I Test The Porsche Taycan 4S | Does Any Car Depreciate More?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Porsche Centre Preston lent me a Porsche Taycan 4S for a couple of days. The car is amazing, but there's no way I could use it for a driving school car!
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A video on this car has Taycan me by surprise.
I was hoping you'd be using the launch control at various traffic lights in Liverpool. Very disappointing. 😅
Good one! I wish I'd thought of that.
Did the missus want Taycan out in it?
Could get real expensive if she loves it and has to have one 😅
😂😂😂😂
I always thought it was pronounced "Taycan" not "Taycan" 😂
As in, "A dickie bow can't make you look smart, but a tie can"
If everyone drives like this guy and had the same attitude to life. The roads would be 10x safer and the world would be a better place.
I love this review it offers something different to regular reviews
Would be frustrating in some instances lol
Yeah I bet he’s a right laugh at parties.
Would I like to drive one for half a day?…. Yes
Would it put a smile on my face?…. Yes.
Would I own one? … NOT IN A MILLION BLOODY YEARS
One of the big advantages of an EV is low servicing and running costs, £1200 service for the Taycan?! I'll stick with my MG5.
@@mikebreen2890 That's a german luxury brand for you. I can't imagine they do much but inspection and topping up fluids.
@@FrozenDung Yea, reckon my MG5 service is a £100 car wash.
Because you can’t afford it!
I still don't subscribe to the whole "power is a safety feature" argument. Once you have performance around 10s for 0-60mph you have enough to merge with traffic etc. Yes, fast acceleration is "enabling", but if it is enabling you to get out of trouble then it's probably trouble that you got yourself into in the first place. Certainly from a personal perspective, in 30 years with a driving license i have only once had to accelerate out of trouble that i didn't initially accelerate myself into.
Devon resident here. There are a fair few dual carriageways in this neck of the woods with exceptionally short slip roads, or even just with conventional junctions where you are joining traffic at 70mph.
A ten second 0-60 whilst not "unsafe" per se, is certainly less safe than a car that can get there quicker.
@@ShadrachN7Also a Devon resident. I frequently have to use the sliproad from Kennford services onto Telegraph Hill, outside Exeter. It's a very short road, onto a three-lane steep uphill. I'd love more power than my SEAT has, because otherwise I have to wait for BIG gaps.
@@ShadrachN7 That would be "enabling", not "accelerating out of danger", as you have the choice to just wait for a bigger gap. The power is not a safety feature, just a helpful one.
@15bit62 Whilst I agree that it's of course best practice to wait for the largest gap possible, the reality is that these junctions often have restricted vision, the road will be busy, or both. Even when taking all precautions to minimise risk, it's still quite possible to emerge onto the dual carriageway into the path of a vehicle that was unseen until then (the junction @theaikidoka mentions is a great example, being a short slip that exits onto the bend of a 70mph dual carriageway with restricted vision).
Drivers are only human, and thus sooner or later we are going to make a poor judgement call when emerging onto the carriageway. When that happens, wouldn't you sooner have a car with more power that can quickly mitigate risk by getting up to speed?
@@ShadrachN7 I used to live in a place where the only exit was a T junction on to dual carriageway halfway round a blind corner. So i completely understand your point of view. But that is still not accelerating out of trouble. It is accelerating into trouble and then using the power to get out of it. Yes, i know this seems like semantics, but it isn't. If you have less power you will generally be more careful, and that of course has always reflected in insurance premiums.
Boost and launch mode…after all the e-bike reviews lately I was waiting for you to have a joke with “…it gives assistance up to 15.5mph after which the electric assist stops and you are on your own” 😁
Remember that depreciation is region-specific. The UK has historically always had high depreciation - 50% in 3 years was always normal. But here in Norway 50% in 5 years is the norm. And EVs follow that, because they remain popular here. But in the UK the poor infrastructure and natural reticence of the brits when it comes to change combine to depress EV residual values a lot.
Is this because of our perch ant for leasing? A lot of cars entering the market at three years must force down the prices.
The Taycan is something special. We're talking delivery miles and you can easily loose £60K, assuming you manage to sell it.
@@Gopher31 Yes, it probably is. And especially company cars. Even back in the 80's and 90's anything that was popular with fleet buyers would suffer bad depreciation.
@@Gopher31 It's a very good point 👍
In 2019 there were like were just 97k EVs on the road, in 2020 that more than doubled to 205k, and almost again in 2021 to 396k.
That's a big glut of EVs hitting 2-3 years old in 2023 and 2024, alongside strong downward pressure on new EV prices and increasing choice both competing with the used market for value.
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I teach in a Mini Cooper electric and my pupils love it. Personally it’s the best thing I’ve ever driven.
Silly question, if you pass your test in an electric car is this an automatic license or manual ?
Can’t beat a mini!
@@robloxfan4271 A proper one, agreed. But not this god-awful BMW impostor. Bloody thing is bigger than a Maxi..! Alec Issigonis must be rolling in his grave.
@@JonBurrows90 if the electric car is automatic with as far as I know most are then you can only drive an automatic (unless you take the test in a manual)
My first car in 1973 was a 1965 Tartan Red Mini 850. Lots of fun, slow but highly manoeuvreble, until white van man pulled out on me and crossed my path to turn right from a left-hand side road at the end of a dual carriageway. Even now, all these 51 years later, I can still remember the impact as the bonnet halved in length, the front wings peeled off and items in the back flew into the windshield at only 40 MPH. The car was written off, but I was not trapped or injured, so survived to live another day, thanks to British engineering and the seatbelt rule even back then!
Great car review video with some bonus tips for driving from the best instructor on RUclips!
I do a mix of town driving and motorway driving so I'm sticking with the self charging hybrid for now until our electric infrastructure in UK is improved.
I've got the Lexus RC300H and its width is 2069 mm (including mirrors). Luckily I have driven alot of vans and I just think "can I drive a van down that space?"
Just a shame some other people have no idea how wide their cars are 🤦♀️
I've been lucky enough to drive a Taycan Turbo a couple of times....
Fastest thing. Ever. Ridiculous that average Dave can own something so fast.. amazing technology. Made my 1200cc feel like a scooter in comparison. The throttle response as in electric cars. Woah.
Average Dave with a hundred grand? 🤔
@@Chigleybus The performance of a Tesla, Taycan and other fast EVs. A few years ago. You'd be called either Lewis, or a Sir. Now, Joe average driver can own something that years ago would be a McLaren / Ferrari is a crazy world.
@@philipjames3526make up your mind! Is it average Dave or average Joe?😅
@@Chigleybus Average Dave can get a lower end Tesla as a company car, and the LR version of those have 400HP. For your typical ford/toyota/vauxhall driver the step in performance is mindblowing. Honestly, a 400HP family hatchback is a ridiculous thing. I know, i have one.
@@composimmonite3918 Barbara
Boss had one for a couple of years, now back to a Proper Porsche.
Just ask MacMaster he'll tell you all about depreciation🤷🏻♂Mental. If I could get a Tesla for a while I would try one but I they won't do that so it's a no from me. I'll just keep paying 25p a mile in the S3 😢
That twat's made more money of slagging that car off than it ever cost him.
Ask yourself why he kept it and constantly makes videos about it which everybody dutifully watches through for the same tired garbage commentary on the hardships of owning a luxury vehicle...
That 25p/m must be taking it easy in an S3, right?
@@chunkyfecalbreakfast good question and yes it is 😆Ain't no 25p a mile when driving 'spiritedly', ha. My whole city is virtually average speed cameras though and the back 'A' roads that used to be awesome even have them on. That's one reason when I bought it 13 yrs ago I had the S-Tronic remapped as well as the engine to stop the gears hunting up and down so much around 35mph to 30 mph.
@@Richard_Barnes it always amuses me that cars don’t want to do the speed limit. My old diesel accord only manages about 18p/m so you’re doing really well there given the performance difference
MacMaster just has the car to make the videos. He could hand it back half way through the finance but he gets good views from the EV bashing. He is entertaining on some of his international trips, he should stick to that.
From a "spirited driving" perspective i actually prefer slower cars. Especially older cars. I miss old school GTIs like the 205 and 106, which were small, light, nimble, and you could rev them out in the first 3 gears without being outrageously over the limit. My Model 3 is just too fast - the handling is totally dictated by the power and there is no need to balance the car up and take a good line through corners cos the power immediately compensates for slow exit speeds. It's also too big, so even though its actually pretty nimble, there just isn't enough space on B roads for it. It is however a fantastic A-road car for long distance travelling, with lots of luggage space and the ability to easily overtake anything that is holding you up.
Most fun I had in a car was in a little 1.6 when I was young. Full throttle and perfect gear changes just to keep up with traffic!
@@Gopher31 For me it was an original type mini. A whole 40HP, but superb handling and go-kart like driving experience. With so little power it really put an emphasis on being able to go round corners in order to keep up the average speed.
But having to stop every 200 miles 😬I love old cars and the independence driving them
Nice driving. A bit of fun yet never putting others in danger. Imagine turning up at learners house to give them a lesson in one of them.
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I'm really confused why you're conflating a discussion about a ludicrously luxury vehicle with a discussion about EVs in general...
The Taycan isn't representative of anything other than what the top 5% might waste their money on...
In the last year I've spotted two vehicles crashed in a ditches on completely straight roads. They were both Taycans.
Says a lot about the people who buy luxury cars...
Thanks for this episode Ashley. You've helped me no end to avoid Porsche envy and reinforced my decision to keep the Tesla Model 3 Long Range a little longer as a tuition car! Mind you, there's an awful lot of Porsche Taycans around here in Cheltenham. Was following two of them back from LIDL earlier this morning. No doubt saving money on the children's food to pay for the car! 😊
Haha…didn’t scratch it, time to go home!
I just watched every minute of this. This is a definitive review - doesn't get any better than this. Well done Ashley - you show a lot of car reviewers how it should be done.
In terms of electric “vehicles”
The electric sprinter is the winner
Brand new £73,000 + vat
2 years old £20,000 + vat
DPD drivers love em.😂
The amount of respect you get from other road users driving The Porsche Taycan 4S is incredible.
The driver in the white van would have closed in if you driving a Focus.
Brilliant video .
Well done at around 8:06 for holding back from the lorry approaching the roundabout. As we've seen in many videos, some drivers would have emerged alongside the lorry and soon discovered the issue, no doubt with horn blaring, evasive action and the good old "You're on camera mate!"
2:07 Even on the dasham the Porsche Front looks fantastic!
“Not interested in launch mode”……. Is that Kyle Pilkington I can hear flying over? 😂
Least we can go vroom vroom around the race track in these cars.. audi r8.. porsche 911.. lotus..
Can't wait to do a track day! 😃👌
I’ll watch this in my lunch break today
The black LEAF on the roundabout would have been perfect for you. Tootil and battery save. Great car. Unreal from someone who would have never bought a Nissan
This video is why I like my Kona N so much. It has power, probably comparable to the Focus ST so you’ll know it shifts but there’s so much more to it than just that. In N mode it has both exhausts going with the valves opened so it sounds great, pops and bangs on command. It has a bit of torque steer which adds to the excitement. It can handle itself in the corners thanks to the E-diff and the sports suspension (that will be the end of my back). It’s a car that you can have fun with whilst keeping it legal. Accelerating up to 60 in second then having it pop on the gear change is fun. The sound is so important to that fun factor I think. Missing it in an electric removes so much especially that fun factor.
A Mk. I Spitfire only had 1000Hp, and that was a front line fighter aircraft 80 years ago. Does a private car really need that level of power?
What gets me is why do modern cars need to get bigger & bigger when it's not necessary & not just the Taycan's but SUV's to.
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32:25 three abreast! No way was that 2m passing distance, surprised the horn wasn't used there! 😉
Been watching McMaster on youtube. His channel is ace for this as he has one.
Watching you do that 30-60mph test was like watching a child open a great present at Christmas and be blown away by it. Great video and a very nice car, I may have book my self on a track day somewhere to have a go in one.
That is a wide car.
You didn’t mention how the battery was lasting over that test drive.
the prices of used Taycans has plummeted recently, might be well over 100k new, but you can pick them up slightly used for around 50k
Interesting commentary. Absolutely agree that the Taycan isn't for everyone. However there's certainly plenty of opportunities to enjoy one in the UK and abroad, we actually have an EV class at a local sprint which takes place on closed roads at the weekend which the Taycan would be depressingly good at for us petrolheads!
I disagree that the power of the Taycan etc is pointless - there is definitely a lot of fun to be derived from having a whopping great stick and treading lightly. Obviously the other factors - handling, braking etc are generally attached to cars that accelerate quickly too.
My big concern about this and other high performance EVs though is that they are incredibly heavy and whilst they do handle well, they don't override physics. They have an ability to *quickly* get an owner into trouble and aren't the best at getting them out of it. Couple that with owners who aren't typically used to driving supercars, will likely have come from something FAR more sedate, and often aren't massively focused on driving, and you have a lot of accidents.
I'd really like to see you drive something like a Renaultsport Clio 172 and compare it to the Taycan. Driving enjoyment at legal speeds are those cars' thing.
I have a 2 year old Taycan Turbo S - you highlighted one of the main issues in that the car is extremely wide! Sure, you get used to it but 6' 6" width restrictions require you to know the car VERY well.
Honestly it's an epic vehicle, but £147,800 list price and 2 years later, WeBuyAnyCar would pay just £36k (35,000 miles). I have never been so happy to have leased the car rather than own. I suspect EVs will remain best for lease over purchase for some time to come.
How can your left knee be in the middle of the car when the knee is against the left hand side of the centre console?,
when i worked for british car auctions bouncing around dealerships prosche was always the niceist. the mechanic mikes and dealer daves would load my bag full off drinks and treats even if i wasnt supposed to be there and helped me sort out F ups that had nothing to do with them which is a heck of alot more than i can say for some other dealerships
There's dozens of these where I live, I think just about everyone bought it on a company car plan (which is the only sane way to buy one). Was sorely tempted to do the same on the wife's plan as the monthly payments were surprisingly low.
Anyway, turns out it was a good idea to wait as Porsche have just announced the facelifted model that's not only quicker but has a new battery with new chemistry so it gives far more range and charges faster while actually weighing slightly less. And that brings up the fundamental point that electric cars are improving so rapidly that it's probably smarter to wait them out a few more years as the technology progresses.
Great review and seriously considering on of these, the taycan 2 has improved both performance and economy. The the point of not buying one, they make a fantastic used buy just make sure you have a warranty
Perfect example at 24:45 of not only country lane driving but driving in general.
“I have just spotted a cyclist going past…”
You can replace “cyclist” with any road user as you know that you might be seeing them again as you drive along the road.
But it also shows that if you hadn’t been looking for those couple of seconds, the cyclist will still be there but you are unaware of them so always drive as if there are cyclists / pedestrians/ horses / insert_any_other_road_user ahead of you regardless of the so called fun you wish to have in your car 👍
Depreciation on (ICE) Porsches is so low that when you lease a sports car you can often get a more expensive Porsche than say an Audi TT or Merc simply because the residuals are so good on the Porsches compared to the lesser alternatives. I would imagine that the residuals on a Taycan are more governed by the fact that it is an EV that means that at some point customers are going to get a big hit for battery replacement long before Porsche's legendary longevity applies and given Porsche's reputation for labour/parts prices, battery replacement may mean that it becomes an uneconomic repair, despite the good state of all the other components.
Current indicators point towards EVs being a dead end in terms of vehicle propulsion, except for solely urban environments. Mercedes has just recently announced that it too, along with VAG and Toyota, (the world's two biggest car manufacturers, is moving away from EVs and concentrating on ICE powered vehicles. Tesla sales are plummeting and the other manufacturers are all reporting lower than expected sales of EVs. The only one to buck the trend is BYD, the Chinese company.
The VW Phaeton had eye-watering depreciation. You could buy one for £6000 when a Bentley Continental of the same age (which is basically the same car with different bodywork) still cost £30k+.
What's with the camera on the windscreen? I know some drivers do it but surely it's dangerous to obscure forward vision?
great content Ashley.....can i ask what mode di you have the sta nav in on the PCM ?? i haven't seen that mode on mine
After 30 plus years in the motor trade, and having driven a range of vehicles from Fiat 126 to 7.5 tonne box vans, I like you Ashley view cars as no more than a tool to transport me to my destination. Like most possessions, cars are often a status symbol. Unfortunately cars like this Taycan are too powerfull for 99% of the purchasers. As an aside, I drove a 911 many years ago, early 80s, and it put me off Porsches permanently.
Great video and review, quite like the look of these Taycans, they are beautiful looking cars tho not really a fan of EVs
What is the definition of “spirited” driving? Is it safer, as safe, or less safe than unspirited driving?
Interesting video for me this one, because for some time I’ve been thinking of getting an early, highly depreciated Taycan to replace my 2020 Zoe. Being a retired LGV/PSV driver the physical size wouldn’t faze me, servicing and maintenance and perhaps insurance would however.
But like you mentioned, what can it do over and above my Zoe which I only drive around town in the 10-20 minutes I’d be in it? Simply put nothing.
But it’s obviously better built and with that name, hugely desirable.
All of which makes it hard to resist, but I think I will, for the time being at least unless it drops under £30k, then I’ll not be able to contain myself. 😂
Great review, cheers for posting this. Beautiful machine, almost enough to turn me off petrol. 😁
Always looked at how low and long these are and thought surely they must foul on speed bumps, but the ones I've seen where likely in the lowered eco-mode so, good to know!
‘Learning to drive in a focus ST is ridiculous!
Enter the Porsche!
I got my first properly quick car , a BMW M4, about 1 year ago. It didn’t take long to realise the cars just too fast to enjoy in the roads. This lead to me starting to do track days with the car where it’s possible to see just how capable the car is. Not so sure this would work as an option for an EV though as range would be a real issue. I get 5mpg on track vs 30+ on the motorway. Scaling an EVs range down accordingly would lead to a rather short trackday!
Small ev for around where we need to go but we have miles that we travel at times and we at times have limited time and chance of stopping to give comfort breaks so charging would cause issue . So no , electric full not good and car like this entirely unsuitable for needs . But love the video , never fail to surprise . 👍
There were lots of expensive issues/recalls with the early Taycans, which is why they have such high depreciation; Porsche cant sell them fast enough, and they are piling up at dealers - to the extent, dealers dont want to take them back in P/X, and are offering stupidly low money in the hope the owners will sell them privately (according to other YT Taycan owners).
If I lived somewhere with plenty of space to car and charge it [charge it away from the house because of the fire risk]
I would have a small EV runabout to go the shops and back.
But would still need to own a petrol or diesel to actually do anything substantial.
The "fire risk" is smaller per-vehicle than combustion powered cars.
A bigger risk is the electrician thinking they know how tight to screw terminals and not using a torque screwdriver, leading to arcing in the charging unit itself or the consumer unit it's attached to.
There is no fire risk.
@@Nickbaldeagle02
Anyone who deals with safety will tell you that a risk assessment is done by multiplying the likelihood of something happening by the severity of the incident if it did.
The likelihood of a waste paper-basket at a smoking area catching fire is quite high, but the fire can be put out by a simple bucket of sand so the fire risk is very low.
The likely hood of an EV catching fire is comparatively quite low. but if it did the fire cannot be put out so that elevates the fire risk to extremely high.
also when looking at statistics to assess a safety hazard you need to allow for discrepancies in the amount of incidents per the amount of items being looked at.
If there are 100,000 ICE vehicle and 200 of them catch fire that is a low statistic.
But if there are only 10,000 EVs and 50 of them catch fire then that is an extremely high statistic
you mentioned about the touch screen and to ignore it but from experience of my brothers volvo v90 2019 plate car, the heating controls are apart of the touch screen menu, so you kind of have to use them if you become uncomfortable and need to adjust the temp, unless you pull over to do it (not very practical on a motorway to pull over). i really dont like heating controls built into the touch screen system but apparently volvo think its a safe idea.
the other thing about the power of the car, its most likely a car built to drive on the autobahn, but possibly to be driven to a track for a saturday of fun driving a track day for example. the power is nice to have on the road, gives more options to avoid a situation, but its the driver that needs to be disciplined enough to keep it in the speed limits.
I was thinking of buying one of these…..then i woke up 😂
21:10 Most EVs saw inflation on the second hand market during the pandemic and supply chain crises, coinciding with the expansion of the ULEZ in London and the introduction of CAZs in other cities.
The depreciation they saw since then has mostly put the second hand market back where it would have been, perhaps a little steeper than ICE car depreciation over the 20 years prior to the pandemic...
But also, with tech developing all the time AND downward pressure on newer EVs, with more and more models becoming available, it's hardly surprising thst there's depreciation above the typical level seen for bog-standard fire-powered cars have typically seen.
very good thorough review keep them coming more👍
On my newer Mitsubishi a couple of pedestrians came around a corner and I got BRAKE on my dash and HUD. Still getting used to all the beeps and bongs 😂
How much of the battery capacity was left when you arrived home please?
Ideal weather for it, but I wondered how it would cope with damp or greasy surfaces. Perhaps it has a degree of automation to avoid wheel spin etc in poor conditions.
nice video, enjoyed the ride!
Thanks Ashley, These cars are built for autobahn cruising, not for shopping at the supermarket. Whilst they're undoubtedly great to drive, they get caught in traffic jams, just like any other car. Sorry.
They ARE traffic jam, just like the rest of the cars.😉
And they are not made for autobahn cruising, more for twisty rural roads.
Most cars do just good enough on autobahn, unless you «need to» go 200 km/h.
I counted at least four times Ashley commented that being in this Porsche "was a nice place to be".
You are 100x better an on road driver than me.
At about 23 minutes in you talk about the steering feel. We have had a Lotus Elise and a Mazda MX-5. The steering on the Elise was wedded to a fantastic chassis and had no power assistance, so as a result it felt like you were running your fingers over the road surface, but it so direct it was brutal. If there were any major defects in the road surface it would batter your hands, so longer journeys became tiresome. The MX-5 was better in some ways in that even with power steering potentially interfering, it was so well weighted, balanced and direct that you could still feel what the front wheels were doing, giving you great feedback on the grip and traction available, which on decent tyres was considerable. Given the speed limits and congestion on British roads, at a third of the cost of your Porsche, there is no better "fun" car available than the MX-5 IMHO.
Do you use an ev for work ie driving lessons ?
Someone's triggered by posting the same comment twice. Do you want me to post my reply twice Kerry?
Sorry to that one person but Porsche is not only a brand but someone's name, might as well pronounce it correctly.
Problem is that during 2020-2022 Porsche deliberately made these hard to get, pushing up costs, but making a load of them. Genius in terms of turnover for that period, but it totally destroyed the 2nd hand market 2-4 years later, hence why now they have Depreciate so hard. It's nothing to do with it being an EV ... as a lot of cars from that period have had similar depreciation. Pick up a 2nd hard car and you'll get a major deal.
Most cars Depreciate 45-55% over 3 years so any £100k car will lose 1/2 on average. If you can't afford it don't do it ... if you can enjoy it!
Watch Mark McCann's videos about the GT3 RS and find out more about the Taycan and its depreciation. It's an eye-opener.
Petition for Ashley to buy a Taycan🖐🏾
Ask the @TheMacMaster about the depreciation on this car lol.
Tax breaks made the more expensive EVs even cheaper. I never understood that.
For those who get company cars, so management and mostly people on higher-rate tax bands.
Some companies even have outrageous policies not allowing employees on the standard tax band to use the BIK scheme to buy an EV.
(There's a legal requirement that you always take home minimum wage after any BIK so it's partly the government's fault as well)
Ashley taking the long way home! Lol
What should be done in england is to take the speed limit off the motorways, or increase it. Afterall they are the only road types reserved for faster motor traffic. So maybe changing it from 110km/h to maybe 140 would be a improvement. I moved to work from england to germany and even though i dont drive, i was a passanger many times and driving on the Autobahns where you see the "national speed limit sign" is very fun, you must drive safely but if the the car allows it, you bomb it. Meaning riding such cars like that Porsche is much more fun. Lets be honest, speed limits on UK motorways are a joke, they aren't A roads which (rightfully so) everybody can use.
I've driven on the German autobahn, the German's have impeccable road dicsapline. People in the uk drive like twats. It's definitely not a good idea.
I think the idea of EV is to just buy and run it into the ground and then get a new one.....depreciation on them is very high and the battery range decreases with age.
8:10 Wait!! Where was the honing it up the side of the lorry, slamming on the brakes, blasting the horn and tapping the dash cam?
My Sprinter Campervan is narrower than this (until you include the lorry like Mirrors)!
Dont buy now, it will cost around 10K next week XD
'Today's video is me being paid to say nice things about my sponsor'
Anyone who buys one of these needs a checkup from the neck up. Nope there are so many good leasing deals at the moment, that's the way to go on something that depreciates so quickly. 🙂
Edit: I just checked prices, four years lease would cost £54K, £1000 pm + deposit. Yes a lot of money but I'm sure that's less than the depreciation loss on buying it.
If you lease on salary sacrifice, it comes off salary before tax and pension … which can get cost down to £400 odd per month net.
Would definitely lease one, been keeping my eye on it for a while now. Would never purchase one though, everyday it feels like it's losing money. Auto trader listing ones for 47k. Madness
Great vid as always. But it does beg the question: what’s the point of owning a fast car in the UK when we don’t have autobahns / cheap race tracks to go to?
Getting up to the speed limit slightly quicker is not using the car to its full potential IMO
Isle of Man 😊
You don't follow speed limits when you buy these cars.
30-60 sounded like warp speed 😂😂
Have you driven the Mach-E? It's similar to the Tesla but I feel has better design. The Tycan is performance and luxury when you don't need it. It was a car I considered when I ended up buying a Mach-E but at twice the price for nothing more than a few extra modes that I'd never use and the size of it was not worth the cash. If Ford let you drive one even to review I'm sure you woukd enjoy it.
The depreciation is a non issue. The people that buy these don't worry about it, then poorer people benefit a few years down the line.
Interesting video. Wonder why they're dropping money so much. They're making 10x as many electric cars as non electric at Porsche. So maybe oversupply to the market.
What are we looking at, 80 grand? 500+ bhp in a 2.2 ton car. They're trying to overcome physics with sheer brute force. Certainly not a sports car. A handy driver in an Alpine A110 would lap it in short time on the track after the Porsche's brakes (ceramic, carbon or whatever) have melted trying to stop 2 ton from 150 mph.
I wonder if the Porsche dealer on Cheshire Oaks will let me borrow one of these for my ADI PT2 test. 🤔
The taycan is my favourite electric car, though i wouldn’t own one as electric cars aren’t the answer in my opinion
Depends what the question is.
Why are you indicating whilst at a red light? Are you trying to blind those who are behind you?
Poser's car! Perfect for sitting in the daily traffic jam!
Think you might enjoy driving a i4, being an experienced BMW driver… (not in that sense!). Far more practical than Taycan with boot space etc.
personally I think the interior lets the taycan down a lot, does not look/feel like 100k worth IMO
Trouble seeing the traffic lights? 2:58
your taycan is about 6 inches smaller in both dimensions than the "compact" wagon our family car is. there's your difference between US and UK car sizes.
I did notice that North American parking spaces are larger than the UK. And of course the roads are wider. Interestingly also, except for residential side streets, the typical UK "meeting situation" due to parked cars on surface streets is very rare in Canada or the USA
@@ibs5080 yes, we are vary protective of our traffic lanes and our sidewalks (pavements) people are not allowed to obstruct either with parked cars.
and yet, even with out more generous lanes and parking spaces, I still see people who can't keep a mini inside the line.
Ahhh the Macmasters car of choice, and is £30,000 in a hole and can’t get out of it. I’m seriously thinking in May switching to an EV, after years of calling them out I’ve looked at my driving habits and annual mileage, can charge at home, unfortunately the figures don’t lie, over a 3 year lease I’d be thousands cheaper in an EV over any ICE, decision needs to by made by mid May.
If you can charge at home and don't commonly drive so far that you would need to fast charge, they are actually very good to own. If you are a business traveler regularly doing 2-300 miles or more in a day with time-critical meetings, well then an EV is definitely more compromised.
I do >500 mile days in my Tesla several times a year and it really isn't that bad. We drive round every summer from central Norway to the UK (1850 miles), and i've done that in 3 days. Yes, on paper it takes longer than a diesel, but when we actually compared times for the 530 mile trip to my in-laws they were the same cos we stop in the same places for the same times, irrespective of the car. But as a family we like to stop every 2.5 to 3 hours. If you can drive 5 hours in one sitting then you will experience some inconvenience.
@@15bit62 it’s only 2 journeys from West highlands to Preston per year that’s out with the range, I’m now disabled and with Motability, they’ve slashed the upfront payments for most EV’s, for the ones I’m looking at they’re £1700-1000 cheaper than equivalent ICE’s it really is a no brainer.
@@hozzer68 Yeah, i can see the appeal. One thing i would recommend though - before committing check out some fast chargers and be sure you can use them. If you have a friend with an EV, perhaps get them to drive you round to a couple of fast chargers for you to try out. Or if you don't need a modified vehicle, get a weekend test drive from a dealer. I don't want to pry into the nature of your disability, but the fast charger cables can be very heavy (heavier than a petrol hose) and i've found some chargers are far from easy to use even for someone fully able-bodied like myself.
@@15bit62 I can get a 22kw home charger and I’m already with octopus which is fine with the pod go and either car the car would be an ID 4 or Skoda enyac 210kw 77or 82kw/h battery both CCS & type 2
@@hozzer68 Home charging won't be a problem cos you can lay it out how you like. And if you get a charger which you can plug a cable into, then you can buy a cable as long as you like. You won't need 22kW, as very few cars will take more than 11kW. And you really don't even need that - i charge mine at 3-4kW.
The issue is fast chargers. Even if you only need to use them a couple of times a year, you still need to be able to use them. And to frank, i don't think accessibility is high on the spec list for quite a lot of locations.
Both the Enyaq and ID4 are really nice cars. I tend to be more of a Skoda fan, as they seem to have more attention to detail with all those little family-friendly features like storage places and such.
Ashley, is this video an ad?