Unknowns, a reputation for playing dirty or savagely, super weapons, that the local subjects are in Hutt culture and rules for a dozen or two millennia, the drugs or contraband and trade, information, and millennia of neutrality agreements and treaties, and the relative lack of rivals. It’s just not worth the trouble.
In all honesty, this ship gives actual credence to the entire plot for the Clone wars movie when you think about it. Cause it's only referenced that Jabba commands Hutt space. Now we know with What they'd use to decimate either side trying to commence illegal entry through their territory
@@hurricaneace143 I think that either the Republic, the CIS, or the Empire *could* have taken on the Hutts and conquered Hutt Space, but that it would have taken a lot of resources and a good while to finally subdue
I think that either the Republic, the CIS, or the Empire could have taken on the Hutts and conquered them, but that it would have taken a lot of resources which none of those three parties could have afforded to commit while each of them was engaged with their own major war. Such a conflict between any of those three and the Hutts would have also taken a relatively long time to win, and then would probably be even harder to hold onto territory there with all the deep-rooted criminal culture
Yeah, I think I would have preferred a smaller interpretation of the Hutt heavy ships (ISD size at most); at the same time, they were also designed with the balance of the mods in question, and in that regard the ships make perfect sense: Hutts have to be able to stand up to supercapital ships somehow. While large masses of small ships certainly get the job done, it is also an EXPENSIVE way to get that job done: some tankiness is required.
yeah, that can be due to military assets or just the environment. a real world example is Switzerland, they weren't invaded in world war one or two because they kept armed neutrality and were located in the alps which together made Switzerland a very defensible nation that would be too costly to invade when the wars were already in such deadlock. The hutts are in a similar situation, a neutral party that would just take too many resources to conquer.
Didn't work at Jutland though, it is basically a bluff and if someone calls you on it, you lost. But of course you have to have an enemy, who is willing to commit his forces to such an attack, the Republic would not and the Empire would have not gained much from such a victory, which the Hutts weren't willing to sell/do already.
I enjoy the mix of EU and canon, I find the new canon so lacking in the details that the old EU had. Like they're afraid to commit to anything because they don't want to have to bother with continuity later. Bring on those minor factions, the Hapens, the Zygary, and even some of the corporate private security firms would be interesting.
I think quality fanfiction lore like this would be a great addition to the channel, particularly when it concerns Legends, because there's a lot of material and from the years I've been watching the channel I trust your judgement and skill at curating it. One of EC Henry's greatest draws for me is his fanon and speculation and how he connects it with existing and often obscure elements of the Star Wars galaxy. I also love going through roleplay stories like Corey's campaign and taking elements from that to reference in my own games with my IRL group. It would be good to have a very clean distinction between what's official and what's fanon, though, it was a little bit hard to tell for me on this one - it was just the name and the art that were official, yeah?
there should be a video about HUTT space ... is it a MAFIA style government, or more anarchist? cause theres lots of pirates and mercenaries in their space
It's described as more of a Feudal structure, As it has existed long before the Republic, Like 25,000 BBY period, They have client species serving them in perpetuity like the Nikto, Klatooinans, Vodrans, Etc, Post Treaty of Vontor.
the best contubrition to Star Wars is the fan lore, comics and anything that isn't Disentry! please keep up the great work and embrace the expanded universe
OT were there ever _any_ "nice or good" Hutts that still had a powerbase? A pragmatic Hutt who treats any slaves well enough and is less oppressive to other species (not other Hutts) based on the theory that having good relations with other powers and being seen as the lesser evil could be a effective strategy. Less at risk of being overthrown by their own people as their own people won't have it so good under another Hutt, and seen as "the Good Hutt" by bigger factions like the Republic or New Republic, so they will be more likely to get deals and maybe even subtle support against other more problematic Hutts? "He's a Hutt you can safely do business with..."
EU legends there was a Hutt named Ember or Amber, .. point being .. Said Hutt offer health and retirement benefits to its employees. He also moved around a lot and function as a visiting.. school teacher .. to talent scout. Ember has 600years worth of Corelian smugglers bloodlines working for him. They refer to Ember as Uncle or godfather, even great granddaddy. He is/was personable around young children. WotC3e Star Wars magazine had his stat write up. Part of the Vong resistance and had a number of darkside points from losing 400year worth of smuggler bloodlines. Classic line, " I remember your great grandfather when he was but a small baby, I even change his undergarments for a few years."
Dunno that it's quite what you're asking, but Legends had Blotus, who served as Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic for 275 years at some point during the 9th millennium BBY. His term was quite beneficial for the Republic's prosperity, and he was well-remembered even thousands of years later.
The Hutts were widespread enough that there were probably plenty who had little to no connection to the Hutt Cartels. Blotus was a pretty beloved Chancellor from the Republic's history, Aarrba was a very respectable and lenient Hutt who ran a repair dock during the old Republic on Koros Major during the Great Hyperspace War, and Popara Anjiliac ran mostly legitimate businesses to the point where even the New Jedi Order thought he was trustworthy enough to work with. I remember in the MedStar books there was a Hutt who served as quartermaster on the planet for the Republic, but he did have some connections with the Black Sun.
Young adult Hutts have about a century of decent mobility as essentially very thic snakemen before they get into their fat slug stage. I can't imagine anyone resisting a boarding party made of young Hutt shock troops.
Great video! I feel like they would have been a great antagonist for the sequel trilogy or Boba Fett. Could have made them more like Thanos figures with huge fleets.
There is also the fact that every time someone invaded a Hutt planet, the locals would go the ground and sabotage the hell out of the occupying force. Leave a tank unattended? It's going to be up on blocks without an engine in 10 minutes. Your troops loot some booze? Poisoned. It's like trying to occupy Detroit. Plus the Hutts could just hire every mercenary in 10 parsecs if needed.
I really, really wish we got to see what a post-treaty of vontor dissolution would look like in hutt space, like the primary framework for almost all of their operations are permanently shattered
When it comes to covering ships and other topics, I think its fine to delve into fanon interpretations and fan-made stats and backgrounds, so long as them being fan-made is defined. As for minor factions, it could be interesting to take a look into the Corporate Sector. Also maybe something on the Tion Hegemony/Tion space in general.
Yeah this is a big ship, going to massive CIS-Ships and higher end imperial territory here. Between Lucrehulk and Subjugator-class heavy cruiser or a little Praetor Mark II.
I mean, the Empire worked with a lot of the criminal underbelly when it could. They took over Kessel with the express purpose of mass industrialization of the spice/mining operations that were going on there already, to generate more resources/profit. Granted, that was done with the intent of providing an excuse to get shipments and resources out to the Maw Installation without too much scrutiny, but it is still a thing that happened.
This is my first video watched in a while but I think I speak for all of us when I say that getting rid of Legends was a massive blow to the Star Wars community, and fan creations should be propped up in lieu of Disney’s commodification of our beloved franchise as a symbol that the true community still stands.
I think you did a good job with this video. You distinguished between when you spoke of fan based material and official stuff. I personally would enjoy you speaking to both fan and official material. I would say keep doing a good job of keeping them distinct.
Hey mate, (New Zealander speak), I have been a long time channel follower and fellow canon and legends book enthusiast. Speaking as someone who follows both the old and the new content I really like the fact that you are covering some of the other ways Star Wars content is being introduced to new people. I think regardless of the medium it is a good thing to share our love for the SWU, so yes, keep the "enthusiast lore" coming :D
If only the Hutts were limited on how many they could build in Empire at War Remake. They spam these things out well before you can get capitals to match.
The Hutts should have been the antagonists of the sequels, linking The Mandalorian and the Book of Boba into the main story and having them join the New Republic into fighting the Hutts.
Really enjoyed this breakdown Eck, Ive always wondered about the Hutt fleets and what kind of threat they could pose in space so was pleased to see you cover it. Also I was about to start writing a comment requesting you dig into the Hapans next when you said it yourself so on the same page with that one mate! As for fan lore Im totally alright with you including it in order to flesh out the details like you did here and given my general disinterest in digging into canon material on my own, I'll happily add it into the Legends head-canon.
I think using fandom speculation on stats and armament is okay for Legends stuff that we just don’t have almost any info about as long the distinction is made between them.
This just reminds me that George Lucas wanted the sequels to be about space criminals like Hutts fighting against the new republic. So much potential for new ship designs and ideas scrapped in favor of more imperial stuff. Makes me sad
the fandom is the rightful successor to the old Expanded Universe... after all, it was that Expanded Universe that was written by fans. even if it isn't "official" we absolutely should keep the flame alive that Disney so maliciously tried to extinguish. also, is that a Homeworld 2 mod? if so, that is amazing.
Really dig well developed fan lore especially where legends and canon have not developed. You’re also really good at letting us know that it’s not canon and why you picked it.
At this point I don’t think I want companies like Disney and Ubisoft to take any inspiration from the interesting and obscure fanon or expanded universe material, I’d be fine with them leaving it all alone until someone who’s actually competent is making decisions that’ll do the lore justice.
I was playing the Star Wars: New Dawn mod as Alderaan and it had a really interesting lore. I had a piracy problem along the hyperlane and had to be bailed out by the Empire while also laying down the foundations of the Rebel Fleet. I had to strike a balance between preventing the imperial senate from becoming the Emperor’s plaything while also using all these military edicts to build and supply the burgeoning rebel fleet. I’ve not been this engaged by a Star Wars plot for a long time and I feel it was more down to the RNG and community modders than a scripted narrative.
I don't mind if you continue to insert some "fanon" where you think its appropriate. Just always make sure it's clear what is fan-made and what is official. Ideally if you present all the official stuff first and then if you say (e.g.) "and here are some fan interpretations that I like:" - similar to how you presented it here - we will all be happy to have learned something and to have had acquaintance with the fan designs/theories etc.
Talking about fandom speculations and fandom starships is an okay subject. There are plenty of good fan-designed Star Wars warships this channel could cover, and perhaps even invite the owner who made those ships and talk about the ship's military role, guns, size, how many fighters it can carry, etc.
I love the ancient Hutt Empire and think them and the Tionese were really cool early powers. I'd love to see more Fanon lore videos if you come across cool stuff or just want to talk about TR some more.
Respectfully, I disagree with your analysis of the reason the Hutts failed so spectacularly against the Vong. Even if they had focused on resistance from the outset, it wouldn't have made any substantial difference. The Hutts are certainly a regional power, but against something like the Vong, they were pathetically outclassed and virtually all their holdings were conquered within a year and a half. The only reason the Hutts survived in any major capacity from this calamity was eventual assistance from the GFFA and the main focus of the Vong turning elsewhere.
Considering how far away from Vector Prime Hutt Space is even a regional power would have been able to put up strong resistance to the Vong by the time they reached that part of the galaxy considering how much the invasion was stalling out by that point. Even more so if they were allied and coordinating with other powers in the Galaxy like the New Republic, Imperial Remnant or the Hapans. Another factor to consider is the Vong would be even weaker since they wouldn't have had the planets given to them by the Hutt's to help replenish their military so the Vong would need to conquer even more planets to have the same industrial base when they were already struggling with attrition.
Although no longer canon and was destroyed before completion, the Darksaber battle station could have been a force to be reckoned with had it been built competently.
The stern of the vessel actually looks well defended also, which is rare for a Star Wars vessel....I mean....one would suspect that a military vessel in space would have a '360' defense radius on its body, however few universes do this, I don't even think Star Trek dose this...one universe that dose this, though I've never actually seen the show, seems to be The Expanse, I've seen clips of the show, and all the vessels seem to have 360 defense and offense weapons, another I can think of would a game I play named 'Between the Stars' where different vessel will have turrets on top, below, and some vessels at the stern...odd how few universes acknowledge this fact.
@eckhartsladder Can't remember how much you've covered the Verpine, but I'd love to see some more content about them. IIRC they grew entirely organic ships which could be a neat topic.
I think understanding the relationship between them and the Empire leading up to the events in Andor would really enrich the viewing experience for the show. Also it would help more people to understand the implications of what happens when the Empire takes over the security aspect of that territory.
I seem to recall a book that took place after Endor where the Hutts were secretly building a Death Star cannon without the big station, just a basic hull to house it.
I do not consider Disney products cannon, due to their films breaking Lucas' universal physics lore. So, by all means, please included fannon stuff. It tends to fit in far better than anything Disney can make.
I still wanna see a fully animated scene of an entire ship being crewed by Hutts, how it'd look like with them all scurrying around at the high speeds they are supposedly capable of.
I mean, mostly those ships would be crewed by slaves/mercenaries, not the Hutts themselves. Hutts really only move fast in water or swampy/muddy environments, otherwise they just use repulsorlifts.
@@BierBart12 I mean both the Mon Calamari and the Weequay did it until they kept having issues of terrestrial passengers existing. And the especially big Calamari cruisers have certain areas flooded because they are civilian areas for back when the ships were still mostly city instead of warship. But as I said, Hutts have repulsor stuff for if they need to move quickly on land. Though Legends did have a clan of Hutts who wore carapace armor and they didn't use repulsors, just raw musclebro power...and additional servos/engines so their carapace counted as powered armor.
I really love this kind of content, please 🙏 please keep doing more legends lore, more fannon lore. I'd love for you to even wax poetically about Garm-bell Iblis
Hutts are interesting faction as they aren't really interested in direct conquest. Yeah they have a large section of space directly under their rule. But because they are a crime syndicate they don't need to rule a planet, just control enough key business and industries to bring more money and luxury goods to their empire. The actually map of Hutt influence was probably galaxy wide.
Whenever the strength of the Hutts comes up I can't help but voice my annoyance at the Clone Wars episode when Maul walks in a kills the heads of the five families. Each of them would have access to enough ships to prevent Maul from ever reaching the surface of that world.
IIRC; in the old EU it was suggested that the hutts might be the oldest space faring civilization in the galaxy at this time. Back before The Old Republic they a lot more militaristic, true warlords instead of crime lords that would just as likely to invade and conquer a system as corrupt it. They conquered a large chunk of the galaxy and might have reached as far as Coruscant.
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You can’t be a long lasting crime syndicate like the Hutts. Unless you have a formidable starship navy to protect your trade routes.
What, are you going to get intercepted in Hyperspace?
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Unknowns, a reputation for playing dirty or savagely, super weapons, that the local subjects are in Hutt culture and rules for a dozen or two millennia, the drugs or contraband and trade, information, and millennia of neutrality agreements and treaties, and the relative lack of rivals.
It’s just not worth the trouble.
Or intermarry with the existing power structure
@@eds1942 I don't know what that means.
probably why the empire didn’t just go in and decimate them
correct
In all honesty, this ship gives actual credence to the entire plot for the Clone wars movie when you think about it. Cause it's only referenced that Jabba commands Hutt space. Now we know with What they'd use to decimate either side trying to commence illegal entry through their territory
@@hurricaneace143 I think that either the Republic, the CIS, or the Empire *could* have taken on the Hutts and conquered Hutt Space, but that it would have taken a lot of resources and a good while to finally subdue
I think that either the Republic, the CIS, or the Empire could have taken on the Hutts and conquered them, but that it would have taken a lot of resources which none of those three parties could have afforded to commit while each of them was engaged with their own major war. Such a conflict between any of those three and the Hutts would have also taken a relatively long time to win, and then would probably be even harder to hold onto territory there with all the deep-rooted criminal culture
@@EckhartsLadder why wouldn’t the empire just use the Death Star to destroy the Hutt fleet, or at least cripple it?
The Hutt Navy wasn't there to defeat an Imperial invasion. It existed to make any invasion of Hutt Space not worth the cost.
Yeah, I think I would have preferred a smaller interpretation of the Hutt heavy ships (ISD size at most); at the same time, they were also designed with the balance of the mods in question, and in that regard the ships make perfect sense: Hutts have to be able to stand up to supercapital ships somehow. While large masses of small ships certainly get the job done, it is also an EXPENSIVE way to get that job done: some tankiness is required.
It's like the space criminal version of the Switzerland
You don't always need to be strong enough to win a war, often you just need to be strong enough to make defeating you too unpleasant to bother with
yeah, that can be due to military assets or just the environment. a real world example is Switzerland, they weren't invaded in world war one or two because they kept armed neutrality and were located in the alps which together made Switzerland a very defensible nation that would be too costly to invade when the wars were already in such deadlock.
The hutts are in a similar situation, a neutral party that would just take too many resources to conquer.
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Didn't work at Jutland though, it is basically a bluff and if someone calls you on it, you lost. But of course you have to have an enemy, who is willing to commit his forces to such an attack, the Republic would not and the Empire would have not gained much from such a victory, which the Hutts weren't willing to sell/do already.
I love the creativity of the modders who were able to take that picture and create a functional fleet.
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That ship make me have a big jumpscare when the hutt first attack me in empire at war (AotR mod). Truly very well represented, a tank of a ship.
It was a beast in EOW. Great to use against anyone, Vong included. Some of the smaller ones sucked ghough
I really dont care what you talk about, canon, fandom, legends, doesnt matter. I love your content, and I'll watch no matter what
From time to time I remind myself that the ISD is so fast that It can pursue an blockade runner and the fockin millennium falcon
Hutts : my super dreadnought ,Fat prince named after my boy
the hutt's version of "ludicrous speed" is probably the same as an imperial tug boat 🙂
I enjoy the mix of EU and canon, I find the new canon so lacking in the details that the old EU had. Like they're afraid to commit to anything because they don't want to have to bother with continuity later. Bring on those minor factions, the Hapens, the Zygary, and even some of the corporate private security firms would be interesting.
Absolutely talk about FANON...better stories and info than some "canon".. and yes Hapens next
Yes! Hapens please!
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I think quality fanfiction lore like this would be a great addition to the channel, particularly when it concerns Legends, because there's a lot of material and from the years I've been watching the channel I trust your judgement and skill at curating it. One of EC Henry's greatest draws for me is his fanon and speculation and how he connects it with existing and often obscure elements of the Star Wars galaxy. I also love going through roleplay stories like Corey's campaign and taking elements from that to reference in my own games with my IRL group. It would be good to have a very clean distinction between what's official and what's fanon, though, it was a little bit hard to tell for me on this one - it was just the name and the art that were official, yeah?
there should be a video about HUTT space ... is it a MAFIA style government, or more anarchist? cause theres lots of pirates and mercenaries in their space
It's described as more of a Feudal structure, As it has existed long before the Republic, Like 25,000 BBY period, They have client species serving them in perpetuity like the Nikto, Klatooinans, Vodrans, Etc, Post Treaty of Vontor.
the best contubrition to Star Wars is the fan lore, comics and anything that isn't Disentry! please keep up the great work and embrace the expanded universe
OT were there ever _any_ "nice or good" Hutts that still had a powerbase?
A pragmatic Hutt who treats any slaves well enough and is less oppressive to other species (not other Hutts) based on the theory that having good relations with other powers and being seen as the lesser evil could be a effective strategy.
Less at risk of being overthrown by their own people as their own people won't have it so good under another Hutt, and seen as "the Good Hutt" by bigger factions like the Republic or New Republic, so they will be more likely to get deals and maybe even subtle support against other more problematic Hutts?
"He's a Hutt you can safely do business with..."
EU legends there was a Hutt named Ember or Amber, .. point being ..
Said Hutt offer health and retirement benefits to its employees. He also moved around a lot and function as a visiting.. school teacher .. to talent scout. Ember has 600years worth of Corelian smugglers bloodlines working for him. They refer to Ember as Uncle or godfather, even great granddaddy. He is/was personable around young children.
WotC3e Star Wars magazine had his stat write up. Part of the Vong resistance and had a number of darkside points from losing 400year worth of smuggler bloodlines.
Classic line, " I remember your great grandfather when he was but a small baby, I even change his undergarments for a few years."
Dunno that it's quite what you're asking, but Legends had Blotus, who served as Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic for 275 years at some point during the 9th millennium BBY. His term was quite beneficial for the Republic's prosperity, and he was well-remembered even thousands of years later.
The Hutts were widespread enough that there were probably plenty who had little to no connection to the Hutt Cartels. Blotus was a pretty beloved Chancellor from the Republic's history, Aarrba was a very respectable and lenient Hutt who ran a repair dock during the old Republic on Koros Major during the Great Hyperspace War, and Popara Anjiliac ran mostly legitimate businesses to the point where even the New Jedi Order thought he was trustworthy enough to work with. I remember in the MedStar books there was a Hutt who served as quartermaster on the planet for the Republic, but he did have some connections with the Black Sun.
I think that the Pyke Syndicate could do with their own video.
Young adult Hutts have about a century of decent mobility as essentially very thic snakemen before they get into their fat slug stage. I can't imagine anyone resisting a boarding party made of young Hutt shock troops.
Great video! I feel like they would have been a great antagonist for the sequel trilogy or Boba Fett. Could have made them more like Thanos figures with huge fleets.
There is also the fact that every time someone invaded a Hutt planet, the locals would go the ground and sabotage the hell out of the occupying force. Leave a tank unattended? It's going to be up on blocks without an engine in 10 minutes. Your troops loot some booze? Poisoned. It's like trying to occupy Detroit.
Plus the Hutts could just hire every mercenary in 10 parsecs if needed.
When I think of Hutt spacecraft I think of the Star Jewel in Dark Forces on PC. Jabba's personal space ship.
Star Wars is the fans. Loved the video keep it up man.
god i love the Hutt ship aesthetic its the perfect pirate look for SW
I really, really wish we got to see what a post-treaty of vontor dissolution would look like in hutt space, like the primary framework for almost all of their operations are permanently shattered
Chonk
Do the hutts deliver pizza with those ships?
PIZZA THE HUTT?!
Now that you mention it the sails look a lot like Pizza Hut's visual designs. It's a giant converted Pizza Hutt restaurant!
When it comes to covering ships and other topics, I think its fine to delve into fanon interpretations and fan-made stats and backgrounds, so long as them being fan-made is defined.
As for minor factions, it could be interesting to take a look into the Corporate Sector. Also maybe something on the Tion Hegemony/Tion space in general.
4 km is mental
With all due respect to Corey
Yeah this is a big ship, going to massive CIS-Ships and higher end imperial territory here. Between Lucrehulk and Subjugator-class heavy cruiser or a little Praetor Mark II.
I was always wondering why the Empire didn't really do anything to the crime syndicates. This explains so much.
I mean, the Empire worked with a lot of the criminal underbelly when it could. They took over Kessel with the express purpose of mass industrialization of the spice/mining operations that were going on there already, to generate more resources/profit. Granted, that was done with the intent of providing an excuse to get shipments and resources out to the Maw Installation without too much scrutiny, but it is still a thing that happened.
I wouldn't mind if you talked about all spectrums official and unofficial.
Honestly, really a beaty for something made by them 😂
This is my first video watched in a while but I think I speak for all of us when I say that getting rid of Legends was a massive blow to the Star Wars community, and fan creations should be propped up in lieu of Disney’s commodification of our beloved franchise as a symbol that the true community still stands.
I think you did a good job with this video. You distinguished between when you spoke of fan based material and official stuff. I personally would enjoy you speaking to both fan and official material. I would say keep doing a good job of keeping them distinct.
Hey mate, (New Zealander speak), I have been a long time channel follower and fellow canon and legends book enthusiast. Speaking as someone who follows both the old and the new content I really like the fact that you are covering some of the other ways Star Wars content is being introduced to new people. I think regardless of the medium it is a good thing to share our love for the SWU, so yes, keep the "enthusiast lore" coming :D
If only the Hutts were limited on how many they could build in Empire at War Remake. They spam these things out well before you can get capitals to match.
The Hutts should have been the antagonists of the sequels, linking The Mandalorian and the Book of Boba into the main story and having them join the New Republic into fighting the Hutts.
Think my favorite Hutt was the one that was just absolutely JACKED. Great video Eck
Really enjoyed this breakdown Eck, Ive always wondered about the Hutt fleets and what kind of threat they could pose in space so was pleased to see you cover it. Also I was about to start writing a comment requesting you dig into the Hapans next when you said it yourself so on the same page with that one mate! As for fan lore Im totally alright with you including it in order to flesh out the details like you did here and given my general disinterest in digging into canon material on my own, I'll happily add it into the Legends head-canon.
@6:00 Is the most disturbing image I have seen of Hutts, I will see that in my dreams.
I think using fandom speculation on stats and armament is okay for Legends stuff that we just don’t have almost any info about as long the distinction is made between them.
This just reminds me that George Lucas wanted the sequels to be about space criminals like Hutts fighting against the new republic. So much potential for new ship designs and ideas scrapped in favor of more imperial stuff. Makes me sad
the fandom is the rightful successor to the old Expanded Universe... after all, it was that Expanded Universe that was written by fans. even if it isn't "official" we absolutely should keep the flame alive that Disney so maliciously tried to extinguish.
also, is that a Homeworld 2 mod? if so, that is amazing.
What mod or submod is being shown at 5:21? The Resurgence Star Destroyer isn't in Thrawn's Revenge, though those assets look like they're from it
Really dig well developed fan lore especially where legends and canon have not developed. You’re also really good at letting us know that it’s not canon and why you picked it.
More of this videos will be cool
Videos like this make me imagine a whole fan-franchise of Legends continuation/expansion fanon. Keep it up!
I am looking forward to seeing your Hapan faction video.
I distinctly remember being prisoner on a Hutt ship and beating several dragons to death with my bare hands... maybe I was overcome by Dark Forces
At this point I don’t think I want companies like Disney and Ubisoft to take any inspiration from the interesting and obscure fanon or expanded universe material, I’d be fine with them leaving it all alone until someone who’s actually competent is making decisions that’ll do the lore justice.
I was playing the Star Wars: New Dawn mod as Alderaan and it had a really interesting lore. I had a piracy problem along the hyperlane and had to be bailed out by the Empire while also laying down the foundations of the Rebel Fleet.
I had to strike a balance between preventing the imperial senate from becoming the Emperor’s plaything while also using all these military edicts to build and supply the burgeoning rebel fleet.
I’ve not been this engaged by a Star Wars plot for a long time and I feel it was more down to the RNG and community modders than a scripted narrative.
I don't mind if you continue to insert some "fanon" where you think its appropriate. Just always make sure it's clear what is fan-made and what is official. Ideally if you present all the official stuff first and then if you say (e.g.) "and here are some fan interpretations that I like:" - similar to how you presented it here - we will all be happy to have learned something and to have had acquaintance with the fan designs/theories etc.
Talking about fandom speculations and fandom starships is an okay subject. There are plenty of good fan-designed Star Wars warships this channel could cover, and perhaps even invite the owner who made those ships and talk about the ship's military role, guns, size, how many fighters it can carry, etc.
Factions compared idea sci fi insect swarm. Such as Tyranids, arachnids, Zerg, rachni, terminids.
loved the video! keep up adding the fan lore where it fits!
Come on Eckharts pls give us a little of fans civil war content, is so entertain
I love content fans do, it's a lot better than Disney wars. Corey and his team do a great job especially in the lore department.
I'd really like to see a video about Grievous' shuttle The Martyr, the one that Dooku sabotaged. I've always thought that ship was so pretty.
Fandom ships that have sine basis in lore like this are cool
the huts are wild, their empire predates the republic itself, which if you know the lore, thats a really long time
Hey EK, I think a faction that almost never gets covered is the Eraidu Authority. I know there isn’t a whole lot but I am curious to what’s out there
I love the ancient Hutt Empire and think them and the Tionese were really cool early powers. I'd love to see more Fanon lore videos if you come across cool stuff or just want to talk about TR some more.
I mean, disney abandoned the EU, I think fannon and fan fiction around it keep it alive and exciting
Please do continue to do fan-story videos, as long as you state that they are fanon. Yed, we need a Hapan video.
I'm interested in you talking about more fandom vehicles or Legends vehicles that were flushed out by the fandom.
I'd like more of this content. Great video!
Always love that dog clip xD
Keep the fandom coming!
Respectfully, I disagree with your analysis of the reason the Hutts failed so spectacularly against the Vong. Even if they had focused on resistance from the outset, it wouldn't have made any substantial difference. The Hutts are certainly a regional power, but against something like the Vong, they were pathetically outclassed and virtually all their holdings were conquered within a year and a half. The only reason the Hutts survived in any major capacity from this calamity was eventual assistance from the GFFA and the main focus of the Vong turning elsewhere.
Considering how far away from Vector Prime Hutt Space is even a regional power would have been able to put up strong resistance to the Vong by the time they reached that part of the galaxy considering how much the invasion was stalling out by that point. Even more so if they were allied and coordinating with other powers in the Galaxy like the New Republic, Imperial Remnant or the Hapans. Another factor to consider is the Vong would be even weaker since they wouldn't have had the planets given to them by the Hutt's to help replenish their military so the Vong would need to conquer even more planets to have the same industrial base when they were already struggling with attrition.
The hutts seemed to be like a secret entity that scares bigger governments.
Although no longer canon and was destroyed before completion, the Darksaber battle station could have been a force to be reckoned with had it been built competently.
There are some amazing fanon ship concepts out there.
Considering the infighting and rivalries within Hutt Space, I don't think even they knew the size of their military.
I’m all in for you covering more fanon stuff especially ec Henry and Corey’s stuff
Official for sure, legends and Canon are cool
The stern of the vessel actually looks well defended also, which is rare for a Star Wars vessel....I mean....one would suspect that a military vessel in space would have a '360' defense radius on its body, however few universes do this, I don't even think Star Trek dose this...one universe that dose this, though I've never actually seen the show, seems to be The Expanse, I've seen clips of the show, and all the vessels seem to have 360 defense and offense weapons, another I can think of would a game I play named 'Between the Stars' where different vessel will have turrets on top, below, and some vessels at the stern...odd how few universes acknowledge this fact.
Wow weirdly timed was starting a hutt campaing on empire at war with a mofdand wanted to know more about hutt navys lol thank you very much
I’m very much still interested in legends and the now non-canonized events. So definitely keep it up lol
Love this design
Talk about Bootana Hutta. Or their actual homeworld pls
Big question: Is it intentional that Hutt space looks like a top down drawing of the Millennium Falcon?
Eck, this was a cool exposé to do on Hutt ships.
more videos on the hutts would be really cool, EAWX has really sparked my interest in them
@eckhartsladder Can't remember how much you've covered the Verpine, but I'd love to see some more content about them. IIRC they grew entirely organic ships which could be a neat topic.
Yeah, methinks the Vong would've still steamrolled thru Hutt Space even if they didn't try to play both side- see how the Yevetha were treated.
Downloaded this mod 3 days ago and used Hutt space. Can’t believe there’s a video on this now
I would love to see a deeper examination of the Corporate Sector specifically running up to and then during the events of Andor.
I think understanding the relationship between them and the Empire leading up to the events in Andor would really enrich the viewing experience for the show. Also it would help more people to understand the implications of what happens when the Empire takes over the security aspect of that territory.
Def need to do an episode on the Hapes.
In the illustration at 4:35, where is the little critter to the left of R2D2 from? The one with the gun that looks like a dragon
I seem to recall a book that took place after Endor where the Hutts were secretly building a Death Star cannon without the big station, just a basic hull to house it.
Darksaber
I do not consider Disney products cannon, due to their films breaking Lucas' universal physics lore. So, by all means, please included fannon stuff. It tends to fit in far better than anything Disney can make.
I can't wait for the Hapans!! They are one of my favs.
I still wanna see a fully animated scene of an entire ship being crewed by Hutts, how it'd look like with them all scurrying around at the high speeds they are supposedly capable of.
I mean, mostly those ships would be crewed by slaves/mercenaries, not the Hutts themselves. Hutts really only move fast in water or swampy/muddy environments, otherwise they just use repulsorlifts.
@@GeneGear So a ship built specifically for Hutt use would be a muddy/waterlogged mess
Or an indoor pool
@@BierBart12 I mean both the Mon Calamari and the Weequay did it until they kept having issues of terrestrial passengers existing. And the especially big Calamari cruisers have certain areas flooded because they are civilian areas for back when the ships were still mostly city instead of warship.
But as I said, Hutts have repulsor stuff for if they need to move quickly on land. Though Legends did have a clan of Hutts who wore carapace armor and they didn't use repulsors, just raw musclebro power...and additional servos/engines so their carapace counted as powered armor.
Yes include fan thoughts, just make sure to distinguish 😁
Could you go over the Force Factions? Baran Do Sage, Ithorian Priest, Makutai, Jai Shay, etc
It sounded like you were trying to seal the Necronomicon for a bit there when describing the Hutt slave races.
I really love this kind of content, please 🙏 please keep doing more legends lore, more fannon lore. I'd love for you to even wax poetically about Garm-bell Iblis
Hutts are interesting faction as they aren't really interested in direct conquest. Yeah they have a large section of space directly under their rule. But because they are a crime syndicate they don't need to rule a planet, just control enough key business and industries to bring more money and luxury goods to their empire. The actually map of Hutt influence was probably galaxy wide.
Whenever the strength of the Hutts comes up I can't help but voice my annoyance at the Clone Wars episode when Maul walks in a kills the heads of the five families. Each of them would have access to enough ships to prevent Maul from ever reaching the surface of that world.
I don't mind videos about fanon stuff, provided the video is clearly labeled as such!
Certainly enjoy you talking about EaWX
IIRC; in the old EU it was suggested that the hutts might be the oldest space faring civilization in the galaxy at this time. Back before The Old Republic they a lot more militaristic, true warlords instead of crime lords that would just as likely to invade and conquer a system as corrupt it. They conquered a large chunk of the galaxy and might have reached as far as Coruscant.