As a prospector for 60 years on all sorts of minerals and gemstones and an electronics engineer for 50 years who was in a communications research centre building pi detectors before bruce candy ever thought of one, admittedly though not to find gold, in my opinion you are spot on.. Filters are meant to balance productivity against sensitivity. Signals will change depending on where you are, the depth and shape of target, temperature, atmospherics and soil conductivity. The aim is to gain the maximum depth for the conditions without the received signal masking the desired targets. As for productivity, it depends who you are, If you have unlimited time and want to dig every signal fine, if you have limited time or depend on a return on investment use your filters. you will lose less targets properly using your filters than you will by saturating the ground without filters. Imo.
Thank you..I'm just starting out with a 4000..the conflicting advice I've been given is amazing..you are the first I've found to explain this simply and clearly.
Great Vid, agree 100% some settings peeps run makes me scratch my head. I had a mate who recently bought a 6000 from a Minelab dealer in Perth and he was told to use the DD coil in Normal on /Max sensitivity. He was also told to spend up to 2 minutes ground balancing the detector before swinging. Well after digging more the 10 false targets he was ready to wrap the detector around a tree. When he told me the story I was amazed that a dealer would tell him this’d as this is doing a disservice to Minelab. I got him to put the 11 coil on set it in difficult and start with a sensitivity of 4-5. Well he was amazed no false targets and he actually found gold. I told him to go back to the dealer and ask him to explain the advise he was given.
Good advice Tony, even got quite cold up in the Pilbara after around 80mm rain a few weeks back and the 30 / 40 knot winds made detecting a real chalange. Cheers.
Fair call , was given really dodgy advice when starting out by people who just didnt want anybody else to do well. few years later came across a guy whose detector settings had been changed by somebody helping .......... him. he brought his detector to me and even tho my knowledge is limited, put it mainly to factory preset. 3 days later he was back at my camp with ice water n a jar with nice gold chunks. took me for a drive n showed me good areas to try, where i did well, n stopped by frequently after that. best gold trip for me yet. found a friend and gold, how good can it get. Noel
Couldn't agree more Tony, I remember when I first got my 4500 and was running in factory settings in Enhanced, I always felt I was missing out because I didn't run the settings hotter, after a good 12 months of running the 4500 with hot settings and feeling fatigued I started taming those setting back again, the fatigue wasn't near as bad and I actually found more gold because I could hear the subtle targets better. Now with the 6000 it's mostly in Difficult and sensitivity of around 2-4 and doing really well here in Vic. It's hard to convince new people that less is more.
Thanks Tony for your advise one day I maybe able to afford a 6000 but until then I am going to keep using my fisher gold bug2 here in New Zealand but things are really tight here in this country for prospecting I would love to spend sometime over at your place in the near future regards keith
Hi Keith....yep...8k is a lot for a machine unless your using it all the time. Nothing wrong with the gold bug either...it's all about getting used to whatever machine it is you have.
Hi mate I reckon you’re right on most things I’ve use normal on patches once I’ve been over it and it’s surprising what ya get I’m wondering what are the auto modes what level is the machine running at why have the auto modes not sure 🤔 the 6 is a great machine
You are dead right Tony. We too have very mineralised ground around our goldfields at Clermont. Difficult 4 is pretty much standard however I will often try flat out particularly on cool mornings, sometimes good, sometimes not. We’re hoping to do a lap this year and am keen to get onto one of your tours if all goes to plan. Does your website list everything we need to have in place prior to heading over your way?
G'day Neil, It should have most things......have a look through and if you have any questions just shoot us an email or give us a phone call. Things are getting booked up....if you know the dates I would suggest you get your booking form in.
I run my 7000 as follows: High yield...difficult...audio smoothing high....ground smoothing locate patch...sensitivity around 13 and it purrs like a kitten. Let me know how you go.
@@goldtalkleonora6881 Hi Tony I still haven’t had the pleasure or the chance to catch up with you personally but planing on it around April early May. There seems to be only a few of “us” running Audio Smoothing on “ High” 👍 👏👏 Anyway, wishing you a happy healthy and successful 2023 🥳 Cheers Jim 🤠 Prior lease holder in Redcastle 😉
@@goldtalkleonora6881 I’m not sure since I have not been prospecting for over 3 years but I was wondering about factory resetting. What is smooth settings?
@@trevorbayfield4731 Hi Trevor, can you download an instruction manual from the Minelab website??? That will give you all the info you need mate....if your having trouble...send me an email and I can sort for you no probs. Smooth timings was the setting that made the 4000 such a good machine. cheers tony
Great advice Tony. Colder than a whores heart lol… Have you come across many 6000s that have bad coils? There’s a lot of chatter online regarding noisy 11” coils faulty out of the box.
whores heart...its a good one hey....a heavy diesel fitter that I was working with was saying that about oil seals...."it's harder than a whores heart mate'....classic.
@@goldtalkleonora6881 I live in Kalgoorlie for two years most of that time was spent at the Foundry pub,I liked it that much I leased a house next door to that pub,it was like the wild west,
As a prospector for 60 years on all sorts of minerals and gemstones and an electronics engineer for 50 years who was in a communications research centre building pi detectors before bruce candy ever thought of one, admittedly though not to find gold, in my opinion you are spot on.. Filters are meant to balance productivity against sensitivity. Signals will change depending on where you are, the depth and shape of target, temperature, atmospherics and soil conductivity. The aim is to gain the maximum depth for the conditions without the received signal masking the desired targets. As for productivity, it depends who you are, If you have unlimited time and want to dig every signal fine, if you have limited time or depend on a return on investment use your filters. you will lose less targets properly using your filters than you will by saturating the ground without filters. Imo.
Thank you..I'm just starting out with a 4000..the conflicting advice I've been given is amazing..you are the first I've found to explain this simply and clearly.
thank you for the feedback...good luck
Great Vid, agree 100% some settings peeps run makes me scratch my head. I had a mate who recently bought a 6000 from a Minelab dealer in Perth and he was told to use the DD coil in Normal on /Max sensitivity. He was also told to spend up to 2 minutes ground balancing the detector before swinging. Well after digging more the 10 false targets he was ready to wrap the detector around a tree. When he told me the story I was amazed that a dealer would tell him this’d as this is doing a disservice to Minelab. I got him to put the 11 coil on set it in difficult and start with a sensitivity of 4-5. Well he was amazed no false targets and he actually found gold. I told him to go back to the dealer and ask him to explain the advise he was given.
spot on....we have been running into people that have had the same advice from the same dealers...hence the vid! Appreciate your comments.
I love that line (abridged), "Run it at Grandpa settings, low sensitivity, tame settings, quiet, but use the Extra settings on a Patch".
Good advice, as always, Tony. Someone once told me that quite a lot of gold has been found with detectors running 'factory default settings'.
Good advice. I run my 4500 with the settings you advised me to use, and that payed for my last trip.
Good advice Tony, even got quite cold up in the Pilbara after around 80mm rain a few weeks back and the 30 / 40 knot winds made detecting a real chalange. Cheers.
thats why sat TV was invented Peter.
Another fantastic video on information rarely shared. Well done
Fair call , was given really dodgy advice when starting out by people who just didnt want anybody else to do well. few years later came across a guy whose detector settings had been changed by somebody helping .......... him. he brought his detector to me and even tho my knowledge is limited, put it mainly to factory preset. 3 days later he was back at my camp with ice water n a jar with nice gold chunks. took me for a drive n showed me good areas to try, where i did well, n stopped by frequently after that. best gold trip for me yet. found a friend and gold, how good can it get. Noel
thats it Noel...good people and some gold...how good is that! The other floggas are just oxygen thieves.
Couldn't agree more Tony, I remember when I first got my 4500 and was running in factory settings in Enhanced, I always felt I was missing out because I didn't run the settings hotter, after a good 12 months of running the 4500 with hot settings and feeling fatigued I started taming those setting back again, the fatigue wasn't near as bad and I actually found more gold because I could hear the subtle targets better. Now with the 6000 it's mostly in Difficult and sensitivity of around 2-4 and doing really well here in Vic. It's hard to convince new people that less is more.
yep....'less is more'...I like that.
Another well explained topic Tony. I agree with every thing you said. Keep up the good work mate.
BradShell xxx
Thanks for the update 👍⛏️
Thanks Tony for your advise one day I maybe able to afford a 6000 but until then I am going to keep using my fisher gold bug2 here in New Zealand but things are really tight here in this country for prospecting
I would love to spend sometime over at your place in the near future regards keith
Hi Keith....yep...8k is a lot for a machine unless your using it all the time. Nothing wrong with the gold bug either...it's all about getting used to whatever machine it is you have.
Thanks for the information as always 👍
Well said Tony 👍
Hi mate I reckon you’re right on most things I’ve use normal on patches once I’ve been over it and it’s surprising what ya get I’m wondering what are the auto modes what level is the machine running at why have the auto modes not sure 🤔 the 6 is a great machine
Thanks mate,,great information..
You are dead right Tony. We too have very mineralised ground around our goldfields at Clermont. Difficult 4 is pretty much standard however I will often try flat out particularly on cool mornings, sometimes good, sometimes not. We’re hoping to do a lap this year and am keen to get onto one of your tours if all goes to plan. Does your website list everything we need to have in place prior to heading over your way?
G'day Neil, It should have most things......have a look through and if you have any questions just shoot us an email or give us a phone call. Things are getting booked up....if you know the dates I would suggest you get your booking form in.
Well said Tony
Good on you thanks
yeah, I am a novice and have been struggling with the settings with the 7000. Found it very hard to get a stable setting.
I run my 7000 as follows: High yield...difficult...audio smoothing high....ground smoothing locate patch...sensitivity around 13 and it purrs like a kitten. Let me know how you go.
@@goldtalkleonora6881 Hi Tony
I still haven’t had the pleasure or the chance to catch up with you personally but planing on it around April early May.
There seems to be only a few of “us” running Audio Smoothing on “ High” 👍
👏👏
Anyway, wishing you a happy healthy and successful 2023 🥳
Cheers Jim 🤠
Prior lease holder in Redcastle 😉
Hi Tony that was some great info and can I ask what would be good setings for a 5000 as I am running the 12' evolution coil in fine gold. Cheers
easy Graeme....special fine....audio on quiet....rx gain around 10..stabilizer 8-9.
Thank you I will let you know how I go as we are in cue for a while.
Great info, any advise for the SDC please.
Advice about what exactly?
@@goldtalkleonora6881 getting the settings right. What settings would you recommend?
Easy peasy with the sdc JayMac.....run it at 3-4....turn on and detect!!
I agree with most of it but there is no substitute for experence, everything is simple whehen you know how👍
Of course Ray...and you have plenty of experience...regards Tony
Any advice (settings) for the good old 4000??
what are you running in at the moment trevor? I used to just run factory and with 'smooth timings' on.
@@goldtalkleonora6881 I’m not sure since I have not been prospecting for over 3 years but I was wondering about factory resetting. What is smooth settings?
@@trevorbayfield4731 Hi Trevor, can you download an instruction manual from the Minelab website??? That will give you all the info you need mate....if your having trouble...send me an email and I can sort for you no probs. Smooth timings was the setting that made the 4000 such a good machine. cheers tony
@@goldtalkleonora6881 thank you for your help. Will download the info from Minelab. Been a great help. Happy prospecting.
Great advice Tony. Colder than a whores heart lol… Have you come across many 6000s that have bad coils? There’s a lot of chatter online regarding noisy 11” coils faulty out of the box.
Hi Scott...nope...haven't heard of that one????
The shops where you buy from don’t no sweet f all there just read some thing some where they haven’t spent time on ground
100 % 👍
We say in Victoria colder than a witches tit,so when you said colder than a horse hart at Leonora,that cracked he up
whores heart...its a good one hey....a heavy diesel fitter that I was working with was saying that about oil seals...."it's harder than a whores heart mate'....classic.
@@goldtalkleonora6881 I live in Kalgoorlie for two years most of that time was spent at the Foundry pub,I liked it that much I leased a house next door to that pub,it was like the wild west,
Can't wait to get out amongst the flies