Yu-Gi-Oh! Greatest Banlist Prediction of All Time!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @evanarmstrong6717
    @evanarmstrong6717 2 месяца назад +30

    If we are banning flamberge and putting ash to one. OSS can stay in my opinion it allows SE to be used as an engine in weaker fire decks such as infernoid and doesn’t make diabelle and wanted obsolete cards.

    • @andreacolasante5807
      @andreacolasante5807 2 месяца назад +2

      Ash to one lol

    • @traplover6357
      @traplover6357 2 месяца назад +1

      Nah, at least Wanted to 1 cuz its a better Diabellstar +1

    • @jarom1144
      @jarom1144 2 месяца назад

      No. If you want the diabellastar package, fine but I hope they annihilate SE. If OSS stays then SE Ash gets banned along with flamburge. I don't even want to see SE as a rogue deck.

    • @baozoh4529
      @baozoh4529 2 месяца назад

      I think banning Poplar hits the deck the hardest

  • @MsAnJel
    @MsAnJel 2 месяца назад +7

    It's gonna be a short list, why? Konami is playing wait and see with power creeping, trying to fix Yu-Gi-Oh through set releases. Just my opinion.

  • @vyraall8430
    @vyraall8430 2 месяца назад +16

    gamma to 2, called by to 2 and then shifter to 2 so that way we have more counters to shifter and mulcharmys. We would match the OCG with these changes.

    • @rocapbg9518
      @rocapbg9518 2 месяца назад +11

      I love mini games that decide if I win or not

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 2 месяца назад +4

      Best shifter counter : shifter to 0

    • @TheMrfamous7
      @TheMrfamous7 2 месяца назад

      Gamma to two just to counter shifter is wild lol. I would rather have called by to 3 😊

    • @Matheus-ue1qb
      @Matheus-ue1qb 2 месяца назад +1

      Good, so the meta combo decks can play through even more disruptions...

  • @OutcastMosquito
    @OutcastMosquito 2 месяца назад +6

    Shifter, nib and drnm all need to be in the game at 3 to balance the pace of the game. If any of these 3 leave I feel it could upset the balance of the entire game. They introduced these cards all at once for a good reason and haven’t touched them since. As it should be. Nib was to counter the insane million combo decks, drnm is to counter negates and shifter is the only thing really keeping graveyard based decks in check.

    • @gamingsuperun
      @gamingsuperun 2 месяца назад

      Good players always set up something to activate to get around DRNM, it doesnt feel as powerful as it used to when high tier decks can set the whole board from 1 or 2 cards and have 3 potential cards to get around your only way around the board.

    • @redeltai
      @redeltai 2 месяца назад

      No because drnm and nib clear mentioned power bases at point of activation. Shifter is lingering and protected by game mechanic, it is the worst hand trap ever printed. Macro cosmos and skill drain can be outed, fissure and dark law can be outed. Shifter can.not. And I am not even hating the card, I usually win against it due to divine luck and experience. But I am stating the obvious, it is unfair no cap.

    • @gamingsuperun
      @gamingsuperun 2 месяца назад

      @@redeltai draw called by simple as

    • @redeltai
      @redeltai 2 месяца назад

      @@gamingsuperun sure it’s a plan

  • @jamesjones353
    @jamesjones353 2 месяца назад +1

    i agree to the vast majority other than runick fountain, that could easily be at 3 and as the semi limit only promotes good deck building and nothing more. ban the actual issues that are attached to runic, the silly amount of floodgates.
    Ban
    D/D/D Wave High King Caesar
    D/D/D Duo-Dawn King Kali Yuga
    Rivlary of warlords
    Skill drain
    Synchro Zone
    There can only be one
    Gozen match
    Epidemic Eradicator Virus
    Limit
    Red reboot
    Triple Tactics Thrust

  • @TCrazy98
    @TCrazy98 2 месяца назад +3

    Protos should also be re-banned but they wont do it

  • @Gadjiz
    @Gadjiz 2 месяца назад +5

    What do you think about Electrumite? After all the pendulum support that comes set after set, I guess (hope) they bring it back to 1. Maybe Errata it with a once per turn.

    • @DrapionMaxxx
      @DrapionMaxxx 2 месяца назад +1

      The issue is the card isn't hit in the OCG, it's not a problem in the OCG, so it will never get an errata because of this

  • @Alasterrific
    @Alasterrific 2 месяца назад +2

    Personally think skill drain is to powerful even at one. With decks having the ability to stop their opps turn with it and shut off skill drain during their own is crazy. White forest can get rid of it extremely easy and then recycle it back to their hand with queen to set and activate during the opponents turn again.

  • @babrad
    @babrad 2 месяца назад +2

    About disagreeing:
    - Yubel is not as bad as Snakes and too new for direct hits. I totally agree on 1 Phantom but on the next list not this one. Going to 2 like SP in the OCG is fine.
    - DBB is a much better hit than Gates because it forces you to run a brick + no yubel engine means you cant activate 2nd gates because there wont be any target. Having the 2 dark fiend bodies is overal more helpful.
    - An alternative would be Spirit to 1. Makes bystials high impact handtraps and forces the deck to run Terror, adding an extra brick.
    Snakes:
    - Flam wasn't leaked as a reprint in the tins so it has to go. It's block dragon anyway.
    - OSS however is tied to lore and hits more other fire decks. Personally i would prefer banning Oak and limiting Poplar instead.
    - For SnAsh, it got an ulti and the last OTS ULTI hit was Fusion Destiny to 2 for a single list.
    Tenpai
    - I believe in TCG they won't be able to keep up with a single field spell, so i was thinking about limiting Kaimen instead, or using a combination of semi limits so they are forced to use the non tenpai normal summon. This + a needed Prosperity limit would be a great blow to consistency so they can't comfortably run 25 non-engine

    • @babrad
      @babrad 2 месяца назад

      I was thinking of Shifter + Gamma to 2 but after some master duel gameplay I understand Gamma is wrong, especially with Omega replacing Baronne.
      Another hit I forgot to mention is a limit to strings to make the gimmick FTK harder while also a "wishlist" hit would be to ban Protos again

    • @babrad
      @babrad 2 месяца назад +1

      Finally about Runick, I would prefer every Runick at 3 and Hugin at 1. It's the real hit for the deck making Ash/Imperm impactful and would make floodgates more vulnerable instead of having multiple protections.
      Other formats have Terra and Instant Fusion banned, Hugin is 20 copies of both together

  • @KevnPerez
    @KevnPerez 2 месяца назад +5

    Calamity isn’t the problem, crimson dragon is. You can tell that card is gonna be a huge problem eventually

  • @4S4L3
    @4S4L3 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm not sure how to feel about the state of the game in general even despite a banlist. I started playing in April of 2023, having never played before besides when my uncle bought me a starter deck Kaiba in 2000 something. I played magic since Dissension block (2006), and enjoyed playing until I stopped in January of 2023. Magic made some changes in design I didn't agree with, saw it get worse, tried to see the best in the changes but ultimately decided to stop playing.
    I learned to play Yugioh pretty slow, looked at lots of strategies, and was wondering why anyone would play anything but a Link deck. I've been told Fusion, Synchro, and XYZ we're good at points in the game, too, but looking at what links can do currently makes me wonder if the game needs a new master rule applied. I've been told master rules usually coincide with new releases of the anime though so I'm not sure it would happen. Is the downside to Link strategies the arrows they have? Fusion generally requires a Fusion card or Poly, Synchro requires a matching number of levels top the card you want to Synchro, XYZ requires 2 of the same levels usually, but Link seems to have very loose requirements with no apparent downside that appear to just dominate even when an opponent does interact with you (Hiiata or Dharc as an example). Most decks in the game want to send stuff to the graveyard anyways, as in Yugioh the graveyard is just an extension of your hand/deck for most strategies anyways, which makes cards like Dimension Shifter or Dimensional Fissure usualy a turn ending card.
    If Konami bans the cards that are overtuned/overperforming, people will look for the next best thing, and some may quit. I don't see myself quitting as the game itself has helped me be more social, meet new friends, travel, and seeing others enjoy the game. Do you see a potential future where a new master rule is created to bring the power down in the game as a whole?

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +8

      i think the new master rule should be regarding improving the going second and an update regarding time rules. the power level should be fixed by the banlist

    • @Raphael4722
      @Raphael4722 2 месяца назад

      If you want a slow game just play Magic esp. commander. I play a bit of MTG but I prefer Yu-Gi-Oh and I wouldn't like every TCG to be slow. Variety is good.

    • @4S4L3
      @4S4L3 2 месяца назад

      @@Raphael4722 Commander isn't magic imo, it's fun, same cards but a different game entirely. Limitted formats in magic aren't slow, and constructed is anything but slow. It was just a reference point.

  • @joseprojo975
    @joseprojo975 2 месяца назад

    Runick cards are not the problem, the floodgates are. The cards that allow the toxic play pattern are cards like skill drain rivalry or synchrozone. If runick stun looses the floodgates, the deck stops working and now we have to play runick combo variants that are much more healthy and can get smoked my cards like druler or a combination of handtraps

  • @drkdia4872
    @drkdia4872 2 месяца назад +2

    I definitely feel there needs to be a huge discussion on handtraps being limited/banned as a precursor to working on the problems the game has. handtraps are bandaids that mask the deeprooted problems in the game and until we expose them we cant begin to work out the issues to make our game healthier. also no deck should have 12-20 handtraps and be good this also limits the game we rely too heavy on them doesnt promote imagination in deck building.

    • @Raphael4722
      @Raphael4722 2 месяца назад +4

      Playing around hand traps is an area for skill expression. There is no reason why you should be safe from interruptions on turn 1.

    • @drkdia4872
      @drkdia4872 2 месяца назад +1

      @Raphael4722 i agree with you. you still miss the point that handtraps are masking/hiding the other problems of this game. they are essentially preventing this game from getting better. you say it takes skill to play around handtraps and i agree, but we need to focus on the health of the game and improving the whole game requires hundreds of cards to be banned and limited. they should be banned and limited so we can start to ban and limit the other problems of the game.

  • @Vicmagician
    @Vicmagician 2 месяца назад +3

    I really like your banlist brother

  • @thereaper5171
    @thereaper5171 2 месяца назад

    again sharp accuracy in prediction with 1 exception, dont touch my d barrier

  • @Scrafting
    @Scrafting 2 месяца назад +7

    Based list, put shifter to forbidden tho

  • @rocapbg9518
    @rocapbg9518 2 месяца назад

    I don't think they're touching Calmity nor Jasmine, they didn't do it when the cards were seeing a huge amount of play, there is no reason they'd suddenly do it now.

  • @kyokusanagi8208
    @kyokusanagi8208 2 месяца назад

    with apollousa, baronne and savage banned, superheavy samurai scarecrow should be back

  • @redeltai
    @redeltai 2 месяца назад

    I am calling my own prediction list here (smaller)
    • Flam Banned
    • Snake or Wanted to 1
    • D Barrier to 1
    • Skill Drain to 1
    • Heavy Storm to 1 (prob January)
    Wish list
    ~ Shifter to 2 is actually hot, I phrased it wrongly, delete it don’t post it.

  • @gamingsuperun
    @gamingsuperun 2 месяца назад

    Runick limit is cooked. Does Nesh really want the strategy to come down to banish a single card from their deck and the deck no longer functions as intented?

  • @konovalovartur6864
    @konovalovartur6864 2 месяца назад +2

    What about the little goddess Link 2. They could just hit that its a common and the fiendsmith engine wont be that busted anymore.

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +7

      fiendsmith is ok without any bridge into non fiend decks

    • @justsomeguywhohideshismust1613
      @justsomeguywhohideshismust1613 2 месяца назад +1

      ​I agree as long as yubel is touched in some way

  • @benimaruj2909
    @benimaruj2909 2 месяца назад

    I'm completely fine with killing SE, but this is an overkill lol. OSS and/or Wanted could stay at 3 with Flamberge banned and Ash at 1.

  • @Xana17
    @Xana17 2 месяца назад

    What does wanted do if the dragon or original sinful spoils are hit? Ads a witch and the witch adds what? Surely they’ll keep it at 3 for more new sinful spoils cards coming out in rage of the abyss etc

  • @mikeshredsguitar
    @mikeshredsguitar 2 месяца назад

    Power creep has destroyed some previous strategies. KIT TO 1

  • @jackfrost5638
    @jackfrost5638 2 месяца назад

    100% they are not gonna touch phantom of yubel right now, yubel is litterally meta since 1 month and phantom is the most expensive card of the archetype. not saying it shouldn't be to 1 but it is unrealistic that they are gonna touch it now

  • @OutcastMosquito
    @OutcastMosquito 2 месяца назад

    Personally I feel Sangen summoning won’t get hit until the reprint of dragion. It’ll allow tenpai ti shine and for ppl who invested in the deck to not lose out after 2 month of playing. Also I don’t think there would be much reason to want trident dragion reprint if the deck is gimped. I see it happening after the tins perhaps

  • @mj4674
    @mj4674 2 месяца назад

    Phantom of yubel and opening spirit will not touch but moon will ban and sharvara too

  • @Symex_
    @Symex_ 2 месяца назад +4

    They should unban Sixth Sense

  • @alessio766
    @alessio766 2 месяца назад +1

    ELECTRUMITE TO 1

  • @zacharymartin2997
    @zacharymartin2997 2 месяца назад

    I don't think they hit Yubel cards directly, I think they probably just hit gates because it's their premier starter and follow-up. It's the same take as always but I can't see Konami hitting a recent Secret Rare in Phantom.

    • @invictusaer1014
      @invictusaer1014 2 месяца назад

      sacred beastes have done nothing wrong

  • @fogblades6811
    @fogblades6811 2 месяца назад

    So wait, I might be missing something here, but you think Shifter is fine at 2, but DDG needs to go? I don't get the logic.

  • @carlomarinelli3710
    @carlomarinelli3710 2 месяца назад

    Do you think they could touch other tenpai cards? Like chundra or paidra

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +1

      i think the fieldspell is the core of the deck, the engine really dont matter cause is very fragile

    • @OutcastMosquito
      @OutcastMosquito 2 месяца назад

      @@N3shTCGtrue. As as a tenpai enthusiast myself, you can definitely stop them easily without the field spell

  • @olytorres4499
    @olytorres4499 2 месяца назад +1

    Konami if you hit branded im quitting yu gi oh and move to lorcana !

  • @Gilgamesh-em6ru
    @Gilgamesh-em6ru 2 месяца назад

    I don't think it's fair to talk about hitting Phantom at this time tbh. Snake eyes has been relevant for almost 3 times longer than Yubel even got Phantom of yubel. you can't even say Yubel was meta during that time since you and most other people didn't consider it good until Phantom came out, even though most people were playing it wrong (i.e. playing it as a super poly deck when it wasn't quite literally you could play it fiend link like people are now and not have any issues) Hitting spirit gates is fine imo since that card has been out for a very long time now and is one of the most important starters/extenders/recurrsion for the deck if you don't have access to the yubel cards already.
    also Rage can also recycle Phantom and that's why I think the correct number to run phantom at is 2. no discussion on that.

  • @vitorapollinario9335
    @vitorapollinario9335 2 месяца назад +1

    The old argument about shifter being semi-limited cause the drawback is going to be too hard to deal with is dead with the Mulcharmys and Tenpai, you need to ban shifter. Sangen Summoning to one without other hits does nothing to tenpai, especially with shifter and Mulcharmys in the game, ban field spell and limit the red turner. Poplar is the problem card and is way more accurate to hit. Ban sharvara the card does too much, as long is in the game a fiend deck is gonna abuse. Crossout cannot go until Mulcharmys are out, other way we are just a more polish OCG. Gamma back to 3, omega ban just in case, makes no sense you want the game to be center around hantraps and have gamma at one. Dogwood ban, there's no way to fix the time issue with this card, now and then this card is gonna be a problem, is cheap, why not ban? And finally they already did the shit of launch Closed Heaven, but at least it is normal cheap, so ban that garbage! It's gonna make the game more creative. And Runick Tip to one, Hugin to one, Branded fusion to one, branded opening to one, enough of these decks, it's time for flesh blood, every meta a new Despia, a new runick, enough!
    PS: forgot about the gimmick puppet field spell, common cheap, ban! And terraforming, why is this card in the game with some many broken field spells?

  • @PalkiaDialgaGiratina
    @PalkiaDialgaGiratina 2 месяца назад

    Can you explain in a little more detail about when you mentioned that the way Snake Eye was printed, in terms of design, it is a bad example on how to interrupt combo decks with handtraps?

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +9

      cause u are supposed to be able to slow down a combo deck endboard with one ht and with 2 it should end on a very minimalistic board, snake does still full board with ash witch

    • @PalkiaDialgaGiratina
      @PalkiaDialgaGiratina 2 месяца назад

      @@N3shTCG Which lowers the value of handtraps, unless it is 3 or more. I see, thanks.

  • @WilliamLor98
    @WilliamLor98 2 месяца назад

    Che sito usi per creare la banned ? Molto piu bello che il solito tier maker

  • @generalistvibe3279
    @generalistvibe3279 2 месяца назад

    I think Wanted getting the Tin reprint means it’ll probably go to 2. OSS I think will also avoid a ban because without the Diabellstar/Wanted engine, Infernoid and all the other splashable decks they made in the last year become unplayable. Even if they did semi-limit Monster Gate and Reasoning.

  • @Tidalx3
    @Tidalx3 2 месяца назад +1

    Lmfaoooo I fucking love you bro 😂

    • @Tidalx3
      @Tidalx3 2 месяца назад

      I agree with everything 💯 which is rare

  • @littledyu-gi-oh3580
    @littledyu-gi-oh3580 2 месяца назад

    My man is a plant hater, what have plants done to deserve a hit? Top 2 events the entire format?

  • @sparda191
    @sparda191 2 месяца назад

    My only reason I disagree is that i don't think konami will kill a deck at its first hit for snake eyes. The yubel is hard to see it get hit in the banlist just after its release. The same for tenpai. I don't know what will konami do, but I already expect to see snake eyes be the best deck till the december/January banlist.

  • @TheMrfamous7
    @TheMrfamous7 2 месяца назад +1

    Missing circular but you mentioned it’s a few cards that could be moved to limited so imma assume circular was included in that list.

  • @A.O.0
    @A.O.0 2 месяца назад

    If master peace my lord and savior get un banned im crafting the whole deck 😂 suck it max c meta

  • @hiddenfog180
    @hiddenfog180 2 месяца назад +1

    Where’s Heavy Storm

    • @dickunddoof4684
      @dickunddoof4684 2 месяца назад

      do we really need more backrow hate? isnt 2 LS + Duster enough already?

    • @Jhawk2711
      @Jhawk2711 2 месяца назад

      @@dickunddoof4684it’s just unbanned everywhere else

    • @babrad
      @babrad 2 месяца назад +1

      Waiting for a reprint to sell a set

  • @an2wei
    @an2wei 2 месяца назад

    I think that they are probably unbaning Master Peace on one of the next two banlists. It's clear that they could have done it back a while ago but the new apodrakosis archetype is a good excuse to unban a powerfull wyrm lol

  • @saltyyf1802
    @saltyyf1802 2 месяца назад

    TTT while going first is crazy, 2nd player can get punished just for using an ash blossom, shit needs to be banned

    • @Aaronfails
      @Aaronfails 2 месяца назад +1

      then how does branded play through an ash on branded fusion.... thats one of the best ways to play thru ash

    • @Raphael4722
      @Raphael4722 2 месяца назад

      Play Imperm, Dominus Purge/Impulse and the Mulcharmies (use in draw phase). They can't TTT you then.

    • @saltyyf1802
      @saltyyf1802 2 месяца назад

      @@Aaronfails that's like saying how can lab play through ash, or literally any other deck playing through the slightest interaction

  • @alexanderbatterbee8369
    @alexanderbatterbee8369 2 месяца назад

    Free chaos ruler

  • @FinalMorningstar
    @FinalMorningstar 2 месяца назад

    why limit se ash if flamberge is banned? the se engine is sick and compliments other fire decks but doesn't do anything toxic if there's no flamberge. a limit on bonfire would actually make sense as its just rota, great ash bait and has more potential to be be broken in the future

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +12

      maybe watch the entire video and check the final result then comment?

    • @FinalMorningstar
      @FinalMorningstar 2 месяца назад

      @@N3shTCG aight thanks, and maybe next time you shouldnt make ban list videos where you make a prediction and then change your mind about it 5 minutes later lmao

  • @ShadowNESX
    @ShadowNESX 2 месяца назад

    Look at the ocg putting ash to one does nothing oss needs to be banned

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад

      maybe watch the entire video and check the final result then comment?

    • @ShadowNESX
      @ShadowNESX 2 месяца назад +3

      @@N3shTCG no I watched the video my comment wasn’t say you should do but I was agreeing with you also I think sangen field to two in tcg is more likely then straight to one also ash need banned as well

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +1

      @@ShadowNESX ok mb

  • @donnelleraeburn9207
    @donnelleraeburn9207 2 месяца назад +3

    Misc to 3 and im a happy man... That's all i want

    • @N3shTCG
      @N3shTCG  2 месяца назад +2

      im happy with 2

    • @glrbrasil
      @glrbrasil 2 месяца назад +2

      Why bring back a card that isolates a combo that from handtraps?

    • @SuperSilver316
      @SuperSilver316 2 месяца назад

      Dino DNA

    • @donnelleraeburn9207
      @donnelleraeburn9207 2 месяца назад

      @@N3shTCG I want it at 3 tho. I have 3 misc signed by the goat and i wanna use it

    • @donnelleraeburn9207
      @donnelleraeburn9207 2 месяца назад

      @@glrbrasil is completely fine at 3 man come on

  • @eduardoantoniomaldonadovas9164
    @eduardoantoniomaldonadovas9164 2 месяца назад

    Xd you want to kill yubel xd

  • @midnightseis1168
    @midnightseis1168 2 месяца назад

    it would be so unfair to ban sanctifire at this point of the game, branded has legit 1 top over 2 major tournaments and I can't see it being still relevant if you keep sanctifire and ban nightmare, ido and the pend whom I don't remember the name. I know it's a branded lover's bias, but still does make sense imho

    • @MarvinMcNutt-e8r
      @MarvinMcNutt-e8r 2 месяца назад +2

      There's always gonna be some new thing they can use, there's legit like 8 problematic cards they'd have to ban, easier to jus ban sanctifire, it was designed to be a good card but in practice it's only used for degeneracy which is a whole different matter. Branded without sanctifire is still a very strong deck with a good player behind it

  • @kristiananev1783
    @kristiananev1783 2 месяца назад

    Sharvara to at least 2 ;(

  • @andreastafforini1162
    @andreastafforini1162 2 месяца назад

    banning d barirer??!?😂😂 how can i beat tenpai then??

  • @MrPantzios
    @MrPantzios 2 месяца назад

    I think I;P sould get banned instead of Appollousa.

  • @Stanky_Foot
    @Stanky_Foot 2 месяца назад

    they wont ban sanctifire, but it's the tcg comittee so i guess they can, they're notoriously bad at picking out cards to ban, like you