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@@SeanVedell I personally wouldn't rely solely on the Eclair if your room is larger than say 15 x 15 with 8 foot ceilings. That's just me, but then again it did work in our main room which is larger than that, so....
I bought it after your review. Am happy with it. Yes when playing dolby atmos, the dialogue is muffled but good backround surround sounds. For this, i will change to bluetooth connection, press AI sound, then change back to eARC. Then the dialogue will be clear with the surround sounds like the baseline dolby atmos.
Yeah, as you mentioned, I’d use it in my master bedroom as a compact solution to improve my TV’s speakers. I think the demographic LG should be targeting is college kids in little dorm rooms. And I totally agree that people need to be more open to change and the advancements in technology that are inevitable! We’re in the process of getting a new house built and up until a few months ago, I was thinking traditional wired speaker system in my living room, or bust. Now I’m totally fine with having a Sony HT-A9 in our open floor plan because it just works better! Less obtrusive, and speaker placement doesn’t have to be exact. It’s all about processing capabilities, and Sony raised the bar on that front. Great review as always! 🤘
You guys are right, I immediately thought of using this in my bedroom or study when I saw this. I have a Marshall Stanmore 2 which is a chunky boy in terms of portable BT speakers. Honestly its pretty much stationary in that one room so it might as well be a sound bar. So I guess that is what the LG competes with? Large BT speakers?
Doesn't have a battery and bluetooth connectivity for dual purpose use. Seems like a missed opportunity unless LG has a wireless version of this prepared for the future.
Dsp and psychoacoustics are such magic things. I wish someone made a traditional speaker system that can do the same thing on top of actual placement. If they can produce such crazy presentations with a small size, i can only imagine what it can do with more size
I can confirm the Eclair is a great sound bar. It has excellent clarity, especially when you dial it in. I boosted the bass to 1, and I have the sub set to 1. It's great for tv and movies. As Andrew said, it's good for background music. My heart is still with the Klipsch Cinema 600. The Klipsch just sounds more powerful. I also prefer the Klipsch's subwoofer compared to the smaller Eclair's. Overall - A great soundbar. Try to get it on sale.
7:42 I have an LG soundbar here I think it's the SJ3 and it does that too. Not only that but the hdmi ARC audio just stops working from time to time with it too. I replaced it with a SONY HT S20R a few days ago though. In some ways the SONY is a step backwards because the subwoofer sucks and it doesn't have any form of DTS support. But I still rather the SONY because of the rear speakers. I also have a DENON S216 with DTS virtual X and the DTS virtual X doesn't make it sound like there's heights or rear speakers. Not even a little bit. I have the SONY HT S20R as a stopgap for about a year until I can get an Atmos soundbar with wireless speakers. Something like the LG SN7Y which you can buy as a soundbar alone and then add the subwoofer then the wireless rear speaker kit later on. I've tried soundbars thatake claims of Dolby sound or virtual surround and none of them can properly simulate rear speakers properly.
I had a similar issue with the Vizio Elevate. But instead of hearing a wierd sound, the bar cut off sound for 2 seconds and then resume. I've notice this issue while switching from PCM 2.0 to Dolby Digital (viewing Netflix preview vs Watching the Show for example) and every time the Movie, Game or show had long silent part. I find this issue so annoying that ended up returning it.
Just got an Eclair and was watching reviews and ended up here. I just wanted to say as a gamer I don’t think most gamers would use a sound bar for gaming. Many use headsets so the pass through isn’t as important for gamers. As an audiophile, it is difficult to tune to the way I prefer sound, but once I got it to where I like it, it sounds pretty good. Not as good as my Edifier speakers, but enjoyable. I appreciate your review, it was very informative and highly useful.
Wow…I was researching this bar for the past few weeks and wondered when I would finally find a decent review. Giving up I went ahead and purchased the bar and actually set up last night. No joke this bar can pack a punch. Glad to see you reviewed the Eclair. Love y’all’s channel.
I would like to add a remark about the Eclair that I failed to point out in the review. For those of you who are visually impaired, the Eclair does repeat remote commands in a very pleasing voice. For example, if you hit the button for AI Sound mode the Eclair will talkback and say, "AI Sound Mode Selected". This can be defeated in the App, but it is on by default. So, if you are looking for this level of functionality the Eclair should be on your list of soundbars to consider. (EDIT) Also the Eclair is currently at its lowest price over on Amazon. Get yours here: amzn.to/3rHc3p0 Enjoy the show and thanks for watching!
As someone who is blind, that’s very interesting, thank you for pointing it out. My main system is centered around the Yamaha rxv385 receiver, and it is quite frustrating to have to wait for someone cited to be available to do something as simple as fix the speaker configuration that YAPO miscalibrated
I don't know if it was clear or not in my segment about the LG Soundbar App and setup, but the Eclair also has BASIC auto room tuning which is shown here: 02:03
I have one in white and while impressive for its size, it's not worth the money. If you listen to stereo content, sure, it's awesome considering the size. Anything above that (surround/atmos) is simply not present. Yesterday I was watching Hans Zimmer Live in Prague (both 7.1 and 5.1 audios) and some voices or instruments simply couldn't be heard at all. I was expecting that the soundbar somewhat downmixed the audio streams or used the top firing speakers to reproduce the rear channels from the 5.1 audio setup, but no, that didn't happen. And the delay!! I can definitely notice a delay between video and sound output (using HDMI eARC). It would be AWESOME if LG released wireless rear channels to add up to the Eclair. Then this soundbar would be epic. Another annoying thing is that if you're using the soundbar in eARC mode and then decide to open the app to adjust the sound it *automatically* switches to Bluetooth mode and switches to the phone sound. Super annoying.
That Polk mini is an assassin. I heard it at Best Buy and thought it was a full size bar. The closer I got to it, the more I said "nah, there's no way...naahhhhh". I'd love to listen to THIS one soon
Great review! I love my eclair and I use mine as a Dolby Atmos sound bar connected to my Mac for gaming (before I get railed on, I also do remote play with Steam Deck and GeForce Now on it), and Apple Music and Apple TV+ spatial audio. I find it perfect for a desktop sound bar due to its convenient size. I also totally agree with keeping an open minded about new generations of sound bars that are breaking the mold in design and delivering simpler, more accessible experiences for people with different use cases. For that, I think the eclair exceeds on many levels. By the way, gamers can definitely get by with this as you had mentioned connecting consoles directly to the TV first then to the eclair if their TV supports eARC since the Eclair itself is eARC capable (I don’t think I recall hearing the eARC mentioned…), so with that in mind, you’ll still definitely be able to use Dolby Atmos processing without any compromising sound quality.
Andrew!!! What have u done??? Lol just kidding. great review as usual. I agree that with an open-mindedness, small form factor with big sound will be the future indeed. Do you think this might work for a small bathroom? :)
If you want a small sound bar with better Atmos effect, pick the Sonos beam gen 2, the only thing with Sonos is that it lacks of a dedicated subwoofer. But the sound is better.
Have you ever thought of a video about the differences between "levels" of sound equipment, for people who are looking to go from entry level to higher-end gear? After binging a bunch of your videos, I recently ordered an Onkyo TX-NR7100 - my first non-budget home audio purchase. But the idea of setting up and maintaining an AV receiver that cost more than my first car is a little intimidating. Will it make different assumptions about my level of understanding vs. budget gear? Do I need to be more careful with it in any specific way?
I’m in the middle of shopping for a soundbar for my 55” LG OLED and wasn’t sure if the Eclair or the Samsung Q750B for $480 is a better option for my small bedroom (9ft.7inx12)?
I highly recommend either the Vizio M512a-h6, which is on sale for $350 right now and comes with a soundbar with upfiring drivers, a sub and 2 rear surround speakers. It's the highest rated budget Atmos system. The Polk Signa S4 is also great for $330 and has Atmos as well, but no rear surrounds. Both will be better than the two you listed, in addition to being less expensive than either as well
I've got the Sonos Beam and two Sonos Ones as rears in our living room because it's just easy without the wires; just plug them in. I retreat to the basement where I have the old fashioned 5.1 surround sound system with 4 Mirage fronts and rears and a Klipsch center and sub.(I know, they don't match but sounds good to me). I think you'll be surprised with the Sonos sound. I've got the Move too for the kitchen.
Hi buddy, so for 4k 120hz gaming, LG éclair earc into earc on LG C1 TV and ps5/Xbox series X hdmi into TV hdmi? If yes any specific hdmi spec cable to use ?
Yes. In regard to tv with only 2 hdmi 2.1, multiple devices like ps5 / xsx may need to get plugged into the LG Eclair hdmi ports vs the LG C & G series that goes directly into the tv because of more 2.1 hdmi ports. It's perfect for the LG C & G series.
"I see this as the future of audio." - Kristi. You expected some backlash at this but fortunately I'm not here to criticize. Rather, I just want to know if you see soundbars and active wireless systems such as Sony's HT-A9 replacing traditional passive speakers and separates completely, ultimately leading to the disappearance of the latter. Perhaps this is where the backlash comes from.
Great review Andrew and Kristi. Seems an interesting option for a bedroom or and outdoor space without spending too much. Great that Andrew will review the Beam gen 2. As other brands, Sonos has its advantages and its drawbacks. No hdmi inputs and lack of control of each driver but otherwise, where it matters, it sounds great. Will be waiting for your review. Always interesting to get your opinions. Cheers
I was drawn to this sound bar because of the low vibration sub woofer. It lived up to this, but... The centre speaker is just so weedy. There's no weight to voices and they sound very boxy. Not a pleasant listening experience. I expected a narrow soundstage, but not one that sounds like they are talking through a toilet roll tube.
I confirm, listened to this in a shop and this was the worst, flattest, dullest bar along with Hisense HS214. And I am no audiophile, I just happen to have ears.
I think it's pretty cool is it something I'm into no do I have a sound bar in my bedroom yes But I also have a 9.4.4 system in my theater I can see where this application would come in handy it definitely is not for the blithering idiots that buy is other than idiots that buy Magico lol
I'm looking to update my home theater system so i've been watching tons of your videos and i finally gotta ask... Are you Will Wheaton reviewing stuff using fake name cause i just watched all the seasons of Big Bang Theory and you sound like him and actually also kinda look like him. Also i'm thinking of getting that Sony HT-A9 so i'm not getting too much out of subject here. Love the channel!
Soundbars are not a replacement for a proper home theatre speaker layout. Not even close. For people to expect it to deliver a similar performance is pretty ridiculous, tbh.
If I have to choose between this one and the LG S65Q, what would be a better choice, assuming of course that I don't have any ATMOS content, so ATMOS is irrelevant.
This is not the future for speakers for me and that's by far. Feels like simple big box speakers are being made overly complex to milk consumers? Ridiculous.
Great review. Anything thats named after a cream cake gets my attention so I was interested in this small form factor soundbar. Maybe the next incarnation will be slightly bigger and have the network connection and those other nice things to have. Maybe it will be round and it will be called "The Profiterole"......... yummy
The soundbar really doesn't need to support 4k/120 as long as your tv does. Just plug your console or whatever to the tv and you'll still get sound from the bar. I have a Denon receiver that only does 4k/60, but my PS5 is connected to my LG CX and I still get 4k/120 with sound coming from my home theater speakers.
I just visited the parents house for xmas and I had to sleep in my old room which they made into the guest bedroom and I would say this would be a huge audio upgrade from the just having the TV speakers in that room. for the size of the room I bet this would be great.
Picked up one for my parents, I would say thank goodness for store reserve and pickup, but no one in my area seems interested in these at all. LOL!!! Great system at $500, incredible and unbelievable at $99 bucks. Even bought a 2-year warranty for $10, just so the gods who bestowed this deal upon me would not smite me. LOL!!
@@robinkleinsteuber5217 😂😂😂😂 it undeniably fits there very well actually, that was the first place that came to my mind. But then I decided to 'upgrade' it to a different area
Good, my only REAL question Is How would GR research improve this? Buy any way, i actually would like to Buy something like this for my bedroom, sometimes for whatever reason my home can be todo much, eitherbthat ir maybe i just don't want to be interrupted by visitors or something like that. Have a nice weekend guys!
I could see this getting loud in home offices or small apartment bedrooms where the sound has more to reflect off of. If I needed something for say, a hotel room with an ARC/eARC supported TV inside of it (just the bar as the sub might be a bit too large to bring with me😂), this would be my go to.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Maybe the sub could fit in a large size duffel bag or suitcase, but I’d personally leave it and use the bar by itself if that’s doable; but yes, if one were to bring the sub as well then planning accordingly would be necessary.👍
I think the question is, does this system integrate with other LG sound bars, woofers, speakers and TV's. Samsung and Sony are at that systems integration stage, is LG? Next question is how does it compare to the Sony HT- A9. I understand the HT-A9 costs a lot more but again... If all the LG Sound Bars, Woofers integrated with each other and their TV's the cost of each part adds up so you could then compare the systems... LG has to take that step in order to play in the same sand pit as Samsung and Sony or even Sonos systems.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews That's good - she's not super technical - she lives quite far from me so easy 'remote' setup is a plus! This definitely seems like a step up from just a soundbar too. Thanks for this video and keep up the great work!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I heard that the subwoofer doesn't vibrate the floor as much as others, making it great for apartments. Do you feel that as well? Thanks
🤣 but I need the wind coming out of my speakers🤣 700$ in Canada, it's always the same injustice and now the klh model 5s will be 3750 in February...loved the funny review !
It does sound like this is kind of the sound quality one would want from a TV. I remember the 1990s when TVs actually sounded good (Beovision MX7000 for example). Then flat panels happened. So, ironically, this is the future of TV sound, like Kristi said. But also a reminder of how bad TV sound became with extremely thin TV panels.
No reason to believe it wouldn't. Tap on the link above in the pinned comment and you should be able to figure out the measurements so you can be certain.
The wife factor plays a huge role with looks and budget. And before someone says it, because I know someone is thinking it: I'm not giving up my wife. She cooks far too many amazing meals, tolerates my nonsense, and is otherwise perfectly reasonable. I'd love a stereo or 5.1 setup with Sonus Fabers, Magnepans, Klipsch, or powered speakers. But with a wife who *hates* the look of traditional speakers, and even less so some of the new ones like LS50 Metas, I'm limited. And to be honest with myself, ported speakers or the KLH Model 5s would be very difficult to manage in our 10x15 living space anyway. So sound bars are really the best option. Second consideration: budget. I think I could actually buy the Eclair and not feel awful given some upcoming expenses. (They're big. Trust me.) My preference would be for something strong for music like the Ambeo, but frugality *must* remain a consideration. People who disagree that budget is a serious consideration are welcome to donate to my cause :) And in the scheme of things, as Andrew pointed out in an earlier video, these things don't matter. So I'd give these a listen.
Great review. Bedroom probably or drag it outdoors for movie night on occasion. But the problem with most sound bars is they're too small. For those who hang their tv and have a console below it like you do why hasn't a company like Kef made a large sound bar with say 3 of their coaxial 5.25" speakers with dual wireless sub and surround speaker connectivity as an option ? 🤔 Maybe I'm crazy but I believe there's a market for a product like that. Sony has a great product (HT A-9) but without dual sub option .... Eeh...
I think they're both pretty great! If space is tight and you want Atmos support, the LG. If you have a little room for a bigger bar and better sub, the Klipsch Cinema 600 all day.
I think you guys were spot on with the practical usage i.e dorm rooms and limited space. I'm a Sonos guy but I wouldn't mind recommending this based off this video and the fact that it's on sale on Amazon right now for like $390 (that's a good price for a soundbar and sub in today's world). Can't wait for you to review Sonos. I love their products but I am done buying more due to price and space. Definitely a product for people who have the money and like simplicity + aesthetic and like multi-room audio. Interested in your guys take. Keep up the good work!
Great review and great product. Although not a big fan of sound bars as substitute of multiple speakers, this one is "different", not expensive, simple to set up, not needy of too much real estate and pleasing to the eye. Atmos is not the best? So what, there was life before it and for small rooms and/or bedrooms the no Atmos choice for a better overall sound is just fine. Trust me, there will be a market for this. If I didn't have already a sound solution in my bedroom, a "recycled Onkyo receiver and Klipsch R-51M speakers, I would get it in a heartbeat.
I live in an apartment, with thin walls, not a whole lot of space for a robust setup, and a cat that likes to knock over and stand on everything. I can’t go blasting after 10pm anyway, or else a certain neighbor will make a noise complaint. This is perfect for me until I get a house.
QOTD: in my home office / computer desk. There is no good spot on my desk for stereo speakers, especially when you factor in the wall clearance required for good sound. Thank you for insisting that your viewers not only see this as a gadget for others, but actually take time to think about where they would use this. I'm actually considering this as an option now.
QOTD: This would probablygo in my bedroom. I have a traditional home theater system in the living room, but I've been planning to use a soundbar mounted to the wall with my tv in the bedroom to reduce the footprint. My only concern with soundbars is that I had to get silk dome tweeters for my home theater system because I was experiencing ear pain with soft-dome tweeters.
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Bedrooms. Watching to see how big a room you think it will be hefty enough for.
I saw that Sony flash 🤣
@@SeanVedell I personally wouldn't rely solely on the Eclair if your room is larger than say 15 x 15 with 8 foot ceilings. That's just me, but then again it did work in our main room which is larger than that, so....
I bought it after your review. Am happy with it. Yes when playing dolby atmos, the dialogue is muffled but good backround surround sounds. For this, i will change to bluetooth connection, press AI sound, then change back to eARC. Then the dialogue will be clear with the surround sounds like the baseline dolby atmos.
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Yeah, as you mentioned, I’d use it in my master bedroom as a compact solution to improve my TV’s speakers. I think the demographic LG should be targeting is college kids in little dorm rooms.
And I totally agree that people need to be more open to change and the advancements in technology that are inevitable! We’re in the process of getting a new house built and up until a few months ago, I was thinking traditional wired speaker system in my living room, or bust. Now I’m totally fine with having a Sony HT-A9 in our open floor plan because it just works better! Less obtrusive, and speaker placement doesn’t have to be exact. It’s all about processing capabilities, and Sony raised the bar on that front.
Great review as always! 🤘
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You guys are right, I immediately thought of using this in my bedroom or study when I saw this. I have a Marshall Stanmore 2 which is a chunky boy in terms of portable BT speakers. Honestly its pretty much stationary in that one room so it might as well be a sound bar. So I guess that is what the LG competes with? Large BT speakers?
The LG definitely competes with larger BT speakers, while offering more or greater functionality.
Doesn't have a battery and bluetooth connectivity for dual purpose use. Seems like a missed opportunity unless LG has a wireless version of this prepared for the future.
I swear it's not worth it. Im disappointed for some reasons. Not what i expected.
Dsp and psychoacoustics are such magic things. I wish someone made a traditional speaker system that can do the same thing on top of actual placement. If they can produce such crazy presentations with a small size, i can only imagine what it can do with more size
Those who dismiss soundbars, which admittedly includes me at times, need to remember that this hobby on every level is about having fun.
Thank you, Bob. Very important to remember!
Does it include trolling?
It looks like soundbars are doing to traditional speakers what phone cameras did to the point and shoot segment of the photo market.
yep!
Great analogy!
Stereo separation would be zero. A sound bar needs to be a meter wide minimum to create a decent sound stage.
True, it sucks. Got this today and sending it back. There is no sense of "sides"
I can confirm the Eclair is a great sound bar. It has excellent clarity, especially when you dial it in. I boosted the bass to 1, and I have the sub set to 1. It's great for tv and movies. As Andrew said, it's good for background music. My heart is still with the Klipsch Cinema 600. The Klipsch just sounds more powerful. I also prefer the Klipsch's subwoofer compared to the smaller Eclair's. Overall - A great soundbar. Try to get it on sale.
Oh! My lunch will be so enjoyable today, thanks to this new video! Always a celebration when a new one drops.
7:42 I have an LG soundbar here I think it's the SJ3 and it does that too. Not only that but the hdmi ARC audio just stops working from time to time with it too.
I replaced it with a SONY HT S20R a few days ago though. In some ways the SONY is a step backwards because the subwoofer sucks and it doesn't have any form of DTS support. But I still rather the SONY because of the rear speakers.
I also have a DENON S216 with DTS virtual X and the DTS virtual X doesn't make it sound like there's heights or rear speakers. Not even a little bit.
I have the SONY HT S20R as a stopgap for about a year until I can get an Atmos soundbar with wireless speakers. Something like the LG SN7Y which you can buy as a soundbar alone and then add the subwoofer then the wireless rear speaker kit later on.
I've tried soundbars thatake claims of Dolby sound or virtual surround and none of them can properly simulate rear speakers properly.
I had a similar issue with the Vizio Elevate. But instead of hearing a wierd sound, the bar cut off sound for 2 seconds and then resume. I've notice this issue while switching from PCM 2.0 to Dolby Digital (viewing Netflix preview vs Watching the Show for example) and every time the Movie, Game or show had long silent part. I find this issue so annoying that ended up returning it.
Blasphemers! I probably shouldn't even watch this. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. :-)
HAHAHAHA Appreciate it Snarky!
Just got an Eclair and was watching reviews and ended up here. I just wanted to say as a gamer I don’t think most gamers would use a sound bar for gaming. Many use headsets so the pass through isn’t as important for gamers. As an audiophile, it is difficult to tune to the way I prefer sound, but once I got it to where I like it, it sounds pretty good. Not as good as my Edifier speakers, but enjoyable. I appreciate your review, it was very informative and highly useful.
Thank you so much, Flareware! We appreciate you watching and sharing your personal experience.
Wow…I was researching this bar for the past few weeks and wondered when I would finally find a decent review. Giving up I went ahead and purchased the bar and actually set up last night. No joke this bar can pack a punch. Glad to see you reviewed the Eclair. Love y’all’s channel.
So glad to hear from someone who has this bar! Very happy to know you share in our experience. Thanks for watching, Jacob!
Sir pls suggest me a good Dolby Atmos sound bar that really work
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I would like to add a remark about the Eclair that I failed to point out in the review. For those of you who are visually impaired, the Eclair does repeat remote commands in a very pleasing voice. For example, if you hit the button for AI Sound mode the Eclair will talkback and say, "AI Sound Mode Selected". This can be defeated in the App, but it is on by default. So, if you are looking for this level of functionality the Eclair should be on your list of soundbars to consider. (EDIT) Also the Eclair is currently at its lowest price over on Amazon. Get yours here: amzn.to/3rHc3p0 Enjoy the show and thanks for watching!
As someone who is blind, that’s very interesting, thank you for pointing it out. My main system is centered around the Yamaha rxv385 receiver, and it is quite frustrating to have to wait for someone cited to be available to do something as simple as fix the speaker configuration that YAPO miscalibrated
I don't know if it was clear or not in my segment about the LG Soundbar App and setup, but the Eclair also has BASIC auto room tuning which is shown here: 02:03
Small soundbar with a massive subwoofer. Kind of defeats the purpose. I'd rather get a tv with a built-in soundbar. . Much cleaner look.
Not a product for me, but damn it's cute.
Wonder how many of these are required to match volume or weight of ambeo 😂... But you got to appreciate the engineering ❤️
Interesting question.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Time for a sidebar soundbar video. 🤣🤣
For 400 bucks this honestly might be what I get for my small apartment. If you’re hating on this then you’re not looking at it for it’s target setup
Morning everybody!! Thanks for joining us today.
I’m excited for the Sonos review!
Us too!
I have one in white and while impressive for its size, it's not worth the money.
If you listen to stereo content, sure, it's awesome considering the size. Anything above that (surround/atmos) is simply not present.
Yesterday I was watching Hans Zimmer Live in Prague (both 7.1 and 5.1 audios) and some voices or instruments simply couldn't be heard at all. I was expecting that the soundbar somewhat downmixed the audio streams or used the top firing speakers to reproduce the rear channels from the 5.1 audio setup, but no, that didn't happen.
And the delay!! I can definitely notice a delay between video and sound output (using HDMI eARC).
It would be AWESOME if LG released wireless rear channels to add up to the Eclair. Then this soundbar would be epic.
Another annoying thing is that if you're using the soundbar in eARC mode and then decide to open the app to adjust the sound it *automatically* switches to Bluetooth mode and switches to the phone sound. Super annoying.
That's not a sound bar. Thats a sound pill.
It's small but mighty!
The target consumer is probably also not the one with an 8k TV ;)
That Polk mini is an assassin. I heard it at Best Buy and thought it was a full size bar. The closer I got to it, the more I said "nah, there's no way...naahhhhh". I'd love to listen to THIS one soon
Maybe we should have it on the channel then? Thanks for the insight!
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Great review! I love my eclair and I use mine as a Dolby Atmos sound bar connected to my Mac for gaming (before I get railed on, I also do remote play with Steam Deck and GeForce Now on it), and Apple Music and Apple TV+ spatial audio. I find it perfect for a desktop sound bar due to its convenient size. I also totally agree with keeping an open minded about new generations of sound bars that are breaking the mold in design and delivering simpler, more accessible experiences for people with different use cases. For that, I think the eclair exceeds on many levels.
By the way, gamers can definitely get by with this as you had mentioned connecting consoles directly to the TV first then to the eclair if their TV supports eARC since the Eclair itself is eARC capable (I don’t think I recall hearing the eARC mentioned…), so with that in mind, you’ll still definitely be able to use Dolby Atmos processing without any compromising sound quality.
Hi Andrew, please suggest a dolby atmos soundbar apt for a small space (1200 sqft). It has to be neighbor friendly 😀 but immersive
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Andrew!!! What have u done??? Lol just kidding. great review as usual. I agree that with an open-mindedness, small form factor with big sound will be the future indeed. Do you think this might work for a small bathroom? :)
I think the Eclair would be near ideal in a bedroom setup.
Someone didn’t watch to the end…😥
Oh no..no...no.
No way I'm going to qualifying that as a home theater.
I would not recommend it. I had it at hoem for a week but i was disaapointed and sent it back ;-(
You forgot about the DTS:X review. That's why I came here.
If you want a small sound bar with better Atmos effect, pick the Sonos beam gen 2, the only thing with Sonos is that it lacks of a dedicated subwoofer. But the sound is better.
Have you ever thought of a video about the differences between "levels" of sound equipment, for people who are looking to go from entry level to higher-end gear?
After binging a bunch of your videos, I recently ordered an Onkyo TX-NR7100 - my first non-budget home audio purchase.
But the idea of setting up and maintaining an AV receiver that cost more than my first car is a little intimidating.
Will it make different assumptions about my level of understanding vs. budget gear?
Do I need to be more careful with it in any specific way?
I’m in the middle of shopping for a soundbar for my 55” LG OLED and wasn’t sure if the Eclair or the Samsung Q750B for $480 is a better option for my small bedroom (9ft.7inx12)?
I highly recommend either the Vizio M512a-h6, which is on sale for $350 right now and comes with a soundbar with upfiring drivers, a sub and 2 rear surround speakers. It's the highest rated budget Atmos system. The Polk Signa S4 is also great for $330 and has Atmos as well, but no rear surrounds. Both will be better than the two you listed, in addition to being less expensive than either as well
I've got the Sonos Beam and two Sonos Ones as rears in our living room because it's just easy without the wires; just plug them in. I retreat to the basement where I have the old fashioned 5.1 surround sound system with 4 Mirage fronts and rears and a Klipsch center and sub.(I know, they don't match but sounds good to me). I think you'll be surprised with the Sonos sound. I've got the Move too for the kitchen.
Hi buddy, so for 4k 120hz gaming, LG éclair earc into earc on LG C1 TV and ps5/Xbox series X hdmi into TV hdmi? If yes any specific hdmi spec cable to use ?
If you’re using a series x, use the cable that comes with the xbox. Or just make sure it’s a hdmi 2.1
Yes. In regard to tv with only 2 hdmi 2.1, multiple devices like ps5 / xsx may need to get plugged into the LG Eclair hdmi ports vs the LG C & G series that goes directly into the tv because of more 2.1 hdmi ports. It's perfect for the LG C & G series.
put it in the garage with a screen set up and have a Block Party for Sunday Games.
"I see this as the future of audio." - Kristi.
You expected some backlash at this but fortunately I'm not here to criticize. Rather, I just want to know if you see soundbars and active wireless systems such as Sony's HT-A9 replacing traditional passive speakers and separates completely, ultimately leading to the disappearance of the latter. Perhaps this is where the backlash comes from.
this lg or the jbl bar 5 multibeam?
Couldn’t wait for your wife’s opinion..
Thank you, Howard!
Great review Andrew and Kristi. Seems an interesting option for a bedroom or and outdoor space without spending too much. Great that Andrew will review the Beam gen 2. As other brands, Sonos has its advantages and its drawbacks. No hdmi inputs and lack of control of each driver but otherwise, where it matters, it sounds great. Will be waiting for your review. Always interesting to get your opinions. Cheers
I was drawn to this sound bar because of the low vibration sub woofer. It lived up to this, but... The centre speaker is just so weedy. There's no weight to voices and they sound very boxy. Not a pleasant listening experience. I expected a narrow soundstage, but not one that sounds like they are talking through a toilet roll tube.
I agree, far from expectation. Not recommend.
What is meant with low vibration subwoofer
I confirm, listened to this in a shop and this was the worst, flattest, dullest bar along with Hisense HS214. And I am no audiophile, I just happen to have ears.
I’d be very curious to see how this compares audio wise to doing two Echo Studios with Sub. Very similar in price overall.
I think it's pretty cool is it something I'm into no do I have a sound bar in my bedroom yes But I also have a 9.4.4 system in my theater I can see where this application would come in handy it definitely is not for the blithering idiots that buy is other than idiots that buy Magico lol
QOTD: I’d consider it for a home office solution if space is a premium. Curious how it sounds for near field listening.
I'm looking to update my home theater system so i've been watching tons of your videos and i finally gotta ask... Are you Will Wheaton reviewing stuff using fake name cause i just watched all the seasons of Big Bang Theory and you sound like him and actually also kinda look like him. Also i'm thinking of getting that Sony HT-A9 so i'm not getting too much out of subject here. Love the channel!
Man it’s tiny! (That’s what she said…)
That didn't take long. Thanks for joining us!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Yeah, I blame my recent binge of The Office. Thanks for the review!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Also what she said. ;P
BOlab 28 in a small sound bar (the future) maybe or the sony HT A9 system maybe, or maybe LG will progress to those levels of processing.
Soundbars are not a replacement for a proper home theatre speaker layout. Not even close. For people to expect it to deliver a similar performance is pretty ridiculous, tbh.
the LG Eclair has a big WAF - Wife acceptance factor...
Naaah my wife likes bigger
If I have to choose between this one and the LG S65Q, what would be a better choice, assuming of course that I don't have any ATMOS content, so ATMOS is irrelevant.
This is not the future for speakers for me and that's by far. Feels like simple big box speakers are being made overly complex to milk consumers? Ridiculous.
Great review. Anything thats named after a cream cake gets my attention so I was interested in this small form factor soundbar. Maybe the next incarnation will be slightly bigger and have the network connection and those other nice things to have. Maybe it will be round and it will be called "The Profiterole"......... yummy
We have candy in Australia called Eclairs. They have soft chocolate centres covered with chewy caramel
How did you hide your cables from the tv to trout rack? 🤔 great review man! Thanks a lot
I was intrigued by this speaker until you said it did not support 4k@120. I switched off there after. Sorry.
The soundbar really doesn't need to support 4k/120 as long as your tv does. Just plug your console or whatever to the tv and you'll still get sound from the bar.
I have a Denon receiver that only does 4k/60, but my PS5 is connected to my LG CX and I still get 4k/120 with sound coming from my home theater speakers.
very cool small room solution....love it
It is very cool.
Still waiting for the sonos arc review Andrew. Was hoping you would just buy it and test it out as an objective reviewer
Not a fan of that price point...
I just visited the parents house for xmas and I had to sleep in my old room which they made into the guest bedroom and I would say this would be a huge audio upgrade from the just having the TV speakers in that room. for the size of the room I bet this would be great.
Totally agree!
I guess the Dolby Atmos performance is something that could be changed via a firmware update.
Yes, I believe that would be possible as it appears to be phase and time delay related. Seems like something that could be remedied via software.
Currently $400 on sale on Amazon....... damn tempting.
At less than $400 it's just a fun option to mess around with in whatever room you need more sound in.
Picked up one for my parents, I would say thank goodness for store reserve and pickup, but no one in my area seems interested in these at all. LOL!!! Great system at $500, incredible and unbelievable at $99 bucks. Even bought a 2-year warranty for $10, just so the gods who bestowed this deal upon me would not smite me. LOL!!
Something like Klipsch the Fives over this any day of the week.
The Fives are EPIC! No question about that!
This would be great in the spare bedroom / kids play room.
Agreed!
Great option for a small room. Next model work on the atmos. Better than tv speaker.
I agree. I believe the second generation will see some improvement in that area. At least that is my hope.
It probably fits the bathroom 😅😂😂
Jokes aside, it's more of a not main system solution, so...I guess a launge or, something
What do you mean, "Jokes aside"? That's exactly where I thought I could use it! 😄
@@robinkleinsteuber5217 😂😂😂😂 it undeniably fits there very well actually, that was the first place that came to my mind. But then I decided to 'upgrade' it to a different area
It would be nice to see cinema furniture reviews starting with what you have.
Not sure if we'll do "cinema" furniture, but furniture is coming...
I got 48 inch LG OLED C1 in my room and want to have this small dolby atmos speaker for the sound.
Well imma give it a shot. I have a condo so my living room isn’t huge and I’m hoping this will work well for me!
I may have to pick this up for the bedroom. Nice review 👍
Hope you enjoy it! Thank you for watching.
Andrew you sneaky guy, was that a jab at Sony @27 seconds into the timeline 😂
My idea. You’re welcome.
@@KristiWright behind every successful audiophile there is a super woman 👩
Good, my only REAL question Is How would GR research improve this?
Buy any way, i actually would like to Buy something like this for my bedroom, sometimes for whatever reason my home can be todo much, eitherbthat ir maybe i just don't want to be interrupted by visitors or something like that. Have a nice weekend guys!
I could see this getting loud in home offices or small apartment bedrooms where the sound has more to reflect off of. If I needed something for say, a hotel room with an ARC/eARC supported TV inside of it (just the bar as the sub might be a bit too large to bring with me😂), this would be my go to.
Oooh never thought of it as a travel companion. That said, the sub while compact is heavy, so plan accordingly.
It’s probably small enough for a carry on?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Maybe the sub could fit in a large size duffel bag or suitcase, but I’d personally leave it and use the bar by itself if that’s doable; but yes, if one were to bring the sub as well then planning accordingly would be necessary.👍
@@KristiWright Possibly, though I don’t know how well a subwoofer would pass through TSA security as a carry-on item.
I think the question is, does this system integrate with other LG sound bars, woofers, speakers and TV's. Samsung and Sony are at that systems integration stage, is LG? Next question is how does it compare to the Sony HT- A9. I understand the HT-A9 costs a lot more but again... If all the LG Sound Bars, Woofers integrated with each other and their TV's the cost of each part adds up so you could then compare the systems... LG has to take that step in order to play in the same sand pit as Samsung and Sony or even Sonos systems.
Andrew u should review the SVS Prime Towers and the PB16 Ultra
Google my name and SVS Prime Towers and you'll find my old written review of those speakers.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thanks! Will definitely view that video ❤️
if this is a decent price in the UK, I'm going to get this for my Mum, who has been listening to the awful sound from her TV.
I bet she'd enjoy it. It's very easy to use.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews That's good - she's not super technical - she lives quite far from me so easy 'remote' setup is a plus! This definitely seems like a step up from just a soundbar too. Thanks for this video and keep up the great work!
The soundbar works in conjunction of the LG tv audio? I've seen other soundbars doing that, don't know if improves anything, just curious.
It does, however we did not have an LG TV to test it with, sorry.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews
I heard that the subwoofer doesn't vibrate the floor as much as others, making it great for apartments. Do you feel that as well?
Thanks
We had no problems there.
🤣 but I need the wind coming out of my speakers🤣 700$ in Canada, it's always the same injustice and now the klh model 5s will be 3750 in February...loved the funny review !
It does sound like this is kind of the sound quality one would want from a TV. I remember the 1990s when TVs actually sounded good (Beovision MX7000 for example). Then flat panels happened. So, ironically, this is the future of TV sound, like Kristi said. But also a reminder of how bad TV sound became with extremely thin TV panels.
Does this fit under the LG C1? I really enjoy it but there is so little room for a soundbar with this tv.
No reason to believe it wouldn't. Tap on the link above in the pinned comment and you should be able to figure out the measurements so you can be certain.
@@KristiWright Okay thanks.
The wife factor plays a huge role with looks and budget. And before someone says it, because I know someone is thinking it: I'm not giving up my wife. She cooks far too many amazing meals, tolerates my nonsense, and is otherwise perfectly reasonable.
I'd love a stereo or 5.1 setup with Sonus Fabers, Magnepans, Klipsch, or powered speakers. But with a wife who *hates* the look of traditional speakers, and even less so some of the new ones like LS50 Metas, I'm limited. And to be honest with myself, ported speakers or the KLH Model 5s would be very difficult to manage in our 10x15 living space anyway. So sound bars are really the best option.
Second consideration: budget. I think I could actually buy the Eclair and not feel awful given some upcoming expenses. (They're big. Trust me.) My preference would be for something strong for music like the Ambeo, but frugality *must* remain a consideration. People who disagree that budget is a serious consideration are welcome to donate to my cause :) And in the scheme of things, as Andrew pointed out in an earlier video, these things don't matter.
So I'd give these a listen.
Great review. Bedroom probably or drag it outdoors for movie night on occasion. But the problem with most sound bars is they're too small. For those who hang their tv and have a console below it like you do why hasn't a company like Kef made a large sound bar with say 3 of their coaxial 5.25" speakers with dual wireless sub and surround speaker connectivity as an option ? 🤔 Maybe I'm crazy but I believe there's a market for a product like that. Sony has a great product (HT A-9) but without dual sub option .... Eeh...
Would you recommend this or the klipsch 600? Because it is a difficult choice without hearing them both.
I think they're both pretty great! If space is tight and you want Atmos support, the LG. If you have a little room for a bigger bar and better sub, the Klipsch Cinema 600 all day.
I think you guys were spot on with the practical usage i.e dorm rooms and limited space. I'm a Sonos guy but I wouldn't mind recommending this based off this video and the fact that it's on sale on Amazon right now for like $390 (that's a good price for a soundbar and sub in today's world).
Can't wait for you to review Sonos. I love their products but I am done buying more due to price and space. Definitely a product for people who have the money and like simplicity + aesthetic and like multi-room audio. Interested in your guys take. Keep up the good work!
It looks good for the bedroom
Great review and great product. Although not a big fan of sound bars as substitute of multiple speakers, this one is "different", not expensive, simple to set up, not needy of too much real estate and pleasing to the eye. Atmos is not the best? So what, there was life before it and for small rooms and/or bedrooms the no Atmos choice for a better overall sound is just fine.
Trust me, there will be a market for this. If I didn't have already a sound solution in my bedroom, a "recycled Onkyo receiver and Klipsch R-51M speakers, I would get it in a heartbeat.
I live in an apartment, with thin walls, not a whole lot of space for a robust setup, and a cat that likes to knock over and stand on everything. I can’t go blasting after 10pm anyway, or else a certain neighbor will make a noise complaint. This is perfect for me until I get a house.
The visual of your cat gave me a chuckle. I think you'd be a good fit for this!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Yeah she loves doing what she knows I don’t want her doing lol!
Any relation to Han Seoul Hui, the CD manipulation magician ?
@@aussierob7177 No, it’s a Han Solo play on words.
@@The_Cold_Slither Thanks for that. I should have known better !
In the car world there is that saying “ no replacement for displacement” but boost is the great equalizer.
Creme filled?
I wish!
QOTD: in my home office / computer desk. There is no good spot on my desk for stereo speakers, especially when you factor in the wall clearance required for good sound. Thank you for insisting that your viewers not only see this as a gadget for others, but actually take time to think about where they would use this. I'm actually considering this as an option now.
QOTD: This would probablygo in my bedroom. I have a traditional home theater system in the living room, but I've been planning to use a soundbar mounted to the wall with my tv in the bedroom to reduce the footprint. My only concern with soundbars is that I had to get silk dome tweeters for my home theater system because I was experiencing ear pain with soft-dome tweeters.