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  • Опубликовано: 21 мар 2019
  • One of the biggest mysteries in The Kingkiller Chronicle is the four-plate door that’s located in the Archives of the University, here’s my take on theories about what’s behind it and how Kvothe eventually opens it. Let me know what you think is behind the door!
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Комментарии • 907

  • @chickennuggets353
    @chickennuggets353 5 лет назад +2012

    The four-plate door hides the 3rd book in The Kingkiller Chronicles.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +243

      But then we can't see it opened until the 3rd book comes out, but the third book won't come out until the door is opened :O
      Merciful Tehlu that is a terrifying thought

    • @neptunoh1456
      @neptunoh1456 5 лет назад +39

      @@CapturedInWords ma gosh thats why Patrick Will never publish the book...

    • @michaelxz1305
      @michaelxz1305 4 года назад +4

      what's behind captured in words' face is a mystery as well - possibly the Belgariad, but that's all I can make out

    • @zachbishop3795
      @zachbishop3795 4 года назад +1

      Hahahahahaha

    • @petewiebe1344
      @petewiebe1344 4 года назад +30

      I think we won’t see the 3rd book until someone finds Patrick’s true name.

  • @philosophergeneral
    @philosophergeneral 5 лет назад +837

    Rothfuss: *slaps four-plate door* "This bad boy can fit so much theory!"

    • @Snow-sx5ev
      @Snow-sx5ev 5 лет назад +10

      This is the only comment that made me laugh out loud

  • @rainunderfire9041
    @rainunderfire9041 5 лет назад +540

    All dislikes are from Amyr wanting to keep the door a secret.

    • @Luiz_Alberto.P.K
      @Luiz_Alberto.P.K 5 лет назад +18

      There are 7 dislikes while I'm writing this comment. One for each chandrian member. I'm just saying...

    • @foma42
      @foma42 5 лет назад +1

      From those of us who can't stand to hear character names mispronounced, more likely.

    • @matiasfarias5122
      @matiasfarias5122 5 лет назад

      @@Luiz_Alberto.P.K and seven likes to your comment. just saying...

    • @corbettknoff5123
      @corbettknoff5123 5 лет назад

      @@Luiz_Alberto.P.K And 7 likes for your post....mhmm

    • @ToastedWafflez
      @ToastedWafflez 2 года назад +5

      Would you look at that, they hid all evidence of the dislikes too.

  • @Zyphent
    @Zyphent 2 года назад +107

    It's videos like this that are the reason why I like picking up incomplete series.
    I know everyone bemoans the delay of book 3, but if I just read all 3 books then moved on, I'd miss the ability to speculate and chew on all the details and mystery of the world.

  • @Mad_Oph
    @Mad_Oph 5 лет назад +254

    Just slap the door, shout "edro", and bing, bang, boom, you're in.

    • @amjadnawaz5122
      @amjadnawaz5122 3 года назад +4

      𝗪𝗮𝗶𝘁, 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁'𝘀 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹

    • @iodoxx
      @iodoxx 3 года назад +7

      that is not from the lethani

  • @kahsa1076
    @kahsa1076 5 лет назад +81

    Kvothe having some Fae blood would also serve to explain why he wasn't lost to madness by Felurian, the way all human men had been. By the same reasoning, it may have given him some slim protection from his encounter with the Cthaeh, as afterward, Felurian examined his eyes deeply and pronounced him okay.

  • @garywatters11
    @garywatters11 5 лет назад +315

    These videos just make me want to reread TNOTW and TWMF every time.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +25

      Haha I'm glad! Every time I reread them there always seems to be something new to learn and connect together

    • @oscarguitart7393
      @oscarguitart7393 5 лет назад +3

      why only the 2 first book and not the third.... wait :(

    • @garywatters11
      @garywatters11 5 лет назад +2

      Òscar Guitart I’m sure the videos will make me want to read the full trilogy when we finally get book 3 lol

    • @patrickhill8494
      @patrickhill8494 4 года назад +3

      I just started rereading the books for the umpteenth time lol

  • @dman6261
    @dman6261 5 лет назад +605

    The greatest question is: will he be able to answer in one book the many questions he has risen in two? this book better have 2000 pages...

    • @paulatreides5055
      @paulatreides5055 5 лет назад +211

      I'm not sure, but I think I remember Rothfus said there will be another trilogy after King's killer chronicle, but probably, that second trilogy will be completed when the humanity can make intergalactic travel and reach the speed of light

    • @xanderellem3646
      @xanderellem3646 5 лет назад +58

      This is my biggest fear because the simple and truthful answer is no, and what's worse is we already know how the story ends, with no ending kvothe is broken, alone and powerless living as a nobody innkeeper.

    • @TomYourmombadil
      @TomYourmombadil 5 лет назад +23

      @@paulatreides5055 this is why we must protect Patrick at all costs

    • @paulatreides5055
      @paulatreides5055 5 лет назад +2

      @@TomYourmombadil hahahaha, I agree

    • @quinnsinclair7028
      @quinnsinclair7028 4 года назад +45

      Technically that’s not how the story ends. Only where it is right now. The framing device of Kvothe as Kote the innkeeper has hinted that his actions did a lot of damage to the world. That the current war is his fault. On top of that Bast is taking more and more drastic actions to try and rekindle Kvothe’s fire. My guess is that once the story catches up to Kvothe as an innkeeper then it will continue. I doubt he can set everything right but he can at least do something. At the very least we’ll probably see the effect his personal accounting of his life has on the world after Chronicler releases it.

  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews 5 лет назад +143

    God damn you make me want to step up my editing game. You’re amazing my guy.

    • @marcusrodger
      @marcusrodger 4 года назад +2

      Mr. Kennedy is a National Canadian Treasure.

    • @hravandil9993
      @hravandil9993 4 года назад +3

      Daniel Greene fucking do it then, hobbit feet

    • @factbeaglesarebest
      @factbeaglesarebest 3 года назад +2

      He’s far better in his content than you. He does his research, uses analytical thinking, and doesn’t have the condescending tone. :)

  • @justinlebon5076
    @justinlebon5076 4 года назад +44

    To connect the Idea about the 4 Doors of the Mind: sleep, forgetting, madness and death at 19:33 in the video, you said it yourself earlier with Master Elodin's quote :"Valaritas. God. I can still remember what it was like, standing down there looking at the door, wondering." He laughed again. "Merciful Tehlu, it almost killed me." We know Elodin at least went through the sleep (sleeping of the mind) and the Madness state so we can only assume he went through the forgetting door as well. and the last door he couldn't open which was death, hence his quote about the door. We can also make a connection to this with Taborlin the Great, since he went through these doors since Elodin was "mocking him" while going through how he escaped the crockery on page 313. There also is some kind of connection to those who have gone through the door of madness with those already in the crockery since on page 308 The front desk lady says "The moon's getting full, too. You know how it gets". (If you want to try to connect it to the Fae realm)

    • @bigboyjeff6151
      @bigboyjeff6151 3 года назад +2

      Idk how this only has three likes but you're perception is exceptional.

    • @justinlebon5076
      @justinlebon5076 3 года назад +1

      @@bigboyjeff6151 thanks haha, just hope the next book comes out within the next decade so we can know if I'm right or not

  • @amandamathews4516
    @amandamathews4516 5 лет назад +166

    All this built up anticipation.. I think I’ll go into shock once he releases the final book.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +26

      I think I'll just lock myself behind the doors of stone for awhile so I can reread it over and over

    • @amandamathews4516
      @amandamathews4516 5 лет назад +4

      Captured in Words sounds like an amazing plan.

    • @TomYourmombadil
      @TomYourmombadil 5 лет назад +2

      after all this time I think I might be too scared to actually read it and find out what happens. almost.

    • @TomYourmombadil
      @TomYourmombadil 5 лет назад

      after all this time I think I might be too scared to actually read it and find out what happens. almost.

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад +2

      It will be shock or disappointment. Assuming it's released in our lifetimes.

  • @9990zara
    @9990zara 5 лет назад +171

    I’m a simple person. I see KKC content, I click

    • @Azarath304
      @Azarath304 5 лет назад +1

      His love for pens is greater than your love for cats. Give up old lady. You are not a cougar.

    • @maxim9875
      @maxim9875 5 лет назад +2

      I completeley misread (i see KKK content....) And went "oohshit"

  • @erickrause6443
    @erickrause6443 5 лет назад +142

    I think puppet is also a fire extinguisher. He keeps open flames nearby so that the name of fire is always on his lips. I’d never thought that he could also be a chandrian alarm.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +27

      This is a great theory as well! I definitely think it's possible he knows the name of fire

    • @kieranross9
      @kieranross9 4 года назад +14

      @@CapturedInWords When that was mentioned I also though of the puppets themselves rotting as one of the other signs of the chandrian being nearby

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад +5

      He keeps open flames around because fire is useful, and not dangerous with him around. If you know a name it's always available to you. It's only erratic while you're still learning it.

    • @bigboyjeff6151
      @bigboyjeff6151 3 года назад +2

      I have problems with the theory that puppet is the guard watching for the chandrian. Hilax put iax behind the door, why would he come free him. It makes no sense.

    • @matthewparker9276
      @matthewparker9276 3 года назад

      @@bigboyjeff6151 maybe the sithe are trying to bring jax back?

  • @jorgealarcon2113
    @jorgealarcon2113 4 года назад +85

    So, I’ve had a pet-peeve theory for a few years and you pointed at something the brought it to a whole new level.
    1- According to Shehyn, A better name for the Chandrian is Rhinta (and, since that song has the true names of the chandrian, it seems to be a reliable source)
    2- the skin changer at the end of day 1 asks kvothe Te Rhintae?, which I imagine is something like Are you a Chandrian? (Or another question Chandrian-related)
    3- now, if according to the text at the archives and will’s translation ‘rhinata’ means ‘shapes’, then ‘rhinta’ might be ‘shapers’.
    Thus, the Chandrian are the shapers, they created the fae realm, Haliax stole the moon and sparked the creation war. Maybe the skinchanger was asking kvothe if he is a shaper? Did he make a huge shaping mistake (like when he bound the air to his lungs and almost asphyxiates, but on a planetary scales) sparking the current war, freeing the scrael...

    • @goglamere
      @goglamere 4 года назад +5

      When I first read this, I thought you wrote that you have a pat-peeve. Also, "yes!" to this theory!

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад +5

      Perhaps his mistake was opening the door and not being prepared to deal with what was guarding the other side, or what came through. I think he started the war when he killed Ambrose with the name of stone.

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад +3

      My pet theory revolves around denna and something he says when pretending to banish Bast about denna-leyna. I think Denna is not the love of his life, but a creature od Fae and part of a long con.

    • @bigboyjeff6151
      @bigboyjeff6151 3 года назад +7

      Haliax being iax thing may hold some merit, but I have issues with it, we know for a fact that haliax is lanre. And that kinda shits on that idea, also the chandrian are most definitely not shapers. I retract the later of that statement it's amazing how the brain works as I was typing it I decided I was wrong they might be shapers but still haliax and iax are not the same person, I personally believe iaxs name has been locked behind the four plate door and his body has been bound to the cathea¿

    • @spinup7860
      @spinup7860 3 года назад +1

      This theory makes a lot of sense Hal iax it's literally in his name

  • @UjjwalAgarwalIITD
    @UjjwalAgarwalIITD 4 года назад +17

    16:06
    Kvothe goes to kill Iax for creating Haliax and killing his father.
    Iax: I am your father.

  • @Dawnleapord
    @Dawnleapord 5 лет назад +28

    Loved the editing on this! Everytime I watch one of these videos, I somehow love these books even more than I already do.
    For the connection between the four plate door and the four doors of the mind - maybe to open to door, you somehow need to experience the four doors of the mind to open it? This would make sense with what Elodin said, that it nearly killed him - perhaps he got to the madness door to try and open it, but didn't quite get to the "death" door? (I mean, we already know he's certainly mad).

  • @reecemccullough4829
    @reecemccullough4829 4 года назад +79

    this third book may be the greatest book ever written. I understand his delay. He is on the precipice of something potentially timeless.

    • @CinemaNinja
      @CinemaNinja 3 года назад +6

      Could not agree more, if he needs more time to make it timeless, then so be it.

    • @AV-the-machinist
      @AV-the-machinist 2 года назад +5

      Nahh. He just wants to mess with everyone by never finishing because he understands his own hubris.

    • @Kage-jk4pj
      @Kage-jk4pj 2 года назад +13

      The greatest book never written*

    • @abigailslade3824
      @abigailslade3824 2 года назад +10

      Problem is you need to be timeless to read it.

    • @dark_tracker
      @dark_tracker 9 месяцев назад

      Only thing I worry about is with so long between that all these theories and videos and reddit threads people stumble on the truths and they get dismissed or put to the side and then if they come to be true it’s like we already worked it out. Or even worse dismissed it and it becomes lacklustre

  • @terretsforever
    @terretsforever 5 лет назад +11

    Man, I didn't know people thought the underthing was the town from the Adem story, it's super neat to me. I also personally love the idea & mental image of Kvothe finally becoming a shaper of things using his mastery of the wind & his knowledge of music to communicate vast ideas & it all culminating in him singing the wind through the flute door & it reverberating in the archives. The underthing's once dormant pieces begin to move as the door opens up & reveals all that we've wanted to know.
    I never took Felurian covering Kvothe after the light spell to be her literally suffocating him, but it's a neat thought. It felt more like her actually exerting her control of him that she tried in the beginning, but respectfully enough not to just take him & break his mind with it.
    I always assumed Puppet was just a scriv that cracked, & that worked with Elodan to find the name of fire, hence why he can have candles if he pleases. They're his watchful reactive audience to his puppetry & if any piece of fire touches the archives you have a literal fire extinguisher one floor away.
    Neat video, I hope to see more KKC from you my dude. (Crossposting this from the KKC subreddit to help the YT metrics.)

  • @heiarhloversson4638
    @heiarhloversson4638 5 лет назад +83

    after Kvoth´s first tuition setting Lorren asks about his father. Maybe he was trying to puzzle out if Kvothe is a Lackless...

    • @hiraimran2848
      @hiraimran2848 4 года назад +13

      Heiðar Hlöðversson I think Kvothe’s mother was Meluan Lackless’ sister. Kvothe’s mother is said to be of nobility but joined the Ruh after falling in love with Kvothe’s dad. Similarly, Meluan’s sister joined the Edema Ruh after falling in love with a trouper. Also. Kvothe studies Meluan’s face intently as he finds her extremely familiar but can’t put his finger on why.

    • @ConnerCreativeMedia
      @ConnerCreativeMedia 4 года назад +15

      @@hiraimran2848 There's also a strong hint in the form of a pun Kvothe's father tosses out at the beginning of the first book, "it is worth my life to make my wife not tally a lot less (Natalia Lackless)"

    • @hiraimran2848
      @hiraimran2848 4 года назад

      Audio Technical ooo didn’t think of that! Nice!

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад +6

      At this point who Kvothe's mother was before she married is pretty well established. Remember when Kvothe's mother took him to task for repeating a children's rhyme slurring Lady Lackless who "took her riddle raveling"? She was upset because the rhyme targeted her.
      The larger question is, who knows about his noble blood. His appearance and gossip are enough to attract the attention of people familiar with the prophecy. Including most of the Masters.

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад +2

      Maybe Kvothe's father was one of the Amyr. "I know, I know, it was all for the greater good."

  • @joshford2932
    @joshford2932 5 лет назад +69

    These videos always get me hyped for book 3!!!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +7

      Honestly, making them gets me hyped for book 3 as well XD

    • @CugelTheClever458
      @CugelTheClever458 5 лет назад +2

      Its never going to come out.

    • @kidsavant3246
      @kidsavant3246 5 лет назад

      Captured in Words when do you think it will come out, I’m hoping soon btw love your kick videos, they are all so good 😄

  • @sealriously-sealrious9768
    @sealriously-sealrious9768 5 лет назад +38

    Another Kingkiller video, I’m so excited!

  • @thiagooliveira6701
    @thiagooliveira6701 5 лет назад +58

    Would you consider making videos summarizing the books? I'm sure when the third comes out I'll have forgotten most of this stuff, and I would greatly enjoy relieving the story in this format to freshen up the memory. Your theory videos are what keep kingkiller alive in my mind while waiting :P

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +19

      Absolutely! Actually I'm thinking about hosting a big Kingkiller read-along on my channel in a few months, where everyone can read the series along with me and at the end of reading each book I'll put out an in-depth summary video for each :)

    • @TravelsAndConversations
      @TravelsAndConversations 3 года назад

      @@CapturedInWords did this happen?

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom 2 года назад +2

      I have good news for you😁

    • @dillonbryan9440
      @dillonbryan9440 2 года назад

      @@cloudbloom what's the news ?

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom 2 года назад +2

      @@dillonbryan9440 he just made a really good video recently which summarized the first book, I believe it's almost an hour long you should be able to find it on the channel

  • @kostas4005
    @kostas4005 5 лет назад +13

    It's cool that you decided to make a video about these lines. I thought about them a lot before.
    1. One of them a ring unworn - One a ring that's not for wearing
    2. One a word that is forsworn - One a sharp word, not for swearing
    3. One a time that must be right - On a road, that's not for traveling, She's been dreaming and not sleeping(A night with no moon is one of the things all wise men fear.)
    4. One a candle without light - Right beside her husband's candle
    5. One a son who brings the blood - Lackless keeps her husband's rocks
    6. One a door that holds the flood - There's a door without a handle
    7. One a thing tight-held in keeping
    Then comes that which comes with sleeping - There's a secret she's been keeping
    .
    1- name "There were rings unseen on his second hand.
    One was blood in a flowing band.
    One of air all whisper thin,
    And the ring of ice had a flaw within.
    Full faintly shone the ring of flame,
    and the final ring was without name"
    2- name of the moon (Iax got name of the moon by deceiving, forsworn) or name of the Denna's master (Kvothe swore to Denna not to look for her master he swore on his name, his power and his left hand) ore Haliax's true name.
    3- new moon
    4- Haliax's candle. Lyra is lackless, Lanre is her husband. "The other candle sat underneath his outstretched hand: it was grey with a black flame, and the space around it was smudget and darkened "
    5- someone from the lakless family (Kvothe)
    6- Doors of stone
    7- Moon comes at night when people sleep. This Secret might be the name of the moon.

    • @shellyjelly5975
      @shellyjelly5975 3 года назад

      There's more to number three, I think it's not per say specifically a new moon but is speaking of the dawn realm which is timeless in itself yet had darkness in certain places

    • @shellyjelly5975
      @shellyjelly5975 3 года назад

      And for number seven it just seems to be connected to Auri in some way, just theories but they seem to make sense in some ways

  • @kevincy5397
    @kevincy5397 5 лет назад +68

    I always connected Auri with the moon. I mean Kvothe even calls her his moon fae and as we have seen he has an almost subconscious naming ability, with the horse in NOTW.( she is one of the major questions i have and want answered in the next book!) But I never connected Kvothe with Jax nor the door with the anything to do with Jax. Though I have long thought that the four plate door/ doors of stone were references to the door that Lanre gave his life to close. It would make sense that Jax is sealed behind that door, or has something to do with it AND that the four plate door is directly related to the lockless box. I think the lockless box will play a huge role in the next book.
    Also the bit about Lorne being an amir. Never thought of that! makes a ton of sense though. He is propaly the only one that would be able to censor books that had anything to do with the candran.
    Also also Puppet with the candles. that just blew my mind. Rothuss tends not to waste words and puts stuff in that seams to be just a strange little thing or not even worth mentioning only to turn it into a major plot piont. I mean in the first book we get the Lackless rhyme and it gets put off to the side as a simple, if insulting, little rhyme only to have it come back in the second book as a plot piont and it is one of the biggest questions left yet unanswered!
    Rothuss needs to finish that damn book!!!!!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +7

      Completely agree with your thoughts on Auri being connected with the moon, which makes the parallel of Jax and Kvothe really interesting. And I definitely think the lockless box will play a big role in the next book as well. Aghh there's so many things that need to be answered in the third book!!
      Trying not to get my hopes up, but this last New Years Rothfuss re-tweeted a fan-art of Kvothe that said: "Happy New Years! I hope to return in 2019!"
      Hopefully him re-tweeting this means that we will at least get a release date this year!

    • @kevincy5397
      @kevincy5397 5 лет назад +3

      @@CapturedInWords That is awesome! I would love to see the boo come out here soon! Or at least before I die that would be nice too....

    • @aaronthomas5257
      @aaronthomas5257 5 лет назад +2

      Bwahhhaaahhhh!!!!
      Yup, before death is a reasonable goal... :D

    • @susanmercurio3193
      @susanmercurio3193 5 лет назад

      I don't think that the four-plate door has anything to do with the Doors of Stone.
      And Lanre didn't give his life to close the Doors of Stone; it was that he wasn't able to stay behind them. He couldn't die.

    • @kevincy5397
      @kevincy5397 5 лет назад

      @@susanmercurio3193 Lanre dies at the Blac of Drossen Tor(spelling may be wrong) and his wife Lyra brings him back via naming. But it gas been awhile since i read the books. Been sitting here waiting for the next one.

  • @danielbaxter9042
    @danielbaxter9042 5 лет назад +7

    Pat on the back... hahahahah. Well done!

  • @CapturedInWords
    @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +34

    What do YOU think is behind the four-plate door in the Archives?

    • @LEMON_0447
      @LEMON_0447 5 лет назад +5

      If you assume that Kvothe will open the door, which is very likely, then I don't think iax/jax is behind it or that would break the world. I though I heard PR mention how Kvothe wouldn't be an influence as large as that. Or maybe the disorder in the current time frame is worse than we think.

    • @fulcrumthebrave5715
      @fulcrumthebrave5715 5 лет назад +5

      I think there's a lot behind the four plated door. It might be covering some sort of portal to the fae, one of the 'cracks' from Jax's (Iax's) house. Or maybe it is just some sort of "forbidden section" like in Harry Potter but I think it's more than that. Might be some sort of test to open it and face what's inside.

    • @robburgess4556
      @robburgess4556 5 лет назад +9

      Janitor's closet?

    • @dillonlongden7348
      @dillonlongden7348 5 лет назад +4

      I think, The lockless door and the 4 plate door are separate and not the same thing. The 4 plate door hides knowledge of sympathy and naming IMO. and the lockless door on the lockless estate is keeping an evil at bay. I come to this theory because the masters know whats behind it, but they do nothing to protect it. So it just seems like an area that hides intimate knowledge. where as no one knows of the scrale* save the fey. So i think Kvoth unleashes the Scrale* whilst on his curious adventures. I think there is a third angle to his curiosity and that is that Ambrose becomes king. "Taking the Kings coin" There is definitely a civil war going on, with maybe two different kingdoms and the fey realm.

    • @francismayvalmorida1210
      @francismayvalmorida1210 5 лет назад +1

      behind the four-plate door in the archives is ME 🤭😂

  • @jonahcbarnett
    @jonahcbarnett 5 лет назад +4

    You're insane. That's a huge compliment. I mean, I can't over emphasize how cogent your logic is.
    Well done

  • @thelamp9592
    @thelamp9592 5 лет назад +759

    Sadly the least believable theory is the third book coming out in the near future

    • @carrrlb5033
      @carrrlb5033 5 лет назад +75

      The story of the third book has faded into myth and myth into legend, and even the legend is long forgotten when the book is done.

    • @TO5TADA
      @TO5TADA 5 лет назад +17

      Dude should just pass on the story to someone else if he ain't gunna do anything with it

    • @fulcrumthebrave5715
      @fulcrumthebrave5715 5 лет назад +7

      He's probably waiting for the movie and tv show to come out before releasing DoS. That's my theory, anyway. I've heard a possible release sometime between 2021 and 2023 but, honestly, who knows.

    • @TO5TADA
      @TO5TADA 5 лет назад +23

      This series is just like Manet, the eternal duology.

    • @bedpetikee
      @bedpetikee 5 лет назад +22

      What if the 1st and 2nd books are giant connect the dots, and Patrick is waiting for the fans to create more and more complex theories that are compatible with each other. And once the final theory is created, he'll just say that that's the 3rd book, which he wrote inside the first two books. And then he'll ask for 20 bucks from every reddit user, so he can keep on growing his beard and build his words.

  • @jessicahancock64
    @jessicahancock64 5 лет назад +19

    I started watching your channel when you first read TNOTW. I'm glad the madness has finally taken hold of you. 😂

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +3

      Oh it definitely has 😂 they may have to lock me up in the Crockery at this rate. Also thanks for watching for so long!

    • @jessicahancock64
      @jessicahancock64 5 лет назад +2

      @@CapturedInWords I'd visit you! No shoes of course. I've been a NOTW fan since 2008 and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels the need to be locked up!

  • @badjuju2612
    @badjuju2612 5 лет назад +5

    This was a great video. I'm on like my 5th read through of both books. I agree with everyone that's commented the 3rd book is behind the door. I've been waiting forever...

  • @cloudlights2643
    @cloudlights2643 5 лет назад +7

    Damn, you really caught the atmosphere of the books with all that fan art, music and great editing!! Plus i had to laugh out loud here and there... and as we all know laughter's good for the digestion ;-)

  • @meghanjackson7494
    @meghanjackson7494 5 лет назад +14

    Such a well done video, Jay, as always! Lots and lots to think about here. Thanks for all of your hard work to share your ideas with all of us.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it, the script and editing took me a lot longer then expected! This is one of the biggest mysteries to the books and I can't wait to see what Pat has in store for us once the 3rd book is out

  • @darrellbarbery8366
    @darrellbarbery8366 4 года назад +7

    What if Kvothe has to call on "The Name of the Wind" to play the Four-Plate door like a flute? He is a musician after all... The flute like holes were mentioned to be on the door. Just a thought sparked by your video. Thank you for sharing your ideas. Most of them are pretty solid.

  • @crashmoar290
    @crashmoar290 5 лет назад +33

    Don’t even got my notifications on. I just press F5 on this channel all day every day. Woot!

  • @OriginalHuman
    @OriginalHuman 5 лет назад +7

    Great content mate as usual!! That editing though... amazing! Good to see you again my friend!

  • @iasov1981
    @iasov1981 5 лет назад +7

    Wonderfully done video. I can tell you spent a lot of time on it. Thanks for the shout-out to the Crockery too! :D

  • @theninjab0b
    @theninjab0b 5 лет назад +10

    ITS FINALLY HERE!!!! Awesome content as usual and well worth the wait!

  • @bparsons1987
    @bparsons1987 5 лет назад +6

    Fantastic video. I've read each book a dozen times and some of that theory crafting is too on point to ignore...and I had not thought of any of it. Keep making great content!!

  • @DayV_D
    @DayV_D 5 лет назад +8

    Those theories are so well done that I’m sure that if you show this video to Pat, he will say « Stop spoiling me !!!!! » 😆

  • @erikwolf6654
    @erikwolf6654 2 года назад +7

    When Kvothe meets Meluan he recognizes her but can’t place it.Kvothes mom was Meluans sister. Making Kvothe a Lackless.

    • @lj0339
      @lj0339 9 месяцев назад

      He is. It’s very too much on the nose like how hasn’t he considered it like we wouldn’t

  • @fictionfanatic3469
    @fictionfanatic3469 5 лет назад +10

    Wow! What an awesome theory video! Been waiting for months for a new video & that one was epic, such a fantastic job done! I'm currently listening to Name of the wind on audiobook & picking up on all the hidden things I missed when first reading it thanks to you 😁

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed! Yeah I took a few months off just because life's been busy but in that time I practiced a lot of new video editing stuff that I put into this video and will be doing with future ones! The next videos shouldn't be so far in between as this one :)
      The audiobook is fantastic, Nick Podehl does a great narration!

  • @jahmayakessler
    @jahmayakessler 5 лет назад +5

    Really impressive video! You are the only RUclips blogger I regularly follow and it's been fun to track your rise in skills and production. Love how you pull together various theories and make it cinematic. It feels like in this dark age of new content from Mr. Rothfuss, this...is all we have. 😢
    I admittedly reread these books due to your poking at all the things I missed the first time. Know that your videos are likely rekindling more than just my excitement for this dormant world we all miss. Looks like thousands agree.
    Goddamn I can't wait for that third book! But... If it's as satisfying as the first two, I will wait the rest of my life. I'll officially be pissed on my deathbed if status remains unchanged though.

  • @dalycedoes
    @dalycedoes 4 года назад +2

    Wow! Way to articulate some kickass, highly viable theories. I'm doing my first re-read right now with my boyfriend who has never read the books and I'm so eager for him to finish WMF so we can talk about all of this!! He hates spoilers but we will definitely be watching your videos again

  • @lalazalomon03
    @lalazalomon03 5 лет назад +6

    I am so glad I found your channel. You get me excited again about the series! And also, I was alot younger when I read the books for the first time. And now that I am reading them again, I love comparing new theories with your videos. Keep them coming! Hi from Mexico!!

    • @lalazalomon03
      @lalazalomon03 5 лет назад

      Also... are you a pewdiepie fan? The Bonus Theory thing got me thinking lol

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +1

      That's awesome to hear! Enjoy your reread! What I love about this series, is that with every reread I always catch something I didn't before. So I'll most likely reread them numerous times before the 3rd book is out!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +1

      @@lalazalomon03 I am! Haha good catch, I may have snagged the bonus theory idea from his bonus memes ;)

    • @lalazalomon03
      @lalazalomon03 5 лет назад +2

      @@CapturedInWords oh god so excited you replied! And YES. I understand so much more now! Rothfuss just has a way with storytelling... *brofist*

  • @randalltempelaar
    @randalltempelaar 4 года назад +4

    Just started watching your videos today, Captured in Words, and I'm really enjoying how you're digging into these finer details to work out these very strong theories. Turns out I missed quite a few things on my first 4 times through the books, lol. That's actually what draws me in so much with these works... that these stories are not just these quick setups that get built on as you go, but EVERYTHING seems to have a deeper meaning and some kind of mystery behind it. Every time I open these books and begin reading, I feel like I'm also working through a puzzle, trying to solve these incredible mysteries about the true history of this fantasy world. I could write a whole book here about all the things I love about these books, Lord knows I was about to! :D But it seems you already see these stories in the same light I do, and I can say that everything that happens in this story appears to have a connection to something else that I believe simply makes these works deeper and more complicated than you're average story.

  • @agmacdonald
    @agmacdonald 5 лет назад +5

    I haven't read either of these books yet, but I couldn't stop watching.

    • @doug.navarone2037
      @doug.navarone2037 5 лет назад +1

      I would wait till book 3. You don't want to be like us waiting for DOS, I'm on 8 years now. Sigh

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +2

      Oh wow! Haha I'm glad the video was interesting even for someone who hasn't read the books yet! Thanks for watching :)

    • @sepidehalipour8299
      @sepidehalipour8299 5 лет назад

      gooooo and readddddd

    • @ren9897
      @ren9897 3 года назад

      You have to read them their my favorite books! Definitely better then Harry Potter or lord of the rings in my opinion

  • @Boujonzu
    @Boujonzu 5 лет назад +2

    Great production dude. The reverse voice on the cthae was awesome

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад

      Thanks! Glad someone noticed the Cthaeh voice, I had fun making that effect

  • @maryfferromero4007
    @maryfferromero4007 5 лет назад +2

    Oh, lord. I had a rough time catching up since my first language isn’t English and the Spanish names of things are way different. But it didn’t stop it from being a great experience. Great video, bro!! ✨

  • @david6975
    @david6975 5 лет назад +3

    Hey dude this is great stuff. First video I've seen of yours and I can tell you put a lot of care and effort into it. I'm now a subscriber and I look forward to checking out your past videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @Hadrian1616
    @Hadrian1616 5 лет назад +3

    Excellent video and topic. Thanks for not making a video with just a talking head. The extra content and editing was sublime. Thanks.

  • @iancipollini9598
    @iancipollini9598 5 лет назад +1

    I love your videos. A lot of the ideas I hear fall in line with the natural progression of my thoughts on these topics. Very entertaining

  • @killingtimeslowly1
    @killingtimeslowly1 4 года назад +1

    Goddamn your attention to all the small details that all connect together is amazing! It really got me thinking and makes me love this series even more. Love your content!

  • @diannepolmanter7217
    @diannepolmanter7217 5 лет назад +5

    Loved loved loved this video! The Name of the Wind is definitely a favorite of mine.

  • @MidtownB0yZ
    @MidtownB0yZ 5 лет назад +4

    Great Intro! Your videos keep getting more and more awesome! I was thinking of another great video idea: Where will Kvothe go after he’s expelled from the University? We know he becomes an assassin right? So does he go back to The Adem? How will we find out about dear old Aunty Lackless? Plus let’s not forget Dennas sadistic patron?

  • @SunsetRo
    @SunsetRo Год назад +1

    the approach to music on this channel is impeccable! better than 99% out there

  • @gondil07
    @gondil07 5 лет назад +7

    Great video! I really love your work and look forward to it every time.
    Now, as every time you upload a KKC video, I really want to reread the books

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад +2

      Haha thank you! I think this video I probably put the most work into, and learned a lot of new editing techniques that I'll be putting into videos going forward :) Also I think sometime in the next few months I'm going to start a big Kingkiller buddy read, so everyone can read it together with me and chat about it. Then at the end I'll make an in-depth summary video for each book!

  • @arun279
    @arun279 5 лет назад +10

    Love your KKC theory videos. Great job!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад

      Thanks! While frustrating with some technical issues I ran into, this one was overall a lot of fun to make!

  • @rileyobyrne6595
    @rileyobyrne6595 5 лет назад +15

    This is your best video yet!!!!

  • @cardboard3965
    @cardboard3965 3 года назад +2

    Mate this is still an insane video. It just baffles by how much effort must have been put into such a perfect view

  • @ForrestRooney
    @ForrestRooney 3 года назад +2

    These books are amazing. I listened to the audiobooks and I’ve never been so enwrapped in a book.

  • @ryanratchford2530
    @ryanratchford2530 5 лет назад +8

    Your videos are always so well done

  • @SuperDoctor9
    @SuperDoctor9 5 лет назад +27

    Great video! I absolutely love this series and you're theory/lore videos are awesome

  • @TheMalcolmElliot
    @TheMalcolmElliot 5 лет назад +1

    This was a very well made video. Thanks a lot. Loved the content!

  • @nikkihuggins6406
    @nikkihuggins6406 5 лет назад +2

    About time dude! I love your lore theory videos!!!!👍🏽🙏🏽🤘🏽🤙🏾✌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽🔥

  • @jennyrabern-hollifield9616
    @jennyrabern-hollifield9616 5 лет назад +4

    This is the first video of yours that I’ve seen! I’m a huge fan of the KKC this is great content and I am now subscribing!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад

      That's awesome, thanks! Glad you found my channel! :)

  • @galaxywolf5590
    @galaxywolf5590 5 лет назад +12

    Best video yet!!

  • @mrcee5442
    @mrcee5442 5 лет назад +1

    Ugh...trying to forget about this series, tired of waiting. Then you release this and I gotta know how it ends! Sigh, great video.

  • @p.e.gilbertauthor3036
    @p.e.gilbertauthor3036 4 года назад

    Jay, this video is fantastic as always. Your passion, knowledge and style of delivery are all outstanding. Like you, I am eagerly awaiting what we will find on the other side of the Four-Plate Door 😉

  • @michaelfallentine4347
    @michaelfallentine4347 5 лет назад +6

    4:55 - reminds me of when everyone got bridge 4 tattoos on the shoulder before oathbringer came out

  • @neoriv9468
    @neoriv9468 5 лет назад +17

    As lately RUclips is not working very well, i would say that behind the door is an effective notifications algorithm. And it is not gonna notifie u properly until Pat decides to open the door in the 3rd book. Nice video btw.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  5 лет назад

      Merciful Tehlu, it all makes sense now. In that case I'm hoping (even more then I was) that Pat will release that 3rd book soon.

  • @Alle330
    @Alle330 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome video man!! Loved it!

  • @Jords329
    @Jords329 4 года назад

    Thank you for this video. You gave me goose bumps when I didn’t realize like half the hints you said, and pat’s hints

  • @ocdetails
    @ocdetails 3 года назад +3

    Great video, my man! It's guys like you who could basically write book 3 for Pat. Actually, it is guys like you who have made Pat's job incredibly difficult. He knows there are fans out there who know his books better than he does. Books 1 and 2 set up a lot of the mystery and he didn't have to worry too much about solving anything or answering any questions. But book three is going to have to explain a lot of stuff. At this point it is going to look like either fans guessed right or that Pat ripped them off. I wonder if what is taking so long to get the third book out is because he keeps changing the answers to his loose ends. Who knows.... ? All I know is that I'll be really happy when his publisher takes the rights away from him for breech of contract in taking too damn long to finish the third book and finds someone to finish it for him. Forget his obligation to the fans to finish the story, but he has a contractual obligation to his publisher. He signed on for a trilogy and he needs to deliver a trilogy. For his publisher to say she hasn't seen word one of the third book leads me to believe Pat is in a serious rut and just doesn't have the balls to admit that he is nowhere near close to delivering a product.

  • @mtgmight353
    @mtgmight353 5 лет назад +12

    BONUS THEORY!!

  • @seanpazz
    @seanpazz 4 года назад +1

    I like the idea that the name of the wind will open the door. Maybe like Iax/Jax flute.

  • @tylerbartlett1213
    @tylerbartlett1213 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing content, I love these books so much and you do an incredible job on these videos

  • @crgaming8102
    @crgaming8102 5 лет назад +6

    I literally checked everyday to see if you uploaded a new video and I thougth you were patrickrothfussing, but you came.
    I was worried !!!

  • @zfuria8952
    @zfuria8952 5 лет назад +5

    There is so much corroborated evidence I can’t imagine it’s coincidence, I hope all these questions get answers in the final book.

  • @brucethompson4011
    @brucethompson4011 5 лет назад +1

    Fantastic video! Keep up the good work!

  • @bigburkefamily7
    @bigburkefamily7 5 лет назад +2

    I believe the 4 panel door is the door of Stone. The idea that it might be opened by music is fascinating!

  • @Darkalen
    @Darkalen 4 года назад +3

    Still sitting here with Master Namer throwing pebbles at the door a year later. We believe that bananas are most likely not behind the door. Otherwise we're starting not to care at this point.

  • @WhiteHouliganFilms
    @WhiteHouliganFilms 5 лет назад +6

    You should really watch the video where Rothfuss tells us how to pronounce the names of his characters / locations.

    • @shellyjelly5975
      @shellyjelly5975 3 года назад

      I get it but... When reading a book people pronounce things in their heads, that word comes to mean something to them and even if they learn the proper way of speaking it that word just starts to feel wrong when spoken and it loses some of its meaning, I understand the desire for a authenticity but there is much more to word pronouncements that aren't defined in articulation until after the connection has taken hold so I tend to find it acceptable. Not trying to change your mind just offering a different perspective

  • @biscuitmessiah1774
    @biscuitmessiah1774 5 лет назад +1

    Blimey my head hurts. Incredible thinking and I'm definately converted to some of these!

  • @KarentheGreat247
    @KarentheGreat247 5 лет назад +1

    You are blowing my mind right now!

  • @chlorrdismal
    @chlorrdismal 5 лет назад +6

    Captured in Words for book (meme) review when?

  • @tjfromreno
    @tjfromreno 5 лет назад +3

    Have you read Bloodsong yet??

  • @agoodlittlewitch
    @agoodlittlewitch 5 лет назад +2

    Theory videos are my favorite ones that you do!

  • @zahraalmaghaslah9881
    @zahraalmaghaslah9881 5 лет назад +1

    I truly appreciate your content. Thank you

  • @Elias-cf5yt
    @Elias-cf5yt 5 лет назад +5

    Great video, i know it'd be hard but if you put subtitles It would be amazing haha, im spanish and i cant understand everything you say😅

  • @bailesie
    @bailesie 5 лет назад +39

    "K-vothe" **eye twitch**

    • @SquirrelMasterT1
      @SquirrelMasterT1 4 года назад +10

      "El - o -din", "A - myr", "A - ri" **twitching intensifies**

    • @TheCptCoy
      @TheCptCoy 4 года назад +4

      Literally how its pronounced though...

    • @matthewrideout426
      @matthewrideout426 4 года назад

      @@TheCptCoy the audiobook pronounces them differently and honestly better than El-oh-din

    • @emprendeconmarina
      @emprendeconmarina 4 года назад +2

      @@TheCptCoy ruclips.net/video/MPEB6NAGoYk/видео.html&feature=share

    • @mischiefkel
      @mischiefkel 4 года назад +2

      @@TheCptCoy literally not how it's pronounced. Kvothe says early on in the first book that it's pronounced as a q sound. Like Quothe.

  • @rameo89
    @rameo89 4 года назад

    Great video mate!

  • @duh7163
    @duh7163 5 лет назад +2

    That was a really good theory tbh. I never thought that Iax/Jax as a that important character. Kingkiller always surprise me with the detail and hints it has. Everytime I read it over, I realize and find new things that I missed before.
    19:18 the door you mean can be the Black Door which mentioned in The Slow Regard of Silent Things. The Black Door could be related to The Four-Plate Door or Iax. In that book Auri looks pretty scared from Black Door when she thinks about it. Also she got closer to that "Black Door" by mistake. That time she got stressed out and scared really hard and run back as far as I remembered. It's not the only thing she scares but that was especially weird. There is something very special about that door too.

    • @duh7163
      @duh7163 5 лет назад

      Also editing looks amazing. I need those animated wallpapers you have in this video.

  • @odysseus2878
    @odysseus2878 5 лет назад +3

    Love from switzerland

  • @virgurilla4084
    @virgurilla4084 5 лет назад +7

    #NotificationSquad

  • @TheBench97
    @TheBench97 5 лет назад +1

    incredible video mate

  • @jessw4350
    @jessw4350 3 года назад +1

    Okay I’m kinda late to the fandom! But I have an interesting theory about how to open the four plated door!
    So! In the poem it says that it needs a name that is forsworn right?
    Well I think it needs more than one name! Four names to be exact! The door has four plates that each have a hole in the center right? and the word meaning truth is inscribed in the middle of the door.
    So I think that in order to open the door or at least each plate of the door, that you need to speak/whisper the TRUE name of a thing into the hole in each plate! So what names do each plate need? Well I think it’s pretty obvious that one plate is the name of the wind, seeing as it’s pretty important throughout the books and is literally the name of the first book! So what about the other three plates? Well if the door is a connection to the Fae world then it would make sense for the door to be made of the elements of both worlds which I think are Wind, Stone(earth), Ice, and Fire. The four basic elements. I think some elements only exist in one realm like iron. Iron hurts the Fae because it isn’t from their realm. Similarly I wonder if copper was created in the Fae realm by the shapers and that is why the knowers don’t know the name of it.
    So now the question is who will speak each name into the door?
    I think that Wind will obviously be Spoken by Kvothe. And maybe Fella will say the name of Stone as it’s mentioned she knows it. Not really sure about Fire and Ice though… my guesses are
    Fire=sun=gold=Auri?
    Ice=cold=ash=master ash=master ash will teach Denna the name of Ice?=Denna
    Let me know what you guys think!

  • @apartmentaquariums
    @apartmentaquariums 5 лет назад +3

    Puppet is amyr, going through all the books coming in, and removing/changing them. The door to is just a stair way down to the amyrs old meeting hall. Since they all gathered there , the university was built around there tower/tombs. Puppet is also Manets son, thought they dont know, Manet and his gf years before got into the 4plate door and found the meeting hall, they found a letter directing them to a location of the present meeting hall. There she joins the amyr, but Manet declined. The amyr, they spoke his true name and wiped his memory back to before they got into the door. Changing it to a fight and them separating. Forgetting the months they traveled together. she found herself pregnant but his memory was gone. She raised puppet as a amyr”that’s why puppet seems odd”. In the end kvothe will kill puppet getting the title king killer. Manet was the 2 child to the king of vintas, kvothe patron brother. Though he never want to leave the university he will when his brother dies, at his coronation his old gf comes back and introduces his kid. Aura is the box the part of the moon is held in. When she dies at kvothes hand, an accident, It rips the moon from the fey, and that’s why the fey are attack the human realm. Hence kvothe saying. Bast u know as well as I, this is all my fault. Kvothe is hiding from Denna since she gave him up to her patron, he managed to destroy the patron, but denna was made to take mr ash’s place in the chandrein, and she wants revenge. Hope this was entertaining

  • @nhatdam8053
    @nhatdam8053 5 лет назад +12

    Dude... Please pronounce the name Kvothe correctly.

    • @TheDrackhenslager
      @TheDrackhenslager 5 лет назад +2

      Nhat Dam every time he says “Ka-vothe” I slip out of the video...

    • @Hiyaaydi
      @Hiyaaydi 5 лет назад +2

      "My name is Kvothe, pronounced nearly the same as Quothe."

  • @camillawatson3235
    @camillawatson3235 5 лет назад +1

    I think that maybe a name or part of a name is hidden behind the door. It seems that copper is not only a metal that namers have no control over (most of the Elodin's room in Haven is made of copper or has copper vains running through it), but copper can also hold a name, especially when combined with iron. First of all , Kvothe's thrice-locked chest has a copper lock and an iron lock. Secondly, when Kvothe makes up that story about Chronicler, he sais that "the Chronicler can' control you if you have your name hidden somewhere safe. The high king's name is written in a book of glass, hidden in a box of copper. And that box is locked away in a great iron chest." Also Jax traps the moon in a black iron box, and the Lackless box is made out of wood that contains metals "probably iron and copper". And if copper and iron can contain part of someone's name, maybe that is what happened to Kvothe. Maybe Kote is not just a name he uses to hide his true identity, maybe he is literally not fully Kvothe anymore, which is why he doesn't play music anymore, can't really do sympathy and has lost some of his fighting skills.

    • @sierraguru6942
      @sierraguru6942 4 года назад

      If you check the aftermath of the Fishery fire you'll see Kvothe being told to expect disaster every seven years. The word for Diaster is Kote. Kvothe changed his name to hide, which is dangerous, but the name he chose was a really bad idea.

  • @soulriffmusic
    @soulriffmusic Год назад

    The last lines of the Lackless Rhymes stand out to me specifically. "She's been dreaming and not sleeping." and "Then comes that which comes with sleeping." This majorly hints at dreaming. Fela says that she dreamt about that door. Perhaps, dreaming is involved in getting the door opened.