoiler alert on this video.
That was like watching a brand new episode of Kingkiller, amazing. 👊🏼❤️🙏🏼🔥
Really well done.
Bilbo says, “a box without hinges, key, or lid yet golden treasure inside is hid.” (Tolkien, The Hobbit)
I loved this video!!!! I love king killer theories so much! Please book 3 come out already!!!
Loved these books when i first picked them up, but i've little hope book 3 will ever be released. The fact Rothfuss couldnt even release a chapter after accepting people's money (after specifically paying for said chapter) tells me it's nowhere near ready
My thoughts as well. What a joke.
I love your videos!
Love this theory! Seems to make so much sense.
One interesting thought -- Indian Moon Lander called Chandarayan-3 -- translates Moon ship ---- All the Iax stuff is related to the moon - does that make tha chandrians 'moon men) or somehow related to Iax from/by that
This is AWESOME!!!
Looking forward to reading this books. So excited. As soon as I finish Foucaults Pendulum I'll read it
Just when I thought I was out he pulls me back in
Can't wait for the second video later this week
thank you for sharing this
2 possible ideas:
- Kvothe, like Menda, was sired by a dreaming god (in this case Iax, projecting into Laurian's dream) and is thus the direct son of Iax
- Kvothe is the son of Haliax, potentially corrupted or influenced in some way by Iax (breath of Iax), and thus still brings the blood as an indirect descendent of Iax via Lanre/Haliax
Idk which seems more reasonable but... when was Laurian knocked up and by whom, if this theory is to be believed?
I think it is more likely Kvote is the direct descendant of Iax. Opening the more interesting question of: what actually happened after Iax stole part of the name of the Moon? She did like Iax, so it is likely the romance kept going. even produced an offspring. A bloodline related to Iax. Iax was only stopped much later (The creation war was said to last very long). So plenty of time for Iax and Lutis to raise a child or even a family.
Auri must be a child in this line. Id wager a child of the moon x lax
@@mycorrya Not a bad idea actually!
When speaking of dreams, don’t forget that Denna has her own dreams and some issues with them.
Great video! Solid theories and ideas.
This video still leaves me with so many questions about the Cthaeh. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the Cthaeh is the Tinker, or the Hermit, referenced in the Jax story. WHY is so motivated to cause chaos and ruin? Why isn't it trying to escape? Is it trying to escape?
Also, the timeline of events is still so confusing. The creation war happened before Men and Fae were really a thing? Then how does Jax meet a Tinker? Didn't they come to exist AFTER the creation war?
Does the whole Talu physically manifesting, come AFTER the creation war as well?
Small theory about the Hermit:
-The hermit was a knower. Lived in harmony with the world. He tries to help Iax/Jax. BUT, jax misunderstands him and takes his advice to mean "oh, I should steal the moon!" The hermit tries to explain that's not what he was saying, but Iax remains determined to get the moon. And he does.
Selitos then learns about all that happened with Jax and goes to this Hermit, the hermit tries to explain, but Selitos won't listen and then curses the Hermit (much in the way he curses Lanre), turning him INTO the Chthae. Now, the Chthae, spiteful and bitter with Selitos, seeks to ruin the world.
-With nearly every major figure in the world having multiple names, I'm still trying to figure out who else might actually be Selitos. Like, we have Jax/Iax, we have Lanre/Haliax, Tehlu/Menda, Kvothe/Kote, Denna/Diane..., etc, but then there's just "Selitos". Not sure if that's significant or not.
-That last little theory you mentioned is really interesting... It definitely has parallels with the story of Iax and Kvothe's own path.
If Chronicler is a lackless, of sorts, then it's fitting that he's the one who "frees" Kvothe from his personal prison. Just like how Kvothe, a lackless, ends up freeing Iax, the original lackless, from his.
With all due respect, I think calling Denna a representation of the Moon is a stretch. She feels much closer to the Wind, if not even the actual embodiment of it such that the name of the wind is Denna's true name. Her changing of her lesser name constantly mirrors the 'ever changing wind'. When Kvothe leaves the Uni to chase the wind, he finds Denna. He struggles to find and understand Denna the way he struggles to comprehend the wind's name. She is fleeting and her mood can change as violently as does the wind. When he describes her singing, he says that it is magical and she does not have to abide the laws for musical structure, comparing her to a spirit that passes through walls in a town. When he meets her in the tavern after his adventrues in Admere, he calls her name to force her to breathe (Kvothe says he called the wind to do this, but I think he is being sly in his accounting to Chronicler & called her name). When Kvothe is being tested for entry into the Ademere's school, he personifies it in the story as an old friend and stills it (going off memory, much less sure on this point). I would think there are better examples, but going off memory. The Seals flower bit detracts a bit, but I don't think it strikes at the heart of the idea.
I think there is some mirroring in the Iax/Jax & the Moon/Ludis story between him & Denna in that the tragedy that awaits us is her Name being only partially able to be saved from the 'Angel' that he fights. The tragedy being that he must sunder a piece of his name to stop her from being anihilated, which he locks both the name of Denna he was able to save from the angel and his name into his thrice locked chest.
Great videos, I hope you do make one on the tinker and prove me wrong on the Denna reflect the moon idea you hinted at.
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Always love the king killer theories
Speaking of bloodlines, har har, I can't help but think of the fact that when you're talking about lineages, they're often referred to as houses. The House of Windsor, for example. So when Jax, who had no parents, gives the tinker his "broken house", are we talking about a physical thing, or are we (also) talking about the opportunity for someone to help do something to correct the Lackless bloodline, i.e. make it so it's not plagued by misery and misfortune forever? And if that's so, who was the tinker...and who is their descendant who might be involved in Kvothe's life today?
Is it weird that I'm replying to myself? I just remembered that when Kvothe first met Abenthy, the mayor of the town they're in mistakes Ben for a tinker. Patrick has a way of just...telling us stuff, only in a way that makes us think he's not telling us. What if Abenthy is the non-tinker descendant of the tinker who met Jax? I dunno, could be a huge reach, but these things are so fun to tie together and think about.
@@LeilaAMMartin Now that you mention Ben, it just feels weird that Kvothe never tries to reach out to him, even after spending like two years at the University, and traveling the world back and forth. Dude is even bored at the end of book 2 and just goes to Tarbian to give his thanks to the people that helped him there, yet still, not a thought is spent for basically the only "family" member he has left, who teached him everything he needed to become the man he his, plus someone who actually know the name of the wind. Even his stories travel across countries and he's basically famous at this point, but fuck sending a letter to Ben right ? 😂
“The Chandrian move from place to place, but they never leave a trace. They hold their secrets very tight…” sounds a lot like Denna.
It does!
Love your videos
Love your theories even though I myself would have never thought about them, it clearly makes so much sense.
What I have been thinking is, that Loren knows somehow that Kvothe is a Lackless and thats why he wants to keep him far from the archives and the 4-plate door and is happy to ban him from there and keep him away as much as possible. I think he realized when he heard Arliden was Kvothe's father, he might know that Arliden was with Natalia Lackless. Just food for thought though, as we may never find out...
Yessss I need more of this love the bideos
Your videos are the best