unpopular vocaloid opinions
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
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*Beginner Vocaloid fans:* haha Miku is great
*Intermediate Vocaloid fans:* Miku is overrated, she takes the spotlight off all the other quality voicebanks and she isn't even that cool ugh
*Veteran Vocaloid fans:* haha Miku is great
Me After Joining the vocaloid Fandom: Haha Len is dying..
@Anela Ruth Yamuna Balma I wouldn't go that far, I even went through that stage myself. At some point it does start to feel unfair that her spotlight tends to drown out the other Vocaloids, but eventually it dawns on you that none of the others would exist in the first place had Miku not become the poster child of Vocaloid and you learn to appreciate her a lot more. She became my favorite, actually, so much so that I have her 01 tattooed on my shoulder now.
Anela Ruth Yamuna Balma i actually think your comment was on point tho, even if we all went to that phase, it doesn’t change the fact that it is what it is
They just give up at the end
YOU KNOW RIGHT
Hot take: without miku vocaloid would have gone nowhere. If they never took that step in marketing vocaloid would be dead right now. Miku is the reason this fandom is allowed to exist
Doesn't mean we have to like it though.
It's also why they ship Kaito and Miku as Kaito was really unpopular and was going to be scrapped until Miku and the song cantarella came along game him a 2nd chance. Now he's one of the most popular
@Unstoppable Plays! people seem to treat it as a hot take lately... I'm sure you've noticed
@@ElainaMaruyama it does means u have to like her, but not hate her as well! Not say that she is overrated! Think she is underrated! Miku should be the most popular singer in the world.
AND THAT’S A FACT
Miku isn't overrated, the others are just underrated.
Yes.
Facts
rin is better anyway
@@mizukittyakinyama nah man
Exactly
"I don't understand why people ship Rin x Len"
Me: *whisper* THANK YOU
*whispers* gawd yeaahhh
YESSS
*whisper* yaaas don't ship them
its because you're allowed to interpret what their relationship is (not that I ship them) so in ways its incest but also not incest?
SAME!
*They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.*
p r e a c h
KAKAKSJSHSHHSHSHS
YAS
True
YEA WHY DO THEY HATE ME
I love falling deep into the vocaloid fandom right as everyone's leaving the fandom
T-T
*same here doodlio*
salty goatboy me
Oof me too
im just going to fall into the nostalgia rabbit hole, going 2011 mode fully
it is fun
100% true
Vocaloid got me into japanese stuff.
Japanese stuff lead to anime.
Anime lead to me drawing shit art.
Shit art go me into and art highschool.
Art highschool made me apply to art uni.
Now I'm going to study art next year.
Thanks Miku
Me too, Just with out the art uni part.
Me too, that’s why I want to go to Japan.
Same TBH.
Me except in reverse, minus art school plus tiktok( please don't hate on me because of the tiktok part)
Congratulations friend!
Me: okay I’m kind of getting into vocaloid since I started this decade kind of getting back into anime and have started listening to weeb music.
Vocaloid fandom: haha we’re dead btw
@Frickin’ Fricks I'm sorta new to the fandom but yup, accurate
I actually think the vocaloid fandom is coming back to life a little bit now
Same. Help me.
I don't know if I'd say it's dead, but definitely not as big as the golden days
@@BeeLy1011 it's definitely not dead and won't be dead for a long time especially if you see that magical mirai is getting bigger every year and Miku can successfully tour Europe now.
The fandom has just evolved and whilst it may be less active it's far from dead
Actually I recon it's bigger than ever
rin and len are mirror images, so if you ship them its basically selfcest
YEAH! That's what I was trying to say! THANK YOU
Yea, but ppl who don't know Vocaloid will confuse it with incest.
I think of them basically as twins. Same last name and same voice actress(like a mom) so they seem like twins to me
at the end of the day tho, they're just avatars / characters of a vocaloid 02 voicebank;
some music creators even use those characters as couples to portray love stories (such as suki kirai by HoneyWorks, Hitoshizuku x Yama's Seasonal Feathers and Magical Mirror) , some as twins (daughter of evil series) and some as not related / connected at all (remote control, world domination (neru p) )
just like how we treat miku, kaito, ai, and other vocaloids, we can also image rin and len however we want them to be.
whogoatpandesal couldn’t have said it better myself, thank you 🙏
Kaito isn’t bad, people just don’t know how to use his voice right
You saint among saints 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Just like meiko.
That's so true! Just listen to Warum by MazoP he sounds so hot in that! (might just be due to the sick bass in the background lmao but still) also same problem with Gakupo, except for the V4/Power version, his Voicebank really seems to be hard to make sound right
I hope Kaito gets v6!
There's more of a lilt in his voice which fits particular songs which definitely wouldn't work with other vocaloids, this being especially shown in nyanyannya's Doctor=Funk Beat, and Hyper Gore Flying Squirrel Stick Disappear-y Genius
okay hi here’s the thing is it makes me sad that vocaloid is losing popularity. vocaloid is what got me into studying japanese culture, what brought me closer with my host sister when i lived in japan, and therefore lowkey the reason i’m minoring in japanese. i found this while trying to find new vocaloid songs to study to since i’ve been listening to the same ones since i was 11 (hellooooo double lariat) and idk. this hit different
I totally get you :/
it's definitely not dead and won't be dead for a long time especially if you see that magical mirai is getting bigger every year and Miku can successfully tour Europe now.
The fandom has just evolved and whilst it may be less active it's far from dead
Actually I recon it's bigger than ever
Keekydeeks I think people just think that the fandom is dead because they are still holding on to the classic Vocaloid songs from 2007-2012. Those songs aren’t bad, but people don’t realize that popular artists like Mitchie M, Giga P, and Deco*27 and so many others are still going strong to this day. It’s not that people aren’t making as many songs, it’s that you’re not looking for them.
Andriana With an N Vocaloid songs from 2007-2012 are bangers tho.. I can never get tired of them.
@@radiantheguy I think 07-12 were the best of Vocaloid for the most part, but what's really bad about some of the more modern Vocaloid songs is that they're often... Not as amazing feeling... Like look at White flame back when he used Vocaloids, he was extremely creative with his songs. Using piano or guitar when he darn well pleased. Now most of the promoted songs are techno styled
The English cover one, I FELT THAT. The English covers can be useful/good but it actually bewilders me when a JubyPhonic cover gets more views than the original. And I also feel really bad for the original artist who worked so hard on the song.
Iirc the English cover of Hide and Seek got like 3x more views than the original Korean version and it just irritates me
*cough cough* miss wanna die
literally though, i got so sad when i searched miss wanna die and had to scroll far to find the original, and the ones before were all the english cover 😞
I feel like miku is the reason vocaloid is alive.
True I think
Because she's like the mascot
thats a fact
@@crimidalcrimidal she IS the mascot and i love her
@@riinickanimations4720 Ye ik
miku walked so the others could run lol
"i'm still waiting for Gakupo English and piko v4"
M O O D
piko.. :'(
Piko :'c
@@r.ecollection nah, it's *_✨ m Ø ó Đ 👑_*
piko :(
And vflower
"Except fukase"
Well one does not simply forget our memelord
edit: okay forget what I said the fukase memelord meme isnt funny
*BONELESS PIZZA*
YouLittleBaka N O
Why isn't the memelord memes funny? Isn't it part of his popularity?
quiet let a fanbase interpret characters how they would like in accordance with their open designs and opportunities they were built and released with for this aforesaid free creativity regarding said character.
tl;dr let fukase go brrr
@@bangtan4life813 thats the problem. Im kinda tired of listening to a fukase song and seeing comments like "HAHA MEMELORD" literally everywhere.
"The new Vocaloid always flop and are forgotten"
Me:*gasp*
"Ok except Fukase"
Me:oh I forgive you
same lol. I love Fukase
"okay except Fukase"
me: *happy noises*
Fukase is THE BEST. It's so sad there isn't really that much fandom content apart from songs, memes, and fanart.
Tbh fukase needs more attention than he gets. Everybody says GHOST ruined his reputation or whatever. Idek, he needs more love
I agree with all of u
YESS FUKASE BAD BABY BOI
@@denisdaily5117 kirishima???
Me: Bro I hate Miku, she’s literally so overrated.
*miku song comes on*
Also me: YESS QUEEN BLESS MY EARS YOU MAJESTICAL BEAST. DONT LET ANYONE BRING U DOWN. THIS WORLD IS YOURS HONEY.
na would just like to clarify that I don’t actually hate her. She’s a whole icon and if she ever spit at me or stepped on me, I would cry tears of joy and thank her.
Kaite Hedden same. I sometimes feel like she’s overrated but as soon as she starts singing I start fangirling
@@lukaenjoyer6429 same, its weird
kpoptato :3 because it’s dumb and ugly
Pretty simple
"The world is yours"
Me at 18: I like Miku
Also me at 21: I also like Miku
I’ll stay as a casual fan
"stop making new vocaloids they flop and suck"
Hime and Mikoto: lmao what if we-
“lencest is weird”
that’s not an opinion. that’s fact. like. gross. no. stop. pls.
Legit I thought it was just a meme until I figured out people actually ship it lol
We already have Lenka which makes no sense whatsoever.... Rin and Len are a reflection of each other, male and female, so why add a female version of Len if that already exists??
@@navylavender977 They're twins.. That might be the reason why they... I don't know, everything's so strange.. Maybe they don't want incest so they make him be with himself..I can't understand at all tho..
People LEGIT ship LenxLen
@@yuichirohyakuya1434 they aren't actually twins. They are mirror images. So, basically gender bend versions of each other
To be real I don't even know 99,8% of the new vocaloids. Most os them die so early that we forgot about them pretty fast.
(Sorry for my bad english!)
You should check out boernaut's video called (Almost) Every vocaloid voice ever created - Update. That's how I keep up.
I know right?
I actually forgot that they still making more.
Your English is better than mine half the time. I put writing in the forefront. ( the way I speak it is crap)
@@PeerlessPeach I forget everything when I try to speak English 😕
I agree, I only listen to my favorite Vocaloids anyway.
I honestly don’t really like any covers of Vocaloid songs, I find that people really try to over sing, if you get what I mean. I love Mafumafu, he makes great songs, but when I heard his cover of Snobbism I just though it was way to much. I also just hate how they almost always get more view than the original, and even though they put the og in the description, everyone thinks it’s their song
Only like new utaite fans think that the covers are their original songs? A lot of utaite fans actually end up getting into vocaloid.
This is make me feel akswdekkajrp too and remind me about my friend, he don't like robotic voice so he only hear vocaloid song covered by utaite.
I don't hate utaite, i'm big fan of them. Sorry for my broken english.
Lollia's covers are way better than any other Vocaloid English cover.
I get what you mean yet I don't often listen to the original Vocaloid version of songs and listen to some of the utaite cover, but I'll admit that the original version exists. If I feel curious as to what the Vocaloid/original version sounds like.
Then there are is the animation meme of Snobbism, I don't think people cared to check out the Vocaloid version of it. Just generalizing though I know there are probably people who looked up the Rin Len version of the song but the chances are most likely super low.
True
I'm someone who usually prefers the original song over covers whether it's covered by another vocal synth or human (I rarely listen to human singing though, I'm not into it)
I rarely hear a cover that I like over the original, I don't know but sometimes it feels like there's something missing, or the voicebank used doesn't fit with the song for me because I connect the original with its vocals
I respect your opinion...BUT YOU CANT DO V FLOWER, PIKO, AND OLIVER LIKE THAT! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
RIGHTTTT
Wait what did they say about Oliver?
huhh?
Oliver and Piko aren't part of the new gen of vocaloids tho?? They're pretty old school, been around for 10(?) years or more
@@LivPC I know? Wait what? Why are you telling me this? What did I say?
Also vocaloid decreased in popularity thanks to kpop
Strongly agree with Kate
@Nekomura Tsukiyo hmmm I wouldn't say that kpop was popular when it was a big thing exclusively in Asia
kinda glad tbh. it cleaned up most of the cringey fans fkmgmfmgmg
@@mrrrrrrrrrr that's very true. I think vocaloid has finally lost its long-time "scariest fandom" title. Unfortunately that's kind of going to kpop
@@HyLo-rule i mean yeah, i'm in both fandoms, but definitely seeing vocaloid go to a more mature fanbase is rlly nice ww
I agreed on the 'stop creating new vocaloid' i can't. keep. up.
I only know 7 and i don't want anymore
I love the old and known vocaloids.
I wish the companies can just update the other vocaloid... Gakupo needs that english voice bank.
I mean we’re running out of ideas because I’m pretty sure there’s a hammer UTAU and I mean what more can we get
There's definitely no need to produce new Japanese Vocaloids, only to update the current ones (V4) and possibly the older, abandoned ones as well. We have ENOUGH voice variety for that language, which is great of course. But what we really need is Vocaloids in other languages. We only have 2 Koreans, 3 Spanish, a couple of English, and a few Chinese. What about the rest of the world that are fans of the Vocaloid softwares and musicians?
the rin x len thing is so true. like, i could never ship that. in my eyes they've always appeared more as siblings to me than mirror images and the idea just makes me uncomfortable
I don’t ship Len x rin-
Me: *finally someone agrees*
I also agree on that one!
Same. I mean, yeah, their creator said that they're not actually siblings, but after Story of Evil I just can't see them as a couple.
@@Sheamuscz It not even the "Story of Evil". The entire Evillious Chronicles Rin and Len are shown as twins. Behemo and Leiva (Barisol's child), Hänsel and Gretel (Tale of abandonment), Allen and Rilliane (Story of Evil), Arte and Pollo (Evil Food Eater Conchita). The entire plot line is about Len's soul trying to find Rin again in a way.
But then again, excluding that story which uses their own 'souls' they are normally seen as actors where you can ship the characters (eg man and crane in FAtS, or the two school children in SK) but not themselves. So shipping THEM is wrong but yeah.
@@dr-_-trash7392 Yeah. You're right
The moment you point out about rin x len, I was like " _the subject has been brought to light_ "
Lovelove Mikira Yes, I was like “Finally!!!”. I know that the producers of these models havent confirmed about their relationship but it still gives me weird feeling when I see them having romantic feeling toward each other ...
@@chatterbox1078 i heard they are actually cousins which is stil gross.
ikr omg..
@fandomtrash. exe ahh yeah, now that I've been in the fandom for awhile longer I know that they're actually mirror images of eachother and their relationship is up to interpretation.
#MakeVocaloidGreatAgain
I miss too the golden era of Vocaloid. I talk about Vocaloid to my K-pop fans friends and some said they left Vocaloid fandom for the K-pop fandom, and that is a thing that makes me kinda sad, because you perfectly be fan of Vocaloid and K-pop.
(Sorry for my bad English, I'm Spanish xd)
(Edit; Thanks for the likes ♡♡♡)
Mai Waifu not shaming anyone but
Vocaloid>Kpop
@@kerchewy2571 Agree. I don't like K-pop btw, I respect it xd
@@kerchewy2571 agreed
I like the music sort of, but I don't like the fangirls.
My friend likes K-pop though and I kinda have to respect het.
I hope Vocaloid surges in popularity one day.
0:40 totally agree. I know they are "reflexes" and their relationship can be interpreted however you want, but just look at them, they are fucking the same and the last name is the same, so I really don't understand why people pair them up. Well, that's my opinion.
gold opinion
@@mono_poisoner hehe, thank you ^^
Legit nothing is appealing, why would you ship the same person together anyways? Mirror images/genderbends is just as weird as the sibling thing, cuz in one pov youre shipping siblings, and the other is the same exact person.
@@ahshitherewegoagain7461 ikr it's kinda weird and that's why I don't really listen to songs where they're portrayed as lovers (some are actually really good but it feels wrong)
I agree that they should stop making new vocaloids
But you gotta admit Fukase is pretty underrated and his voice is pretty
yeah
You : miku isn’t overrated .
Me : subscribes
me just now
Totally me
this
Me
That litterally just happened
I would always hate miku because she seemed overrated but deep down I always loved her the most, now I just love her in general
That's just cause a lot of fans want to see the other vocaloids as well, but that never happens because it's always just miku. Like in the games and the concerts the vast majority is miku. This is also shown in something I read www.polygon.com/2016/5/31/11818548/hatsune-miku-concert-review-nyc-may-2016.
The person who went to the concert is not a fan of vocaloid, and with no prior experience. She said it herself that Miku was on so much it was like when the others came on that those were just her friends that come on when even she has to take a break.
Seams like gumi is the most popular to me
@@Hayden_Cat no, not really
but she's one of the most popular
after a while i started to dont have that much against Miku, i just like other vocaloids better like KAITO and Fukase. (their voices are amazing)
@@plipplop1769 I agree with you on this so much!! It really is sad.
Literally the only way I can see Len and Rin is as siblings lol. I dont trust people who ship them
same
Same
as a new fan I think vocaloid is dying bc it's a little overwhelming with so much existing content
same
I mean it may have a lot but just pick up a few Vocaloids and stick with that, I mostly like Gakupo, Kaito, Rin and Len stuff and a few other vocaloids too
yeah vocaloid is losing popularity yes, but I think releasing new vocaloids is part of keeping the fandom alive? Una made a lot of success and akari is kinda there being used, but I reaaaally want some updates that we are probably never getting (rip piko) ;-;
the rest of the video is absolutely right, especially the second one, because WHY
Piko stuck in V2
#givePikoaV4update
XD
@@nas897 ki-oon wants nothing to do with vocaloid anymore. besides, his vp is no longer partnered with them.
Currently, you can see Chinese Vocaloid gaining popularity at least :)
@@99marmicki99 true, the new added chinese vocaloids are kinda raising the fandom there, and moke even became a MEME on social medias, i'm so proud of him
Because Rinlen is cute.
i agree, i rarely know the newer vocaloids, but the Chinese ones are good to be released since in china I've heard they're doing really well. fukase, flower, and the new meika twins are doing really well though
Flower - as in v flower?
@@sugarwizard8676 yea
Yeah, I think they should make more Vocaloids in different languages than make more Japanese ones. There's enough for variety. But I agree about the Meikas!
Flowerrrrrrr
MandarinCat agree we need more Spanish,Chinese,Korean,English vocaloids and maybe we add more languages like French,German,Italian,Turkish and many more
i agree with literally every opinion, half of them i was like “THANK YOU OH MY GOD” anyway, these should definitely b more popular lol
i watched this to get my blood pressure pumping but ended up agreeing with everything you said ...
I’ve never liked Rin x Len. I love both characters and they’re super cute. But I can’t see them as a couple. They have the same last name which makes it weirder. They look too similar so they’re obviously twins / mirrors of each other. The R and L are supposed to be like the R and L on headphones apparently. Just like how they’re the Treble and Bass clefs on a sheet of music, which unsurprisingly is Len for bass (left hand piano) and Rin for treble (right hand piano)
Tbf their designs were too well thought out for them to be shipped. They’re supposed to mirror each other.
honestly for a while I thought they were siblings and thats why I was so freaked out about it. I still dislike the ship though
The are probably cousins
Wow, I didn't know half of the stuff you said. Like Rin is "right" and Len is "left". That's genius!
You could look at the same last names as being married but I prefer changing how I see them depending on the song cause it's more fun that way.
They’re twins too which make it *worse*
"9. I don't get the hype of song covers in English"
Oh thank god i though i was the only one who thought of that
I agree, some sound cool but most are just reeeeeealy awkward.
FACTSSSS
Just checked them out to understand the lyrics.
Some times I watch them to hear and understand the lyrics better, also some times I actually really like the lyrics of a song so I wanna have an English version in my playlist ALSO also as long as the singing is good in them then I prefer them rather than having a bunch of weeb songs even tho I really like the melody of the song. Plus I can sing along lol (I mean.. I could still do that even tho it’s Japanese as long as I know the lyrics well enough, but you get it) sorry this comment is so long! just wanna make my self clear ya know
Hey ,about the last one , people mostly want to listen to songs that they can understand... it's just because English is a popular language. I personally looove Japanese Japanese songs, than if I want to understand'em I can just read subtitles hehe☆
i'm from 2022, and VOCALOID is regaining all the popularity that was lost in the past. there's still hope guys
Girl, I agree with everything you said and I actually got kind of emotional. Vocaloid was such a big part of me back in 2013-2015 but for some reason I kind of forgot about it. I still play Project Diva from time to time but that was it. And now, after all those years, I'm trying to come back, but the shitload of all the new vocaloids kind of scared me.
When I discovered your videos, I was sooo surprised that your Vocaloid content is recent work. And when you explained why you're still trying, it hit me. I missed Vocaloid so bad. I miss the old fandom so so bad. And I'm more than glad that people like you still exist. 🖤
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@@Minnemi *INSERTS NON EXISTENT MINNEMI*
The only one I didn't agree with was the "stop making new vocaloids" part. If we don't make new vocaloids, the fandom will get bored. A lot of the new vocals are amazing, especially the English ones. Also, imagine all the new languages that could be adapted to vocaloid. Also also, since all vocaloids since today and the present day someone looks at this have been released, we will be getting updated versions of these too? Also also also, no two vocaloids are EXACTLY the same(yes even Rin/Len despite having the same voice provider). Anyway, I just wanted to say this. I guess this video's name fits nicely, huh?
Many of the popular producers from back in the day (not all, but a good portion) have retired, moved on from Vocaloid, or simply make less songs than what they used to. There are still plenty of producers now, but they don't have the advantage of broadcasting to the initial wave of fans from when Vocaloid first boomed. Even so, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Vocaloid may have become less popular but it's not likely to die out anytime soon because it's established itself as a legitimate tool and instrument for musicians.
I honestly agree with all of these. I actually love miku so much. even though she is VERY popular I just can't see her as overrated like a lot of the fandom sees. also STOP MAKING NEW VOCALOIDS. I agree with SO much. The only new ones I love are the meika twins and FUKASE.
same. I love Fukase and the Meika twins
I pretty much agree with all of your opinions especially the English cover one. Once I tried searching up Aishite Aishite Aishite and all of the first results were English covers… :(
Since that disclaimer I thought really much that you would be roasting vocaloid, but I very much agree with all your opinions.
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO HATES LENCEST!!!!! I get that you all like Len’s modules, and enjoy seeing some together. But when you SHIP THEM?!?! You’re basically shipping Len...WITH HIMSELF!!! I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL!!! And because of Lencest, there’s now other things like that like Mikucest, Kaitocest, Rincest, THE LIST GOES ON!!!! Why is the Vocaloid fandom like this?????
Two words: THE ONCE-LER FANDOM
Thats basically supportin selfcest lol. I dont understand
@@dreamingpichu2334 omg exactly what I was thinking hahaha
OK WAIT THIS IS A GENUINE QUESTION I'M JUST CURIOUS why do people hate lencest or any other [character]cest? like why is it gross or weird? i don't really see the problem LOL and it's quite odd to see some people say they strongly hate it. i feel like it's really not that bad compared to some other things, but i'm just curious if anybody would explain their opinion.
@@syn5488 I might not be the right person for this but.. its just that we don't get what's so good about this or even that it exists as a ship. Its just weird, out there, and nothing more than just shipping clothes with clothes.
"expect Fukase "
Flower,Yukari,Merli ,Zola project,Yohioloid,Diva:We are joke for you ???
What I really like about the English covers is that it’s easy for me to sing along with. That’s a big part of my music experience and it’s easier for me to sing along with “I like cats” than “(Japanese here)” that’s just my opinion though, and I certainly have non-English covers that I love
Thank you for coming to my TED talk have a wonderful day 🤍🖤💜
As an old 2012 vocaloid fan, I actually quit the fandom like in 2016-2017 and in the start of 2018, I also miss the golden days
Many fanarts, and I really miss (in a guilty way) to see some kids crying over Miku x Kaito not being canon, I quickly get tired of new vocaloids as the same reason as you (They always end up forgotten, I stopped following the development after LUMI came out and I really have no idea which vocaloid can come next after her)
Thanks to you, I re-joined the fandom and I appreciate your dedication for your videos, trying to reunite vocaloid old and new fans together to make vocaloid great again!
You already did a person to join again here, thanks for your content! ^^
Me at 13: Miku is overrated
Me now: God I love Miku
Me in elementary school after only hearing one or two vocaloid songs: "Vocaloid bad, the voices are weird."
Me in middle school: "Senbonzakura and World's End Dancehall are the only good songs..." (internally: -but I must admit Miku's kinda cute- )
Me now: (has an entire 300+ song playlist that is 99% Vocaloid-related, has multiple versions of Project Diva, has downloaded a few songs using an mp3 converter, and is currently working on a song using her)
"...ah, how times have changed..."
I'd give anything to be put back into a time where everyone listened to vocaloid and used like kawaii desu and these :3 XD X3 :v :D :P I was a kid at the time but I just wish I could have experienced it 😔😔😔
aww I think its really sweet how you make vocaloid videos to try to bring back the fandom again :'). Your videos are certainly what made me come back and revisit all my favourite songs.
2:24
Meika Hime & Meika Mikoto : *hold my plum flowers-*
Lᴏʟʏ KᴀᴡᴀɪɪCʜᴀɴ I AGREEE they’re so good
My child *sniff*
I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT ON THEM Hime and Mikoto are my precious babies and I'll protect them with my life
I shall protect them, with all my heart.
The babies.
Len X Len is a thing???
Also most of these opinions are actually really good. I still feel like miku is a little over rated but she's still really good and super iconic.
Yes it is, that ship is called "lencest"
I wouldn't call Miku overrated. I would call the other underrated.
JuDa_0525 yeah len x len got a massive selection of fanfiction and doujinshi. I still don’t understand the appeal of selfcest
I agree with you. Miku in MY opinion is overrated but that doesn't mean she has a crappy voice and awful songs I mean, if u looked at my playlist, its full of Miku songs lol
THIS VIDEO SUMMED UP LITERALLY EVERYTHING I THINK ABT VOCALOID WHAT I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL SM
Ok, i agree that miku isn't overrated and she is awesome, but sometimes pay attention to other vocaloids too, they're amazing too lmao
Gakupo needs an English voice bank. I really don't understand why he doesn't have one already....
okay i'm really on board, especially with number 9
i personally feel like English covers can't pull off the originality of the Japanese version and it just doesn't fit anymore
And sometimes they change the lyrics when they didn’t have to- I get it how it needs to fit and stuff but eh...
I like English covers because as a non speaking Japanese person, it can help me understand the meaning of the song better + I like singing along in English sometimes but they are SO overhyped.
If you don't like english covers or whatever other language they're in, just don't listen to any of them, and I'm not saying that in a mean way! It's okay to dislike covers, but saying "the original is better" can be very harmful to creators because translyrics take a lot of time and effort to pull off, and not everyone can achieve a good translation, a good vocal mix, and a good vocal technique all at once. People make covers because they're very passionnate about it, and want to share their love for Vocaloid just like artists do! Covers, just like any other form of artistic creation, is a very important way of keeping the community together, and some producers don't hesitate to show their appreciation for covers because it's quite amazing to see people sing your song and put so much effort into translating and singing it.
I don't know if that changes your visions of things a bit, but in any case, everyone has their own right to create what they want and if you dislike it, just skip it! ♥️
I can see why people would. Sometimes a vocaloid sounds awkward singing certain notes and having a human cover it just makes the song ten times better.
I can't stand english covers. If a person cannot practice japanese and makes honour to the original, just don't sing the cover... It just seems to lazy to me. I don't speak japanese, but some vocaloid songs are my favorite ever that I learnt the japanese lyrics
next unpopular opinion: dex CAN sound great, it just depends on how you tune him
My heart shattered when I was once again reminded about Vocaloid's decreasing popularity. God dammit I miss the good old days when almost everyone in the entire world are crazy for a blue twin tailed anime waifu.
Every fandom that I've joined is either toxic, unpopular, or dead :( I discovered Vocaloid many years ago but only joined recently to find that it's dying :( I wanna go back to the good old days
(I'm like a day late but whatever)
1. Yup, Miku isn't overrated. It's more like she's over-commercialized rather than overrated, which is defined by something/someone being made out to be better than they actually are. Whereas, Miku has a solid voicebank and an iconic design, and even though she's super popular, I'm pretty sure the majority of Vocaloid fans wouldn't go around saying things like "MiKu is ThE BEst VoCALoiD ObJECTiveLY speAKinG aNd EVeryOnE eLSe SUX!!1!!!" hence, not overrated. Just absurdly popular (still love her though).
2. Ehh...I can see why people would find this ship disturbing, but I personally don't have any issues with it. Whether I ship it or not usually depends on the context (i.e. songs, AUs, headcannons...etc. For example, I'm obviously not going to ship them as their Daughter/Servant of Evil characters (Riliane and Allen) who are canon twins, but in Paper Plane I was a sobbing mess and I just wanted them to be together, y'know? Minus the Nazis and terminal illness). But all context aside, they are mirror images. Nothing more, nothing less. Whether they have a romantic or sibling-like relationship, it doesn't bother me either way.
3. Yeah, this goes without saying. I only joined the Vocaloid fandom several months short of a year ago, and even then I immediately noticed how...unlively this fandom was. Though I still managed to get sucked into it somehow, and b o o m. Here I am.
4/5. I don't have any strong opinions on these rip.
(It's not like I'll ever even go to a live concert anyway considering that they don't happen in my country and I'm too broke to go abroad ;-;)
6. Never played Project Diva X, but yikes, that sounds bad.
7. I kinda disagree with this but I feel like explaining why would just be parroting what everyone else has already said about the matter, so uhhhhh......I like turtles.
I also don't think there are too many Vocaloids?? Just look at how many UTAUs there are?? I personally like to keep track of all the Vocaloids and I adore them all.
I also don't think it's fair to complain about all the similar voice types. If Vocaloid™ was one big company that made all of the Vocaloids, it'd be fair to criticize them for constantly sending out slightly altered copies of the same thing, but all of the Vocaloids are owned by different companies, thus, that criticism doesn't really work. You can't really expect companies to not produce a young female voicebank when those are the ones that sell best, I guess is what I'm trying to say?
But in my humble opinion, despite similarities, no two Vocaloids are exact copies of each other. There are differences in their voices, and they've all got a unique charm to them. I think there are a lot of Vocaloids that deserve to be appreciated more. In an idealistic world, they would be.
8. Selfcest in general just isn't my thing. I can see the appeal, particularly when it comes to shipping different versions/personalities/modules of the same person (it's cute somehow), but even then, that's a big s o m e w h a t cute. I guess I'd just rather ship people with other people?? It just makes more sense I guess?? Idk what I'm talking about anymore, ignore me.
9. It definitely annoys me when an english cover gets more attention than the original song. However, I don't hate them, and there are a few english covers that I really really like. The english lyrics can also be kinda fun to sing.
Um, so that's pretty much it. Thanks for reading this far, if you did.
Oh, and #makevocaloidgreatagain
Wow thank you for taking you time to comment this!!
I agree with you for 2
Even though I am a hardcore rinlen shipper, I at least like them to have a close sibling relationship if in the song or something they are twins. I headcannon them as dopplegangers, that way they dont have to be realted.
Also there were two kids at my school with the same last name that liked eachother in fifth grade so like-
Well one liked the other-
Also the designs are similar but- Technically they all have similar faces? Its the Blonde hair and blue eyes isnt it?
Thank... you? Thank you.
Why did I spend my time reading all that?
Y E S for point two. I ship Rin x Len, but only in the songs where they aren't related, and are potrayed as lovers (e.g Feathers across the Seasons and The 13th Apocolypse). I entirely agree that shipping relies heavily on context; I'm not going to ship them in Evillious Chronicles, as they are brother and sister in that instance, but I will ship them in Maid Factor, because they both love each other and are adorable!
While i agree with you with pretty much everything you said, i have to disagree with the fact that all new vocaloids are flops. Yes, many of them are forgotten after 3 covers are uploaded to youtube because their voices arent special. But that doesnt mean they are inherently bad: Fukase (obv), Otomachi Una and flower all have been great successes because they actually sound _different._ Fukase's power, Una's versatility with Gender Factor (she sounds very good when doing the Shakira thingie) and flower's uniqueness (she is a very good competence for miku if you look at how many songs shes staring to get lately) are all proof that not everything has been done yet. WE STAN PUNK ICON FLOWER
Yeah. I think flower is quite famous. I believe most Honeyworks' fans know about her, as she sang many of their songs.
Dilukharts uwu cough cough GHOST
I like Otomachi’s voice, her voice clarity can be put at the same level as Miku’s voice but that’s just my opinion, I dunno about you guys
I love flower! Though I really wish she gets more popular.
Agreed! I try my best to keep up with their processing because I want to give all of them a chance (even though I would love for older ones to be updated more). Flower is probably my favourite that has come from the newer ones.
My own unpopular opinion being added. I really can't stand Fukase. The fact he both looks and sounds alike to Oliver just annoys me. Why couldn't they have given Oliver an update instead of making him?
You are the person who got me into vocaloid with your vocaloid on crack vids cuz they are amazing thank you for bringing me here to this day 😔✋♥️
1:56 all I think when I see this song is
*GO GO POWER R A N G E R S S S S*
*hears “miku isnt over rated”*
*automatically likes the video*
i pretty much agree with all of your opinions except the one about new vocaloids, but i see where you’re coming from and respect your opinion m8
1. Agree Miku is god
2. I used to ship RinLen but I don't anymore
3. We are dying and it scares the shit out of me
4. It's true and you should say it
5. I don't have an opinion
6. Don't have X can't say anything bout it, but I am probably gonna buy it simply because I personally like a lot of the songs on it.
7. I follow the Chinese ones because they're very good.
8. Wrong. Lencest is god. Although I'm very for any selfcest when possible and I pretty much ship every other selfcest too.
9. Most of them are bad I agree. The fact that Juby can post anything and get ridiculous views pisses me off, especially when her voice literally fucking ruins a song like with Jitter Doll. She has ONE tone.
Oktavia and Lollia can really elevate some song tho. Not that the originals aren't awesome, but they make good covers.
I recommend buying the FT instead, X really isn't worth it kddk
@anon She doesn't even try with some songs. For example Sweet Magic.
@anon And I actually translated some of her videos.
@anon Like, I translated her Tokyo Teddy bear cover to Swedish.
Piko: v4? This is impossible...
Istg I wholeheartedly agree with the 5th opinion. The i feel like the problem with the new ones are the models are wayyy too complicated and end up looking bulky, old ones looked simpler and less messy, eg. that wowaka outfit.
Project Mirai DX is better than Project Diva X.
1. More songs
2. More songs from other Vocaloids
3. Costs $20 less
4. You can play PuyoPuyo if you're bored
5. More friendly to casual players, but can still get challenging at times
6. Gumi
Agree 💯
If only Gumi could be playable though
@@gamernanami914 well "playable" 😉
-there's a difference bw "overrated" and "good". miku is good, therefore she is popular. her design and voice are definitely unique and lovely. she's the face of the industry, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing. most producers use her voice, and they use her voice very well. that speaks for itself.
-personally i find rin x len shippable if the song portrays it that way. like in shikiori no hane. it's more like i ship their voices than their characters, bc their voices mix so well but their characters, without the portrayal of a song to portray them any differently, just seem like siblings by default.
-vocaloid is definitely past its golden days. i remember when hazuki no yume's channel got terminated, english subs that were once pumped out religiously became harder to come by. but for japanese producers themselves, there are a lot of relatively new producers who make great songs and deserve more attention from fans worldwide. moreover, producers like pinocchio-p, misumi, *luna, etc release a lot of new songs pretty often, and those are the songs i think of when i think about more recent vocaloid hits. vocaloid is dying, but not dead, and there'll always be ppl who're keeping it alive.
-yeaaaaahhh the newer models/MMD/Proj Diva stuff doesn't seeeem gooood
-i think only una and maybe some others were rlly big hits among newer 'loids. i agree, they just just update the old ones. male VBs especially imo. i want to see chinese 'loids get more variety, tho. newer 'loids are fine by me as long as they bring something unique to the table.
-when was lencest NOT weird, my guy
-i personally am a fan of english (and other languages) translyricists and cover artists bc i see the creation of derivative works as an art form in and of itself. it's rlly cool to see ppl get creative with how they interpret songs and create "singable" words from the translations. it requires skills different from creating a song or translating a song, so i see it with as much respect as i would see either of the other two. english covers take popularity from the songs they're based off of bc the listeners don't take the time to seek out the original song. that's why i appreciate cover artists who link the producer + other original credits in their desc. and talk about why they like the song they're singing about.
Yeah well when she's ass licked so much that the latest game only gave your waifu one solo song and Meiko and Kaito none, you start to jump on the overrated/bias bandwagon.
Umm.. Rin and Len are the same person.. IDK how I feel about your opinion. Eh.
thx for making me got back to the vocaloid fandom! one of your video got recommended to me, i wanted to check it out but suprisingly u got me back to the fandom!
I wish I was born earlier so I could experience the old vocaloid community and be around when it was still active
But sadly during that time I was just a dumb toddler watching peppa pig :{
With the Miku being overrated one, I understand that she's supposed to be a 'breakthrough' for Vocaloid, but the thing that bothers me the most is that Crypton doesn't advertise Rin, Len and Luka as much. Breakthrough or not, Rin, Len and Luka are still creations of Crypton, and deserve as much effort for merchandise, new performances and animations as Miku does. I just don't see why they created them and basically threw them to the side.
Edit: Right. People are now replying about why I didn't specify Kaito and Meiko, so I'm going to put it here. Yes, of course they deserve more love. But I understand why they are treated the way they are. Kaito and Meiko AREN'T OWNED BY CRYPTON, so I can some reasoning behind their treatment.
MY point with how Luka, Len and Rin should be getting more advertisement is that they ARE owned by Crypton, same as Miku, so there is NO reason why they should be treated less.
So, Yes, Kaito and Meiko do need more appreciation, BUT I didn't mention them because I see the reasoning behind not giving them as much.
Luka, Rin and Len - owned by Crypton, so there is no reason behind them not getting the same treatment as Miku.
Kaito and Meiko - not owned by Crypton, so there is suitable reasoning behind why they are treated the way they are.
Yeah I agree with that :^/
Don't forget Meiko and Kaito!! I agree with this so much though ;-;
@@keira6444 While I do believe they deserve more, I understand why they are treated less, because they aren't technically owned by Crypton, just adopted. So I see the reasoning behind Meiko and Kaito, but definitely not behind Luka, Rin and Len. They all need more love!
What about Kaito?
Rin, Len And Luka get more attention than Kaito for sure
@@bunnyravve Read my previous reply.
0:43 Rin and Len are my favorite vocoloids and I didn’t know people shipped them I just thought their voices and design were good and Len is funny
Same
They have so many incest songs like "suki kirai" How you didn't know?
@@evrenbasak6381 it’s not incest. Please don’t say that. They’re not canonically siblings. In Suki Kirai, and HUNDREDS of other songs, they are NOT siblings. PLEASE do not call it incest.
@☆Hanbistarr☆ ive lost interest in arguing about this now, its a year later JEDKH id say the last name just indicates that theyre a pair. it rlly isnt that big of a deal, view em as whatever u want. its only wierd if ppl deliberately ship them AS siblings
@☆Hanbistarr☆ nah ur alg, I used to be rlly into trying to inform people ab this LOL. Voca is literally ab ur own interpretation so anything is on the table for all characters unless you actually make it problematic !!
Yo I just got into vocaloid a few days ago and I'm glad ppl still make videos like yours :)
you and your channel turned me into a baby vocaloid fan. bro i dont want this fandom to die
I need more Vocaloid fans as friends..... right now I have: zero.
You're not alone, been in this vocaloid world alone all these years lol
@@jamthistoast2330 Well, I guess we could change that eventually :D
Did someone call me?
@@chikon.6295 idk, maybe ?
zero escape?
God damn I did not expect this.I agree with pretty much all the points you made and I hope the fandom becomes less toxic when it comes to the "MIKU IS OVERRATED!!!!1!!!" discourse. I can answer your last question however: the reason why people love english covers is the same reason why some people only watch dubbed anime. They feel more comfortable listening to their own language instead of one that they don't understand. Personally I also think that's kinda dumb but I respect the work of the artists that write english lyrics for the songs. Won yourself a subscriber fam! #MakeVocaloidGreatAgain
im kinda sad no one uses rana she has an incredible voice bank and amazing design its a shame most vocaloid fans haven't heard of her
About 3 you actually introduced me to Vocaloid with your (un)helpful guide to Vocaloid, and i just want to say thank you. Its been amazing in the fandom, the music is fantastic, art is awesome and its been a wild ride here :)
I blame KPOP for the loss in popularity
Same
Same. I got into kpop through vocaloids but I came back. #makevocaloidgreatagain
Meh, I believe things come and go. So hard to except. But I listen to both. I still like my vocaloids better. 😍
I love K-Pop more than Vocaloid tbh
Out
Get out
I agree with most of your opinions. Didn't know those were so unpopular.
Miku is the perfect diva, honestly. She can be anything for anyone, anywhere at any time, and artists and designers are always creating all sorts of unique and cool versions of her. I really adore her.
I would also love it if she became more prevalent with producers outside the fandom. Anamaniguchi's song was excellent, and i was so happy to see Porter Robinson remix Tell Your World with Something Comforting (seriously check it out, it's excellent. He's also used either a Vocaloid or a Synth V voice for his album Worlds).
And unpopular but... more party and non-weeb fun songs please. What Mitchie M is doing. I love it.
dang you teached me so much about vocaloid, I'm so interested in them now.
"I'm still waiting for that Gakupo English"
You are not the only one.
*Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?*
0:55 I'm a new fan to vocaloid (found out about it in july) and your videos kind of branched it out to me so at least it's working (kind of)
your channel actually introduced me to vocaloid :D i love your content!
All of the guys in my school are getting into vocaloid and it's weird
Edit: I have a few friends from japan and they said vocaloid isnt dying over there as far as they know, for us it's probably because of kpop (sadly) and the fact that she's in a country most of us haven't been to and in a language we dont understand, they make music mainly for japan, not us
I showed my friend vocaloid music and she said "this is so childish" and called me a big weeb, I'm pretty sure this happens to 99% of us lmao
#makevocaloidgreatagain
...
*It's hard to find friends who support you unconditionally*
Point 3 is incredibly valid, I've been aware of vocaloid for years but only really became a fan in the last year and to come into a dying scene with all the excitement of a new fan is a weird feeling
We’re dying?! D:>
-I feel like Miku is kinda overrated, but vocaloid Fandom could never be the same without her and that's obvious. I just think they should leave a little more attention to other vocaloids as well, it isn't bad...right?
-Some new vocaloids are good (don't tell me nothing about Fukase or I will SNAP), but I think vocaloid community really needs uploads like Gakupo and Piko, yes (still hasn't got over Piko's "death" check).
And... Nothing more.
That's all guys
Thanks for your attention :)
Hold up! I thought Rin and Len were siblings!?!
They were planned to be twins, but they changed it so that fans could decide what kind of relationship they have
they're mirror imagines
Kagami means mirror in japanese, they were supposed to be reflections of each other
@@-x_moon_x- THATS SO CUTE AND WHOLESOME WTF
There either:
Siblings
Lovers
Or siblings and lovers.
I have a hard time keeping track of the new vocaloids that come out too, except occasionally there are a few good ones, like recently the hype over Meika Mikoto and Hime.
I've been a fan of Miku and VOCALOID for years but I abandoned it after seeing its unfortunate downhill state but a few months back I got back to VOCALOID thanks to my own self for reconsidering on thinking of a return and I am more than happy to see the community is still doing very well, even pulling more than a hundred thousand viewers thanks to RUclips recommending me your channel.