I want to reiterate 2 things: 1) This is a list for Minecraft PvP mice, NOT for bridging, NOT for FPS games etc. 2) At the end of the day, a mouse is simply a tool. A mouse with a worse ranking does not necessarily mean that the user is a bad player. There are plenty of leaderboard players using C or D-tier mice and would absolutely roll someone using an S tier mouse. I only recommend the mice based on what I think more people would enjoy, its quality, and specs, so don't get angry if I've rated your main mouse badly!
you should make a similar video but including bridging and reducing, thats so much work tho. (imo the kain 100 is a good mouse the clicks are light and the shape is good, cable doesnt matter but pvp is about movement after all)
Some ammendments: 1) Model O Wireless - From B Tier to A Tier 2) Starlight 12 (old) - From S Tier to A tier 3) Steelseries Aerox 3 Wireless 2022 - From A Tier to B Tier
i mentioned this during the stream, but ill say it again here. this is a great resource from someone who really knows their stuff in terms of mice and Minecraft 1.8. it would be really cool if you update this every year or something
@@Armegon sorry but you can pick up waaaay better mice at jitter clicking at redragon i jitter clicked 20 cps with one of them even though i suck at jitter clicking
@@saadrkaoken7098 redragon is a trash company who makes terrible mice with bad feet and over 100 grams weight, which is like a brick on a dusty road. the jitter click you are doing is not humanly possible and is done with the help of bannable macros in the redragon software. good luck sending hate to the entire comment section and recommending them trash mice
I wish the roccat kova aimo had more recognition its budget, it drag clicks, and its ambidextrous id love to see you do a vid on it so it could get more popular
pretty accurate to my person opinions on mice, i would however place the bloody a60/bloody a70 better because when it comes to minigames (not raw pvp) I can still butterfly 14 cps with double clicking disabled. it was a great video/stream, i cant begin to imagine how much time this took you
They're generally out of stock most of the time, but they should have some red colourways restocking in the next 2 weeks, then some white ones in the week after
For me the problem with the pulsefire haste is that the clicks aren’t tactile enough for jitter, like I have to put significantly more effort to get same cps as the viper I have. In the same vein, it double clicks SO EASILY so it’s good for butterfly
the xm1r has a weird double click prevention kinda like razer but instead of stoping when clicking higher then 16-17 cps the cps goes lower as your start butterfly clicking its weird. but the shape build qualitu is yummy
Amazing video, thank you for ranking these mice. You helped me to choose which mouse I was going to get, and I do not regret it a single bit. Thanks! If you could also do a bridging mouse ranking, I would love it!
the katar pro wired/wireless is a good option imo both of them can drag and butterfly, though i wouldn't recommend it for jittering since the buttons are not very tactile but if you ever use it the build quality and sensor is very good.
I was looking for this. I own one and it's genuinely better than the model O. It physically double clicks so it's even more satisfying than the model O. Also the clicks are crisp. As for jitter click, I can jitter click 14-15 cps easily
As someone who uses a deathadder mini and really likes the shape (palm grip with incredibly smol hands) this was slightly insulting lol (good video anyways)
I would probably put most zowie mice at around a or b tier bc they have amazing genral quality's and qc alot of them can also double click so overall not a bad pick at all.
Hey, I'm looking for a new mouse that can butterfly click at least 15 cps or higher And I don't know what mouse to get, what mouse would your recommend from this list for butterfly clicking? I use the roccat kone pro and in my opinion its so bad for butterfly clicking
@@jixxed9373 i have the wireless one with the same switches and it triple clicks out of the box well with debounce all the way to 0ms or up to 30ms in software
@@Ethan-pw7qu nah I don’t rlly want wireless because of the delay, it may be small but I would rather not have it. Thx for the suggestion if I ever change my mind :)
@@zerosense870 most popular wireless mice wont have a noticeable delay and sometimes even better than wired mice viper mini is still a great mouse if u dont mind optical clicks shapes cable and feet
@@silk_ yeah the delay isnt very noticeable but in fast FPS games like CS:GO where even shooting milliseconds late can get u ded if ppl are gud with their snipers. I mainly play mc but whenever i play FPS games i prefer a mouse that has very little delay
I have the kone pro, and while its harder to click, when i get the mouse in the right place, i jitter almost 16. In contrast to my viper mini, i can get it in the most comfortable spot and i cant jitter more that 14 :\
I have the viper mini rn and i can jitter 13 cps but i wanna upgrade it to the kone pro (viper mini is a little bit small for me, i have medium hands) and i would like to know if the kone pro worth it for jitterclicking thanks :)
@@eirsyy5106 check your hand sizes, mine is 20cmx11cm, which is on the larger side, and im able to dwarf over my kone pro. And consider Armegons hands, his are pretty tiny, and hes still able to hold the mouse. For jitterclicking, its absolutely amazing for short bursts (I hit 17 cps at one point). But the dull clicking makes it almost impossible to stay at 15+ cps. So i was relegated to 11-12 cps normal clicking. In essence, if your buying this soley for jitter clicking, there are better options. But if you use your mouse for literally anything else + jitter clicking, this is my #1 pick. Short answer: yes
@@eirsyy5106 check your hand sizes first, mine is 20cmx11cm, which i though was gonna be too small, but im able to dwarf over my kone pro easily. For jitterclicking, its absolutely amazing for short bursts (I hit 17 cps at one point). But the dull clicking makes it almost impossible to stay at 15+ cps. So i was relegated to 11-12 cps normal clicking. In essence, if your buying this soley for jitter clicking, there are better options (really only around 1-2 mice that are better). But if you use your mouse for literally anything else + jitter clicking, this is my #1 pick. Short answer: yes
@@eirsyy5106 check your hand sizes first, mine is 20cmx11cm, which i though was gonna be too small, but im able to dwarf over my kone pro easily. For jitterclicking, its absolutely amazing for short bursts (I hit 17 cps at one point). But the dull clicking makes it almost impossible to stay at 15+ cps. So i was relegated to 11-12 cps normal clicking. In essence, if your buying this soley for jitter clicking, there are better options (really only around 1-2 mice that are better). But if you use your mouse for literally anything else + jitter clicking, this is my #1 pick. Short answer: yes
I actually like the kain 100 compared to my model d wireless and the logitech g pro the shape is so good for claw gripping for me i have a kone pro air and its the only mouse that tops it
I just wanna say I think you might have gone a slight bit too far for kain 100 series since the clicks are pretty good and the weight is perfect for almost everyone and the price isn’t as bad as well since it’s around 45-50 dollars if u look hard enough
I want to reiterate 2 things:
1) This is a list for Minecraft PvP mice, NOT for bridging, NOT for FPS games etc.
2) At the end of the day, a mouse is simply a tool. A mouse with a worse ranking does not necessarily mean that the user is a bad player. There are plenty of leaderboard players using C or D-tier mice and would absolutely roll someone using an S tier mouse. I only recommend the mice based on what I think more people would enjoy, its quality, and specs, so don't get angry if I've rated your main mouse badly!
Respect
you should make a similar video but including bridging and reducing, thats so much work tho. (imo the kain 100 is a good mouse the clicks are light and the shape is good, cable doesnt matter but pvp is about movement after all)
Where are my Razer mice?
Mamba/DeathAdder/Basilisk need to be here ⭐️
@@builderbbob they were in the vid
Armegon, so this list is mainly based on jitter clicking right?
Bro can we just appreciate and admire the effort in this vid. Even the time stamps. Respect dude!
Idk how I managed to edit a 2-hour long stream into 25 minutes lmao
lol
i watched the whole stream :D
We know ur extremely gud at the editing game dude
I understand that lol
Magic
i love how you put the model d in d tier
Perfection...
Some ammendments:
1) Model O Wireless - From B Tier to A Tier
2) Starlight 12 (old) - From S Tier to A tier
3) Steelseries Aerox 3 Wireless 2022 - From A Tier to B Tier
can the Aerox double click?
@@edge3369 not consistently
Facts
I needed this. Thank you Armegon and thank you so much for the timestamps in description!
oh my word those time stamps, this video screams effort.
7:04 all fax no cap
True
Just bought a Hyperx pulsefire haste btw incredible vids!
You know what, I'm not actually that mad with the glorious ranking as a model o user.
Impressive.
i mentioned this during the stream, but ill say it again here. this is a great resource from someone who really knows their stuff in terms of mice and Minecraft 1.8. it would be really cool if you update this every year or something
Yeah, I normally update this every 6 months. Deleted the last one cos it was only for jitter clicking
Genuinely, a great vid, I respect you for this, must of taken alot of effort.
I watched the whole stream thx for answering my questions :) I had a great time!
anyone know music which starts at 16:00 and 18:40 ?
were would you put xtfy m42 wirless and pawnage ambi
The kone pro is on sale for 50 dollars so by that how would you rank the mouse?
S tier
I watched the stream though not full
Great choice u got right there man and best mouse is steering wheel :)
I’ve been waiting for a good mouse review vid and here it is
Omfg the effort is amazing!
Respect to this man for doing the timestamps
Razer viper mini or g304 wireless.. Rvm is 0.5k lesser.. I'm looking for wireless though.. Which one should I go?
What’s your hand size in cm?
Like no mouse coatings I’ve tried like the glorious model o is rubbery grippy enough to drag click
Where will you put the katana superlight?
My main mice got E Tier which is fine because atleast you still include it on the tier list
Okay if the G Pro is second best for jitter what is the best? G Pro Superlight?
Yeah
@@Armegon sorry but you can pick up waaaay better mice at jitter clicking at redragon i jitter clicked 20 cps with one of them even though i suck at jitter clicking
@@saadrkaoken7098 redragon is a trash company who makes terrible mice with bad feet and over 100 grams weight, which is like a brick on a dusty road. the jitter click you are doing is not humanly possible and is done with the help of bannable macros in the redragon software. good luck sending hate to the entire comment section and recommending them trash mice
Should i buy the kome pure ultra if i want to butterfly click well and i want a good mouse for fps games?
Is the G wolves hati S wireless ace edition the same is the G wolves hati S wireless?
Better sensor and quality I think, but otherwise, yeah
I would love another ranking video?
Can u do keyboards too
I like to call armegon "The Mouse Addict"
Deluxe m800 pro is what tier if u gotta rate it
I forgot 2 ask u but is the msi gm41 clutch good 4 pvp
question : why do u left click with the right click and vice versa?
Yes
yo where do u rank the viper mini now that you can buy it off of amazon for $19.62
can you review the xtrify m4
Please try the steelseries 310 it’s to this day still one of the best ones I’ve used
I wish the roccat kova aimo had more recognition
its budget, it drag clicks, and its ambidextrous
id love to see you do a vid on it so it could get more popular
What would you recommend Model D wireless vs Kone pro air
Kone pro air
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
Is the black web gaming mouse good?
Pulsefire haste?
pretty accurate to my person opinions on mice,
i would however place the bloody a60/bloody a70 better because when it comes to minigames (not raw pvp) I can still butterfly 14 cps with double clicking disabled.
it was a great video/stream, i cant begin to imagine how much time this took you
PRAY
Piglin
Yo armegon could u do a full review of the kone pro air? Cos i own it and absolutely love it, and i would like to see ur opinion on it.
Yep, soon
amazing work loved the channel since the day i found it
Where can I buy the G Wolves Hati S ACE? Its nowhere to be found
They're generally out of stock most of the time, but they should have some red colourways restocking in the next 2 weeks, then some white ones in the week after
what is difference between glorious wireless and wired other than that one has a cord one doesn't
Glorious wireless has better quality than wired lol, but still has a trash battery life
@@ValenGR86 What type of qualities
@@OopyDoop build quality and better switches on the d and o- i think. Also 0ms debounce on all wireless ones.
@@anytuna But d- is s tier not the d
@@OopyDoop forgor about the d-, they're the same but the d- will suit more people because smaller shape
For me the problem with the pulsefire haste is that the clicks aren’t tactile enough for jitter, like I have to put significantly more effort to get same cps as the viper I have. In the same vein, it double clicks SO EASILY so it’s good for butterfly
EXACTLY, but no one mentioned this before
What is your opinion for logitech g502 hero, because i want this shape for mice , is it good in minecraft or not?
Please reply
Its not bad, but its way too heavy for me. Still quite solid though
@@Armegon Thank you very much, have a nice day 👍
What is the mouse you are using atm?
Hati S Wireless
Is the meta good for jitter?
I can't find the the pwnage symm 2 wireless on amazon could someone e PLEEEASE link it for me
the xm1r has a weird double click prevention kinda like razer but instead of stoping when clicking higher then 16-17 cps the cps goes lower as your start butterfly clicking its weird. but the shape build qualitu is yummy
It got a software update that fixed that
question can we see all of your mice collection? btw love the vid, amazing ranking
What would you say is a decent budget mouse for jitter clicking?
viper mini or logitech g103
viper mini for sure
@@saadrkaoken7098 what about for medium and large hands?
i had a g102 lightsync but why is it a shit shape, quite heavy clicks no double click and heavy weight???
When did u buy it?
yeah, it wasn’t built to double click, the shape is flatter than zendaya, what did u expect when buying it?
Mr armagon which is the best ergonomic mouse for pvp that can double click?
Kone pro Air or D-/D Wireless
@@Armegon ty!!
I was planning on getting the model d minus cuz i bought the model o but its a bit too big
Amazing video, thank you for ranking these mice. You helped me to choose which mouse I was going to get, and I do not regret it a single bit. Thanks!
If you could also do a bridging mouse ranking, I would love it!
Armergron droing it again phrog
the katar pro wired/wireless is a good option imo both of them can drag and butterfly, though i wouldn't recommend it for jittering since the buttons are not very tactile but if you ever use it the build quality and sensor is very good.
I was looking for this. I own one and it's genuinely better than the model O. It physically double clicks so it's even more satisfying than the model O. Also the clicks are crisp. As for jitter click, I can jitter click 14-15 cps easily
I bought ONE light weight mouse and I struggle to use my kain 122 now -.-
lmao
8:05 youre wrong, i dont hate the shape, i hate the MOUSE.
I was here for the livestream!
yo what mouse do u recommend for like $40 maybe 5 or 6 more max
Gamesense Meta
Just gonna say I was here first before this blows up!
As someone who uses a deathadder mini and really likes the shape (palm grip with incredibly smol hands) this was slightly insulting lol (good video anyways)
TY FOR DOING THIS
hey Armegon ik ur not gonna read dis message but what mouse do u recommend under $50 sgd
G203/102
@@Armegon THANKS!!!! btw i love ur vids
I got da Logitech G304 thank you tho :)
dude try out the basilisk v3 it's really good and comfortable also a better version of g502 hero.
U should review the GM41 by MSI as it is a mouse lm considering on getting, and l butterfly click
What would the best mouse be for under 100 Canadian dollars after Canadian sales tax?
Idk the conversion rate nor the tax lol
@@Armegon nvm bought the model d- wireless
I would probably put most zowie mice at around a or b tier bc they have amazing genral quality's and qc alot of them can also double click so overall not a bad pick at all.
The switches are just trash so if you know how to switch them they would be a to s
@@ineedinternetnumbers the switches are huano which is the best feeling and sounding switches how tf are they trash
@@birdgaming9291 5.0 has entered the chat
sbit of context huanos are shit compare to others (even boardzy said they are kinda shit)
Hey, I'm looking for a new mouse that can butterfly click at least 15 cps or higher
And I don't know what mouse to get, what mouse would your recommend from this list for butterfly clicking?
I use the roccat kone pro and in my opinion its so bad for butterfly clicking
Glorious family or hyperx haste it has slim buttons so you maybe dont going to like it
Pulsar xlite is good and not too expensive. Plus its 49grams
@@ValenGR86 nevermind, i was watching some of his other videos and i think i'm going to get the pawnage mouse
@@abcalphabet can it double click?
@@jixxed9373 i have the wireless one with the same switches and it triple clicks out of the box well with debounce all the way to 0ms or up to 30ms in software
12:18 i have litteral baby hands this mouse is perffect for me
I don't mind anything other than the abedless it is very capable of reaching over 20 with eas and the feet make it easy to use
as someone that owns it, the shape is absolute dogshit and it is so fucking heavy
@@Ethan-pw7qu for me a telly bridger and clutcher I find it perfect, but I do agree the shape could have been better
where is the pulsfire haste :(
Its in B tier
this video was so helpful, finnaly i can get a good new mouse
the razer viper mini, for my small hand size is one of the best mice that is within budget for mc pvp and hypixel in general in fact
If you wanted to get a wireless version, get the Pwnage Ultra Custom Wireless Symm 2
@@Ethan-pw7qu nah I don’t rlly want wireless because of the delay, it may be small but I would rather not have it. Thx for the suggestion if I ever change my mind :)
i agree, the razor viper mini is amazing
@@zerosense870 most popular wireless mice wont have a noticeable delay and sometimes even better than wired mice viper mini is still a great mouse if u dont mind optical clicks shapes cable and feet
@@silk_ yeah the delay isnt very noticeable but in fast FPS games like CS:GO where even shooting milliseconds late can get u ded if ppl are gud with their snipers. I mainly play mc but whenever i play FPS games i prefer a mouse that has very little delay
Recently bought Kone Pro air and it feels so good!!
what browser were u using?
Chrome
@@Armegon how did u get the cool theme like its black with gray outlines?
Damn, that hard work
I have the kone pro, and while its harder to click, when i get the mouse in the right place, i jitter almost 16. In contrast to my viper mini, i can get it in the most comfortable spot and i cant jitter more that 14 :\
I have the viper mini rn and i can jitter 13 cps but i wanna upgrade it to the kone pro (viper mini is a little bit small for me, i have medium hands) and i would like to know if the kone pro worth it for jitterclicking thanks :)
@@eirsyy5106 check your hand sizes, mine is 20cmx11cm, which is on the larger side, and im able to dwarf over my kone pro.
And consider Armegons hands, his are pretty tiny, and hes still able to hold the mouse.
For jitterclicking, its absolutely amazing for short bursts (I hit 17 cps at one point). But the dull clicking makes it almost impossible to stay at 15+ cps. So i was relegated to 11-12 cps normal clicking.
In essence, if your buying this soley for jitter clicking, there are better options. But if you use your mouse for literally anything else + jitter clicking, this is my #1 pick.
Short answer: yes
@@eirsyy5106 check your hand sizes first, mine is 20cmx11cm, which i though was gonna be too small, but im able to dwarf over my kone pro easily.
For jitterclicking, its absolutely amazing for short bursts (I hit 17 cps at one point). But the dull clicking makes it almost impossible to stay at 15+ cps. So i was relegated to 11-12 cps normal clicking.
In essence, if your buying this soley for jitter clicking, there are better options (really only around 1-2 mice that are better). But if you use your mouse for literally anything else + jitter clicking, this is my #1 pick.
Short answer: yes
@@eirsyy5106 check your hand sizes first, mine is 20cmx11cm, which i though was gonna be too small, but im able to dwarf over my kone pro easily.
For jitterclicking, its absolutely amazing for short bursts (I hit 17 cps at one point). But the dull clicking makes it almost impossible to stay at 15+ cps. So i was relegated to 11-12 cps normal clicking.
In essence, if your buying this soley for jitter clicking, there are better options (really only around 1-2 mice that are better). But if you use your mouse for literally anything else + jitter clicking, this is my #1 pick.
Short answer: yes
@@pabloschool2610 ok thanks a lot !
try the fantech crypto vx7
I saw this live 😎
I'm getting the xm1r for Christmas happy I saw this vid
you are so underrated
Nice vid! I was looking for some nice mice and I think I like the
Pwnage Ultra Custom Symm 2 Wired, so thank you!
Np.
I have it and it feels nice from a 100 g mouse to 59 g lmao
from this vid, i decided to get the wireless version and i love it
On Amazon the wired kone pro's on sale for 50 dollars usd
did u play with all of those mouses??????
Mice*
I've used about 95% of these before, yeah
Everyone. This is not a review but a ranking. Please read the title. Just pointing that out
i was on that stream and you still didnt answer my question about the exact handsize
What’s the pack?
😂I’m so funny
@@tinyotter3339 ur not
😕☹️🥺
i just dumped $50 for a mouse that is worse than my g102 >:U but no problem great vid
“Any bridges in chat” that made me feel like a god with the main 120 lmao
Where msi clutch gm41
I got a model o wired, it might just be me, but if you get it glossy it has really good build quality
I actually like the kain 100 compared to my model d wireless and the logitech g pro the shape is so good for claw gripping for me i have a kone pro air and its the only mouse that tops it
I just wanna say I think you might have gone a slight bit too far for kain 100 series since the clicks are pretty good and the weight is perfect for almost everyone and the price isn’t as bad as well since it’s around 45-50 dollars if u look hard enough
The weight is heavy for majority of people. I ran a poll and most people use mice in the 60-70 gram range
As for the clicks, they're okay. A bit too tough for my liking
You got a lot of knowledge about mices.
thanks!
if the hati-s ACE wireless drops down to less than 100 usd, imma pick it up
As a starlight 12 user I feel happy