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I watch a lot of travel videos and you’re one of the best. Most travel vlogs are hosted by people who don’t know how to communicate or get lost in detailing things that no one cares about. You are a very good communicator and you get to the point-what we want to see.
@@Travelsbydreamer yeah same btw i wanna ask you something how do you travel so much do you have a business or side hustle cuz i really wanna travel too haha btw love ya content
@@Travelsbydreamer yoo that's cool bro. Btw like can you explain only if you don't mind haha like how did you got the money and stuff like i am just curious sorryy 😭
TbD - love the extended lounge review! Hit/miss flight for sure. Dinner selection poor as you correctly pointed out, but breakfast salvaged things a bit. I do like KLM's attention to Dutch-inspired detail (cutlery, gift, etc.). Love the new camera shots! Well done, sir.
Thanks so much! Lounge for sure one of the highlights, it was a lovely space as it quietened down a little. Those details I have to say were stunning, I’ve never seen an airline go that hard on the details at it really paid off. New editing studio also with better post production bits coming too!
great video as usual! 10 hours of sleep? That is incredible, what a luxury to have an amazing long sleep on an aircraft. such a shame they didnt have the Korean food option and super annoying about the excessive galley use. i'm still to scared to go on KLM because of 1977, which is silly really! maybe i should try it.... PS: really enjoying the channel keep up the great videos!
Thank you! It really was incredible, so good to catch up on sleep like that, especially on an aircraft! Ahhh yes, I know the incident well. Would say in term of modern KLM I enjoyed the softest touch down ever as we came into AMS, it was remarkable, amazing pilots for sure 😃
Totally agree with all your summing up comments, particularly when it comes to the cabin layout and the food service, considering the ticket price business class passengers expect a calmer environment and this definitely wasn't the case on this flight, breakfast looked good but the main meal looked pretty average. But as usual a good review, who's next ?
I've just booked a return Seoul to Birmingham Business Class via Amsterdam on KLM. They are VERY competitive particularly if you fly on a Wednesday. They were asking a pretty penny for seat selection which I didn't opt for so just hope there might be a seat in the forward section available on check in. If not, no great shakes! Thanks for the informative review.
You’re very welcome! Yeah, they’ve got some super deals at the moment. I also bulked at the seat selection fee and hoped to get lucky with the window seat! Hope you have a fab trip!
We are flying the 777 AMS to Curacao in February so this was an excellently timed review. Already knew that the forward cabin, whilst bigger is actually quieter because of the galley position and Premium Economy. Also know that KLM like BA does not provide sleep suits in Business on any flight so taking our own!! Bed looks great!!! To celebrate their birthday KLM release a new delft gin house on 7 October each year. In 2023 they created a miniature Valkenburg aan de Geul train station for their 104th birthday. So there are 104 to collect - theres a huge display at the KLM lounge in Amsterdam
Great video thanks. Travelling as a couple with KLM Business class next year. Do you suggest two window seats on infront of the other or in middle two next to each other?
Great video as always. I watch a lot of your BA vlogs and I wonder how you would rate the two against each other. They both seem very "middle of the road". Do you think a BA/KLM alliance would have been a strong competitor to the Lufthansa group ?
Thank you! I’m tempted to do a VS video as both of them have recently refreshed their business class offerings. BA do have the One World Alliancd and KLM are very much in with Air France so both stand fairly well independently. I think the Lufthansa group could be a force to be reckoned with after their big cabin overhauls next year though! I’ll be featuring them a bit on the channel soon ✈️
You’re very welcome! It was actually pretty good. Of course, one shouldn’t expect a luxurious Swedish massage style experience but I felt it was more than purely a gimmick. Imagine a really decent car seat massage if you’ve ever experienced it - it was on that sort of level 😊
@@Travelsbydreamer That's great thanks, we've booked on the newly refurbed 777 for January, although like nearly every single KLM business class customer; we're not looking forward to their rubbish food! 😂
Didn’t do either sadly on this flight as I was sat well behind but typically, in these types of cabins the first seat does have more room when converted into a bed with thanks to no seat in front. The noise from the galley can be an issue though free dependant and also traffic heading to the loos. If it was me though and it was available, I think I’d go for it 😊
Hi, another very enjoyable video. Very poor service running out of food, when in business class everything should be catered for in terms of passenger comfort and needs. In a very competitive market things like this can have a huge impact when it comes to choosing who to fly with.
Thanks so much! Yeah, having watched another review, it does seem the sub optimal catering is a bit of a trend with them, shame really as everything else was pretty good on the whole. Thankfully for them, it’s much easier to change the soft product than the hard product so perhaps something they’ll have a look at…
I agree it can dampen the experience, but that's why you should always select a seat in the main business class cabin and a lot closer to the front to guarantee your meal choice. KLM also let you pre-select your main meal on their app, but pre-selection is only available when flying out of Amsterdam. I always choose either 2A / 2K or 3A / 3K when booking my flights to avoid this.
Greetings from Amsterdam: KLM deploys artificial intelligence to combat food waste KLM is wasting less food on board aircraft thanks to artificial intelligence. AI programs enable the company to better predict how many passengers who have booked will actually board a flight. This allows the exact number of required meals to be calculated and KLM achieves up to 63% less food waste based on the expected number of passengers per flight. On an annual basis, this amounts to a saving of more than 100,000 kg of meals.
@@marinhopaais426 Welcome and appreciate the insight! Sceptical me says this is a crude cost cutting measure. Of course not having more than 1 choice in business class available to much of the cabin will cut down on waste…but at what cost to the brand in the long run…
Looks very good! I’ll consider a KLM long haul based on this. We nearly met you in Madrid Velasquez lounge several weeks ago. We were away with Matt’s Planet. Patreon Group. Keep up the good work.
I dont understand why people who are rating airlines are complaining about food on the inbound leg to the carriers home airport. The food on KLM from AMS to ICN is obviously miles better than the food in the other direction which is provided by a 3rd party in ICN where KLM has relatively little influence over...
Couple of reasons. Firstly, the ticket price isn’t discounted therefore expectations are understandably high. Secondly, the airlines have total control over outstation catering, it’s done by the same large global players like dnata or Do&Co regardless of where you go. The airlines have tailor made menus to choose from and can co create these custom to every detail with the catering firms. Poor food service from any location is totally the responsibility of the airlines.
@@Travelsbydreamer I understand they have theoretical full control over outstation meal composition, but you're not going to give that the same level of attention as you do on your own hub. Own hub 50% of the travellers leave from and each individual outstation is at max 1% of that. If you really want to rate a carrier on the quality of their catering you should do so on the outbound leg from their hub. Everything else is just hit-and-miss.. Same with airport/ lounge experience. KLM lounge in London is horrendous compared to Amsterdam...
@ 50% of an airlines flights are from outstations. These deals with the global catering firms can cover a wide range of destinations. One could argue it’s better to judge from an outstation to truly see attention to detail as this is where a truly decent carrier will get it right. Not quite sure what you’re driving at attempting to defend a major carrier only putting 1.5 meals on for a main service from somewhere like Seoul. It was poor and was called out as such.
@@Travelsbydreamer I'm not defending the airline. If the food is poor, it's poor... All I'm saying is that airlines have more control over customer experience when flying from their hub compared to flying from an outstation. Back in the days I used to work for a global ground handler and although visiting airlines had some room for customization, the extent of that was rather limited. I guess in catering that is somewhat similar. There are a number of set menus to choose from and you can vary a bit left and right but you don't have the same degree of freedom when working with your own hub catering. Also on the fact that they deliver the wrong number of meals on board. At outstations the turnaround time is short and errors can often not be corrected at short notice. Anyway, I'm not defending a particular airline, but just wanted to make the point that when reviewing airlines, there are differences on outbound versus inbound flights.
That’s interesting, I did find it pretty good for a business lounge I must say, loved the variety. Would be keen to do Asiana at some stage having had a really good experience with them years ago…
Not a big fan of KLM and that a bit exposed inclined seat arragement, far from the window. But I admit that KLM is delightful eficient and correct. Food is not to die for.
Hmm!!!! New business suite a huge improvement over old. Running out of a main course option is surely an economy phenomena. Was the vegetarian option just a bowl of courgette soup? Duh!! Others do it better me thinks.
Yeah looks so much better than the outgoing seat design! So for me, wasn’t so much they ran out of a choice but more the case that they only had 2 choices with one being significantly more attractive than the other then not having enough, not great for sure! All other aspects really good though!
I don’t like KLM is skimming through Business meals. Always run out of some selections or even in some caseses out of food at all. Air France is definitely the more attractive sibling in this family 😊
I am not a fan of KLM anymore! Have a look to that terrible food. I am still Flying Blue Gold member, but I think about to quit my membership. Doesn't like KLM an more. I really have a problem with the attitude of the flight attendants. On other airlines like Air France and LH they are so nice, but KLM flight attendants were so arrogant, rude and lazy on my last flights. I never felt welcome on board. They also lost luggage on several flights. Well, if you like to fly save from A to B it might be OK, but I don't have any luxury feeling on bord of KLM in Business Class.
@@Travelsbydreamer I am a frequent flyer to african destinations. KLM offers the biggest and the best network to Africa. If you like to avoid KLM your only options are LH or Brussels Airlines. I am from Germany and it makes no sense to fly first 6h to the east, have a stopover for 3h in the middle of the night and fly 6h or longer back to the Southwest.
I have traveled with KLM for more than half a century in the royal class and then in the world business class and find the product very mediocre in terms of catering, etc. Air France is better in terms of catering; why is klm so mediocre?
@@jankamps9511 It was a fab trip for sure! I'd be keen to do more with KLM, just a few improvements for them to make around the catering & aircraft layout to make them truly world class from my experience. I sometimes take menus off the flight but not on this occasion sadly...I've got too many!
@@jankamps9511 wat jammer! ik heb door vele verhuizingen ook veel 'verloren' of weggegooid. In de vroege 70er jaren kLM Royal Class, o.a. naar het Midden Oosten en Latijns Amerika. (meestal verlengde) DC8 van KLM. Kleine cabine met een soort poef voor de benen. Eten was een beetje raar: mooie witte menukaarten met preegdruk. Eerst 'ce qui amuse la bouche choid et froid' en daarna hoofdgerecht en toetje. Vond de borden toen al wat sleets, met zo'n tulpenrandje. Wel caviaar maar dan groentensoep en een hollandse maaltijd zal ik maar zeggen met een biefstukje. Goede wijnen en dranken, dat wel. Als je van Bagdad via Istanbul naar Amsterdam vloog, kreeg je de voorgerechten voor Istanbul en de rest na de doorstart. En voor latijns Amerika het voorgerecht na een tussenstop in Frankfurt of Zurich tussen Lissabon en daarna op het transatlantische traject het hoofdgerecht en zo...de range van vliegtuigen was toen veel beperkter dan nu. Vanaf Istanbul heb ik ook meermalen een tussenlanding in Wenen meegemaakt; 't duurde allemaal wat langer.
@ last business class flight: I was served kosher, not sure why, and the plate had nothing on it. Nothing. No explanation. Recently I booked economy plus through DELTA, refundable ticket. DELTA put me on KLM. I paid for lounge access through KLM, as well as airport parking, through KLM. I ultimately had to cancel. Even though I received the refund through DELTA, KLM only refunded me for the airport parking, but not lounge access. They had no explanation. They don’t care. To be honest their customer service is garbage and their third world customer service representatives represent just that: third world. I forgot to mention a trans flight attendant who was flirting with me in business once. Just not appropriate but this is how they presented themselves to me. I have no apologies. Don’t even get me started on how they handled operations during the pandemic. Even though I had a negative COVID result, they still tried to prevent me from boarding my second flight in transit with them, which almost left me stuck in Amsterdam, additionally I almost lost my job, because some short and nasty white woman in a KLM uniform at Schipol wanted to flex her power. Utter disaster. And I have to fly with them next month in business again…
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TbD - favor to ask, what is the piano background music? So nice.
@@FirstTravelService No probs, I use a lot from a composer called Gavin Luke :)
Really love your shows...and thankyou for your volume levels...i can hear so well..bless you for that..thanks so much 😅
Great to hear! The latest reviews now releasing are on max volume so hope that helps!
I watch a lot of travel videos and you’re one of the best. Most travel vlogs are hosted by people who don’t know how to communicate or get lost in detailing things that no one cares about. You are a very good communicator and you get to the point-what we want to see.
Thanks so much! Very much hope to keep improving my side 🤞
I find so much peace while watching your videos
That’s so good to hear!
yeah like ASMR :D
Great review, let's keep this channel growing 👏
Thanks so much! I’ll be doing my bit 😃
Your so underrated. I am your subscriber since 8 months wish you the best luck ❤
Thanks so much! That’s amazing, hope to catch you in another one soon! 😃
@@Travelsbydreamer yeah same btw i wanna ask you something how do you travel so much do you have a business or side hustle cuz i really wanna travel too haha btw love ya content
@@YomsVikings haha thanks so much. I travel with work a lot then just for various hols also 😎
@@Travelsbydreamer yoo that's cool bro. Btw like can you explain only if you don't mind haha like how did you got the money and stuff like i am just curious sorryy 😭
@@YomsVikings getting off to a good start on the career front helps, see a lot of people that do that do pretty well 😊
Great vlog Rich, ooohhh that spool up!
Thanks so much! Such a shame about the light in the cabin though 😅
Thank you for a really great video 😊
You’re very welcome! 😃
TbD - love the extended lounge review! Hit/miss flight for sure. Dinner selection poor as you correctly pointed out, but breakfast salvaged things a bit. I do like KLM's attention to Dutch-inspired detail (cutlery, gift, etc.). Love the new camera shots! Well done, sir.
Thanks so much!
Lounge for sure one of the highlights, it was a lovely space as it quietened down a little. Those details I have to say were stunning, I’ve never seen an airline go that hard on the details at it really paid off. New editing studio also with better post production bits coming too!
Nice Cabin.Great Video And Info
It sure was! Thanks so much 😊
Great video 👍
Thank you! 🙏
My favorite airline 🥰
Glad to haha shown it to you! 😊
Great video! Would love a video explaining what you do and how you are able to travel so often✈️
Thanks so much! Maybe a live Q&A is in order!
Thanks for another great trip report. I think they should have provided pjs for such a long overnight flight!
You’re very welcome! Yeah, would’ve been nice for sure, thankfully I generally travel with a pair of much more comfortable clothing just in case!
Fantastic job
Thank you!
Nice TR. Thanks for taking us along. Like 45 from your newest friend👍❤️
Thanks so much! You’re very welcome also 😃
great video as usual! 10 hours of sleep? That is incredible, what a luxury to have an amazing long sleep on an aircraft. such a shame they didnt have the Korean food option and super annoying about the excessive galley use. i'm still to scared to go on KLM because of 1977, which is silly really! maybe i should try it.... PS: really enjoying the channel keep up the great videos!
Thank you! It really was incredible, so good to catch up on sleep like that, especially on an aircraft!
Ahhh yes, I know the incident well. Would say in term of modern KLM I enjoyed the softest touch down ever as we came into AMS, it was remarkable, amazing pilots for sure 😃
Totally agree with all your summing up comments, particularly when it comes to the cabin layout and the food service, considering the ticket price business class passengers expect a calmer environment and this definitely wasn't the case on this flight, breakfast looked good but the main meal looked pretty average. But as usual a good review, who's next ?
Thanks so much! Lufthansa next on 🇩🇪
I've just booked a return Seoul to Birmingham Business Class via Amsterdam on KLM. They are VERY competitive particularly if you fly on a Wednesday. They were asking a pretty penny for seat selection which I didn't opt for so just hope there might be a seat in the forward section available on check in. If not, no great shakes! Thanks for the informative review.
You’re very welcome! Yeah, they’ve got some super deals at the moment. I also bulked at the seat selection fee and hoped to get lucky with the window seat! Hope you have a fab trip!
@Travelsbydreamer Thanks!! 😁
We are flying the 777 AMS to Curacao in February so this was an excellently timed review. Already knew that the forward cabin, whilst bigger is actually quieter because of the galley position and Premium Economy. Also know that KLM like BA does not provide sleep suits in Business on any flight so taking our own!! Bed looks great!!!
To celebrate their birthday KLM release a new delft gin house on 7 October each year. In 2023 they created a miniature Valkenburg aan de Geul train station for their 104th birthday. So there are 104 to collect - theres a huge display at the KLM lounge in Amsterdam
Good thinking on the sleep suits! Goodness that’s a lot of houses…wonder if someone has them all 😅
@@Travelsbydreamer I have friend who has 11. You can get them on eBay, Number 1 is for sale for £30!!
@@markjohnson182 Ahhh I see! Might see how much mines worth 😂
@@Travelsbydreamer I dont think it will worth enough to fund your next trip!!!!
@@markjohnson182 hmmm…sadly not! 😅
Great video thanks. Travelling as a couple with KLM Business class next year. Do you suggest two window seats on infront of the other or in middle two next to each other?
You’re very welcome. Yeah, either that or across the aisle from each other, I’ve never been a fan of the 2 onboard seats with this design :)
Nice 😊 video tbd
I like 👍 your vids keep going
Loads more to come 😃
Great video as always. I watch a lot of your BA vlogs and I wonder how you would rate the two against each other. They both seem very "middle of the road". Do you think a BA/KLM alliance would have been a strong competitor to the Lufthansa group ?
Thank you! I’m tempted to do a VS video as both of them have recently refreshed their business class offerings. BA do have the One World Alliancd and KLM are very much in with Air France so both stand fairly well independently. I think the Lufthansa group could be a force to be reckoned with after their big cabin overhauls next year though! I’ll be featuring them a bit on the channel soon ✈️
Nice 👍 vid tby
Nice review, thank you. What does that "massage" button actually do? Is it any good or a bit naff?
You’re very welcome! It was actually pretty good. Of course, one shouldn’t expect a luxurious Swedish massage style experience but I felt it was more than purely a gimmick. Imagine a really decent car seat massage if you’ve ever experienced it - it was on that sort of level 😊
@@Travelsbydreamer That's great thanks, we've booked on the newly refurbed 777 for January, although like nearly every single KLM business class customer; we're not looking forward to their rubbish food! 😂
What do you think of seat 1a? Is there a bit more room than say 5a? Or, would it be more noisy due to the location? Thanks! And I loved your video.
Didn’t do either sadly on this flight as I was sat well behind but typically, in these types of cabins the first seat does have more room when converted into a bed with thanks to no seat in front. The noise from the galley can be an issue though free dependant and also traffic heading to the loos. If it was me though and it was available, I think I’d go for it 😊
@Travelsbydreamer thanks!! I switched my seat to 1a! Hopefully the galley won't be to loud.
take care and don't fly too much 😘
Thanks 🙏
Hi, kindly, please include South African Airways (SAA) . Keep up the good work 👏
Would love to do them one day. Thanks so much!
Hi, another very enjoyable video. Very poor service running out of food, when in business class everything should be catered for in terms of passenger comfort and needs. In a very competitive market things like this can have a huge impact when it comes to choosing who to fly with.
Thanks so much! Yeah, having watched another review, it does seem the sub optimal catering is a bit of a trend with them, shame really as everything else was pretty good on the whole. Thankfully for them, it’s much easier to change the soft product than the hard product so perhaps something they’ll have a look at…
I agree it can dampen the experience, but that's why you should always select a seat in the main business class cabin and a lot closer to the front to guarantee your meal choice. KLM also let you pre-select your main meal on their app, but pre-selection is only available when flying out of Amsterdam. I always choose either 2A / 2K or 3A / 3K when booking my flights to avoid this.
@@solowithmanni good advice I think!
Greetings from Amsterdam:
KLM deploys artificial intelligence to combat food waste
KLM is wasting less food on board aircraft thanks to artificial intelligence. AI programs enable the company to better predict how many passengers who have booked will actually board a flight. This allows the exact number of required meals to be calculated and KLM achieves up to 63% less food waste based on the expected number of passengers per flight. On an annual basis, this amounts to a saving of more than 100,000 kg of meals.
@@marinhopaais426 Welcome and appreciate the insight!
Sceptical me says this is a crude cost cutting measure. Of course not having more than 1 choice in business class available to much of the cabin will cut down on waste…but at what cost to the brand in the long run…
Looks very good! I’ll consider a KLM long haul based on this.
We nearly met you in Madrid Velasquez lounge several weeks ago. We were away with Matt’s Planet. Patreon Group.
Keep up the good work.
Yeah, well worth at least a look I’d say, especially if really price competitive on a route.
Ohhh, I’ve never been to Madrid though 😅
Thanks so much!
I dont understand why people who are rating airlines are complaining about food on the inbound leg to the carriers home airport. The food on KLM from AMS to ICN is obviously miles better than the food in the other direction which is provided by a 3rd party in ICN where KLM has relatively little influence over...
Couple of reasons. Firstly, the ticket price isn’t discounted therefore expectations are understandably high. Secondly, the airlines have total control over outstation catering, it’s done by the same large global players like dnata or Do&Co regardless of where you go. The airlines have tailor made menus to choose from and can co create these custom to every detail with the catering firms. Poor food service from any location is totally the responsibility of the airlines.
@@Travelsbydreamer I understand they have theoretical full control over outstation meal composition, but you're not going to give that the same level of attention as you do on your own hub. Own hub 50% of the travellers leave from and each individual outstation is at max 1% of that. If you really want to rate a carrier on the quality of their catering you should do so on the outbound leg from their hub. Everything else is just hit-and-miss.. Same with airport/ lounge experience. KLM lounge in London is horrendous compared to Amsterdam...
@ 50% of an airlines flights are from outstations. These deals with the global catering firms can cover a wide range of destinations. One could argue it’s better to judge from an outstation to truly see attention to detail as this is where a truly decent carrier will get it right. Not quite sure what you’re driving at attempting to defend a major carrier only putting 1.5 meals on for a main service from somewhere like Seoul. It was poor and was called out as such.
@@Travelsbydreamer I'm not defending the airline. If the food is poor, it's poor... All I'm saying is that airlines have more control over customer experience when flying from their hub compared to flying from an outstation. Back in the days I used to work for a global ground handler and although visiting airlines had some room for customization, the extent of that was rather limited. I guess in catering that is somewhat similar. There are a number of set menus to choose from and you can vary a bit left and right but you don't have the same degree of freedom when working with your own hub catering. Also on the fact that they deliver the wrong number of meals on board. At outstations the turnaround time is short and errors can often not be corrected at short notice. Anyway, I'm not defending a particular airline, but just wanted to make the point that when reviewing airlines, there are differences on outbound versus inbound flights.
Nice vid. Only having one choice left for mains in business is completely unacceptable.
Yeah, it was suboptimal for sure especially as the other choice is my favourite Korean dish, I was rather gutted…
The food and drinks look 10x better than the Asiana lounge at ICN.
That’s interesting, I did find it pretty good for a business lounge I must say, loved the variety. Would be keen to do Asiana at some stage having had a really good experience with them years ago…
@@Travelsbydreamer Years ago they were top tier, but like a lot of airlines they have made a lot of cut backs.
@@tomsoden1738 makes sense, such a shame! Was 2009 when I last flew with them 😅
Not a big fan of KLM and that a bit exposed inclined seat arragement, far from the window. But I admit that KLM is delightful eficient and correct. Food is not to die for.
Yeah, I much prefer being up next to the windows! Sat back in the seat during the flight it did however feel wonderfully private. 😃
Hmm!!!! New business suite a huge improvement over old. Running out of a main course option is surely an economy phenomena. Was the vegetarian option just a bowl of courgette soup? Duh!! Others do it better me thinks.
Yeah looks so much better than the outgoing seat design! So for me, wasn’t so much they ran out of a choice but more the case that they only had 2 choices with one being significantly more attractive than the other then not having enough, not great for sure! All other aspects really good though!
Funny how he is holding house no 83 and he is saying there are about 70 houses! Nice video though
Thanks so much. Realised that post go live 😅
@@Travelsbydreamer please travel klm more, definitely my favourite airline, by the way there are currently 104 delft blue houses
@@CharlesAdeyemiO Keen to try out some of their other cabins for sure! More content with them coming also. Thanks for the number, that’s a lot!
I don’t like KLM is skimming through Business meals. Always run out of some selections or even in some caseses out of food at all. Air France is definitely the more attractive sibling in this family 😊
Would be so good to see them up the catering, it’s much needed going from my experience and what others have commented 😊
I am not a fan of KLM anymore! Have a look to that terrible food. I am still Flying Blue Gold member, but I think about to quit my membership. Doesn't like KLM an more. I really have a problem with the attitude of the flight attendants. On other airlines like Air France and LH they are so nice, but KLM flight attendants were so arrogant, rude and lazy on my last flights. I never felt welcome on board. They also lost luggage on several flights. Well, if you like to fly save from A to B it might be OK, but I don't have any luxury feeling on bord of KLM in Business Class.
That sounds really rough, do you have the option of using Qatar or Emirates? Might be better as LH aren’t in a good place now…
@@Travelsbydreamer I am a frequent flyer to african destinations. KLM offers the biggest and the best network to Africa. If you like to avoid KLM your only options are LH or Brussels Airlines. I am from Germany and it makes no sense to fly first 6h to the east, have a stopover for 3h in the middle of the night and fly 6h or longer back to the Southwest.
@@marten.travelling.11 makes sense! Tricky one then…
@@Travelsbydreamer Yes, but I guess the world has bigger problems than my airline preference... 🙈😃 Thanks for chatting! Wish you all the best!
@@marten.travelling.11 haha well, these are important topics! 😃 Likewise - safe travels! ✈️
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I have traveled with KLM for more than half a century in the royal class and then in the world business class and find the product very mediocre in terms of catering, etc. Air France is better in terms of catering; why is klm so mediocre?
Unsure, they do seem a way behind catering wise although better on my short haul which followed. I’ll be doing a comparison to AF soon!
Hallo , wat geweldig dat u ook Royal class hebt gevlogen. Hoe was dat?
Heeft u de menukaarten nog? Die verzamel ik :-)❤
@@jankamps9511 It was a fab trip for sure! I'd be keen to do more with KLM, just a few improvements for them to make around the catering & aircraft layout to make them truly world class from my experience.
I sometimes take menus off the flight but not on this occasion sadly...I've got too many!
@@jankamps9511 wat jammer! ik heb door vele verhuizingen ook veel 'verloren' of weggegooid. In de vroege 70er jaren kLM Royal Class, o.a. naar het Midden Oosten en Latijns Amerika. (meestal verlengde) DC8 van KLM. Kleine cabine met een soort poef voor de benen. Eten was een beetje raar: mooie witte menukaarten met preegdruk. Eerst 'ce qui amuse la bouche choid et froid' en daarna hoofdgerecht en toetje. Vond de borden toen al wat sleets, met zo'n tulpenrandje. Wel caviaar maar dan groentensoep en een hollandse maaltijd zal ik maar zeggen met een biefstukje. Goede wijnen en dranken, dat wel. Als je van Bagdad via Istanbul naar Amsterdam vloog, kreeg je de voorgerechten voor Istanbul en de rest na de doorstart. En voor latijns Amerika het voorgerecht na een tussenstop in Frankfurt of Zurich tussen Lissabon en daarna op het transatlantische traject het hoofdgerecht en zo...de range van vliegtuigen was toen veel beperkter dan nu. Vanaf Istanbul heb ik ook meermalen een tussenlanding in Wenen meegemaakt; 't duurde allemaal wat langer.
Losing my interest in KLM altogether.
How come? 😊
@ last business class flight: I was served kosher, not sure why, and the plate had nothing on it. Nothing. No explanation. Recently I booked economy plus through DELTA, refundable ticket. DELTA put me on KLM. I paid for lounge access through KLM, as well as airport parking, through KLM. I ultimately had to cancel. Even though I received the refund through DELTA, KLM only refunded me for the airport parking, but not lounge access. They had no explanation. They don’t care. To be honest their customer service is garbage and their third world customer service representatives represent just that: third world. I forgot to mention a trans flight attendant who was flirting with me in business once. Just not appropriate but this is how they presented themselves to me. I have no apologies. Don’t even get me started on how they handled operations during the pandemic. Even though I had a negative COVID result, they still tried to prevent me from boarding my second flight in transit with them, which almost left me stuck in Amsterdam, additionally I almost lost my job, because some short and nasty white woman in a KLM uniform at Schipol wanted to flex her power. Utter disaster. And I have to fly with them next month in business again…