Hit and Run Explained
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2020
- Since the Hit and Run incident that I caught on dashcam happened there have been a few developments!
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The guys at the start: "why is this guy telling his car he's back at B&Q??"
lmao
Haha. Would've been priceless to see their confused faces without their masks on.
Ashley thinks he's David Hasselhoff and drives a 1981 black Pontiac Trans Am!
"It happened on private property so there’s nothing we can do" So If you decided to get Drunk and do Donuts round B&Q's car park the Police could do nothing? I doubt that very much.
Well, it's basically untrue. You can be prosecuted for using a mobile on private property and boy racers are prosecuted for just the behaviour you describe. What the police statement means is, 'CBA, mate. Now f-off and leave us alone'.
Its not private property either. No idea why people seem to keep pushing that myth
Remember people - commit all your murders on private property and the law can't touch you!
Very disappointing that the police don't know the law and even when that was pushed they can't be arsed to be involved even though they have full evidence, number plates, etc.
Haha, they just politely refused to do their job, simple as that...
a driving instructor corrects the police that's when you know they just don't give a damn anymore.
They're far too busy "enforcing" ludicrous COVID-19 rules.
Police Farce. See how much of your council tax goes to funding the doughnut munching idiots.
@@SpeccyMan disagree, they're too busy either eating donuts or in a police car ignoring the radio so they can do a nice 10 hour shift without actually doing anything.
It's pointless trying to prosecute, so it's pointless them getting involved, the cost the tax payer would be 10x the cost of the actual repair and then at the end nobody is going to thank them for dragging an OAP through the courts over a minor offence, she'd probably get £30'000 for selling her story to the papers.........
@@Strider9655 if the message gets out that the police will prosecute, then it becomes a deterrent for others. if they just cba it then it does exactly the opposite.
“I never did that”. This is just the type of person who needs to be banned off the road for driving without due care or attention. Such a joke the police wouldn’t help you either 😠
I love you, this is exactly what i was thinking! Except you worded it far better than i ever could.
@@WavScorn259 haha thank you! 🙂
Banned off the planet tbh
Good, get her address from license plate and go to her home. Police won't do anything since it's private property eh, go to her private property and see what they do instead.
It’s that classic case of “I’ll park away from everyone else, out the way” only to come back and fined someone has still parked right next to you even though there’s loads of spaces around your own car. That does annoy me.
@@kirkhamandy They could have the thought that you're a good driver who cares about their car like them, and parking side by side is like both of you being parked next to a kerb or wall, your cars protect the side of the other from being hit by an idiot like that lady.
If you're parking in a car park where friends/competent driving colleagues park, wouldn't you try to park next to them if the space was available? Likewise if you're parking somewhere where the option is to park next to a car that appears looked after vs one that's beaten up, wouldn't you park next to the one that looks better looked after? You can't judge what will drive into the car park after you but if there is a car present that looks cared for then you can park next to it and be reasonable confident that they won't damage your car when leaving if they get back before you but also their car will protect your car from that side for as long as they're there. If all the good drivers could always fill a row between kerbs then their/our cars would never be damaged. If we group together when possible we can reduce the risk at least a bit.
@@markwright3161 I drive a Mercedes,quite often I will find another Merc has parked next to me,not sure why.
@@adeladd7638 Some people with Mercedes may be extreme badge snobs. Anything not a Mercedes is a 'lesser car' and not to be associated with by parking next to if it can be avoided. I guess it's similar to parking next to a car that looks cared for like I mentioned before but they're assuming the badge automatically makes the driver a 'better person' that by owing a Mercedes respects Mercedes' and will not throw their door against another Mercedes.
I like Mercedes, love the black series cars especially, but as a brand it does attract some odd sorts sometimes. :)
I drive a Focus. I don't get Fords parking next to me, but I don't really get anything parking next to me as my car still wears a scar from when I first started driving on the front bumper from a dashed wall and it's usually quite dirty so won't appear to others like a car to park next to. :)
@@markwright3161 I don't think it's to do with snobbery, I think it is just far more likely that they feel that if they find someone who has an expensive car/clearly looked after, the owner of that vehicle won't damage their car. I do the same in parking lots, I'll attempt to park near to someone who is in a similar car, or who clearly takes pride in their car
Unfortunately many humans have the same psyche as birds, they need to flock together. Some may also find it easier to park parallel to another car but also benefit from the extra space around it.
My biggest annoyance with parking is when you go out your way to park far away as possible and someone has to still park right next to you like why?
i do that and usually find a big van parked next to me when i get back
People figure that there’s something special about where you’ve parked so park next to you too to reap those benefits... Maybe they assume you’ve parked their cause it’s under CCTV surveillance, or maybe that’s where the Manager of the business parks to keep an eye on his vehicle. They know it’s unlikely, but just in case they follow what you’ve done. I call it the sheep effect.
One day, I'm parked at the far back of the far back.
Coming back to my car, and granny had her door resting on mine. I ask ''do you mind'', she smiles and leaves like I don't care what are you going to do to an old lady anyway... So I did nothing to the lady, but she won an extra round of having to reposition all wipers and mirrors properly.
I just park whereever I want 🤷🏼♂️
@@stevenoneill5926 Oh, the irony of your statement 😂
You still can sue her in civil court. I personally would do that she can't get away with this sort of behaviour.(if you added legal protection to your motor insurance you won't pay a penny)
You will end up more out of pocket because she can claim she's on benefits and will end up paying 50p a week which you can say goodbye to as she won't have to pay any damages. Best course of action is name and shame and move on with life.
It may cost you money in the end, but it's worth doing if you can afford it. I would.
You could make a claim for loss due to the collision using the small claims process.
You don't need a lawyer and the court fees can be added to the claim, they are not onerous.
It may even be that the necessary letter before action is sufficient to get her to pay up, better for her than a possible CCJ.
Only if he can get her details, which the police certainly won't give out.
@@ClarinoI The DVLA will give you them if you have been in an accident just need to make an application and pay a small fee
Ashley is someone that would be great in a crisis. A calm and measured approach to life. That is something that I am striving for.
Totally agree - if more were to people drive like Ashley, insurance companies would soon be out of a job
Ashley is a zen master like us cats.
Striving for.
I wonder if he was so calm immediately after the incident.
It's easy to be calm on video a bit later on.
@@meh276 I'd too wish to hear the calls he made to police etc.
Had the same happen to me at Ikea. Was actually walking back to the car, albeit quite far away when I saw someone pulling in who looked super close and saw a little jiggle from the car. Sure enough they ended up driving through the bay and there was a streak along the side of the car the same colour as theirs. Same story with the police, asked Ikea for the CCTV, told the police have to request it but they never did. Now my cars 16 years old, but thats not the point, it's MY car that someone else has damaged. I take care of it, keep it in good nick, for someone else to just damage it brazenly and drive off because they knew they could probably get away with it is infuriating
Indeed. Most people would say "It's an old shitbox", but it is what it is worth to YOU that matters. And the fact damaging someone else's car and driving off is morally wrong. At the very least I'd leave a note with my phone number, saying, "Sorry, I made a mistake and damaged your car, phone me and we'll chat."
Can't imagine the police doing nothing if she dented a police car.
"Oh well. It's on private land. We should have known better." 🤷♂️
“It happened on private property so there’s nothing we can do” So if I was say, the IRA, would I get away with bombing a car on private property?
As long as none of the debris lands outside the public property, otherwise they'd prosecute you for littering.
@@littlebluepanda394 😂😂😂
@@littlebluepanda394 Doesn't even need to land on public property. I've seen people fined £80 for a receipt dropping out of their pocket on private land as it *could* end up on public property.
According to this, seems like you can!
How ridiculous to compare terrorist bombings to a hit and run accident.
Judging by her parking ability she could do with a few lessons
Definately could do with a retest, when you get to a certain age i.e. retiring age, then you should have to do a refresher course, our faculties deminish with age and certainly cannot react so fast, as much as I want my freedom I wouldn't risk hurting someone for it.
More like handing her license in
@@will4may175 why 'retiring age'? It would be sensible to retest anyone after any insurance claim against them - and anyone who is banned ought to have to take a retest as a matter of course to get their licence back. (If they lose their licence and have multiple categories, tough. They get to do them all again!)
@@steezyraptor8508 Which would be safer for everyone around her, although the guy sat in the car is just as bad aiding her esscape.
How funny would it be if her insurance company or someone made her do some lessons like when caught speeding-and she had to go with Ashley?!
Still galling, though. She's out there, probably denting another even as we speak.
If she's that bad at 5mph parking, how bad is she going to be a 30, 40, 50 mph... Police are only bothered about raking in fines from cameras, when it comes to actually paying someone a visit then yea CBA. -_-
@James Stewart get it right after hitting 20 cars? maybe hitting few people? some people do not belong on the road, it's as simple as that
You mean denting another expensive car and then parking somewhere else.
@James Stewart What practicing hitting rather expensive cars, really? until then she is possibly also a potential high risk on the road even to pedestrians.
@@kal9001 I think anyone would be extremely bad at 30mph parking
This is why I always park at the back out the way in the empty spaces. No one can be bothered to walk the extra 1 minute from the car park.
I do this too, but often still come back to my car to find someone parked next to me, usually a van :(
I parked far away and on a corner,reversed in like he did,came back with a Corsa the parked really close to my drivers door,i struggled getting in! No damage to my door thou.I got in my car after shopping,my door really pushing against her door to get in,i didn't care as i had no choice to squeeze in without pushing against her car.I saw 2 young girls walking towards me and knew it was them as there were no exit/path past my car,dead end.Dunno if i damaged her door lol I took awhile to get in and made it clear to them what they did by struggling.Not heard anything.
You can fill in a V888 form from the DVLA to obtain the information about the registered keeper, as you have a reasonable reason for wanting information about them. You can ask for their name and address, which you can then use (along with your dashcam footage) to claim against their insurance instead of yours. This, of course, depends on the lady’s car actually being insured - if it wasn’t, it could be a reason why she didn’t stop - and whether or not you decide you want to make a claim or pay for it from your own pocket. Hope this helps and you can get it sorted :)
If she didn’t have insurance, that’s even more of a reason for the police to contact and charge her accordingly.
@@EarlSquirrelsonn It's insured, you can check online.
Good advice, I was going to suggest same. But further to that, if police don’t fancy helping, once you get the V888 you can always pay her a visit yourself as you will get her address. But you seem far too relaxed for that! If it were me, I would be paying her a visit and causing a similar amount of damage to her car which would most likely write it off private land or not. Utter scum bag.
Or…..Go to her address and pour a bucket of paint stripper on her car…..Yeah yeah…not being a proper citizen etc etc….but still. Might stop her doing it to someone else if she realises actions have consequences.
@AbhiTek_ would your insurance company not do this for you if you had the reg number of the car that hit yours?
In similar circumstances my insurer's pursued the other driver up to the court stage and we won.failure to report an accident to insurer's will effect the premium if insurer's find out on both sides.Please take her through the process and get the menace off the road
I admire Ashley's calm view of this situation .... very philosophical.
I knew the Police would not get involved and that is a real shame. As you said there should be a deterrent and she should have been prosecuted or given points. One thing I love about the Tesla Model 3 is the sentry mode and it’s ability to record when people come close to the car. I’m glad the insurance have sorted this though.
Somebody dented my door in IKEA car park, it was a big dent, no way could it have been accidental. I contacted the store and asked for cctv footage, and the store refused. I contacted the police, and they said you need to contact IKEA! Neither were not interested at all. Now I am £200 down out of my own pocket
@@JamesSmith-uv9og Shocking James. It’s just laziness
@@JamesSmith-uv9og they would have given it to the police tif they'd asked. GDPR they can't just hand out CCTV to anyone
@James Stewart 😂
@@Mark..P I don’t think so, they were obviously covering something up. They seemed rather reluctant
This is why I park horizontal across 3 spaces.
Range Rover much? 😂
I've witnessed worse than that! Yesterday an elder person parked in front of two disabled bays blocking them AND the road.
You'll stop parking like that when two cars box you in. lol
Clamp!
You could park in the middle of an empty car park and find someone parked next to you when you came back.
This actually happened to me. Parked up at a Morrisons pretty early on a Saturday so the car park was almost completely empty and I parked at the far end where there were literally no other cars in that half of the rather large car park.
When I came out there was another car, the exact same model and year as mines just in a different colour parked in the bay next to me which was fair enough because it's an enthusiast car and sometimes it's nice to perv on other people's car when it's the same as yours.
I admired our cars for a moment, put my shit in the boot and got in my car ready to leave when some dipshit in his much newer estate model pulled up in the bay on the other side of me and immediately swung his door open right into the side of my car.
@@rsoss92js It proves my point. I wasn't joking and I think that it a herding instinct. The mind boggles. I hope that you made him pay for the repair/paint job.
@@RonSeymour1 I don't think it's a hearding instinct so much as some people like to be dicks. It gives their lives meaning.
This is what rattles me in a car park. You find an empty space (i have kids) and sometimes child and parent is full but when i return to the car park theres cars either side of mine but theres x amount of spaces all around them 🙈🤬 i mean i'm not saying the're not entitled to park where they want but why park next to another car when there is loads of empty spaces. RANT OVER 😂
@@VSTV1993 because some people are dicks. Seriously, that's all there is to it.
So now the old lady is going to keep on doing this, joke police
She is just another incompetent driver. if those are her parking skills, what are the rest of her driving skills like?
She may be priced off the road when her insurance company have to pay out and take account of her don't care attitude.
@@neilharrison7555 they'll be arsed after shes run someone over prob, even though it could have been prevented
Typical elderly drivers, say no more. They are a liability
@@JamesSmith-uv9og Some are, some are not. You get inept and careless/dangerous drivers in all of society. Youngsters will speed, the not so young will drink and drive and the elderly may be more careful drivers but may ignore failing eyesight. That doesn't make everyone in those groups a risk. I am 74 and have never had a speeding or parking ticket. Never been stopped by the police and the only non-serious accident I had was when I was younger. (55) and that was caused when some idiot pulled onto a roundabout from standing and then slammed on his brakes as I checked right, and nothing was coming.
Hi ash. Had a similar incident happen to me at the start of the year and it only felt like I was punished for it. I was parked up at work and decided to stay and do some extra hours, in that time a car had hit me in the carpark, somehow making a mess of three panels on my golf. I was very very lucky that somebody witnessed it and wrote the old ladies reg down. She knew she hit me, got out of the car and looked then drove off. The lovely lady left me a note with her details and the reg of the driver. I got in contact with the police who did handle it brilliantly, they visited her address and she accepted liability and I got her details but sadly as my car was damaged and i needed it fixing, I’d already gone through my insurance by the time she accepted it. I had to pay £300 per month for my insurance for the next 9 months! It was a nightmare. It only recently got cleared and I’m now paying peanuts so I guess it’s worked out in the end. Hate that people will damage such expensive property and try to just walk away.
Great story, information and production quality. Loving these vids! Congrats on the growing success Ashley.
It's been a while since I passed my test, but I've learned from Ashley that you can never stop learning to be a better driver. I live these videos.
Ashley, your videos came into my recommended list around 6 months ago. I have a keen interest in driving matters and I have to say I wish you were my instructor back when I was learning to drive. You're definitely one of the best instructors out there and you're a credit to the profession.
As for the police response, it's not surprising at all. Other people have made valid points about their attitude. The fact that it had to get passed to someone with "higher authority" tells you the state of policing today. In other YT videos they have been seen googling the laws on their phones!
I very rarely reverse into a parking space. There is a problem with reversing into spaces when out shopping, that it is very difficult to empty your shopping trolley into the boot if you don't have access to the back of the car.
I agree but prefer to reverse in. I chuck my shopping on the back seat as it floats all over the place in the boot.
Typical police response. It is a good job that you know the laws and can argue the case with the police instead of just getting told to do one. It just shows you that sometimes you need to get the facts all in order before speaking to the police. Hopefully your insurance company will contact her insurance and get the money back from them.
I had someone Lane change into me causing damage to my front wing. He pulled up but not to give me his details just to physically assault his female passenger and kick her out the car. Given the manner of his driving and his behaviour I suspected he was drunk or under the influence of something. The police did attend to ensure the passenger was OK and take details from me but a couple of weeks later I got a letter saying they were unable to trace the driver. Direct line on the other hand did manage to trace the driver and get his insurance company to pay up for repairs.
Just go to show how useless some members of our police force are. One person can’t/won’t do something, another person can/will!
Been waiting for this update!
it's always the old woman in a crappy early 2000s hatchback that has no idea of their surroundings that causes damage like this. total lack of awareness, shouldn't be on the roads
Yes, the next thing she hits might not be just metal and plastic, but skin and bone.
I nearly had an old man reverse into me (not my car!) in a Tesco’s car park. I had to literally dive out of the way. I knocked on his window to question his driving ability, he had no idea that he almost killed me
@@Hysteria2003 there definitely should be a mandatory retest at age 70 or something as your getting these old people who took their test in 1948 in an Austin 7 using hand signals when there for 4 other cars in their town. These days with how busy, fast paced and aggressive the traffic is thier skillset is totally outdated.
@@Jack-hg1hq I think at 70 you get a medical to test if you're fit to drive. You have to renew it every 3 years I believe.
@@paulinagotfrydits one thing to say your physically capable of driving, its a whole other thing if they are good at it or not
Credit to you for being so calm and level headed. I just know I’d never be as composed as you.
That lady shouldn’t be in control of a vehicle, nearly hitting the bollards whilst reversing after already hitting you.
I used to work for Sainsbury’s, the amount of cars damaged in the car park was incredible, I remember one old woman managed to hit 10 cars in one incident, the police definitely got involved in that one.
Really poor showing from the police.
Your one damaged your car and suffers no consequences. How does that work.
If I went out and purposely did the same amount of damage in my local supermarket car park, I’d 100% be expecting some sort of punishment.
If she'd have hurt your feelings on Twitter 6 of them would have kicked her door in
The problem with the UK car parks is that they are too small. It is a major issue to open car doors without touching the car next to you. In the USA car park bays are so wide; you could fit a Range Rover in very comfortably.
My parking strategy is exactly the same. Have a dashcam hardwired front and rear. Luckily I drive a 4wd with steel front bar and rocksliders on the side, even if someone would hit my car they are more likely to damage their car and leave mine unscathed. Recently discovered your channel and have been binge watching, love your attitude towards other road users and calm and informative tips. Keep it up!
As always, another nice video!
I can recommend the Thinkware range of dash camera’s, when hardwired they have a very good parking mode. I personally always park as far as possible from the main entrance of whatever retail establishment I’m visiting so to lower the risk of dents etc. The amount of times I see people getting out of cars and swinging the door open into the adjacent car is ridiculous. Another tip is not to park next to 3 door cars as they usually have larger & heavier doors resulting in more potential damage when opened and I never park next to really old cars as they have nothing to lose anyway. Rant over.
I like your attitude and appreciate what you are doing to foster a good driving community. I once skidded on some black ice into a parked car which in turn moved a half foot and picked up some kerb damage. I felt awful and didn't have any paper to leave a note. I waited 2hours parked opposite and the owner returned. He hadn't noticed anything. I had to run over as he would have left. Turned out to be an unmarked police car and far from being angry the guy was surprised at my honesty. The matter was settled quickly and my conscience is intact. It really is a simple matter of accepting responsibility. It saddens me that neither the driver or her passenger made any attempt to take responsibility for their actions.
Old video I know but this video calmed me down alot after being a victim myself of a hit and run on my car last night whilst the car was parked outside my house. Thanks bud, great video!
I had exactly the same thing happen to me but the lady hit my car 3 times then drove off.the security men on the cameras gave me the video and I tuck it to the police and she admitted responsibility and paid for repairs
Plus what if she or anyone hits a police car in a car park then how's that work is there nothing they can do.
Would be good if someone else finds out...
They would probably change their tune quick enough then.
I agree with you on parking in specific places. I am always very careful with this as many people are terrible at parking. Luckily in Australia though, we have larger parking spaces than in England (usually).
Thanks a lot Ashley for pointing out the potential pitfalls of parking on car park's with their narrow deadly little parking bays and all.. I wish I could be as calm and deep thinking as you following such an incident but my anger levels would be critical and I may do and say things to regret later I am afraid.. Thanks for being selfless and sharing your wisdom and experiences with your fellow motorists mate..👍👍
When parking like that I make it a rule to leave by turning left, when I turn right I risk clipping that hidden cheeky little kerb!
You and I have the same parking strategy! It drives my (non car owning) friends nuts as they have to walk an extra 5 metres!
Honestly though, it drives me nuts that people who do this almost always get away with it. Judging by her abysmal parking and reversing skills, I would agree she has probably done this before and will do it again.
It's happened to me six times in the past eleven years. Just caught my first H&R on my dash cam! Bought one after someone wrecked my front quarter panel, broke the headlight and indicator, popped my tyre, bent a suspension link and left the car undriveable. Had to get a flatbed.
Nice update Ash, with some key learning points too! Lots seem to have a full DL? But not the required skills for sure... 🥴🤦🏽♂️
Don't park next to the trolley park either.
Sue her for the damage and inconvenience.
My old Passat had heavy duty bump strips along the side, it would have shrugged that off- why are cars so fragile now?
Damn she's dangerous. rams into you first, then almost reverses into something else and then has to back out 5 or so times to finally park. Am I weird for not trusting peoples driving skills if they always park in forwards?
I always presume people who drive nose in are stupid and lazy.
Yes.
Parking forward or backward has little to do with driving skills. It's usually about convenience. Somewhere like b and q I generally park nose in as it's easier to open the boot and load up. Doesn't mean I'm any better or worse of a driver.
@@meh276 key word there is "always".
@@woutervanr I always park nose in. Usually for boot access. If you can't reverse out of a space, you can't reverse in either. doesn't change my driving ability in any way.
@@FFVoyager I always presume people who insult others on the internet can't be bothered to consider anyone elses point of view.
I always park at the furthest away spaces. I used to have a lovely Subaru Outback, and I took my mum to Sainsbury's, parked at the very edge of the parking spaces, no cars near me for a good few rows in all directions. Came out to a smashed mirror and scrape on the door! Now I've got a wee Focus, it just gets parked anywhere now, with out much of a worry!
When I got to public car parks, take the Tesco near me, I always park as far away from the entrance as I can. Less people park further away so it tends to be quieter.
I tend to look for the spaces nobody goes to; right at the back of the carpark, then nobody parks near you.
Same here. My mum hates me as she has to walk further to get to the shops but it puts my mind at ease. It's also quite busy around the shop entrances which I wouldn't want to be around most of the time during covid
But isn't it galling when you park miles from anyone, and someone still parks right next to you?
It's a flash car. I'd be more worried about parking out on its own as it would be easier for a thief to steal compared to parking in a more crowded area.
Same here, but there’s always that one person that’ll still park next to you lol
until you park there, then they flock to that area.
Police wont even investigate if you have had a rock thrown through your house window and broke into, let alone investigate a scratch on the side of a car
"its private property there is nothing we can do"
This is why it’s important to have a dash cam in your vehicle. Things like parking mode and impact recording are a must. WiFi is also a good feature as you can view recorded footage directly on your smartphone.
I’ve been on both ends of this situation. Many years ago, when I was young and foolish, I clipped someone’s car and drove off. However, there was a witness and I was prosecuted for failing to stop/failing to report. This was on a public road, however, rather than a private car park. It taught me a lesson, though.
More recently, I’ve been on the receiving end of car park dings and one more major incident and none of those offenders owned up or were caught, sadly.
Police are too busy monitoring twitter for mean or offensive tweets lol
This comment has been reported to the internet police. Expect to be sent to the gulag soon.
@@oyvey304 LOL
They didn't prosecute Sir Jimmy Saville, they didn't prosecute Sir Cyril Smith, so it is not surprising that they didn't prosecute her.
Buggering little kids and buggering little BMWs is slightly different but I see your point
@@bluesky4733 buggering little BMW’s 🤣🤣🤣
@@bluesky4733 😂😃😂😃😂😃
She doesn't know which way to turn either.
Thanks for the information, I genuinely didn’t know the facts and the law on this matter, I feel for you when you say it’s only plastic and steel that was damaged, I don’t own a new car but when I park on a car park i try to leave sufficient room for others. People who damage other people’s car’s then drive away are selfish and arrogant, hope you’re car gets repaired soon
Hey man nice channel.👍 Can feel your pain. Last year. Had parked mine at far and quiet corner of the ASDA carpark only to come back to about 14inch vertical dent on my driver door.🤦 No note or nothing. Had to spend 200£ on DPR. Lucky paint wasn't damaged.
You can bet that if you had been a copper or worked for the cops.
It would have become a police matter they would be doing something.
One rule for them, another for the rest of us.
My mum got charged and had to appear in court for the exact same thing, she didn’t realise to her mistake however she got fined £1100 and 6 points
Yeah, yeah... That old chestnut. 'I didn't realise'..
When you grind up against another car... YOU KNOW.
@@sahhull no definitely I agree with you, for every offence there is a defence always remember that, it went court I wasn’t there and this was when I was very young, I’ve been driving over 10 years and I would 100% know
Hi Ashley
As an ADI both Learner and Fleet qualified (1983 and 2008 respectively) I watch your clips with interest and concur with all your sentiments about minimising car park risk. Most recently my daughter had exactly the same thing happen to her car. Despite her F&R dash cams, it failed to get the Reg No. of the 4x4 that reversed into the rear N/S passenger door (massive dent). As the car park was covered by cctv she has made a FOI request to the car park owners and is currently waiting their reply.
As you say, some (too many these days) people have no morals or conscience and with the Police not prepared to take the matter further it will get worse.
Ashley, it must be something to do with DIY shops as a very similar thing happened to me at Wickes. My camera was off but I was fortunate enough to come out of the shop just as the culprit was leaving. It was a white van that had been parked in the next space but, like you, I had parked as far away from it as possible in what was actually a very wide space. He just pulled out at too sharp an angle and scraped across the front corner of my car. My insurance also waived the excess as it was clearly the other driver at fault and it was fully settled by his insurer but, annoyingly, it is still showing on the insurance accident database as being my fault (this happened in August 2018) which has an impact on my insurance renewals. I have tried, and am still trying, to get this put right but, although it sounds an easy fix, I haven't succeeded yet.
That lady was just asking for lessons, just in a poor way.
Your comment deserves more likes haha
😆😆 I was frowning, until I read this comment.
Oh god, police having to do their actual job?! What horror!
Not really surprising though.
I had a similar incident in a Mcdonald's car park not far from where I live last year. But without dash cam footage chose to pay to have the damage repaired myself across my front bumper and below.
The manager did say that of course only the police would have access to CCTV and I had a feeling going to them would be a waste of time. I now know that it would have been for certain after watching this video. One lesson I learnt now is only to park in wider spaces in my Golf R, if not park somewhere further away and walk.
Sadly there are many incompetent drivers these days who can't park properly to save their lives.
I know the feeling, I only just got my Audi A5 back in August 2019 and at Tesco car park got a scuff on the wheel arch front right. When I asked for a video footage for the insurance was told violates data protection.
A dash cam is a solid investment but your lucky it was running for sometime.
Mate you have a BMW arent you allowed to park across 2 spaces?
I'll bet he's easy to spot on the road....
It's the only BMW with indicators flashing.
I once saw a Mclaren parked across two bays. It didn't stop a pensioner trying to park in the half space at the side. I was driving past at the time so I'll never know if he managed it or not.
Peter Pan that’s exactly what I would do, ignorant pricks parking over 2 spaces 🙄
Wild West in car parks now it seems.
In life. Everyone's out for themselves.
I parked in a small pub car park some thirty years ago and before dash cams - only to return to find the offside passenger door crushed in and an empty car park. Many drivers have no conscience. It’s one of the risks today’s drivers take. Good advice, Ashley.
I watched this with much interest (as I do with your other excellent videos too) but this one was particularly thought provoking. In such car parks I always park further away from the stores where there are fewer cars, as you suggest. The only problem is that these areas are also where the "boy racers" sometimes meet up, but I've never seen any driving antics from them so far (I live in a different part of England). If a car park is busy, then I also do the same as you advise, by trying to find a free bay at the end of a row and parking near the outer kerb, which usually does give you a lot more space on the opposite side. I only drive used cars which I mostly service and maintain myself, so the odd dent or scratch I can usually repair. But as you say, it is only a metal box at the end of the day. The big problem is that the majority of people are just so impatient, irresponsible and inconsiderate nowadays, so they just don't care if they damage someone else's car with their bad driving. However, after watching many of your videos, and especially this one, I am now seriously contemplating buying a dash cam with front and rear views. Many thanks and please keep up the good work, which is much appreciated and very educational to watch (and I have been driving a car for nearly 40 years and a motorbike for 20 years).
Disappointing that the police will not prosecute, simple incident, clear video evidence, a clear view of her face. I'd guess any solicitor wold advise her to plead guilty, 10 minutes of court time.
Watching it again, when she hit your car, the passenger did not flinch. This suggests she has done it before, as he's quite used to it.
I feel like going trough insurance has become a last resort mean to get things done...
I live in Paris, streets are tight and bigger cars don't even fit in the 2 meter wide parkings spots. In 12 years of ownership of our Saab, we have reported 3 incidents to our insurance company and they ended up terminating our contract despite the fact that we were never at fault and were always able to provide the information of the driver at fault...
When you get your contract terminated by an insurance company, it is very difficult to find a company that will work with you. In order to re-insure the Saab, we ended up going to insurance companies saying "if you work with us, we will insure our five cars with you + the house".
I once hit the mirror of a parked car, I stopped, left my phone number on the car and ended up paying 80 euros for the repairs and that was the end of it. The owner of the other car couldn't believe I had the decency of owning up to my mistake.
Really interesting and informative
I've only once attempted a hit and run. As a student, I was manoeuvering out of a small carpark. I reversed and thought I hit another car. After another couple of minutes turning round (yes, the car park was tiny) I got out and found I had hit a low garden wall. Big, big sigh of relief.
One evening I had a knock at my door and a new neighbour I had never met apologized for hitting my car while turning his lorry. My driver's door was banged in and I couldn't open it. Kudos for being honest as I would never have known until the next day.
If I was in the same situation, I would try to wait for the owner to turn up, apologies and share my details if need be.
Question : If someone murders someone on "private land", is it not a police matter, then?
See: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/part/VII/crossheading/duties-in-case-of-accident
The legal requirements for car accidents only apply on public roads or other public places, e.g. car parks. But the law against murder has no such territorial limits.
@@derekp2674 Isn't running over a small child and killing them in the Tesco car park a car accident?
@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda I think murder is defined as a deliberate action in law so would never be an accident.But I'm no lawyer...
@@derekp2674 But I'm not talking about murder anymore.
I am talking about running over a small child and killing them in the Tesco car park accidentally.
That would be manslaughter.
Or wouldn't it be because it is on "private grounds"? (it's a rhetorical question, as have been they all).
@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda Yes I think that could be manslaughter see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter#English_law
Very well put video, Iv never hit or damaged another car in 22 years , but yes oh my days have received so much damage to my cars while they are parked :(
Great video Ashley I take exactly the same approach as you in a car park usually parking furthest away from the store too. To be honest this lady shouldn’t be on the road it’s a relatively small car she’s driving and yet it seems like she has no clue of how to control it. The fact her passenger has to physically bang on the side of the car to prevent her from ramming the trolley bay after she side swiped your car says it all really.
Quite amazed police wont act on this. You got clear footage with numberplates and her image saying 'i never done that'. Private property or not, the lady should be held responsible. I'm quite certain Dutch police would have acted on this...
Police in the UK are only bothered when they can collect revenue for themselves. Anything else isn't worth the paper work.
UK Police is too busy to chase people which write offensive comments in social media ;)
As a cyclist in UK, I was ignored by police many times so far, when reporting bad drivers (with evidence on camera).
So results of lack of police on the road are visible already - a lot of "lunatic" drivers on road (drunk, on drugs as well), only slowing down when passing speed cameras.
In last 10 years i NEVER seen anybody stopped by police.
@@stanley3647 If you have footage of bad drivers you can send them in to the Police, there's a guy on YT who regularly does it and posts on his channel - CyclingMikey
@@jamesardrey1069 there's much more imprtant issues than some guys' car that got hit in the car park. The police are understaffed, and over worked. Though the response from them could've been the truth, that they don't have time to deal with the incident, as there are more important things to deal with.
@@humanperson4605 understaffed and over worked. Hilarious. It's more like over paid and under qualified
Guess we aren't surprised by this.... 😕
Judging by the height of the damage caused by others doors in car parks it seems to be usually by high up vehicles, vans, 4×4s, people carriers, SUV's and such like vehicles where you have to step up whilst swinging on the door.
The car I drive for work, I always position in two spaces and if possible under a camera. They will look down on me for taking up two spaces, but the car is a 300.000 luxury sedan. It isn't illegal. It also has a dashcam and track & trace hardwired in, along with a few other security features.
Would your insurance not have contacted hers through her reg and after seeing the footage and sorted it out between themselves?
this is the correct procedure that happens in parking areas such as supermarkets. and he has footage as proof. i think he's not telling us the full story here.
Wow, if she'd made an unacceptable tweet they would be there in a shot!!!
@Aug 99 nope, just a realist
@Aug 99 Sir, or should I call you non genderist, your attempts to troll are that of an 18 year old. Please try harder. 4/10
@Aug 99 yes, right n proud of it.
@Aug 99 yawn, get a job, pay your taxes, inject testosterone, try the gym, talk to women, kiss a girl, you might like it
Very informative video. RTA explained and the two offences that were committed explained. You were quite right to push this further and correct the police about the initial advice you were given.
It's annoying that no action will be taken by them despite the blatant evidence given and I agree 100 % that this does not act as a deterrent if it is the forces stance on investigating similar matters.
The driver at fault was totally dishonest and surely must have known she had struck your car. The passengers reaction in the video shows he knew she had struck it and why did they feel the need to have a look at your car, well that's because they knew that to be the case. The fact she parked her car elsewhere instead of leaving her car in the space next to your car is another indication of guilt.
Finally and the thing that bothers me the most is the fact that you were given initial advice by police officers that no offences had been committed because the car park was private. What other things do they believe are not offences. How many times have they given the public the wrong advice and failed to do their duty.
Thanks for sharing this.
I reversed into a spot once, came back out and my headlight had been backed into and completely smashed up. After looking online, i noticed that everything on the rear of the car costs about a third of the front, so I often drive forward into spaced now!
What really annoys me when people can't own up to a mistake and instead go straight into denial and get defensive. With no punishment why should she care when she can get away with it. Luck was on your side here mate.
Even if you park quiet area, someone will still park next to you.
Yes because they feel it’s safe. Nobody likes to park somewhere all alone they feel safer if it’s next to someone
Nice video mate!
Video hasn't even been out for the length of time it would take to watch it?? lol
@@lx3469 One of those "FIRRRRRRRRSSSST!!!1" comments in another form, it seems.
I still can't believe how calmly and professionally you have approached the situation. Sorry to see what happened, especially if this is a recently bought car. All the best Ashley, but IMO this woman should be reported again until the justice is being served.
I remember something similar happening on my industrial estate. Somebody reversed in to my car and broke my headlight lens. My car was parked outside my workplace and had a nest CCTV camera covering it too. I had a look at the footage and the person who did it was none other than the local courier who comes to our unit pretty much every day at the same time. He must have been terminally stupid to come back because I was waiting for him with footage and asked him why he didn't tell anybody about it. He didn't really have an answer and expected to get away with it. Anyway, we managed to sort it and he paid me £300 for a new headlight and a few hour's labour because the front bumper has to be removed to change headlights on my Audi.
This is just one reason why I drive a pre-dented 15 year-old car. If someone hits me, it's just another scratch to add to the collection.
This is exactly what makes me question why people spend £several-thousands+ on newer cars. All it takes is one idiot to write it off.
@James Stewart You really can’t always rely on insurance, or the police clearly
@@Tombrosapien Ashley did say his insurers had offered to waive the excess, so yes in this case he could rely on them if he wanted to make a claim.
@@tjfSIM Luckily for Ashley yes but generally speaking, when I was a victim of hit and run (actually on a road) back in May, I made a claim and 6 months on I’ve not even heard a fart from my insurance company. Unfortunately I didn’t have a dash-cam but you shouldn’t be obliged to have one to make a claim otherwise what’s the fucking point of even being insured. It’s a piss-take and a scam.
@@Tombrosapien you need to be able to prove it wasn't your fault. How can you do that without a dashcam? Honestly in this day and age there's no excuse whatsoever to not have one.
You did everything right. I also park in an end space where possible and keep as much distance from other vehicles as possible. Unless there is a car taking two spaces in which case I will put my passenger door as close to their driver door as possible whilst staying within the parking lines.
Denial of civil damages becomes criminal damage. under 1971 Criminal Damage Act.
this is the most underrated channel out there.
give the old bat a call and confront her. That would make a good video
I think we all need to give the police a call and ask them to explain why they're not charging her.
Any idea which force it is?
I absolutely agree that parking further away in a quieter area of a car park is the best way, along with parking at the end of a row. A few years ago, just two hours after I picked up my very first brand new car, I did just that in our local Asda. I popped in for not very much, milk and bread probably, came out and couldn’t get to my driver’s door due to a beat up old car parked alongside, loads of empty spaces all around. Thankfully they hadn’t hit my shiny new motor. It turned out they were still in their car and, initially, refused to move. Once I started taking photos they started up and moved off.
I can understand exactly how frustrating it must be for you Ashley!
But unfortunately this is the world we live in and people like this woman who bumped into your car are everywhere!!😮
I had an idea the police would do absolutely nothing! I even commented that on your community post yesterday, when you announced this forth coming video!
Any way they can avoid any involvement in 'minor' traffic bumps like this and let the insurance companies deal with them, is reducing their work load and naughtily, 'manipulates' the real crime figures!!
She probably does this every week, looking at how many bumps were on the corners of her car!
But what this doesn't do is protect the public because one day she'll probably knock someone off a bike or run someone over! 🤔
At the very least the police should have a word with her about the incident!👍😎
Things to do to mitigate this happening in future-
I always park at the rear of this type of carpark, furthest away from the shops, where nobody else parks!
I've even parked straddling over 2 spaces, especially on very tight carparks! There are some carparks I just won't park in, I'd rather find a quiet road somewhere else less busy than risk some scroat dinging my car!
I've even sat in my car and get my wife to go in the shops! Unbelievably some woman parked uncomfortably close to me, could hardly get out of her car, she knew I was sat in there, so you'd think she'd be extra careful? Not at all, as she was getting her children out of the back she slammed her car door into mine!!
She didn't even bat an eye lid lol, not even an apology when I asked her to be a bit more careful and respectful of other peoples property, she couldn't careless! Luckily no dent but a tiny paint chip I found later after a closer examination, which I had to just dab a bit of paint into.😮🤔😔