The Fall of Inversions

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  • Опубликовано: 7 мар 2021
  • When talking about coasters most people talk almost exclusively about airtime. However, that's not how it's always been. Inversions used to be all the craze. When they were first introduced they were everywhere and everyone loved them. But slowly as time went on people enjoyed them less and less so today I talk about the fall from grace of inversions.
    Big Thanks to these channels for the footage:
    Busch Gardens Tampa Bay
    ElToroRyan
    Hershey Park
    SeaWorld Orlando, Aquatica & Discovery Cove
    Cedar Point
    Busch Gardens Williamsburg and Water Country USA
    Energylandia
    Airtime Thrills
    Carowinds
    Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
    Knott's Berry Farm
    Alton Towers
    X Coaster
    Intamin Amusement Rides
    Worlds Of Fun
    Canada's Wonderland
    Six Flags Discovery Kingdom
    Luna Park Sydney
    Universal Orlando Resort
    Six Flags Fiesta Texas
    Six Flags Magic Mountain
    Six Flags Over Texas
    Silver Dollar City Attractions
    Six Flags America
    Coaster Thrills
    Kings Island
    Six Flags St. Louis
    Six Flags Great Adventure
    World of Parks TV
    Mack Rides
    Amusement Insider
    Canobie Coaster
    Songs Used in this video
    Hurt Feelings instrumental - Mac Miller
    Driftveil City [Pokémon: Black & White
    Chemical Plant Zone Act 2 - Sonic Mania [OST]
    I do not claim ownership of any of the music in this video. All credit goes to their respective owners
    Thank you all so much for watching and don't forget to subscribe!

Комментарии • 546

  • @amusementscape
    @amusementscape 3 года назад +515

    Coastoons is kinda like the coaster community therapist... he tells everyone the hard truth

    • @TracyA123
      @TracyA123 3 года назад +8

      Hey WNY Coasters! Another great creator! Check him out peeps!

    • @amusementscape
      @amusementscape 3 года назад +5

      @@TracyA123 thank you!!!

    • @TracyA123
      @TracyA123 3 года назад +4

      @@amusementscape No need to thank me you earned it!

    • @TracyA123
      @TracyA123 3 года назад +1

      @Titus Jayceon Aww sweet! Kudos on the level up in your relationship! True love is suspicious and jealous and most importantly, controlling and manipulative!

    • @invertingthrills
      @invertingthrills 2 года назад +1

      @@amusementscape wdym he is kinda like the coaster community therapist. He is

  • @Lukas_Kramer
    @Lukas_Kramer 3 года назад +239

    „B&M loopers are everywhere!”
    -cries in Europe

    • @RainbowDemon
      @RainbowDemon 3 года назад +11

      No it’s a good thing he’s explaining its oversaturated europe has such a unique variety when it comes to coasters (aside from dive) I cant wait to move there

    • @rct3isepic
      @rct3isepic 3 года назад +5

      Also cries in Washington State

    • @Lukas_Kramer
      @Lukas_Kramer 3 года назад +11

      @@RainbowDemon Yes, I know, and I do appreciate the diversity of the coasters we have here in Europe. Went on my first USA trip in 2014 and after the third park I did not even bother with the B&M loopers anymore. But I do wish we had some more here in Europe, I think they're aesthetically very pleasing and the old school ones are pretty intense as well. All my love goes out to Dragon Khan (and probably Kumba) and a couple of B&M inverts that just have great intensity.

    • @appalachianenthusiast9499
      @appalachianenthusiast9499 3 года назад +2

      Wings and Dives are all the rage in Europe. Off the top of my head, the only two B&M Floorless Coasters in Europe I can name are Dæmonen and Superman.
      EDIT: They are the only two in Europe

    • @rundtossen
      @rundtossen 3 года назад

      @@appalachianenthusiast9499 what park is superman located at?

  • @ElToroRyan
    @ElToroRyan 3 года назад +18

    oh damn, you right #subbed

    • @Coastoons
      @Coastoons  3 года назад +6

      Thanks! Love your problematic coasters

  • @coasterkeychain6852
    @coasterkeychain6852 3 года назад +182

    I really like what Kennywood did with Steel Curtain, a lot of those elements are really unique.

    • @RemixedVoice
      @RemixedVoice 3 года назад +16

      Yep. Sea serpent rolls and cutbacks are so strangely underused in the industry, compared to their siblings cobra rolls and corkscrews...
      And of course, the drachen fire drop lol

    • @coasterkeychain6852
      @coasterkeychain6852 3 года назад +7

      I’m pretty sure Steel Curtain is the only coaster that has the drachen fire loop currently, so it’s definitely unique. I’m happy that they put some new stuff in the coaster!

    • @halfaworldaway
      @halfaworldaway 3 года назад +3

      Joe Draves is the guy! He also designed Maxx Force, which is packed with some really intersting and fun inversion elements like the 'dog tongue'. I hope he's called back for more thrill coasters on that scale.

    • @coasterkeychain6852
      @coasterkeychain6852 3 года назад +2

      @@halfaworldaway Yeah! He’s really been taking the industry by storm recently. Hopefully more parks can buy their air launch coaster soon!

    • @RealBlueony
      @RealBlueony 3 года назад +5

      @@RemixedVoice Ironically, Kennywood is the only park in the world with two cutbacks in the park. Sky Rocket also has one.

  • @lukesoliman647
    @lukesoliman647 3 года назад +182

    Other youtubers: “top 10 overhyped coasters”
    Coastoons: “airtime is overhyped”

    • @Jolei33
      @Jolei33 3 года назад +3

      Then hyper coasters are overhyped.

    • @Rose-rx4zn
      @Rose-rx4zn 3 года назад

      Airtime is overhyped i will always like Giovanna hypers for trying something different than airtime

    • @liam-wg3gf
      @liam-wg3gf 3 года назад

      @@Jolei33 overhypered* 😆XD

  • @iceblade019
    @iceblade019 3 года назад +126

    I like what Gerstlauer is doing with their more hang time focused inversions

    • @Adrianm00n
      @Adrianm00n 3 года назад +5

      I’m a big fan of S&S one of a kind inversions, Max Force/ Steel Curtain...

    • @unitedcoasters6732
      @unitedcoasters6732 3 года назад +4

      Ik, that wierd loop on monster at Adventureland that looks like it was stretched in photoshop is so cool

    • @dibble1331
      @dibble1331 Год назад

      Monster is on another level of *h a n g*

  • @sharkfinn4
    @sharkfinn4 3 года назад +23

    Getting into the coaster community for the first time, I remember being really surprised that there's so much hype around airtime. My favorite elements were almost always either launches or inversions.

    • @Coastoons
      @Coastoons  3 года назад +4

      Same. I like airtime now but when I was first getting into it launches and strangely hangtime were my thing

  • @coasterdaddy7123
    @coasterdaddy7123 3 года назад +90

    Agreed. I absolutely love airtime, but there is so much more to coasters than just airtime...

  • @AssortedJade
    @AssortedJade 3 года назад +15

    Just starting the video but immediately I'm struck by the way we as enthusiasts so often forget the way children and teens view coasters. Do you remember the first time you experienced an inversion? It was absolute magic. We need them. They bring kids and casuals into the fold. They capture the imagination in a way "air time hills" never could.

    • @liam-wg3gf
      @liam-wg3gf 3 года назад

      I’m currently 14 and never got a thrill of inversions, didn’t care when I did my “first inversion” since i didn’t get any thrill out of it. But first airtime hill was unforgettable. The adrenaline was insane, and it was a true magic. I only really get a thrill of slow inversions especially stuff like jojo rolls and stalls. Maybe when I’m older I won’t be able to bare airtime and will settle to inversions, as I find them less intense and just something to smile about on

    • @casuallystalled
      @casuallystalled Год назад

      and there's probably a lot of people that are afraid of airtime, because not everyone wants the sensation of being lifted out of their seat

  • @makyostarr515
    @makyostarr515 3 года назад +25

    Smiler does that "inversions are the main focus" so well because those inversions were all still fairly new when it debuted, and even now they all still feel very different from other versions of them and are fitted together in the layout creatively and they sprinkle airtime highlights in instead to change it up. I've never ridden it but I'm sure many love it for a reason lol

    • @coasteraddict10
      @coasteraddict10 2 года назад +3

      Smiler relies on rolls/corkscrews a bit too much imo, would have been a better ride if the two rolls at the top of the hill were just standard drops that gave some ejector. Not that the restraints would be any good for it, but that's a different story. The batwing, sea serpent roll and back to back dive loops are great (the cobra kinda sucks the transitions aren't great) and it's nice that the rolls are all split apart so don't get monotonous, but 6 of the inversions basically being the same thing is too much.

    • @dominicjannazo7144
      @dominicjannazo7144 9 месяцев назад +1

      Having ridden Smiler, after seven or eight flips you don't get much out of doing more. The second half doesn't feel any different from the first, and while I don't hate it, I wouldn't go out of my way to do it again. (Which is fine because I don't live in England)
      Compare it to the intamin 10-inversion models that showcase different things in different parts of the ride. The Smiler ends up feeling like a bunch of the same thing over and over.

  • @XscreamThrills
    @XscreamThrills 3 года назад +50

    I think Copperhead Strike was the sign that inversions are coming back... oh and Steel Curtain 🙃

    • @zacharyyamashita8554
      @zacharyyamashita8554 3 года назад +6

      RMC’s zero g stall is one of the best inversions these days.

    • @H3lue
      @H3lue 3 года назад +2

      Definitely Steel Curtain

    • @H3lue
      @H3lue 3 года назад +5

      Also Steel Curtain is an example of the main feature being inversions-done-right

  • @CoasterKey
    @CoasterKey 3 года назад +41

    Yeah airtime almost gets too good of a rap. People need to appreciate other aspects of a coaster instead of “haha ejector go brrrrr”

  • @rodolfomiranda2676
    @rodolfomiranda2676 3 года назад +43

    I Actually think that from a GP point of view, an inversion meant the roller coaster is intense just because it goes upside down, and when Arrow and B&M made the loopers, they normalized inversions to the point where they are seen as kind of mediocre by enthusiasts, and thats why all these new inversions such as a stall are so appealing now. At least thats what i think.

    • @cynicanal111
      @cynicanal111 2 года назад +3

      I think a big part of it is also the nature of inversions. B&M had these perfectly engineered inversions that are a lot less exciting than the oldschool almost-round Schwarzkopf loops where you really feel a difference in Gs as you go around.

    • @viddork
      @viddork 2 года назад

      @@cynicanal111 More years ago than I care to admit, when I was still pretty new to coasters, I went on Montezooma's Revenge something like a dozen times in one day (the park was virtually empty). It was my first time on a shuttle loop, and it took me half those times to successfully hold my arms up going into the loop. You had to deliberately push back as you started to rise because there was so much momentum pushing you forward. If I recall (and this seems impossible but I swear it's how I remember it), there were no shoulder restraints, so your whole upper body pitched forward! Now _that's_ an inversion!

    • @cynicanal111
      @cynicanal111 2 года назад +1

      @@viddork I grew up in Houston, where we also had an old Schwarzkopf flywheel shuttle loop (Greezed Lightnin'). Your memory is correct -- no OTSRs on those, just a lapbar, so if you can't sit up straight through the forces (5.5 Gs!), you get folded forward!

    • @viddork
      @viddork 2 года назад

      @@cynicanal111 Thanks. Good to know at least one of my memories is still accurate!
      The other thing I remember about Montezooma was that it's the only shuttle loop I ever went on that didn't apply the brakes going backwards through the station, so the train actually went a fair distance up the back hill. Why all the others braked, I'll never know.

    • @cynicanal111
      @cynicanal111 2 года назад

      @@viddork The flywheel ones (like Montezooma, Greezed Lightnin', and Turbine in Germany) didn't brake, the weight-drop ones did.

  • @ChristinaEdwardsWeather
    @ChristinaEdwardsWeather 2 года назад +2

    DUDE. I LOVE inversions!! I never liked roller coasters because they were all air time hills, but the loopers arrived and I was all 😍 Love a good B&M with inversions, they are my jam!

  • @brandonsmith5974
    @brandonsmith5974 3 года назад +24

    I love how he admitted that the title was clickbait, cause it totally got me to click on this video.

    • @PoseidonEntertainment
      @PoseidonEntertainment 3 года назад +3

      Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Might as well bring people in, but produce quality content.

  • @revimfadli4666
    @revimfadli4666 3 года назад +11

    "could you imagine a raven turn on any other coaster besides a 4D coaster?"
    Designer(s) of Flying Dinosaur: "actually yes"

  • @SiebayPlays
    @SiebayPlays 3 года назад +23

    I like airtime like most enthusiasts, but I like my inversions even more. I swear people praise airtime way too much.

    • @JerseyDevils21
      @JerseyDevils21 3 года назад

      Fr

    • @MillenniumForceMan
      @MillenniumForceMan 3 года назад +1

      Airtime isn’t even my favorite thing on coasters, but I still love it and it makes sense why everyone does, it’s just much more fun getting thrown out of your seat than getting pushed down in it or pinned to the side or hanging there

    • @cratcliff8820
      @cratcliff8820 3 года назад

      I always just thought it was a taste thing. I truly just enjoy the sensation of 0 Gs over positives. But you’re right, I do think most enthusiasts also lean that way. At least the ones with the biggest platforms do.

  • @RadioMuse1
    @RadioMuse1 3 года назад +23

    I'd argue Intamin started the "sprinkle inversions in as seasoning" thing on the Blitz model (starting with Maverick in 2007). None of the Intamin Blitz coasters feel like inversions are the focus, they just kinda have them when/where it makes more sense for the layout to have them rather than a non-inverting element. Though Alan Schilke was messing with the same idea back at S&S with the El Loco models around the same time (announced at IAAPA before Maverick I believe, but the first installation was Steel Hawg at Indiana Beach in 2008). It seems like it's mostly a matter of a few layout designers really trying to make the best possible ride experience without being put in a box regarding the elements used.
    Even Steel Curtain - a very inversion focused ride - has several moments of airtime sprinkled in and it feels like the inversions were a way to keep the ride as vertical as possible - allowing a 4000ft long hyper coaster to fit less in a similar or less space than a Batman: The Ride clone.

    • @Coastoons
      @Coastoons  3 года назад +5

      Yeah, I think Intamin was the one that started the trend but RMC really leaned into it. I don't really credit them though for doing it bc they also had those like 10 inversions models that went everywhere. Those were kinda like the B&M loopers.

    • @MattMcIrvin
      @MattMcIrvin 2 года назад +2

      Inversions are starting to creep back into the basic out-and-back hypers too.

  • @Zach-Zach
    @Zach-Zach 3 года назад +5

    When airtime is out I believe that everyone will get hyped over drop track elements. I know that it is an old concept but it is so fun and it feels like it could be popular in a little bit

  • @donaldkennedy9573
    @donaldkennedy9573 3 года назад +11

    I love Tatsu at SFMM. That Pretzel Loop is insanely fantastic. And it is built into the mountain. And you can't see the loop from the top.

  • @louierivera8028
    @louierivera8028 3 года назад +2

    iont know bruh if every coaster had airtime i’d be in HEAVEN

  • @connorlee2426
    @connorlee2426 3 года назад +6

    I think unique inversions are what makes inversions so good. Such as, on Blue Hawk at Six Flags Over Georgia, the butterfly element is so intense and feel great even with with the crappy transitions.

    • @Coastoons
      @Coastoons  3 года назад +1

      When manufacturers get creative with them, that's when they really shine

  • @aaronkuphall8719
    @aaronkuphall8719 3 года назад +14

    I miss the Arrow mega loopers. So sad to see them all disappearing.

    • @ryansullivan3085
      @ryansullivan3085 2 года назад +1

      Not all of them! Viper's still here!

    • @jaimelannister1797
      @jaimelannister1797 11 месяцев назад

      @@ryansullivan3085it’s only a matter of time before Viper is gone

  • @MattMcIrvin
    @MattMcIrvin 2 года назад +1

    The ride that introduced me to inversions was The Loch Ness Monster at BGW, one of Arrow's greatest loopers--but Loch Ness isn't just about inversions. It's got only two, and they're some of the most photogenic inversions ever built; but it's also got long drops into a beautiful river valley and a freakish giant tunnel helix. And since the inversions are vertical loops with simple hills in and out of them, there are none of the bad transitions that Arrow was known for. It's a superb use of inversions, and there didn't need to be very many.

  • @cilantrobasket7694
    @cilantrobasket7694 3 года назад +4

    Although the smiler is inversion focused, it does it really well

  • @keziah5647
    @keziah5647 3 года назад +1

    Agreed that Arrow/B&M is mostly what the GP think of when inversions come to mind. People still love them though and imo it's why newer rides are so good and mindblowing for people to experience for the first time. Enthusiasts love to talk about air time but GP will always talk about the inversions first in my experience. A good example is Goliath at SFGAm. One of the shortest rides there, but it's everyone's favorite bc the elements are just that good and it breaks away from the stale mold. Great topic btw

  • @silentslayer9204
    @silentslayer9204 3 года назад +4

    Coastoons is the only coaster youtuber that doesn’t sound like a top 10 youtuber

  • @suncoasterstv6512
    @suncoasterstv6512 3 года назад +2

    I started my journey with coasters during the birth of inversions. I'm old enough to say that I rode The Python at BGT a week after it opened(I was 6 to be exact), and it terrified me to where I never wanted to get on another coaster again. But then I rode Space Mountain and BTMR and found out that coasters had more to offer than inversions. A few years later and The Scorpion opened at BGT and the vertical loop became the coolest thing I had ever experienced. For the longest time inversions were it for me, but now I appreciate a good balance between airtime and inversions. This is why i'm so hyped for Iron Gwazi. It looks like it will be a great airtime machine, but also throw in some interesting inversions like the zero g stall and the death spiral(and that insanely overbanked turn is pretty much close to a inversion as well).

  • @liam-wg3gf
    @liam-wg3gf 3 года назад +3

    For me I don’t really get a thrill out the average inversion, but what you said about the forces they give, is what I care about. I just like negative forces, and that’s what my type is. It can be a speedy hill that flys you upward, or a jarring slow inversion where I’m hanging. The out of the seat sensations is what made me love coasters. Roller coasters are meant to be fun and if we all have our type and can enjoy them it’s all amazing. And respect the other types for the other people who enjoy them.:) I also don’t mind a ride without that many negative forces and can find joy instead in bringging a friend and having a bond experience

    • @hellacia8151
      @hellacia8151 Год назад

      I think designers know which ones are the best and stick with those. Zero G Rolls, Zero G Stalls, inline twists, heartline rolls, etc now seem to be the best ones because they give a variety of forces like airtime and hangtime with laterals as well.

  • @lightningbot85
    @lightningbot85 3 года назад +31

    wait so i'm gonna have to resign my rct3 coaster with 28 inversions that i made just to double the smilers record? :(

    • @eier5472
      @eier5472 3 года назад

      Considering it looks like what Arrow used to design their rides, probably yes...
      But the sad thing is that all these coaster races seem to have somewhat stalled, no new most inversions, highest, fastest... Heck Kingda Ka is now the highest coaster for 16 years

    • @lightningbot85
      @lightningbot85 3 года назад

      @@eier5472 Yeah maybe that new Sixflags Qiddyia could spark a new coaster war (if that happens) with Energylandia, just because those are the only parks I think have enough money to invest in a coaster that beats Kingda Ka's record. (or formula rosa or the smiler) I do think any park that beats the smiler's record should have an even more demonic theme :)

    • @wypmangames
      @wypmangames 3 года назад +2

      I made a 50 inversion coaster with 15 minute ride time and over 90 seconds of total airtime
      10 excitement
      5 ish fear
      7 nausea

    • @Cookiecat1212
      @Cookiecat1212 3 года назад

      @@eier5472 unfortunately for hieight at least. King da ka is prob the tallest it’s gonna get with height requirements and the fact that the taller the more mantinance like top thrill and king are always down.

    • @annalisahartmann5661
      @annalisahartmann5661 3 года назад

      "Roller Coaster 4 looks too intense for me..."

  • @jpadila7
    @jpadila7 3 года назад +4

    Some of the best coasters right now are by RMC and intamin, and have good mix of unique inversions and ejector/floater airtime moments. I don’t think the inversions are disappearing

  • @wfcmarl6066
    @wfcmarl6066 3 года назад +9

    Welcome to the uk, where we have all the record breaking inversion coasters

  • @dindog22
    @dindog22 3 года назад +3

    I always liked inversions. of course, I am of a certain age and I remember when Corkscrew at Cedar Point was new and it was a big deal. people waited in line a long time to ride it

    • @viddork
      @viddork 2 года назад

      Talk about a ride that exists solely for its inversions! I, too, predate the modern inversions, but never got to ride the original Corkscrew at Knott's. I have ridden it at Silverwood (Idaho) though - once, for the credit, and because it's historically significant. Don't know if I'll ever bother to again.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment
    @PoseidonEntertainment 3 года назад +1

    I think you make a good point is saying that the market became over-saturated with inversion heavy coasters, but now it feels as if they aren't being developed at all. Parks now all want to have B&M Dives, Hypers and Flyers, but I would really look to see more unique loopers and inverts. Granted, I'm biased because I've only been to a handful of parks outside of Florida, but Kumba, Montu, Hulk and Kraken are all really solid here and I would like to see more. I think you also make a good point in saying that clones have played a bit part in the inversion fatigue.

  • @CoriLane3060
    @CoriLane3060 3 года назад +10

    I’ve always wondered.....why do people like airtime so much like there are so manny cool inventions.

    • @ericspwncer1274
      @ericspwncer1274 3 года назад +1

      Because there is nothing more funner than a tummy tickling airtime hill. Lol

    • @louiswright8282
      @louiswright8282 3 года назад

      Because after riding so many coasters they lose that stomach sensation, and airtime is the closes thing they have to feel that feeling again.

  • @Graham_the_musician
    @Graham_the_musician Год назад +1

    I totally agree with the airtime thing and that coasters need more than just airtime. Even though b&m coasters lack some originality I really love the way the older ones so violently rip you through them

  • @Jeeter8
    @Jeeter8 3 года назад +1

    B&M has done right recently with Thunderbird at Holiday World. The ride flows so well and the inversions feel made for the ride specifically despite being standard inversions on many other rides. Unfortunately Thunderbird is often overlooked and even B&M hasn’t replicated it since

  • @MillenniumForceMan
    @MillenniumForceMan 3 года назад +1

    I agree with u the inversions are making a comeback cuz they are now complimentary, which is the way they should be

  • @clubstep8244
    @clubstep8244 3 года назад +1

    My favourite Inversion is a very slow hardline roll After the Final brakerun of its coaster, its also the only Inversion Featured on it. It makes the inversion so badass, so special, how the ride basically said "sike im not over yet, here go upside down"

    • @zander_19
      @zander_19 3 года назад

      Haha I know what you’re referring to but for those who don’t I like how u didn’t spoil the coaster

    • @clubstep8244
      @clubstep8244 3 года назад

      @@zander_19 Thats why i avoided the Name ^^ My favourite Inversion however. Not from the Inversion itself but from the way how its integrated in the Layout

  • @NorthernRidesYaBoi
    @NorthernRidesYaBoi 3 года назад +1

    I love inversions so much. I'm a sucker for airtime, but I want to enjoy everything else, too, and I think inversions are certainly the coolest types of elements and the ones with most character

  • @IrvingNestorRandom
    @IrvingNestorRandom 3 года назад +8

    THANK YOU! THIS NEEDED TO BE SAID!

  • @-K_J-
    @-K_J- 3 года назад +13

    You need variety in a park so that everyone has something to their taste and thrill level, but I wonder if this obsession with airtime could be used to create an insurgence of nee wooden coasters. Since they have little to few inversions depending on maker and how they're built. (Hybrid tracks, the titan track thing gci is doing, all that)

  • @danield9003
    @danield9003 3 года назад +7

    I've never been a big airtime guy. Probably explains why I perfer inverts to hypers.

  • @drew_bruh
    @drew_bruh 3 года назад +3

    Dude, everything about this video made too much sense. Great Vid!

  • @bettymac1866
    @bettymac1866 2 года назад

    Thank you for the Monday laugh. Much appreciated. Your energy is excellent.

  • @hellacia8151
    @hellacia8151 Год назад +1

    Inversions can give: airtime, hangtime, laterals, intensity. Mere airtime hills will give airtime. Zero G Rolls and Zero G Stalls will continue to be some of my favorite coaster moments.

  • @wickedphant0m
    @wickedphant0m 3 года назад +1

    I think what makes airtime so addictive is that it's the closest approximation of flying. Your body is rising up toward the sky as though you were taking flight. There are lots of activities where you can turn yourself upside down or where you fall to the earth, but the feeling of negative Gs actually pushing you upward is almost entirely unique to coasters.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 3 года назад

      Slingshot rides and S&S Space Shots also give airtime, though a coaster's maneuvering makes it feel more special

  • @vancewade6251
    @vancewade6251 3 года назад +2

    Can't believe I've only just found this channel. Incredible video mate

  • @Thim22Z7
    @Thim22Z7 2 года назад +1

    8:18 What I like is variety. Inversions, airtime, etc. Purely inversion or airtime focussed rides can still be great, but a variety of elements makes the best kind of rides. This is one of the reasons I like Lost Gravity more than Untamed, Untamed is just short airtime pop after short airtime pop with some rolls but Lost Gravity has floater, ejector whip, hangtime, etc etc.

  • @HiAnonym
    @HiAnonym 3 года назад +2

    Like Werner Stengel once said: You don't have to just throw extreme element after extreme element towards the rider, you need sections which are very extreme and intense like ejector or an inversion but then you also need sections in which the rider can calm down a little and realize what just happened before...but these calm sections shouldn't be so that you fall asleep so it's a very tricky task to get a layout right
    I'd say he ment that the real art of rollercoaster design is not to get extreme intensity or pacing but to get the sequencing of elements during the ride right.

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 2 года назад +1

    I definitely have to agree from a designer's point of view. Whenever I play Planet Coaster, the coasters I end up building inevitably are based on an existing model with a custom layout based on that model because there's just something in my mind that prevents me from using a coaster model unprototypically. Thing is, when I build any sort of B&M coaster with inversions I feel like I'm just stringing stock elements from the "Loops" and "Rolls" menus together, whereas when I'm building, say, an RMC I-Box Hybrid, Gerstlauer Eurofighter or Infinity, or S&S El Loco, I'm almost exclusively using freeform track and having everything flow together, and the ride just ends up better that way both in the POV and stats-wise. I also have an easier time deciding how to build the ride with the latter models.

  • @ukthemeparksquad4514
    @ukthemeparksquad4514 3 года назад +1

    Neat video and I agree with the overall sentiment that it’s the over-saturation of an element that makes it lose the appeal.
    That being said I do fundamentally disagree that B&Ms inversions are forgettable when you hear most enthusiasts including myself rave about the crazy whip and positive gs of “old school B&M”. Not to mention one of these B&Ms ended up creating the best inversion of all time, Montu’s batwing.
    Still overall a solid video!

  • @svis6888
    @svis6888 3 года назад +3

    My #1 is El Toro and I like it for airtime. But inversions are good too, it make a ride enjoyable and not boring, and when they are greatly integrated to the layout, they can be even better than the repeating hills ont B&M hypers
    Great Video!

  • @Raptor3698
    @Raptor3698 2 года назад +1

    My thing is this: I love coasters that do the job that they were designed to to.
    You need a coaster with fast low to the ground sense of speed and intensity, you need an airtime machine, and you gotta have the inversion machines. I do wish there were more stand out looping coasters though. Cause the standouts are hypers, Gigas, and RMCs. Which is why I kinda like Kennywood’s, Magic Mountain, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, standouts for being varied.

  • @Cinnamonsugar1875
    @Cinnamonsugar1875 Год назад

    Man you should have a lot more subscribers your content is amazing

  • @more_bumps_ahead
    @more_bumps_ahead 3 года назад

    Agreed on the much needed investigation perspective, excellent job!

  • @caetanobonamigo6597
    @caetanobonamigo6597 3 года назад +1

    Man i love your channel

  • @tannerb8569
    @tannerb8569 3 года назад +1

    I love variety with rides, a good mix of all forces, airtime, inversions and such

  • @macdaddy6889
    @macdaddy6889 2 года назад

    These videos are awesome love the content!!

  • @joshihenschl1634
    @joshihenschl1634 3 года назад

    really like your video man! love the quality and style.

  • @MGNate
    @MGNate 3 года назад

    This is so well made good job dude I can agree with everything. Nice job.

  • @zmatrix
    @zmatrix 3 года назад

    First time watching one of your vids. Damn good narration and a really funny cadence that kept me interested. Instant sub. Keep it goin! Coaster community needs you haha

  • @haddonbarker1
    @haddonbarker1 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I'm only a bit over 1 year into being a coaster enthusiast, but it's been interesting to see how my tastes have changed and evolved just in that short amount of time. At the start, I was ALL ABOUT inversions. After riding my first B&M hyper a couple of weeks ago (Mako), I've gotta say that I'm pretty into airtime, right now. XD But I think combining the two is definitely a winning combination, as we've seen in many RMC coasters.

  • @ThemeParkAvenue
    @ThemeParkAvenue 3 года назад +2

    I personally think first drops take a much greater fall. Pun aside, excellent video! Keep up the great work!

  • @NahBruh303
    @NahBruh303 Год назад

    Schwartzkoph saying they were a juggernaut was a perfect description for them. Powerful, well known, legendary

  • @mebran1193
    @mebran1193 2 года назад

    I was very impressed with this argument. Made me think and mostly agree

  • @halfaworldaway
    @halfaworldaway 3 года назад

    This is a very good channel and I hope it gets a lot more subscribers. :)

  • @gpcoasters7824
    @gpcoasters7824 3 года назад

    You make fine points! Dope video! Subbed.

  • @ethangreenwood7605
    @ethangreenwood7605 2 года назад +1

    It’s strange as the smiler holds the record for inversions yet the best part of the ride is the second air time hill. Despite this each inversion still feels unique and the ride doesn’t feel repetitive.

  • @theheardtheorem
    @theheardtheorem 3 года назад +1

    This channel is like a well done vertical loop.

  • @grantd7545
    @grantd7545 3 года назад +1

    Just discovered your channel man, I'm not quite an "enthusiast" (havent been on enough coasters I feel) but I love roller coasters. Plus the Mac miller instrumental? Shit automatic sub lmao keep up the good work brotha.

  • @widovv_296
    @widovv_296 3 года назад +2

    Woah that Mac background music caught me by surprise. Respect

  • @KWHCoaster
    @KWHCoaster Год назад

    Was so relieved when I saw the reveal for Yukon Striker. When a new coaster was rumored, I was worried it might be another out and back again.

  • @BurgerInATux
    @BurgerInATux 3 года назад

    I subscribed yesterday and ive already watched over 20 videos

  • @bjrnerriksen1961
    @bjrnerriksen1961 3 года назад

    A good strong corkscrew gets me going...feels like a tight loving hug.

  • @MrPopsfreshnmyer
    @MrPopsfreshnmyer 3 года назад +1

    I agree with you about B&M. They replaced (and put out of business) Arrow because they stopped innovating. B&M turned into the go-to for sit down multi-loopers but frequently relied on doing subtle changes to the Kumba layout. RMC brought new inversions to market and they blew up. Now look at the inversions Intamin and Vekoma are putting in. Stalls are all the rage. I like that S&S is trying to come up with new inversions, it'll be wild to see what they do with their Axis concept.

  • @chesterogilvie1393
    @chesterogilvie1393 3 года назад

    Why isn’t this being talked about more ... spot on

  • @philippzimmer5718
    @philippzimmer5718 3 года назад +2

    Inversions on new Vekomas are really good for example the first zero g roll on Hals über Kopf at Tripsdrill is the highlight of the ride and not that it has airtime on an inverted coaster

  • @cheffren7011
    @cheffren7011 3 года назад +1

    You know my favorite inversions are the loop on Typhoon at Bobbejaanland and Anubis the ride's heartline roll. The loop is so intense. I once went on it and a lot of my friends told me they grey-out on it. And the heartline roll gives great hangtime.

  • @carriebuchanan7901
    @carriebuchanan7901 3 года назад +1

    Good call on B&M killing inversions!

  • @newclothes8165
    @newclothes8165 3 года назад

    i was a kid in the 70's when loops were the new thing. Loops will always be the most exciting element for me because a loop is so intimidating. Before I could ride a coaster with a loop I would stare at it all day because it was amazing to see something go upside down and not fall. I never been a big fan of air time especially now because I'm older and bigger and air time makes me think I'm gonna fly off the coaster,,,,which is what it is supposed to do. Still, walking into a park and seeing a huge loop in its awe, so intimidating will always been my thing. Especially seeing it from the parking lot. Thats just my take on it.

  • @damegataco
    @damegataco 3 года назад

    Bro you got an epic narrating style... It's like a good inversion xD

  • @D2Dale
    @D2Dale 2 года назад +1

    the beast thing about coasters were i am (UK) every single big coaster is diforent, yes there is a fur clones, but that's just Vekcoma SLC's and boomerangs, but even then, there is not many of them around anymore, what makes them even more exiting

  • @theodoreperkoski4934
    @theodoreperkoski4934 3 года назад +2

    I think the conversion of Steel Phantom to Phantom revenge showed that it is possible to have a great coaster without inversions

  • @trimlesscoasters
    @trimlesscoasters 3 года назад +1

    Aaayyyy 4000! Congrats!🎉

  • @solo.digital.gaming
    @solo.digital.gaming 3 года назад

    on Mr Freeze reverse blast, when you sot in the back seat, you get BOTH inversion and airtime on the inverted tophat! truly a crazy sensation

  • @mydogvlad
    @mydogvlad 3 года назад

    Awesome video

  • @Varraz
    @Varraz 3 года назад

    I'm glad that my home park Tripsdrill does its Inversions the right way, none of them feel like filler

  • @ColinHuth
    @ColinHuth 3 года назад +1

    Airtime may get more attention because it’s inherently a force that exerts an interesting sensation on the body, whereas inversions can be anything from “unbelievably intense” to “virtually forceless,” acting as more of a visual element than anything.
    Some people’s bodies react to airtime extremely strongly, too, or to one type over another. I had some crazy back-row rides on Skyrush, and despite the ludicrous ejector, never felt much different at the end… but later, after Candymonium (end of a hot day, fully warmed up, running fast) the zero-G sensation and floajector was almost *euphoric* despite being so much milder.
    Brains are weird. So as much as other elements make a more-balanced ride... I can understand not wanting to lose the only thing to trigger that unique sensation.

  • @user-pl5ds8iz6q
    @user-pl5ds8iz6q 3 года назад +5

    I don't even ride B&M loopers anymore. They bore the shit out of me. However I will never get tired of a B&M hyper

  • @Thesmokercoaster
    @Thesmokercoaster 3 года назад

    I am amazed you went through a hole video on Inversions and didn't mention the smiler.

  • @reiemg
    @reiemg 3 года назад

    interesting take. I like this video concept

  • @CoasterHorizons
    @CoasterHorizons 3 года назад +2

    This is the smartest thing I've ever heard! When I was just becoming a thoosie, I just liked coasters in general, but didn't know much about them. I had never heard the term "airtime" at that time, so I thought inversions were everything. My first inverting coaster was Superman: Ultimate Flight @ SFGAdv, and DAMN that left an impression. Then, I started actually researching coasters and learning more, and learned about forces. That's when I started loving airtime.
    also, the vertical loop on boomerangs are pretty dang forceful, some of the best loops out there, frankly. The cobra roll can be really good if it's smooth.

    • @Coastoons
      @Coastoons  3 года назад

      That was my first inverting coaster! We both had crazy first inversions

    • @CoasterHorizons
      @CoasterHorizons 3 года назад

      @@Coastoons LOL that's one of the things that made me obsessed with coasters!

  • @razor.2.rosary
    @razor.2.rosary 3 года назад

    So many clips from Hersheypark (Great Bear, Sooperdooperlooper, Sidewinder, Candymonium) - very satisfying

  • @heideparkchecker
    @heideparkchecker Месяц назад

    08:06 Haha whaaaat - I didn’t expect to see Florentin Will (a small german comedian, actor and podcaster) in an American Coaster nerd video haha. I love that! Greetings from Germany.

  • @a.j.cappuccio2859
    @a.j.cappuccio2859 3 года назад +9

    I'd like to see a hanging stall on. a wing coaster.

  • @tismejaytee
    @tismejaytee 3 года назад

    Coastoons back at it again with the 🔥 content!

    • @Lukester1234
      @Lukester1234 3 года назад +1

      Coaster Fusion back at it again with another comment!

    • @tismejaytee
      @tismejaytee 3 года назад +1

      @@Lukester1234 cedar thrills Back at it again with another reply!

  • @Alex-if2kt
    @Alex-if2kt 2 года назад

    My local park has the smaller Raptor coaster layout and RMC balanced the mix of elements very well.

  • @pens6564
    @pens6564 2 года назад

    Last monts as a rookie in this intusiast rollercoaster world I've been learning a loot with this type o content! But the most idiot is that I'm from Brazil and never had the oportunitty to travel for some great park like six flags or cedar point... I mean, is funny because the unic rollercoaster that I ride was the Firewhip here in Brazil (is a classic vekoma inverted, that model who have something like 40 identical models! So, sometimes is difficult for me to understand why hyper coasters or giga coaster sometimes doesn't have any invertion or loop! haha, Probably one day when i finally ride a lot of coasters in a travel for U.S. parks I'll finally understand what's the motivation behind every project!
    Congrats for your amazing content bro!!

  • @Smoovey
    @Smoovey 3 года назад

    I wholeheartedly agree with everything in this video!! 1000%

    • @Smoovey
      @Smoovey 3 года назад

      And I just want to add, the Metropolis music from Sonic The Hedgehog 2 in the background is the topping on the cake lol