I've learned that if you play by the "survivor rule book" the survivors get toxic and teabag at you. I've even had survivors message me to say I sucked after they won because I played "fair".
Tbh first time I played i was told by people to play but their rulebook but because how I am I went to look at the rule and all that and I said oh look at this it says that there no rulebook and from there on j just kept how I wanted to if I had a bad game last round I'd tunnel the next to just realse my anger on someone and then just go back to playing normally
I used to play nice as a killer all the time because I know how much it sucked being tunneled when I played survivor… but not I stopped caring 😂 I’m tunneling/slugging if I need to
Is very rare when you play nice and fairly and got a GG from survivors...but when it happens feels so good. I played a silent wraith in lery with devour...they couldn't find the totem...but I hooked them twice and then apply the mori...they sent me respects and were wholesome.
Funny enough, Blood Warden is the one perk I can't really be mad at. I just go 'Oh...' and laugh. Especially since it takes a lot of effort to get Blood Warden to work, and when it does work it's beautiful.
Yeah, bloodwarden only works a small percentage of the time so idk why people get so mad when killers run it 🧍♂️ It just sucks as a survivor, but isn’t that the point?
That’s exactly what I was thinking, had a killer catch me and three others with it during the end game and we all died cause of the timer. Gotta be honest, it was shitty way to die but damn that killer played it right and earned it!
My fave thing is sparing someone who I can TELL has been struggling, but like ,as Ghostface. Easier to tell if the Killer is friendly if they're doing a million squats in 2 seconds.
I have to admit, when I first started watching your videos, I really disagreed with your attitude when it came to slugging/tunneling/camping. But the longer I watch you and the more I actually listen to your reasoning, the more I understand. And you're 100% right in this video...if the survivors can and should play as efficiently as possible, then the same goes for killer. Everything else is pure entitlement, just as it was with me back then, when I despised slugging/tunneling/camping without understanding the reason behind all of that!
absolutely unreal, no, unfathomable. what are you talking about? good survivors obviously bum rush for saves and take a gillion hits when it's completely uneccesary
its ridiculous how people dont get this lmao Like why are you running the killer around the hooked person. If the killer sees me going for the hook they are going to change targets. And thats not "camping" the killer has 0 reason to leave the hooked area if everyone is there. But Some survivors are just....ugh
@cherrydoll nobody cares about your dumb unwritten rule. If you have Hooked a survivor and you know their teammates are lurking around the hook for a fact, there is nothing wrong with staying there and trying to flush them out. A killer that leaves a survivor on the hook while he knows the team is right there trying to get him off is a dumb killer.
I've had too many games where I play fair and 3 hook everyone just to get that one cocky survivor that tbags me at the exit gate even though I'm clearly holding back, and then after that says GGEZ like I didn't just purposely meme on them so they can get a free escape.
-Has 2 hooks on them -Barely even touched a single gen -Hid more than did gens or helped -Every teammate died before the last gen -Barely escaped through RNG GG, too EZ!!
I had a trickster recently saying ggez for no reason.And I agreed with him that is ez mindless spam killer for gamers that like things "ez" and don`t want to git gut.
I was playing customs with a few friends the other day, and all I was playing when it was my turn to play killer was huntress because I wanted to hit cross maps and trick shots. Two games go by of me playing killer and both times I got terrible maps for cross maps, so I tell my friends when it’s my turn again that I want to play on cold wind because those maps are good for that. That’s all I asked for, and they said that’s fine so I brought the offering. There was nothing wrong with me simply wanting to have fun with huntress. It would’ve been fun for everybody. When it was time for the match, one of my friends brought an ormond offering, knowing that all I wanted was to play huntress on cold wind and that I had been waiting to do that for nearly an hour at that point. So I told them that since they brought the offering, if we did get ormond, I wasn’t gonna hold back or give any second chances. I was gonna play for the win. I absolutely shit on them, the guy who brought the offering who always acts like he’s the best player there, just because every single game he sweats his balls off even though it’s a custom, was very pissed. That was the first time I had actually played for the win against these people, and he was mad about it because I had the audacity to win a match against him. He played killer next even though it wasn’t his turn. He played nurse, and he claims to once have been one of the top 100 nurses at one point even though he’s never stepped foot into the competitive scene. I decided to not mess around at all, and long story short, we won, and he lost. I still can’t believe he got mad at me that game for “camping gens”. I was just staying near a gen that was almost complete so I could let it regress a bit even though I didn’t have ruin. So yeah that guy sucks ass and every game he’s played with me since, he’s tried to prove that he’s better than me and just ended up looking like a dumbass.
@@joyfulleader5075 Yeah he was mainly pissed because he thought he was better than me because every time I played killer, I would hold back to make the game fun. But that time I didn’t hold back and 4ked them in like 3 minutes.
Someone got mad at me for slugging with twins... When they were both injured and crowding together. And it wasn't even for a long period, I switched to Charlotte and headed right to them and hooked them both...
In the first game: I really dont see why they would get mad other than "grrr I lost". You played Oni efficiently and slugged to maintain your power. It was a normal ass Oni win
You have to make sure I have fun. That's why. Sad, but true. Honestly, most killers are zero fun to play against. They. Are. Trying. To. Kill. You! Kinda thought that was the point, lol. XD Artist main, and I still play survivor when my friends are on. I am dog water at it, but we still have fun. Unless the killer is an obvious pos (hooking me and just staring at me till I die, for example), then I just assume I got outplayed. *shrug*
We all get salty but literally being racist/homophobes over a game that has no effect in your real life is absolutely wrong no matter how scummy someone else played. Unfortunately most people dont care about being scummy to others over DBD 😕
@@pvzfan4208 everything is wrong with homophobia AND racism. Imagine judging and hating someone based off their skin color or the person they love. Both which we cant control. Everything about their reactions were cringe.
slugging is a something that is considered by the devs. there are perks made for this. the entire reason you can recover from being downed is if the killer slugs you. that is the fundamental reason behind Unbreakable's existence. slugging is a fair strat that someone, as a survivor, should consider. same thing with tunneling and hook/proxy camping. those are things that survivors can take advantage of.
survivors will dead ass defend body blocking and gen rushing as strategies to win but the second a killer slugs or end game camps suddenly it’s not ok like ??
Espcially when certain killers are built around slugging. Oni, Twins, Myers to an extent, even Plague a bit. The killers that have limited powers with huge spikes
@@becca-de6so body blocking is a fundamental part of playing survivor especially if you don’t have BT, I agree about gen rushing tho unless it’s last gen. Much smarter to split up and work on gens individually
That dude should maybe go touch some grass he probably has 5000 hours on fortnite and 1000 on dbd and thinks because he's a survivor main killers should follow the imaginary rulebook or your breaking a law from all 50 states (idk why I said fortnite but oh well)
@@sherellwhite3624 it was a joke you know to much time on a game I was gonna list off more and nothing wrong with fornite just using it as a example because when I last played fortnite everyone was playing like it was world championship and to get that good you probably had to spend almost 24/7 on a game to get that good and waste day on end getting good at one game meaning he that they never gone out side to smell the fresh air, see the sunlight and touch some grass trying to make a metaphor
@@sherellwhite3624 A lot that's over 200 days if some played non stop fortnite, nobody should be playing games for that long, it's unhealthy for ur mental and physical health.
Played as Infinite tier 3 Michael with tombstone once and had NOED just as a precaution if I didn’t get tier3 right away. I was rather lazy that match, calm and collective, until they began tbaggin and clicking lights. I didn’t mind at first til it was repetitive, so the gates were unlocked and the survivors decide to just go into the basement and jump in and out of lockers. The satisfaction I got from downing one while in tier 2, hooked them and activated blood warden. Tier 3 pops and they’re all nervous now, running to that one gate! Then had the audacity to message me with homophobic slurs and racial slurs, smh. They even said to kill myself, why are ppl so cruel?
14:44 its so nice to see that other killers want survivors to keep their items when they let them live Honestly when I’m playing survivor i love hoarding items And I understand that sometimes when you wanna live, you will give up a great item And im not about that as killer you take it if i let you escape I will sit there and swing at the item as they stare at me, until they pick it up
i put it down as a thank you 🤣 but when im playing killer i hate when they put it down when i let the survivor escape too so it makes no sense either way
I wish people would realize IT'S A GAME. Nothing to seriously get tilted by especially when it results into racism and homophobia. I'm a survivor main (Yui mostly) and can't tell you the number of times I've been face camped, proxy camped, tunneled, ect. I just look at it as the killers play style especially considering it's a 4 v 1 game. I take my L and move on to the next match. Simple.
@@F.P.E.7211 homophobia and racial slurs are just "words"??? Words that were used to hold communities and ethnicity into oppression still to this day are just "words"??? You're a major part of the problem 😒
@@dparker8929 Nobody cares yall community is forcing an agenda. People were born with principles and morals and you are no person to tell another person with their beliefs that they are are wrong. You cannot be straight anymore with people canceling you🤷🏻♂️ and with your methods of convincing myself and people like me its not going to work cause we were born like this and its engraved into our beings.
Something I love is the silent camera motion dialogue between killers and survivors, no matter how many bullying swfs I get as killer those fun solo queue survivors make it worth it in my opinion.
I keep getting told I'm bad for using a top tier uncounterable killer I'm pyramid head and ghostface main they're strong yh but I don't see myself as an uncounterable force
@@-skeptix- nope. Every killer has a counter. Killers need to make reads to stop survivors but it always depends on who makes the right read from both sides.
Dude, don’t let these people get in your head. Play anyway you want. If they have issues they can take that up with the Developers. If you wanna end a game fast and get less blood points that’s your choice. The same applies to people Gen rushing and skipping totem cleanses; which is HALF of the game that people forget about. Which is why survivors RARELY get over 20,000 blood points in a match that can potentially award them 32,000. You’re amazing, and don’t ever let anyone make you feel bad, especially over a GAME!
7:09 I started laughing as the camera zoomed in on your face, you looked like: uhhhhhh what'd I do wrong? lmao. Wanted to say, great content, amazing channel, I follow you on Twitch and I look forward to watching more of you. I found your channel maybe two days ago and just started watching, I 100% agree with your philosophy on killers and survivors. Killers should be able to do most of the stuff they get called out for because that's how you win, and survivors can do gens, they just rush the hooks and that's how they die. Anyways, just wanted to say: amazing channel, love you and your philosophy keep it up man 👌
To quote good ole Bricky, "Remember this game is played how you want to play it. No made up honor code and no rules, play to win but most of all have fun!"
I mean no ones actually afraid of the gheys...hence homophobia the word has no meaning. (Was trying my hand at a defense, OP seemed like he was issuing a challenge). Because who really is gunna defend someone calling someone else the F word in a insulting way. Believe it or not my ghey friends use that word like african americans use the N word to each other. (Im not saying i condone it, just stating a fact of my expierences)
@@F.P.E.7211words have meaning. just because someone's offended by, you know, a word made specifically to punch down on their identity, doesn't make them soft. dumbass take
Oh this is the perfect place to tell about the game I had a bit ago. I was in a discord server with friends streaming and one wanted me to play scratched mirror myers so I do that and go to the RPD map with essentially no perks (only terror radius perks) and What I meet is a 4 man swf that go into the upstairs library and sit there all 4. If I run up to stab them they run around and it takes forever to catch them, they all had balanced, they all Soulguard and then different combinations of unbreakable, tenacity, flipflop and breakout, and they used offerings to spawn hooks further apart. So if I downed one, i couldn't get them anywhere in time, and they'd eventually recover and have soulgard or their friends to take hits. Eventually some spilt out and did gens, and I ended up having one bleed out on the floor and one hook kill, but the match took around 40min and it was just so soulcrushing. Could I have done something different?
God that sounds painful, I don't know if it would work but I'd say the best thing you could of done is not partisapate and just make the match as boring/painful for them as they made it for you. They can't bully you around the library area if your not there.
even though I don't play DBD I strongly relate to this do to me playing similarly hated playstyles in other casual games and watch this channel for the relatability
@@spooknjukes9886 I don’t think you play survivor enough. I play both but I mainly play survivor, and throughout my games, I’ve gotten constant homophobic slurs and racist comments left on my steam profile that I have to delete. I think it’s bad for both sides but it’s always the survivors taking the heat for most of it.
@@spooknjukes9886 also I don’t do that as survivor and I still get shit for no reason. It’s the fact that you do that and expect to get salty reactions from the killer. I guess I play to play the game, not to get salty reactions out of other players
@@onyxia0003 you can “think” I don’t play survivor all you want. If you watched my Twitch, you would know that I do. I was a survivor main before playing both sides. Now, you’re just making stuff up lol I literally said I click and tbag “so that the killer will chase me” and you put words in my mouth saying that I do it for salty reactions. You either can’t read or REALLY want to spin your narrative.
@@spooknjukes9886 Okay, so keep doing that, but you can't get mad or be filming people's "salty" reactions because they were t-bagging or flashlight clicking maybe so for the same reason. Your content is literally just people's salty reactions hence why I choose not to watch a lot of your videos/streams
It’s made it’s way to yt comment sections now! You can’t even explain someone’s gameplay or what they were most likely trying to do without people freaking out on you and telling you you’re mad...?? It’s mind blowing at this point
He likes easy games i get that. But i wish he learns the fun of improving, instead of being carried by perks, camping and tunneling. In the end he can play how he likes, if all he wants is kills.
As a survivor main, I too believe everyone can play however they want. I mean sure I get a bit annoyed when the killer slug or camp but it is what it is, if that's how they play, then there's really not much you can do about it. As long as they're having fun. Also thank you for reporting that person calling you the f-slur. As someone who's openly bi, I feel like sometimes people don't realize how hurtful that word actually is towards people who are bi, gay, etc. So once again, thank you. Love your content man!
Your games as killer goes two ways. The first way you play to win. Which may involve a little camping or tunneling, the possible slug happens. At the end of the match you are called everything in the book by the survivors. Or you play "fair" by "fair" I mean in accordance with the survivor handbook of play. You get like 3 hooks, maybe a bbq stack if you're lucky. And you get the awesome teabagging, locker and pallet spamming, and my personal favorite the flashlight clicking at the exit gates.
My favorite is when you hook someone, and another survivor is unhooking while you’re standing there… you drop them and they claim you’re camping… wtah?!
I only ever play killer when I need to do a daily challenge since I have majority of the killers, but other then that it's stressful, specially when they're toxic towards you.
I haven't played DBD for that long, but I learned a lot through watching videos. I do a bit of both but haven't found my niche yet, I mostly play survivor but still learning. At first I was pretty much an entitled survivor as well. I got hella salty any time I got tunneled or proxy camped- but chose to ignore that we gen rushed or that I just wasn't good at looping or keeping the killer busy. Watching SpooknJukes' videos though kind of put things into perspective for me. I realized that 'yeah, if we gen rush and the killer has zero kills- it's a valid strategy for the killer to gain control back over the match'. It also really helped when I do play killer. I always went out of my way not to tunnel or proxy camp, even when the survivors literally rushed to hook to get their friend off. However, learning that 'when I play killer, I can have fun too and it's not up to me to make it fun for survivors'- really changed how I play killer, too. I'm not saying I insta tunnel or camp, but if they gen rush and 3 gens pop within 2 minutes, then yeah.. you betcha I'm going to tunnel. I also got flamed a lot in chat when playing killer and using NOED or when I play 'fairly' (to the survivors standards). I've learned to just laugh at it, or simply turn off chat post game. I'm not playing to get upset, I'm playing for fun.
Playing both sides really made me realise there are entitled people no matter what you play. When I played a meme build on bubba (hoarders, franklins, mad grit and agitation) with no addons on rpd (they brought me there), I ended up with a 4k with 2 gens remaining. One of them got mad at me for 'camping the hook' when I was running around the room with the long table with the Kate who I had found there straight after I had hooked someone. I ended up losing the kate and when I went to check a gen I saw someone going for the unhook so I followed and they proceeded to unhook directly in my face. So naturally I downed them both, slugged the person who had originally been on the hook and hooked the unhooker. I slugged them so I didn't get them out the game too fast and so they wouldn't be able to go and do a gen. To me it was a smart thing to do and kind of nice but for some god damn reason this person got mad at me for it. Yesterday I met a nice streamer and ended up duo queueing with someone from his chat. We had a nemesis face camping from 3 gens which is whatever. Duo ends up going and trading with the person who was on hook. Now most people know not to save when someone's being face camped unless you have 2 people otherwise you're just trading which doesn't really help anything. I was dead set on not trading because it seemed like a stupid thing to do at 3 gens especially since I had a challenge I needed to escape to do. Person I queued with ended up dying and we did all the gens and escaped because nemesis didn't win another chase after that. The two randoms and I had ran him pretty much all game when one of them made a mistake and got hooked. Yes 1 person died but we got 3 out because we didn't trade. I tried to explain it to the person I queued with but they got mad because I didn't trade and let myself be face camped because 'I wOuLD hAve sAVed yOU'. We both knew no, he wouldn't or he would've tried and we would've both been dead. I tried to do it stealthily which would've been a smarter move than just straight up trading and I failed. Since he knew I was there I wouldn't have been able to trade anyway because he would've grabbed me off. No matter how I tried to explain it this person was mad for a whole TWO HOURS because I refused to swap with them. Basically he wanted me to die so he could escape. He called me a coward multiple times and I was so done with him at that point.
The problem is the BHVR devs have set a tone that killers are here to amuse survivors. It's infuriating. I get so tired of hearing "Well, we changed this because it wasn't fun for survivors to play against..." What is fun for survivors? Free wins and tea bagging? Why don't we ever hear 'Well, that wasn't fun for killers so..."?
Bro I 1,000,000% agree with you I literally can’t get over how many times they’ve done that with survivors and have only done once maybe twice for killers but hey, it only matters when the survivors are having fun
Spooks did say in the intro that he reported the salty guy, and was later notified by PSN that they took action. You can probably guess what they meant by that...
Even if you "play this way to get these reactions", who cares? Despite what survivor extremists may think, there is no rulebook the killer has to play by. He is not there to make sure their games are amusing, he is not there to make sure everyone gets a lot of blood points, he's there because the person who is playing him wants to play the game and be amused themselves. However they want to do that is up to them. There are enough systems in place and second chance perks and things like the hatch that it is almost impossible to "ruin" a game for survivors. If a game is ruined for a survivor or survivor team it's because they let it be ruined by being salty that the killer wasn't playing by whatever imaginary set of guidelines they have in their head. If people have a serious problem with something in the game, take it up with BHVR not the player(that goes for killers and survivors, IMO). Everyone plays the game to have fun and they all have to abide by the actual rules and guidelines set forth by BHVR. Everything else is imaginary.
While it is true that u play a game to amuse yourself, what is wrong with adapting a playstyle so its amusing for everybody? I am a main survivor and i dont really care if i win or lose. But i can tell u that there are not enough systems to counter getting tunneled. First chase, first hook, seconde chase maybe bt, maybe d strike, seconde hook, again maybe bt or d strike, but what now. Ofc it takes along time and chances are high that the other 3 survivors a just genrushing and leave. And the game is not ruined for that one poor survivor because he got salty. Its because he had no chance. And i dont think that the dev team can do anything about it. Its just a playstyle some killers like to play I feel like not camping or tunneling is just an act of good sportsmanship, the same as not "teabagging" is. If u compare it to football(soccer for the us) where u could really have an advantage when someone lays on the ground injured. Do they keep playing and potentialy score goal. In most cases the answer is no. And that desicion could cost the team millions of euros. Why cant we have good sportsmanship in a videogame we all play just for fun? Btw I watched some of spookes videos and i find the argument that the survivors have things like "Brand New Parts" or GenPerks, so u can tunnel or camp kinda weak. I dont think u should compare the ressources the game gives u to a playstyle . I dont think its to hard for a killer to counter a Genrush. Corrupt Intervention is one thing that comes to my mind. I dont really like the No one escape death perk, but if a killer has it so be it. Ruin and Undying compo is annoying as hell, but is a legit strat that can be countered and for me thats the most importend point. If I lose but i know i had the chance to win with my team and not have to leave someone behind because the killer just happend to get him and guarded him like he is the "One Ring" I dont care. I write gg wp in the aftergame chat and start the next game. But if I just have to Genrush to get out of that boring quicktime sim where i fix gens all day or stare in bubbas ugly leatherface I may get a little bit upset and dont write gg wp. And u can tell me whatever u want but i dont think that u can counter facecamping or tunneling by a really good killer
@@WoWTairy I'll just say this; you're entitled to your opinion. However, when survivors start adjusting their playstyle for killers I'll start thinking about doing the same. Have you EVER seen a game where survivors banged out 3 gens in a minute and a half and said "We should really give the killer some hooks..." No, you have not. That makes any other points moot, IMO.
@@TheZombiegenesis actually i do that. But first let me say this. Getting 3 Gens done after a minute and a half is certainly applying a lot of pressure to the killer. But u have the ressources to prevent that and they are not tunneling and facecamping. With stage 3 Corrupt Intervention there are only 4 Gens to guard for the first 2 min and they are the closest to u. Dont like CI, fine. U can pressure those gens that are close to each other to force the survivors to 3 gen themself. Some killers like Hag, Trapper or Freddy have great mapcontrol. Other have great mobility. The biggest advantage on the side of the killer in my eyes is, that he can see who the survivors play and what items they will bring into the game. U can adapt to that which ur choice of perks and addons. I believe that, if u use the things the game gives u as a killer u have all the tools u need to win a game even without tunneling. And like i said in the beginning, when i realise that the killers is not getting any grasp on us i will adapt my playstyle so that i will be found and get chased. Because i know that getting crushed sucks and the matchmaking can betray u from time to time. I think that a community should care for each other to make the game a pleasant experience for everyone. I, as a survivor dont have to win the game at all cost, as long as i'm having fun as well as the other players.
@@WoWTairy Again, you're entitled to your opinion. Your arguments are all very...survivor minded of course. Agree to disagree. Also, I'm not saying killers "have" to tunnel, I'm just saying it's a tool that can be used. If a killer uses it get over it and move on to the next game. Don't leave toxic messages to the killer. It's just a game.
People tend to forget, multiplayer games were made to be played against other players for a reason. To challenge you. If you want a specific ruleset, and gameplay style, find a community to play with that hosts their own stuff. If you play against randoms, expect them to play their own way.
Toxic survivors: *Blame killers for not letting the last survivor escape/not letting them win automatically* My camping ass, who has noed equipped on half of my killers and always closes the hatch: *Is this some peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand?*
My friends and I have been running into a lot of hackers lately. A surprising amount actually... I personally had three matches in a row two weeks ago where I was playing killer and at least two people in each of those matches was hacking. One match had teleporting Leon's with flashlights. I had Lightborn on and I was still blinded every time I tried to pick up a survivor. Another match had pig-face Meg's with infinite speed burst. I managed to down one and as soon as I hooked her, I was freeze-lagged for about 20 seconds. When I unfroze, they were all looping me, tea-bagging. In another match I actually submitted my livestream to Behavior because the hacker came in with infinite health. This person kept going infront of my Michael at EW3 and would unhook and block me from going after everyone else. I finally downed her after four EW3 stabs. She immediately jumped into mid-air and disappeared and her survivor icon was at full health instantly. Never heard back from Behavior.
My fav way to play is just not worry about pressure of winning and just chase whoever I see always go for injured people and leave chase in strong loops but apart from that I'm chill If however someone teabags I make it my mission to kill them and tunnel and camp them to death
Does anyone end up tunneling without meaning to? I good back because someone is getting unhooked and just take at swing at who I can find not realizing til I hooked them again that this might have been my previous victim.
I’ve been hunting salty survivors as of recent because of your new series, I found a streamer who blamed everything but his own gameplay haha. But also, do you have a discord server at all? I feel it’d be fun for everyone to share their salt :)
On PC, DBD has a censor chat filter so anything even curse words are banned. Curse words shouldn’t be banned in a 17+ game but racial slurs and discrimination should be default censored and automatically ban that person!!
Or make that an option as well Contrary to popular belief, using a slur doesn’t automatically make you bigoted. It’s only if you use it to be discriminatory
@@crypt5129 I disagree. Make it so only slurs are blocked out, not swear words. There's no justified reason to use a slur, period, if you're bigoted or not. No one cares if you say fuck, but a slur doesn't need to be on there.
@@DeBolttheBear I didn’t say there was a justified reason, but you can’t say that it’s always racist and discriminatory because that’s just not true. Any word can be discriminatory if used correctly (or incorrectly, however you look at it). Context matters, but some people don’t believe that which is why it should be an option and not the default
@@crypt5129 no. It doesn’t matter if it’s not used as racist or discriminatory. It’s not appropriate to use those words on anyone because the overlying meaning behind them. It should be default for slurs not swear words.
@@DeBolttheBear And that is your opinion, which I and many other people disagree with. That’s why it should be an option and not default. If you turn it on, why does it matter if other people don’t have it on? It’s all down to personal opinion, there’s no reason to limit people’s freedom of speech because it doesn’t align with your opinion
The ban system on playstation works like this. 1. You get a warning. 2. You get banned for 24 hours. 3. You get banned for 72 hours. 4. You get banned for 7 days. 5. You get banned for a month. 6. You get a permanent ban. In that order. I know because I had a account permabanned because of DBD. I got all of the bans within a 3 month period. All of the bans were due to them bringing the DC penalty back. The game severely tilted me. In closing I believe after a 6 month/1 year period they will restart your ban level. So as long as the guy wasn't consistently banned I highly doubt he was "banned for weeks".
I won’t go after the one who gets unhooked. I typically try to wait a single hooked survivor before I hook the one who got off hook. Unless one gen remains or they were toxic (defined differently from to the other bit for me its teabagging and consistent clicking of flashlight. Especially if I plan on farming or just being nice). But regardless play how you want. ☺️🙏🏻
I've been playing killer for the most part and recently made the switch to okay survivor and killer and man the level of pettiness I see from a lot of survivors is so ridiculous. Some I swear expect you to not try and let the. Fox everything. Keep doing your thing man
As a survivor main, the only thing that gets me upset is face camping. Like killer on top of my on the hook level camping. Personal space dude, at least stand a few feet over there...
The other day a killer messaged me, was really upset that my friend and I helped the rando escape (we didn’t see the rando bming), after I explained that we’re just some friends trying to have fun the tone changed and the person began to tell me they were thinking about self harm. I gave them the number to some mental health resources and told them I hope they feel better. This game is a trip man…
The best games to farm hatemail are: Dbd= play as a killer effectively. Fighting games= play really good ans dont allow the other dude to hit you at all. Dark souls = invade in hard areas. Fps games = play with a shotgun.
i remember one time i was playing with new ppl via vc and shit and they were new and i was more experienced. and the killers werent bad but obviously more casual or less experienced and the only reason my team got out was bc 2 of us were experienced survivors and the other 2 were newbies. end game chat was the newbies getting all cocky and being toxic "ggez killer got clapped" never had the desire to unfriend someone so damn much on steam as that day
I enjoy your gameplay, I could just do without the complaining about survivors getting mad about tunneling. Like you said it's the survivors objective so you can't really get mad. And I agree all the same. However there is a huge difference between effectively knocking out your objectives as a survivor ("gen rush"), and camping the hook, tunneling out the injured survivor, and using them for bait because they lack the ability to chase. I play both sides equally, and for an asymmetrical 4v1 game. I think it's pretty balanced, all things considered.
And I mean tunneling tunneling, not the killer is cracked and hooked 3 people in 40 seconds then hooked the first again tunnel. I'm talkin the single out 1 survivor and ignoring all other survivors from the start of the match with no reason to tunnel. There are far too many killers that do that. It's only ignorant people that get mad when someone tunnels because they HAVE to in order to secure a win. That's when it makes sense, that's the objective. But you DO actually lose points by tunneling and hanging around hooks because it's not that fun for anybody, killer included.
How can you even compare the two like that? "Yeah they can "Gen rush" killers all they want, but cry when tunneled"... that is THE MOST efficient thing you can do as a survivor. So trying to compare playing like an asshole, and playing an efficient survivor. And please don't pretend that singling out and tunneling a single survivor off the hook, one after the other from the start of the match is efficient killer play.
If there's someone to blame is all of them. Giving free hits, free pops at 5 gens. You just snowballed because they were not organized enough to get a single unhook.
To be fair I don’t really agree with the whole “killers only have to play nice” because there are definitely things that killers feel they are entitled to ex. It’s illegal to run DS, map offerings are also illegal etc. But I will say that survivors are way more entitled but killer entitlement still exists.
Yep. Had a killer slug me as the last survivor to wait out the full bleed out timer. Asked him why, and he told me I was being toxic for body blocking him (I was using Mettle of Man and Breakout). It’s not exclusive to either side, the people who play this game will bitch about anything
*Me seeing noed* Me: against a Oni?! Oh god i gotta be careful *turns the corner seeing a demon dashing Oni making a beeline towards me* Me: *Patrick screaming* ohhh i got noed again! ...oh well ggs
since switching to a killer main, I have received more name calling, death threats and various TOS responses than ever in my history of playing online games. It's ridiculous....
today i came back after a very long break to the game and I got few new killers ....so I was very rusty .... won some lost some and Imidiatelly got called out to be noob and tunneler and camper despite trying to explain to them that I'm a killer I'm not their friend and i wont play to their convenience
Here’s a point that I feel ppl consistently talk past, I feel like ppl hand wave off killers playing scrubby by saying things like “oh if the killers camping he’s gonna lose if you guys do gens, plus borrowed time and deliverance punish camping” All these things are true and ways to counter camping but the problem is this requires awareness by all 4 survivors, if your playing random in survivors you have no guarantee your partners will know to do gens on a camping killer and they may go for the save, they also may not have the right perks on or may not even unlocked them, the killer only needs himself and he’s good to go and this is why ppl get so frustrated, playing against a lame strategy makes the game unfun and you can be the best survivor in the world if your team is not equipped to deal with the situation you lose That’s why ppl get mad at the killers playing a certain way, because a lot of the times they can’t do anything about it as a individual the entire team has to adjust and that’s hard to do playing on random match making, you could probably argue they should always play with a team but then if you can’t turn a game on and play on your own there’s something wrong there I think to fix this they should add a survivors voice chat for better communication I believe the pc has chat available but not console, they should add it to console as well
I feel like the survivor rule book relies heavily on forgetting about the other 3 survivors in the team and acting like it’s a 1V1 and not 4 humans vs 1 towering unit of a killer
Lmao, how would that work, each survivor bans 1 perk and the killer bans 4? Because if 4 survivors ban 4 perks the killer would have to run gearhead with blood favour
He probably didn’t get banned me and my friends used to report our own messages for fun and one of us got like 4 warnings without being banned and it still gave me messages like that
I've learned that if you play by the "survivor rule book" the survivors get toxic and teabag at you. I've even had survivors message me to say I sucked after they won because I played "fair".
Honestly the games way to easy when the killer plays "fair"
@@AmericanGadfly I think so too
Tbh first time I played i was told by people to play but their rulebook but because how I am I went to look at the rule and all that and I said oh look at this it says that there no rulebook and from there on j just kept how I wanted to if I had a bad game last round I'd tunnel the next to just realse my anger on someone and then just go back to playing normally
I used to play nice as a killer all the time because I know how much it sucked being tunneled when I played survivor… but not I stopped caring 😂 I’m tunneling/slugging if I need to
Is very rare when you play nice and fairly and got a GG from survivors...but when it happens feels so good.
I played a silent wraith in lery with devour...they couldn't find the totem...but I hooked them twice and then apply the mori...they sent me respects and were wholesome.
Funny enough, Blood Warden is the one perk I can't really be mad at. I just go 'Oh...' and laugh. Especially since it takes a lot of effort to get Blood Warden to work, and when it does work it's beautiful.
Seeing a survivor ram their face against a wall after teabagging and going clicky clicky at me is one of the most euphoric experiences in the game
Yeah, bloodwarden only works a small percentage of the time so idk why people get so mad when killers run it 🧍♂️ It just sucks as a survivor, but isn’t that the point?
That’s exactly what I was thinking, had a killer catch me and three others with it during the end game and we all died cause of the timer. Gotta be honest, it was shitty way to die but damn that killer played it right and earned it!
I instantly start laughing and while saying nonono😭😭
Blood Warden and Blast Mine (giving and receiving) always gets a chuckle from me
The little moments of communication via nods and head shakes between killer and survivor are some of the cutest things in this godforsaken game haha
My fave thing is sparing someone who I can TELL has been struggling, but like ,as Ghostface. Easier to tell if the Killer is friendly if they're doing a million squats in 2 seconds.
I have to admit, when I first started watching your videos, I really disagreed with your attitude when it came to slugging/tunneling/camping. But the longer I watch you and the more I actually listen to your reasoning, the more I understand.
And you're 100% right in this video...if the survivors can and should play as efficiently as possible, then the same goes for killer. Everything else is pure entitlement, just as it was with me back then, when I despised slugging/tunneling/camping without understanding the reason behind all of that!
We need more people like you in the community. Someone who actually listens and you're reasonable!
@@LalaRojas-jd5rc thx man, I'll do my best :)
@@Anghroth do ur best at what?
@@Anghroth whatchu.. whatchu.. raising ur hand for what u tryna get into? 👊
Yoo man. Respect.
Just play Demo. He's so cute no one can get mad.
As I read your comment , there was a recommended video from SpookyLoopz of him getting salt while playing Demo. It's ironic🤣
Demo doggo
Greg
Nope I've still gotten salt when playing Demo in the most chill way.
people insulting me for playing bubba but im not even facecamping or playing around basement xD
I love that Myers is in the background taking a nap.
imagine luring the killer away and let others unhook others safe
Mind blowing stuff right... Lol
absolutely unreal, no, unfathomable. what are you talking about? good survivors obviously bum rush for saves and take a gillion hits when it's completely uneccesary
That's just crazy! Who let you out??
its ridiculous how people dont get this lmao
Like why are you running the killer around the hooked person. If the killer sees me going for the hook they are going to change targets. And thats not "camping" the killer has 0 reason to leave the hooked area if everyone is there. But Some survivors are just....ugh
@cherrydoll nobody cares about your dumb unwritten rule. If you have Hooked a survivor and you know their teammates are lurking around the hook for a fact, there is nothing wrong with staying there and trying to flush them out. A killer that leaves a survivor on the hook while he knows the team is right there trying to get him off is a dumb killer.
I've had too many games where I play fair and 3 hook everyone just to get that one cocky survivor that tbags me at the exit gate even though I'm clearly holding back, and then after that says GGEZ like I didn't just purposely meme on them so they can get a free escape.
@@foooof7847 that i agree
-Has 2 hooks on them
-Barely even touched a single gen
-Hid more than did gens or helped
-Every teammate died before the last gen
-Barely escaped through RNG
GG, too EZ!!
I had a trickster recently saying ggez for no reason.And I agreed with him that is ez mindless spam killer for gamers that like things "ez" and don`t want to git gut.
thats why if i play vs tryhards I simply dont hold back.
I try not to tunnel but if im getting outplayed ill do what I have to do.
I was playing customs with a few friends the other day, and all I was playing when it was my turn to play killer was huntress because I wanted to hit cross maps and trick shots. Two games go by of me playing killer and both times I got terrible maps for cross maps, so I tell my friends when it’s my turn again that I want to play on cold wind because those maps are good for that. That’s all I asked for, and they said that’s fine so I brought the offering. There was nothing wrong with me simply wanting to have fun with huntress. It would’ve been fun for everybody.
When it was time for the match, one of my friends brought an ormond offering, knowing that all I wanted was to play huntress on cold wind and that I had been waiting to do that for nearly an hour at that point. So I told them that since they brought the offering, if we did get ormond, I wasn’t gonna hold back or give any second chances. I was gonna play for the win.
I absolutely shit on them, the guy who brought the offering who always acts like he’s the best player there, just because every single game he sweats his balls off even though it’s a custom, was very pissed. That was the first time I had actually played for the win against these people, and he was mad about it because I had the audacity to win a match against him.
He played killer next even though it wasn’t his turn. He played nurse, and he claims to once have been one of the top 100 nurses at one point even though he’s never stepped foot into the competitive scene. I decided to not mess around at all, and long story short, we won, and he lost.
I still can’t believe he got mad at me that game for “camping gens”. I was just staying near a gen that was almost complete so I could let it regress a bit even though I didn’t have ruin.
So yeah that guy sucks ass and every game he’s played with me since, he’s tried to prove that he’s better than me and just ended up looking like a dumbass.
Lol thats your friend? Damn, better cut the relation off
@@rinreborn7364 Just met him like a week before that
LOL He seriously got pissed off over a custom game? Screw that crybaby, nobody has time for sore losers. Ditch him
@@joyfulleader5075 Yeah he was mainly pissed because he thought he was better than me because every time I played killer, I would hold back to make the game fun. But that time I didn’t hold back and 4ked them in like 3 minutes.
@@unknownplite Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh haha dang fam
Onis power was literally made for slugging Lmfao 😭😭😭
Salty survivors be like: there’s killers in this game 🙄 how do I win? When they can kill me??? 😠
Same with Leatherface.
Someone got mad at me for slugging with twins... When they were both injured and crowding together. And it wasn't even for a long period, I switched to Charlotte and headed right to them and hooked them both...
I love how one of the survivors came in and was like totally chill about it, they literally started following and said gg.
In the first game: I really dont see why they would get mad other than "grrr I lost". You played Oni efficiently and slugged to maintain your power. It was a normal ass Oni win
You have to make sure I have fun. That's why. Sad, but true. Honestly, most killers are zero fun to play against. They. Are. Trying. To. Kill. You! Kinda thought that was the point, lol. XD Artist main, and I still play survivor when my friends are on. I am dog water at it, but we still have fun. Unless the killer is an obvious pos (hooking me and just staring at me till I die, for example), then I just assume I got outplayed. *shrug*
We all get salty but literally being racist/homophobes over a game that has no effect in your real life is absolutely wrong no matter how scummy someone else played. Unfortunately most people dont care about being scummy to others over DBD 😕
Gay
There’s nothing wrong with homophobia and racism.
There is something wrong with getting mad over a video game.
@@pvzfan4208 everything is wrong with homophobia AND racism. Imagine judging and hating someone based off their skin color or the person they love. Both which we cant control. Everything about their reactions were cringe.
@@pvzfan4208 WTF??!!
Dude Wth
slugging is a something that is considered by the devs. there are perks made for this. the entire reason you can recover from being downed is if the killer slugs you. that is the fundamental reason behind Unbreakable's existence. slugging is a fair strat that someone, as a survivor, should consider. same thing with tunneling and hook/proxy camping. those are things that survivors can take advantage of.
survivors will dead ass defend body blocking and gen rushing as strategies to win but the second a killer slugs or end game camps suddenly it’s not ok like ??
@@becca-de6so survivors just want free wins, and or a baby killer to tbag. They foam at the mouth if they don't get either
Espcially when certain killers are built around slugging. Oni, Twins, Myers to an extent, even Plague a bit. The killers that have limited powers with huge spikes
@@becca-de6so body blocking is a fundamental part of playing survivor especially if you don’t have BT, I agree about gen rushing tho unless it’s last gen. Much smarter to split up and work on gens individually
@@makayla1223 slugging and proxying are also fundamental parts of being a killer to build pressure
Dont worry noeddaddy we are stronger(and also we have more braincells than perks in a swf) we will always support u
NOEDDADDY-
then
@@sharedcat ?
@@pugwhisperer7211 hes making fun of your grammar. you said "braincells then" when its supposed to be 'than'
@@iluvcatz2 Not making fun, just indicating it.
It just sad people take this game seriously. You didn’t camp or tunnel this person just got mad for no reason even tho they played not so good. 😂
That dude should maybe go touch some grass he probably has 5000 hours on fortnite and 1000 on dbd and thinks because he's a survivor main killers should follow the imaginary rulebook or your breaking a law from all 50 states (idk why I said fortnite but oh well)
@@metald.e.v422 whats wrong Sith 5000 hrs on fortnite?
@@sherellwhite3624 it was a joke you know to much time on a game I was gonna list off more and nothing wrong with fornite just using it as a example because when I last played fortnite everyone was playing like it was world championship and to get that good you probably had to spend almost 24/7 on a game to get that good and waste day on end getting good at one game meaning he that they never gone out side to smell the fresh air, see the sunlight and touch some grass trying to make a metaphor
@@sherellwhite3624 A lot that's over 200 days if some played non stop fortnite, nobody should be playing games for that long, it's unhealthy for ur mental and physical health.
I’ve just started tunnelling regularly. I’m actually over being a nice guy… it gets you nowhere, especially with this shitty matchmaking
Don't we all love salty survivors. Lol I always die when he jokes about going to hell for using Noed and all that stuff 🤣
It’s crazy of how much toxic people there are
Someone told me to kill myself because I had noed....
I get messages evrey fuckin match so I do 1 push-ups evrey time I get one and so far I have done 52
@@Meezy_2000 that's fucked up
Played as Infinite tier 3 Michael with tombstone once and had NOED just as a precaution if I didn’t get tier3 right away. I was rather lazy that match, calm and collective, until they began tbaggin and clicking lights. I didn’t mind at first til it was repetitive, so the gates were unlocked and the survivors decide to just go into the basement and jump in and out of lockers. The satisfaction I got from downing one while in tier 2, hooked them and activated blood warden. Tier 3 pops and they’re all nervous now, running to that one gate! Then had the audacity to message me with homophobic slurs and racial slurs, smh. They even said to kill myself, why are ppl so cruel?
14:44 its so nice to see that other killers want survivors to keep their items when they let them live
Honestly when I’m playing survivor i love hoarding items
And I understand that sometimes when you wanna live, you will give up a great item
And im not about that as killer
you take it if i let you escape
I will sit there and swing at the item as they stare at me, until they pick it up
i put it down as a thank you 🤣
but when im playing killer i hate when they put it down when i let the survivor escape too
so it makes no sense either way
I wish people would realize IT'S A GAME. Nothing to seriously get tilted by especially when it results into racism and homophobia. I'm a survivor main (Yui mostly) and can't tell you the number of times I've been face camped, proxy camped, tunneled, ect. I just look at it as the killers play style especially considering it's a 4 v 1 game. I take my L and move on to the next match. Simple.
You may be taking an L, but you're also taking an F(un) :)
They're words....get over it
@@F.P.E.7211 homophobia and racial slurs are just "words"??? Words that were used to hold communities and ethnicity into oppression still to this day are just "words"??? You're a major part of the problem 😒
@@serbal469 I can see how it takes the fun out of the game but I just look at it as every match is not going to be that way.
@@dparker8929 Nobody cares yall community is forcing an agenda. People were born with principles and morals and you are no person to tell another person with their beliefs that they are are wrong. You cannot be straight anymore with people canceling you🤷🏻♂️ and with your methods of convincing myself and people like me its not going to work cause we were born like this and its engraved into our beings.
that last feng was so cute, and really wanted to make sure you were letting her keep that medkit 🥺 and then her name was spit on my toe:|
Something I love is the silent camera motion dialogue between killers and survivors, no matter how many bullying swfs I get as killer those fun solo queue survivors make it worth it in my opinion.
Bro, last night I was called an asshole for trying to get kills even tho I'm Michael without any gen pressure perk
Dude I feel the same here as a pig main who had no map pressure in general
I keep getting told I'm bad for using a top tier uncounterable killer
I'm pyramid head and ghostface main they're strong yh but I don't see myself as an uncounterable force
@@jameshead833 You’re not wrong. The only uncounterable killer I think is spirit maybe
@@-skeptix- nope. Every killer has a counter. Killers need to make reads to stop survivors but it always depends on who makes the right read from both sides.
@@-skeptix- yh I'd agree with that I think their are some counters but they only work on some spirit playstyles
Dude, don’t let these people get in your head. Play anyway you want. If they have issues they can take that up with the Developers. If you wanna end a game fast and get less blood points that’s your choice. The same applies to people Gen rushing and skipping totem cleanses; which is HALF of the game that people forget about. Which is why survivors RARELY get over 20,000 blood points in a match that can potentially award them 32,000. You’re amazing, and don’t ever let anyone make you feel bad, especially over a GAME!
7:09 I started laughing as the camera zoomed in on your face, you looked like: uhhhhhh what'd I do wrong? lmao.
Wanted to say, great content, amazing channel, I follow you on Twitch and I look forward to watching more of you. I found your channel maybe two days ago and just started watching, I 100% agree with your philosophy on killers and survivors. Killers should be able to do most of the stuff they get called out for because that's how you win, and survivors can do gens, they just rush the hooks and that's how they die. Anyways, just wanted to say: amazing channel, love you and your philosophy keep it up man 👌
That Feng in the second game was adorable, giving your her medkit as a thank you 🥺❤️
To quote good ole Bricky, "Remember this game is played how you want to play it. No made up honor code and no rules, play to win but most of all have fun!"
4:23 see, a bit of practice and topknot can turn a horrible Oni player to a pretty decent one
Can’t wait for people to defend homophobes because he slugged lmao
@Trantor The Troll lmao
Beong gay is pretty gay tho
@@treecultleader970 are you enjoying it so far?
@@Cathulu_ not realy no
I mean no ones actually afraid of the gheys...hence homophobia the word has no meaning. (Was trying my hand at a defense, OP seemed like he was issuing a challenge).
Because who really is gunna defend someone calling someone else the F word in a insulting way. Believe it or not my ghey friends use that word like african americans use the N word to each other. (Im not saying i condone it, just stating a fact of my expierences)
Regardless of if you agree or disagree with peoples play styles we can all agree slurs and death threats have no place here.
They are meaningless words....grow a spine and don't be so soft
Oh they don’t bother me but that doesn’t mean they’re acceptable.
@@F.P.E.7211 you sound like one of those white boys who go around using slurs because they think it’s cool
@@F.P.E.7211words have meaning. just because someone's offended by, you know, a word made specifically to punch down on their identity, doesn't make them soft. dumbass take
Oh this is the perfect place to tell about the game I had a bit ago.
I was in a discord server with friends streaming and one wanted me to play scratched mirror myers so I do that and go to the RPD map with essentially no perks (only terror radius perks) and What I meet is a 4 man swf that go into the upstairs library and sit there all 4. If I run up to stab them they run around and it takes forever to catch them, they all had balanced, they all Soulguard and then different combinations of unbreakable, tenacity, flipflop and breakout, and they used offerings to spawn hooks further apart. So if I downed one, i couldn't get them anywhere in time, and they'd eventually recover and have soulgard or their friends to take hits. Eventually some spilt out and did gens, and I ended up having one bleed out on the floor and one hook kill, but the match took around 40min and it was just so soulcrushing.
Could I have done something different?
God that sounds painful, I don't know if it would work but I'd say the best thing you could of done is not partisapate and just make the match as boring/painful for them as they made it for you. They can't bully you around the library area if your not there.
Is there anything you could have done? Probably not. Not with Myers on that map against a swf
even though I don't play DBD I strongly relate to this do to me playing similarly hated playstyles in other casual games and watch this channel for the relatability
Honestly I see alot of this stuff in the FGC circles.
I got flamed and called all sorts of slurs for finishing a match with Potemkin's grab in Strive
I think people forget that not all survivors are like this. Killers are like this as well but no one ever shows it.
I play survivor with meta perks, click and tbag so I get chased and still it has never happened for me
@@spooknjukes9886 I don’t think you play survivor enough. I play both but I mainly play survivor, and throughout my games, I’ve gotten constant homophobic slurs and racist comments left on my steam profile that I have to delete. I think it’s bad for both sides but it’s always the survivors taking the heat for most of it.
@@spooknjukes9886 also I don’t do that as survivor and I still get shit for no reason. It’s the fact that you do that and expect to get salty reactions from the killer. I guess I play to play the game, not to get salty reactions out of other players
@@onyxia0003 you can “think” I don’t play survivor all you want. If you watched my Twitch, you would know that I do. I was a survivor main before playing both sides.
Now, you’re just making stuff up lol I literally said I click and tbag “so that the killer will chase me” and you put words in my mouth saying that I do it for salty reactions. You either can’t read or REALLY want to spin your narrative.
@@spooknjukes9886 Okay, so keep doing that, but you can't get mad or be filming people's "salty" reactions because they were t-bagging or flashlight clicking maybe so for the same reason. Your content is literally just people's salty reactions hence why I choose not to watch a lot of your videos/streams
As a pansexual, I get really offended by people using homophobic slurs escaping their reality of failure
If they get mad over playing a normal match. Imagine when they play killer.
It really says a lot about a person if they get enraged about a video game. Some fresh air and hard work is in order.
So crazy people actually get mad at this game, I’m just laughing the whole time lol
It’s made it’s way to yt comment sections now! You can’t even explain someone’s gameplay or what they were most likely trying to do without people freaking out on you and telling you you’re mad...?? It’s mind blowing at this point
Bro I just started watching your stuff and I gotta say, I found another amazing bdb player to watch. So excited to watch some more.
This man is everything great about this community
He likes easy games i get that. But i wish he learns the fun of improving, instead of being carried by perks, camping and tunneling. In the end he can play how he likes, if all he wants is kills.
It’s like the survivors thought the survivors rule book for killers, from Samination is actually real, and that it should be taken into full affect
The absolute slaughter fest the first game was, I dont even understand the salt, he just killed everyone without doing anything toxic
As a survivor main, I too believe everyone can play however they want. I mean sure I get a bit annoyed when the killer slug or camp but it is what it is, if that's how they play, then there's really not much you can do about it. As long as they're having fun.
Also thank you for reporting that person calling you the f-slur. As someone who's openly bi, I feel like sometimes people don't realize how hurtful that word actually is towards people who are bi, gay, etc. So once again, thank you.
Love your content man!
Myers looked stoned af in the background lmao
Your games as killer goes two ways. The first way you play to win. Which may involve a little camping or tunneling, the possible slug happens. At the end of the match you are called everything in the book by the survivors. Or you play "fair" by "fair" I mean in accordance with the survivor handbook of play. You get like 3 hooks, maybe a bbq stack if you're lucky. And you get the awesome teabagging, locker and pallet spamming, and my personal favorite the flashlight clicking at the exit gates.
My favorite is when you hook someone, and another survivor is unhooking while you’re standing there… you drop them and they claim you’re camping… wtah?!
Saying yikes after the slur is such a power move
Thank you for letting me get hatch at the end 😂😂
I only ever play killer when I need to do a daily challenge since I have majority of the killers, but other then that it's stressful, specially when they're toxic towards you.
I haven't played DBD for that long, but I learned a lot through watching videos. I do a bit of both but haven't found my niche yet, I mostly play survivor but still learning. At first I was pretty much an entitled survivor as well. I got hella salty any time I got tunneled or proxy camped- but chose to ignore that we gen rushed or that I just wasn't good at looping or keeping the killer busy. Watching SpooknJukes' videos though kind of put things into perspective for me. I realized that 'yeah, if we gen rush and the killer has zero kills- it's a valid strategy for the killer to gain control back over the match'. It also really helped when I do play killer. I always went out of my way not to tunnel or proxy camp, even when the survivors literally rushed to hook to get their friend off. However, learning that 'when I play killer, I can have fun too and it's not up to me to make it fun for survivors'- really changed how I play killer, too. I'm not saying I insta tunnel or camp, but if they gen rush and 3 gens pop within 2 minutes, then yeah.. you betcha I'm going to tunnel. I also got flamed a lot in chat when playing killer and using NOED or when I play 'fairly' (to the survivors standards). I've learned to just laugh at it, or simply turn off chat post game. I'm not playing to get upset, I'm playing for fun.
Glad you make these videos man ☺
the michael myers mask on the side of the screen was getting all my attention, i literally had to rewatch the beginning lol
Some survivors mains act like it's always the killers fault if they lose 😂😂😂its too funny
Playing both sides really made me realise there are entitled people no matter what you play. When I played a meme build on bubba (hoarders, franklins, mad grit and agitation) with no addons on rpd (they brought me there), I ended up with a 4k with 2 gens remaining. One of them got mad at me for 'camping the hook' when I was running around the room with the long table with the Kate who I had found there straight after I had hooked someone. I ended up losing the kate and when I went to check a gen I saw someone going for the unhook so I followed and they proceeded to unhook directly in my face. So naturally I downed them both, slugged the person who had originally been on the hook and hooked the unhooker. I slugged them so I didn't get them out the game too fast and so they wouldn't be able to go and do a gen. To me it was a smart thing to do and kind of nice but for some god damn reason this person got mad at me for it.
Yesterday I met a nice streamer and ended up duo queueing with someone from his chat.
We had a nemesis face camping from 3 gens which is whatever. Duo ends up going and trading with the person who was on hook.
Now most people know not to save when someone's being face camped unless you have 2 people otherwise you're just trading which doesn't really help anything.
I was dead set on not trading because it seemed like a stupid thing to do at 3 gens especially since I had a challenge I needed to escape to do. Person I queued with ended up dying and we did all the gens and escaped because nemesis didn't win another chase after that. The two randoms and I had ran him pretty much all game when one of them made a mistake and got hooked.
Yes 1 person died but we got 3 out because we didn't trade. I tried to explain it to the person I queued with but they got mad because I didn't trade and let myself be face camped because 'I wOuLD hAve sAVed yOU'. We both knew no, he wouldn't or he would've tried and we would've both been dead. I tried to do it stealthily which would've been a smarter move than just straight up trading and I failed. Since he knew I was there I wouldn't have been able to trade anyway because he would've grabbed me off. No matter how I tried to explain it this person was mad for a whole TWO HOURS because I refused to swap with them. Basically he wanted me to die so he could escape. He called me a coward multiple times and I was so done with him at that point.
The problem is the BHVR devs have set a tone that killers are here to amuse survivors. It's infuriating. I get so tired of hearing "Well, we changed this because it wasn't fun for survivors to play against..." What is fun for survivors? Free wins and tea bagging? Why don't we ever hear 'Well, that wasn't fun for killers so..."?
Bro I 1,000,000% agree with you I literally can’t get over how many times they’ve done that with survivors and have only done once maybe twice for killers but hey, it only matters when the survivors are having fun
We can only hope for a 2 week ban most of the time they just don't take action :/
Nice vid tho!
@Kevin Lee yeah they ban you for anything
Spooks did say in the intro that he reported the salty guy, and was later notified by PSN that they took action. You can probably guess what they meant by that...
Even if you "play this way to get these reactions", who cares? Despite what survivor extremists may think, there is no rulebook the killer has to play by. He is not there to make sure their games are amusing, he is not there to make sure everyone gets a lot of blood points, he's there because the person who is playing him wants to play the game and be amused themselves. However they want to do that is up to them. There are enough systems in place and second chance perks and things like the hatch that it is almost impossible to "ruin" a game for survivors. If a game is ruined for a survivor or survivor team it's because they let it be ruined by being salty that the killer wasn't playing by whatever imaginary set of guidelines they have in their head.
If people have a serious problem with something in the game, take it up with BHVR not the player(that goes for killers and survivors, IMO). Everyone plays the game to have fun and they all have to abide by the actual rules and guidelines set forth by BHVR. Everything else is imaginary.
yup
While it is true that u play a game to amuse yourself, what is wrong with adapting a playstyle so its amusing for everybody?
I am a main survivor and i dont really care if i win or lose. But i can tell u that there are not enough systems to counter getting tunneled. First chase, first hook, seconde chase maybe bt, maybe d strike, seconde hook, again maybe bt or d strike, but what now. Ofc it takes along time and chances are high that the other 3 survivors a just genrushing and leave. And the game is not ruined for that one poor survivor because he got salty. Its because he had no chance.
And i dont think that the dev team can do anything about it. Its just a playstyle some killers like to play
I feel like not camping or tunneling is just an act of good sportsmanship, the same as not "teabagging" is.
If u compare it to football(soccer for the us) where u could really have an advantage when someone lays on the ground injured. Do they keep playing and potentialy score goal. In most cases the answer is no. And that desicion could cost the team millions of euros. Why cant we have good sportsmanship in a videogame we all play just for fun?
Btw
I watched some of spookes videos and i find the argument that the survivors have things like "Brand New Parts" or GenPerks, so u can tunnel or camp kinda weak.
I dont think u should compare the ressources the game gives u to a playstyle .
I dont think its to hard for a killer to counter a Genrush. Corrupt Intervention is one thing that comes to my mind.
I dont really like the No one escape death perk, but if a killer has it so be it. Ruin and Undying compo is annoying as hell, but is a legit strat that can be countered and for me thats the most importend point.
If I lose but i know i had the chance to win with my team and not have to leave someone behind because the killer just happend to get him and guarded him like he is the "One Ring" I dont care. I write gg wp in the aftergame chat and start the next game. But if I just have to Genrush to get out of that boring quicktime sim where i fix gens all day or stare in bubbas ugly leatherface I may get a little bit upset and dont write gg wp.
And u can tell me whatever u want but i dont think that u can counter facecamping or tunneling by a really good killer
@@WoWTairy I'll just say this; you're entitled to your opinion. However, when survivors start adjusting their playstyle for killers I'll start thinking about doing the same. Have you EVER seen a game where survivors banged out 3 gens in a minute and a half and said "We should really give the killer some hooks..." No, you have not. That makes any other points moot, IMO.
@@TheZombiegenesis actually i do that. But first let me say this. Getting 3 Gens done after a minute and a half is certainly applying a lot of pressure to the killer.
But u have the ressources to prevent that and they are not tunneling and facecamping. With stage 3 Corrupt Intervention there are only 4 Gens to guard for the first 2 min and they are the closest to u.
Dont like CI, fine. U can pressure those gens that are close to each other to force the survivors to 3 gen themself. Some killers like Hag, Trapper or Freddy have great mapcontrol. Other have great mobility.
The biggest advantage on the side of the killer in my eyes is, that he can see who the survivors play and what items they will bring into the game.
U can adapt to that which ur choice of perks and addons.
I believe that, if u use the things the game gives u as a killer u have all the tools u need to win a game even without tunneling.
And like i said in the beginning, when i realise that the killers is not getting any grasp on us i will adapt my playstyle so that i will be found and get chased.
Because i know that getting crushed sucks and the matchmaking can betray u from time to time. I think that a community should care for each other to make the game a pleasant experience for everyone. I, as a survivor dont have to win the game at all cost, as long as i'm having fun as well as the other players.
@@WoWTairy Again, you're entitled to your opinion. Your arguments are all very...survivor minded of course. Agree to disagree. Also, I'm not saying killers "have" to tunnel, I'm just saying it's a tool that can be used. If a killer uses it get over it and move on to the next game. Don't leave toxic messages to the killer. It's just a game.
People tend to forget, multiplayer games were made to be played against other players for a reason. To challenge you. If you want a specific ruleset, and gameplay style, find a community to play with that hosts their own stuff. If you play against randoms, expect them to play their own way.
Modern Warfare lobbies were a different age.
It's the way you look when people do something stupid for me. The same face I make, look off to the side speechless. LOL
Everyone at 7:55 was thinking, "Was...was that on my end?"
You taught me a lot about when should You tunnel and when you should play chill
Toxic survivors: *Blame killers for not letting the last survivor escape/not letting them win automatically*
My camping ass, who has noed equipped on half of my killers and always closes the hatch: *Is this some peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand?*
The only think I really hate is if you tunnel super hard for no reason or you just sit in front of someone on hook to face camp
XD That oni smash after she picked up her item made me laugh.
My friends and I have been running into a lot of hackers lately. A surprising amount actually... I personally had three matches in a row two weeks ago where I was playing killer and at least two people in each of those matches was hacking. One match had teleporting Leon's with flashlights. I had Lightborn on and I was still blinded every time I tried to pick up a survivor. Another match had pig-face Meg's with infinite speed burst. I managed to down one and as soon as I hooked her, I was freeze-lagged for about 20 seconds. When I unfroze, they were all looping me, tea-bagging. In another match I actually submitted my livestream to Behavior because the hacker came in with infinite health. This person kept going infront of my Michael at EW3 and would unhook and block me from going after everyone else. I finally downed her after four EW3 stabs. She immediately jumped into mid-air and disappeared and her survivor icon was at full health instantly. Never heard back from Behavior.
My fav way to play is just not worry about pressure of winning and just chase whoever I see always go for injured people and leave chase in strong loops but apart from that I'm chill
If however someone teabags I make it my mission to kill them and tunnel and camp them to death
the feng in the second clip was adorable.
Does anyone end up tunneling without meaning to? I good back because someone is getting unhooked and just take at swing at who I can find not realizing til I hooked them again that this might have been my previous victim.
I started out as a normal Killer. Now I am a 5k+ hour Nurse that never lost a game since 4 years even against the sweatiest comp players.
I’ve been hunting salty survivors as of recent because of your new series, I found a streamer who blamed everything but his own gameplay haha. But also, do you have a discord server at all? I feel it’d be fun for everyone to share their salt :)
They have a discord discord.gg/R64E2ZvH
6:49 Spooks i love you for saying that
7:56 wtf happened here
On PC, DBD has a censor chat filter so anything even curse words are banned. Curse words shouldn’t be banned in a 17+ game but racial slurs and discrimination should be default censored and automatically ban that person!!
Or make that an option as well
Contrary to popular belief, using a slur doesn’t automatically make you bigoted. It’s only if you use it to be discriminatory
@@crypt5129 I disagree. Make it so only slurs are blocked out, not swear words. There's no justified reason to use a slur, period, if you're bigoted or not. No one cares if you say fuck, but a slur doesn't need to be on there.
@@DeBolttheBear I didn’t say there was a justified reason, but you can’t say that it’s always racist and discriminatory because that’s just not true.
Any word can be discriminatory if used correctly (or incorrectly, however you look at it). Context matters, but some people don’t believe that which is why it should be an option and not the default
@@crypt5129 no. It doesn’t matter if it’s not used as racist or discriminatory. It’s not appropriate to use those words on anyone because the overlying meaning behind them. It should be default for slurs not swear words.
@@DeBolttheBear And that is your opinion, which I and many other people disagree with. That’s why it should be an option and not default. If you turn it on, why does it matter if other people don’t have it on? It’s all down to personal opinion, there’s no reason to limit people’s freedom of speech because it doesn’t align with your opinion
The ban system on playstation works like this.
1. You get a warning.
2. You get banned for 24 hours.
3. You get banned for 72 hours.
4. You get banned for 7 days.
5. You get banned for a month.
6. You get a permanent ban.
In that order. I know because I had a account permabanned because of DBD. I got all of the bans within a 3 month period. All of the bans were due to them bringing the DC penalty back. The game severely tilted me.
In closing I believe after a 6 month/1 year period they will restart your ban level. So as long as the guy wasn't consistently banned I highly doubt he was "banned for weeks".
I won’t go after the one who gets unhooked. I typically try to wait a single hooked survivor before I hook the one who got off hook. Unless one gen remains or they were toxic (defined differently from to the other bit for me its teabagging and consistent clicking of flashlight. Especially if I plan on farming or just being nice). But regardless play how you want. ☺️🙏🏻
I've been playing killer for the most part and recently made the switch to okay survivor and killer and man the level of pettiness I see from a lot of survivors is so ridiculous. Some I swear expect you to not try and let the. Fox everything. Keep doing your thing man
the sword is so small compared to the oni's giant hand-
Hope you and your family are doing well during this time! Thanks for making consistent quality content❤️
As a survivor main, the only thing that gets me upset is face camping. Like killer on top of my on the hook level camping. Personal space dude, at least stand a few feet over there...
The other day a killer messaged me, was really upset that my friend and I helped the rando escape (we didn’t see the rando bming), after I explained that we’re just some friends trying to have fun the tone changed and the person began to tell me they were thinking about self harm.
I gave them the number to some mental health resources and told them I hope they feel better. This game is a trip man…
Yikes
The best games to farm hatemail are:
Dbd= play as a killer effectively.
Fighting games= play really good ans dont allow the other dude to hit you at all.
Dark souls = invade in hard areas.
Fps games = play with a shotgun.
i remember one time i was playing with new ppl via vc and shit and they were new and i was more experienced.
and the killers werent bad but obviously more casual or less experienced and the only reason my team got out was bc 2 of us were experienced survivors and the other 2 were newbies.
end game chat was the newbies getting all cocky and being toxic "ggez killer got clapped"
never had the desire to unfriend someone so damn much on steam as that day
Love you videos will watch your gameplay anyday keep it up
I enjoy your gameplay, I could just do without the complaining about survivors getting mad about tunneling. Like you said it's the survivors objective so you can't really get mad. And I agree all the same. However there is a huge difference between effectively knocking out your objectives as a survivor ("gen rush"), and camping the hook, tunneling out the injured survivor, and using them for bait because they lack the ability to chase. I play both sides equally, and for an asymmetrical 4v1 game. I think it's pretty balanced, all things considered.
And I mean tunneling tunneling, not the killer is cracked and hooked 3 people in 40 seconds then hooked the first again tunnel. I'm talkin the single out 1 survivor and ignoring all other survivors from the start of the match with no reason to tunnel. There are far too many killers that do that. It's only ignorant people that get mad when someone tunnels because they HAVE to in order to secure a win. That's when it makes sense, that's the objective. But you DO actually lose points by tunneling and hanging around hooks because it's not that fun for anybody, killer included.
How can you even compare the two like that? "Yeah they can "Gen rush" killers all they want, but cry when tunneled"... that is THE MOST efficient thing you can do as a survivor. So trying to compare playing like an asshole, and playing an efficient survivor. And please don't pretend that singling out and tunneling a single survivor off the hook, one after the other from the start of the match is efficient killer play.
There is a setting to stop strangers sending you messages on playstation mate , job sorted
If there's someone to blame is all of them. Giving free hits, free pops at 5 gens. You just snowballed because they were not organized enough to get a single unhook.
To be fair I don’t really agree with the whole “killers only have to play nice” because there are definitely things that killers feel they are entitled to ex. It’s illegal to run DS, map offerings are also illegal etc. But I will say that survivors are way more entitled but killer entitlement still exists.
Honestly i don't care, sometimes i have good games sometimes i get bad games. Overall i have fun..
Yep. Had a killer slug me as the last survivor to wait out the full bleed out timer. Asked him why, and he told me I was being toxic for body blocking him (I was using Mettle of Man and Breakout). It’s not exclusive to either side, the people who play this game will bitch about anything
*Me seeing noed*
Me: against a Oni?! Oh god i gotta be careful
*turns the corner seeing a demon dashing Oni making a beeline towards me*
Me: *Patrick screaming* ohhh i got noed again! ...oh well ggs
im new enough to dbd and i dont know what tunneling means can someone please explain it to me
Focus on one survivor no matter what
90% of the reason why I pressed on this video was because of Shrek being in the photo and it didn't disappoint
I still dont know how the Chat would come up with that Oni Idea :X
7:55 What the hell was that noise?
since switching to a killer main, I have received more name calling, death threats and various TOS responses than ever in my history of playing online games. It's ridiculous....
today i came back after a very long break to the game and I got few new killers ....so I was very rusty .... won some lost some and Imidiatelly got called out to be noob and tunneler and camper despite trying to explain to them that I'm a killer I'm not their friend and i wont play to their convenience
that Feng moment was very cute 💞
Here’s a point that I feel ppl consistently talk past, I feel like ppl hand wave off killers playing scrubby by saying things like “oh if the killers camping he’s gonna lose if you guys do gens, plus borrowed time and deliverance punish camping”
All these things are true and ways to counter camping but the problem is this requires awareness by all 4 survivors, if your playing random in survivors you have no guarantee your partners will know to do gens on a camping killer and they may go for the save, they also may not have the right perks on or may not even unlocked them, the killer only needs himself and he’s good to go and this is why ppl get so frustrated, playing against a lame strategy makes the game unfun and you can be the best survivor in the world if your team is not equipped to deal with the situation you lose
That’s why ppl get mad at the killers playing a certain way, because a lot of the times they can’t do anything about it as a individual the entire team has to adjust and that’s hard to do playing on random match making, you could probably argue they should always play with a team but then if you can’t turn a game on and play on your own there’s something wrong there
I think to fix this they should add a survivors voice chat for better communication I believe the pc has chat available but not console, they should add it to console as well
I feel like the survivor rule book relies heavily on forgetting about the other 3 survivors in the team and acting like it’s a 1V1 and not 4 humans vs 1 towering unit of a killer
damn this was posted on my 21st birthday LMAO YESSS
if Behavior wouldn't want perks to be used they would make a perk ban before every game(similar to most MOBAs banning characters)
Lmao, how would that work, each survivor bans 1 perk and the killer bans 4? Because if 4 survivors ban 4 perks the killer would have to run gearhead with blood favour
@@ryokiritani4187 Killer might be able to ban 4 perks himself. Goodbye Spirit Burst, DS, Kindred, and Ironwill.
Sony don't tell you they were banned. Just that they "took action" which could mean anything from a ban to a warning or nothing at all!
He probably didn’t get banned me and my friends used to report our own messages for fun and one of us got like 4 warnings without being banned and it still gave me messages like that