Here’s Why I Quit Using The Cadet After 2 Years!
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So a very minimalist, urban office EDC knife doesn't work well as an EDC for an outdoorsman? Who woulda thunk it? Hah. But seriously, the fingernail file is for your fingernails, not screws. I love your videos, btw. This just comes off like an office worker like me complaining that the Leatherman Surge is too big and bulky for trimming my nails at the office.
I get it, I and I appreciate the comment. In the sharing perspective of someone that doesn’t enjoy that design when most people on the Internet sing it’s praises. Helping give people food for thought and alternatives.
Agreed not a fair comparison between a $45 1.6 oz SAK and a $75 5 oz multitool
I think the leatherman squirt (now discontinued) will always be my choice for a key chain multitool. The Gerber Dime and Gerber Vise or one of the Nextools of similar 2-3 oz keychain multi variet at $20-30 are a much more fair comparison to the Cadet
I do agree agree with Aaron as well as much as I love collecting Victorinox Pocket Knives I tend to carry multitools due to better functionality and also I prefer locking blades.
Was thinking the same thing.
I have not found a more usable pocketknife/multi-tool for my daily needs in urban/suburban settings than the Cadet/Recruit. I have carried mine for 20+ years and use it constantly to pry, scrape, unscrew and cut countless things. I feel naked when doing home projects without it. Slips into the fifth pocket on jeans quite easily, unlike larger models like the Pioneer and Farmer, which I also have. I only wish it had something like 14C28n so that I can keep zipping through cardboard (way better than most other "modern" knives thanks to its much thinner blade stock) without having to resharpen repeatedly.
I've stopped obsessing over and trying to find the best all-around "modern" folder (selling my expensive and disappointing Neutron 2 and Hogue Mini RSK, both collecting dust in my drawer) and am sticking with the Cadet for everyday use and a small fixed blade for hiking/outdoors/hard use.
@@gideonstacticalvery diplomatic response. Thumbs up
@@gideonstactical Exactly that! I don't know why people are criticising you for this vid. Even if they don't agree it's good to see it through someone else's viewpoint. You're not hating on Victorinox as a whole.
Nutnfancy is loosing his mind right now
Hahaha 🤣 I love nutnfancy one of the true pioneers of the gear review genre
losing?
Nah. The Cadet's too heavy for Nutnfancy to carry. Dude acts like having gear that weighs more than 2 oz per piece in your kit is going to wreck someone. Nice guy but his philosophy on gear is almost as bad as the "ultralight" backpackers who think that you only need a razor blade
Size & weight considerations....
@@dualsportedc He’s a goofball, but his advice is solid… size and weight is why a lot of people don’t carry stuff. He’s a huge cadet fan!
I'm not sure what the point is in comparing the Cadet to non equivalent alternatives. The Leatherman Squirt PS4 I carry as my EDC is also more versatile, but it's not equivalent either. Victorinox has a ton of tool combinations, all you need to do if you are so inclined is get the ones that are right for your likely usage profile.
This is my thought as well. None of these ”alternatives” match the super compact form factor of the cadet. I’ve been carrying the cadet for almost 7 years now and will continue to do so. It definitely comes down to what you typically find yourself using every day.
The point is generating eyeballs and angry comments to generate revenue for his channel, that's all. More comments = more algorithm recommendations and revenue.
@@ogarzabello agree completely
AGREE.
I tend to disagree Aaron i’ve carried a cadet for years and recently acclimated it to a hitch and timber runt 2.0 wallet where it fits a long, an olight i3t eos prior to that it disappeared in my pocket because of its light weight, and thinness, it has served me well, Albeit smaller practical everyday tasks. i’ve always paired it up with a rotating edc like a Benchmade 940 or a varying Spyderco it’s never served me wrong, and it will continue to be helpful companion
I carry this as a cop for my personal knife - I also mostly carry this one off duty. I also have a full tool box in the patrol car and a leatherman on my vest, and The “dope/evidence knife” is a bugout.
I don’t feel “under-knifed” with the cadet at all
I like your review, but the cadet does have a time and a place. As someone who wears a suit and works in an office, the cadet does make a great edc. But like anything with edc, it has to fit your needs, likes and restrictions. Keep up the great work. 🙌🙌
Exactly. My Cadet is the one that always comes with me when I have to dress more formally.
I just carry a leatherman wave with a pocketclip.
The only reason I carry a SAK is to lend to people who need a knife.
The cadet is garbage.
@@evan-hv4ui that's great you can carry that. I can once I leave work. I do prefer the victorinox compact as a work carry.
@@evan-hv4ui you sound like a regular James Bond, bro 😂
I carry a SAK every day. Not sure what the Cadet has over the even less obtrusive Bantam. There is the nail file I suppose but no scissors to go with it. The next step up from the Bantam is the Compact impo
If Victorinox would give us a Cadet X, it would be the perfect classy gents knife for personal care, office duty, etc. Victorinox encourages the submission of suggestions by email… I ask them for a Cadet X every year.
I've been thinking the same for years too. In the meantime, I'm super happy with the Rambler as a 5th pocket option accompanied by a primary folding knife.
@@danlangevin2459 I’ve been doing the same with the rambler model that has an ink pen, paired with a Spyderco Native. It’s actually way more reliable than a space pen and more usable than the 91 mm SAK pen. I’d prefer larger scissors, but it’s great for the size.
I’d rather have a Bantam X, the Pioneer X is pretty much a Cadet with scissors.
@@scottburns5242awl instead of file and it’s 93mm instead of 84mm
Love the Cadet, always in my 5th pocket, unless I’m carrying my Pioneer. I love modern folders, but always have a SAK on me.
Same here, I carry a larger folder all the time, usually a Spyderco Manix 2 but the Cadet is always in the bottom of my pocket. Just yesterday I used the bottle opener/flat head to get a nail out of the wheel of a pallet jack that was causing it not to roll good.
A few years ago I was at Target walking by the camping section. They had a cadet on the rack with a clearance sticker for $11. I grabbed it assuming someone made a mistake and Target honored it. Haven’t looked back. It’s a good looking SAK that’s also not intimidating and therefore can easily be used just about anywhere without raising pulses. Also that thin profile is hard to beat in your pocket when you’re wearing a button down and slacks or even a suit.
I wouldn’t consider it to be a multi tool it’s a super slim pen knife with a nail file little flat head and bottle and can opener that takes up little to no space in the pocket love it
This may be the first time I've ever disagreed with one of your reviews! For me, the Cadet is the perfect "gentlemen's knife", or "church knife" for somone in the edc community. I have used all of the tools at one time or another. Besides the blade, I have used the file for small tasks and even for a broken fingernail. I've tightened door hinges and changed light switches with the screwdriver. Often, I carry many other, bigger knives and tools in more casual environments. These include the Benchmade Bugout, Spyderco's, and several various Leathermens, but the Cadet is just right when absolute minimalism is required.
The Cadet has been my office EDC for a few years now and I love it. I work in a city with a 3" blade restriction and have to wear dress clothes, so it's a great fit for my 9-5 needs, especially when paired with a Victorinox Manager on my keychain (which has the tweezers, scissors and a phillips). I think it's a good option in the summer with mesh/lightweight shorts too. It all depends on someones needs and environment. Good hot take though.
I have been carrying the Victorinox Deluxe Tinker for many many years, and I do not leave home with out it. I also carry a old Gerber Multi tool. So there are many things I can take care of.
It's perfect for EDC. Your daily life is just very different from most people's.
It's more than capable for what most people need, and it's small and light enough that the barrier to actually having it on you everyday is very low.
As for how to carry it--TEC Accessories P7 clip. It's super low profile, retains very well, and the flexibility of it makes it basically disappear.
I usually carry it when I'm wearing athletic/leisure wear when even my lighter knives would be awkward or even pull at the clothing.
It's also great to hand over to people who don't know anything about folding knives and might be intimidate or not care for your primary.
Yeah, screws are a common occurance, but most I encounter are tiny or specialized... so I keep a multi bit driver in my messanger bag with various bit sets. The on-board bits with the Leathermans wouldn't even work for most of them I touch.
Also... That tool you don't understand---it's for taking care of your nails.
Being in a country (like me in the UK) where I can't carry a locking knife, doesn't limit me to SAKs. I do carry them a lot but also I have a few nice folders - Spyderco Urban, Manly Wasp, Bokerplus Atlas and more - which I can carry legally. However if I do carry one of my 91 or 93mm SAKs I find the blade more than adequate. I watched a vid a few weeks ago (don't remember the channel) where someone who had a few folders, all with better blade steel and ergonomics than the SAK as well as more expensive, actually came to the conclusion that his SAKs were better for the cutting tasks he came across. Blade steel isn't everything, blade geometry and grind are very important too, and the SAK blades are very slicey. But obviously if you're carrying a dedicated folder, that is your main blade.
I actually understand what you're saying about the Cadet, even though I am a bit of a Vic fanboy. I haven't bought a Cadet or the celidor scaled equivalent, the Recruit, because I don't really rate the nailfile as a tool for my own use. If I wanted something similar to the Cadet I'd say go with the good old Pioneer, that is pretty much what the Swiss Army was actually issued for nearly half a century, it's much more robust and the awl is great on it, way more useful than the nailfile. As it is I have the Farmer and Farmer X which add saw, and saw and scissors respectively to the Pioneer.
But I still manage to shoehorn a Victorinox into my EDC even when my main blade is a folder. I bought the Jetsetter for a business trip, but if I carry that, a folder, Knipex Cobra XS, and a prybar/flathead keychain tool, I'm pretty much sorted for urban EDC. I was surprised that the little Phillips on the Jetsetter combotool can easily handle Phillips up to PH2 size, although obviously you can't put massive torque on it, but I'm not going to be using it to dismantle a tractor engine, I have dedicated tools or larger multitools for heavier duty work.
I think the Victorinox (Compact in my case) is a perfect EDC in an urban/office environment, it is enough for me 90% of the time
I only take the multitool with me if I know it will be used
It is a fantastic choice for people in countries where carrying big knives can get you into trouble, unlike a SAK that is more gentile and subtle.
I bought my Cadet when I was 14 and it's still one of my favorites 10 years later. Have a hot take, but never on the Cadet.
Every tool out there isn’t for everyone. Personally, the Cadet is my favorite SAK (followed very closely by the Compact and Explorer). It’s not going to suit every need in every situation, but that’s usually why those who have an EDC usually carrying another multitool or blade that has slightly more functionality. My personal every day carry is the Cadet and Powerpint. I use the Cadet for probably 90% of what I might need to do on a daily basis and of course the Powerpint is just awesome. I love that thing. So, I can’t really agree or disagree with you. I’ll just say that I love my Cadet (s) and I hope you find a better solution for yourself.
I use the cadet everyday at work to cut things with adhesive so that my main blade is always gunk free.
Of course, the small ones are for kids. The large 111mm actual army knives - civilian versions for the law - are where it's at.
All good points. I sometimes carried it when I lived in the city and thought there would be a slim to none chance I would actually need it for anything and even then I preferred having a three or four layer 91mm with plus scales which give you a toothpick, tweezers, pen, and pin, which often came in handy.
The can opener and bottle opener I use as very handy pry bars. I end up using those more than the blades.
At about 6:08, you talk about pre-scoring before using the wire stripper. I use it without prescoring and get good results. Try varying the angle that you hold it on the wire and you can pretty easily get it to remove the insulation without the need to pre-score.
LMAO! the file is for fingernails... and cleaning under your fingernails! That's bad you didn't know that Aaron!
Tinker Deluxe - Opening layer, blade layer, scissors and (I’ll be much smaller) pair of pliers. Philips, hook, and awl on the back. Can’t carry a locking blade where you live, Tinker Deluxe, awesome tool, carried it for years. I’m a network admin, this tool comes in especially handy in the server room!
You seem to be comparing apples to oranges. I have a few SAKs but they all have corkscrews, so I guess I agree that the Cadet isn't the best thing in the pocket. I use the knife, corkscrew and can opener all the time when I'm car camping or just traveling. You say that you can go to one of your survival kits to grab a can-opener but I go the other way and if I need pliers or a saw, go to the car or camper to grab my Leatherman. If I was going on an overnight hike I would carry my Leatherman instead, but I'm not ranging to far any more. Love your reviews.
For the past 5 years, my 24/7 carry has been the Skeketool, and the Leatherman Style CS which pairs up nicely with its scissors, nail file, tweezers, and back-up blade. I hardly notice either one of these on body. I'm sure that I speak for many other EDC'ers here as well.
Skeletool is the multitool that carries like a knife. Got the most used basics on it. I carry mine with a tiny Victorinox Signature, as my Victorinox brings a Pen, Scissors and a file that ny skeletool lacks, and between the two I can do pretty much anything
Fully understand your viewpoint. EDC items are SO personal and need to fit our lives and each day we have planned. For me the Midnite Manager is perfect fo me ( office job), takes up so little pocket space and is used 2-3 times per day at least! UK-based - most leatherman are out and I only use pliers at the weekend - so I am evaluating if I really need to carry knipex pliers averyday...
The Cadet is a great Boy Scout/Scouting knife.
It has everything that THEY need.
Simple.
If you have a keychain like Gideon (an anchor), not only is it affecting the weight in your pocket, it is affecting your vehicle's key area on your steering column as well.
I've never considered the Cadet because it's too limited in it's function, although I understand it's nice and slim. I like the Super Tinker for around the house, and the Huntsman for outdoors.
About 30 years carrying a SAK Explorer. I think it can be called my edc now!😆
I feel like this video is a miss. The cadet’s purpose is for when size and weight are 100% more important than functionality. Maybe as a super slim backup option to your full size multitool, or you carry a dedicated fix it pouch in a bag and not on body, and this gives you minimal on body functionality, or you just want a classy minimalist knife that can do some minor screw driving/jimmying/shimmying/and personal care 🤷♂️ I feel like it wasn’t evaluated in that context at all. I understand that’s not your context, but I didn’t get the “this is a great option, just not for my lifestyle..” vibes. I got “this thing is pointless” vibes.
Dude, you are exactly right about NEVER needing or using an EDC can opener OR a bottle opener. I do still like my cadet, I just use use those tools as a pry bar and package opener. Lives in my coin pocket mostly.
Throw it in your 5th pocket when your wearing jeans etc and either need the room in your regular pockets or your feeling like a light carry day idk 🤷♂️ I almost never carry a multi tool unless I’m at the gun range or camping and I guess u could carry a bigger victorinox in the 5th pocket and have more options 🤔 😊.
I think anyone EDCing a SAK should look into the dangler type pocket clip that attaches to the keyring. I think i got a two pack of ultratac ones for $8. They make it great. I carry my hutsman in my left pocket with my wallet, my pocket knife in clipped to the right pocket with my phone, and my keys (with the leatherman style ps) clipped to a belt loop or in a bag. I keep a leatherman bond in my car console, but for edc, I rarely need more than what the huntsman, spyderco para 3 lw, and the style ps. Btw, i keep the style ps on my keys because I fly usually monthly and i can always have that with scissors, bottle opener and pliers without having to worry about TSA.
I carry the Recruit instead of the Cadet, but that can opener is my go to can opener.
I carried a Farmer for almost 15 years, both EDC and in the backcountry, and found it to be an extremely capable tool. Just this year I replaced it with a Hiker, which is a Tinker with a saw, and I think the Hiker is even better. I experiment with various tools, but this winter I've been packing just the Hiker and a Hatchet around the Canadian bush. These two tools, with the possible addition of a folding saw, can handle just about anything.
I’ve been current one for 45 years. And we’ll till I die.
The tip of the can opener is supposed to be small flat head AND 2D Phillips driver. Also to be fair the Leatherman bit driver is 50/50 when comes to children's toys recessed screws. My backup to my Leatherman is the SAK Explorer with the inline phillips.
I just recently added a SAK Fingernail clipper multitool to what I carry, it was the only thing from victorinox that added anything unique. I already carry a Hoto 4mm bit driver set, a skeletool, and an Emerson Kershaw knife.
TL;DW he doesnt need a SAK bc he has a bigger knife and a bigger multitool on him.
Yeah, fair. This isn't going to compete with either. For some people it's small enough that they'll be more likely it to edc it though.
I think that the big failure of multitool pliers is that when you have all the great tools in hand with your pricy one, but need the pliers on one side and the screwdriver on the other side, you just feel and look stupid :). So you need a combo. In my pocket for daily use, i keep the Victorinox explorer, less bulky and heavy than my M-pliers I keep as a backup in my bag. A Cadet instead would miss those wonderful Vic sak scissors, the corkscrew and the 3D Philips screwdriver in line (much more handy than the ones on a Tinker or the 2D of a Leatherman). Also have a the Vic Manager on my keyring, the perfect combo minitool for electronics or your toy's exercice in the vid. Concerning the can opener, it useful for me when the opening system fails with the mini handle off, instead of going on barbarian opening methods.
I appreciate the Swiss Army brand for their history and longevity. I recently purchased the Evoke lock back folder, but I haven't carried a Swiss Army multi tool since I was a kid. Leatherman is the answer for me
Not meant for keychain tinker deluxe has pilers has everything you'd need leatherman crapy scssiors sog dangerious with a plastic lock two plastic pins pin each side but it's totally up to u
I have to say I absolutly disagree.
I carried the cadet for about 10 years on my key (3 of them in 10 years to be correct).
And I realy like it. Its the backup thats allways with me and thats legal to carry basicly anywhere.
I also carry at least one other big blade, but in terms of social acceptance it is a lot better to use the Cadet.
I think it does everything well. The blaee cuts, the flathead ist very usefull also for a bit of prying, canopener works good, and the file is a NAILFILE a pretty good one to be honest and the thing on top is a nailcleaner not a screwdriver.
I have never seen someone complaining about a nailfile to be a bad screwdriver 😅
On top the alternatives you showed are way bigger and yea of course they have more tools, but they are also thicer, heavier and need more space on your keyring.
At least thats the way I see it.
I agree with you. I carry an old Leatherman PST and a SAK with a cork screw. Granted I will never open a bottle of wine because I don’t drink, but I have an eye glass screwdriver nested in the corkscrew. I also have cotton for fire tender. All covered by a plastic straw.
For your key chain, I would recommend the Rambler instead.
It has the same tools as the Classic SD, including the small but still awesome scissors, a screw driver at the end of the file, and a small 3D Phillips, which I believe should be perfect for the toys.
The Rambler is pretty small and light already, but if you can live without the small blade (I'm sure you can) and the file+SD, you can go for the Jetsetter. Same size as a Classic, but only with scissors + small Phillips (with bottle opener and wire stripper) and the scale tools of course.
I use the can opener as Phillip screw driver and it works great I have put stuff on wall with it and tighten and loosen screws when needed
It is clear that it does not meet your needs; but for my urban needs it's great, it doesn't scare people, and I use that can opener almost every day (I use it to peel oranges and open walnuts for my breakfast)
In my part of the world you will get away with a SAK over your edc knife any day.
Just because it doesn’t suit your edc doesn’t make it irrelevant.
What this video has done has highlighted the drawbacks of the YT knife reviewer - I could argue that a Leatherman Surge is the ultimate in edc because that’s my world during working hours but for the last 3 weeks I’ve had a Victorinox Tinker Deluxe on my belt and haven’t been lacking, if my world was hiking and camping I’d have a different selection.
I went with the pioneer and I agree it's a bit limited. Mine found a nice home in my tackle box, where I dont run into a lot of screw driving tasks and I already have a dedicated set of fishing pliers. It works well for light cutting (worms, fishing line, etc.) getting knots out of rope (with the reamer) and of course the occasional bottle cap.
I fully agree. I have always loved a SAK even when I was like 6 but ever since I bought my first multi-plier back in 1993. I have probably used all of my SAK's combined a total of like 2hrs of use since 1993. It's cool to see all the ideas and variations of one type of tool (SAK's) but they are out shined by these variations of the multi-plier imo.
I agree. I have tried carrying my Cadets and I find that I really just don’t use them. I already carry a folder or OTF along with a Leatherman Juice S2 or Wave+. The Cadet is just not that useful for me.
Hi ! Short information to the can opener . It happend more then 10 times ,that I pulled off the fucking ring . I' ve been happy ,to have a solution in my swiss knife . Greetings from Saxony-Anhalt , Germany .
Hello, they're basically for tinkering, not a good EDC choice, just say'n... Be safe and take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 🙏😇👊
It’s great for what it is: a tiny, classy knife for the office/light duty edc. I love the nail file, use the can opener more often than expected, and the blade is fine
finally someone said it. . . I have never found I end up using them its just not enough of anything
Put it in the pocket of your slacks, not your hiking pants....makes a difference.
My every day carry is a Victorinox Ambassador. It's got scissors, a nail file with a nail cleaner and a small blade good enough to open an envelope. It lives in my 5th pocket. A hung finger nail is the most threatening survival threat I face in my life :)
And the scissors where more than useful at the local party conference where we selected delegates for the upcoming elections to the EU parliament. I cut a lot of paper for the ballot :)
"Does anybody has scissors?" "Of cause I have scissors!"
I agree. The Cadet seems nicely built, and for some people it might handle what they deal with everyday,... but not for me. For something smaller, i have a Victorinox Classic Alox, because the scissors are phenomenal and the file screwdriver tip does most screws i meet everyday. For something bigger in pocket sometimes i carry a Victorinox Super Tinker, or Leatherman T4, both of which are great. Then at work i carry the Leatherman Curl. I just can't see where the Cadet would make any normal day better for me,... the closest i would get to it would be the Pioneer X, because scissors are essential for me.
I love the cadet as a backup knife tool I put in my coin pocket. I wish Leatherman would make the skeletool with a plain edge.(other than the cx). The serations are so aggressive and I really dislike them.😊
I believe you can buy blades from Leatherman, but I also agree that they should have more straight edge skeletool models
I used to just drop a tinker in my pocket but as my edc grew I decided to make a leather slip to hold my keys and knife(I’ve found I don’t need to carry a lot of keys so it worked great, later I made slip 1.2 with a slot for a small flashlight). Being in construction I always have “real” tools that are capable of doing jobs no multi tool is “built” for in my truck. For outside of work I run a hitch and timber waxed canvas slip with a slip joint and keys in one pocket with a pry bar/1/4” driver and bits in the other pocket. Unless I’m in the woods I’ve never “needed” pliers or scissors in daily life when there wasn’t a pair close by anyway. I still like my tinker and the small screwdriver could be easily improved by removing the blade for the can opener(in a pinch my pry bar could open a can). My only real complaint about SAKs is the steel quality, if your listening SAK ppl I’ll bet your knives would fly off the shelves with upgraded steel(not necessarily just the blade either, liners/drivers/pins too).
Although I have owned a Leatherman Wave from its inception, for it to be my EDC it is for me too bulky and heavy. Yes, I have a clip for it and a case, still it is bulky. For a long time my EDC is the SAK Huntsman, owned it a long time. If I were to purchase another EDC it would be the SAK Ranger. Here is an interesting observation, pull out the Leatherman folks give me strange looks, however pulling out the SAK folks do not blink and eye; just my personal observations. People have actually asked about it, in a very positive way, what tools, and the like.
I EDC 2 Leatherman tools every day, and have another in my tool kit on my wheelchair. I own a couple Swiss Army knives, but really they never get pocket time. I do really need the pliers, and often need to hold the back/nut of the bold I am tightening or loosening, hence the 2 full size tools. for people with less need for the full size tools, I really wish Leatherman would bring back the mini. I stopped carrying my mini, because I don't want to risk breaking or losing it. but it was a fantastic tool.
It's an urban minimalist edc. A nice back up tool. Nothing else . Not a primary tool.
The "i cant use locking blades" thing is mostly UK - so a minoryty in Europe and "NOGAF" wordwide
It's a good edc..maybe not for you, but too many ppl like the cadet..depends on what your doing.
The SAK I carry daily is the Manager. Pen, surprisingly good Phillips driver, scissors - good stuff. That plus the pocket knife of the day, and I'm good. The nicest thing about having a small SAK in an office setting is you can hand it to someone who needs a knife. It'll be enough, and they can open and close it most of the time with no problem.
I love my Manager. I was looking at getting a Rambler at the time and I discovered that the Manager was being discontinued, so I bought it instead. Probably my most used multitools, if I'm being honest.
If you need another good Pen model, try the tiny little Signature. The blade is miniscule but the file works, the Scissors too, and it's got the best pen of any Victorinox
The Cadet is solid but I like the Bantam and Tinker more.
After replacing the key ring with a smaller one (that they use on the 58 mm knives) and adding a P-7 type suspension clip, the Cadet is my super light weight summer carry - especially with running or basketball shorts! But I don't clip it to the pocket, I clip it to the waist band (on the inside). It's very secure, and I literally don't even notice it. It doesn't even weigh down my pocket at all.
(I don't like key rings on SAKs, especially on Alox, but it's great for a suspension clip carry.)
I’ve also started keeping my Leatherman Signal handy with 2x3 more bits instead of the survival attachments. I’m trying to figure out if I could swap out the saw for something more “front country” useful.
With the file the pointy bit can be used as a nail cleaner. Great video as always. I’m looking at the new magnacut leatherman and the the charge tti with s30v. I prefer the charge , but I’m thinking blade steel now . So I guess my question is , is magnacut really that much better than s30v ? . Happy new year. As a sort of non professional multi tool user, I must say I’ve never had a problem with victorinox steel, but I have found standard leatherman steel very brittle, so maybe it’s harder edge retention wise but is that always a good thing in a general purpose multi tool which may be quite springy and also has fantastic corrosion resistance? , I really can’t knock vic steel
I can only carry this one in conjunction with the Classic SD because of the scissors, toothpick and tweezers.
Great video thanks. What works best for you is what you like and should use. The CyberTool M or 34 could fill the nich you have if your preference is a SAK depending on the size of plyers making a difference. Of course I EDC a Leathermen Rebar and the Swiss Champ XLT as I always have a bet on even when swimming.
I carry a Swiss D04 or a full size Tinker a lot of times. Augment these with some sort of Mora.
I love the cadet I use it all the time on Phillip screws flat screws and the blade works great and I even use the file for fingernails
The cadet is a great knife for a cubicle dweller.
I saw a pocket clip on the Tinker. Where did you get that ? That’s cool!
my main pocket knife for office job edc is a Victorinox tinker. I used to carry a leatherman every day, but I found I didn't use the pliers enough to warrant the extra bulk and weight, so I switched to the tinker and I love it. When I'm in the woods the tinker still comes along, but so do a mora and a leatherman wingman. sometimes the tinker is replaced by a Victorinox ranger 55 though. As a scouter, it's good to have the smaller knife like a tinker or fieldmaster so I can show kids how to get a lot of stuff done with something they're more likely to carry.
If you can get some hemostats from a hospital or Amazon those work well as pliers. I keep some in my car and first aid kit
Multi-tools with pliers are great I own several Leatherman multi-tools wingman just a name one but Swiss army can do a lot of things around the campsite that you may need it's always good in a survival situation to have a decent working can opener you never know if you are stuck in a natural disaster and you need something this can do a lot of things around the campsite or around your house if your electricity goes out now is Swiss army my first go to no but I believe everyone should have at least a couple of these they're not bad for the price I love Leatherman and that's always good to have that they always say one is none two is one three is just right
Carry a skelitool daily, love the tinker but just don’t carry it for the same reason you already said, I use the pliers the most.
It's a pearce knife. Victorinox makes a knife that will fill your needs just pick one .
OG Soldier 1961 with a classic SD on keys is absolute minimum EDC could manage a war with.
SD classic has longer reach and can do phillips and flats everytime.
Yes powerpint does it ALL and can remove the blade/s to travel.
I have carried a Leatherman Skeletool for almost 20 years. I love it.
Try adding a Key Smart pocket hook to your EDC SAK.
I work in an office setting and have small kids. The victorinox rambler lives on my keychain and gets use daily.
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I fully agree a pliers based multitool just has more utility. I have 4-5 different SAKs models. I also own 3-4 Leatherman models, a Gerber Centerdrive and a Toler Union. Whether stripping wire to solder to a circuit board, working on a car, fixing toys, or using while hiking; I use my tools a lot. Since I too carry a dedicated pocket knife, the knife on my multitool is a backup, so pliers are a must.
My Wenger Swiss Army Knife is my EDC (can't wear any kind of sheath/pouch for work), and it has the minimum implements for that role... Philips, awl, saw, scissors...in addition to the main blade, bottle opener/flat screwdriver, can opener and nail file. With a little ingenuity, it handles 99%+ of my needs. I occasionally also carry a Gerber Multiplier 600 on my belt, but will likely reach for the Wenger first unless it's clear that I need the pliers.
I have a video suggestion: Do a review on the Wuben X3 Owl flashlight 🔦
I just might
Hi Aaron.
Yes, you've raised an interesting dilemma! I've grappled with it for years, and have resorted to the only solution that works for me. I use them interchangeably and often both together!
Why? Well, for starters, when in a work, urban or sometimes travel environment the tool that has a full size pliers is obviously more useful. However, when it domes to outdoors, hunting, hiking, etc the usefulness of the pliers is much less, so then the SAK comes into its own.
I once managed a printing/stationery facility, and in that environment I liked having my Leatherman Wave on me, as I used it often. But I found that the other tools that my 4-layer Victorinox (I forget the model) had were of better quality. For example, I hardly ever used the Leatherman scissors (only when I had no SAK), as they were just too fiddly and didn't work even nearly as well. Similarly, the SAK awl/reamer is clearly in a class of its own - no other one comes close. One of the things I also dislike about the Wave is the sharp edges on the corners. Gripping it tightly rather hurts the hand and is very uncomfortable, whereas the SAK is loads more comfortable. Also, accessing the Wave's tools involves unfolding the tool and the closing it again after deploying the tool one wants. This is very fiddly, and I don't like it much. Lastly the Wave is much heavier than my 4-layer SAK, and needs a pouch to wear on the belt. I carry my SAK on a lanyard hanging inside my trouser pocket - very convenient.
Screwdrivers: hmmm. Judging from the video and the uses you describe, I'd be inclined to have suitable screwdrivers available anyway for those specific applications. For things like hobbies, technical environments, sports equipment, etc it's just so easy to have the right running gear with that application in the kit it comes with. Working on a car? These days one needs a bloody laptop rather than a Wave!! I wouldn't have the expertise required anyway!
So, for me the main thing for us is the outdoors application. For decades I've carried my faithful Swiss Champ, and it's still going strong. However, if I had to buy a multi-tool knife today, I think I'd go for the Hercules. Sure it's bigger/heavier, but it's also much more functional. Paired with my Cold Steel Trail Master, it is a really nice set-up, but it lacks something in the middle- a bushcrafting specialist knife. The Hercules can do quite a bit, but if one should want to do more specialist tasks like serious carving, cutting, notching etc one needs something a lot better. Currently the Victorinox Venture Pro is enjoying my attention more and more, as I really like the Victorinox philosophy towards knives and their use. I'm also a great admirer of Felix Immler and his exploits, books an videos.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on my comments.
The Cadet is not a EDC in your area, but in Metro Milwaukee, WI...it's perfect...knife to to cut, file.tip clean your nails. Open bottle, basic screw driver...CADET IS IS COLLECTIBLE...ALOX, LIGHTWEIGHT...COLORS.
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CARRY IN POCKET SLEEVE...PERFECT FOR MORE CITY..URBAN....ETC
Try the de Luxe Tinker.... pliers, Philipps screwdriver and the normal set of vic's tools.
I carried a Leatherman wave in my pocket with a custom pocket clip for years. Didn't find it cumbersome at all. But my daily life didn't find it necessary because of a change in my job. Now I carry my wave on my belt if I'm hiking camping, hunting or fishing. On top of my every day pocket knife, and usually a dedicated fixed blade which all depends on what activity I'm doing. Still own my swiss army knife that I've had since I was a kid. But it doesn't get much use anymore.
My choice in SAK is the Explorer,no doubt about it!!Size,weight and the combination of tools are perfect to me!!
Agree but don't really think of that one of a multi-tool. They have have others.
I live in Canada, and I LOVE my Leatherman Skeletool CX.
Love the review. I have several SAK’s including the Cadet and it hasn’t found a place in my EDC yet. However neither has the Leatherman for the exception of the Style PS (the TSA compliant one) no knife and has everything you need for traveling. Wish other companies made something like it.
I EDC a Surge with screwdriver extender.
Its my EDC for my office environment. I use it quite frequently.
To be honest I have a Leatherman in my Car but a Cadet in my pocket in a leather Caddy with a space bullet pen and a small flashlight in my front pocket. My main Blade is either a 940, a Bugout, Para 2, or a Small Sebenza 21 and I have Belt Sheath for all of them never sharing pocket space. Since I work in an office and most of my cutting is minor things such as unboxing or opening mail I use the Cadet. It is also less intimidating in public around strangers at lunch time pealing an apple. I do own a Tinket as well but since it's a lot heavier I gravitate towards the Caddy with the Cadet.
I would say it depends on your daily routine but nothing is permanent in my EDC I am always adjusting. The only thing that has not changed for a decade is my G-Shock DW model with Nato Straps.