Maria Ho FOLDS A SET On The Flop?! - Insane Poker Hand (WSOP Europe)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июн 2018
  • Maria Ho has had more success than most at the WSOP Main Event. This surely is part of the reason she was recently inducted into the Women In Poker Hall Of Fame. However, even the best sometimes make mistakes. In this hand, from the World Series of Poker Europe final table, she makes an unorthodox decision that was felt 'round the poker world: folding a SET on the flop! Let's analyze this.
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Комментарии • 3 тыс.

  • @DougPolkPoker
    @DougPolkPoker  5 лет назад +50

    I'm streaming video games on Twitch today. Join me: www.twitch.tv/DougPolkPoker

    • @HunterWillis
      @HunterWillis 5 лет назад +1

      WoW? Or a game grown-ups play?

    • @thepuppetstv
      @thepuppetstv 5 лет назад

      who knew SNooky was so good at poker, bruh?

    • @trousersnake81
      @trousersnake81 5 лет назад

      you should get into the movie business, combine 21 and moneyball into a movie about GTO poker and how the shift to tool-assistance is revolutionizing the game

    • @KieranEboard
      @KieranEboard 5 лет назад +1

      Doug Polk Poker I watch most of your video when I have spare time.I am in China,love poker. I Love your style. I played Warcraft for years like you. Now I own a company meepoboard. And I want to send you a meepo board as gift, you may like ride a while it for clear your mind as kind of rest before poker. Could you email me your address for delivery. Kieran@meepoboard.com

    • @sotires5533
      @sotires5533 5 лет назад +2

      Hey guys I'm a young healthy popular millionaire, you know what I'll do? Sit in front of the computer all day playing video games! Yeah!

  • @millieatr
    @millieatr 4 года назад +1642

    For newcomers who don't understand poker , you win by making the most noise with ur chips

    • @IceWarrior101
      @IceWarrior101 4 года назад +7

      You also need to hit cards though... aggression will make those who wish to just call for hopes and dreams to fold

    • @terpdx
      @terpdx 4 года назад +82

      Also how high you can stack your chips. Your chips increase in value the higher they are off the table.

    • @alectorellishiddenchips1725
      @alectorellishiddenchips1725 4 года назад +18

      and not being all loosey goosey at the table

    • @patriciastickel1420
      @patriciastickel1420 4 года назад +2

      brad fiser thank you for clearing that up for me...

    • @grassCrow
      @grassCrow 4 года назад +1

      T.J. 182 yeah. really annoying. its there way of being cool

  • @GreenredProductions
    @GreenredProductions 5 лет назад +374

    They need Tony G on that table, he would speed it up with his bike.

    • @ldmb1966
      @ldmb1966 3 года назад +4

      “It’s time to retire. It’s bike time”

    • @markreynolds1436
      @markreynolds1436 2 года назад

      Tony G livens up any table. Doesn't even have to be Poker...

    • @jackfiercetree5205
      @jackfiercetree5205 2 года назад

      It's Phil who rides the bike, after G is done bullying him.

    • @ClintEatswood
      @ClintEatswood 11 месяцев назад +1

      They play online! JUST A CLICK OF THE BUTTON BUT THEY WASTE MY TIME HERE!

  • @rockybattenfield1132
    @rockybattenfield1132 4 года назад +293

    The blinds went up 3 times in that hand

    • @huskyjerk
      @huskyjerk 3 года назад +16

      And the Berlin Wall went up AND it came down.

    • @jacksansbury3778
      @jacksansbury3778 3 года назад +1

      @@huskyjerk hahaha

  • @meldeebueno
    @meldeebueno 4 года назад +71

    That was so slow the blinds started seeing.

  • @NascarAllOut
    @NascarAllOut 5 лет назад +1147

    Exciting Poker action! 12 minutes in and i haven't even seen a flop.

    • @DegenCash
      @DegenCash 5 лет назад +18

      NascarAllOut Polk is greedy fucking idiot

    • @skinrule1
      @skinrule1 5 лет назад +29

      Thanks for the heads up. I'm 5 minutes in and bored to tears already. These people should get over themselves and just play. Ridiculous

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 5 лет назад +10

      Yeah, Doug in top right screen ruined it for me. I don’t mind some perspective, but he went on and on and on and on.....

    • @saggybobby3733
      @saggybobby3733 5 лет назад +26

      They take that long because they are contemplating the possible hands on the table. Maybe if you did the same you wouldn't be bored

    • @einarsgevelis
      @einarsgevelis 4 года назад +6

      @@saggybobby3733 Not sure, for example, Daniel Negreanu says the same, WTF why you should take SOOOO LONG!!

  • @KDBBM
    @KDBBM 4 года назад +214

    When you watch these hands you realize that most of poker is just waiting around

    • @powerlifting1012
      @powerlifting1012 3 года назад

      Most big hands I would imagine

    • @joeharris4353
      @joeharris4353 3 года назад +10

      Its so annoying.. play fkn cards.. i hate waiting for ppl to make a obvious action.. and thats about 80% or more of all actions in poker if u have ANY understanding of the game..

    • @TheBroLounge
      @TheBroLounge 3 года назад +7

      This is mind numbing slow. The times I’ve played the WSOP main I saw nothing like this.

    • @itzmurda27
      @itzmurda27 3 года назад +3

      Fuck waiting that long I would’ve called Klock three times

    • @shaundgb7367
      @shaundgb7367 2 года назад

      @@TheBroLounge I'm watching video and around 20 minute mark and paused just to comment on how long a wait this is.
      I cannot imagine having waited this long for Maria to make her call and not call the clock on her at this point. You had plenty of time to make your decision. Pre-flop you even had plenty of time. I'd feel more than ok to call clock on her by now.

  • @iambadatpickingusernames6669
    @iambadatpickingusernames6669 2 года назад +84

    I've listened to a lot of Maria Ho's commentary and tournament analysis, and I've come to understand why she doesn't win that many. She takes this really tight, ICM cognizant line way too early in tournaments, and ends up just not having much chips by the finale table when she makes it (she's even talked about this, saying she usually enters final tables short stacked). The lesson to learn from this is that sometimes in the early & middle stages of tournaments you must take substantial risk to try to accumulate chips to win with. That's why so many of the top tourney crushers have a below average In The Money %. They take risks and bust when it's their time too bust, so that when it's their time to get to final tables, they can finish in the top 2/3 more often. This is especially true in top heavy payout structure, where all the incentive is to win.

    • @alexbentley486
      @alexbentley486 2 года назад +4

      Lol she’s won over 4 million.

    • @iambadatpickingusernames6669
      @iambadatpickingusernames6669 2 года назад +8

      @@alexbentley486 she has obviously made a living in poker. I’m saying this is why she doesn’t win tournaments, not that she isn’t profitable.

    • @alexbentley486
      @alexbentley486 2 года назад +3

      @@iambadatpickingusernames6669 she won 4m from tournaments…

    • @roccorocco1979
      @roccorocco1979 Год назад +5

      Really wrote all this just to be wrong

    • @Biggsbets
      @Biggsbets Год назад +1

      I really enjoyed your comment, gives me a new look at played betting heavy with k/j at times and valuing chips a certain way mid tournament

  • @ericpetersen8155
    @ericpetersen8155 5 лет назад +497

    At the rate they are playing that tournament mite end in 2026. When did it start 1998?

    • @ericpetersen8155
      @ericpetersen8155 5 лет назад +3

      LEE KING SNATCH - I was just kidding. Like AM kidding bet.
      However your correct I’m a rail bird not a player. I play backgammon & pool.

    • @titmusspaultpaul5
      @titmusspaultpaul5 5 лет назад +22

      Yeah, that was like watching grass grow it was so slow.

    • @andreaspettersson8950
      @andreaspettersson8950 5 лет назад +3

      Zzzzzz i managed 2 minutes of chips being used as noise makers...then i went to a differnt poker channel

    • @JaredDavidson
      @JaredDavidson 5 лет назад +1

      mite....lol

    • @scrubfive9239
      @scrubfive9239 5 лет назад

      @volcano hi yeah I do too but not $10,000 buy-in tournaments. It's worth thinking through every decision for those stakes.

  • @strooomon
    @strooomon 5 лет назад +118

    I fell asleep watching. Luckily I woke up and the hand was still going.

  • @sonnycusa
    @sonnycusa 3 года назад +55

    Maria needed the heart and commitment on that hand, she definitely qualified!!!

    • @theMagos
      @theMagos 3 года назад +1

      She thought it was too much heart

    • @mercutio6623
      @mercutio6623 3 года назад +1

      @@theMagos 5050 (in her mind) that he flushed...yet, you never know. The beauty of life is taking a leap of faith...doesn't matter the outcome, you chose to go for it!

    • @keven1991
      @keven1991 2 года назад +3

      She needs Tony G to give her some poker lessons 😂😂

    • @IAmAlmightyGod
      @IAmAlmightyGod Год назад

      @@mercutio6623 no way he raised preflop like he had AK or a pair, not suited connectors

  • @Yadeehoo
    @Yadeehoo 5 лет назад +371

    HI, I'm form the 3000's and we're still waiting on the outcome of that hand. Anyone here from the 4000's ??

    • @anoadmin8178
      @anoadmin8178 4 года назад

      can we relabel this when tanks get together

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 4 года назад

      Nah

    • @ryandowd7040
      @ryandowd7040 4 года назад

      OMG WHY DO THEY DO THAT THING WITH THE CHIPS IT'S SO ANNOYING
      Same sort of thing people who have never played real poker say.

    • @blacktemplar5970
      @blacktemplar5970 4 года назад

      LMFAO that's the best comment I have ever seen

    • @kaiseremotion854
      @kaiseremotion854 4 года назад +1

      @@ryandowd7040
      I find the sound really soothing, though idk why they do it
      (Ik its a joke)

  • @Lexor888
    @Lexor888 4 года назад +17

    For a long time I have been wondering what it feels like to watch paint dry or gras to grow, now I feel enlighted. Thanks man.

  • @jacobrichardson1455
    @jacobrichardson1455 4 года назад +100

    I have never seen such a slow, thought out, horrendous pre-flop call with 10's, only to flop a set...and FOLD!!?? Maria Ho must have been Quad mining... ;)

    • @davidmackie5850
      @davidmackie5850 4 года назад

      Shes high

    • @InnerTubes
      @InnerTubes 4 года назад +7

      Shes won A LOT and took 6th here...must have a good reason for this strategy

    • @tyleryoung8255
      @tyleryoung8255 4 года назад +20

      with multiple players to act behind her, she has a tough decision, if she is up against a flush with 2 others remaining to act, she needs to board to pair or a 10 to come. Leaving her with 6-8 outs. If it would be heads up, she most likely makes the call. But with others to act behind, that can easily come over the top, her play is justified.

    • @tyleryoung8255
      @tyleryoung8255 3 года назад +2

      @Bob Yes it pairs the board, but i think i was implying it would give her quads, and the nuts

    • @elmeringles8442
      @elmeringles8442 3 года назад +19

      @@tyleryoung8255 The original 3 bettor shoves and over bets the pot, making a flopped flush unlikely, but a nut draw more probable. That being said, his percieved A of hearts would act as a blocker, so the 2 opponents behind her would probably not have a flush either. This was not a tough spot, but rather, tough to watch.

  • @LudwigVanKoopa
    @LudwigVanKoopa 5 лет назад +240

    20:51 She folds. Next video.

    • @greatgolfer23
      @greatgolfer23 3 года назад +2

      You are the real mvp

    • @theMagos
      @theMagos 3 года назад +1

      Didn't have to watch, just read the title

  • @upbreaker7055
    @upbreaker7055 3 года назад +50

    biggest take away: we need more shot clocks.

  • @eddie5185
    @eddie5185 5 лет назад +298

    Watching these tourney players tank forever before making a decision is torture.

    • @eddie5185
      @eddie5185 5 лет назад +46

      This is one of the reasons why poker isn't gaining new players. Who wants to sit at a table with this type of shit going on? It isn't fun. At least cash games still have a somewhat steady flow. Definitely still some tanking but no where at the level shown in this video. They should be ashamed for taking so long and calling themselves professionals.

    • @mdefp5168
      @mdefp5168 5 лет назад +28

      They say the tournament is still going on to this day

    • @JiveDadson
      @JiveDadson 5 лет назад +6

      When Kempe was tanking over whether to call the re-raise, I was brain-shouting, "What are you wasting everyone's time for? You can't raise, and if you call, you don't end the betting. Fold already, you maroon." Then he called.

    • @jdicari9534
      @jdicari9534 5 лет назад +1

      That's why you speed up the vid 2x

    • @lucasng4712
      @lucasng4712 5 лет назад +2

      lmao idiots

  • @SuperDangerousMouse
    @SuperDangerousMouse 5 лет назад +8

    Doug, great video as usual. I'm wondering if you could make some videos in the future with having villains' hands hidden. So in this case, it would be nice to only show Maria Ho's hand only. I think it makes it hard to remain objective and make good decisions knowing opponents' holding. Either way, your content is extremely helpful and very enlightening. Much appreciated.

  • @escaperoomleander1948
    @escaperoomleander1948 5 лет назад +270

    Doug, for the love of all that is holy, EDIT. Someone tanks, cut it, put a graphic: "Two minutes fifteen second later."
    The commentators aren't being entertaining for that 2:15, so do us a favor and cut that shit out.
    This video should have been 7 minutes long.

    • @tmartin555
      @tmartin555 5 лет назад +9

      Amen!! Listen to this Doug!!

    • @terpdx
      @terpdx 4 года назад +15

      What makes it completely torturous is that he shows the entire round of chip shuffling and poker filibustering THEN goes back over the whole thing for his commentary! Just put the 2 together (but I guess that makes for less ad time in the video).

    • @laurasanchez7105
      @laurasanchez7105 4 года назад

      But what about the ads though??

    • @roycexkwon213
      @roycexkwon213 3 года назад

      thank you

    • @alexjung9724
      @alexjung9724 3 года назад

      Fuck you

  • @gaborkiss650
    @gaborkiss650 4 года назад +7

    I don’t think many people would accuse Maria Ho of being a very good player.

  • @MrWilliamerickson
    @MrWilliamerickson 5 лет назад +191

    Holy sheit talk about the slowest hand ever played !

    • @briancleary5054
      @briancleary5054 5 лет назад +3

      MrWilliamerickson if I were on that table I would call for a pillow and duvet😡😡😡😡😡

    • @winthorpetrois
      @winthorpetrois 4 года назад

      That's what keeps me out of the game, except for an occasional nickel-and-dime event.

    • @gtaylor9218
      @gtaylor9218 4 года назад

      Why on earth isnt there a time limit

  • @jonphanspromotions
    @jonphanspromotions 5 лет назад +30

    I want my 21 minutes back Doug, you can keep the 43 seconds.

  • @adamgoldberg9950
    @adamgoldberg9950 4 года назад +40

    'It's not the best of sets. A hand like pocket jacks can be ahead of you, but it's not too likely especially because there's a jack on the board." Now there's a head scratcher...

    • @golfmaniac007
      @golfmaniac007 4 года назад

      he didn't say that did he? i wasn't able to watch the whole clip.

    • @TheAvenstar
      @TheAvenstar 4 года назад

      Yeah. The head scratcher is, Who let her out of the insane asylum?

  • @domward8352
    @domward8352 5 лет назад

    I've watched a lot of your videos and for me this one is my favourite. Some very good points made.

  • @Chris-oy2iy
    @Chris-oy2iy 5 лет назад +479

    If you're not willing to call there you may as well stop playing.

    • @blank5210
      @blank5210 5 лет назад +17

      Agreed

    • @shahrukh.f4790
      @shahrukh.f4790 5 лет назад +62

      Chris 9792 actually there was icm pressure... 2 shortish stacks make her fold acceptable. Best case scenario she's 2:1 fav, worst case she's crushed by nutflush/midling flush or pocket jacks with 2 players behind to act. Doug is pushing his brand and he's ultra aggressive tourny player who doesn't consider lot of these things as seriously as he should. Math is math it's less flashy to make such tight folds but the best tourny players who have proven tourny track records over years do it all the time. Its more of a brand thing for doug.. Cash was his main game so he could afford this style though it's def not optimal. If you don't understand ICM please look it up its not as simple as if she thinks she's ahead she should jam being the point because laddering up has lot of value longterm though it might not sell as well to your casual audience.

    • @gustavofiorentini515
      @gustavofiorentini515 5 лет назад +49

      The Anti Alternate Reality if u call 3 bet with 10s What do u spect to flop? Trips no? Lo donk fold.

    • @flappy7373
      @flappy7373 5 лет назад +53

      In the super suuuuuuper unlikely scenario that she's crushed by a flopped flush, she's got a relatively decent chance to hit a boat. A stronger chance to hit that boat than the chance for a player to be holding the nut flush would've been. Admit it man, she just got scared and slipped up. That's all this was.

    • @shahrukh.f4790
      @shahrukh.f4790 5 лет назад +14

      Gustavo Fiorentini That exact texture of flop is among the worst. You are doing a classic beginner mistake understand relative strength of your hand compared to other people's complete ranges in that spot rather than the absolute strength of your hand.

  • @BurtHandsome
    @BurtHandsome 5 лет назад +188

    Could we please speed through the first 6 mins or so of them posturing in future videos?

    • @BurtHandsome
      @BurtHandsome 5 лет назад +15

      I get it’s important but you could easily fast forward and talk what they’re doing. 6 mins of the camera focusing on them thinking is ridiculous

    • @erich1380
      @erich1380 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah it's fucking brutal and so awkward like I'm I supposed to find this person staring off into nothing interesting or something lol

    • @10000rambos
      @10000rambos 5 лет назад +4

      It’s probably longer in reality!!! 😂

    • @StuartFerguson55
      @StuartFerguson55 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah, that was brutal. Thank god the other two players snap folded after Maria folded the best hand. If they took as a long as the first two I'd still be watching or doing something else.

    • @321Arrival
      @321Arrival 5 лет назад +4

      someone call a clock

  • @relaxinwithjaxin911
    @relaxinwithjaxin911 5 лет назад +38

    really.. nobody else caught the guy winking at 4:21? LMFAO

    • @pjani14
      @pjani14 4 года назад +2

      Nice catch, he clearly wanted a piece of Bicknell's action.

    • @brianwalker2201
      @brianwalker2201 4 года назад

      Seen that 😂

  • @christophereolon4249
    @christophereolon4249 4 года назад +48

    I did a 12k puzzle pieces during this hand.

  • @sasukexazn
    @sasukexazn 5 лет назад +234

    why call a 3 bet with pocket 10s and hit your best card and fold??? if she's gonna play that tight/weak then she shouldve folded preflop.

    • @karlacontreras5058
      @karlacontreras5058 5 лет назад +7

      jarofcandy exactly my point. Poor Maria so many years of experience and playing scare. There's hope for amateur players like me!

    • @durazzano14
      @durazzano14 5 лет назад +48

      Her card was surrounded by a straight/flush draw type board. If its rainbow I bet she would have snapped it off but that was too connected of a board to call off her tournament with.

    • @glenn8452
      @glenn8452 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah, I"m more of a gambler in poker and would have called. If he flopped a flush, so be it, you still have outs.

    • @paulpena5040
      @paulpena5040 5 лет назад +23

      of course that's why she folded but it's still a bad fold. It's extremely rare to flop a flush and most who do are NOT going to JAM. Sure someone behind could have a flush but you can't play scared like that. Not every set mining situation is going to give you a picture perfect board and if it does it'll probably kill your action anyhow. Even if she WERE behind the board still pairs 30% of the time giving her a nice boat.

    • @davidhoekstra4620
      @davidhoekstra4620 5 лет назад +1

      I would think not many people are calling a three-bet pre-flop with a preponderance of middle connectors in their range.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 5 лет назад +10

    I watched this video and now I have to call an ambulance -- I actually chewed my foot off waiting for these people to bet.

  • @ntnrocket1
    @ntnrocket1 4 года назад +7

    These players are sitting there thinking, "I'm playing in a WSOP event, and a chess match breaks out!!"

  • @francis5944
    @francis5944 2 года назад +1

    thank you Doug, I been playing my tournament more aggressive and fearless :)

  • @TheWorldAccordingtoJim
    @TheWorldAccordingtoJim 5 лет назад +174

    Thank you for tournament clocks.... this was brutal to watch with no time clock.

    • @OmahaRiverDonkey
      @OmahaRiverDonkey 5 лет назад +11

      What's worse is that instead of analyzing the hand during the dead time, this video actually rewinds it and extends the pain with rewind analysis. 22 minutes to watch what we knew was going to happen via the title.

    • @ryandowd7040
      @ryandowd7040 5 лет назад +4

      Tournament clocks are the product of the millennial attention span.

    • @theDitchdigger456
      @theDitchdigger456 5 лет назад +6

      durr hurr the millennials @@ryandowd7040

    • @ryandowd7040
      @ryandowd7040 5 лет назад +1

      @@theDitchdigger456 Well there was no tourney clock before millennials, so...

    • @theDitchdigger456
      @theDitchdigger456 5 лет назад +5

      @@ryandowd7040 There were also no tourney clocks before Obama either so we might as well blame it on him too, huh?

  • @JeffBoski
    @JeffBoski 5 лет назад +244

    More tanking is better

    • @thexfale
      @thexfale 5 лет назад +8

      Fold is ok but the long tank is even better!

    • @antnee8377
      @antnee8377 5 лет назад +9

      He who Tank 30 minute arways find fold button...

    • @jakel97
      @jakel97 5 лет назад +14

      Yep, love the tanking, was hoping they could mug for the camera for another 20 minutes. Love playing poker, watching it is painful...it’s a frickin game, not negotiations to end WW2!

    • @DJDement714
      @DJDement714 5 лет назад +5

      It sure is!! You can get a 20+ minute RUclips video out of a 2 street hand with standard play (except for folding a set after flat calling a 3 bet).

    • @johnryan3102
      @johnryan3102 5 лет назад +4

      unbearable asswipes

  • @Scottney
    @Scottney 5 лет назад +118

    Maybe buy improved editing software so we can turn the 22 minute video into the actual 3 minutes of action

    • @XoldnewsX
      @XoldnewsX 3 года назад +2

      Yeah why doesnt this guy just re upload copyrighted material to his youtube channel without adding anything of value to it?

    • @wolverine9632
      @wolverine9632 3 года назад

      I would have liked to see a sped up fast-forward with Benny Hill playing in the background

  • @williamsaghian4969
    @williamsaghian4969 2 года назад

    I swear every single video you make you always say “I would sometimes advocate for a raise here” 😂😂😂

  • @chriise
    @chriise 5 лет назад +7

    The moment she let go of those cards her face showed she knew it was the wrong decision

  • @ollieknoxx
    @ollieknoxx 5 лет назад +130

    Slow play kills poker.
    I get these were big decisions but still, got to be faster.

    • @merica76
      @merica76 5 лет назад +16

      It's an epidemic and it's unbearable, especially if you're in the tournament.

    • @austinshappi27
      @austinshappi27 5 лет назад +9

      Couldn't agree more. The wait is so unbearable. Especially preflop by both Bicknell and Ho.

    • @theDiReW0lf
      @theDiReW0lf 5 лет назад +7

      misomiso I mean at that rate, I guess they played 13 hands a day?

    • @movieswithmatticus5469
      @movieswithmatticus5469 5 лет назад +2

      For real dude. I tried watching the final table that had Chris Ferguson at it and it was really painful.

    • @asianlivesmatter3634
      @asianlivesmatter3634 5 лет назад

      misomiso damn right..getting sick of TV poker

  • @cmartin999
    @cmartin999 2 года назад +2

    these players who take 5 minutes to make one decision are the same ones 20 tabling online 😂😂

  • @snotnosedlilkid
    @snotnosedlilkid 5 лет назад +12

    I took a two week holiday in the Maldives when Doug started talking and got back for the end of the video.It was nice.Bit warm.

  • @doubleaalanderson4571
    @doubleaalanderson4571 3 года назад +4

    "This is how you win tournaments. You bet and raise against the weakest player at the table who happens to lay down the only hand that can beat you."

  • @blackbeltmisha
    @blackbeltmisha 5 лет назад +244

    Alternate title: "A Ho gives it up very easily"

  • @Slimjim260
    @Slimjim260 Год назад +5

    Phil Laak is correct, I’d rather loose than fold the winning hand! Maria had to take that chance

  • @davidw9272
    @davidw9272 5 лет назад +87

    They need to impose a time limit between betting and folding. Ten minutes of watching constant chip flipping is BORING!

    • @VeeKow
      @VeeKow 5 лет назад

      Not just that, the clock doesn't stop unless it's h4h. People need time to think sure and it's for a lot of money sometimes, but you gotta make decisions too lol

  • @rd-pd8xb
    @rd-pd8xb 5 лет назад +8

    Not sure I've seen a player who was a favorite pre-flop and on the flop still fold.

  • @Ze.NiTH_
    @Ze.NiTH_ 5 лет назад +26

    Even though I don't agree with some of your views, watching your videos actually reignites my passion for poker. I appreciate you for that ✌🏽

    • @jbaru1211
      @jbaru1211 5 лет назад

      Robert Aznar if you don't agree with everything that was said you're a ploppy

  • @tiggstah
    @tiggstah 5 лет назад +23

    the real hero here is the dealer. for not screaming "come on already!"
    aggressive plays or not, ending your tournament on the hopes that a heart doesn't show would just be unbelievably stupid.

    • @tmartin555
      @tmartin555 5 лет назад +5

      So do you think folding a made hand to a draw is correct?

    • @tiggstah
      @tiggstah 5 лет назад +5

      @@tmartin555 for THAT hand? wagering ALL of her chips? after THAT many blinds? and looking at THAT flop? ABSOLUTELY.
      i'm no player obviously, but i can see through her perspective of not having the benefit of seeing anyone elses cards. if you are holding a 3 of a kind and see 3 suited cards turn, it doesn't take a mensa member to know a flush beats your hand.

    • @Steijn01
      @Steijn01 5 лет назад +2

      @@tiggstah nice troll

    • @tmartin555
      @tmartin555 5 лет назад +5

      @@tiggstah "I'm no player" .... nevermind. If you were a player you would know the guy isn't open shoving the flop into 3 players after flopping a flush... you would also know that you don't call a massive preflop raise with 1010 only to fold on the flop after hitting a set...i understand it's not in black and white how exactly to play that hand but fold to an open shove? Idk... maybe after a bet and raise and/or the turn being a heart I could dump my set (when it's clear that I'm beat) but anything short of that, I'm sorry but this is jus a situation where you let the cards fly and the chips fall where they may

    • @yourlonglostuncle14
      @yourlonglostuncle14 4 года назад +2

      Tigglet Like Doug said in the video, you have to be willing to get your chips in there and fight for the huge pot when you have the best hand. It’s unlikely anyone has JJ or a flush on that board. It’s pretty clear that Maria is the favorite in the situation, so you should be happy getting your stack in there to fight for this pot when it’s very unlikely anyone’s ahead of you.

  • @achillesmyrmidon4424
    @achillesmyrmidon4424 5 лет назад +19

    When you glue curtains on your eyelids.

  • @billperkins4477
    @billperkins4477 5 лет назад +56

    Need shot clocks in every tournament like this...absolutely ridiculous amount of tanking. Are they trying to do a PioSolver run in their head?

    • @MackTheTemp1
      @MackTheTemp1 5 лет назад +1

      Looks like they were counting something. Does a pio solver run take that much time?

    • @Jiggarelli
      @Jiggarelli 5 лет назад +6

      They can call a clock on anyone

    • @nachojimenez2420
      @nachojimenez2420 5 лет назад +3

      #calltheclock

    • @ChristopherSmith-tf4nr
      @ChristopherSmith-tf4nr 5 лет назад

      Bill Perkins all they gotta do is call the clock on person waiting, and they have certain amount of time to act or they will be folded. You should know this...Cmon

    • @KylinVN
      @KylinVN Год назад

      When you play on the Final Table of $10,000 buy-in tournament, you can have all the time you need. If you cannot wait, you can call the clock.

  • @steveblock3882
    @steveblock3882 5 лет назад +17

    i know players need to take time, but this has to be one of the main reasons poker dropped so much in tv / mainstream watchability. wayyyyyyyyyyy too much time banking on hands on an average makes for a borrrrrring game / sport?, to watch. there should be mandatory time bank limits added to all live tournies soon,

  • @Snow_Pulse
    @Snow_Pulse 4 года назад +1

    Poker is a crazy cool game
    My friends are playing this weekend and I’m super excited

  • @SmokeRingsPipeDreams
    @SmokeRingsPipeDreams 4 года назад

    Hey Langrock, Aunt Jemima called, she wants her hat back! LOL

  • @constantauctions
    @constantauctions 5 лет назад +48

    Is the hand over yet?

  • @p215j
    @p215j 5 лет назад +20

    Worst fold I've ever seen by a pro. It was a amateur that folded a set of 10s that was televised. Then he told Phil Ivey who was sitting next to him. Ivey looked at him like what!?

  • @davidwelsh1487
    @davidwelsh1487 4 года назад

    from an old guy...,,,,,, ,,,, you are doing a great job... thanx 4 ur time....

  • @lostnfoundllc
    @lostnfoundllc 5 лет назад +1

    If your going to say mix a bit of both raise or fold say the percentage of each. Thanks Doug.

  • @MikeJones-wy8jx
    @MikeJones-wy8jx 5 лет назад +25

    Poker is out of hand. The length of time it has taking to act just preflop is astounding I think the blinds went up 3 times since the start of the hand

  • @Andrew-yf3lu
    @Andrew-yf3lu 5 лет назад +56

    God damn, live tournaments are so slow.

    • @sh0cktim3
      @sh0cktim3 5 лет назад +11

      Agreed watching this shit was brutal.

    • @MUFC20
      @MUFC20 5 лет назад +7

      Its just the "top pros" who do that.
      Do that at my local casino and the clock will be called on you every hand before you have looked at your cards :D

    • @Trias805
      @Trias805 5 лет назад +4

      Great. If I take a dump on the table it will tilt them even more. That's a solid strategy.

    • @AxelAlexK
      @AxelAlexK 5 лет назад

      They really are. I played exactly 1 live tournament a few years ago. Then went back to online. I saw no point in ever playing live when I can play tournaments online. Also the rake live in most casinos is horrendous compared to online.

    • @nathanhamberg6733
      @nathanhamberg6733 5 лет назад

      Not always some tournament have a timer when it's the players turn

  • @glenlanoza7472
    @glenlanoza7472 5 лет назад +2

    20 minutes of my life that I will never get back.

  • @SirYanakT
    @SirYanakT Год назад +1

    Not certain who was affected more by viewing the coverage of this hand; Maria seeing how great her equity was here, or every viewer left to imagine how legendary & iconic this hand could/would have been to see played out..

  • @0626love
    @0626love 4 года назад +7

    What was the point of calling pre with TT if not for the flop like this and insta-calling

    • @xawee7254
      @xawee7254 4 года назад

      Worst fold ever.. honestly..This shit is disgusting - The only thing to be scared about is pocket Js cause that is the only hand I imagine someone going all-in into 3 other people as a value bet.. Reason is simple. The chance he has flush with KQ is slim.. sure he might want to protect against the Ace of harts in this situation but honestly with 3 people behind I'd imagine he would CHECK - Shove this hand almost always.. With the nut flush or straight-flush he would honestly trap I'm pretty sure always.. Reason for it? Well there is 3 people behind you with a 30BB+ pot and trying to balance your range in such an important hand for the sake of balancing is simply stupid.
      Conclusion - The only hands he would All-in like this is JJ, 77 ( Although very unlikely to have 77) and draws like AK with K or A of harts. Maybe KQ with K of harts (Also unlikely as I feel unsuited KQ wouldnt be a 3-bet hand) - Maybe the guy has TJs but missed his suit and got top two with a flush and straight draw coming..
      Either way the only hand to be LOGICALLY afraid of is JJ - All other hands you beat with equity - If you can't risk it here you shouldn't be playing at all

  • @704studio
    @704studio 5 лет назад +23

    takes them 7 minutes each to figure out if they have a pair or not.

  • @robertace821
    @robertace821 4 года назад

    14:22 my sentiments exactly 🤣
    (guy right corner)

  • @davidchen4592
    @davidchen4592 3 месяца назад +1

    I count 11 semi-bluffs. AA, AK, AQ offsuit with Ace of hearts. I count 9 "value" JJ, AK, AQ, KQ, 89, A5, A4, suited hearts. every semi bluff maria is ahead about 65:35, and vice versa for behind the value except JJ and 89hh (Essentially dead to both). Odds of winning against this range: [(0.65 × 11) + (0.35 × 5) + (0.08 × 4)]/20 = 0.461. Oh, she definitely should have called; she only needed 36% equity to call given her stack. As for the people behind, they rarely have flushes as Doug said. With ICM it might be close

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 5 лет назад +8

    I almost think she would have folded quads in that situation as well. If you are that afraid of a flush then you might as well be afraid of the straight flush.
    She should have just folded before the flop.

    • @shaundgb7367
      @shaundgb7367 2 года назад +1

      The fact she took so long pre-flop to make a decision, probably should have folded as two raises already tells you even pocket 10's might not be worth playing with for this price. To then take forever post flop after getting another 10 shows it probably would have been wise to fold earlier if you not willing to face these consequences of this guy being so attacking.
      I'm just annoyed how long she took after already taking so much time pre-flop. Once was fair enough. Taking up so much time after the flop when he already gone all in means there should be less to think about now and making your decision soon after. Took way too long to fold. Least if she had done it soon after, it would not have look so bad. He did a sensational job being so attacking. Knowing you've got the Ace of hearts and know one else does, and three hearts on table already, you can be playing the other players fear of not having the A of hearts in the hand. Great play by him. Totally out played the other three in that hand.

  • @malarucoon
    @malarucoon 4 года назад +5

    Irony: Its called action but they sit there like statues for a minimum of 6 minutes at a time.

  • @Notdickcheney
    @Notdickcheney 4 года назад

    Love the intro lmao. Please don’t quit RUclips bro

  • @keven1991
    @keven1991 2 года назад +1

    Gzzz felt like I was watching a bunch of amateurs making decisions 12 minutes before flop 🤦🏻

  • @ernieb4883
    @ernieb4883 5 лет назад +34

    The amount of time these players are taking to decide what to do is absolutely ridiculous.

    • @danortiz
      @danortiz 4 года назад +8

      because they are playing with a lot of money. You wont understand

    • @mel2000
      @mel2000 4 года назад +6

      Can't really blame the players since the drawn out timing should only affect those who were present. There's no excuse for uploaders to not edit the results for online viewing.

    • @lloydchristmas1086
      @lloydchristmas1086 2 года назад

      its insufferable

  • @nuklearwinter2892
    @nuklearwinter2892 5 лет назад +55

    Fold preflop Maria, or if you are going to turn your hand face-up as TT-JJ by flatting the 3bet, don't fold when you flop a set!

    • @GapModel1
      @GapModel1 5 лет назад +8

      nuklearwinter there a reason y you are not a pro and she is. This was an easy fold, too many hearts and too many people still in play. People who falls in love with their hand and can't fold don't get far in tournaments.

    • @forrestgreen4483
      @forrestgreen4483 5 лет назад +3

      The Instigator So pros never make mistakes? They make the right decision 100% of the time? I agree with you it's a clear fold with 3 other players in the pot. Heads-up though, its definitely not a clear fold. But the flat pre flop was a mistake. Not saying flatting 10s is bad in every situation, but flatting 10s after a very large re-raise with 2 more players to act is suicide. If she re raised pre flop, the other players would have folded making it heads up. But she didn't re raise because she wasn't willing to go all in pre flop with 10s but desperately wanted to see a flop. It's just a waste of 150k chips.

    • @BratvaTV
      @BratvaTV 5 лет назад +3

      How do you know nuflearwinter isnt a pro? lol

    • @jimmywoo2022
      @jimmywoo2022 5 лет назад +2

      Always a call here. You have the winning hand more often than not and even when you dont you have great equity to hit the full house. On top of that your opponents have poket pairs a lot of the time which cant have hit a flush.

    • @MrSkinnn
      @MrSkinnn 5 лет назад +2

      "James Woods", sure she could have hit a boat, but so could the guy with trip J's . . . which she was folding to. Good fold, should never have been in that hand with 10's though the way the betting went pre flop.

  • @grantcanada1
    @grantcanada1 Год назад

    the Shameless Advertising Bit was very good. cheers.

  • @mikelawrence8308
    @mikelawrence8308 3 года назад

    I'd like to play some tournaments but I can't do the one handed chip shuffle.

  • @domreysokheang
    @domreysokheang 5 лет назад +7

    2 mistakes in one hand.
    Shouldn't call
    Shouldn't fold
    Bad play

    • @KylinVN
      @KylinVN Год назад

      Agree. She should fold preflop or call on the flop

  • @rexanderson3204
    @rexanderson3204 5 лет назад +8

    Should be a 3 minute clock.

  • @sdavis9191
    @sdavis9191 4 года назад +2

    @10:12 ..."Ho just needs to jam...". I couldn't agree more.

  • @thegiant573
    @thegiant573 5 лет назад

    What was the difference in payout from one place to the other? Might make a difference. Was this final table? Why call if you are not prepared to shove
    after flop?

  • @chuckholden5448
    @chuckholden5448 5 лет назад +18

    It's like watching grass grow. So glad that tournaments are going to the 30 second clock. No wonder The Ho is announcing instead of playing.

    • @tmartin555
      @tmartin555 5 лет назад +4

      I agree but I do think 30 secs is kind of short... maybe 60 or 90 secs I would be happier with... I'm all for faster play and I play really fast compared to most but 30 secs is not alot of time in a big situation

    • @supremeamine2382
      @supremeamine2382 4 года назад +1

      You can use additional time credits in tough spots. You only get a few of them though, I believe.

    • @codys3009
      @codys3009 4 года назад +2

      @@supremeamine2382 That's basic casino rules, these guys are sloths... I wish I got 10 minutes to make a decision doing anything

    • @shaundgb7367
      @shaundgb7367 2 года назад

      @@tmartin555 30 seconds is way too short but whatever time she took to make a decision was just getting plain unfair. Three minutes should be plenty. She took way over that post-flop after already taking a long time pre-flop.

  • @nuggetdoozy7831
    @nuggetdoozy7831 5 лет назад +3

    I always have strong desires and the will to want to try my hand at big games and the big tourneys, but man, in the age of thinking for 19 years for a decision, sometimes I just feel my quick actions may always look weak. And it’s hard to adjust to the new age poker

  • @darrellcanhelp735
    @darrellcanhelp735 5 лет назад

    is there a time limit ?

  • @steadyflow3790
    @steadyflow3790 4 года назад +1

    Certainly a great play by Farrell with his position and a possible flush or straight. Had he placed a mid range to high bet, he still would have had an excellent chance but the all in call in this situation was key. Great clip!

    • @AC-wl7ve
      @AC-wl7ve Год назад +1

      Not really. He got lucky the person with the best hand who 100% should have called there folded. 99.9% of ppl are calling with the 10s there.

    • @steadyflow3790
      @steadyflow3790 Год назад

      @@AC-wl7ve I bet you’re a heck of a two card poker player. Would love to play poker with you.

  • @nabr891
    @nabr891 5 лет назад +3

    She thought Farrell had pocket hearts. Her chances of picking up another 10 were slim. She got bluffed.

    • @gdmclean
      @gdmclean Год назад

      And the odds of flopping a flush are 1 in 118.

  • @mrmarvellous5378
    @mrmarvellous5378 5 лет назад +8

    The fold was a poor decision and fortunately we now have Stop Clocks to speed up the decision process.

    • @rudymelendrez
      @rudymelendrez 4 года назад +4

      Actually she made a good decision here JJ beats her and any suited hearts even if she makes the correct decision she can likely lose with a heart on the turn or river. Maybe she was just trying to survive and not bust out thia by far was not a bad move.

    • @karlgan5247
      @karlgan5247 3 года назад

      It wasn’t a poor decision at all. Pair Jacks beats her, and so does a fourth heart anywhere else. If her 10 of Diamonds and the 10 of Hearts were switched she’d definitely call all the way to the end. Farrell had 31% here, and the value was too high for a 54% chance

  • @MARQUITOSGUALACBA
    @MARQUITOSGUALACBA 3 года назад

    who won the tournament?

  • @vladimirsellier1413
    @vladimirsellier1413 4 года назад

    Hey Doug, thx for sharing man! Very interesting spot you’ve choose there. 😉 honestly even if I were in FT I would have called. The reason is that if I had a flush already I would have just played differently in order to trap another player and put it All in after that. Hope you have the same opinion!? Thx again and take care 👍🏻🙏🏻🍀

  • @kevdawg55
    @kevdawg55 5 лет назад +5

    jesus, that preflop action was agonizingly long

  • @Guiltless765
    @Guiltless765 5 лет назад +61

    Players sitting and shuffling chips has to be the most annoying and weird shit ever.It's like they all have the same nervous tick.

    • @scrubfive9239
      @scrubfive9239 5 лет назад +8

      Weird thing to be bothered by. Fiddling with something in your hands is proven to help with your attention span, that's why most players do it subconciously.

    • @facelessman9224
      @facelessman9224 5 лет назад +6

      What else do you want them to do? Sit there and stare at nothing without moving? That would be even weirder.

    • @bertracoon1884
      @bertracoon1884 5 лет назад +2

      @@facelessman9224 it is still annoying. if you play in a big casino, then that sound is everywhere and it is kind of loud. i would play with headphones or so. it would make me nuts to listen to that crap all the time. they should get a stress toy or something like that. it doesnt make this annoying noise.

    • @otislucky5036
      @otislucky5036 5 лет назад

      It's maddening, they are all robototrons copying each other relentlessly shuffling exactly the same over and over like tweekers...always at every table, it's crazy annoying...

    • @mikea5205
      @mikea5205 5 лет назад +3

      # Guiltless - glad I gave up poker, shit is straight brain damage

  • @swolleneyes
    @swolleneyes 5 лет назад

    hilarious how they have a loading animation ( . . . ) while people are thinking

  • @ChasingDonnieBaseball
    @ChasingDonnieBaseball 3 года назад +1

    Just asking, but isn't Maria's chip placement indicating a bet or call (unclear of the amount)? She stacked her chips in front of her cards and took her hand off them. I'm not looking to argue I'm legit just asking if someone can let me know? Thanks.

  • @babayega_
    @babayega_ 5 лет назад +14

    When you call preflop with pocket tens you're hoping to hit at least one ten or maybe even two for quads by hitting two tens. So when you hit that ten you have to raise or jam/call jam the flop. You're not worried about the all in that three bet before flip because he's protecting maybe AA KK or AK with A of heart. He's not doing that jam with a Q of hearts with pocket Queens so you have to assume your set of 10's is good on that flop. Yes you can get out drawn on but you can also fill up. If you're not calling a set on the flop you should have folded pre-flop and saved 150k. What were you hoping to hit? A nut straight ten high? Or nut straight flush? Neither one was going to hit the flop when you hold pocket tens so a set or quads is your best hope for the flop. So you have to call/jam. Yes she's way richer than I am but when you think of the outcome, she definitely made a bad fold. In fact not just bad, but horrible. That's like folding pocket AA pre-flop because you think he has KK but you feel like he will out flop you. So you throw the AA away. You just shouldn't be playing poker at that point IMO.

    • @mroy471
      @mroy471 5 лет назад +3

      Joe Days exactly. You faced a raise, call and re-raise. Clearly someone is likely to have Jacks or better/AK type hands. What would she do with 10s on a 9 high flop? Probably fold to his jam. A flop with a single J Q K or A? Probably fold to a jam. One of the few flops she was hoping for hit and she folds lol

  • @lukesanders8912
    @lukesanders8912 4 года назад +8

    The first thing you need to understand is that everything you do at the poker table conveys information

    • @AwesomeOwl
      @AwesomeOwl 3 года назад +1

      You can't be all loosey-goosey eating a sandwich...

  • @ptbot3294
    @ptbot3294 2 года назад

    I was gonna ask at what time is the advertised hand played in this clip. Then i realize, there is just one hand played here in 20min.....

  • @fReDiCuLuS4
    @fReDiCuLuS4 5 лет назад +2

    Good thing for a fast forward button

  • @hankchinaski4651
    @hankchinaski4651 5 лет назад +8

    Why don't you use the names of the players in the video as it says in the video i don't know these peoples first names.

    • @bearnecessiteespolio5359
      @bearnecessiteespolio5359 4 года назад +1

      This is a problem with most RUclips poker commentary, AND most of the commentators on the original TV footage. Very annoying, I agree with you.

  • @66justariot
    @66justariot 5 лет назад +21

    Her entire plan with a pocket pair is to flop a set. It's a 1.5 percent chance of flopping a flush. Weak fold, sometimes you just have to go broke.

    • @swatkatz2454
      @swatkatz2454 5 лет назад +1

      66justariot Exactly! she was def afraid of the flushes. but if she fold that hand, then might as well stop playing poker.

    • @illumina91
      @illumina91 5 лет назад

      I think her position didnt help either , she was first to talk after the all in shove , and 2 player behind her.I think she was scared of if she call someone commited to call with a high flush draw King for exemple ,or K-Q one of them with a heart.Last to talk am sure she would have called and let the faith go on.But 4 handed you cant really blame her

    • @gregpeplinski4412
      @gregpeplinski4412 5 лет назад

      Duh, he has a 39 percent chance of hitting his flush, not a 1.5

    • @miltonngcomedy
      @miltonngcomedy 5 лет назад

      I disagree and think her move was bold and smart. All the guy needed was a heart to gain Ace high flush. Chances of him getting a heart is slightly higher than her getting a full house.

  • @MickLoud999
    @MickLoud999 5 лет назад

    Did they rabbit hole the turn and river?

  • @upstate5184
    @upstate5184 4 года назад +2

    I would go crazy hearing them all playing with their chips

    • @SSky06
      @SSky06 2 года назад

      I take it you haven't been in a poker room in the last 40 years.

  • @emmanuelhoule8070
    @emmanuelhoule8070 5 лет назад +3

    "well you might wana leave cause this is for people who wana win tournaments" - luv you Polk

  • @gonnaw1n
    @gonnaw1n 5 лет назад +55

    Everything wrong with live poker... sitting there tanking every decision that shouldn't take more than 15 seconds to decide. Should be shot clocks at every tournament now!

    • @glenjoke10
      @glenjoke10 5 лет назад

      I believe they can call time on someone....kinda rude but it happens.

    • @richardlug6139
      @richardlug6139 5 лет назад

      Once the flop happens I do not mind the wait, but the time it a takes just to do the initial betting or folding is why I do not watch anymore poker hands

    • @ryandowd7040
      @ryandowd7040 5 лет назад +1

      I hate the shot clock. It's gimmicky. Negreanu told me a couple of weeks ago that without a shot clock tournament poker would be "unbearable". So the first two decades of your career were "unbearable"?
      Also, Maria is a great player and an outstanding commentator who I bet has never once in her life heard the super-clever "ho" jokes some of you have made in the comments here. Jackasses.

  • @byronwilliams943
    @byronwilliams943 Год назад +2

    I would never fold a flopped set. Too many times the board could pair giving you a boat

    • @kitsune090
      @kitsune090 9 месяцев назад

      no donkeys nor fishes, any begginer player, any person with very low IQ even a monkey would click in the call button... even my cat would click in the call button... what she did was absurdity... she was out of her mind... she was dominated by her fear and it blocked her mind... it looked like the lives of her entire family was in the line... no it's only chips! if you lose you still have your life to live... unreal! her head was empty but she her level of cortisol was so high that it got the best of her... she should quit the tournament after that hand. I would, seriously!

  • @person995
    @person995 4 года назад

    I could not keep a straight face like that. I would randomly crack up