American Airlines Still Doesn’t Care (Business Class Fail)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @kikyochan66
    @kikyochan66 4 месяца назад +885

    American Airlines deserve your criticism. Unfortunately, I’ve had to fly American Airlines one too many times, customer service is definitely their lowest priority.

    • @ksang0013
      @ksang0013 4 месяца назад +25

      They've gotten so bad in the last year or two.

    • @Ps5prolite
      @Ps5prolite 4 месяца назад +1

      Americans belong in the cargo hold lol

    • @shashankshekhar2611
      @shashankshekhar2611 4 месяца назад +16

      they are absolutely the worst, never fly AA if you have any other option, crew is vile!

    • @JacquesCukierkorn
      @JacquesCukierkorn 4 месяца назад +11

      The customer is always wrong and is an annoyance for AA workers.

    • @Tilt-N-Chill
      @Tilt-N-Chill 4 месяца назад +2

      That is so sad that customer service is not a priority. It should be!

  • @seanpatullo8919
    @seanpatullo8919 4 месяца назад +316

    I’m a flight attendant and I’d NEVER expect to get served before full paying passengers. It’s definitely not allowed at my airline always, anyone who thinks full paying pax deserve less than you is wrong

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 4 месяца назад +2

      i am racist

    • @minyiiiii
      @minyiiiii 4 месяца назад +16

      @@alainportant6412 sir, this is a wendy's

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 4 месяца назад

      @@minyiiiii sorry

    • @mattfield3371
      @mattfield3371 4 месяца назад +1

      Right? What says not caring about your paying customers more than prioritizing them last? That would only make sure I do as much possible to use any airline but that one.

    • @mjbset93
      @mjbset93 3 месяца назад

      Use of that “everyone is so creative” clip was perfection. 😂😂

  • @MrMakeDo
    @MrMakeDo 4 месяца назад +1270

    As an FA myself I’m horrified that the positioning crew got served preferentially before paying passengers. Thats terrible!

    • @mmc9828
      @mmc9828 4 месяца назад +29

      @@briangasser973 That's not always the case. Sometimes they like to mix it up a bit and start taking orders from the back row of Business. I've seen that many times. It's all up to the lead FA.

    • @RodrigoCorte-rh3wg
      @RodrigoCorte-rh3wg 4 месяца назад +16

      @@kmm2320 because they are not paying for the flight

    • @KrisKk08
      @KrisKk08 4 месяца назад +16

      If you’re feeling that horrified, I can guarantee you’re not a US carrier Flight attendant? Am I right?

    • @d3kingg387
      @d3kingg387 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MrMakeDo Not at all. On alternating days they begin service from row 1 and other days from the last row.

    • @surferdude44444
      @surferdude44444 4 месяца назад +58

      My wife is a FA for a major top five international airline. I can assure you, when I get the chance to non rev in J class or even Y class, we are the last people to be asked our choice of entrees. The full fare revenue passengers (the ones who pay $10-15k for their Hkg to Lhr or Jfk business seat) gets priority on all meal selections. Shame on you AA. Plastic glasses for champagne!!

  • @thehangmansdaughter1120
    @thehangmansdaughter1120 4 месяца назад +338

    I don't think it's entitled to complain about business class. You pay a LOT for that ticket, thousands of dollars. You expect the price to be reflected in the service.

    • @dereksbooks
      @dereksbooks 4 месяца назад +21

      Most of the profits for airlines are driven by business and first class fares. If anyone has a "right" to be critical and to have high expectations, it's people paying premium rates that keep airlines running. I'm not surprised that AA is poor.

    • @rich-tp2dx
      @rich-tp2dx 3 месяца назад

      I agree. My home airport (EWR) is one of the most well connected but also cheapest airports to fly internationally . Cheapest full service carrier across the pond is like $2,600, but often fares are $3,200-3,500. For that price yes I will be a courteous and respectful customer but yeah you're gonna need more than a serving and clean up pass through to impress me. That's ok in a 2hr domestic flight but not Intl. UAL is usually pretty good in my experience (ofc im biased from EWR). I often stay up all night on flights and they'll still come by to see if I need anything if they see my computer on (even if thats booze which any airline tends to not want to over serve)

  • @peterbooth6753
    @peterbooth6753 4 месяца назад +115

    Just flew Virgin Atlantic economy from JFK LHR. The FAs were warm, friendly and obviously loved their jobs. I asked two about this. “Our management want us to be happy and encourage us to be ourselves and let our personality show”
    They were helpful, smiley, and obviously all liked each other.

    • @michaelsmith697
      @michaelsmith697 4 месяца назад +2

      Sounds like a much better experience!!!

  • @trainsplanesandotherthings5187
    @trainsplanesandotherthings5187 4 месяца назад +450

    I sold all my AA stocks due to all the bad reviews... I don't want to invest in an airline that is horrible. Paying Customers should come 1st not the crew flying free. The customers are they ones keeping you employed. So embarrassing ..

    • @ascendantP
      @ascendantP 4 месяца назад +21

      Hopefully you got out before the stock price crashed. Unfortunately, I still have 200 share of AAL left.

    • @mmc9828
      @mmc9828 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ascendantP I hadn't heard about this. How much did they lose and why did it happen? I am Executive Platinum on AA so you'd think I would know, but I don't.

    • @thomas-xj1hs
      @thomas-xj1hs 4 месяца назад +26

      @@ascendantP Rule number 1: Never invest in an airline!

    • @seancatacombs
      @seancatacombs 4 месяца назад +17

      US airlines get away with crummy business class because most American passengers flying international business just want the lie flat and will immediately go to sleep for the entire flight, often skipping meal service. A truly global Zipair-style disruptor offering lie flat seats with zero service in exchange for rock bottom pricing would likely devastate the American airlines' business class profits.

    • @evaz9606
      @evaz9606 4 месяца назад

      Then go to your slaving employees middle east career, im sure youll like it better there.

  • @PLH483
    @PLH483 4 месяца назад +223

    Couldn’t agree more Dan. Their business class is a joke. My wife and I visit our son in North Carolina from LHR and the only direct flight is on AA. So we suffer it. We treated ourselves to business class once and it was poor from start to finish.The check in staff barely acknowledged us, the crew on board were hopeless. The cabin was full of off duty staff having a party and the food was awful. Never again would we waste our hard earned money on AA.

    • @Ps5prolite
      @Ps5prolite 4 месяца назад

      Only fly airlines in China and Japan and Singapore. The rest are trash

  • @sean_king
    @sean_king 4 месяца назад +149

    What is it about bad service here? Ground crew barking at PAYING PREMIUM PASSENGERS, cabin crew ignoring the calls from PAYING PREMIUM PASSENGERS, and then the guy even "challenged" a PAYING PREMIUM PASSENGER for the broken headphone, as if he doesn't know what he's talking about

    • @ianworthington2324
      @ianworthington2324 4 месяца назад +12

      AA ground agents, at both check in and gates, can easily be amongst the worst I've experienced. Lounge staff though seem to get it right.

  • @coasternut3091
    @coasternut3091 4 месяца назад +54

    The problem is that people who fly US carriers inside the US rarely have other options. You usually just have to fly based on whatever hub is closest to you. So people end up flying airlines they hate because there's no other option or because it's the only one they've flown, they think they're all like that

    • @xstensl8823
      @xstensl8823 4 месяца назад +3

      i now fly between LAX and BKK on ANA. fantastic business class. puts United to shame.

    • @TrumponSoaksUpRed
      @TrumponSoaksUpRed 3 месяца назад

      @@xstensl8823US carriers notably Delta and United have put in a lot of investments and improved a lot.

    • @rich-tp2dx
      @rich-tp2dx 3 месяца назад +2

      I think people often overlook this. Unless you're very deep into a rewards program it often makes more sense to just book whatever time/price is best for you. I am a lifelong united flyer but took a delta flight as it was the only nonstop offered and a meal for a 1.5hr flight was welcome! LGA-OMA so not exactly big money either. United just gives you a bag of pretzels for EWR-ORD (which should have premium service fwiw)

    • @TrumponSoaksUpRed
      @TrumponSoaksUpRed 3 месяца назад

      @@xstensl8823 Delta and United international business class are quite good. And AA business class still has one of the best beddings. Even this reviewer you watched says so.

    • @coasternut3091
      @coasternut3091 Месяц назад +1

      @@xstensl8823 I have 3 options where I live:
      United to Chicago, then where I want to actually go
      Delta to Atlanta or Detroit, then wherever
      Or American to Dallas or Charlotte, then wherever
      The only other option would be to drive to Nashville, but then the main airline is Southwest, which is worse

  • @nitzer280
    @nitzer280 4 месяца назад +72

    I've never been on an AA flight. I hope to continue this for the rest of my life.

    • @ryanleclaire3948
      @ryanleclaire3948 4 месяца назад +1

      They used to be good years ago, before the merger with US

  • @ZCherish
    @ZCherish 4 месяца назад +317

    Dan, listen; if you want to bash an airline, fine. The people who work there, fair game. But if you attack my precious cranberry juice in a can, there's gonna be words had, sir

    • @SuperDibbya
      @SuperDibbya 4 месяца назад +11

      😅😅😂😂

    • @NZKiwi87
      @NZKiwi87 4 месяца назад +27

      I couldn’t BELIEVE the grams of sugar in that! That’s almost double what’s in a can of Coke, yikes!

    • @stacym735
      @stacym735 4 месяца назад +2

      😂

    • @keltaruusutravels4024
      @keltaruusutravels4024 4 месяца назад +8

      Diabetes in a can. 😅

    • @GloomGaiGar
      @GloomGaiGar 3 месяца назад +3

      juice? you mean syrup?

  • @kellyk3222
    @kellyk3222 4 месяца назад +106

    If that is how they treat paying business class passengers, how about the economy class passengers?

    • @shashankshekhar2611
      @shashankshekhar2611 4 месяца назад +9

      they expect nothing, get nothing!

    • @sbyers1978
      @sbyers1978 4 месяца назад +11

      Cattle...

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining 4 месяца назад +5

      You don't wanna know bud. I once got told not to drink directly from a can on AA, when I asked why I was told that sometimes rats *** on the cans when they are left out on the tarmac. Seriously, that was what the FA said.

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 4 месяца назад +6

      @@karmatraining Last night on a Flagship Business Class redeye, I asked about milk with the meal and the FA said: "It goes from cold to hot to cold. Some people have gotten sick from drinking it. You should choose something else."

    • @ryanscottlogan8459
      @ryanscottlogan8459 4 месяца назад +1

      I enjoyed this video Dan!It is terrible how customer service has declined on airlines while prices have gone through the roof.I hope you are enjoying your summer.Ryan in NYC ☺️

  • @harrymooseknuckle6640
    @harrymooseknuckle6640 4 месяца назад +25

    The worst part is their "customer service". AA will routinely lie to passengers about delays, cancellations, etc and when caught, refuse to even apologize. All we expect is that you be honest when you're giving bad news, stop trying to pass the blame.

  • @lebronjohnson6735
    @lebronjohnson6735 4 месяца назад +214

    I love that they gave zero fucks that they're clearly being reviewed.

    • @NonstopDan
      @NonstopDan  4 месяца назад +77

      True New Yorkers😭😂

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 месяца назад +46

      They obviously don't have a "Sam Chui" policy haha. I.e. when a known flight reviewer is on board make sure they get the best service. Though some have a "Josh Cahill" policy where if Josh is spotted on a flight immediately kick him off the flight and threaten legal action against him.

    • @frankperkin124
      @frankperkin124 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@NonstopDanAll I can say is F New York.

    • @GOOGLM3_NY
      @GOOGLM3_NY 4 месяца назад

      @@NonstopDan Lol. Clown.

    • @rich-tp2dx
      @rich-tp2dx 3 месяца назад +1

      @@NonstopDan it's so difficult trying to explain how this attitude can be endearing and infuriating at the same time. New Yorkers will walk past an armed robbery but will help you pick up your groceries after your bag rips. Weird place

  • @ceddiec1111
    @ceddiec1111 4 месяца назад +78

    Wait a minute. You paid for a premium ticket and AA wanted another $29 for Wifi? Spirit Airlines would be proud of the grift!

    • @bobsatawake964
      @bobsatawake964 4 месяца назад +4

      Yes, even passengers in premium cabins pay for WiFi on AA

    • @rawrberrys
      @rawrberrys 4 месяца назад +2

      Nah, even Spirit airline would be APPALLED at that grift...

    • @reginabillotti
      @reginabillotti Месяц назад +1

      @@rawrberrys Spirit now has complimentary wifi with their premium economy ("go big") tickets. (Can't really call it business class but with 2x2 seating, it's pretty good for premium economy)

  • @rogerdsmith
    @rogerdsmith 4 месяца назад +44

    Ever since the US Air merger/takeover of American, it’s become an entirely different airline. They needed to use the American Airlines branding to escape from the reputation they had. Things were very, very different when Bob Crandall was running American. That’s at least 30 years ago.

    • @N464AT
      @N464AT 4 месяца назад +6

      AMR has been treating their employees like shit for decades and it’s become their culture to treat their customers with such indifference.

    • @ashgreene4914
      @ashgreene4914 4 месяца назад +2

      @@N464AT this isn't AMR anymore, that died when the America West/US Airways take over was done. Its now called the American 'Airlines Group. This management was supposed to make this new merged company better according to what they promised the unions who they wanted to have their support for the take over to occur. When i used to work for American back in the 00s the service was not perfect, yes there were a few indifferent employees amongst the good ones but I do remember the onboard service being better than what I saw in this trip report and this clearly shows that management at that company has gotten worse and not better as they promised when the merger happened.

    • @goldgeologist5320
      @goldgeologist5320 4 месяца назад +2

      Yep US Air merger tanked American. Any merger results in the poorer company changing the culture of the better company.
      Another example was United and Continental. Continental was great!

    • @seannyice8130
      @seannyice8130 3 месяца назад +2

      Can confirm. As someone who used (had) to fly US quite about out of DCA and CLT, I saw the sour attitude spread across AA post merger. How they've been able to survive this long with their attitude is a feat. I fly UA and B6 now if possible. Both Polaris and Mint have had much, much better soft product. With exception of one FA on UA IAD-LHR.

  • @NoahPlaysMC3
    @NoahPlaysMC3 4 месяца назад +41

    Most recently, I've been called a "puta" by an AA agent over the phone, in addition to being told "ok, and what do you expect me to do about it?" after informing an FA about the fact that I'd ordered a special meal that wasn't loaded. AA is the pits.

  • @charleskennedy1712
    @charleskennedy1712 4 месяца назад +56

    I've flown AA 3-4 times this year including 2x LAX to LHR and my experience is identical to yours -- the hostility of every single employee I interacted with shocked the conscience. I like AA's later transatlantic departure times going east (even on the day-tripper from JFK apparently!) but they're just too mean. I'll stick to BA across the pond, and thank god Alaska have joined oneworld for US internal

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 месяца назад +2

      Alaska is probably worse for it, their service has deteriorated since joining One World. My biggest Alaska pet peeve is having the damn cleaning crew on the plane before the passengers are off, it's like I don't want to dodge a cleaning person while I'm trying to get my carry on and get off the plane.

  • @karmatraining
    @karmatraining 4 месяца назад +8

    To the AA SVP who said food doesn't matter, people just want to be one time...I have a revolutionary suggestion...how about be on time with great food? I'm confident one of the world's largest airlines can achieve it, considering all the Asian airlines do it really well.

  • @fenixrock80
    @fenixrock80 4 месяца назад +74

    I am based in Charlotte so American is my default for most travel. American's operations infrastructure is usually good...meaning on time flights, quick and easy to fix issues, good boarding cadence once you are experienced. It makes it predictable and easy for frequent domestic business travel. The service product is awful. Like reaaaaally awful.

    • @Mark_McC
      @Mark_McC 4 месяца назад +19

      That’s the issue right there. The American staff act like it’s beneath them to even speak with you. There service is always terrible now. Look, domestic US flying is a bus in the air business now. No carrier is great. The difference with AA is, if i fly with them i’m guaranteed to be pissed off when i leave the plane.

    • @kerotomas1
      @kerotomas1 4 месяца назад +8

      Now unfortunately to AA most international flights are not business trips unlike domestic so people don’t really give a shit to being on time (obviously not hours of delays but 30 minutes or an hour is perfectly acceptable). On the other hand catering is one of if not the most important part of these fligths.

    • @charliesandoval9277
      @charliesandoval9277 4 месяца назад +6

      I live in Charlotte and AA handles over 90% of the flights here with many non-stop routes. AA is the only one with non-stops to LHR and the airfare reflects their monopoly. Why should they provide superior service if they hold such a large share? I have flown to ORD, BWI, JFK, or MIA so that I can fly British Airways and get so much better service and food. The contentious labor dispute between Flight Attendants and AA could be the cause of service erosion and indifference to customers. Honestly, they’ve become a flying credit card company. Take an application from a FA and you’ll see him/her smile and light-up.

    • @WhatsThePoints1
      @WhatsThePoints1 4 месяца назад

      @@Mark_McCAlaska is pretty good idk

  • @LivingTheDream21
    @LivingTheDream21 4 месяца назад +50

    I applaud you for blurring out people in business class and giving them the privacy they paid for 👏 🙌

  • @Jeremy-km1cu
    @Jeremy-km1cu 4 месяца назад +228

    The Leonardo Di Caprio reference 😂

    • @Amb-tastic
      @Amb-tastic 4 месяца назад +7

      I squeaked. It was great!

  • @Andrew_Kohn
    @Andrew_Kohn 4 месяца назад +25

    There's a massive contrast between the FA crews based out of JFK and DFW. Flew J class LHR-DFW on the 773ER, the FA's were all warm and friendly

    • @kimberlyoldschool
      @kimberlyoldschool 4 месяца назад +3

      I flew first class on AA PHL-DFW and the FAs and service were perfection. I got a handwritten postcard from a FA at the end of the flight, thanking me for being a customer - have never had that happen before! Must be the DFW effect.

    • @danip3270
      @danip3270 3 месяца назад

      I agree. I fly almost every week, and have many miles on the 3 major airlines here in the U.S. I’ve been burned by all 3 of them, with many stories to tell. I’ve also had great service from all 3. I have most of my miles with American, and have been treated very well by the staff. I think it’s unfair to judge any airline by a couple staff members, really bad weather, or the food they give you. At the end of the day, I want to get to my destination safely and as comfortably as possible.

  • @diver11b1p2
    @diver11b1p2 4 месяца назад +197

    American Airlines is a bus line in the sky, not a "luxury" product....

    • @AnthonyBradshaw-z6l
      @AnthonyBradshaw-z6l 4 месяца назад +8

      Couldn't agree more

    • @WahabGoldsmith
      @WahabGoldsmith 4 месяца назад +21

      Then they shouldn’t charge luxury prices on their products

    • @ryanleclaire3948
      @ryanleclaire3948 4 месяца назад +3

      AA, since the merger with US, changed their model to a low frills/quasi-budget model airline. Because of that, they shouldn't be charging luxury level prices. All they care about is maximizing profits, pleasing their shareholders, and eliminating features to generate more revenue; the customer comes last. That merger should have NEVER went through

    • @redbird444
      @redbird444 4 месяца назад +1

      Actually, they are the largest Commuter Airline in the world. The number of seats on the plane is irrelevant.

    • @ScottSpotMedia
      @ScottSpotMedia 4 месяца назад +2

      Sometimes it's an actual bus!

  • @daanachmad4032
    @daanachmad4032 3 месяца назад +6

    Hold on, you got threats from AA flight attendants because you complained about the deadheading crew members being serve first?
    WTF?
    This is another level of bad hospitality.

  • @seancatacombs
    @seancatacombs 4 месяца назад +50

    The main advantage of US airlines (or United at least, being the only one I have experience with) is their apps and constant updates & communication about flight status. After a flight cancellation nightmare that resulted in two almost-missed connections and lost luggage with SQ of all airlines, I've flipped my priorities around to being OK with so-so soft product and even hard product so long as the ground experience is top notch. United absolutely babies you with text and app updates every 30 minutes about where your plane is, when boarding starts, gates changes, etc etc, which is the best when you're exhausted and discombobulated from 20+ hours of long haul travel

    • @nico_pen
      @nico_pen 4 месяца назад +5

      You can get that on other airlines, AF or KLM for example

    • @Jgutin1
      @Jgutin1 4 месяца назад

      @@nico_pendisagree AF app is awful.

    • @kevinquartemont2313
      @kevinquartemont2313 4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, I agree. United does an excellent job of keeping you updated on gates, time changes, etc...but what is even nicer is the peace of mind being able to know where your luggage is. I really like these characteristics about United.

    • @pleiadesneptunes
      @pleiadesneptunes 3 месяца назад +1

      sorry, but I expect more from an airline for 10 000 $, and have never not made a connection for lack of information. Travel is sh..t these days, it is that simple.

    • @AstonVantage8
      @AstonVantage8 18 дней назад +1

      I cannot agree with u more. After using websites from Eva, Cathay, BA and others I came to appreciate how good and polished United’s IT is. I guess it’s fair to say a country’s flagship airline is a good reflection of the country’s strength and weakness.

  • @zipjay
    @zipjay 4 месяца назад +4

    The worst thing about AA domestically is right after you get to cruise altitude, they come on the PA and start dumping their credit card spill on you.

  • @nonstops_aviation
    @nonstops_aviation 4 месяца назад +54

    To sum things up, paying a big price for business class on a US carrier isn't worth it if you get a free upgrade take it but if you don't just stick with economy or fly another airline.

    • @StallionFX1
      @StallionFX1 4 месяца назад +7

      Completly agree! The ONLY US airline “first class” product that I feel is worth the price (or even service in general), is JetBlue Mint. Not only is levels ahead of all other US carriers combined, but also a fraction of the cost as well. I do occasionally like Delta as well, but they barely make the cut. US airlines in general seriously lack even a decent product and are way behind in comparison to other world airlines.

    • @ltltornado3337
      @ltltornado3337 4 месяца назад

      This

    • @Kekamalei
      @Kekamalei 4 месяца назад +1

      Please fly Spirit.

    • @jocelynharris-fx8ho
      @jocelynharris-fx8ho 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@StallionFX1 makes me wish the glory days of aviation would come back when we had a wider choice of airlines and some of them actually made your flight a fun and enjoyable experience.

    • @briansguy
      @briansguy 4 месяца назад

      @@StallionFX1 because they're mainly focused on domestic flights that are 5 hours or less. But international business or first class on Delta or United are at least half a step up from what you would get on a national flight. But the exception is with AA, not so much...

  • @victor________
    @victor________ 4 месяца назад +167

    The AA crew on a flight to Paris laughed as they put the noise cancelling headphones in their bags and stole them. They also put a whole bunch of mini champagne bottles in their bags. Honestly they just hire anyone

    • @redademe
      @redademe 4 месяца назад +16

      I highly doubt they got champagne, AFAIK AA doesn't serve proper champagne on their flights, just cheap sparkling things. Though knowing who they hire, they would still believe it is champagne.

    • @jocelynharris-fx8ho
      @jocelynharris-fx8ho 4 месяца назад +4

      Ironically, I just finished watching an old commercial from the 70's where they sing the jingle, "we're American Airlines, doing what we do best". They're the best at doing the worst .

    • @angelmiras5808
      @angelmiras5808 4 месяца назад +5

      @@redademe they do serve champagne on some international flights but nothing memorable. On Domestic flight just prosecco.

    • @kentfrederick8929
      @kentfrederick8929 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@redademe Most Americans think all sparkling wines are champagne, and the USDA allows domestic sparkling wine to be labeled "champagne," if produced using Methode Champenois. Frankly, I'm satisfied with Korbel Brut. It's not like American is serving Cook's which is a horrible sparking wine from New York State.

    • @stevens1041
      @stevens1041 4 месяца назад +8

      Yeah they do. For instance when they hired my ex-gf, the biggest cheater in the business.

  • @maryannherrera7182
    @maryannherrera7182 4 месяца назад +35

    We recently flew AA business class from London to LA and had similar viewpoints. I was in row 2 thinking I would get to select lunch options early on. Unfortunately they started at the rear of 2nd so ran out of my 1st choice. The flight attendants could not be found again once meal was over. No 2nd glass of wine for me. Additionally, even though we were flying during daytime they told everyone to close their windows, shut off the lights and basically seemed to expect we’d all sleep the 11 hours returning to LA. We will not go back….other US and Euro airlines do a much better job. The lack of service was appalling.

    • @kens8776
      @kens8776 4 месяца назад +1

      On AA, meal selection starts in the back on odd number flights, front on even number flights. At least that's the way it used to be. 2.5 million miles (in a seat!) on AA here. Lifetime Platinum. The US Airways merger diluted my status substantially. I fly only for pleasure now and had the best ever Biz Class flight on a 787 from Rome to DFW last year. I usually get some decent service on AA, but I agree it can be spotty.

  • @ClockworkLiam14
    @ClockworkLiam14 4 месяца назад +15

    As Crew myself we are very strictly told full fare passengers must be offered a choice first then staff

  • @kirbyketrow6846
    @kirbyketrow6846 4 месяца назад +32

    We flew American yesterday from Barcelona to Miami Business Class…you’re right about the boarding of Priority 1-4…makes no sense….in one line. Then the announce that Group 1 could board first…..so you had to push through all the people. The food was not great and we were rushed the entire time on a 9 hour flight……

    • @tgwkk9167
      @tgwkk9167 4 месяца назад +3

      I usually board as late as possible especially when I have checked bags in Europe…. Once so late BA missed their slot and it cost them $$$$ - my little get back to them!

  • @timgibson6349
    @timgibson6349 4 месяца назад +27

    I recently flew AA in Premium Economy from CDG to JFK on a 777.200. Just two rows. The meal choice ran out at row 1. No apologies... u get pasta. We did have more legroom. The very seasoned JFK based f/a, when I sympathized with her over their product, went in to a trade. "I have been flying for 35 years and I can't hold Rome' . This means there are even more senior AA f/a's who can bid for and fly to Rome. Lesson is, unless u like f/a's who have been flying more that 35 years and hate their job, then don't fly transatlantic on AA to Europe. It was horrific and just a union based product. This woman had NO clue.
    I went back on AF and what a pleasant experience. Similarly mature f/a's but they delivered 100% . The AA gang just need to be pentioned off as they do the carrier absolutely no good.

  • @MH370PleaseComeBack
    @MH370PleaseComeBack 3 месяца назад +4

    I love how you manage to take us up there with you, Dan, you're so lucky to do this full time! Please keep making amazing videos!

  • @ndegepilot
    @ndegepilot 4 месяца назад +25

    I have found that the New York and Philly based American Airlines crews, in particular, are the worst at customer service. They are very standoffish and can be shouty with passengers with no provocation. Not good.

    • @429ecs
      @429ecs 4 месяца назад +1

      100% agree

    • @fromrighttoleft8328
      @fromrighttoleft8328 3 месяца назад

      Add Miami (American), Atlanta (Delta) and Houston (United) to that worst list. Seattle (Alaska and Delta both) is also pretty lousy anymore. Miserable crews usually. By contrast, Delta crews from California and the Midwest are still good usually.

  • @marlopeterson8283
    @marlopeterson8283 4 месяца назад +26

    Went to heck in 1998, spiraled into bankruptsy, ruined TWA, and never recovered.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 месяца назад +4

      And that's before the reverse merger where America West assumed AAs identity like they did with US Air. Remember AA as we currently know it is actually America West.

  • @mackieverga
    @mackieverga 4 месяца назад +33

    “I’ve flown over 160 airlines, mostly business class,” that’s when I knew I’m so poor. Ahhaha!

  • @raifhol
    @raifhol 4 месяца назад +105

    American is competing with United for the worst food award. Had a friend bring a "small pantry" with him on an AA business class flight knowing how disappointing the food would be.

    • @eahoward83
      @eahoward83 4 месяца назад +3

      I now do this every time after a long domestic flight with nothing but "golden chicken" on the menu 🤢

  • @stj53
    @stj53 4 месяца назад +9

    As an Atlantan, I'm a Delta fan and hope their product exceeds expectations but as an American, I'm rather ashamed that we can't seem to offer world class service from an airline named 'American.' Part of the problem is, I think, the fact that profit trumps all other considerations in our country.

  • @zoomcctv
    @zoomcctv 4 месяца назад +40

    This makes BA club world look good and that’s an achievement. So well done AA !

  • @mskarataylor
    @mskarataylor 2 месяца назад +2

    I love the sarcasm and the honesty - made my morning! And that cookie - definitely with $10,000 😂

  • @AngieRTaylor
    @AngieRTaylor 4 месяца назад +56

    Wow… sounds like the American boarding / gate agents are turning into Frontier gate agents…. I am growing tired of being barked at from gate agents…

    • @ANF4LYFE
      @ANF4LYFE 4 месяца назад

      @@briangasser973 Exactly! A flight attendant clearly broke his heart in the past and this is his revenge lol

    • @_powerrranger
      @_powerrranger 4 месяца назад +9

      @@briangasser973 he's usually pretty polite. I doubt he'd do such a cynical thing just to get a reaction

  • @robinmasters2530
    @robinmasters2530 4 месяца назад +11

    Right there is the answer as to why American Airlines isn't anywhere near the standard of Singapore, Emirates, Qatar or Qantas, etc, etc. When the airline staff believe they are there to be served not paying customers, it illustrates the culture that no doubt controls the company.

  • @BreezySundaysOfficial
    @BreezySundaysOfficial 4 месяца назад +67

    Bro said soft product twice 😂

  • @koreyb99
    @koreyb99 4 месяца назад +8

    After 12 years, first time I haven't had AA status. Switched to Delta out of PHX.

  • @anantgoyal575
    @anantgoyal575 4 месяца назад +24

    Thanks for the honest review!

  • @SW-bw4xk
    @SW-bw4xk 4 месяца назад +26

    My neighbors pile of leaves lmao 🤣 😂😂

  • @afonsosantarem
    @afonsosantarem 4 месяца назад +8

    I flown AA business class from New York to London on the B777-300 and I can say that my flight was great! The food was good and the cabin crew was amazing. Is a shame that this doesn’t happen on all flights.

  • @StanWatt.
    @StanWatt. 3 месяца назад +1

    I flew from the U.S. to the UK on my way home and their crew in cattle class were awful. They did everything except cuss out passengers. I'll never fly with them again if I can help it.

  • @crBudgetWatches
    @crBudgetWatches 4 месяца назад +12

    These meals are in business????? I can’t imagine what the economy meals look like !

    • @Goaltimer
      @Goaltimer 4 месяца назад +1

      Probably the usual pasta or chicken choice.

    • @MarieBiller-j9s
      @MarieBiller-j9s 4 месяца назад

      It’s bad. Very bad.

  • @orlandorallegue4046
    @orlandorallegue4046 3 месяца назад +1

    Flew American for 15 years being bi coastal residents! I kept a folder of all the complaints and abused we received by the staff because of our pet. We paid $200 round trip every 2 weeks still the abuse was so unfair! We. Lee business class most times. New York - Miami. Good REPORT

  • @rmcqua
    @rmcqua 4 месяца назад +12

    In the 80s and 90s I flew very regularly TA with AA in business class. Boy, do they seem to have deteriorated!

  • @jeremycarr2712
    @jeremycarr2712 4 месяца назад +6

    $10,000 and you have to pay for WI-FI, WTF??

  • @happilyretired
    @happilyretired 4 месяца назад +2

    Fly American Airlines Flagship First Class on a 777-300ER from Los Angeles to Sydney. It is top notch, "A Number One". The food, the accommodations, the comfort is second to none.

  • @donegood8712
    @donegood8712 4 месяца назад +41

    Never fly American Airline or any US Airline internationally.

    • @trevorjohnson8993
      @trevorjohnson8993 4 месяца назад +5

      Delta and United are not bad. I would avoid AA if you can

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 4 месяца назад +1

      @@wwt17UA is getting there.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 месяца назад +3

      Delta isn't bad, United is good in business class. Both are much better than AA.

  • @willem-henridenhartog1722
    @willem-henridenhartog1722 4 месяца назад +24

    Sam Chui’s review of a couple of weeks ago he had the same experience as you: terrible service!

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 месяца назад +5

      Yeah, AA is slacking if they missed Sam Chui on a flight. Most airlines have a "Sam Chui" policy where if he (or several other well known flight reviewers like Dan) are spotted on a flight they are to get the absolute best service. And the reverse is true if Josh Cahill is spotted on a flight, carriers that haven't banned him yet have policies to kick him off the flight if spotted.

    • @trojanmoondoggie4582
      @trojanmoondoggie4582 4 месяца назад +1

      @@mrvwbug4423 This is why watching his reviews is pointless. They see him board and they kiss his rear end. It's not authentic. Apparently AA didn't though. Interesting.

  • @damion954
    @damion954 4 месяца назад +2

    As an airline employee, I totally agree with your criticism. One of the biggest problems is management. With the many mergers throughout the years, and with US Airways management running the new airline, their is no clear identity to what the airline is. Is it a low budget? Or is ot premium?.. different cultures, norms and standards. Until they resolve this, it will continue to be a disaster.

  • @mar1812
    @mar1812 4 месяца назад +28

    When booking a tour, I always ask my agent to try to avoid American. The crew is always sour and/or indifferent. I've seen crew roll their eyes at passengers. I flew LHR-LAX last November and the crew on our aisle was saying awful things about their fellow crew on the other aisle, as if we couldn't hear them. My friend in the aviation industry calls them bitter Dallas cows.

  • @kaicruz9912
    @kaicruz9912 3 месяца назад +1

    Middle Eastern and Asian airlines are just so much better overall. Food, customer service, style, etc.

  • @neillthornton1149
    @neillthornton1149 4 месяца назад +5

    1000000% agree the Collins seats are SO much better. My main complaint on the Safran is the laughably bad storage. There isn't even space for the things they give you for the flight.

  • @alg8181
    @alg8181 3 месяца назад +1

    I always appreciate an honest review like this. Your reviews have definitely helped me when deciding what airline to choose. I don’t fly business/ first class at all, but the information you provide in the videos gives me a better idea of which airlines are more organized and likely to get me somewhere on time. Thank you Dan.

    • @NonstopDan
      @NonstopDan  3 месяца назад

      Thank you so much for your kind words! 🙏

  • @ageoflove1980
    @ageoflove1980 4 месяца назад +12

    Funny how in the States "concierge" means something fancy. In Dutch the exact same word means janitor. "Sir!!! You have to be janitor level to stand here!!" :D

    • @marias902
      @marias902 4 месяца назад +1

      😂😂😂

  • @BwInNewJersey
    @BwInNewJersey 4 месяца назад +4

    I love the American Embraer flights. It feels like youre in the carpool lane. Everything goes faster.

  • @duanes2000
    @duanes2000 4 месяца назад +25

    I just have to laugh that the ad for this video was from American Airlines.

    • @KrisKk08
      @KrisKk08 4 месяца назад +1

      Time to pay for RUclips premium, it’s worth it.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 месяца назад +1

      @@KrisKk08 Or just get a good ad blocker ;)

    • @olivertwisted
      @olivertwisted 4 месяца назад

      @@KrisKk08 Or just use Brave and pay nothing.

  • @gooner7768
    @gooner7768 4 месяца назад +4

    The cabin crews working for AA are the worst people I have ever met on planes, and I have experienced Air India.

  • @Pointsblogger
    @Pointsblogger 4 месяца назад +5

    Not surprised. If I go to Asia or the Middle East I always pick those area airlines instead of any airline in the states.

  • @Royalpaininbum
    @Royalpaininbum 18 дней назад +1

    I know a pilot in Australia. Not only do deadhead crews get served first but passengers get bumped from business class to make way for crew. One captain refused to board the plane because he could not get business class for a 1 hour flight.

  • @FirstTravelService
    @FirstTravelService 4 месяца назад +13

    BIg D - you’re so right. The day soft product became most important to me, my days of being a stubborn AApologist ended. Really disappointing. Best to you and Big O.

  • @ecclestonsangel
    @ecclestonsangel 4 месяца назад +3

    You are so right, Dan. AA's soft product is HIDEOUS. I was flying down to DCA a couple weeks ago, from SYR, to visit my sister and vacation on Chincoteague Island.(so beautiful! You and Oskar should go there) The only reason I flew American was the had a nonstop flight from SYR- DCA. I flew down on an RJ900 in domestic first class. The flight attendants were incredibly rude and you only got a cup of soda, with no snacks, The flight attendants served ECONOMY first!!!(that was wicked rude!) Contrast this with my Delta flight from ORF back to SYR, with a layover at LGA. Again, I flew domestic first class. The flight attendants were super nice. They let you have as much as you wanted to drink; they also had pre departure beverages, which American most decidedly did NOT. Delta also gave us the premium snacks, and we could have as many as we wanted. I flew an E175 from ORF to LGA, then an RJ900 from LGA to SYR. Even though I had to connect(there are no nonstop flights from ORF-SYR) it was a way better flight on Delta than American. I wish I didn't have to fly AA at all but they are the only ones that have nonstop service to National. It really sucks!

  • @martyzeenyc1210
    @martyzeenyc1210 4 месяца назад +4

    Absolutely horrifying experience for ANY business class product. If this was in any other continent they’d be bankrupt in a few days.

  • @redcardinal1219
    @redcardinal1219 4 месяца назад +2

    Never fly to UK daytime. Always overnight, but do it right. You eat and drink at the airport, get on the plane, and be ready to sleep as soon as the wheels are up. Sleep 6 hrs, and you can have a great day. Never eat on the plane on these flights, you have no time to sleep

  • @abhigyakhandelwal9215
    @abhigyakhandelwal9215 4 месяца назад +7

    Dessert on AA business class looks so sick man, I mean vistara airlines in India serve cheesecakes for dessert in economy class to all its passengers and that too on a domestic flight.

  • @stephenutkus4873
    @stephenutkus4873 4 месяца назад +3

    I’m captive to AA in the PHL market for European flights. AA can be mediocre on food, but it is usually a lot better than your JFK to LHR service. As you noted, wine selection is very good. If they actually roll out espresso, I’ll be sold. I’d say westbound food on AA out of Europe is better because catering standards are higher there for a given price point. Philly has great food, but at PHL itself, the demand for quality isn’t there from AA. My recommendation unrelated to AA is never to eat over the overnight flight; it only delays the adjustment process. I find FAs to be generally of high quality out of PHL in business class. Check-in in PHL for business class can seem harried, and the Admiral lounge is out of date. In LHR and ZUR, two recent airports I flew out of on AA, it is exactly the opposite. And no, I couldn’t imagine a PHL based crew serving crew ahead of clients.

  • @scottvernon7347
    @scottvernon7347 4 месяца назад +36

    "everybody's so creative!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I nearly wrecked my car when she popped up..... funny!!!

    • @haute03
      @haute03 4 месяца назад

      The way I shrieked! Hilarious!!

    • @gordomctavish6599
      @gordomctavish6599 3 месяца назад

      You’re watching videos while driving? Please don’t do that, it’s worse than drunk driving.

  • @phatkid099
    @phatkid099 3 месяца назад +2

    “My appetizer is a pile of arugula”😂 laughed so hard!

  • @Francebras
    @Francebras 4 месяца назад +21

    Business class on AA is an extremely mediocre product. In the few remaining flights offering First, service is shameful.

    • @Ps5prolite
      @Ps5prolite 4 месяца назад

      It’s run by Americans. What do you expect? It’s like Peasant Airlines lol

  • @charllectric4842
    @charllectric4842 4 месяца назад +1

    4:02 "Top to bottom, front to back, she is beautiful! Even if she is 25 years old" LMAO 🤣

  • @markwils5042
    @markwils5042 4 месяца назад +20

    The best thing about AA, is they are the biggest airline in the world, and go literally everywhere; more importantly, the Advantage FF program is far more generous than United, and especially Delta.

    • @nazlannazarudin5090
      @nazlannazarudin5090 4 месяца назад +8

      Go literally everywhere? There are many many more airlines that have more destinations than AA

    • @Ninjabeefyschtick
      @Ninjabeefyschtick 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@nazlannazarudin5090actually google says the opposite. Not "Many airlines" fly to more destinations than AA, since United is the only one that flies to more destinations than AA.

    • @jackbritain
      @jackbritain 4 месяца назад +8

      @@Ninjabeefyschtick In the US maybe, but worldwide, hell nah

    • @dannigjik
      @dannigjik 4 месяца назад +1

      Exactly

    • @huuuubaah
      @huuuubaah 4 месяца назад +1

      Yep - i scream this to the heavens. They're miles are worth easily 2x-3x more than UA or DAL. Plus you can fly freaking JAL from US to TYO for 60k AA miles!!!!!!!!! I get it. AA metal is not great. But the difference in product between DAL and AA doesn't make up for the embarrassing gap between the value of AA miles v. DAL miles

  • @Sarah-kf4pl
    @Sarah-kf4pl 4 месяца назад +1

    Please continue to shine a light on all U.S. carriers with the hopes that your videos and others along with the comments will change things for the better!

  • @karols432
    @karols432 4 месяца назад +11

    At this point AA only engages in two lines of business:
    1. running flights on monopoly routes where they're able to overcharge their customers that are actually paying for their flights with cash
    2. Selling miles to credit card companies that end up only being usable used on flights where they have to compete with other airlines anyway
    In either of these cases, customer experience does not matter one bit because they realize that they're either the only direct flight available or they've already made their money from the credit card company on the back end at which point it doesn't matter how late or crappy their customer experience is

  • @KLEANTRIX
    @KLEANTRIX 4 месяца назад +2

    All reviews should be like this.... HONEST! Also AA business class is horrible.

  • @jbrown7403
    @jbrown7403 4 месяца назад +4

    Loved “now, back to the moaning” 😜
    It’s like AA isn’t even trying with the food. 🙄

  • @flyingmania4371
    @flyingmania4371 4 месяца назад +2

    I flew AA once in short haul First Class. The crew had us pass around a Snack Basket (like from one passenger to another and back to the front where she picked it up). First Class had no Biscoff in the basket so I went and got some from Coach and the First class flight attendant started lecturing me that I shouldn't be moving between cabins and 'stealing' snacks from coach.

  • @Metallex
    @Metallex 4 месяца назад +3

    I flew AA for the first time on the way back from Chicago to Manchester.
    Easily the worst long haul service I've ever had. FAs were disinterested and unfriendly, food was passable at best (I'd flown Aer Lingus out and they were great in all areas), and generally just a bit crap all round. But hey, they got me home in one piece so that's what counts I guess.

  • @ronwest7185
    @ronwest7185 4 месяца назад +1

    I once flew American between Tokyo and LA, and remember two things: the captain telling us that the cabin crew were there 'prim-ar-il-y for your safety' and the cabin crew actually spent most of their time in the galley, playing cards. This review doesn't surprise me.

  • @wilhelminemuller9024
    @wilhelminemuller9024 4 месяца назад +9

    Hahaha oh my god! Dan I loved all the sarcastic jokes in this one haha! Keep them coming

  • @RoldHa03
    @RoldHa03 3 месяца назад +2

    but American airlines' CEO wouldn't be able to buy himself another vacation home if they hired more staff :(

  • @foodbruh2251
    @foodbruh2251 4 месяца назад +5

    Crew on AA and all American Airlines are usually hit or miss, however if you have status like exec platinum or Concierge Key they are always great. Just a thought, not trying to defend poor service for most people

    • @mmc9828
      @mmc9828 4 месяца назад +1

      It is definitely hit or miss. I'm Executive Platinum and there have been flights with such rude crew I swore I'd never fly them again. But of course I do because I don't want to start over with another airline and have zero status!

    • @neotek8582
      @neotek8582 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m Concierge Key, and aside from the Gate Agents, domestic FA couldn’t give a shit. The international FA treat me far better. 😂

  • @Salmiyaguy1
    @Salmiyaguy1 3 месяца назад +2

    I never understand why first and business class customer are charged for Wifi.

  • @EthanPham1
    @EthanPham1 4 месяца назад +20

    I flew American on their 777-200 CDG-JFK and I guess it was my first time in international business, but everyone was nice 😅 (edit) I didn’t know there was still the old Concept D business seats because I flew the new Diamond seats

  • @abdullah_awan36
    @abdullah_awan36 4 месяца назад

    Dan, you don't get enough reward for the work you put in for us to be entertained! You clearly deserve to be over 1M subs by now! You got a new sub!

  • @supersonicfroot
    @supersonicfroot 4 месяца назад +3

    Aah, American Airlines, home of the shelf-stable macaroni and cheese for catering… 🥰

    • @rpsmith2990
      @rpsmith2990 4 месяца назад +1

      So if Lucy makes it to catering at LAX, she can still expect to find some that is good once she's fought off the raiders...

  • @franklinshouse8719
    @franklinshouse8719 4 месяца назад +1

    Regarding treatment by employees, my guess is that they are treated poorly by corporate AA. I believe they have been for years. Years ago, Southwest Airlines employees were treated very well, and it showed. (I don't know about today.) For AA, it has always been a constant battle between corporate and employees. So sad.

  • @rixxroxxk1620
    @rixxroxxk1620 4 месяца назад +7

    AA corporate would be explaining to me why their non rev employees are getting better service than someone who paid $6k for a round trip ticket.

  • @walla1je
    @walla1je 4 месяца назад

    Great honest review, Daniel. I’d be so disappointed with an experience like that in business class.

  • @LiviuXSA
    @LiviuXSA 4 месяца назад +10

    i laughed so hard at this video my belly hurts. thumbs up 5/5

  • @bensoane482
    @bensoane482 4 месяца назад

    Have to say, I flew AA Business just last week on the 777-300ER MIA-LHR and I couldn’t complain… hard and soft products all great and the crew were absolutely fantastic!

  • @Hoakaloa
    @Hoakaloa 4 месяца назад +3

    "even though she's 25 years old" 😆Is Leonardo still doing "that"?

  • @Hokit
    @Hokit 4 месяца назад +2

    Love that your facial expressions in the vid thumbnails already sum up how well the reviews will go 😅
    American Airlines: 😬
    Delta: 😑
    Singapore Airlines: 😍