Why ferrari were too fast for their own good in 2019
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- I've had a lot of comments asking to go over the 2020 Ferrari SF1000 and explain why they were as bad as they were that season. Well to understand why Ferrari was such a disaster in 2020, you first need to understand why they were so fast in 2019. Securing 3 back to back wins and 6 back to back polls, Ferrari was untouchable in the end of the 2019 Formula 1 season, but how exactly did they get so quick?
We touch on Ferrari's engine controversy, the FIA's response to the "cheating" allegations, and the fallout that followed. A lot of people have covered this one, but I wanted to give my spin on it. Was the 2019 Ferrari engine really illegal? Or was it just a clever bending of the rules, similar to what Mercedes did with DAS in 2020? Let's talk about it.
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For new fans context Ferrari went from 17KPH disadvantage to 27kph advantage in 2018 and than 42KPH advantage in Belgium while running bigger wings
If they was going to cheat / exploit loopholes, they should have done it in such a blatant way, it was so dumb.
@@OumuamuaOumuamuaexactly, they were far too unconcerned, but at the same time, it was not illegal to do, simply it was a loophole that nobody exploited. This is where Binotto comes in to play, as a team principle he may have been shit, but he is the Adrian Newey of engines. A motorical genius. He has been at the engine department from the mid 90s, he was a main brick in the wall that was the Ferrari V10 engine, he cemented his footprint to the scenery and brought Ferrari back to the leading engine role. Basically Honda and Renault along with Ford were the peak of F1 engines from about the late 60s to the mid 90s, but from the late 90s until about 2014, the Ferrari engines were the perfect whole package.
@@kovarikristof3754 Yes I know, I wish he stayed in the engine department instead of becoming a tp, he would probably still be in f1
they didn't have a such a big difference. Where is your source? Looks like you're a new fan as well with your limited knowledge.
Ferrari didn't even have a better engine in 2018, they just had a far more aero efficient car which produced less drag but less downforce.
This is like saying this years Redbull's top speed is 50kmph faster just because of their engine, and the number is not even true.
@@paperplane-db8qf
Uh no, your knowledge is limited, they did have that much difference
3:42 Ferrari were absolutely not using more than 100kg per race. That cannot be cheated, as fuel is measured before and after the race. They only cheated the flow rate (litres/hour). The total amount of fuel used was the same.
Correct that's what i thought as well. It's the fuel flow rate.
i just wanna ask, wouldnt altering the fuel flow rate actually be detrimental during a race? since they could only use as much fuel as they were allowed to carry in the tank, was the change to the fuel flow rate so miniscule that an extra kg or two compared to other teams a loss they were willing to the for the extra horsepower? i know teams dont fill the entire tank on raceday and would rather lift and coast than carry around unnecessary weight, but its interesting to know if ferrari were like "yeah actually we need all 100kg of fuel please"
@@iisquared77 they did fill it more than other teams. there was a discrepancy with Leclerc's car in one of the races. FIA checked the fuel level and the reported fuel level by Ferrari was lower than what actually was in the tank
It's safe to assume, because Ferrari was tricking the sensor to hide a fuel flow rate faster than alowed, this was done in conjunction with cheating how much fuel they were carrying or by burning oil to provide the extra fuel to cover for the faster fuel rate. Basically they massively cheated as evidenced by their car turning into a snail once red bull had blown their cover...
@@iisquared77I don't know if they used more total fuel than other teams, but even if the total fuel used is the same, there's lots of advantages in having extra power whenever you want, even if you have to compensate at other moment in the race.
You can save fuel at moments when there's no point pushing like when you need to look after the tires to delay a pit stop for strategic reasons and then use it later to overtake cars. You also save fuel when the safety car comes in.
In a hungarian podcast, an ex-Haas mechanic said that, Ferrari built the fuel system for max capacity allowed after the fuel flow sensor. You can bring fuel through the sensor all the time hence they could store the fuel in the system (after the sensor) so they could get more fuel into the engine when needed . After the FIA realized how it worked, simply reduced the capacity of the fuel system after the sensor.
From what I’m understanding they had a almost fuel tank placed after the fuel had been measured by the sensor?
@@jensonristevski Yes, like a buffer tank from what they could bring fuel into engine in a bigger flow.
To be clear, Ferrari weren't trying to carry more fuel - that's too obvious. They were trying to pump more more when on the straights for higher power; conserving fuel on low-mid spotted corners
Considering all the information we have, I personally believe it was not *technically* illegal by the letter of the rules, it was "illegal" by the spirit of the rules.
I think they explored a grey zone which after inspection was outlawed, but technically not illegal when they did it.
But who knows, honestly
“If you ain’t tryna cheat a little, you ain’t likely to win much”
~Richard Petty
The 2020 car wasn't unstable it was just too draggy, the car had been designed to create as much downforce as possible at the expense of more drag which would've been "canceled out" by their superior top speed, but by the time the engine was changed (no not just the second sensor slowed them down) they were asked to change multiple parts of the engine thus having less power. The SF1000 was actually one of the fastest cars in the corners, breaking zones and traction zones. But it's lack of power made the car terrible, then they started putting lower drag wings to gain top speed which killed their cornering. It would've been a mighty car if the engine had been "legal".
I don't necessarily believe that their engine was changed because it was "Illegal" I believe that whatever they were doing would've been discovered by plenty of teams and they avoided loopholes by sanctioning them specifically. If it had been some sort of flat out cheating they would've come out with all of the details, the restrained explanation as to what they did to their car leaves me to believe that they didn't want anyone else to know, in fear that another team might have found a "legal" way to do it.
It was unstable, just look at how many strange mistakes both drivers made. I believe Nico Rosberg reckoned that an unstable car was almost entirely at fault for Leclerc's Monza crash
@@yerriff8115 Yeah I guess it was unstable in some races, what I meant was that I don't think it was unstable by nature, the loss of the superior engine and an aggressive aero development of the car meant they had too much drag and not enough power meaning that they had to put different setups and wings that the car wasn't meant for, thus making it unstable.
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No annoying voices? You sure about that?
@@officialWWM yes, I'm tired of the cocky British accent most F1 channels have
@@stepladder3257 me too!
Crazy to think they have one of the best ICE packages today, on par with Honda/RBPT. They really should've kept Binotto, at least as a cto or something. Bro knows engines
I heard they have Wolf Zimmermann who is the best in the world when it comes to the ICE
Is he? When did Wolf join Ferrari?
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I think a lot of people also forget how much of a tractor the sf90 if they had a different pu they would have been nowhere
They were fairly competitive before belgium and after mexico.
It wasn’t able to beat the W10 consistently, but on occasion it was. Bahrain and Canada are prime examples.
Also, I think they would’ve beaten the Mercedes’ in Singapore because that track really suited the Ferrari.
@@hersencell6880 their race pace was always terrible, they were never the fastest car apart from Singapore during the races.
Then Vettel got pole in suzuka 🗿
2019 Monza is one of the most wonderful moments of my life as a sports fan. I don’t care how they did it.
Cool, then let everyone cheat.
Typical 3 years old fanboy.
Sooo cheating is ok? 👍
@@thegreatafrican3367not cheating this was much better era than useless 2023 slow cars how terrible it is Redbull always winning??? We want those engines back again
@@CicaeMeowredbull cheated with the budget cap in 2021 and merc cheated on 2013 with illegal private Pirelli tests but no one talks about it
It amazes me how Ferrari went from having a competitive package in 2017 & 2018 to being nowhere to be found from 2019-2021. Everyone knew something was up after the Summer Break in 2019?! There was no way Ferrari were that quick out of nowhere and were fighting for race wins when they were nowhere near being competitive prior to Spa, Monza, and Singapore.
they almost won in Bahrain, got pole and lead the whole of Canada. What are you talking about? Mercedes were just dominant because F1 changed the tyres to fix a problem only they had.
Someone should check all the bank transfers between Mercedes and Pirelli, like how they cheated together in 2013 in the illegal tyre test.
FIA surely made them lost huge amounts of power as result of their secret pact
After 2019 Ferrari built a car to take advantage of their engine, so that mf was draggy as hell but produced a shitload of downforce, which is detrimental to a car that makes less power than the rest of the field. They had the opposite issue of Williams.
I think it's not shitload downforce instead of tyre eaters... from turkey 2020 where the tarmac issue is, 2021 azerbaijan where leclerc losing just DRS threat from behind then 2022-23 now where they just nowhere...
The 2019 Ferrari was suited to low drag power Tracks like Bahrain, Canada, Austria, Spa, Monza. If you look at the 2019 Hungarian gp which is a high downforce track, the Ferraris were miles off the pace of the Mercedes and Verstappen in the Red Bull.
Absolutely not what Ferrari was being accused of! They were allegedly bypassing the fuel flow limit sensor. That is to say, they had a system where they would go over the mandated 100 kg/hr limit and in no way does it mean they were using more fuel than allowed. Flow limit and allowed fuel are two different things.
I see. Thanks for the info!
Exactly... They never change the fuel capacity...
RB asked for 3 clarifications, not just one. For some reason, aliasing the fuel slow sensor is the one that gets all the press, but technically the least plausible. I think the likeliest thing they were doing was burning oil on purpose, to add to the total fuel burn rate
What I always marvel at is the explanations of what Ferrari where doing. Especially since even the FIA who had the actual engines in their possession could not figure out what they were doing.
Ferrari were the only team running dual battery packs. People forget that this was part of the FIA investigation, and some engineers believed their advantage was purely electrical. Once the battery was fitted with additional sensors, their advantage stopped.
Haas and Alfa were supplied with a single larger battery.
Ferrari were the only team on the grid running 2 smaller battery packs…
@JakeM218 great. But once again no one outside ferrari knows what they were doing.
There's lots of misinformation about this from so called F1 "experts".
FIA could not find any proof that the Ferrari engine was illegal after 8 months of investigating. But they weren't also fully convinced that Ferrari's engine was legal.
So by the rules, unless a team is able to fully satisfy the FIA it is legal they need to remove it, which is what happened.
Ferrari had to revert back to an old spec engine weeks before pre-season testing and there was also an engine freeze that season.
This does not mean Ferrari cheated or their engine was illegal.
This one single article is better than anything all the F1 “experts” have produced because it actually has facts and numbers: “2019 F1 season: Ferrari’s straight-line speed”
"This does not mean Ferrari cheated or their engine was illegal." I mean it kind of does...
I still don’t understand the big deal behind the engine - most of the year, they were slower than Red Bull
@@alexpeak16 So cheating is okay if you don't win?
@@B__L FIA couldn't prove anything. Besides, it would be even more of an understandable big deal if they were fighting Merc for the title but they weren't even close.
so their car was illegal it just couldnt be proven ok gotcha
Really good analysis, and such an interesting topic, keep it up, love the content 💯
Other thing that people forget about the 2019 Ferrari is that those cars (just like the other Ferraris since) ate rubber like crazy and they dipped in pace nearing the end of the stints. That held them from getting more wins in 2019.
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Great series man!
I be liking your videos bro, thanks for the insight.
Ferrari had figured out the fuel flow regulator sensor had a blip in time. During that blip in recording fuel flow they took that time to have more fuel flow.
Great video bro!
Curiously, some engineers believe it was an electrical advantage and NOT a fuel advantage.
Ferrari were the only team at the time running dual battery packs (not even their customer teams had this).
The FIA covered both batteries in additional sensors at the same time the extra fuel sensor was fitted and their advantage stopped.
People seem to be fixed on the fuel rate, but this isn’t known to be true.
It’s also curious how this was dealt with differently to the oil burning that gave Mercedes their advantage in 2014. This was simply fixed with a technical directive to limit the oil use, and there were no sporting penalties for bending the rules in that way.
@windrose5988 Who says the were running more fuel per hour?
The FIA had the power unit for months and still couldn’t understand what advantage they had.
Lots of theories thrown about, but nothing known to be true.
I think the reason the FIA didn't make a stink about what Ferrari was doing because Ferrari stopped when they were told to.
They didn't force the FIA into a complex, long, and potentially very expensive and embarrassing legal case, they didn't freak out and start a media frenzy, they just stopped cheating when the technical directive came out, ate their humble pie, and took the L.
There wasn't really a *need* for further action because the team didn't do anything interesting until 2022, when the regs had entirely changed.
They spent basically 2.5 years in the midfield, fighting to even be in the points, and inadvertently freaked Mercedes out so much they built *the fastest F1 car ever* to compete.
Also the changes to the regs requiring a second sensor with encrypted data, and randomized polling intervals, essentially silver bulleted the problem.
I'd strongly suspect the "secret agreement" was
A: Stop fucking cheating.
B: Freeze engine development right then and there for the rest of the 2019 season and possibly some of 2020 as well.
C: Make Binotto get a haircut.
Obviously the FIA's demands were utterly deranged and Ferrari could only comply with A and B.
It's also why the 2020 car was a mess.
By the time they'dve been told to knock it off it was just before the US GP, which was in November, so the 2020 car would be at a pretty advanced stage of development, and they obviously didn't have time to change it to suit a gutless power unit.
If they'd been permitted to continue development of the 2019 engine for 2020 they'd at least be able to clawback some of the power loss, but they couldn't, they had a dog, and that, to me, indicates a lack of development. I'd point at Alfa and HAAS but they were just so slow for other reasons you can't really tell if it's engine related or not.
The reason Ferrari didn’t make a fuss about is because they knew it will get banned sooner or later. The reason FIA didn’t do anything more is because they would have to disqualify Ferrari from 2 seasons, which would be a far bigger scandal than it is.
So they decided to sweep it under the rug and hope people forgets about it, which is what happened.
Ferrari cheated and the good FIA told them to knock it off 😂
That's why Mercedes was doing secret tyre tests back in the days and FIA penalised them real bad: oh no wait, they didn't, they actually let Mercedes dominate for 7 years straight.
Poor Mercedes, they couldn't stand somebody else going a little faster than them 😂
You mean Christian Horner didn’t like other teams being faster and as usual he went bitched to the FIA about it when technically it wasn’t illegal.. just like Mercedes and the DAS System.. he bitched about that.. and it was he who got the FIA to freeze the PU’s so RB could develop theirs through Honda…
@@thekyuwaYou forgot the part where FIA backed Mercedes burning oil in the engines chambers to produce more power and it was perfectly fine and legal to do until Ferrari and co did it and then suddenly it was the work of the devil and had to be banned. Or when FIA collaborated directly with Mercedes to create DAS even though the rules strictly forbid any alterations to suspension and steering columns and structures of the car for DAS to be a thing. Or the time when FIA backed Mercedes domination and harassed Ferrari on their allegations of cheating but found absolutely nothing. Or how about when they gave Mercedes insider knowledge of the regs to ensure they came back to the sport in 2010 and allowed them to develop years before anyone else for the 2014 reg changes.
4:46 Correction: Ferrari basically had installed a dummy flow meter which the sensor used to take readings, the reading are taken fairly quickly. The real fuel flow meter connected to the fuel line allowed a little more fuel to bypass. It didn't somehow only send higher fuel flow when the "sensor wasn't sensing" lmao what do you think happens to an engine with sudden and recurring fluctuations in fuel flow?
I remember around that time they were also suspected of exploiting their twin-battery design to get more deployment than was permissible, as GPS tracking was showing crazy acceleration curves.
It looks like now Red Bull does the same. They didn't faster that much in the corners, and suddenly 1second advantage.
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Pretty sure Ferrari was going over the fuel flow rate not the fuel load. They would time their fuel pump to the exact time the FIA fuel flow rate detectors would stop because the detectors would measure in pulses or intervals leaving gaps in between, which Ferrari allegedly took advantage of.
Can u do a video abt the sf 23
Pls do a video about racing point 2020 car
Please, do a video about the McLaren's 2012 season's car.
Could you do the ferrari 1998 F300?
2019 - F1 engine
2020 - GP2 engine... GP2
Make that Video more popular!
@JonnyF1
According to Ecclestone and Auto, Motor Und Sport (AMUS), the FIA was forced to NOT tell why Ferrari got clipped because it would've destroyed the sport altogether. According to them and Motor Sport Magazine, Ecclestone brokered a deal in 2015 between Honda, Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari to let the non-German teams to use some of the tech the Germans were using, in the optics of a fairer fight and a better TV revenue from 2016 onwards.
When Ferrari got "investigated" because of RBR's stupid claim, which the FIA and Ecclestone proved to be false on all fronts, a problem arose: since most of Ferrari's performance was made on Mercedes's research, that would've meant that EVERY single Championship awarded to Mercedes up until that point was susceptibe of being taken away for "giving disrepute to the sport". But, since even Renault and Honda used that tech (although with a lessened effectiveness) it would've meant that ALL of the grid was technically illegal. It would've been a disaster, something that would've surely destroyed F1's appeal and FIA's credibility altogether, perhaps even causing the death of the "Pinnacle of Motorsport" itself.
So, another deal was brokered: Ferrari wouldn't use that tech anymore, it would help the FIA to identify and squash eventual grey zones in the rulebook when it came to Power Units and, to keep Ferrari's reputation, the deal would have been kept secret, with a nice monetary help from FIA.
Ferrari being faster in straight line in 2019: illegale
RB being 30 kmh faster then anyone in 2023: well newey Is a Genius,must be that
No
Mate, Ferrari advantage came exclusively on straights, their aero and chassis were subpar. On the other hand, the RB19 is perfect everywhere, it's more than obvious that it is about Newey and his team being the best in the business
@@sergioferrero46 It was and ironic comment dudes
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I remember monza 2019. It was awesome!
Imagine if they won the championships in 2019. Heads would’ve been rolling
There's really two limits at play. At the time the fuel limits were 100 kg for the whole race and an instantaneous fuel flow rate of 100kg/hr. It is believed this 100 kg/hr rate is what was was being violated. Redbull asked about a few different methods, but the one that made the most sense to me was the theory that ferrari had strategically placed their high voltage power lines next to the fuel flow sensor to cause interference in the signal. At the time ferrari was known to be using a dual battery system which no other team understood the advantage of. If this approach was correct, ferrari could charge one battery with the other and vice a versa to make sure they were always disrupting the fuel flow meter when they wanted to.
I really wish f1 had a rule where teams had to release the designs of cars over 5 years old or something because otherwise we will literally never know for certain these details.
They just found a loop hole and sadly we're penalised. Other teams find loopholes but it's OK!
Don't know why no one talks about the leap forward the SF1000 performed in '21, the best large nose car on the grid able to snatch 3rd place in Constructors from McLaren, by just designing a smaller gearbox.
I rooted for McLaren and hate all the holiness around the "prancing horse" but this can' t be ignored.
That reason would be Daniel Ricciardo...
Yes lets blame ferrari for doing a good job and not Mclaren for 1. Falling off a cliff and having a bad luck after monza 2. only one driver being usefull most of the time... literally just look at france 2021 and try to tell me ferrari did something illegal
That thumbnail tho, Number 2 on a Ferrari 🥺 Alternative universe where Mclaren didn't destroy Vandoorne's career.
Edit: nvm I see now that it's a mirrored picture
And the. Sebastian Vettel was hung out to dry with their ‘Look over here!’ trick.
I mean, everybody knew they were dumping more fuel into the engine than was allowed. But it's not Ferraris fault the FIA made a predictable sensor. Look at Red Bull in 2021 running the tires at a lower psi than was allowed because the checks only came at the beginning and end of the GP. Every team flirts with the rules, Mercedes have just recently said they intend to push the rules much harder than they have been the last two years to try and catch up.
i think the fia not revealing anything about this should be illegal.
It is more likely ferrari had a hidden reserve and they never stopped pumping fuel when off throttle. That would be a grey area not tricking the fuel sensor. It would also explain along with battery drain why the ferraris slowed dramatically at the end of long straights. It is also very probable that he fia hit them with a hard fuel limit as punishment.
I heard they got in trouble for this and there penalty for it was they and there partners had to use like 5 kl less of fuel every race till the 22 season and this is why they wernt competitive until then
yoo vettel is gonna explain us about his 2019 car engine
That Ferrari was superfast, and yet Max still won 3 races and finished ahead of both Ferrari drivers.
They only had this illegal package for a few races.
The flowrate wasn't sustainable throughout the entire race though. If it would had been they would had gone over 100kg of fuel. So while it definitely gave them a massive advantage in overtaking Max is too much of a beast to be affected by such things
Ferrari's upper management and strategy department are their biggest problem currently
If ricciardo had stayed red bell could’ve finished ahead of Ferrari in the WCC. Before Singapore the gap between them was only 44 points. Considering how gasly was underperforming, I reckon the driver lineup of Max and Daniel (or if they had albon from the start of 2019, he did better than gasly in the 2019 RB) would’ve taken red bull to 2nd in the WCC
My Drill Sergent used to say you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin and if you get caught cheatin you ain't tryin hard enough LOL!
Rb saw that and this year is like #sandbagging mates
I wish red bull did the same said nothing and we had two monster engines on the grid
And you did forget to mention the Engine oil they burned getting more horse out of the engine. The 100 kilo off full was never a problem they only bypassed the system when needed closing a gap or creating. one
Apologies for my ignorance but doesn't more fuel mean more weight? how could they be so fast if they were carrying extra fuel?
3:20 You are wrong. There is a limit of the amount of fuel they can use in a race of 100 kg (it is a bit more now), but that is not important here. Ferrari wasn't using more fuel during the race. The important point is that there is a limit to the instantaneous amount of fuel that can flow to the cylinders of 100 kg/hour. That is a completely different thing and that's the one Ferrari was apparently violating.
Seems like last year. After td 39 ferrari was hugely affected by it. From that point on, the team managed to never win a race
But the TD 39 was a secure rule... 😅😅
Sounds similar to how Red Bull are ridiculous on the straights right now which is why they're sandbagging. Although aerodynamically their car is ridiculous
Of course, Ferrari's engine cheat was different to Merc's DAS - fundamentally so. Merc showed the FIA what DAS was and double-checked it was legal, which it was until the rules were changed for the following season. On the other hand, Ferrari secretly tricked fuel flow sensors with the sole intention of breaking a regulation and burned more oil than a refinery to cheat more power. The fact this was dealt with in secret by the FIA tells us all we needed to know about their slam-dunk guilt. Poor comparison in an otherwise very good video...
Mercedes were burning oil for years before the Ferrari found a better way of doing it.
Apparently it was just storing extra fuel in the fuel system after the sensor so they could have a consistent flow rate, while having a boost saved up.
It seems that, rather than making their trick known to public and getting that trick banned soon or later (like DAS). Ferrari decided to just be obedient to FIA and stopped doing that. while perfecting that trick without anyone being suspicious about it anymore at the same time
The only reason DAS was banned was because the FIA feared this would lead to a steering wheel arms race between teams and increase costs which were already sky high at the time. It wasn't even that significant of an advantage.
Hey we have the same calendar
it was Silverstone 2018 that they suddenly gained a massive amount of speed out of no where & in 2019 they were maximising their 'cheating'. But at the end of the day they were doing all this & still got smashed by Mercedes 😂
Dude, your mic will sound better if you talk into the front of it instead of the back 😂
fyi its not "sneaky suspicion" its "sneaking suspicion"
The answer is yes, yes they where.
Surely adding more fuel to the car would make you slower because it would make the car heavier?
Absolutely ridiculous that their punishment wasn’t more severe and public. They should have been punished and fined in line with McLaren (spy-gate)
Do a video about the greatest F1 car in history to never win, the might fast McLaren MP4-20
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Ferrari needs a serious overhaul to be competitive again. They've shown that they can make a competitive car but the team is wholly ill-equiped to handle that car. They need to send everyone to HAAS or Alfa Romeo and poach some people that know wjat they're doing.
Yeah, because "poaching some people that know what they're doing" is a tactic that has worked fantastically well for Ferrari in the past 15 years... Meanwhile, the WEC programme, which is built on talent they developed straight out of universities or "stole" from subsidiaries, has won the Le Mans 24h on the first attempt.
DAS is not illegal, it's innovation
And then came the TD39...
2019 was also a dark year for Ferrari as they cheated like Redbull but couldnt do as a good job to fend off that Hamilton guy
I don't know what happened to Ferrari but they haven't been the same since 2019 ever since then they've been stuck in nose dive of failure after failure they can't seem to get anything right.
everyone claims that ferrari was cheating when there is no conclusive evidence. it's not like their car was super slow. they could have won in bahrain were it not for leclerc's engine cuts, won in canada if vettel actually stayed on track, and won in austria if verstappen didn't shove leclerc off track. the fia never released the findings, they "reached a settlement" which could be nothing but a slap on the wrist after all... heck, maybe it wasn't even the fuel flow in the first place. perhaps the gains were made elsewhere and we wouldn't ever know as those findings have been kept confidential.
another note to make is that a track like singapore is probably one of the least power demanding tracks on the calendar. historically, teams like red bull and ferrari in the past have been rather more competitive on this track against mercedes who still held a huge power unit advantage. i do have a question for those believing in the fuel flow myth. since ferrari supposedly bypassed that 100kg/H fuel flow, this means that they were burning fuel at a higher rate and wouldn't this been easily reflected by the fia checking fuel levels before and after the race? in order to avoid being detected, they'd have to save fuel elsewhere on track would they not? wouldn't that mostly undermine the benefits of bypassing a fuel flow?
Funny enough red bull the very team who accused Ferrari of cheating not even two years later cheated themselves by over spending on the budget to make their car faster than the rest of the grid.
Redbull asked the FIA if they could do what they suspected Ferrari of doing, the FIA obviously said no that illegal as shit so red bull said funny you say that, this is what Ferrari are doing. FIA then made regulation changes to specifically stop it and the rest is history
Ferrari were too fast for their own good sounds like a less confusing title to read
Hmm, I think you’re right. Changed
@@jonnyf1 POG. Love the content 👍 You explain things very well for goons like me
Bruh redbull like drama
But they were "almost" fast as Mercedes, yet they were off the hook
Always hated how people bashed Ferrari for exploiting a loophole when the only won 3 races in 2019 whilst redbull went over the budget cap and definitely cheated and won a whole drivers championship smh
Ferrari so bad even after cheating only won 3 races. Which verstappen won alone 3 in 2019. And rb just went a bit over the cost cap and got a powerful car lol
Just accept it verstappen is better
@@arnabde5766 this is not about max being better Is about people hypocrisy to cry about Ferrari cheating in 2019 when they only won 3 races and got penalised for that for the next two years in 2020 and 2021 whilst redbull cheated and is dominating right now
@@windrose5988 that is bullshit if Ferrari stopped cheating they would have stopped being so fast in the straight but still would have been the second fastest team in the speed track behind Mercedes Ferrari cheated on the second half of the season from Belgium onward, so if fia didn’t penalised Ferrari then they would have still been P2 in 2020 instead Ferrari got massively penalised and had to recover that engine deficit for the next two years just look at 2020 if u think Ferrari didn’t get penalised when they finished 6th constructors championship ur delusional
And they gave it a really bad livery too
Ferrari engine was studied for months by the FIA and they never found anything illegal. If Ferrari was using a grey area (and I strongly believe it) it as so clever to outsmart the controller.
Because they are not a teame
Dominicalli was Ferrari team principal. Dominicalli becomes F1 president. Ferrari cheats. Dominicalli sweeps it under the carpet and the FIA Keep it private.
Considering Mercedes had years of advantage in engine development it seems fair😂 they didn't win anyways
It's only ilegal if you can prove... otherwise 🎉
Now RB and Max dominate like there’s no tomorrow and suddenly FIA is fine with it
If other teams are suspicious of something that RB is doing to increase performance, then they would've come forward to the FIA, just like RB did with Ferrari, which is clearly explained in this video. Are you stupid?
Apart from going overbudget a little bit. Looks like RBR simply nailed the concept and having the engine that is just as good
Besides, once RBR found their once-in-a-lifetime talent, they were usually become unstoppable. That's just how it is
So you want the FIA to do something to a legal car just because you don't like them winning?
No it wasn't illegal
If Ferrari was illegal, then Redbull now also? Seems they have huge top speed advantages. Don't forget FIA didn't found anything so basically they still didn't know what was it.They just made a agreement that stop it with the 2nd fuel sensor. Redbull reported Ferrari back in 2019.I wonder what they asked for in return...
Makes you wonder how much is red bull cheating or what are they doing illegal to there car
It's like Mercedes, minus the lobbying
boowoo
F1 is more fun when Ferrari is cheating and winning 😂
Mate they were cheating
Why are you not talking about Red bull. They did something illegal last year and still have an incredible lead breaking many records.
When Red Bull "cheats" they get booed on. But when Ferrari "cheats" people say that they are glad they did it or else the 2019 season will be boring. Love the double standards in F1.
Unfortunately, when it comes to Red Bull, it seems that there are double standards no matter what, just because it is a team owned by an energy drink company and being successful
What ferrari did with their fuel flow is nowhere near comparable to das, ferrari was illegal das wasn't. Das would have been on the grid in 2019 and the fia knew it about as Mercedes presented it to them but was deemed illegal because of how it was operated by a movable device rather than the revised 2020 version of using the steering wheel.
Ferrari looked at the 1995 Toyota WRC team and copied their project idea but it worse, huh? lol
And before people crucify me, I get that the technologies used were different, but the idea of bypassing or fooling mandatory power-restriction equipment to get a power advantage remains the same.