Pro Stock: The Early Years

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  • Pro Stock: The Early Years
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  • @outsidethebox8950
    @outsidethebox8950 5 месяцев назад +29

    I cannot tell you how much your videos mean to me. Being nearly 70, I was there for so much of this…. Thank you very much. It was pure and raw then.

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 5 месяцев назад

      The 990 class

    • @zxtenn
      @zxtenn 5 месяцев назад +1

      68 here, i used to go to NY national speedway on Long Island in the early 70's and then the track in Epping NH, 2 bucks to race on Wednesday night called 'grudge night'

    • @charliechristie2949
      @charliechristie2949 4 месяца назад

      @@dennisholst4322 As a base car, yes

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 4 месяца назад

      Don't try to excellerate your own being. Jenkins has.

    • @charliechristie2949
      @charliechristie2949 4 месяца назад

      @@dennisholst4322 He who benefitted GREATLY by the large reduction in pounds per cubic inch advantage.....

  • @biscuitboy3617
    @biscuitboy3617 5 месяцев назад +4

    Love the early years of Pro Stock because they were more 'stock' than full race setups.
    Al Joniac's 72 Maverick with 429/4 speed running a 9.36 @ 146 MPH was blistering fast for the 1970-1972 era!

  • @joequillun7790
    @joequillun7790 5 месяцев назад +4

    Back when there was actually some "stock", in Pro Stock. Sorta like NASCAR, when "Stock" cars use-ta be stock. (Kinda)

  • @charliechristie2949
    @charliechristie2949 5 месяцев назад +4

    The first few years were great until NHRA decided to remove weight from the less competitive makes (don't want to ignite a war, we know who needed a weight advantage, don't we ?). As Pro Stock went on and the rules became more lax, the whole class changed into Funny cars with Carbs and gasoline with one door that opens. Sad, very sad. I loved Pro Stock and my friends Ronnie Sox and Jake King. God love them all ! !

  • @454ho
    @454ho 5 месяцев назад +22

    Real Pro Stock! The way it should be. Great video

    • @themopar426
      @themopar426 5 месяцев назад

      now camaro stock!

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 5 месяцев назад

      No computer just excitement

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 5 месяцев назад

      Those had to be hard to handle

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 5 месяцев назад

      They wond the piss out them

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 5 месяцев назад

      @@dennisholst4322- Especially these first years before they all went full tube chassis. The cars were basically SS and Comp cars on steroids. To see these early PS cars running slapper bars on leaf springs is kinda mind boggling.

  • @njseashorechas2698
    @njseashorechas2698 5 месяцев назад +3

    Those were the glory days and some magical times! All the entry's into the class is blowing my mind! Long before NHRA turned Prostock into a 16 car GM bubble car clone class!

  • @coyboybc
    @coyboybc 5 месяцев назад +7

    Love the old school pro stock drag cars! Wish they were still that way ! 😊

  • @johndehaven8694
    @johndehaven8694 5 месяцев назад +8

    I know Ed Miller. Him and my dad were really good friends. My dad passed away a few years ago but I still keep in contact with Ed

    • @kevinrussell5099
      @kevinrussell5099 5 месяцев назад +3

      Ed was a friend of my dad also. In the early 60's Ed was running a 36 Pontiac with a 370 Pontiac engine. My dad was running a Pontiac in one of the lower stock classes and was one of the top 2 cars in its class, nationwide. In '62 we took it to the U.S. Nationals and Ed and his first wife went with us to help out. Fun memories!

    • @johndehaven8694
      @johndehaven8694 5 месяцев назад

      @@kevinrussell5099 I remember Ed calling my dad asking if we'd help him load up a bunch of stuff he bought. He bought all these old driving simulators from a high school. Me and dad thought he was crazy until he explained that the seats and steering wheels were the same ones they used in the Hurst cudas and darts

    • @biggierat6246
      @biggierat6246 5 месяцев назад +1

      I went to high school with a guy who bought Ed's 65 hemi, he only paid $2600 for it. Can't help but shake my head over that.

    • @kevinrussell5099
      @kevinrussell5099 5 месяцев назад

      @@biggierat6246 Chassis only, without the engine and transmission, right? That was the car he won the S/S World Championship with in '67 and was worth a fortune! Chrysler provided the Cuda for him in '68 but it's hard to imagine him letting it go for anything like that. That same car sold at auction a couple of years ago for big money.

  • @roadking99jokerst60
    @roadking99jokerst60 5 месяцев назад +3

    When folks could identify with the cars and racers. I heard Bill Jenkins swear under his breath changing his own tires between rounds in Omaha. The time of our lives was seeing these guys.OK, and Judy Lilly racing at Thunder Valley in SS/AA.

  • @brianreynoldson1965
    @brianreynoldson1965 5 месяцев назад +4

    I agree! Today's Professoinal class of NHRA-legal Pro Stock is a complete snooze-fest. Nothing against Erica Enders, but as the late Bill Jenkins was quoted saying with the advent of the Lenco planetary transmission in NHRA-legal Pro Stock in the day. "Even a monkey could drive a Pro Stock". Bill was right, hopefully the new NHRA Factory Experimental can replace the current "snooze-fest" known as Pro Stock

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 5 месяцев назад +3

    Do you know why the Chevy guys used either 427’s or 327’s? Because they revved higher than the 396 and 454, and the 350.. most of the 327/331’s were 65-67 small journal 327’s that’ll rev to 9000 rpm all day long

  • @Petequinn741
    @Petequinn741 5 месяцев назад +2

    Creativity years .when everyone was Chevy vs Ford vs AMC vs dodge. Glory days

  • @charliechristie2949
    @charliechristie2949 5 месяцев назад +4

    THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. In 1970 when Pro Stock started, I was 17. Watching your video going from car to car, brought back SO MANY memories. I was a huge Sox and Martin fan back then, but loved watching them all.

  • @markweber7275
    @markweber7275 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great video. Wish the rules would not have changed into what it has evolved into. Once big money gets in the act the home grown teams disappeared, those were fun times. Think this what the stands are thinly populated. Keep the videos coming.

  • @thomaslongshore1295
    @thomaslongshore1295 5 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't watched pro stock in years. What a trip down memory lane, when one recognizes many of the names and cars.

  • @ButchBurton-sg8pj
    @ButchBurton-sg8pj 5 месяцев назад +4

    I luv them old drag cars..my neighbors dad raced a old dodge dart at Lyons drag strip long time ago..thanks for showing them old drag cars..sonny Miller was my neighbors dad..hes a hot rodder build...used to be in his younger days..thanks for the videos!!

    • @markwilliams5606
      @markwilliams5606 5 месяцев назад

      Woodward Avenue Detroit. 1970. Ran a 69 Road Runner. Good memories. Found a 68 Chevelle SS. There still out there.🇺🇸🏁

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 5 месяцев назад

      Rear end housing twisted. WOW

  • @williamwagaman9538
    @williamwagaman9538 5 месяцев назад +14

    This is when pro stock was real.Not the bullshit that They run today

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 5 месяцев назад +2

    Arnie Beswick is also a local legend who is still at Cordova regularly

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 5 месяцев назад +1

      "The Goat" A legend in his own time.

    • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
      @IowaBudgetRCBashers 5 месяцев назад

      @@joequillun7790 92 years old and still works on his own car, and always has time for his fans. He may not drive anymore but he’s still a larger than life figure at the track

  • @markwilliams5606
    @markwilliams5606 5 месяцев назад +2

    Used to Dig bracelet racing. Detroit Dragway. Remember Jungle Jim 🇺🇸🏁

    • @artmchugh5644
      @artmchugh5644 5 месяцев назад

      " SIBLEY AT DIX " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 been there!!!!😊😊😊😊

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 5 месяцев назад +4

    Bill Grumpy Jenkins created pro stock with his grumpys toy. Without the grump there would be no pro stock.

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 5 месяцев назад

      Hold to something if you are riding with Jenkins

    • @chadkent1241
      @chadkent1241 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, the weight breaks given to the GMs were tantamount in his success.

    • @dennisholst4322
      @dennisholst4322 2 месяца назад

      Bob talked about that

  • @butziporsche8646
    @butziporsche8646 5 месяцев назад +2

    Back in 75' a buddy of mine were at a stop light in Central Point Oregon when a dude, his wife, and 2 kids pulled up next to us in a Gremlin X. We were in his 67' Mustang Coupe w/ 289 4bbl. The dude in the Gremlin started revving his engine and my buddy said we'll beat it and I said; "hey, don't, it's a Gremlin X and he wasn't impressed. He got a good launch and hole shot the Gremlin and then it blew our doors off.

  • @leonardfoster6252
    @leonardfoster6252 5 месяцев назад +2

    The cars and engines have come along ways and the tires on the compound... They just make so much hp compared to back then. I run a 66 SS Chevelle, 468 cu.in. single carb on race gas and runs 8.80's et. 1/4 mile, powerglide trans w/trans. brake, 1/8th 5.40's at 126 mph. 1/4 mile mph is 155...

  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 5 месяцев назад +1

    First time I saw Pro Stocks live was around 1971-72. And the first car I watched was the Grump who was doing a match race (don’t recall who he raced). To see NA door cars that fast was mind boggling.

  • @biggierat6246
    @biggierat6246 5 месяцев назад +5

    Great Job. Thanks so much for my youthful memories! Age 73

  • @halseyknox
    @halseyknox 5 месяцев назад +6

    The SOHC (also pronounced "Sock" ford engines were also refered to as "Cammer's.....cool vid. when the professional classes of drag racing such as Pro Stock was a common man's sport not at all like it is today

  • @leftyoverton4347
    @leftyoverton4347 3 месяца назад

    Money Money Money!!!! That’s what happened to PRO Stock racing, as well as the rest of drag racing. Back day the cars would come into the racing facility on open trailers usually towed by pickup trucks. Those days are long gone.
    Class racing became the “How fast can you afford to go” racing! Years ago I found out my pockets weren’t nearly deep enough to race with a bunch of rich boys. That’s why at 70 years old I’m still having fun bracket racing.

  • @JariVasarainen
    @JariVasarainen 5 месяцев назад +4

    Perfect video through history. No bullshit, no music, just facts. Love it!

  • @BennyBallbreaker
    @BennyBallbreaker 5 месяцев назад +1

    That’s crazy someone used to run a Hemi Dart from here in Norton, Mass. There’s a few fellers in town that have street machines, but I’ve never seen anything as serious as an LO23 Dart in any garages..

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 5 месяцев назад +2

      Brockton here. Loved NEDragway mid 70s. Great times. (Back when it was IHRA)

  • @scrambler69-xk3kv
    @scrambler69-xk3kv 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yes the fact that all four manufactures were involved made it wonderful unlike today with nothing but Camaros. Even the brothers not sure how to spell their last name Quadry I think but they are Latino, and they run what looks like Mustangs, but underneath are actually Camaro's and of course they are Chevy powered. I was really excited that they were running as good as they were until I heard the announcer recently say they were in reality Chevrolets. Such a shame.

  • @ButchBurton-sg8pj
    @ButchBurton-sg8pj 5 месяцев назад +2

    You all showed a gremlin..thats cool cause i had a gremlin when i was younger and it had a factory v-8 .i think a 304..it was cool but not a drag car..thanks for the videos.

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lee smith is a local drag racing legend. Sadly he passed a few years ago

  • @chadkent1241
    @chadkent1241 2 месяца назад

    The 351C was the most handicapped engine in PS racing history and was the engine that pushed the sanctioning body to go to the 500 in³ rule.
    Then after a few years of development, Bob's BOSS 429s gave him 5 championships in a row and opened the door for GM to introduce the DRCE and that was the end of actual Pro STOCK racing.

  • @larrytucker2938
    @larrytucker2938 5 месяцев назад +1

    Man, I watched a lot of those cars run. I used to stop by Grumpy's shop and learn as much as I could. Great presentation.

  • @scrambler69-xk3kv
    @scrambler69-xk3kv 5 месяцев назад +1

    AMC latter found out that the Hornet hooked better and ran faster times then the Gremlin. Wally Booth, Maskin Kanners, and Shirly Shahan, ran very well with their AMC's, they were indeed compeative in the class.

  • @UberLummox
    @UberLummox 5 месяцев назад +2

    YEP. After '71 or 2 who cares! Great video.

  • @paulmurawski3683
    @paulmurawski3683 4 месяца назад +1

    Old skool rules. So neat see these Rides thank you much

  • @humblegeorge
    @humblegeorge 5 месяцев назад +3

    Growing up in Syracuse New York the MIMI was a car I saw many times at a gas station not far from my Home. Thanks for this amazing video :>)

  • @tonyt8805
    @tonyt8805 5 месяцев назад +1

    Memories.....👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

  • @regsmith7604
    @regsmith7604 5 месяцев назад +6

    I only have two words for you👉🏽Bob Glidden

    • @chadkent1241
      @chadkent1241 2 месяца назад

      The real goat of real pro STOCK

  • @francoamerican4632
    @francoamerican4632 5 месяцев назад +2

    You should do a "where are these cars now" video.

  • @jameskirchner2655
    @jameskirchner2655 5 месяцев назад +1

    Remember seeing SOX+MARTIN AND HERB McCANDLES

  • @drobson8004
    @drobson8004 5 месяцев назад +1

    The early cars running hemi's were substantially quicker.

  • @TJRatfink
    @TJRatfink 5 месяцев назад +3

    great stuff! I've long been a fan of Super and Pro Stock cars.

  • @diazfernandezantonio
    @diazfernandezantonio 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you sir. Straight to the point! History lesson here.

  • @THROTTLEPOWER
    @THROTTLEPOWER 5 месяцев назад +4

    Enjoyed!!! 🤜🤛

  • @jackperry9369
    @jackperry9369 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ole akron arlen vanke was my uncles sidekick thanks for the sweeeeet content 😅

  • @tiagoagustin1615
    @tiagoagustin1615 5 месяцев назад +4

    Good videos Paradise, keep it up I like all your videos

  • @ivanrousseau5066
    @ivanrousseau5066 5 месяцев назад +1

    Early pro stocks were outlaw super stocks with tunnel rams.they use to run match races after class super stocks ran. Many believe as I do that pro stock and mod eliminater should have switched names. The pro stocks should have keep steel body panels and tunnel ram .And the modified eliminater should of had the tube frame chassis.

  • @jkng4606
    @jkng4606 5 месяцев назад +1

    351c based engines were in the top 3 along with jenkins small block vega

  • @nwmetalbug
    @nwmetalbug 5 месяцев назад +1

    My boss bought the Yuill brothers Vega when I worked in Alaska in !975. Think our index was 9:35 at the time. Was great time to be in racing.

  • @joepepi7394
    @joepepi7394 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wonderful videos,keep them coming please!

  • @hondaben78
    @hondaben78 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great job, awesome pics and info!

  • @Ls6racer
    @Ls6racer 5 месяцев назад +1

    good show thanks!

  • @jwhite601
    @jwhite601 3 месяца назад

    Glidden/Allen Pinto smoked them all...changed the game.

  • @badgerbait8351
    @badgerbait8351 5 месяцев назад +1

    That was fun! Was surprised that no one was running 454s or 350s in the chev camps?!

  • @anthonytripp2251
    @anthonytripp2251 5 месяцев назад +2

    What a great video. Outstanding research.

  • @tomsweeten9106
    @tomsweeten9106 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, thank you

  • @73turbopinto
    @73turbopinto 5 месяцев назад +1

    Some PID/Pittsburgh connection.

  • @kennethpaladino4948
    @kennethpaladino4948 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ed Sharkman’s 69 cougar is a 1970 Cougar! Blooper! 😳🙄🤫

  • @timrayburn2461
    @timrayburn2461 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video and work....thank you

  • @scooterdoughmas3012
    @scooterdoughmas3012 5 месяцев назад +1

    dou lovin dis chit keep pumpin em out 😁🤩scooter d😎ps thx 4 the inspiration😅😋

  • @racerd9669
    @racerd9669 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why no pics of John Hagen P/S Hemi Cuda? .

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn 5 месяцев назад +1

    The little mouse 327 was faster or as fast as a 427 or HEMI then

  • @klausvonschmit4722
    @klausvonschmit4722 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! However, it makes me feel really old!! Bwhahahaha

  • @James-ik8yz
    @James-ik8yz 5 месяцев назад +1

    4/1/70 Gremlin came out ! April Fools day 😮

  • @alanwood5857
    @alanwood5857 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lots of Hemi 4 speeds!

  • @kurtpoblenz2741
    @kurtpoblenz2741 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hemis DOMINATED the first 2 years of pro stock. After the NHRA changed the rules in 72 , penalizing the mopars , & giving Chevy a weight break, they forever ruined the class.

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 5 месяцев назад +1

      Just like in NASCAR, when the Hemis had-ta run restrictors.

  • @BrokenPortriats
    @BrokenPortriats 21 день назад

    ok yes but your vid is the best....!!

  • @ronmerkle3696
    @ronmerkle3696 5 месяцев назад +1

    4:23

  • @dkreb1
    @dkreb1 5 месяцев назад

    Bob Ingles, Charlie Castaldo,

  • @hilleryclifford1350
    @hilleryclifford1350 5 месяцев назад +1

    Grumpy Jenkins won the first pro stock championship bro, not Sox and Martin.

    • @troubleinparadise-t7q
      @troubleinparadise-t7q  5 месяцев назад

      NHRA started Pro Stock in 1970 with Ronnie Sox winning the first title, then Mike Fons in 1971, then Bill Jenkins in 1972. NHRA's website has the full list from 1970-2023 in their "Season's Champions" section.

  • @shimshonbendan8730
    @shimshonbendan8730 5 месяцев назад

    Correction: There were NO 1970 Camaros made. They were all 1970 1/2. I bought a new '70 1/2 in 1970 as did my parents. Please note this for future videos.

  • @misterhipster9509
    @misterhipster9509 5 месяцев назад

    As in all things, development will happen, go big or get out, just the way it is. Anything less is socialism, for that there's bracket racing. I'm 76, was there too. News flash: Detroit doesn't make Hemi's and Rat Motors anymore, or 4 speeds.

    • @ixlr8677
      @ixlr8677 5 месяцев назад

      like the way you could buy a muscle car for a couple hundred bucks in the early 70s. now 70 thousand bucks. go big or.....

    • @misterhipster9509
      @misterhipster9509 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ixlr8677 Tell me about it. Early in 1971 Chevy dealer advertised a 69 Impala/427/425/4speed. Had no miles, $1500, I could not get insurance. Settled for a 69 SS 396/325 Chevelle stripper that my wife liked for $1800. Still have the Chevelle, it's a full chassis mostly glass bracket car now of course.

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 5 месяцев назад

      Bracket racing sucks. Class racing was where the talent was...if you had any. (Until cubic $ took over). But yeah, Mopar still makes Hemis, even tho they're smaller, and computer controlled. And I miss 4 speeds.

    • @misterhipster9509
      @misterhipster9509 5 месяцев назад

      Why look, a caveman came out from under it's rock to babble about how class racers have talent and shit.@@joequillun7790

  • @races5675
    @races5675 5 месяцев назад

    Sounds like old bob had about a 150 shot

  • @stevemayo1175
    @stevemayo1175 5 месяцев назад

    New Sub here Great Video