My wife and I flew from Paris to Dallas with American Airlines last year. At the last minute, we upgraded to Premium Economy. I think it cost an extra $100 per person, and it was worth every penny. The extra legroom made an 11-hour flight pass in no time at all.
bro $100 for an upgrade is weak I've seen premium economy at TWICE THE PRICE. And I fly a lot, and frankly premium economy is such a loosely used term nowadays that you never know whats standard with it. You can't compare a Emirates Premium Economy with a United for example. And domestically, Delta's "Premium" economy is hot trash, literally forgot I had paid for an upgrade. Made me shudder to think about what their Economy's like now.
Three transatlantic flights in three days… The UK customs officer probably wondered if you’d forgotten something! Thanks for the top-notch content as always 🙏
Lol transatlantic flights inbound to the UK are high risk these days...mainly cause of the amount of people smuggling legal weed into the UK for huge profits.
@@BoazShron fun fact, customs is something different in the UK. We refer to the border force who stamp your passport as immigration officers, with customs being the red/green channels you walk through AFTER baggage claim, when you’re declaring/not declaring goods being brought into the country.
I went to Europe for the 1st time in June...flew from JFK to Paris on Norse. My flight left JFK at midnight. I flew on Norse. Knowing I was gonna need to get some sleep, I put in a bid for $275 to upgrade to premium economy. It was accepted, and my seat nearly completely reclined. I didn't get great sleep, but I got decent sleep...I would say I slept for about 4-5 hours of the 6-7 hour flight. Which I was ok with, because I was landing at 130 in the afternoon local time. I did not need a full night sleep. A partial one would do. Champaign was included, but I did not partake. Being my first time in Europe, I wanted to get as much rest as possible, and be as alert as possible. Looking back, it was totally worth it.
Thank you, Jeb and Suzanne for your calm and peaceful approach to your videos without the unnecessary drama or shaming of anyone. I always feel well informed by your content and enjoy watching you both!
Well said! There is so much drama in the other, darker corners of public video sharing. J and S offer a consistently positive but honest review process. I find their content refreshing and interesting.
Another option: We flew roundtrip in Premium Economy on United from SFO to IAD. When booking, United offered the option to purchase 3 seats together for the two of us. I got two boarding passes: one for William Lastname, and one for ExtraseatWilliam Lastname. We paid for 3 seats, so we each paid 1.5x the cost of a single economy seat. It was well worth it! Much cheaper than Business Class. We raised the armrests and spread out, put one carryon under the middle seat, and put our drinks on the middle tray. I would do the same for international travel vs. spending $$$ for United’s Premium Plus. We tried that for a flight from SFO to Zurich. When the people in front of us reclined, we barely had room to get in or out of our seats. I spent more $$$ and upgraded to United Polaris on the way back, CDG to SFO (very nice!). (Note that United’s Premium Plus is what Jeb refers to in the title as Premium Economy. United’s Premium Economy is just Economy with additional legroom.)
Totally agree about American. They have a ways to go to catch up and the pricing to upgrade is eye popping. Well done to Delta. Thanks for sharing your experiences. 2 of our international flights were awesome due to the information we gathered from Jeb and Suzanne!
Every Sunday, I watch the latest episode and then binge watch previous episodes as I clean my home. It's become my Sunday ritual as a mom of 3 small kids and teacher. Something about your travels, video and delightful banter with your wife brings welcomed peace. Thank you Jeb. Safe travels!
The one constant complaint about AA Flight Service is the crew's DISAPPEARING ACT for HOURS once they are finished with their Service even in First and Business. The worst Catering has to be out of CLT. I had better attentive service in Economy on Thai Airways and Cathay Pacific .
Many airlines are still vastly understaffed. Basically still using COVID as an excuse. At this point they learnt how to do the same work with less, stuck with it for profits. A lot of the cabin crews are now working further down the plane than before, hence why you don't see them as much. Some like Delta mention it & apologise for it, others don't even mention it to try get away with it. There's no shortage of people applying either. It's just like snack bars getting smaller despite prices rises. Less for more.
@@mike-yo8qj I've had a medical issue on an AA flight vomiting quite a lot with my seatmate and those across the aisle repeatedly pushing the call button. The F/As passed by three times without so much as even glancing or slowing down.
@@mike-yo8qj That is the real reason and purpose of FAs. Hate to disappoint you, they only do the service and comfort part because they are already there.
1 mean it's not terribly different from Domestic First. But Singapore premium was the best. They even have seats that recline way more. Plus pre departure drinks and your own in flight snack and drink station. Dedicated FA. The meal is served on China in courses. It's worth it to me on Singapore but that's about it though I haven't tried the middle eastern carriers offering there. Otherwise I just pay for business upgrade for the lie flats.
I flew Japan airlines Osaka to Los Angeles a few months ago and asked to upgrade to their premium economy. Cost was $280 to upgrade and I felt it was well worth it. The wider seat and extra legroom was worth it on a 10 hour flight
I flew Virgin Premium economy yesterday. It was very good. You were greeted with a welcome drink. The seat was great, plenty of movies to choose from and the food was tasty. I had sausage and mash for lunch and about 2 hours from landing at JFK, afternoon tea was served. I was originally in basic economy and was offered to bid for an upgrade. I placed the minimum bid of $450 and it was accepted. I originally paid $341 for my round trip fare from JFK - LHR. There was no amenity kit (maybe because it was a day flight) and no designated snack area. If you fly Virgin, remember to steal the salt and pepper shakers.
Just flew Delta HNL-HND, Premium Select outbound and economy plus on the return. The price differential between premium select and comfort plus on the outbound was less than $200 USD so we jumped on it. Premium Select was absolutely worth it. That being said, economy plus on the return was great as well. I agree with everything you said about Delta premium select. The one drawback was the space under the seat in front of our row was very narrow, so we had to put my son's backpack in the overhead and pull out a shopping bag to put his essentials in it. Also, while the overhead space is supposed to be reserved for your class of seats in both classes, the flight attendants did not monitor that and some people even put their bags in the Delta One overhead spaces. Service, food and amenity kit were top notch. I would do both classes again when flying to Japan. Great video, new subscriber now!!
Guys, flying London Heathrow across the pond in Premium Economy there is only one sensible way to go = Virgin Atlantic. Priority Check in and boarding. Sparkling wine to start then every hour either your suitable upgraded meals for the time of day and luxury Ice cream, chocolate, hot and cold drinks, various snacks. Dedicated friendly polite crew and dedicated toilets. Try it you’ll like it.
I agree! Just said the same thing in my comment. I’m very surprised that they did not do Virgin Atlantic to London. That’s the only airline that I’ve flown for the past few years. I’m surprised that they would give Delta number one when she put her amenity kit in the seat pocket and it fell through the bottom.
@@lisasummers1564 i think it was because they were only rating US Airlines only. Sure if its any airline in Europe , I would prefer to fly virgin too from LHR. Any other European airline that I would consider to fly from Europe to US would be Air France,KLM, Finnair, SWISS,etc.
Given how good Virgin is (at least going off all the online comments etc) is there any reason to fly an American carrier (or BA) from the US to the UK if Virgin is an option?
@@jfwfreo No; go Virgin who seamlessly link in with Delta. For many years I loyaly, being British used BA until I got fed up with their declining service, I then switched to AA for many more years who used to be, I think the best American carrier but they also lost it. I switched to Virgin, one trip is all it takes. You won’t switch back.
I flew Delta Premium Select from Atlanta to Paris, and I found it to be worth the price. We continued on from Paris to Cairo in Air France premium economy and that was even better than Delta. The seat was better with more recline and the food was better. The best part of having a premium economy ticket with Air France was the return from Cairo. I was given an offer to upgrade to first class for about $130 a person for the return from Cairo to Paris. Needless to say I jumped on that, and it was definitely worth it!
European companies are better than US. Think each small European country has its own airline. I have flown Alitalia, British Airline, the France, the German.
when United was first rolling out Premium Plus, for close to a year you were able to book those seats on premium transcontinental routes as economy plus-which are free at booking for Gold and higher. I was pleasantly surprised the first time this happened on accident and was able to fly a bunch of premium plus back then (in 2019) for no additional cost. good times
My wife and I were flying in economy from SFO to SIN (16.5hrs) and decided to bite the bullet at the last second to upgrade for $400/person to premium economy. 100% worth the upgrade. While it wasn't lie-flat seats, having the wider seat and leg room on a flight that long allowed us to get good sleep (as good as you can get on a plane) and first class was $9,000/person to upgrade 😅 Big fan of premium economy from a cost perspective and offering
Maybe you could measure the seat pitch when the seat in front of you is fully reclined. I’d be curious how tight it gets when the seat ahead of you is fully reclined. Always enjoy your fun and informative videos.
This is a big issue with BA. The PE recline is substantial, but makes it almost impossible to exit even an aisle seat if the seat in front is in full recline. By contrast I found Air France to not recline enough, but getting in and out is a snap. I guess it’s a wash.
if the seat in front of you is fully reclined you will live a nightmare even in premium economy. When i hear for better recline i usually want to run away.
Great vid! I have taken Delta Premium cabin many times and feel it’s almost like a “mini business” cabin. I appreciate the comparisons - good information to have.
We've flown premium economy on one trans Atlantic round trip. I wouldn't pay more than double the economy ticket. Our last trans Atlantic trip we went with economy but selected a row with only two seats in the back of the plane, and it wasn't bad at all.
I flew Qantas Premium from LA-SYD in 2022. It made such a difference! Just the addition of a footrest and more recline is so worth it for such a long flight, I slept for about 8 hours!
My only full trip across the pond was on BA's Premium Economy. And, if I get the deal I got then, I'd fly it ALL THE TIME. Our European trip took us to London, Copenhagen and Helsinki. We had 2 individual flights going from city to city. I booked our international flights as a multi-city. BOS to LHR and HEL to BOS thru LHR. It would've been $600 in economy purchasing about 7 months in advance. We paid $900 per seat. The service was closer to first class, the food was excellent. The seats were perfect. All the legroom you'd need and wide enough for this big guy. Our Helsinki to LHR route was codeshared to Finnair and was regular economy on an A350-900, but the important legs were on legit PE. Loved it and can't imagine flying without PE on long haul flights...
We flew premium economy family of 4 overnight IAD to ACC on United. Since it's 4 tickets, the differennce in cost was like $4k - $5k. I still think it was worth it and now don't want to fly economy on long international flights anymore. Just the seat difference. Not doubting the tape measure, but United at least advertised the seat width on our plane as bigger for premium economy, at 17.3" for economy and 19" for premium economy. I'm at a stage in life now where long uncomfortable airplane trips are actually painful, and also the added comfort helped with the kids restlessness, I think. So rather than thinking if it's worth it over economy, I'm more likely to search for the cheapest premium economy seat. Or maybe even ask if I could stretch to business. But from now on, regular economy is for domestic only.
We used to fly economy. Then tried PE on BA and never looked back. There was one time heading to London from Tampa PE was full. I got up and went back to economy and it was empty. Everyone had their own rows and were all laying accross the the seat just snoring away. So checked with BA and found I can purchase 2 seats and I can lay down and sleep and its cheaper than booking PE. Plus get 2 meals.
Tested - with a heart! I appreciate going into experiences with a positive outlook, without the "negative sensationalism" other reviewers have headed into. THANK YOU! And I also appreciate that you experience more than planes :-)
I've flown Premium Economy on JAL, ANA, United, Lufthansa, AA, Air New Zealand, Delta, Eva and Singapore. At the end of the day, the best experience was on JAL. Pod seats that don't recline into another person, great amenities, private cabin, huge work/food space. All in all an amazing experience. After that, probably Lufthansa. I just love Lufthansa - I fly them a lot and their seats are wonderful. Beyond that? Air New Zealand is wonderful. And, I've flown Singapore a lot, most recently from SIN/NY. Their Premium economy is okay but more of a Premium Economy light. Decent experience overall. ANA and Eva were disappointing - not a great experience other than a larger seat. Now, what about the US airlines? All their PE products are good, but I'd probably be more partial to United as their overall experience is better than Delta these days, plus, if you have an decent status on United, if you buy a PE seat, most of the time it's only a slight bump in miles or $$$ to upgrade into Polaris, so they're that. I personally think if you fly trans-continental, trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific a lot, it's worth the extra $$$ for the bump in service, especially if, like I do, you have to jump into business the next day.
I used to fly ANA from California to Japan and loved it. In most regards, it was better than a US carrier's first class but the seats were slightly smaller. Unlike the US carriers mentioned here, ANA INCLUDES lounge access. Its been a while but I seem to recall it was about 60% more. I agree with you that JAL is also a great airline. I used to fly their non-stop from San Diego to Narita. On one booking I ended up on an American Air flight that code-shared with JAL. Comparing that plane, flight crew, service etc. with an actual JAL flight on the same model plane was like comparing a Yugo to a Mercedes.
I recently went World Traveller Plus to the US with BA - I appreciated the extra leg room, and main meal was decent on the way out (less so coming back). I think it’s worth it if the price is right - I upgraded when they sent me an offer after booking so paid a couple of hundred extra, but wouldn’t pay much more than that to be honest. I also didn’t care for the leg rest on BA’s seat - found it didn’t add extra comfort and was also hard to fold back away once I’d released it.
Pricing is the problem. Often premium economy is 2 or 3 times the economy price. Then again, business might be 3-5 times the economy price. Ouch. If you have the money, splurge.
Delta Premium Select tends to vary pretty significantly depending on the region in my experience. We flew to and from Japan upgraded into Premium Select and even our two flights resulted in VERY different levels of service. One flight we were curtained off from the toilet at the front of the cabin and had to walk to the middle of the plane, but the other didn't. One flight had a different meal from economy, but the other was the exact same meal as economy. It's a VERY pricey upgrade compared to other categories like Comfort+ so it's just something to keep in mind! I still really enjoy flying Delta comparatively to other airlines, but I also really like a good value.
We flew Delta Premium select from ATL to Rome & it was nice. Our flt back we sat in bulk head Premium select & that was really nice. I used my carry on as an ottoman. Looking forward to the highspeed trains that we will be traveling on in the near future. Whoo hoo!
Yep I've flown premium economy twice once from Hong Kong to Auckland on Air New Zealand a lot more space. On their 787 very small and cozy cabin. Just 21 seats in a 2-3-2 layout I managed to get moved there after my preferred economy seat I paid for wasn't available nice food offerings too. My other premium economy flight was also Air NZ from Brisbane to Auckland. I've got reviews of both flights on my channel
I did premium economy 5 times for long-haul international flights. Phoenix-London-Phoenix on British Airways. LAX-Brisbane on Qantas, Fiji-Seoul-LAX on Korean Air. I don't remember the fares, but not being cramped in Econony for 10 to 20 hours was worth the price. Korean Air had flat seats, but BA and Qantas just had the larger seats. The food and service on all were phenomenal.
@@The_Turd_Ferguson Both points are valid, but yes, you can grab international business or first with some sick points values quite often. It's worth the patience. I did DC to Brussels in Polaris and it cost me $7.
@@LoveStallion im doing ewr to sin to bkk for 73k points bc on on sq and coming back fc on jal for 110k points. total cash out of pocket less than 100 bucks.
It’s pretty rare to get a free upgrade these days, especially on international flights. That’s why some airlines offer you the option to upgrade when you book.
Great video. It’s a good subject and your style focuses on the planes, service and product not on you or unnecessary drama! Also great to see you in London recently and you offer me inspiration on my own amateur RUclips journey! Best wishes for your next (big!) adventure and keep up the great work Mark
Thank you so much for these videos! I want to fly to Europe this fall and wanted to know if delta premium was worth it. I definitely think it would be a great birthday gift.
Love this kind of comparison. For reference, I professionally book travel for my company's C-suite (CEO/CFO/CSO). Our CEO and CSO are religious AA flyers, I personally am a Star Alliance guy, so I almost always fly United, Lufthansa, Swiss, or Turkish. Domestically, the only sensible option is JetBlue imo, free Wi-Fi, and a good loyalty program, can't ask for more when a lounge isn't needed. That said, this was the first year that on my own international flights that I didn't fly on a Star Alliance carrier from my home base, Boston. This year I flew on KLM to Amsterdam in March, Delta on their A330-900 coming back (the highlight of this year by far) and BA to Berlin (BOS-LHR-BER) and here are my findings: BA is trash - unless it's $400 less than other carriers (as it was for me since that was my only non-solo trip of the year with my sister who is a fellow at Baylor and was on call on the weekends before and after our trip to Berlin and thus had to be available in Houston, TX for the entire weekend). United/Lufthansa/Swiss: When you have status, it's not half bad. I went to Spain in 2023 and there was some weird glitch that made online check-in unavailable to me, and I had to check-in at the airport to get my boarding passes (1-stopper in MUC). Because of those issues, they gave me lounge access when I was flying economy to Madrid from Boston, and a free upgrade to business class on my return flight from Madrid. To be clear, I don't think I would have gotten this result if I hadn't flown on Lufthansa or Swiss on every international trip I took since being a junior in college in 2018 (Roughly 3 round trips a year from 2018 to 2020). In 2022 I flew on United to London from Boston, bid for an upgrade to premium economy that was accepted both times for less than $200 more than the original ticket price in economy. I have a lot of food allergies that are very uncommon, so I never expect to eat on a flight if I don't bring my own food. And even when I do bring my own food, I recognize I'm on a plane, no one can go anywhere, I suck at smelling but still know things have smells, so I try to have really neutral things as snacks throughout the flight. All of that is to say that food never matters to me... except for on UA24 when they operated a 767-300 ER from BOS-LHR, to date after more than 78 flights in 2 years, was just the second time out of those 78 flights that I have been able to eat a meal on board a plane, it was breakfast on landing to LHR and it was scrumptious. Whenever I fly United internationally again, I'll book into Premium/Business class just in case I can have that meal again. KLM: KLM was overpriced, and okay at best. Literally nothing to write home nor online about. other than if you aren't borderline bulimic, you might find the seats rather narrow. I couldn't imagine flying them any longer than 7 hours or so. Delta: If I couldn't fly business class, premium economy or even economy on Delta could be the best bang for your buck available for very and ultra long-haul flights. There's no comparison from any other New World carrier imo.
Thanks for the fact filled reviews. I flew premium coach from SFO to Taipei on EVA airline this past March. Worth every penny! I am flying Delta premium to São Paulo in a couple weeks and I am now looking forward to that flight!
hey jeb brooks can you make a video of southwest hubs .i watch your videos and there fun to Watch . i like that video when you went to Cindy Australia to Dallas on qantas airlines. can you pls make that video of southwest hubs pls
I can't stand AA, & I live 20 miles from CLT. I will change planes in ATL, BOS, or JFK with Delta, over a direct flight from AA. We went to London in May & changed planes in BOS.. I love the Delta A330 cus economy as 2,4,2 seats & of course the wife gets the window. Thanks Greensboro neighbors for another great vid production.
I live in Portland and the main carrier is Alaska. Any day of the week I would MUCH rather take a stop and fly delta. Even if it means giving up a nonstop flight
I suspect the grass is always greener on the other side. We had great American flights this past spring, and consistently poor service on Delta. Go figure?
Great to see you both for another Trans Atlantic adventure. Jetsetting around the world and sharing invaluable information with the masses. Thank you both!
I took Premium Economy on Lufthansa from Munich to Chicago. Having mobility issues, I mainly wanted the leg rest on the seat, which worked well for me. The food, drinks and service were great. The ticket came through Viking Cruises, so it was only a few hundred dollars more than Economy. Thank you Viking. Lufthansa booked me a wheelchair between terminals in Munich, but it never arrived so I had to walk a very long way quickly. They also landed at Terminal 5 at O'Hare, which was a 2 1/2 nightmare that I will never do again.
Great review as always. Sad to see that my switch to AA for the next couple of years will not payoff in this category of flight. I used to fly Delta but they got to expensive and I was getting better treatment with AA frequent flyer program. I am domestic flier only though. Suggestion: Put a chart/table at the end show the prices between all three airlines and the two classes of service. Makes it easier to pause and contemplate during your summary section at the end. Plus I a visual guy. Otherwise I love your channel and you two as a team. Cheers!
I flew Premium Economy with Air France from Paris to Miami 2 years ago on a 777 and it was great I think it is the best compromise between comfort and price with better seat food and amenities without paying the full price of a business class seat
This is a comment before I watch the video, I think it’s worth it if you’re in the bulkhead (I’m 5’ 7”) and that’s really it. I am not a fan of it at all on Delta’s A350 but the rest of the fleet, specifically their 339 is amazing. 0:17
Glad to see Delta has stepped up their inflight service recently. It was a rough one for a while after COVID getting the flight attendants to do anything above bare minimum.
For an international flight, I’ve flown premium economy on Air France 2x, on level 1x. Flown business class 1x on air Europa. Air France food was disappointing. Level was good, but seat selection was weird. They sent an email saying they chartered our flight out. Then our seats changed and my friend and I were split up on different rows. Then changed back to level but our seats didn’t go back to original ones we chose. Air Europa was my first business class experience and was awesome!! So for me, anything overseas will be premium economy or above.
Nice to see more premium economy reviews. Most people either do just regular economy or business/first class reviews
That's because premium economy seat service is just a recently new product by airlines.
I chose premium economy and it was no different than regular economy. What a rip off on American Airlines. Never again.
@@elizabethgonzalez3531 not even better leg room? I am a big guy and am happy to pay for more room when I can afford it.
My wife and I flew from Paris to Dallas with American Airlines last year. At the last minute, we upgraded to Premium Economy. I think it cost an extra $100 per person, and it was worth every penny. The extra legroom made an 11-hour flight pass in no time at all.
At this price for an upgrade, I would too. But this is not the typical price difference.
bro $100 for an upgrade is weak I've seen premium economy at TWICE THE PRICE. And I fly a lot, and frankly premium economy is such a loosely used term nowadays that you never know whats standard with it. You can't compare a Emirates Premium Economy with a United for example. And domestically, Delta's "Premium" economy is hot trash, literally forgot I had paid for an upgrade. Made me shudder to think about what their Economy's like now.
I believe they also give you a free drink as well
It all
About the width of the seat and legroom…one can actually relax. If the seat is not wider I would not pay anything extra
Sounds worthwhile
Three transatlantic flights in three days…
The UK customs officer probably wondered if you’d forgotten something!
Thanks for the top-notch content as always 🙏
Lol transatlantic flights inbound to the UK are high risk these days...mainly cause of the amount of people smuggling legal weed into the UK for huge profits.
Yes, they were forgetting to fly British Airways.
@@BoazShron fun fact, customs is something different in the UK. We refer to the border force who stamp your passport as immigration officers, with customs being the red/green channels you walk through AFTER baggage claim, when you’re declaring/not declaring goods being brought into the country.
And check the international terrorist lists
😅😅
I went to Europe for the 1st time in June...flew from JFK to Paris on Norse. My flight left JFK at midnight. I flew on Norse. Knowing I was gonna need to get some sleep, I put in a bid for $275 to upgrade to premium economy. It was accepted, and my seat nearly completely reclined. I didn't get great sleep, but I got decent sleep...I would say I slept for about 4-5 hours of the 6-7 hour flight. Which I was ok with, because I was landing at 130 in the afternoon local time. I did not need a full night sleep. A partial one would do. Champaign was included, but I did not partake. Being my first time in Europe, I wanted to get as much rest as possible, and be as alert as possible. Looking back, it was totally worth it.
We upgraded on Norse to Paris also. Great seats especially for the price.
We upgraded our return international 10 hour flight on United. Worth every penny!
Always worth it if its affordable.
Thanks!
Thank YOU!!
Thank you, Jeb and Suzanne for your calm and peaceful approach to your videos without the unnecessary drama or shaming of anyone. I always feel well informed by your content and enjoy watching you both!
Well said! There is so much drama in the other, darker corners of public video sharing. J and S offer a consistently positive but honest review process. I find their content refreshing and interesting.
Figured that Delta would win!
Why the hell would they be shaming anyone or causing drama?
Those who do wrong should be publicly shamed.
I don’t know what this comment is about. It’s a review? Not personal and easily fixed by any business impacted by a poor review.
Another option: We flew roundtrip in Premium Economy on United from SFO to IAD. When booking, United offered the option to purchase 3 seats together for the two of us. I got two boarding passes: one for William Lastname, and one for ExtraseatWilliam Lastname.
We paid for 3 seats, so we each paid 1.5x the cost of a single economy seat. It was well worth it! Much cheaper than Business Class. We raised the armrests and spread out, put one carryon under the middle seat, and put our drinks on the middle tray.
I would do the same for international travel vs. spending $$$ for United’s Premium Plus. We tried that for a flight from SFO to Zurich. When the people in front of us reclined, we barely had room to get in or out of our seats. I spent more $$$ and upgraded to United Polaris on the way back, CDG to SFO (very nice!).
(Note that United’s Premium Plus is what Jeb refers to in the title as Premium Economy. United’s Premium Economy is just Economy with additional legroom.)
Your reviews are the very best on RUclips.
A clear, level headed approach to your reviews are packed with great information. Thank you!
I flew premium economy on Virgin Atlantic from LHR to JFK (purchased using credit card points) - it was fantastic!
Totally agree about American. They have a ways to go to catch up and the pricing to upgrade is eye popping. Well done to Delta. Thanks for sharing your experiences. 2 of our international flights were awesome due to the information we gathered from Jeb and Suzanne!
the last flight i bought on AA was 2017. they can shove it.
Every Sunday, I watch the latest episode and then binge watch previous episodes as I clean my home. It's become my Sunday ritual as a mom of 3 small kids and teacher. Something about your travels, video and delightful banter with your wife brings welcomed peace. Thank you Jeb. Safe travels!
The one constant complaint about AA Flight Service is the crew's DISAPPEARING ACT for HOURS once they are finished with their Service even in First and Business. The worst Catering has to be out of CLT.
I had better attentive service in Economy on Thai Airways and Cathay Pacific .
It's all the airlines now,they serve you and disappear,the call button is what you have to use now..
Many airlines are still vastly understaffed. Basically still using COVID as an excuse. At this point they learnt how to do the same work with less, stuck with it for profits. A lot of the cabin crews are now working further down the plane than before, hence why you don't see them as much. Some like Delta mention it & apologise for it, others don't even mention it to try get away with it. There's no shortage of people applying either. It's just like snack bars getting smaller despite prices rises. Less for more.
Unfortunately, the AA FA's would respond that their for the safety of the passengers in the event of an emergency... not for your service and comfort.
@@mike-yo8qj I've had a medical issue on an AA flight vomiting quite a lot with my seatmate and those across the aisle repeatedly pushing the call button. The F/As passed by three times without so much as even glancing or slowing down.
@@mike-yo8qj That is the real reason and purpose of FAs. Hate to disappoint you, they only do the service and comfort part because they are already there.
We normally fly First Class, so when flew to Amsterdam this past Sept/Oct we flew Prem. Eco and will do it again, we loved it.
1 mean it's not terribly different from Domestic First. But Singapore premium was the best. They even have seats that recline way more. Plus pre departure drinks and your own in flight snack and drink station. Dedicated FA. The meal is served on China in courses. It's worth it to me on Singapore but that's about it though I haven't tried the middle eastern carriers offering there. Otherwise I just pay for business upgrade for the lie flats.
I flew Japan airlines Osaka to Los Angeles a few months ago and asked to upgrade to their premium economy. Cost was $280 to upgrade and I felt it was well worth it. The wider seat and extra legroom was worth it on a 10 hour flight
Seems reasonable to me!
@@GreenerGrass JAL even gives PE, Lounge Access.
@@bodyloverz30 I had premium economy tickets on SAS that included lounge access.....then Covid happened.
JAL has THE BEST premium econ. Of any company in the world.
@@bodyloverz30at LAX?
I flew Virgin Premium economy yesterday. It was very good. You were greeted with a welcome drink. The seat was great, plenty of movies to choose from and the food was tasty. I had sausage and mash for lunch and about 2 hours from landing at JFK, afternoon tea was served. I was originally in basic economy and was offered to bid for an upgrade. I placed the minimum bid of $450 and it was accepted. I originally paid $341 for my round trip fare from JFK - LHR. There was no amenity kit (maybe because it was a day flight) and no designated snack area. If you fly Virgin, remember to steal the salt and pepper shakers.
So, you paid both sums of $341 + $450 to get the premium economy seat? $791 is still better than what these guys are paying US airlines.
I’m going to guess American will be the worst.
How do you get offers to bid for upgrades?
Just flew Delta HNL-HND, Premium Select outbound and economy plus on the return. The price differential between premium select and comfort plus on the outbound was less than $200 USD so we jumped on it. Premium Select was absolutely worth it. That being said, economy plus on the return was great as well. I agree with everything you said about Delta premium select. The one drawback was the space under the seat in front of our row was very narrow, so we had to put my son's backpack in the overhead and pull out a shopping bag to put his essentials in it. Also, while the overhead space is supposed to be reserved for your class of seats in both classes, the flight attendants did not monitor that and some people even put their bags in the Delta One overhead spaces. Service, food and amenity kit were top notch. I would do both classes again when flying to Japan. Great video, new subscriber now!!
Great idea for vid! This really helped me decide between the 3 airlines on an upcoming flight. Thanks you guys!
Very informative, thank you for taking one for the team on that American flight! Cheers!
As someone who hates flying. You two are troopers!
Guys, flying London Heathrow across the pond in Premium Economy there is only one sensible way to go = Virgin Atlantic. Priority Check in and boarding. Sparkling wine to start then every hour either your suitable upgraded meals for the time of day and luxury Ice cream, chocolate, hot and cold drinks, various snacks. Dedicated friendly polite crew and dedicated toilets. Try it you’ll like it.
I agree! Just said the same thing in my comment. I’m very surprised that they did not do Virgin Atlantic to London. That’s the only airline that I’ve flown for the past few years. I’m surprised that they would give Delta number one when she put her amenity kit in the seat pocket and it fell through the bottom.
@@lisasummers1564 i think it was because they were only rating US Airlines only. Sure if its any airline in Europe , I would prefer to fly virgin too from LHR. Any other European airline that I would consider to fly from Europe to US would be Air France,KLM, Finnair, SWISS,etc.
Given how good Virgin is (at least going off all the online comments etc) is there any reason to fly an American carrier (or BA) from the US to the UK if Virgin is an option?
@@jfwfreo No; go Virgin who seamlessly link in with Delta. For many years I loyaly, being British used BA until I got fed up with their declining service, I then switched to AA for many more years who used to be, I think the best American carrier but they also lost it. I switched to Virgin, one trip is all it takes. You won’t switch back.
@@jfwfreo one big reason for lot of people is having to travel to JFK. EWR is so much easier to get to for people in NJ.
"I wish airlines would get more creative with the vegetarian options.." THANK YOU. I've almost given up on it and bring my own food most of the time.
Imagine paying $1600 for Jeb Brooks to be bored and playing with the foot rest attached to your seat..
Definitely worth the price of admission 😂
#Goals
I would be asleep, so I would not notice. I try to fall asleep while on the apron. 😅
@@byronharano2391Does the person wearing the apron mind?
@@WilliamMurphy-b6v 😂
you guys are the BEST! love it, thank you both so much!
I flew Delta Premium Select from Atlanta to Paris, and I found it to be worth the price. We continued on from Paris to Cairo in Air France premium economy and that was even better than Delta. The seat was better with more recline and the food was better. The best part of having a premium economy ticket with Air France was the return from Cairo. I was given an offer to upgrade to first class for about $130 a person for the return from Cairo to Paris. Needless to say I jumped on that, and it was definitely worth it!
I’ve always found foreign airlines, for the most part are far better.
I flew Air France Philadelphia ton Paris on Econ Premium
Minus the lay flat there wasn’t much difference.
Love flying Air France.
European companies are better than US. Think each small European country has its own airline. I have flown Alitalia, British Airline, the France, the German.
I love Air France, their food can't be beat.
when United was first rolling out Premium Plus, for close to a year you were able to book those seats on premium transcontinental routes as economy plus-which are free at booking for Gold and higher. I was pleasantly surprised the first time this happened on accident and was able to fly a bunch of premium plus back then (in 2019) for no additional cost. good times
My wife and I were flying in economy from SFO to SIN (16.5hrs) and decided to bite the bullet at the last second to upgrade for $400/person to premium economy. 100% worth the upgrade. While it wasn't lie-flat seats, having the wider seat and leg room on a flight that long allowed us to get good sleep (as good as you can get on a plane) and first class was $9,000/person to upgrade 😅 Big fan of premium economy from a cost perspective and offering
On which airline ?
Maybe you could measure the seat pitch when the seat in front of you is fully reclined. I’d be curious how tight it gets when the seat ahead of you is fully reclined. Always enjoy your fun and informative videos.
This is a big issue with BA. The PE recline is substantial, but makes it almost impossible to exit even an aisle seat if the seat in front is in full recline. By contrast I found Air France to not recline enough, but getting in and out is a snap. I guess it’s a wash.
if the seat in front of you is fully reclined you will live a nightmare even in premium economy. When i hear for better recline i usually want to run away.
Knew Delta would be the winner. Great Video!
Yet another Delta sponsored video
@@loliraki sighhhh just don't react if you can only be negative
The difference of WiFi alone is striking. Broken, or pricey and slow, or cheap and fast!
Not sure about the cleanliness of the Delta cabin. Looks like they should have done a better job at cleaning
Never drink coffee,or water
Great vid! I have taken Delta Premium cabin many times and feel it’s almost like a “mini business” cabin. I appreciate the comparisons - good information to have.
We've flown premium economy on one trans Atlantic round trip. I wouldn't pay more than double the economy ticket. Our last trans Atlantic trip we went with economy but selected a row with only two seats in the back of the plane, and it wasn't bad at all.
Very relevant comparison video for me. This is exactly what I've needed. Thanks.
Thank you both. I personally appreciate your efforts and honest reports 👌
I recently flew Delta's premium select and Air Canada's Economique Privilege and loved both experiences.
I appreciate the tip at the end business class going and economy returning.
Excellent comparison, thanks for sharing!!!!!
You def deserve more views and subscribers. Awesome work and such a humble and polite guy!
Suzanne has an incredible commentary delivery. Great video as always. 🥂
So impressive how United makes a 31 year old jet look brand new inside and out. I’ve loved watching their comeback over the past few years!
There probably isn't much on that 31 year old jet that is actually 31 years old.
You can polish a turd it’s still a turd
UA premium much more cost effective. I luv how United always upgrades its mileage members for free til the business and premium are full.
It's not how old the plane is that matters, it's how old the cabin interior is. There's nothing magic about United in that respect.
I flew Qantas Premium from LA-SYD in 2022. It made such a difference! Just the addition of a footrest and more recline is so worth it for such a long flight, I slept for about 8 hours!
Agreed - expecially on the A380.
I flew with United in Premium Economy in July of 2023 on a 777-300 from Dulles to Munich and had a fantastic experience.
My only full trip across the pond was on BA's Premium Economy. And, if I get the deal I got then, I'd fly it ALL THE TIME. Our European trip took us to London, Copenhagen and Helsinki. We had 2 individual flights going from city to city. I booked our international flights as a multi-city. BOS to LHR and HEL to BOS thru LHR. It would've been $600 in economy purchasing about 7 months in advance. We paid $900 per seat. The service was closer to first class, the food was excellent. The seats were perfect. All the legroom you'd need and wide enough for this big guy. Our Helsinki to LHR route was codeshared to Finnair and was regular economy on an A350-900, but the important legs were on legit PE. Loved it and can't imagine flying without PE on long haul flights...
We flew premium economy family of 4 overnight IAD to ACC on United. Since it's 4 tickets, the differennce in cost was like $4k - $5k. I still think it was worth it and now don't want to fly economy on long international flights anymore. Just the seat difference. Not doubting the tape measure, but United at least advertised the seat width on our plane as bigger for premium economy, at 17.3" for economy and 19" for premium economy. I'm at a stage in life now where long uncomfortable airplane trips are actually painful, and also the added comfort helped with the kids restlessness, I think. So rather than thinking if it's worth it over economy, I'm more likely to search for the cheapest premium economy seat. Or maybe even ask if I could stretch to business. But from now on, regular economy is for domestic only.
Great video. The side by side comparison is super useful!
Thank you for taking the time to compare both domestic and international premium economy! Love these videos, thanks Jeb!
Loved this video! You guys are awesome!
We used to fly economy. Then tried PE on BA and never looked back. There was one time heading to London from Tampa PE was full. I got up and went back to economy and it was empty. Everyone had their own rows and were all laying accross the the seat just snoring away.
So checked with BA and found I can purchase 2 seats and I can lay down and sleep and its cheaper than booking PE. Plus get 2 meals.
Tested - with a heart! I appreciate going into experiences with a positive outlook, without the "negative sensationalism" other reviewers have headed into. THANK YOU! And I also appreciate that you experience more than planes :-)
I've flown Premium Economy on JAL, ANA, United, Lufthansa, AA, Air New Zealand, Delta, Eva and Singapore. At the end of the day, the best experience was on JAL. Pod seats that don't recline into another person, great amenities, private cabin, huge work/food space. All in all an amazing experience. After that, probably Lufthansa. I just love Lufthansa - I fly them a lot and their seats are wonderful. Beyond that? Air New Zealand is wonderful. And, I've flown Singapore a lot, most recently from SIN/NY. Their Premium economy is okay but more of a Premium Economy light. Decent experience overall. ANA and Eva were disappointing - not a great experience other than a larger seat. Now, what about the US airlines? All their PE products are good, but I'd probably be more partial to United as their overall experience is better than Delta these days, plus, if you have an decent status on United, if you buy a PE seat, most of the time it's only a slight bump in miles or $$$ to upgrade into Polaris, so they're that. I personally think if you fly trans-continental, trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific a lot, it's worth the extra $$$ for the bump in service, especially if, like I do, you have to jump into business the next day.
I used to fly ANA from California to Japan and loved it. In most regards, it was better than a US carrier's first class but the seats were slightly smaller. Unlike the US carriers mentioned here, ANA INCLUDES lounge access. Its been a while but I seem to recall it was about 60% more. I agree with you that JAL is also a great airline. I used to fly their non-stop from San Diego to Narita. On one booking I ended up on an American Air flight that code-shared with JAL. Comparing that plane, flight crew, service etc. with an actual JAL flight on the same model plane was like comparing a Yugo to a Mercedes.
3 back to back flights! Damn I salute you guys and your backsides!
I recently went World Traveller Plus to the US with BA - I appreciated the extra leg room, and main meal was decent on the way out (less so coming back). I think it’s worth it if the price is right - I upgraded when they sent me an offer after booking so paid a couple of hundred extra, but wouldn’t pay much more than that to be honest. I also didn’t care for the leg rest on BA’s seat - found it didn’t add extra comfort and was also hard to fold back away once I’d released it.
Pricing is the problem. Often premium economy is 2 or 3 times the economy price. Then again, business might be 3-5 times the economy price. Ouch. If you have the money, splurge.
Very helpful, thank you for all the details.
Delta Premium Select tends to vary pretty significantly depending on the region in my experience. We flew to and from Japan upgraded into Premium Select and even our two flights resulted in VERY different levels of service. One flight we were curtained off from the toilet at the front of the cabin and had to walk to the middle of the plane, but the other didn't. One flight had a different meal from economy, but the other was the exact same meal as economy. It's a VERY pricey upgrade compared to other categories like Comfort+ so it's just something to keep in mind! I still really enjoy flying Delta comparatively to other airlines, but I also really like a good value.
We flew Delta Premium select from ATL to Rome & it was nice. Our flt back we sat in bulk head Premium select & that was really nice. I used my carry on as an ottoman. Looking forward to the highspeed trains that we will be traveling on in the near future. Whoo hoo!
Yep I've flown premium economy twice once from Hong Kong to Auckland on Air New Zealand a lot more space. On their 787 very small and cozy cabin. Just 21 seats in a 2-3-2 layout I managed to get moved there after my preferred economy seat I paid for wasn't available nice food offerings too. My other premium economy flight was also Air NZ from Brisbane to Auckland. I've got reviews of both flights on my channel
I did premium economy 5 times for long-haul international flights. Phoenix-London-Phoenix on British Airways. LAX-Brisbane on Qantas, Fiji-Seoul-LAX on Korean Air. I don't remember the fares, but not being cramped in Econony for 10 to 20 hours was worth the price. Korean Air had flat seats, but BA and Qantas just had the larger seats. The food and service on all were phenomenal.
I flew premium economy several times on Singapore Airlines from JFK TO Manila via Singapore. I loved it. I had a single seat
Oh yeah, those single seats are a great hack!
Thank you both! This was a really interesting review of the US Big Three. Fascinating to see the menu differences, as well 🤔
Always book economy. Then try and upgrade during check-in. If you get offered an upgrade, its often cheaper than pre booking price.
no use points and fly on a better carrier in a better class. for less than your ticket in peasant class.
@@The_Turd_Ferguson Both points are valid, but yes, you can grab international business or first with some sick points values quite often. It's worth the patience. I did DC to Brussels in Polaris and it cost me $7.
@@LoveStallion im doing ewr to sin to bkk for 73k points bc on on sq and coming back fc on jal for 110k points. total cash out of pocket less than 100 bucks.
It’s pretty rare to get a free upgrade these days, especially on international flights. That’s why some airlines offer you the option to upgrade when you book.
This is a great hack, probably can get a better price that way
Just dropping in to say that I really enjoy your videos. You provide travelers with good, useful information. Thanks and happy travels to you both.
Let’s just take time to thank Jeb and Suzanne for these AWSOME videos 🎉
Another excellent and very interesting video, Delta, well done! Also their internet price for that long of a flight and speed, wow, 10/10
Great video. It’s a good subject and your style focuses on the planes, service and product not on you or unnecessary drama!
Also great to see you in London recently and you offer me inspiration on my own amateur RUclips journey!
Best wishes for your next (big!) adventure and keep up the great work
Mark
Thank you so much, Mark! So great to meet you. Looking forward to staying in touch!
Very helpful. We are flying to London in October so this gave us a nice comparison. Thank you.
Delta is my favorite US airline.
Good summary. I've flown to Europe and China on Premium Economy, and I had not thought of going Business one way and Economy the other.!
Whenever you say "lotions & potions", you should sample and dub in Dennis Bunnik's voice.
Thank you so much for these videos! I want to fly to Europe this fall and wanted to know if delta premium was worth it. I definitely think it would be a great birthday gift.
I would be so stoked if you did a review on Air Canada‘s premium economy product
It has been way too long since we’ve flown Air Canada! Hopefully in 2025!
Great video, I learned a lot from this very well-done production.
Wow! Thanks!!
Love your channel! Thanks for making such good content for us to watch! 😊❤
Did a fine job with this. Very educational, conversational ,and well-produced.
Love this kind of comparison. For reference, I professionally book travel for my company's C-suite (CEO/CFO/CSO). Our CEO and CSO are religious AA flyers, I personally am a Star Alliance guy, so I almost always fly United, Lufthansa, Swiss, or Turkish. Domestically, the only sensible option is JetBlue imo, free Wi-Fi, and a good loyalty program, can't ask for more when a lounge isn't needed. That said, this was the first year that on my own international flights that I didn't fly on a Star Alliance carrier from my home base, Boston. This year I flew on KLM to Amsterdam in March, Delta on their A330-900 coming back (the highlight of this year by far) and BA to Berlin (BOS-LHR-BER) and here are my findings:
BA is trash - unless it's $400 less than other carriers (as it was for me since that was my only non-solo trip of the year with my sister who is a fellow at Baylor and was on call on the weekends before and after our trip to Berlin and thus had to be available in Houston, TX for the entire weekend).
United/Lufthansa/Swiss: When you have status, it's not half bad. I went to Spain in 2023 and there was some weird glitch that made online check-in unavailable to me, and I had to check-in at the airport to get my boarding passes (1-stopper in MUC). Because of those issues, they gave me lounge access when I was flying economy to Madrid from Boston, and a free upgrade to business class on my return flight from Madrid. To be clear, I don't think I would have gotten this result if I hadn't flown on Lufthansa or Swiss on every international trip I took since being a junior in college in 2018 (Roughly 3 round trips a year from 2018 to 2020). In 2022 I flew on United to London from Boston, bid for an upgrade to premium economy that was accepted both times for less than $200 more than the original ticket price in economy. I have a lot of food allergies that are very uncommon, so I never expect to eat on a flight if I don't bring my own food. And even when I do bring my own food, I recognize I'm on a plane, no one can go anywhere, I suck at smelling but still know things have smells, so I try to have really neutral things as snacks throughout the flight. All of that is to say that food never matters to me... except for on UA24 when they operated a 767-300 ER from BOS-LHR, to date after more than 78 flights in 2 years, was just the second time out of those 78 flights that I have been able to eat a meal on board a plane, it was breakfast on landing to LHR and it was scrumptious. Whenever I fly United internationally again, I'll book into Premium/Business class just in case I can have that meal again.
KLM: KLM was overpriced, and okay at best. Literally nothing to write home nor online about. other than if you aren't borderline bulimic, you might find the seats rather narrow. I couldn't imagine flying them any longer than 7 hours or so.
Delta: If I couldn't fly business class, premium economy or even economy on Delta could be the best bang for your buck available for very and ultra long-haul flights. There's no comparison from any other New World carrier imo.
Thanks for the fact filled reviews. I flew premium coach from SFO to Taipei on EVA airline this past March. Worth every penny! I am flying Delta premium to São Paulo in a couple weeks and I am now looking forward to that flight!
hey jeb brooks can you make a video of southwest hubs .i watch your videos and there fun to Watch . i like that video when you went to Cindy Australia to Dallas on qantas airlines. can you pls make that video of southwest hubs pls
Great, informative vid!
I can't stand AA, & I live 20 miles from CLT. I will change planes in ATL, BOS, or JFK with Delta, over a direct flight from AA. We went to London in May & changed planes in BOS.. I love the Delta A330 cus economy as 2,4,2 seats & of course the wife gets the window. Thanks Greensboro neighbors for another great vid production.
You stay near the Brooks family?
Yes! For sure the Delta A330 or 767s are great in economy to have a pair of seats!
That sucks to live so close to a hub that has an airline you hate. I live in Seattle so Alaska is the main carrier, I'm glad I like them! 😂
I live in Portland and the main carrier is Alaska. Any day of the week I would MUCH rather take a stop and fly delta. Even if it means giving up a nonstop flight
I suspect the grass is always greener on the other side. We had great American flights this past spring, and consistently poor service on Delta. Go figure?
My favorite channel😊
Wow, thanks!
Thank you so much for this video. I am looking into going to Europe in April and was looking st Premium Economy options.
So happy to find you guys! Subscribed 🙂
So this is basically what international economy was 20 years ago.
Jeb, thank you for your articulate and informative reports. You are first rate!
Great to see you both for another Trans Atlantic adventure. Jetsetting around the world and sharing invaluable information with the masses. Thank you both!
Jebsetting?
❤❤❤ I just love the Brooks, I don't rush to watch your lovely videos, I take my time so I wnt be disturbed
$2200 for a 6 hour premium economy is insane. I just bought one way Q suites for $1850 on a 14 hour flight.
which Qatar route? Great deal.
Good for you ! 👍🤣
This was a purely circumlocutory experience, but your voices are so soothing.
Jeb...ever considering going a watch podcast, you're collection looks great. Parmagiani 👀
I took Premium Economy on Lufthansa from Munich to Chicago. Having mobility issues, I mainly wanted the leg rest on the seat, which worked well for me. The food, drinks and service were great. The ticket came through Viking Cruises, so it was only a few hundred dollars more than Economy. Thank you Viking. Lufthansa booked me a wheelchair between terminals in Munich, but it never arrived so I had to walk a very long way quickly. They also landed at Terminal 5 at O'Hare, which was a 2 1/2 nightmare that I will never do again.
Great review as always. Sad to see that my switch to AA for the next couple of years will not payoff in this category of flight. I used to fly Delta but they got to expensive and I was getting better treatment with AA frequent flyer program. I am domestic flier only though. Suggestion: Put a chart/table at the end show the prices between all three airlines and the two classes of service. Makes it easier to pause and contemplate during your summary section at the end. Plus I a visual guy. Otherwise I love your channel and you two as a team. Cheers!
This is a good suggestion, thanks!
Fantastic video! Not surprised by the overall winner in the category.
I flew Premium Economy with Air France from Paris to Miami 2 years ago on a 777 and it was great I think it is the best compromise between comfort and price with better seat food and amenities without paying the full price of a business class seat
You two are so cute together. I'm too old to travel anymore (93), so live through your trips. Thanks so much!! xoxoxo
Wow more premium economy? I think you should try Kemore Air's seaplane flights. I was looking forward for another Jeb video!
International premium economy this time!
Congrats and thanks.. I watch a lot of this content and this is the most useful info I’ve seen.
This is a comment before I watch the video, I think it’s worth it if you’re in the bulkhead (I’m 5’ 7”) and that’s really it. I am not a fan of it at all on Delta’s A350 but the rest of the fleet, specifically their 339 is amazing. 0:17
Extremely helpful, thank you. As always, done with intelligence, facts, and great editing.
Glad to see Delta has stepped up their inflight service recently. It was a rough one for a while after COVID getting the flight attendants to do anything above bare minimum.
Sad how people can be so programmed and willing to throw any sense right out the window.
For an international flight, I’ve flown premium economy on Air France 2x, on level 1x. Flown business class 1x on air Europa. Air France food was disappointing. Level was good, but seat selection was weird. They sent an email saying they chartered our flight out. Then our seats changed and my friend and I were split up on different rows. Then changed back to level but our seats didn’t go back to original ones we chose. Air Europa was my first business class experience and was awesome!! So for me, anything overseas will be premium economy or above.
Premium economy should not be anymore than double the price of regular economy
Nice Parmigiani Fleurier! Great video.