That seems to be a very popular request and I totally agree, that would be an exceptional camera. In saying that you have two very nice camera bodies there. The Z8 is my workhorse and I love using it.
@stayuntilforever Not a lot wrong with 26mp in fact it's great for low light situations. Personally I would prefer a higher res sensor for its ability to crop in post. For the type of I work I do my clients very regularly change their minds and they magically require different aspects ratios after a shoot (happens a lot). So I tend to shoot wider so I can accommodate different aspects ratios. They use those images for billboards and large print media so you need to have the resolution to spare then. I would actually be happy with 36mp but 46 gives a bit more reach for wildlife photography. I have had a 6mp image printed on a billboard before and it looked fairly good so as you are saying resolution isn't everything.
@@stayuntilforever Same answer as Kieran. I agree that a very big print can be made quite fine with a 24mp, and though a little bit limited even 16mp, sensor. 45mp is overkill for anything I would likely ever need. However, there are times when a significant crop will make a photo, and starting with 26, 24, or less mp, it's gonna become a limiting factor. Best practice is to get the composition right in camera, but reality is that often doesn't happen.
@@kieranhayesphotography for billboards 4mp is enough. No one, company/costumer/student/school/magazine etc has ever questioned my cameras, lenses or megapixels the past 25 years, digital or analogue. No print I have ever sold has been questioned either from 4mp to 98 mp. From 20 dollars to 3000 dollars. A good image is a good image and basically everything is awesome from 8 mp in print unless you put your nose 5 cm away from a 100cm print. I've been printing my images since 1997 and just spend 1500usd on prints fo a big exhibition the past 2 weeks. From 8mp to 26 mp cameras. Biggest print was 100cm x 70cm all shot on aps-c cameras
This summer, I borrowed a Nikon Zf for two weeks through an NPS loan program during a trip to Texas. I was incredibly excited about this camera, so much so that I almost bought one and canceled the loan! Initially, I dismissed reviews criticizing the Zf’s ergonomics, assuming they wouldn’t be a big deal for me. But I was surprised by how uncomfortable I found it to use. My go-to lenses are the Plena, 24-70mm, and 70-200mm, so they are are larger, and they didn’t pair well with the Zf’s design. I also expected to love the camera’s analog dials, but I never used them. While they look fantastic, they’re more suited to a slower, deliberate workflow, which doesn’t match my shooting style. Another unexpected drawback was adjusting to the traditional shutter. After becoming accustomed to the silent shutter on my Z8, the Zf’s mechanical shutter felt like a step backward. The Zf is undeniably beautiful, and I really wanted to connect with it, but ultimately, it didn’t suit my needs. It is so beautiful though!
Hi Michael I could agree more about the ergonomics, I could see it was going to be a pain to hand hold especially with long lenses like you I shoot with a lot of heavier lenses and the design just failed there. I ordered a grip for the review and it worked out an awful lot better. It's no Z8 grip but it was so much better and cost less than $30. Like you I never used the dial but damn it are they beautiful to look at. Unlike you I much prefer the slap of a shutter but then again it all depends on the work you are doing. For me that was my favourite part 😂 Crazy how we all differ and have different styles isn't it? All in all it's a gorgeous camera and I think I will regret not buying it in a few years. I just spent a nice bit of money on a new lens that arrived today so that's easing the pain of returning the ZF 😂 Just not helping my bank balance 😂😂😂
I recently did a full day shooting an event with just the Zf. I knew even before I ordered it I would need a grip, so I got the SmallRig. I have bigger hands. Also definitely needed a grip for my X-T4. Anyway, I was adapting F-mount Tamrons almost exclusively: 15-30/2.8, 24-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8, none of them small or light, plus using the FTZ adapter. I was surprised by how well it worked. I had no trouble shooting that way at all. Even with the 70-200, which I had attached more than any other lens, I could hold it in my hand very easily without any discomfort to speak of, and often just held it to my side when not shooting, rather than even bother putting it on my shoulder using the strap. I usually wrap the strap around my wrist for safety, but that doesn't take any of the weight at all. As for the dials, I really love them. I like being able to look down and see the settings on the dials rather than a screen. It's just straightforward. I loved it on the X-T4, and now my ZF. It's the Z8 that I have to get used to. I made myself shoot it last Sunday at a ceremony, and it's not a smooth experience just yet, though it's certainly down to more than simply not having the analog style dials. Love being back to full frame, and Nikon.
Sorry, can you explain what was happening with the Micro SD card. Does the camera initially write to the MicroSD, and then transfer to the large SD? What if I only have the large SD card in?
Hi, No problem at all explaining it. When you have the camera set to backup so it records photos to both cards, the slowest card will generally be the Micro SD. If you only have an SD card installed and it's a fast card with 250mbs or 300mbs write speed it will be really quick transferring the photos and you won't have to wait for the 20 seconds to transfer the photos. So a fast SD card will solve the problem. The reason for the long delay is also down to shooting 14fps for 7 seconds which is approx 98 shots. That's an extreme amount of photos in a short time.
It really is a very nice camera alright. With the grip fitted it's a good bit better but ya 45mp would be amazing alright. We can keep wishing and hopefully they will hear us 😉
WHY! Did I watch your video Since it came out I have tried to fight it but now you have put it front and centre again, it is a beautiful camera and I might just Snap. Brilliant Review as usual, Kieran, Damn you.
Sorry not sorry but you need this camera in your life, it's a fun little camera to use and oh boy is it a gorgeous thing to look at. I am right now packing it up to go back to Nikon with the 50mm F1.2 and I am wondering would they notice if I just put a two rocks in the box instead :-) In all seriousness though I have really enjoyed using it, it's a fun little thing that packs a serious punch.
@@douglasritchie2836 I bought myself an early Christmas present today of a new lens and it wasn't the 50mm F1.2 I just reviewed lol so I say go for it. Life is too short 😉
Thanks a lot, I have a few more videos coming on the ZF over the next few weeks they are all small variants of the info here in the last two videos but they might be a bit helpful hopefully. Sadly the weather was shocking here and I didn't get time to take more photos that I was allowed to share.
I have the Z8 and I'm looking for an extra travel camera, something lighter but still capable. I prefer Nikon (to Ricoh or Fuji) since I have tons of Z lenses (FX). I have been waiting for an updated Z 50 ii, which just recently was published. Nice little thing. Would fit the bill. But then I must spend some cash to build a line of DX lenses as well. At least two to begin with. That brings me closer in total price to the Zf, which is a much more capable FF camera and wonderful piece of art. I would love to have one, but then again it is not that small, not as handy to carry around and not as ergonomically good. However, I believe it will stand the test of time better than other cameras because of its retro classic design. What do you think? Thank's for great review 😊
I am in nearly the same situation as you, the ZF just today went back to Nikon today and it hurt a little bit to let it go. It really is a thing of beauty and wow can it capture photographs even in very challenging conditions. For me the ZF is a prettier, smaller and cuter Z8 with a lower res sensor but all the brains. I am sorry to say but if I were you I would be preparing myself to spend a bit of money. I would buy the ZF myself but I only just got a new lens from my Nikon dealer today and it cost me more than the ZF so I will have to wait a few months before considering buying that camera. I also have the Z7ii for more out and about stuff and it does the job perfectly. I am not sure if that helps but I hope it does a bit.
@ Thank you so much. I was afraid of an answer like that :) I am sure a Zf will not disappoint. Thank's again for your reviews. Love them, with lots of humor. Wish you a great weekend. :)
@photograficalex sorry but you will love it 😉 Half the time I am laughing at myself when I record the videos, usually because it's my second time saying that but and the first time around I made a mess of it. I am not sure if I am laughing at the mistake or it's a laugh of relief. It's always good to laugh at yourself though. Have a great weekend you too 👍
I had a black FE & my brother had a black FE2 back in the day. So (provided the sensor output looks good) it's the camera for me. Used prices are too high for me currently - (above £1600+ currently), but I'll get one when used prices hit about £1200 (another year to 18 months maybe?) Who knows, maybe the Zf eye-AF will actually work - unlike on the Z6 I bought and then sold again last year.
Oh you will love this camera then... I literally just had it collected there now and it's on its way back to Nikon now but it seriously impressed me and I am seriously considering buying it. Even though I don't need yet another camera 😂 The output is great, the colours are really nice and boy is it a serious step up from the Z6. Same AF performance as my Z8, literally no difference there. Really loved using it and I am sure you will too. Fingers crossed you can get one soon.
An AF joystick would be nice I didn't realise how much I missed it until I went back to using my normal cameras again. As they say it's the simple things in life... Fingers crossed I can get my hands on the Z6iii fairly soon, not sure if or how quickly they will send it out but fingers crossed it will be soon. I did something really stupid yet again today and dropped a good bit of money on a lens and it wasn't the 50mm F1.2 surprisingly :-) All will be revealed soon though ;-)
After months, I have control of the Zf. Manual (with sometimes 'record' shots or some in good light on Auto - that always goes to f/11!)). I CANNOT have any bracketing ON in order to be able to adjust EC Exposure Compensation! That is what I found, so far. There are a confounding combination of way to change or be blocked from changing basic settings! I found I could not change ISO at all - if Auto ISO is on - I have to change ISO and turn off and turn back camera to change.
Hi Steven, sorry to hear you are having problems with the ZF, did you try reaching out to Nikon about the issues? I popped up a settings video for the ZF and the 15 settings I changed that helped make the camera better for me and one of them was dedicating a button for ISO so you can quickly change from Auto ISO to manual ISO. That might help a small bit. There are also a few more points in there that I found helpful. You can find the video here.... ruclips.net/video/uf772zuNKho/видео.html I hope that helps a small bit.
@kieranhayesphotography hello again. Last one and I won't t further bother you. Pleased now with Zf settings. On now to new to me Z7ii and fully manual. In M No EC use . BRACKETING attempts to be OFF. What I one can have set is 0 frame8. Have done U1 to U3 , iMenu and Custom buttons well enough. This EC use is last issue. Any comment , yourself or anyone when time permits is appreciated.
Ya, we should form a protest and request it for free 😉 That would be a lot better. Thanks for watching and if I ever get around to robbing that bank I will buy you one 😂
I would say no 4.2.2 is a slight bit of an issue but the grip and the micro SD aren't an issue really. You can get a good grip for less than $30 and micro SD cards are very capable now, I have a section on both of those points in the video. I would think personally the rolling shutter would be more of an issue than any of them but then again it's using a Z6iii sensor so that was always going to be the case. All in all it's an amazing camera though and I would be very happy to have it in my gear bag.
Would like to see a 45MP Zf. I have the Zf and absolutely love it. Also grabbed a Z8.
That seems to be a very popular request and I totally agree, that would be an exceptional camera.
In saying that you have two very nice camera bodies there.
The Z8 is my workhorse and I love using it.
What’s wrong with the 26mp? I do big prints with 16mp APS-C cameras and they look great 5cm away.
@stayuntilforever Not a lot wrong with 26mp in fact it's great for low light situations.
Personally I would prefer a higher res sensor for its ability to crop in post.
For the type of I work I do my clients very regularly change their minds and they magically require different aspects ratios after a shoot (happens a lot). So I tend to shoot wider so I can accommodate different aspects ratios. They use those images for billboards and large print media so you need to have the resolution to spare then.
I would actually be happy with 36mp but 46 gives a bit more reach for wildlife photography.
I have had a 6mp image printed on a billboard before and it looked fairly good so as you are saying resolution isn't everything.
@@stayuntilforever Same answer as Kieran. I agree that a very big print can be made quite fine with a 24mp, and though a little bit limited even 16mp, sensor. 45mp is overkill for anything I would likely ever need. However, there are times when a significant crop will make a photo, and starting with 26, 24, or less mp, it's gonna become a limiting factor. Best practice is to get the composition right in camera, but reality is that often doesn't happen.
@@kieranhayesphotography for billboards 4mp is enough. No one, company/costumer/student/school/magazine etc has ever questioned my cameras, lenses or megapixels the past 25 years, digital or analogue. No print I have ever sold has been questioned either from 4mp to 98 mp. From 20 dollars to 3000 dollars. A good image is a good image and basically everything is awesome from 8 mp in print unless you put your nose 5 cm away from a 100cm print. I've been printing my images since 1997 and just spend 1500usd on prints fo a big exhibition the past 2 weeks. From 8mp to 26 mp cameras. Biggest print was 100cm x 70cm all shot on aps-c cameras
This summer, I borrowed a Nikon Zf for two weeks through an NPS loan program during a trip to Texas. I was incredibly excited about this camera, so much so that I almost bought one and canceled the loan!
Initially, I dismissed reviews criticizing the Zf’s ergonomics, assuming they wouldn’t be a big deal for me. But I was surprised by how uncomfortable I found it to use. My go-to lenses are the Plena, 24-70mm, and 70-200mm, so they are are larger, and they didn’t pair well with the Zf’s design.
I also expected to love the camera’s analog dials, but I never used them. While they look fantastic, they’re more suited to a slower, deliberate workflow, which doesn’t match my shooting style.
Another unexpected drawback was adjusting to the traditional shutter. After becoming accustomed to the silent shutter on my Z8, the Zf’s mechanical shutter felt like a step backward.
The Zf is undeniably beautiful, and I really wanted to connect with it, but ultimately, it didn’t suit my needs. It is so beautiful though!
Hi Michael I could agree more about the ergonomics, I could see it was going to be a pain to hand hold especially with long lenses like you I shoot with a lot of heavier lenses and the design just failed there.
I ordered a grip for the review and it worked out an awful lot better. It's no Z8 grip but it was so much better and cost less than $30.
Like you I never used the dial but damn it are they beautiful to look at.
Unlike you I much prefer the slap of a shutter but then again it all depends on the work you are doing. For me that was my favourite part 😂
Crazy how we all differ and have different styles isn't it?
All in all it's a gorgeous camera and I think I will regret not buying it in a few years.
I just spent a nice bit of money on a new lens that arrived today so that's easing the pain of returning the ZF 😂
Just not helping my bank balance 😂😂😂
I recently did a full day shooting an event with just the Zf. I knew even before I ordered it I would need a grip, so I got the SmallRig. I have bigger hands. Also definitely needed a grip for my X-T4. Anyway, I was adapting F-mount Tamrons almost exclusively: 15-30/2.8, 24-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8, none of them small or light, plus using the FTZ adapter. I was surprised by how well it worked. I had no trouble shooting that way at all. Even with the 70-200, which I had attached more than any other lens, I could hold it in my hand very easily without any discomfort to speak of, and often just held it to my side when not shooting, rather than even bother putting it on my shoulder using the strap. I usually wrap the strap around my wrist for safety, but that doesn't take any of the weight at all.
As for the dials, I really love them. I like being able to look down and see the settings on the dials rather than a screen. It's just straightforward. I loved it on the X-T4, and now my ZF. It's the Z8 that I have to get used to. I made myself shoot it last Sunday at a ceremony, and it's not a smooth experience just yet, though it's certainly down to more than simply not having the analog style dials.
Love being back to full frame, and Nikon.
Great and really helpful reviews. I love how you always take your time and explain things so well. Thank you!
Thank you so very much for watching and for the kind words :-)
I love my ZF
Would they have needed another drunk priest in the corner? 😂😂😂
On a serious note thanks for the feedback.
@@kieranhayesphotography It's a great channel and I'm a new sub!
@jonfletcher147 ah thanks a million, no pressure to keep it to that level then 😉
Sorry, can you explain what was happening with the Micro SD card. Does the camera initially write to the MicroSD, and then transfer to the large SD? What if I only have the large SD card in?
Hi, No problem at all explaining it. When you have the camera set to backup so it records photos to both cards, the slowest card will generally be the Micro SD.
If you only have an SD card installed and it's a fast card with 250mbs or 300mbs write speed it will be really quick transferring the photos and you won't have to wait for the 20 seconds to transfer the photos.
So a fast SD card will solve the problem.
The reason for the long delay is also down to shooting 14fps for 7 seconds which is approx 98 shots. That's an extreme amount of photos in a short time.
I'd love a 45mp, silver one. My large hands would need a sizable grip, to make using the Zf comfortable. It's certainly a beautiful looking camera.
It really is a very nice camera alright. With the grip fitted it's a good bit better but ya 45mp would be amazing alright.
We can keep wishing and hopefully they will hear us 😉
WHY! Did I watch your video Since it came out I have tried to fight it but now you have put it front and centre again, it is a beautiful camera and I might just Snap.
Brilliant Review as usual, Kieran, Damn you.
Sorry not sorry but you need this camera in your life, it's a fun little camera to use and oh boy is it a gorgeous thing to look at. I am right now packing it up to go back to Nikon with the 50mm F1.2 and I am wondering would they notice if I just put a two rocks in the box instead :-)
In all seriousness though I have really enjoyed using it, it's a fun little thing that packs a serious punch.
@@kieranhayesphotography Thanks, Kieron, I feel an early Christmas present coming on.
@@douglasritchie2836 I bought myself an early Christmas present today of a new lens and it wasn't the 50mm F1.2 I just reviewed lol so I say go for it.
Life is too short 😉
Another Great and helpful video Kieran explained well it is a great camera I do love my one
Thanks a lot, I have a few more videos coming on the ZF over the next few weeks they are all small variants of the info here in the last two videos but they might be a bit helpful hopefully.
Sadly the weather was shocking here and I didn't get time to take more photos that I was allowed to share.
I have the Z8 and I'm looking for an extra travel camera, something lighter but still capable. I prefer Nikon (to Ricoh or Fuji) since I have tons of Z lenses (FX). I have been waiting for an updated Z 50 ii, which just recently was published. Nice little thing. Would fit the bill. But then I must spend some cash to build a line of DX lenses as well. At least two to begin with. That brings me closer in total price to the Zf, which is a much more capable FF camera and wonderful piece of art. I would love to have one, but then again it is not that small, not as handy to carry around and not as ergonomically good. However, I believe it will stand the test of time better than other cameras because of its retro classic design. What do you think?
Thank's for great review 😊
I am in nearly the same situation as you, the ZF just today went back to Nikon today and it hurt a little bit to let it go. It really is a thing of beauty and wow can it capture photographs even in very challenging conditions.
For me the ZF is a prettier, smaller and cuter Z8 with a lower res sensor but all the brains.
I am sorry to say but if I were you I would be preparing myself to spend a bit of money. I would buy the ZF myself but I only just got a new lens from my Nikon dealer today and it cost me more than the ZF so I will have to wait a few months before considering buying that camera.
I also have the Z7ii for more out and about stuff and it does the job perfectly.
I am not sure if that helps but I hope it does a bit.
@ Thank you so much. I was afraid of an answer like that :) I am sure a Zf will not disappoint.
Thank's again for your reviews. Love them, with lots of humor. Wish you a great weekend. :)
@photograficalex sorry but you will love it 😉
Half the time I am laughing at myself when I record the videos, usually because it's my second time saying that but and the first time around I made a mess of it.
I am not sure if I am laughing at the mistake or it's a laugh of relief.
It's always good to laugh at yourself though.
Have a great weekend you too 👍
Looks and brains. The camera is nice, too.
😉
Lol.... Not sure about that, I think the camera is a lot smarter than me and better looking too :-)
I had a black FE & my brother had a black FE2 back in the day. So (provided the sensor output looks good) it's the camera for me. Used prices are too high for me currently - (above £1600+ currently), but I'll get one when used prices hit about £1200 (another year to 18 months maybe?) Who knows, maybe the Zf eye-AF will actually work - unlike on the Z6 I bought and then sold again last year.
Oh you will love this camera then... I literally just had it collected there now and it's on its way back to Nikon now but it seriously impressed me and I am seriously considering buying it. Even though I don't need yet another camera 😂
The output is great, the colours are really nice and boy is it a serious step up from the Z6.
Same AF performance as my Z8, literally no difference there.
Really loved using it and I am sure you will too.
Fingers crossed you can get one soon.
I think the only thing the ZF is missing is an AF joystick. Looking forward to seeing your Z6III review if Nikon sends you one.
An AF joystick would be nice I didn't realise how much I missed it until I went back to using my normal cameras again.
As they say it's the simple things in life...
Fingers crossed I can get my hands on the Z6iii fairly soon, not sure if or how quickly they will send it out but fingers crossed it will be soon.
I did something really stupid yet again today and dropped a good bit of money on a lens and it wasn't the 50mm F1.2 surprisingly :-)
All will be revealed soon though ;-)
Nice insights 👍🙂
Thank you very much for the feedback and for watching 👍
@kieranhayesphotography 🙂👍
After months, I have control of the Zf. Manual (with sometimes 'record' shots or some in good light on Auto - that always goes to f/11!)). I CANNOT have any bracketing ON in order to be able to adjust EC Exposure Compensation! That is what I found, so far. There are a confounding combination of way to change or be blocked from changing basic settings!
I found I could not change ISO at all - if Auto ISO is on - I have to change ISO and turn off and turn back camera to change.
Hi Steven, sorry to hear you are having problems with the ZF, did you try reaching out to Nikon about the issues?
I popped up a settings video for the ZF and the 15 settings I changed that helped make the camera better for me and one of them was dedicating a button for ISO so you can quickly change from Auto ISO to manual ISO. That might help a small bit.
There are also a few more points in there that I found helpful.
You can find the video here.... ruclips.net/video/uf772zuNKho/видео.html
I hope that helps a small bit.
@kieranhayesphotography hello again. Last one and I won't t further bother you. Pleased now with Zf settings. On now to new to me Z7ii and fully manual. In M No EC use . BRACKETING attempts to be OFF. What I one can have set is 0 frame8. Have done U1 to U3 , iMenu and Custom buttons well enough. This EC use is last issue. Any comment , yourself or anyone when time permits is appreciated.
What I hate with that camera..... is the price..!!😏
Ya, we should form a protest and request it for free 😉 That would be a lot better. Thanks for watching and if I ever get around to robbing that bank I will buy you one 😂
@@kieranhayesphotography Thanks... but I can robb my own bank...🤑
I like where this is going :-) Good luck
zero grip and 4-2-0 on video (
no "normal" dual slod sd.
not bad, but not perfect
I would say no 4.2.2 is a slight bit of an issue but the grip and the micro SD aren't an issue really. You can get a good grip for less than $30 and micro SD cards are very capable now, I have a section on both of those points in the video.
I would think personally the rolling shutter would be more of an issue than any of them but then again it's using a Z6iii sensor so that was always going to be the case.
All in all it's an amazing camera though and I would be very happy to have it in my gear bag.