I Almost Gave Up On This CHEAP UTV ($3000 Mistake)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- I buy an Odes Dominator 800 UTV and rebuild it. #Odes, #800cc #sidebyside,
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It's hard to believe such a critical part was made out of plastic. Great work Joe.
Yeah I couldn't believe it
Fairly common. The oil pump and water pump gears on the Vstrom/SV650 are plastic and my Vstrom has over 125,000 miles without any issue. This is not a new thing either. The timing gears on the old Ford straight 6 were plastic to reduce noise.
I have a Kawasaki engine on my lawn mower that has a plastic cam gear. That works out about as well you would think too.
you'd be amazed how many big power engines use plastic gears and give you service intervals when they should be changed , just another consumable part to keep the $$$$ rolling in . and it makes less noise than metal against metal
Small Block Chevies had/have plastic timing gears from 60's up... The tales were that it made the engine quieter....
Nothing goes with scrambled eggs and coffee like a good engine teardown. Seeing joe frustrated is like extra syrup on the pancakes
Lol!
Good going. You should always put some grease on the puller threads, plus some heat on the clutch would help it pop off.
I was going to say heat it up too. But then it came off i was like...WHEW! He got it LOL
you need too use a bigger hammer would help to
Joe you need to add a Ductor induction heater to your tool set.
First, love the channel, have been watching it since you were popping wheelies in your parents' yard. Two, you have the knowledge and patience, to work on the problem. Third, never a total loss, stripe it down, using the frame as a foundation - build it better, stronger, faster
One word for the clutch pull debacle - HEAT!!!
I really admire you Joe, not afraid to jump in and split cases on an engine you've never worked on before, most guys would say f#@k this and bring it to a shop. Good on you brotha 👍🏻
@2vintage, I'm gonna be honest I didn't think you would ever get that clutch to come off, tenacity wins again way to go. It's amazing what one can accomplish when using a quality tool👨🏾🔧
Chris.
Glad you didn't give up on this machine.
You use chrome sockets on an impact?
You're braver than I am.
You 've got to love the Carpenter Hammer. Ball Peen Hammers must cost a fortune!
Or a mini sledge.
That's right Joe, take your time so we get more videos😅
I've never seen a clutch take that much to get off. At one point I figured something was going to snap. You have more patience than I do! Nice job!
I'm probably wrong but I feel like your second piston was installed backwards. both intakes will sit in the center therefore the exhaust side would be facing away from the transmission on cylinder 2 so the arrow should be facing away from the center also if its supposed to face the exhaust.
I caught same thing.. Hope someone else did as well... Also use lot of assembly lube.. Its your friend.. Dont be afraid to use to much...
You should oil the cylinder before putting the piston in. Don’t put an aluminum gear in unless you do the rest of them too. Aluminum gears will chew apart the plastic gears.
One thing i would've done differently was oit assembly lube on the rod bearings cause now they will dry start
the two different gasket thing is for different year engines, some take thicker/thinner gaskets for squish clearance or something along the lines.
Nicely done 👏👏💪. The crank failure is a big reason why the clutch was almost welded from the 🔥🔥🌡. 89% would've gave up including me & parted it out 😔 lol. Truly a nice job & wonder if they make a metal gear upgrade to correct a major flawed design 🤔. Thanks for sharing the awesome progress. I have faith in your skill set 🙆👍. Salute 🎬😎✌️
Chrome sockets are cheap for using as impact sockets..He do es awesome work with what he has..
Next time try water or oil. Fill it, Teflon tape the bolt real good, then impact it. I use this method to pop generator rotors off the crankshafts. Works pretty well.
I am really proud of you brother you’ve come a long way. I remember your first videos getting so much criticism and crap. Now you’re someone everybody should look up to.
I like your idea of finding a metal gear. I see a lot of manufacturers going the “plastic” route for cost savings. They just need it to make the warranty period. After that, all bets are off. Plus now they get sell the parts or dealer gets the job. Shame how companies have cheapened engineering.
Next time you have a stubborn primary clutch fill the hole the puller goes into with grease. The grease causes hydraulic pressure and the clutches will pop right off with an impact.
We use water and Teflon tape on our sleds, same idea less mess just need to make sure to get the water out when finished.
I like your thinking with the rebuild. Cudos on clutch removal, I was getting worried, that it was not going to come.
Can you say another Rinse and Repeat video, check points, check compression, check spark, change plug and don't forget to clean the project up.🤣
I’m thinking you need two rods and a crankshaft. I doubt that you can find someone to turn the crank, but then you need over sized bearings that they probably don’t make.
Never use a aluminum socket for impact very dangerous it can split in to sharpnels always use the black sockets rated for high torque also always ware safety glasses!!
Never seen a clutch that stuck. But the whole time I’m watch you wrestle with that thing I’m thinking would have heated the snot out of that inner sheave before using that much pressure. But you finally got it!
I was always taught never being a hurry never take your time Make sure everything is correct and perfect then you don't have to do it a second time I'm happy to wait for the next video it's really interesting watching you take that apart and put it back together that is actually a marvel of engineering the way they interacted everything to make it work thank you for the video you got you have a great day and I hope everything is going good for you
I'll never understand why someone would put plastic gears in an engine, for any reason. Good idea to take your time. Looks like it's going good. Thanks for sharing.
Plastic is the weak link. lol .
I fixed a CBR1000rr that had a bearing that spun like that, and I had to put a new oil pump in it because the old one was all scored up from all the metal debris going through it.
You ruined the clutch with the wrong puller in the first video
Next time heat that clutch up with a tourch if your doing a bottom end anyways just put hella heat to it an it would pop rite off . It may melt crank seals but your doing the bottom end anyways
If I ever need a ATV engine rebuilt I will contact you lol, great job on all your projects Sir, very impressed! Looking forward to see this one breath fire.
very important to change you oil according to manufacturers recommendation oil is alot cheaper than a rebuild ore new one
My Dad taught me, do it right the first time and you’ll save yourself a lot of extra work. Doesn’t always work that way but I try ! You are a perfectionist and your results prove that.
If you look back on your first video, when you removed the cylinder jug, you remarked that it was dry of oil around the crank. That was the sign of no oil or low oil pressure. Who would have thought that they would put a plastic gear to run the oil and water pump. Cheap i guess . Being in the trade, i was as curious as you to get to the problem. Great vid, thks.
Good morning big guy how about going the opposite direction pushing the force down
Excited to see this one brought back from the dead! Keep at it!
Keep grinding bro this isbthe right way
That was some intense watching getting the pully off.🆒😎👍💪!
You have to call that UTV Tyson bc it put up such a tough fight!
Nice work. Progress looking good.
Are you going to repaint the frame while you have the engine out?
Make this thing look the part. $ 💰✨🎞️
QUALITY WORK/and check that ring gap-PROFESSIONAL /you are building a NEW ENGINE /was the new cylinder cross honed /did you take a course on mechanics any where/i just read ALL kinds of books/learn by doing too/a big nice too you/thanks much
Hey Joe. I dropped a comment on you FB post in the odes owners group but I just had time to finish watching this video. I have rebuilt a few of these motors & they definitely are cheap & a little different. But stay away from that aluminum gear like another comment said & I believe you put the piston in backwards on cylinder #1. The exhaust is on the front side of the motor on cylinder #1 & the back side/ transmission side of cylinder #2 which you installed correctly. Nest of luck with the wonder odes build. I have a few videos on my channel Limitless powersports service & repair of a few newer odes I have had in my shop. But of luck my friend.
The Clutch Thingy that Kicked Booty Dang man Ok A Bit of Grease on the Tip of the Puller where it hits the Crank and Some Lube On the Threads of the Puller and when you get it ran down and Whacked with the Hammer Throw Some Heat on it and TING Wah Lah
This episode: Joe versus the clutch pulley!!
Great job thus far. What a massive undertaking.
Crazy work compared to other small engines
there is a easier way to take those rods off leave the bolts in half way and tap them to release the rod and cap. way better than possibly damaging the rod itself
Same exact thing happened to my OG 2016 Can-Am maverick. The teeth on that gear broke off and I lost oil pressure. I got lucky on mine, I didn’t have to pull the engine out just the clutch and side cover to replace the oil pump and gear. Mine shut off when I lost oil pressure. This off brand machine you bought didn’t shut off. Those bearings look like they were in there a long time without oil lol
Having a plastic gear to drive the oil and water pump saving the company a few bucks per engine just about guarantees the customer will hate Odes for life, never buy an Odes product again and tell everyone they meet to avoid like the plague, great work Odes engineers and accountants you did it!