Watches: Does Size Matter? (Diameter, Proportion, Function)

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • A Discussion around watches and their sizes. Over the last century we've seen how the size of the watch has evolved. What began as a simple instrument, soon became more complex, built for extreme environments and different applications. As we have become more accustomed to the increase in watch sizes the question becomes: Does their size matter?
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  • @ID-Guy
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  • @Mark..P
    @Mark..P 3 года назад +30

    Does size matter or is it more about proportion. For the first time my wife has engaged in a watch debate, at least I think she was talking about watches 🤔😂 Great video 👏

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +3

      I want to make this the highlighted comment. Brilliant Mark ;)

    • @reedgrabowski8314
      @reedgrabowski8314 3 года назад +2

      Well, have her join the conversation. Would appreciate reading her perspective.

    • @Mark..P
      @Mark..P 3 года назад +3

      @@reedgrabowski8314 😂 I seriously don’t think you want to hear what she thinks Reed

    • @reedgrabowski8314
      @reedgrabowski8314 3 года назад +1

      @@Mark..P Nor would you want to hear from my wife about my over obsession with horology.

    • @thepariswatchmaitresse5423
      @thepariswatchmaitresse5423 3 года назад +2

      Mark what did Hannah say on subject or had this been classified or redacted at this point in the best interest of the public⁉️

  • @chazfromtheburg
    @chazfromtheburg 3 года назад +6

    The longer I’ve been in this hobby, the smaller my watches have become. 44mm was my starting point several years ago, even my “dress watch” was 42mm. I have a larger wrist, and larger watches were more popular. But during the last couple of years, the watches that I’m drawn to are smaller, with more attention to detail. For me, the little details are what attract me. The overall size of the watch is secondary. Another great video, my friend! 👊

  • @67NewEngland
    @67NewEngland 2 года назад +1

    I have a 7.3” wrist and still tend to like the size of a smaller 36-38mm dress/casual watch. There’s something to appreciate in a less bold announcement of a nice efficiently sized watch.

  • @Kbo513
    @Kbo513 3 года назад +19

    I’ve accepted the fact that I have small wrists and anything more than 40mm for just looks ridiculous on my wrist. So I’m enjoying my BB58, new Explorer 36 (so much debate this year on the resize) and a BLNR.
    Also my small wrist size helps me not to consider all the watches that catches my attention - one great benefit for my wallet 😄

    • @therealkiasu
      @therealkiasu 3 года назад +1

      me too. I can't wear anything more than 40mm too.

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville 3 года назад +3

      I used to think that but there are some watches that are over 40mm that with the short lug to log or a wide bezel help make them wear smaller. Don't limit yourself due to case size, typically it's not the best indicator of how it will wear and you should always try it on first. Not good advice for your wallet I'm afraid :)

    • @walkerb1734
      @walkerb1734 3 года назад +4

      Agree! The BB58 is a PERFECT watch for a smaller wrist. I love mine!

    • @chriszivoder2650
      @chriszivoder2650 3 года назад +1

      Same 40mm max for me, lug to lug about 48mm max. But even with that in mind, I agree that there are some watches that are oversized and look cheap.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      There are a handful of exceptions out there that can be surprising for a lot of us (like Seiko and their Turtle cases) but for a lot of us I think we all feel the same that there is a sweetspot (40 is definitely mine too) BUT lug to lug will blow you away. If you can find watches out there that an L2L around 47 - 48mm's, the world is your oyster! Also with you on the Exp36 (would love to get my hands on one someday) Thank you for this Karlo!

  • @MaherMosly
    @MaherMosly Год назад

    Wow, you're exceptional at expressing your thoughts! I'm here after the release of BB 54, and it seems like the Tudor designers took inspiration from your analysis. Keep up the great work!

  • @brandonnickerson8934
    @brandonnickerson8934 3 года назад +3

    8.75" and watches are 40-44mm.
    I know most think the 6 dig Sub looks small on me, I love it. It slides under sleeves easily, the thinner bracelet is something I'm not used to, wearing Seikos and Tissots. I don't ding it on stuff. The super case gives it presence.
    My heart loves preceramic, but they are just too small for my wrist.
    The one thing I have learned is crystal diameter plays a huge role. The previous 6 dig Sub is a perfect example, having a smaller crystal with the larger bezel. I like it. Easy enough for me to read.
    I have yet to try it on, but the Sea Dweller just looks too thick for me. And case thickness is one of the most important dimensions. Never thought that until the last few years. Some of those Tudors and Grand Seikos are too thick imo.

    • @chriszivoder2650
      @chriszivoder2650 3 года назад +3

      That's interesting. I have a tad over 6.5" wrist and I use to think 40mm was ok because it was a diver and the dial is smaller but since buying some 38 and 39mm watches, wow they look much better and also wear better. I actually have a 34mm thin auto by Oris and I really love that too.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      So interesting to read Brandon and thank you! Take it from me, a guy with a measly 7" wrist on a very good week after working out, the Sea Dwellers need to be experienced! Especially the 43mm. I find it great to know that many are still getting a kick from those "traditional" 40mm sizes. And you're right, stealth, not bumping it on things all plays a role in that too!

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      @@chriszivoder2650 Similar wrist size to me then. I've found that the true 40's fit amazingly well, where the 39,85's (or whatever they are) can look a bit small at times. But then Lugs are the sweetspot. My 39mm Omega with a 49mm lug length feels superb (and wears more like a 40) The dynamics of watch sizes...

    • @brandonnickerson8934
      @brandonnickerson8934 3 года назад +1

      Guys, I wish I could pull off a 34mm.
      Pros/cons with certain designs. My biggest watch, the black lunar pilot, fits me perfectly. Jlc reversos, tanks, not so much.
      The 40 is like a 34 at heart. 🙂

    • @chriszivoder2650
      @chriszivoder2650 3 года назад +1

      @@brandonnickerson8934 that's ok, there are many watch designs I love but are far too big for me. But I'm ok with that, I get the thrill from the search of the right size watch that looks great.

  • @Profanity92
    @Profanity92 3 года назад +6

    My watches measure from 34-42mm and they all fit my 18cm wrist, but I feel my 34mm (vintage Tissot Visodate) «centers» better and feel more thought out because of the greater impact of the strap.
    Its an everchanging topic, I wonder what trends the future holds, my bet is the return of the smaller sizes.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      Nicely said Profanity. It's crazy to me how a 35mm, 39, 40 and 44 can wear so well on the wrist just because of how well they were thought through. Something tells me that we're in a place now where sizes are starting to come back down again. More manageable for all of us and again allowing us to wear them instead of them wearing us ;)

    • @SgtHooch
      @SgtHooch 3 года назад +1

      Agree. I think the big watches of the mid-2000s have been trending downward (slowly) over the past few years.

  • @bjornapyro
    @bjornapyro 3 года назад +1

    You nailed it. This ongoing debate is tired.

  • @shaverray4462
    @shaverray4462 3 года назад +1

    I mainly collect vintage, so don’t have any hang ups about smaller watches. What I have noted is that lug to lug matters more to me than case diameter. Case shape also makes a difference, with cushion and square cases frequently looking considerably larger on the wrist than a round watch of the same dimensions. To each their own.

  • @rouge-gsd3061
    @rouge-gsd3061 3 года назад +8

    I somewhat agree,the whole diameter debate misses one key part; the lug to lug measurement can change how a watch feels completely. As an example look at the 43.5mm Oris aquis it wears much smaller than the case size would suggest. Then look at a panerai submersible with a similar 42mm case but due to its shape along with crown guard makes it wear much bigger in the process.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      It was one part I missed (the heat in the room when I was recording was insane) but you're absolutely right. L2L is probably the most important component in the whole process of deciding if the watch will work or not. Great point Rouge and thank you!

    • @Minniemoo2025
      @Minniemoo2025 3 года назад +1

      Totally agree. After making a mistake on a Seiko Sumo I now appreciate how important lug to lug is to how a watch wears on my 7 inch wrist. If it’s over 49mm L2L then I move on. The Sumo was 52mm L2L. Funny thing is I didn’t mind the 45mm case width. Luckily I managed to sell it on.

  • @SORA44600
    @SORA44600 3 года назад +12

    dial diameter and lug to lug matter more than case size

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      Lug to lug is the real clincher. It's amazing how well something like a 44mm wears with a 48mm lug length. Great point Sorrra and thank you!

    • @SJCB27
      @SJCB27 3 года назад

      IDGuy As a puny 7" wrist guy, I can bear that out: 43.5mm PO with a 49mm L2L looks fine but 44mm SMP with a 52mm L2L makes me look like a lower league football manager!

    • @vmarsch
      @vmarsch 3 года назад

      I strongly agree with this statement. To me, anything under 29mm is too small for a dial.

  • @karl_m3013
    @karl_m3013 3 года назад +2

    I was surprised you did not talk about thickness and how impacts the look of the watch on the wrist. I have a 43 mm with a 37 mm dial, as it has a very thin bezel, and it is quite thin being quartz. It does not look overly big on my wrist. I also have a 44 mm Autavia homage that has a 32 mm dial and is quite thick and it looks huge on my wrist. After taking pictures of all my watches on my wrist in various positions, I came to the conclusion that small is better for me. The biggest shock was that my 1980 Seiko at 34 mm looked really good on my wrist. Now, I am not going down to tiny Cartier tank that Jack Kennedy wore....my goodness it was small. Must be like 27 mm.

  • @vincent67239
    @vincent67239 3 года назад +3

    I’m starting to believe that life is too short to limit oneself from wearing certain watches simply because one’s wrist size-something that is, for the most part, genetic-is “too big” or “too small”. Flexibility and a small, healthy amount of disregard for others’ opinions can do wonders for the enjoyment and appreciation of watchmaking and horology as a whole. My collection spans from 33mm (vintage Omega) to 44mm (DSSD JC2). Once I’ve allowed myself the flexibility, I found myself to more freely focus on what I enjoy in watches instead of how others perceive me.

  • @Eric_Nielsen
    @Eric_Nielsen 3 года назад

    Very well said. When I started collecting in 2016, you had really 3 choices of 40mm diver or GMT: 1. Rolex, 2. TAG, and 3. Parnis.

  • @SgtHooch
    @SgtHooch 3 года назад

    I only began watch collecting a couple of years ago. Prior to that I wore one watch for nearly 13 years. I did not know about proportion or style or fashion faux pas. For example, I still think James Bond wearing a dive watch is appropriate. But, I've learned by reading things online and seeing watch reviews, that it is actually wrong.
    Admittedly, I have small wrists (but muscular forearms) and did not know my first dive watch (44mm) watch is actually too big. I still think it looks okay and love it. But, after watching hours & hours of YT reviews, realize 36mm - 40mm is probably best for me.
    In the end, I agreed with you that it is up to the wearer. Great video, young man.

  • @manuelnegrete2168
    @manuelnegrete2168 2 года назад

    Hello, what a thoughtful video. I found the Longines big eye out of all the samples you showed to be the most perfect dial layout. How interesting that at the same time the subdials are out of proportion. I believe that in a few years the big eyes price will go through the roof.....

  • @anthonystevens8683
    @anthonystevens8683 3 года назад +3

    I could not agree more IDGuy. The size has to fit with the application and cannot necessarily be pigeon holed into a particular style or sub category of that style. I agree it is increasingly difficult to see where the sports and dress watches start and end, there will be an overlap surely, maybe Spress watches I dunno. The case size is only one part of the equation, A diver watch with bezel functions would result in a thick bezel with the dial occupying a smaller area of the top of the watch so it would make sense for it to have a larger overall diameter case so the time can be read as easy as say a watch with a very thin bezel. Ignoring the case diameter for a moment there seems to be increasing focus on the lug to lug or wingspan dimension. This often causes opposing comments in watch reviews, personally I think this would be more useful to include a lug drop measurement although a common view from a datum would be needed for this. A case may have a long wingspan but will fit smaller wrists if the lugs drop from the case to the wrist more. A wingspan of the same with horizontal lugs (no drop) would be more for the larger wrist.

    • @chriszivoder2650
      @chriszivoder2650 3 года назад +1

      Yep the curve downwards of the lugs is also critical, also not everyone's wrist are the same shape but we use the standard measurement of wrist diameter as we can all relate to that far easier. I would go further and say most watch manufacturers lack in providing comprehensive dimensions but at the same time, they don't want to confuse the customer.

    • @anthonystevens8683
      @anthonystevens8683 3 года назад +1

      @@chriszivoder2650 I completely agree. Ultimately if possible it's best to see the watch in the flesh and try it on but I guess although that's not always a possibility.

  • @blasien1
    @blasien1 3 года назад +14

    After many years and much experimentation, I find the DIAL diameter is the critical dimension for the "correct" appearance to my eye. Not the case diameter. For me anyway the case protruding past the dial is like the frame of a picture. If the dial size is right for me, the "frame" of the dial (case) fades into the background to be ignored.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +3

      I like this approach Michael! Maybe it's the pedantic designer in me that prefers to see the whole package done to "scale" but I understand what you mean. Nothing beats a great dial with appropriate hand sizes, marginal text ;)

    • @pedromanuellopez142
      @pedromanuellopez142 3 года назад +1

      I agree. I own a Heuer Carrera re-edition (36), an Omega Aqua Terra (39), and a Sinn U2 (44). Ironically, the Sinn''s dial is pretty much the same size as the Heuer's. Both look perfectly proportional and at first glance, the Heuer looks like 39mm watch because of the white ring around the dial.

  • @underachievingwatchcollect1878
    @underachievingwatchcollect1878 3 года назад +5

    My friend wears 55mm Invicta watches and loves them-I support him (begrudgingly 🤨)!
    I have a 50 something mm Casio Frogman soo………..

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      And I've just started getting into the 44mm category... oh dear hahaha!

    • @thepariswatchmaitresse5423
      @thepariswatchmaitresse5423 3 года назад +2

      Agree with you 💯👍❤️✊🥰🤜 everyone should wear what they like & what makes them feel good about themselves even if that is a 36mm on a larger males wrist 😏

    • @SgtHooch
      @SgtHooch 3 года назад +1

      55mm? Nice! My buddy also likes watches above 48mm. He's tall (6'2") but has slim wrists. It doesn't seem to bother him at all and he's happy with his Super-Size collection.

  • @ChristianNeudorfer
    @ChristianNeudorfer 3 года назад +1

    Great video (again)! :) I don't really care so much about the case diameter. The most important thing for me is to try it on your own wrist. But putting that aside, I look more for the lug to lug size. I like my Smithts Everst PRS-25 (36mm) as much as my Sinn 104 (41mm) but the sweet spot for me is the Tudor BB58 which I got a few months ago.

  • @jasonpark5692
    @jasonpark5692 7 месяцев назад

    I only bought 44 and 43mm watches.
    Recently I started wearing a 40mm watch, not for size but because I really liked the watch.
    Once I adjusted to the smaller size, I listed all my other watches on ebay.

  • @craig2100
    @craig2100 3 года назад +2

    Great video and topic

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад

      Always a pleasure Craig and thank you sir!

  • @twelvecrows3596
    @twelvecrows3596 3 года назад +4

    For me, I have now started to gravitate to 39mm and smaller- even though I have 19cm wrists. The largest watch I currently have in my collection is 42mm

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      Interesting to see how these slimmer sizes prevail! I feel like these will be more and more popular in years to come too (seems like the trends are going that way as well) Thanks for this PRC

  • @thetaingsto
    @thetaingsto 3 года назад

    I remember the day I came across Panerai watches. I wasn't into watches that much, but I always had a pet peeve for extraordinary looking watches, and Panerai watches fell into that category. A study colleague came to the university one day wearing one. I was amazed at the first glance, but heart broken on the second look. It was just too big haha That's the absolute dealbreaker for me, I wish they were sized smaller, 40-42mm. The same goes for plenty of Breitling Chronographs and the fifty fathom. This is the biggest 'what if..' for me.
    As always, great video & great content!

  • @aussieexpat
    @aussieexpat 3 года назад

    Proportions are so much of the impression from a watch. When I first saw my speedmaster I was relieved that it looks much smaller than the 42mm implied by the case size.
    Of course that's achieved with the Proportions of the dial, bezel and the new shorter effective lug width.

  • @bozartg
    @bozartg 3 года назад +1

    I firmly believe that your wrist size has almost everything to do with appropriate proportions. My 7.5" wrist can accommodate 35-44mm watches. After many years of trying to find what I like, what's appropriate, etc. I find 40mm is almost perfect. I just bought a BB58 and find it's nearly perfect as is my sub and my explorer 1 are close in size. I'm migrating away from most 42-44+ watches. I still buy the darn things as I'm always enamored with certain styles and brands but unless one has a larger wrist than mine I find them heavy, and sometimes just out of proportion. Ultimately, I think case size is just subjective. Many with a smaller wrist than I have a taste for huge watches and see nothing wrong in those proportions.

  • @jimlittle5769
    @jimlittle5769 3 года назад +2

    Lug to Lug and thickness matter to me the most.

  • @theenavybluemonster
    @theenavybluemonster 3 года назад

    Lug to lug is more important. That’s why I think the measurement across your wrist is more important to know than the diameter. This is because some people have smaller diameter wrists but flat so they have more real estate to park bigger watches. On the flip side, some people have larger diameter wrists but round so there’s less real estate for larger lug to lug.
    And then case sides play a large part too for fit. For instance, the Seiko sumo has a 45 mm diameter case but the sides are curved and sit well on top of lots of wrists. On the flip side, the Tudor BB gmt is a 41mm with slab sides and wears really big and not friendly for lots of wrists from what I’ve heard.

  • @blueshirtbuddah1665
    @blueshirtbuddah1665 3 года назад

    Another outstanding video IDGuy! The lug to lug distance more so than the case diameter, is a truer measurement on how a watch is going to wear. In the end it’s all just personal preference.

  • @lordparmar6079
    @lordparmar6079 3 года назад

    Fantastic video and content. I agree with many points made here and think the proportion and scale of the watch is what matters the most.

  • @reedgrabowski8314
    @reedgrabowski8314 3 года назад +3

    Another thoughtful, well articulated, and well produced video. The more I watch your releases, the more I learn. Keep up the OUTSTANDING presentations.
    Size matters in the eye of the beholder. Case diameter for me is a factor. However, lug-to-lug distance is the make or break point for me. Has to be less than 48mm lug-to-lug including end-link center link. So, I am quite happy with 33 to 39 mm case diameter watches, so long as they meet my lug-to-lug standard. And, as you so aptly note, dial design and the designer's use of space on the dial is crucial to the watch aesthetic.
    Luckily, I still search an yearn for my perfectly sized and designed watch.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      Thank you as always Reed! Funny, but I'm getting quick a kick out a 44mm Seiko Turtle and with a L2L of 47mm, it's amazing. Lugs are the real clinchers. The word "proportions" just isn't factored in as well as we'd like with lots of pieces today (sadly) BUT we're seeing a turnaround too! Hope you're well, sir!

    • @reedgrabowski8314
      @reedgrabowski8314 3 года назад

      @@ID-Guy I am doing well, as I am still able to telework. Enjoy sporting the Seiko Turtle!

  • @rickfanning5647
    @rickfanning5647 3 года назад

    I own watches in different sizes. I enjoy the variety. One can get too caught up in what one “must” and “cannot” wear. Just my $0.02.
    As always, the video was well put together and thought provoking. I really enjoyed it.

  • @adambieber
    @adambieber 3 года назад +6

    I feel like larger watches look cheap. My sweet spot is 40mm. I'm personally a fan of the 5 digit subs. Also love the BB58.

    • @walkerb1734
      @walkerb1734 3 года назад +2

      Agree! The BB58 is damn near perfect!!

    • @chriszivoder2650
      @chriszivoder2650 3 года назад +1

      Yep agree completely, the BB58 is perfect. The amount of times I see a comment about the size being too small when their wrist is between 6.5 to 7 inches is common place. For those with smaller wrists including me, you need to accept that alot of watches will not wear well on the wrist and choose more wisely.

    • @markrichards3720
      @markrichards3720 3 года назад +1

      Lol yeah a gruebel forsey looks cheap

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville 3 года назад +6

    I'm here for the double-entendres ;) oh and IDGuy!
    My take: buy what you like wear what you like but on the same token a dress watch should not be 42mm. We have traditions to uphold, geez!

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад

      I was so close to throwing a few out there but then thought "wouldn't it be too easy?" Damn right we have traditions to uphold! ;)

    • @thepariswatchmaitresse5423
      @thepariswatchmaitresse5423 3 года назад

      I think 💭 it all comes down to personal preference at the end of the day 👍🥰✊❤️🤜

  • @henrywest7217
    @henrywest7217 3 года назад +1

    Agree

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      Thank you as always Henry! I'm glad you enjoyed the clip

  • @mudgutsiv
    @mudgutsiv 3 года назад

    Gone full circle, my 21st watch was a Seiko Sports 100 Quartz 7546-6040. After many other "Big" watches on the way I've just got a Seiko Solar Quartz SNE573 of almost identical proportions (D.38.5, L 46.5 H 10.6)

  • @timdale9123
    @timdale9123 3 года назад

    Yep.
    Found myself wanting a watch for the first time in my life a couple of years ago, and have to agree with pretty much everything you argued.
    Didn’t have much of a clue what it was I was after but, I thought to mesel, “I’ll know it when I see it”.
    Saw some lovely stuff but, after I’d measured the 180mm wrist that was to carry them, didn’t think the 1.618 could possibly let me get away with anything over 38mm.
    I was wrong.
    42 looks heavy on me, but as a functional object it can suit.
    44, whatever the style, makes MY forearm look like it should be hanging off a blinged-up pimp or a three-foot cage-fighter.
    Great vid.

  • @gelmibson883
    @gelmibson883 3 года назад +3

    Woo!

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      Great to see you Gel!

  • @georgehave
    @georgehave 3 года назад +2

    Fodder for our minds.
    Vitruvius, his book is about architecture. Yet it is applicable to watches.
    Symmetry, arrangement, proportions, beauty, all combine to create watch.
    Those points are the difference between a great watch and a flop.
    The last factor is personal choice, which sometimes leaves us scratching our heads.
    😉😏

  • @AM-qk5qg
    @AM-qk5qg 3 года назад

    We need to shift away of just the case size and also include lug to lug. Two watches with same case size but different lug to lug wear completely different. Similarly, we need to shift away from wrist circumference and go for the more relevant top wrist width, which is where the watch sits. I do not understand why the industry insists on the other two sizes.

  • @stevefox8605
    @stevefox8605 3 года назад

    For me, it's not so much case diameter but dial diameter that matters! Sold my Alpinist because it felt too small (shame, lovely otherwise)... For me bezel less (as in non rotating) between 39-40mm, and with a dive style bezel no smaller than 42..combination of 7.5" wrist and aging eyesight - wouldn't have a dress watch, so legibility, accuracy and robustness are far more important to me than sophistication or finish - daily wear is an Aquis 43.5 and will get a Railmaster (40mm) before winter.
    Interesting topic, we're all different so I'm sure there will be much variety in the comments section!
    Good video thank you 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @voltarengulsen2628
    @voltarengulsen2628 3 года назад

    Bro, your vidoes are on the top!

  • @blethook
    @blethook 3 года назад

    It's also a function of what you are used to, IMO. The smallest diameter watch in my collection is the Rolex 34-mm OP, and the largest is the Seiko 45-mm SLA033. If I've been wearing the 34-mm OP for a few weeks, and then switch over to the SLA033, it'll take me some time to adjust to the larger size of the SLA033. The larger size of the SLA033 will feel "out of place" for a while, before I get used to it.

  • @tippykaffu4047
    @tippykaffu4047 3 года назад

    Small are generally more charming but there is something about a handful of bigger watches like IWC Big pilot or Breguet Tradition are attractive.(Though my examples were originally made to be regular pocket watch sized watches.)

  • @johnseeger9083
    @johnseeger9083 3 года назад

    Excellent video designed to make us all consider more than just the size of a watch. I own vintage watches that are all sub-39mm and I own a few practical quartz watches for field work. It is hard for me to decide whether I like the vintage watches because of style and their size or if the size is irrelevant.
    For certain, a field watch that is so large it catches on rucksack straps, ropes and and other kit is not practical even if it is bombproof.
    There is a sweet spot only for the owner and the use the owner puts to the watch.

  • @mr_watchaddict3146
    @mr_watchaddict3146 3 года назад

    Great vid as always, and a topical case in point. My 36mm Explorer is better proportioned as a design, but the 39mm Explorer is a better fit. In other words, proportion is king, so long as the fit fits! 😉

  • @vizuz
    @vizuz 3 года назад +7

    Lol it’s kind of ridiculous the word “depression” has to be bleeped out don’t you think ?

    • @William_Saint-Agne
      @William_Saint-Agne 3 года назад +3

      @IDGuy, blink twice if you need help ! RUclips and it's shenanigans...

    • @edo7052
      @edo7052 3 года назад +4

      RUclips doesn’t like the word ‘depression’ 🤔 Didn’t know that! How bizarre, and sad

    • @William_Saint-Agne
      @William_Saint-Agne 3 года назад +4

      @@edo7052 Any video about mental health, depression or suicide is automatically demonetised. As if advertisers don’t want to put ads between TV programs mentioning this topic, let alone programs entirely revolving around those topics.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      I wish it wasn't the case Joey, but before the video is even published, it's fully processed (even transcribing every word that's said into text) and picking up a word like "depression" the algorithms do strange, strange things

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      @@edo7052 It's okay if what you're discussing is the topic revolving "depression" but using it as a "buzzword" can trigger all sorts. As it is a lot of channel lose their opportunity monetise just because they used "inappropriate" words

  • @blainecole5452
    @blainecole5452 3 года назад

    Cheers for a very effective presentation. What I sometimes find irksome is the proportion between case and movement diameter. A 42mm case housing a 26mm movement in an exhibition case back; ghastly.

  • @jameshoward9700
    @jameshoward9700 3 года назад

    Absolutely. Commercial Rolex/Germans wear big, artful Seiko/Omega wear small! Design language, innit (case facets). Also many watches are designed to pop and look 'right' on a screen or window display, not your wrist. And most men easily succumb to the admiring salesperson's "it doesn't look too big on YOUR wrist..!" For me, only divers and chronos over 39; ALWAYS try watches on. This way you learn to love both 36 Explorers and 52 Tunas! Remember: whole body scale and style are as important as wrist size!

  • @reedgrabowski8314
    @reedgrabowski8314 3 года назад +1

    By the way, what is the Longines Reference Model at 1:31 to 1:39?

  • @MrAbborre1
    @MrAbborre1 3 года назад

    Lug to lug and bracelets makes the biggest impact for me. For example a Hamilton khaki 42mm is to big for me but I can wear the man on the moon Speedmaster. Also in my opinion a bracelet makes a watch wear smaller than a strap.

  • @russell996
    @russell996 3 года назад

    Great take on an age old debate 👍

  • @derosa1989
    @derosa1989 3 года назад +1

    If you look at a lot of watches on-line, they're probably 8cm or even larger on your screen, 2x or 3x their actual size. A 36mm sport watch in real life suddenly looks very small.

  • @brianmsahin
    @brianmsahin 3 года назад

    I have an 8" wrist, my wife 5.2" . She wears a 34mm (actually my vintage Avia Swiss watch, as it looks like a button on my wrist), also a 36mm Explorer. I wear minimum 42mm up to 46mm. If a smaller 40mm has a longer lug to lug than normal I can wear it. Lug to lug is more important than dial dimension. The correct size is not universal, it depends on what looks right on your wrist.

  • @aussieexpat
    @aussieexpat 3 года назад

    Agreed that size is relative to the application, and not the wrist.. until it gets too big to even wear.

  • @brysoga
    @brysoga 3 года назад

    Haha "ah yes..." best start to a video ever.

  • @oliverfasola19
    @oliverfasola19 3 года назад

    I find the lug to lug the key for a watch to fit, as long as it doesn’t over hang either side of your wrist it should fit well

  • @chriskeiser5809
    @chriskeiser5809 3 года назад

    My wrist is between 7.5” and 7.75” and anything smaller than probably 38-39mm looks silly on my wrists. I tend to wear divers more, as they’re in the 40-42mm range.

  • @WatchMeEDC
    @WatchMeEDC 3 года назад

    I have a smaller wrist but own a 44mm Panerai Pam723 on bracelet and as I grow older it gets less and less wear time. It’s a beautiful design but size does matter. My Gen 3 Overseas and 124060 Submariner dominate wrist time. I worry a 39mm BB58 Blue would probably displace time from those as well 😬😳🤫

  • @timmcdonald5335
    @timmcdonald5335 3 года назад

    When you talk about the proportions and size you also have to talk about the weight of a watch. Both the size and the weight will determine the comfort of a watch.

  • @vernonfrogbottle1614
    @vernonfrogbottle1614 3 года назад

    Eeeerrrrrrrm, every thing you said really, however as mentioned in a previous post it's a lot to do with dial size for me too . My eclectic collection starts with a 35mm quartz accurist triple date from about 1988, 8 extremely various watches later and I've got 2020 rolex deepsea black face that I adore because of the face been as small as it is compared to the case. All in the eye of the beholder I suppose.

  • @alexandersmith855
    @alexandersmith855 3 года назад

    42x50mm serves as proportional ceiling of an acceptable case footprint for my 7.66" wrist (i.e. 40x48, 38x46, so on). Typically I find watches will have a shorter L2L than this system, probably hewing to golden ratio.
    My personal collection has 37-45mm diameters though w/o complications 41+ starts looking relatively cavernous to me. Unless "prescence" counts as a complication. My watches at or beyond 42 are all divers, pilots, or chronographs.

  • @ChiTownTx
    @ChiTownTx 3 года назад

    While each persons wrist size is different I agree that 40mm really is the sweet spot for most people. It just works on both small and large wrists in most cases.

  • @William_Saint-Agne
    @William_Saint-Agne 3 года назад +7

    I also happen to try and reassure myself with small white lies in my life. Whether it's about watch sizes or any other sizing topics.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      Was so close to adding innuendos etc. in the video but thought that would be just too easy ;)

    • @William_Saint-Agne
      @William_Saint-Agne 3 года назад

      @@ID-Guy I believe the video's thumbnail was enough of a giveaway ! You did got my immediate attention !

    • @reedgrabowski8314
      @reedgrabowski8314 3 года назад +1

      @@ID-Guy potential demonetize...

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      @@reedgrabowski8314 Oh but of course! ;)

  • @dgbucko
    @dgbucko 3 года назад

    My collection range is 36 to 43. Most at 38-40. Speedy is a weird one... says it is 42 but wears like a 39, whilst 39 mm railmaster wears like a 41 and is actually larger than the speedy when you place them dial to dial. So I get out the callipers, thinking i have the 41mm railmaster, but no, 39mm it is. Speedy is a 39 really, just with that extra thickness around the crown. Shape and length of lugs is the biggest decider on fit and how they look.

  • @MalaiischeIntelligez
    @MalaiischeIntelligez 3 года назад

    Get all the size and wear it! then you know how to enjoy your watch 👍

  • @VintageInvicta
    @VintageInvicta 3 года назад

    I like to wear watches between 40-48mm. But I got a lot of vintage watches that are between 33-38mm.

  • @x3mperformace
    @x3mperformace 3 года назад

    Hey.
    I have a lot of watches, spanning from 34 to 47 mm.
    And on soome wierd coincedence, they all fit me.
    Well, some look rather small, the first hour, when wearing them.
    And after that, the bigger ones look HUGE on my wrist, for an hour.
    That's what i thought for the last many years.
    Fast forward.
    Then i ordered a 42 mm. dress watch.
    OMG
    It is HUGE, like ice hokey puck (Invicta 52 mm +++ size) And i have a 47 mm Invicta diver, that fits me well.
    I never tok the plastic og, i never tried it on, i just ordered a 40 mm in stead.
    I wrote you a mail, so please reply in that.
    Sincerely
    Rene'

  • @mikehoward9912
    @mikehoward9912 2 года назад

    My 60 year old eyes need a 42- 44 mm size in a chronograph. Great food for thought..

  • @thepariswatchmaitresse5423
    @thepariswatchmaitresse5423 3 года назад +1

    Finally a topic IDGuy that you can relate to does size really matter or is it how you use it or perhaps 🤔 wear it is the question 🙋‍♀️ or would your GF be happy 😃 with her BF wearing a smaller watch on his wrist than the one she wears 😏⁉️

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      Like with so many things in life it's in the eye of the beholder and also how it's used, Ms. Arthur. And if my GF was a watch nutter like me, then the conversation would have to change (something tell's me we wouldn't be satisfied with any watch size) ;)

  • @admiralcraddock464
    @admiralcraddock464 3 года назад

    For me the sweet spot is 40mm as i have a 210mm wrist so 36 looks a bit lost on it. I think it all depend s on what you think suits you.

  • @ericb8888
    @ericb8888 3 года назад +1

    Clearly;)

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад

      Not all of us have 10" wrists, but yes, in some rare and attractive cases ;)

  • @John..18
    @John..18 3 года назад +3

    I think it's simply down to the size of your wrist, compared to the diameter of the watch,,,
    A watch that is small, can look as comical, on a large wrist, as a large watch, on a thin wrist... It's a matter of proportion,,, imho..

    • @chriszivoder2650
      @chriszivoder2650 3 года назад

      I think oversized watches still look far more comical.

  • @agroves72
    @agroves72 3 года назад

    To complicate things a bit more, should function affect the size of a watch if that function is no longer relevant? That is, if people are wearing watches for the association with diving, piloting, climbing Everest, etc., but 99% of buyers aren't actually using them for these things, is a size reconsideration warranted? Or perhaps we should acknowledge that the true function of almost all contemporary watches has more to do with fashion and status than whatever 20th century purposes they were originally designed for.

  • @wristroll_vlad
    @wristroll_vlad 2 года назад

    Fyi: the Navitimer was introduced in 1952, not in the 90s.

  • @janihellberg6911
    @janihellberg6911 3 года назад

    I feel larger watches wear me and I wear smaller ones. I have the new 36mm explorer and also the 39mm and with these watches it comes clear. I like to see bit of the bracelet when I'm looking down at my watch. Butting the 36 and 39 side by side the proportin of the 39 seems bit off. I also love my skx013.

    • @stiglnsborgsaxbjrn3392
      @stiglnsborgsaxbjrn3392 3 года назад

      The skx013 wears beautifully on the wrist, congratulations on your explorer, it is a great lifetime watch

  • @thedriver08
    @thedriver08 3 года назад

    The size of a watch is always relativ to it's wearer. In my opinion if you have smaller wrists, you maybe should consider trying a smaller size watch. It just looks a bit tacky when the lugs exceed your wrist. But in the end, everyone should wear what ever feels comfortable.

  • @TheDtigers
    @TheDtigers 3 года назад

    i believe PP 5227 is 39mm instead of 37mm

  • @CraigG21
    @CraigG21 3 года назад

    It’s all personal preference.
    I prefer watches with a dia 42mm and larger, but I have a wrist span of 63mm.

  • @michaelriera6277
    @michaelriera6277 3 года назад

    Proportions, proportions, proportions

  • @thomcarey1971
    @thomcarey1971 3 года назад

    Exactly! However, you seem to Pooh-Pooh the larger watch sizes. I have a 199mm wrist. I can easily wear a 45mm Seiko King Turtle, making it look like a very average sized watch…
    I absolutely love vintage 1940s and1950s watches. However, the much smaller sizes definitely limit their wearability. Should they somehow be forced to be enlarged to suit MY needs? No, of course not… So, please don’t presume to pontificate on a particular aesthetic size of watches, as a whole…

  • @somekidzenvy
    @somekidzenvy 3 года назад

    For my body type and west size, 40-45mm is perfect

  • @201950201950
    @201950201950 3 года назад

    I agree with the ID guy. All I would do is add 3 mm to every one of the watches he mentioned.

  • @markrichards3720
    @markrichards3720 3 года назад +2

    It's not size of watch it's size of wrsir and proportion an 8 inch wrist a daytona will look lost tbh.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад

      Funny story, a gent in the comments recently bought a new Daytona and couldn't even get it over his hand let alone fit it to his 8.5" wrist hahaha!

  • @papricep6248
    @papricep6248 3 года назад

    I have a 36mm DJ for me and a 41 DJ for going out on the town/dancing etc.

  • @davaedein
    @davaedein 3 года назад

    Size does matter when you're buying a high-end watch. I personally wanted to be sized for the right Rolex. I do not like submariners they are too big. My physique and wrist size was something I considered when I made my first luxury purchase. Plus when you're spending that kind of money you might want to think about choosing a watch that has an under-the-radar element to it. Ultimately you should really think about why you want to buy a high-end watch because you may be doing it for the wrong reasons

  • @DesignAtelier
    @DesignAtelier 3 года назад +3

    FIRST VIEW!

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +1

      This goes above and beyond everything else! Huge congratulations, m'boy!

    • @tomthompson7400
      @tomthompson7400 3 года назад +1

      And probably the least interesting post so far ,,, you must be proud.

    • @DesignAtelier
      @DesignAtelier 3 года назад +2

      @@ID-Guy this is the crowning achievement of my social media skills and the ultimate payoff of hitting that notification button. I would like to thank my mom for being there all the way, supporting me through the tough and grueling training. My wife of course i’d like to thank her, she's a real trooper and reminding me always that dinner is ready. And of course the watch community as a whole for continuing to push me around to engage when actually I should be working. Cheers to more video comments to come.

    • @ericb8888
      @ericb8888 3 года назад +1

      @@DesignAtelier …. Moving , thank you …..

    • @underachievingwatchcollect1878
      @underachievingwatchcollect1878 3 года назад +2

      Didn’t get 1st place-go figure for an underachiever 🤔.

  • @davidr2802
    @davidr2802 3 года назад

    I believe there is a Venn Diagram out there that perfectly situates the oh so frequent youtube watch hater in the overlap and it is made up of the cyclops, the HE valve, the Spring Drive dial PR indicator and watches less than 42mm for men.

  • @agill2103
    @agill2103 2 года назад

    Size Does Matter

  • @WatchJapan
    @WatchJapan 3 года назад

    All this is relative to one's eyesight. If I am to use a watch to tell the time, time a car or navigate, I need to be able to make out the hands and indices. Who but those with the best eyesight can make out the indices on a Daytona's sub-dials? Give me a 44mm maxi dialled JC DSSD any day of the week.

  • @stevering7799
    @stevering7799 3 года назад

    41 is the perfect size for my 7.5 inch wrist.

  • @jeffreygleaves2931
    @jeffreygleaves2931 3 года назад

    It all comes down to your wrist size.

  • @canonyeo4286
    @canonyeo4286 3 года назад

    My watches range from 34 to 47. Just by numbers you can't. Got to put it on the wrist and feel.

  • @therealkiasu
    @therealkiasu 3 года назад +8

    Big watches look atrocious. They look clumsy and classless.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад

      For sure, they can look very cartoonish and not "considered" at all in lots of situations

  • @msbelindapls
    @msbelindapls 3 года назад +1

    Haha have you seen a Daytona on Michael Jordan’s wrist?? Daytona looks fine on your wrist but it is like a 31mm watch on MJ.

  • @marcdee4427
    @marcdee4427 2 года назад

    40mm 42mm ok 👍🏻 any bigger is to big for me

  • @jumboJetPilot
    @jumboJetPilot 3 года назад

    Is that a clock on your wrist or are you just excited to see me?

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 3 года назад +4

    eight and a quarter wrist , ,, six foot and seventeen stones ,,, I wear a 36mm Explorer , size does matter , I for one wouldnt want to wear anything over a 40mm ever ,,, Just looks vulgar.
    But each to their own , wear whats comfy and what you enjoy wearing.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  3 года назад +2

      So glad to read that the bigger guys can still get a kick out of these classic proportions. It's all down to preference and thanks for the comment Tom!

    • @lipinglin1994
      @lipinglin1994 3 года назад +1

      I agree. Some big stuff is just crazy. Small doesn’t mean it is puny or not manly. It is taste that matters.

  • @digitalsublime
    @digitalsublime Год назад

    golden ratio doesn't matter the wrist size... someone doesn't get what ratio means