My 15-20 year old Makita finally gave up the ghost. After looking at several reviews I bought the Bosch ROS20VSC from Lowes. Couldnt be more pleased. Its a dust dust collector that doubles as a sander. Less dust in the air or on the workpiece than any other sander Ive ever used. Price is right too.
Thanks for sharing your experience in a passionate way! This is the most invaluable info I got when researching orbital sanders from a dozen videos I watched on the topic! All the best, man, and keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing your actual professional experience in passionate way! Out of a dozen videos I watched on the topic, this had the most invaluable info! Kudos!
While Rigid is designed a little more for the weekend warrior, I've found that the dust collection is pretty decent/efficient. The fact that the dust bag can be removed and the sander is set up to connect to both standard shop vac hose sizes with no adapter is a plus. I wouldn't expect it to last more than a year in a production shop where it gets daily use. Common complaints include the orbital bearings wearing out prematurely (not properly sealed) and there have been reports of them catching fire. This is often when they're used for sanding more abrasive materials like drywall. For heavier use I'd go Makita.
Yeah, like I said, we use our sanders a ton so just gotta take it with a grain of salt. For occasional use, I'm sure most of these would be perfectly fine, but I will say, since the time of the video, our Makita is still holding strong and used almost everyday, as well as the DeWalt which is easily 10 years old now. Thanks for watching!
That extra hand grip on the Makita is for folks like me. I have very loose, floppy fingers and the vibrations make me lose grip strength quickly. I have to constantly change my grip or I'll just have a witchy looking claw hand that can't grasp a thing. Being able to use it palm style, handle style, or with two hands just shot this sander way to the top of my list! Any other hypermobile people out there who have used it? Any feedback?
That's good to know. I still haven't used the extra handle, but I do normally use the trigger lock so I can free move my hand or switch hands. It's still my favorite sander.
Great Video! I have the Bosch and the Makita. I do use both with my Bosch shop vac, so not using the bag and canister for dust collection. The bosch fits the shop vac hose perfectly, However I did needed someone to 3D print me a fitting to connect my Makita to the shop vac hose. Works perfectly and NO dust! Very happy
Yeah, I've seen Matt on Badger Workshop use the Bosch shop vac. Would love to try it one day. Right now we have a Rdgid shop vac hooked up to one of the Home Depot bucket dustopper and it's MEHH.
I have the makita sander and I love it. It was great for sanding house siding, trim, and wooden ceilings. The dust collection bag on it is also the best I've ever seen. The pad extending out to the sides more helps with getting into tight areas. 10/10 it's awesome.
Great question! 99% of woodworkers gravitate to orbital / round sanders because they can sand all the pieces of a project before they are assembled. But for refinishing the furniture; square shaped would NORMALY be better, however, most big box store square sanders have very hard edges that can mar the other sides of the piece, when trying to get into a corner. There are companies that make high end furniture sanders, specifically for getting into tight spots, but those sanders are a little out of our range $$$, so we typically just hand sand any spots we can't reach with the orbital sanders.
Summary ● Best tied for 1st place: Makita, Bosch (best for dust?), Dewal (overall good workhorse), Milwaukee (Wish they actually ranked them...instead they seemed to love them equally). ● Worst: rigid. ● CORDLESS Ryobi: just ok, lots of vibration...needs 2-3 batteries for a med/large project. Suitable for DIYer only.
Awesome! Thanks for the comprehensive review!! Have y'all tried the Hercules 5" ROSander from Harbor Freight? It's also 3amp It looks like it has the same side profile of your Makita but seems to have the same on/off switch of the Milwaukee. It's also 6 speed variable but it's only $60!! Unless you get it on sale which they're always putting stuff on sale. If you have used it, what did you think?
I borrowed that Makita from a guy at work yesterday and it was nice. I have an old Porter Cable but it's too light and hurts my hand after a while. Might have to let go of the money to get the Makita. People seem to love it and it won't break the bank.
Great, great video. Little question for you. You kept saying dust collection systems are small on some sanders. why don't you connect it to vacuum cleaner-like tubes or something similar that are longer and can suck alot more dust? Try that and let us know.
Wow! 20 years! I can't even imagine! When we were doing furniture full time, we really did a number on the sanders, I guess they just don't make them like they use to
seems like the makita also scores big because you can attach a vacuum hose to the dust collector, where the others look like you'd need to 3d print a part to do it....
That’s a good point, to be honest, we do a lot of our work outside, so I typically just use the bag, but I should try them all and see which are the most adaptable to a vacuum system. Thanks for watching!
Haha, Probably not. I'm from New England, here in the states, and my family came over from Scotland many moons ago. I have been to Belgium and it was one of my favorite places, the people are so friendly.
I still love the Makita, it's still going strong. I know Matt at 731 Woodworks gave it a low review, but I think he got a faulty one. Thanks for watching!
Well junk is what you should expect from them given their price and that's what you'll get. Surprisingly though, I've remodeled two houses now with their junky cheap tools. (Not that sander but every other tool.) I'm finally working on collecting better tools now, but those cheap things more than paid for themselves. Surprisingly they still work, I don't know how but they do.
Outstanding video! Right to the point, with no "sponsored by" fluff. A real woodworker giving his professional opinion. What more can you ask for!
Haha, I appreciate that.
My 15-20 year old Makita finally gave up the ghost. After looking at several reviews I bought the Bosch ROS20VSC from Lowes. Couldnt be more pleased. Its a dust dust collector that doubles as a sander. Less dust in the air or on the workpiece than any other sander Ive ever used. Price is right too.
Thanks for the heads up, That's good to know! and thanks for watching!
Just bought this one too, I see it's very old and was released years ago but apparently it's still one of the best!
Thanks for sharing your experience in a passionate way! This is the most invaluable info I got when researching orbital sanders from a dozen videos I watched on the topic! All the best, man, and keep up the good work!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing your actual professional experience in passionate way! Out of a dozen videos I watched on the topic, this had the most invaluable info! Kudos!
I appreciate that! thank you!
While Rigid is designed a little more for the weekend warrior, I've found that the dust collection is pretty decent/efficient. The fact that the dust bag can be removed and the sander is set up to connect to both standard shop vac hose sizes with no adapter is a plus.
I wouldn't expect it to last more than a year in a production shop where it gets daily use. Common complaints include the orbital bearings wearing out prematurely (not properly sealed) and there have been reports of them catching fire. This is often when they're used for sanding more abrasive materials like drywall.
For heavier use I'd go Makita.
Yeah, like I said, we use our sanders a ton so just gotta take it with a grain of salt. For occasional use, I'm sure most of these would be perfectly fine, but I will say, since the time of the video, our Makita is still holding strong and used almost everyday, as well as the DeWalt which is easily 10 years old now.
Thanks for watching!
That extra hand grip on the Makita is for folks like me. I have very loose, floppy fingers and the vibrations make me lose grip strength quickly. I have to constantly change my grip or I'll just have a witchy looking claw hand that can't grasp a thing. Being able to use it palm style, handle style, or with two hands just shot this sander way to the top of my list!
Any other hypermobile people out there who have used it? Any feedback?
That's good to know. I still haven't used the extra handle, but I do normally use the trigger lock so I can free move my hand or switch hands. It's still my favorite sander.
thanks, love that you actually have experience with the tools instead of just reading amazon reviews
Thanks! Yeah, I'm only going to review what I actually use in my shop, makes sense. Thanks for watching!
Great Video! I have the Bosch and the Makita. I do use both with my Bosch shop vac, so not using the bag and canister for dust collection. The bosch fits the shop vac hose perfectly, However I did needed someone to 3D print me a fitting to connect my Makita to the shop vac hose. Works perfectly and NO dust! Very happy
Yeah, I've seen Matt on Badger Workshop use the Bosch shop vac. Would love to try it one day. Right now we have a Rdgid shop vac hooked up to one of the Home Depot bucket dustopper and it's MEHH.
I have the makita sander and I love it. It was great for sanding house siding, trim, and wooden ceilings. The dust collection bag on it is also the best I've ever seen. The pad extending out to the sides more helps with getting into tight areas. 10/10 it's awesome.
Yep 100% agree, it’s still my go to.
Are you not better off with a square/triangle base for woodworking than a round base? So you can get into corners?
Great question! 99% of woodworkers gravitate to orbital / round sanders because they can sand all the pieces of a project before they are assembled. But for refinishing the furniture; square shaped would NORMALY be better, however, most big box store square sanders have very hard edges that can mar the other sides of the piece, when trying to get into a corner. There are companies that make high end furniture sanders, specifically for getting into tight spots, but those sanders are a little out of our range $$$, so we typically just hand sand any spots we can't reach with the orbital sanders.
Summary
● Best tied for 1st place:
Makita, Bosch (best for dust?), Dewal (overall good workhorse), Milwaukee
(Wish they actually ranked them...instead they seemed to love them equally).
● Worst: rigid.
● CORDLESS Ryobi: just ok, lots of vibration...needs 2-3 batteries for a med/large project. Suitable for DIYer only.
Ranking would have been a really good idea! Wish that had come to mind when I was putting together this video. I'll remember that or the next time.
Awesome! Thanks for the comprehensive review!!
Have y'all tried the Hercules 5" ROSander from Harbor Freight? It's also 3amp
It looks like it has the same side profile of your Makita but seems to have the same on/off switch of the Milwaukee.
It's also 6 speed variable but it's only $60!! Unless you get it on sale which they're always putting stuff on sale.
If you have used it, what did you think?
Thanks for the idea, I'll have to check it out.
Solid review! thank you!
Thanks for watching!
I borrowed that Makita from a guy at work yesterday and it was nice. I have an old Porter Cable but it's too light and hurts my hand after a while. Might have to let go of the money to get the Makita. People seem to love it and it won't break the bank.
Still my go to as of right now.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks! Indeed very useful.
Glad it was helpful!
great video, seems like i'm going to get the makita.
It’s still my favorite!
Great, great video. Little question for you. You kept saying dust collection systems are small on some sanders. why don't you connect it to vacuum cleaner-like tubes or something similar that are longer and can suck alot more dust? Try that and let us know.
I have a 20+ year old Porter Cable sander that’s been a workhorse. They don’t build them like it anymore
Wow! 20 years! I can't even imagine! When we were doing furniture full time, we really did a number on the sanders, I guess they just don't make them like they use to
seems like the makita also scores big because you can attach a vacuum hose to the dust collector, where the others look like you'd need to 3d print a part to do it....
That’s a good point, to be honest, we do a lot of our work outside, so I typically just use the bag, but I should try them all and see which are the most adaptable to a vacuum system. Thanks for watching!
Hello from Belgium ! Do I hear a Cape Breton Island accent there bye ? lol
Haha, Probably not. I'm from New England, here in the states, and my family came over from Scotland many moons ago. I have been to Belgium and it was one of my favorite places, the people are so friendly.
Sure you can hear my thoughts :)
no craftman ?
Sorry, no, I only went with what I've purchased and used in the shop. I tend to gravitate towards Home Depot and they don't carry Craftsman.
All those are toys. GET 75-150 Pro Turbo or Gex 150 Pro Turbo!
PSHT! You're talkin' big boy toys there, I'm still workin' with a minor league budget. Someday I'll get there though. Thanks for watching!
@@boydstongrove get there sooner you will have increased productivity around 5 times :)
Rigid is garbage. Mine went out at 1 year and I’m not about buy the same broken toy again. I’ll cut my losses and go in another direction
I still love the Makita, it's still going strong. I know Matt at 731 Woodworks gave it a low review, but I think he got a faulty one. Thanks for watching!
I’m Team Ryobi, but that orbital sander is an atrocity. Your shop is better off without it.
I used Ryobi for YEARS and the sanders were my least favorite tools of their line. But everything else has always worked great.
My God dont ever buy the Black.n Decker palm sander . . . Junk!😅
Yeah, we got it for the shape of the sanding head, to get into tight spots but honestly, we hardly every use it.
Well junk is what you should expect from them given their price and that's what you'll get. Surprisingly though, I've remodeled two houses now with their junky cheap tools. (Not that sander but every other tool.)
I'm finally working on collecting better tools now, but those cheap things more than paid for themselves. Surprisingly they still work, I don't know how but they do.
great reviews, I appreciate it
Thanks for watching!